How To Test A Starter Without Having To Touch The starter.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2017
- WARNING: it seems there is one out of 1.6 million people who don't know how to watch a video and pay attention to it. this video AS STATED IN THE VIDEO does not tell you if your starter is bad. If your starter doesn't crank using this method then you have a problem with the battery, connections or the starter. The ONLY thing this video is for is to give you a simple way to tell you if your starter is good. If your starter works doing this method then your starter is good. If it doesn't work then you need to diagnose the starter In whatever way you like. also if doing this test procedure on a vehicle with a MANUAL transmission you MUST ensure the vehicle is in NUTURAL before jumping the starter relay. If you dont the vehicle will lurch forward and could even start and drive away on you.
How to test your starter without having to access the actual starter. sometimes starters are hard to get to so i like to test it from the relay. if the starter works by doing this check then you know the circuitry to the starter and the starter is good to go allowing you to focus on the easier to access stuff right away. This method work with most vehicles however the starter relay if equiped varies vehicle to vehicle, in this case im working on a 1999 GMC Sierra 1500 with a 4.3 ltr engine. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
This is why as a man I've moved from being in the trenches and working on cars to conveyors to many a maintenance position to now an engineer. I've never forgotten my roots and will always trust a man with greasy hands. Nice video man.
Sounds like you are one of the few engineers without a massive ego. Thank you for staying humble. Most arnt humble and act like eggheaded snobs...
@@tyrannusspissamentum4423 Thanks.
I became an engineer without mechanical experience, other than changing tires and super light maintenance on drawing machines ina. factory. Now im working on EXYZ Cranes, ASRS, SCADA, Pallet Conveyors, Shuttle Cars, Automated stretch wrappers, etc. Tackling some car repairs this weekend. Im 41 yrs old, dont ever let someone tell you you’re too old to learn new skills!!
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Just a question how old are you?
Thanks a million! Bought the starter $200+ but caught this video before installing it. I was stuck at a shopping center and had called for a tow. With your help I fixed it in minutes. Turns out it was the relay itself! The "work from here back" was perfect for me. I returned the starter, replaced the relay, cancelled the tow! I was home way before the tow truck could have got to me and I had more money in my pocket and more time for yard work!
It's already been said, but You Da Man!
So your vehicle just need a relay. My car sounds like it’s trying to start but can’t I thought it was the starter but I don’t know my car mad the same sound like that but not completely clicking over
Relay? So do I Google starter relay or just relay?
I was trying to start it and then smoke and bad smell. Did I fried the starter? Should I buy new Relay?
Nice!
Hell yeah man thats dope
You sir are an angel. You just saved me 4hrs of my Saturday.
Now I'm free to spend my time doing what my wife wants.......
LMAO!!!!!!!!! Brilliant!!
You may not wear a cape, sir, but im my books, youre a hero. Thank you for this short, precise, yet golden information.
Bridging the relay contact to energize the starter solenoid that then energizes the starter motor....excellent idea.
This is the only YT video I could find explaining this.
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Thank you for the comment
I have forgotten so much about working on cars that this simple test brought back memories
good to see us old motor heads helping each other out.
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Saved me about $500! The starter alone was almost $300. I did the jump wire and nothing so pulled out the starter and a plug had worked it’s way loose. Clips were broken off. Plugged it back in and reinstalled did the jump wire again and fired up. Great video man! It’s my daughter’s 2011 Hyundai and I was nervous as hell figured I’d have to go get a loan to fix it. Ty!
I have the same car and should try that.
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@@melloj535did it work?
@@nekawallc6324 it was actually the engine that was messed up and I got it replaced for a new one under warranty through Hyundai.
Congrats on your patience answering the same questions over and over again for YEARS!
Great info brother, thank you for educating us (especially those like myself that are completely ignorant when it comes to mechanical work), this is priceless information!
A TRUE blue collar deep rooted man!
It’s rare to find people these days that will go out of their way to put helpful DIY videos for the less educated, your a blessing to more than you may realize!
Thank you the comment!
Retired master mechanic here good dyi advice. 😀
Yep. These are the kinds of videos we need on here. Great job explaining how to make it easier to find the issue.
