So Charles Vane was a bayman before in Black Sails? Rather interesting that was true, I never imagined people would actually consider living on the island where they chopped the wood as well.
Working on a long poem about the Baymen - I think it's a fascinating part of history and this has been a great source. As an Irishman also named Daniel, it's amazing to hear of his escape. Cheers for this one, mate.
Its great to learn about the history of the Caribbean from your videos- its very similar to the historical progression of the American frontier, except better, because it has buccaneers. Keep up the great work! These videos keep getting better! PS- angry old neoliberal says eat the bugs and live in the pod, peasants, I say it'll be a pirates life for me, rich bois.
Ahoy! Enjoyed learning about the Baymen. In my waters there are ruins of historic Indigo plantations with the equipment used to process Indigo still intact. There are even modern Indigo farms too! When I think of the Yucatan Peninsula today I think of eco tourism and Mayan ruins! Lol! Must have been brutal existence back in the 1700 & 1800's for log cutters!
@@phredphlintstone6455 Ceviche is the first thing that sprang to my mind, it's very good stuff, and can be quite refreshing, as an appetizer or snack, especially on a hot day.
I just discovered this channel due to my rising interest in the game Naval Action and holy moly man, your humor and the way you give information is exactly like mine when it comes to War Thunder and me and my buddies. Fucking amazing channel man.
Thank you for creating dude! PIRATES!!! It's been a weird few years.. i'm sure everyone is stressed in different ways I can't even begin to fathom. Funny history videos make the world a better place God bless you brah! You use your talents well :D
11:04 alligators don't live in the Yucatan, only crocodiles inhabit Yucatan or the Caribbean for that matter. Alligators are restricted to the United States section of North America. Alligators also weren't so friendly a number of people die every year in attacks.
Really interesting video, thank you! (having a huge catchup with all of your content!) I love learning about all these offshoots of sea rovers and how they all interact. Would you say that these Baymen were the longest lasting loose sub 'group' of rovers during the Golden Ages? They seem to 'make it' through those ages, despite being chase off by the Spanish a number of times, right up to being part of a British Crown Colony in the 19th century.
Yeah the different offshoots are very interesting. I'd recommend the video on the boucaniers aswell, they were like the Baymen but hunters instead. It's hard to tell when Baymen and Boucaniers stopped being part-time rovers. By the 1710s, many Baymen sailed to Nassau and became pirates after the Spanish chased them out. On the other hand, many Baymen ships in 1718 were seized by Blackbeard and Bellamy, converted into pirate ships, and the loggers press ganged.
Belize, not far south from the Yucatan was also a place with a lot of bay men. The Bay men were celebrated on St. George's Key Day, the Belizean equivalent of the 4th of July. *I don't know if this is still done.) They way they talked about them, you would think that they were the eqiveiant of George Washinton's armies. The reason was that they took the side of the British during a way between Britain and Spain. The British won, and that is why Belize (Formerly British Honduras) became a British colony, and much later, an independent nation. Spain still believed that it was part of their empire, and when Gutamala became an independent nation, they took up the claim, creating a long sort of cold war, during which Guatemalan radio repeatedly said "Beliece es Gutamala," and British troops had to remain stationed there to keep them out. Evan still, I have watched videos about Belize and I still saw a comment that said "Belize is a province of Guatemala." The Baymen were, I'm sure, in many ways not good people. But they were the ones who enabled Belize to become a Democratically run British colony, and then an independent nation that was a Democracy, instead of remaining ruled by Spain, and then by Guatemala, which became a brutal Fascist, racist, mass murdering (of Mayans)perhaps even genocidal nation. As they say, even an ill wind always blows somebody some good.
Alligators are extremely docile unless there's something wrong with it. You've got little to fear unless its extremely hungry or too sick to hunt something bigger and dumber than you.
You make being a logwood cutter sound pretty bad... but then I look at my life and career choices in this life and think "yeah... that is likely where I would end up." Don't get me wrong, I would likely bitch about the crappy things, but hard self motivated work where you don't have a boss looking after you. Weird creatures trying to kill you in lands you don't fully understand, and having to be proficient with a gun, that actually describes more of my life than I want to admit to myself.