This video just saved me from being STRANDED! I literally used a paper clip because it was all i had and it STARTED RIGHT UP!! Will take it to the shop once back in town. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Heck ya
@@m0bilemechanix Were do you recommended that I start to look next to recommend to the shop. This has happened before I thought it was the battery the first time and usually only happened when it's super cold 15 degrees this morning!
How exactly did you use a paperclip?
@@karenmmcthree What do you mean? I untied the clip as in made it straight then jumped it.
@@David-td5po okay thank you I still don't understand though
Thanks for the tip. I was about to buy a starter, but when I put in the jumper wire the starter turned fine. Changed the relay and it’s back up and running. $20 for a relay vs $200 for a starter, not to mention all the frustrating labor and grease. And it still wouldn’t have worked till I changed the relay. I’m a new subscriber.
Our 2001 GMC Sierra stopped turning over, and we used this method to test it. There was only clicking noises once we put the wires in there. Thanks! We figured it was the starter, but this most likely confirms it. Our battery is solid, connections on battery are solid, so we will replace the starter asap. I'll edit our post once we do that to see if that was the case. Thanks again for this little trick. My hubs went under the car to try to arc the starter before I found your video, and he had not seen this method before even though he is pretty solid with car knowledge!
Thanks! I used this info to test my starter. It was a bad battery connection that looked solid. You saved me Hundreds!
Your video helped me change out the starter in my 05 Tuscon. Many Thanks!!!
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Awesome advice! You just saved me $300 on an alternator. God bless you! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Famous actor Jon Hamm does a fantastic job explaining in this video- I had been looking for a clear breakdown of how to figure out my starter issue and this was both informative and suggested great handsomeness!
Thanks! Saved me lots of grief. It was the relay that you unplugged. Took another like # and size relay and plugged it in. Worked great. A relay cost me about $13 bucks.
Wow. Being a mechanic is more than just nuts and bolts. Incredible
Thank you I learned alot
This is the most helpful video I've seen in a long time, and I've been doing half of my troubleshooting and repair for many years. Thank you. I've told young adults the first step is to turn on the head-lights to see if they are bright or dim. Even with dim headlights, if you hear a clicking at the starter, the solenoid is actuating halfway, but not all the way (this video is a vital step). The top five starting problems are typically mutually exclusive, so it will rarely be two of those problems at the same time. Awesome tip, thanks!
Will this work if I just hear a click click and it’s not turning over. Can I jump it with wire like he did to start the vehicle?
Perfect timing for this video hitting my suggestion list. Going in a few minutes to help my son in law figure out weather his starter is bad or not. Thank you.
YES ! I was just trying to see if I could jump the solenoid but I couldn't see it well enough, thank you TH-cam!
I changed the ignition switch before seeing your video with no fix. Checked the starter using your method and no start. Now changing the starter. Thanks !!
Man, oh man....you just saved me a whole bunch of time and money! THANK YOU! Car FIXED!
Great video. It has allowed me to start my car daily while I am waiting for parts. It verified the starter is working. Thank you!
This is AWESOME. Saved me having to get my truck towed, and ultimately just had to replace the relay, when I thought it was going to be the starter.
seriously, it's nice to know videos like this exist. very well done.
Dang Skippy, GREAT trick, great explanation and great video. Spot on !
Great Tip thanks. In all my years of backyard wrenching I’ve never hear of this. Many thanks.
2019 Dodge Grand Caravan 4.0 Relays would click but no starter response. Tried your bypass method and AWESOME not only did the starter turn over but the starter began working normally. GREAT time saving info. Thanks so much
Nice! I used this to get the car running so I could take to the parts store.
Thanks a lot! Helped me to confirm that my starter was not the problem on my Jeep TJ. Finally traced it to a finicky after market alarm installed by a previous owner.