They guy that patented Louisiana hot sauce holds the record for largest alligator...forget how big, but it was in the 1880s I believe. 24 feet...26? Something like that
privateers and buccaneers had investors, either merchants or aristocracy, that were owed a share of the acquired plunder. a few privateers-turned pirates had investors, like Henry Jennings, but no one that started out as a man wanted for piracy would be able to get investors, you needed some sort of initial legitimacy
I want to do a video covering privateering contracts more, but with my current schedule, it might be a while, but there will be other videos that touch on it, especially the video about Captain Kidd whose investors got in a lot of heat
Yea sure. Let’s all go live in the tropical swamp and get drunk. What do you think the survival rate of that first weekend is? 60%? Let’s call them the lucky ones, shall we?
sweet just found you channel and in so happy. gold and gunpower with that name you can do the 100 year Indian war in America or gold rush war videos with the mexicans. hmm cool channel. i have one too check it out if you want thanks.
no way I'm from Idaho and i live outside México city. what makes you think you cant do it? did you go to pirate college or something is that why you started this channel?
because i take the research seriously and if i'd have to research vastly different topics it would either take a very long time to do, or i wouldn't be able to put so much detailed work in it. some of these videos i make have 6 or more literary sources, its not just shit i google or rip from wikipedia
@@GoldandGunpowder well i oove your stuff and if you decide to move to another topic when your done with this one if i can help let me know. what other things do you study?
Here's my pirate meme : An unborn is praying to God : God , please not Tortuga or Port Royal🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏. And when the baby is finally born : Doctor.........where am I ?🤨🤨🤨 Doctor : Nassau !!!!😃😃😃😃🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
That’s funny… the crocodilians were the most-feared creatures of the Yucatán Peninsula… nevermind about the jaguars, pumas, and likely historical populations of Mexican wolves & bears (extirpated/extinct since). And that’s not even counting the coralsnakes, rattlesnakes and other vipers! And the invertebrates!! And the diseases! It’s just like the Amazon. Lol.
So Charles Vane was a bayman before in Black Sails?
Rather interesting that was true, I never imagined people would actually consider living on the island where they chopped the wood as well.
I was always puzzled by that sequence until I learned about the baymen.
Working on a long poem about the Baymen - I think it's a fascinating part of history and this has been a great source. As an Irishman also named Daniel, it's amazing to hear of his escape. Cheers for this one, mate.
The poem sounds awesome!
@@GoldandGunpowder thanks! It was certainly fun to write. I'll send it on to you when it's done, if you'd like?
sure
Its great to learn about the history of the Caribbean from your videos- its very similar to the historical progression of the American frontier, except better, because it has buccaneers.
Keep up the great work! These videos keep getting better!
PS- angry old neoliberal says eat the bugs and live in the pod, peasants, I say it'll be a pirates life for me, rich bois.
im also very interested in the history of the american frontier, it has cowboys after all .)
Ahoy! Enjoyed learning about the Baymen. In my waters there are ruins of historic Indigo plantations with the equipment used to process Indigo still intact. There are even modern Indigo farms too! When I think of the Yucatan Peninsula today I think of eco tourism and Mayan ruins! Lol! Must have been brutal existence back in the 1700 & 1800's for log cutters!
Cool story about the Indigo plantation, great piece of history
Jolly fellows but not so jolly nature, interesting to know about people who in a way were similar to the bucanners but we're entirely different
Thanks!
Thanks for the mention!.
yo ho laddy
1:08 have you eaten cactus? It’s delicious and it’s a common food in Mexican households, along with beans and rice!
i have not, theres not a lot of cacti where i live but it sounds good
This channel is fun and educational as well as entertaining. I love it! Thank you for the high quality work.
14:24 with barbacoa, salt, lime, salsa, chopped tomatoes and onion, and aguacate, it’ll make for an awesome taco!
sounds good
What's it called...onion lime peppers and fish? All cut up into tiny little pieces.
@@phredphlintstone6455 Ceviche is the first thing that sprang to my mind, it's very good stuff, and can be quite refreshing, as an appetizer or snack, especially on a hot day.
@@VarangianGuard13 ah, thank you. Only had it once but it was great
This channel is a golden find. Thanks.
I just discovered this channel due to my rising interest in the game Naval Action and holy moly man, your humor and the way you give information is exactly like mine when it comes to War Thunder and me and my buddies. Fucking amazing channel man.
Ever play Wooden Ships & Iron Men?
Thank you for creating dude! PIRATES!!! It's been a weird few years.. i'm sure everyone is stressed in different ways I can't even begin to fathom. Funny history videos make the world a better place
God bless you brah! You use your talents well :D
11:04 alligators don't live in the Yucatan, only crocodiles inhabit Yucatan or the Caribbean for that matter. Alligators are restricted to the United States section of North America. Alligators also weren't so friendly a number of people die every year in attacks.
Helping out the algorithm as asked , excellent content enjoyed it very much
Great video about too little known pirates/woodsmen. Much new info.
The you will eat the bugs bit was quality 😂
Not gonna lie. I thought this was a music video when I clicked on it. 100% not disappointed
that would be a very long music video lmao
Another great video
omg i love this channel
Cheers again mate
This is some good stuff.
Back for another Gold and Gunpowder blast !
Nice video. I never heard of the Baymen.
maybe the alcohol and tobacco helped with the parasites...rough existence
ye, hard knock pyrate lyfe
Thanks
Hot Tamolies, the candy, also use the red bug die as coloring
Really interesting video, thank you! (having a huge catchup with all of your content!)
I love learning about all these offshoots of sea rovers and how they all interact. Would you say that these Baymen were the longest lasting loose sub 'group' of rovers during the Golden Ages? They seem to 'make it' through those ages, despite being chase off by the Spanish a number of times, right up to being part of a British Crown Colony in the 19th century.
Yeah the different offshoots are very interesting. I'd recommend the video on the boucaniers aswell, they were like the Baymen but hunters instead. It's hard to tell when Baymen and Boucaniers stopped being part-time rovers. By the 1710s, many Baymen sailed to Nassau and became pirates after the Spanish chased them out. On the other hand, many Baymen ships in 1718 were seized by Blackbeard and Bellamy, converted into pirate ships, and the loggers press ganged.
good content, new subscriber! 🥳🥳
Love your channel. Thank you for all of your awesome work. ❤
This is the first time hearing about bayman pirate's
glad to hear, my intention is to bring up more unknown pirate lore
Enjoying your content keep up the good work!👍🏼
Very cool
I’ve been to the yucatan, it’s very beautiful but yeah living in the areas the Baymen did would have been hell, and the mosquitoes are evil there
yeah probably for the best that you gtfo'd
Belize, not far south from the Yucatan was also a place with a lot of bay men. The Bay men were celebrated on St. George's Key Day, the Belizean equivalent of the 4th of July. *I don't know if this is still done.) They way they talked about them, you would think that they were the eqiveiant of George Washinton's armies.
The reason was that they took the side of the British during a way between Britain and Spain. The British won, and that is why Belize (Formerly British Honduras) became a British colony, and much later, an independent nation. Spain still believed that it was part of their empire, and when Gutamala became an independent nation, they took up the claim, creating a long sort of cold war, during which Guatemalan radio repeatedly said "Beliece es Gutamala," and British troops had to remain stationed there to keep them out. Evan still, I have watched videos about Belize and I still saw a comment that said "Belize is a province of Guatemala."
The Baymen were, I'm sure, in many ways not good people. But they were the ones who enabled Belize to become a Democratically run British colony, and then an independent nation that was a Democracy, instead of remaining ruled by Spain, and then by Guatemala, which became a brutal Fascist, racist, mass murdering (of Mayans)perhaps even genocidal nation. As they say, even an ill wind always blows somebody some good.
Baymen killed many mayans in belize near extinction in caste war
this sounds a lot like Charles Vane's season 1 plot line in Black Sails. Possible inspiration?
Based Baymen.
California maritime… all ya got. Capes to cascades and up the Colorado.
Love the sound, style and images of your presentation! Nice set up
I'm a little confused on the timeline...When did the Spanish start harvesting logwood? A few years before the English conquest of Jamaica?