This is a $200.00 video thanks man
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this is a $1500 video for me :')
Thanks helped us a lot
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Hey bro thanks a lot this helped me a lot I was stranded and I tryed this and my car turned right back on 👍
Thanks for the video! Very informative and helpful. 👍
30 and 87, got it! You saved me $230 I'm taking back this starter to auto zone for a refund
Thank you for saving me. The mechanic could not start my car. After watching this, it works very well. You took me out of a danger zone. I had no money and no transportation.😀
I offer my sincere THANX, sir! My '99 Dakota wouldn't do ANYTHING when I turned the key. But when I used Ur advice to "test" if the starter was bad or not, Ol' Bessie actually started right up - much to my delight! I really appreciate U sharing Ur knowledge!! Cheerz, Bill in FL
Bill McGowan that means you have an ignition switch problem or if it's an automatic an nutural safety switch problem and if it's a stick a clutch switch problem. If it's automatic try starting it in nutural. If it starts in nutural replace the nutral safety switch.
@@m0bilemechanix Wow! Thanx again for Ur help, sir! Ya know, I was thinking it was probably the ignition switch. And yes, this 1999 Dakota is a 4cyl, standard 5speed. I just recently turned over the 100K mile mark! Incredible, right?! Best vehicle I ever had & I've had at least 20 different cars/trucks/bombs in my day! With Regards, Bill in Florida
This is one of the most concise and informative automotive self-help videos I've ever come across. I can't say how much I appreciate you taking the time to point out this extremely easy starter test. I was able to verify that the starter still works in my 1998 Toyota Avalon.
The only thing I would point out for others checking out this video is that the '98 Avalon's relay doesn't give much space for using a large diameter wire as the test wire since it uses thin metal blades like a wall socket plug in a building. The circuit paths are printed on the top of the Denso-manufactured relay, so you may need to clean it off, and it doesn't show the full switch (i.e. the line meant to indicate the switch that ought to be electromagnetically activated when the key is turned in the ignition), so just find the open/close path diagram. Additionally, the '98 Avalon relay is purple (top) and white (bottom) colored, located in the front most relay/fuse box under the hood on driver side, with a snap-fit connection that you'll need to pry open with something long and thin (e.g., a putty knife). For the '98 Avalon relay connections, 1/2 is the ignition path and 3/5 is the starter path instead of 85/86 and 30/87 shown in this video. I managed to cram a 14 or 16 gauge wire into the 3 and 5 connections just barely enough to engage the starter, so I would go with something thinner for the test in the future.
Thanks again for the awesome video!
thats bad ass bro! i knew you could short out solenoid with screwdriver but this is next level and a dahhhh!! taken my buddies car for a spin now! lol
Can't thank you enough mate, enabled me to sort things out on my own without paying someone else, great video 😊
Great video. Text book how to. No wasted dialogue. Clear concise to the point
Great tip! was gonna remove the intake mainfold and go through lots of trouble to change the starter but your video saved me. Thanks man!
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Thank you, very good explanation, you are very knowledgeable of electronic circuits and functions!!
Bro. I was a little hesitant with your slooooooow-ass explanation but the content is SPOT ON and i found that my starter was only working intermitently. The first few times i plugged in the wire i got spark from the plugs but no starter turn-over. After gently tapping on the starter and checking the plugs to it i tried the wire jumper again and it cranked like a champ. Now i'll just replace the starter instead of spending hours chasing other stuff. Well-done and THANK YOU.
What? I thought if the jumped relay starts the car then the starter is good, and the relay is bad. Now I'm confused.
@@buttercuptaylor7135 The fact that he had to tap the starter to get it to turn means the starter isn't doing the job reliably.
Great tip and thanks for sharing. This simple diagnostic step can save a lot of time and effort for sure.
Thanks for the great info, I'll do that before getting under the car. Thank you for taking the time to make the video.
Wow!!! My 06 H2 wouldn’t start - no crank at all but the battery was a few months old and I check that it was charged. I watched a number of other videos but they were of little help. I watched your video and immediately determine my starter is good and I’m having a fuse/relay problem somewhere.
Many Thanks!!!
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No Crank No Start, 1st if it’s auto move the gear shift in and out of Park with ignition on and then try to start .. Next try turning the steering back and forth in lock position and then try starting , this works on my CLK
Good Info. Dude ! Couldn't do it the old fashion way. Thanks so much
These are the videos that the world needs..that i try to make...good job bro thanks im stranded about to check this
I'm so glad that I found this video because I'm doing this without help. I will be trying it today and I'm praying it works. Thank you for the easy step by step instructions! 🙂 Carrie
Hey did it work for you?
@@937youngjay I couldn't figure it out and I'm still not able to drive. 😢
What is the red cable and where do I get that from.
@@maxxcruise5663did u find this out
This makes so much sense. Thank you man!
Video still helping people in 2023! Thanks
Probably the best car repair type video I have ever watched. Mentioned some really thorough shizz!!!
Thks, Man
Great video, thanks for sharing ur knowledge
FYI to anyone watching this video wondering where the starter fuse is, it's located right below the starter relay fuse marked IGN-E on the panel cover. In this video it's the fuse he unknowingly points to at the 5:10 minute mark.
It Needs a Relay as well as a fuse If one of them's gone thats a problem
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Best and most clear explanation. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the prelim I absolutely agree that people have a low attention span and misconstrue a statement from a question and to walk and chew gum at the same time. Thank you for sharing your expertise on testing a good or bad starter. The process of elimination is the key, i have a Hyundai Veloster and no diagram on the relay switch.
thanks For the quick insder tip. Your friend from the orient. Hahahaha GOD BLESS you BUDDY
Wow this is pro stuff. Awesome video! This is the kind of stuff I'm trying to learn. Thank you
Saved me a lot of work and time. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video, my started would click everytime I would try to start it. It cranked when I put the wire in, and I then went and started it. 🤙
Great teaching for me. Thanks.
That's a really useful video. If the starter is working, but the engine doesn't start it could also be that there is no fuel running into the engine i.e. fuel pump not working for some reason. I had that happen to me twice on two different cars.
This is exactly what we are thinking is the issue with our vehicle.
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You made perfect sense. Married a great mechanic. He couldn't explain crap but could make anything run. Don't have him anymore so came here. So glad I did.
Why mechanics don't want others to know about the little things is a wonder to me.
I'm going to do this in the morning. Might comment back to the wonders I find under that hood.
THANKS.
I love the trouble-shooting, thank you!!!!
Thank you so much for this video! After a month of trying to get my car starter nothing. Did this and got it started😁
This is a great trick, I’ve also swapped relays with another and see if it cranks. Now it may not start depending on which relay you steal to see if it will crank, but it will tell you if you have a bad starter relay and you can do it without any tools.
This was super helpful. Thank you for making it.
What a legend for making this video it was very helpful
Smart! Thanks for taking the time to educate us!
thanks for the video! it helped me save money. thanks for video it helped my chev 1500 with that paperclip and it worked on the starter relay fuse! was losing hope until i seen your video!!
Did you mean that you found that the starter relay fuse was the problem?
Really appreciate your style and method. Very easy to follow and understand. I am a deskbound guy, not a car guy. Thank you
Thanks for the knowledge.
Thank you very much for the video.
Worked perfectly diagnostically and saved myself a lot of time, effort and money 🙏
Further update. Replaced the relay but the problem has persisted. The car starts sometimes from the key and then it doesnt. I open the hood and use the wire to jump it. But now it doesnt always start straight away like before. It may take a repeated connecting of the wires before it turns over. Just a loud click is heard - same as when turning the key. Im guessing it is the starter motor itself.
Add on - found the problem this morning. Poor connection between the key and the key reader slip ring!! Just had to put some pressure on the key when turning and starts every time ☺️
@Vic02 No it's not a Ford. I'm in Australia and we have cars here made by Holden. Which come under GM I think. It's a Holden commodore.
@Vic02 interesting.
I can't thank you enough for taking the time to make this video and share your knowledge. If there's any thing you could tell me that would help me out on a 2007 Pontiac G6 with a 3.5 L. I scanned it it said it was eecm I replaced it + reset the computer. And then I took the starter all went and had it tested if I would have only caught your video a day earlier it sure would have saved me a lot of time and energy. The starter tested good. I put it back in and now today I won't try testing it myself by your method just to make sure that the kid at the auto parts store didn't botch up the test. And I replace the battery before I did anything I have power to everything except from the key to the starter. And I hate to tear the whole - apart to replace the ignition if there might be something else I could try first thank you again appreciate you
Check PRNDL switch to make sure the vehicle knows its in park. One way to check that is to put it in neutral and see if it cranks over. If it does the switch is bad
@@m0bilemechanix Where is the PRNDL switch located
Man, your video saved me a whole lot of money. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for this video. I just had my battery tested today and it was fine. I was looking at videos of replacing the starter when I saw your video. Did the rest you showed and now I’m going tour to buy a relay instead of a starter. Really appreciate the information. Great video.