Sorry, didn’t understand, how was the life OOD used with a flintlock
i dont know what "the life OOD" is
could you talk about how the early spainish settlers survived or talk about german immigrants
No that's outside the scope of this channel
Alligators are extremely docile unless there's something wrong with it. You've got little to fear unless its extremely hungry or too sick to hunt something bigger and dumber than you.
Nice
0:44 if I saw that guy he wouldn't see me
You make being a logwood cutter sound pretty bad... but then I look at my life and career choices in this life and think "yeah... that is likely where I would end up." Don't get me wrong, I would likely bitch about the crappy things, but hard self motivated work where you don't have a boss looking after you. Weird creatures trying to kill you in lands you don't fully understand, and having to be proficient with a gun, that actually describes more of my life than I want to admit to myself.
Eet zee bugs! Lel gud stufffren
Next video pirates🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Our salt water crocs in Australia would eat up the little gators
im sure the australian spiders could eat the yucutan gators
@@GoldandGunpowder Yes mate i do too ha ha
They guy that patented Louisiana hot sauce holds the record for largest alligator...forget how big, but it was in the 1880s I believe. 24 feet...26? Something like that
@@phredphlintstone6455 That`s a biggun
please do some videos on how pirates financed their first ships. did they ever use loans, shares, or business contracts with investors?
privateers and buccaneers had investors, either merchants or aristocracy, that were owed a share of the acquired plunder. a few privateers-turned pirates had investors, like Henry Jennings, but no one that started out as a man wanted for piracy would be able to get investors, you needed some sort of initial legitimacy
@@GoldandGunpowder that's very interesting thanks, would love to learn more
I want to do a video covering privateering contracts more, but with my current schedule, it might be a while, but there will be other videos that touch on it, especially the video about Captain Kidd whose investors got in a lot of heat
@@GoldandGunpowder ok thanks, I'm subscribed and will stay tuned
Crocodiles are typically larger than alligators. The animals you describe were probably Caiman. Not crocodile.
Yea sure. Let’s all go live in the tropical swamp and get drunk.
What do you think the survival rate of that first weekend is?
60%?
Let’s call them the lucky ones, shall we?
Shiver Me Timbers
shiver my sails
Well, THIS goes on the list of worst jobs ever
sweet just found you channel and in so happy. gold and gunpower with that name you can do the 100 year Indian war in America or gold rush war videos with the mexicans. hmm cool channel. i have one too check it out if you want thanks.
I love North American/Mexican history and the wild west but dont have enough knowledge to cover it and its outside the scope of this channel
no way I'm from Idaho and i live outside México city. what makes you think you cant do it? did you go to pirate college or something is that why you started this channel?
because i take the research seriously and if i'd have to research vastly different topics it would either take a very long time to do, or i wouldn't be able to put so much detailed work in it. some of these videos i make have 6 or more literary sources, its not just shit i google or rip from wikipedia
@@GoldandGunpowder well i oove your stuff and if you decide to move to another topic when your done with this one if i can help let me know. what other things do you study?
Someone would eat weevils.
delicious
Who cares if about eating bugs? We've always done it. There's an acceptable amount of bug mass in grain, its unavoidable.
Belize only has CrOcodiles not alligators
You will eat the bugs- in elven
Please cover the subject of pirates in Asia
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Cross and gators are 2 different animals
Arrrrrrr
Here's my pirate meme :
An unborn is praying to God : God , please not Tortuga or Port Royal🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.
And when the baby is finally born : Doctor.........where am I ?🤨🤨🤨
Doctor : Nassau !!!!😃😃😃😃🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
lol
That’s funny… the crocodilians were the most-feared creatures of the Yucatán Peninsula… nevermind about the jaguars, pumas, and likely historical populations of Mexican wolves & bears (extirpated/extinct since). And that’s not even counting the coralsnakes, rattlesnakes and other vipers! And the invertebrates!! And the diseases! It’s just like the Amazon. Lol.
No, I will not eat za bugz.🤠
Nope, 80cm foot worms and shit throwing monkeys. Not for me.
Based?
Eat zee bugs!!!