Dude, this is perfect! Excellent way to bypass and isolate the starter and test it. Thank you so much for the time you took to make and share the video.
im glad you liked it thank you for the comment
Great video
Thanks for your help!
m0bilemechanix does this test determine if the solenoid is bad as well or just the starter motor? as I was told my solenoid is bad. does this test determine that the solenoid is bad or just the starter motor?
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Thanks for sharing this! This worked perfect for me! I was changing my valve stem seals and this trick helped me rotate the engine forward to make sure the cylinder was TDC (top dead center). Awesome trick!
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Hes happy he used this for a different method, idk id recommend doing this, esp if you already have stuff apart, but to each their own
The best simple learning experience I got from this video.. thanks a million bro.. keep up the good work work u doing..
Great instructional vid:) Many thanks from across the pond.
Sir you are a blessing, I thank you for your knowledge, my gmc before would just click and would not turn over, your method solved my problem, now it turns over with the key in the ignition and runs great, I thank you once again!!
I've been with a few older mechanics that have done this.....
Thanks to you I understand it....
Thank you soooooo much!
Wish I'd have seen this a day earlier! Great video that will save time and effort.
Very helpful. Thank you
Very informative, thanks !
Thanks for your help. You got right to the point.
This has helped me out. It told me that I definitely need a starter. Thanks for the tip.
Nice video!! Thanks for the tip, that was really cool. Now to go try it on my daughter's car that won't start but has a new, fully charged battery in it.
Thank you so much, this helped so much. I was looking at $800.00 thinking it was the ignition switch. It also saved me alot of hassle from removing the starter and taking it to get checked.
After I was able to get it started with the magical little wire I was able to purchase another relay and install it. Well gosh dam boom it started right away. You saved me alot of trouble mister.
I would like to Thank you so much may GOD BLESS you and may GOD BLESS AMERICA and make America great again.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
This video is really priceless. Thank You Brethren.
Thank you! Excellent video, will go out in the rain and try it now!
Helpful information, thank you!
This video got me laid!!! Saved somebody else a chunk of money. Bad part of it is now I have to go see doctor because it hurts so bad when I sit down.
As others have said, this vid is informative however I think it's a pure test for the starter relay. This is tremendous for anyone who's relay went bad. For those that are having "jumper wire' concerns there is an alternative to test your relay. This fella is working on a Ford Explorer and the blower motor relay is the same identical one and it sits above the starter relay. Turn the key to the ON position and see if your blower motor works by turning both the fan and the airflow dials on. If it works, swap the relays and see if your starter works. Also, you can match the writing on the covers of any similar (size and color) relays that you find together in your fuse box. As long as they are identical you have a swap match.
More than likely this approach applies to all or many makes and models but it definitely works with Ford Explorers. Just refer to your owners manual or Google what the starter relay looks like in your vehicle and have a look in the fuse box inside the engine compartment which is generally next to your battery.
This video is for the person who has a car that doesn't crank over and is presumed to have a bad starter. When you remove the relay and use the jumper you are only seeing of the starter will crank. Of it doesn't crack it doesn't mean it's a bad starter. If it DOES crank you know the starter is good. This does nothing to test the relay. If you remove the relay and use the jumper and it cranks over it doesn't mean the relay is bad. It can be relay, security, key, ignition switch, battery, connections etc. The only way you get info from this technique is if it does crank over when using the jumper.
@@m0bilemechanix so in other words this method tests both the starter and relay
Your suggestion of switching relays got my daughter’s Jetta started! Oddly, the starter relay tested fine and all the electricals worked but it wouldn’t crank. Switched two relays and it started. All electricals still work too. We may change out the old starter relay even though it seems to work fine in the new slot. Thanks for the suggestion
EXTREMLY valuable knowledge. Great work bro. Big help
Great information you giving us here. I will follow your advise because my Sonata 2013 won't turn on.