Melting beeswax in preparation to make hand lotion bars.
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With the Christmas Season just around the corner, Brother Austin is revving up the Monk Soap operation in anticipation of a very busy December. One of the first orders of business for him was to acquire more wax for the production of the lotion bars which is a great selling item at the Abbey Gift Shop, and for my part, I needed to supply him with an ample amount. So, on this video I do just that, melt the beeswax into a size that will meet his requirements. As you view the video, you will see I came across a mystery that I would love to hear your theories on. Let me know what you know or suspect so I can deal with the issue the next time it crops up. Thanks for watching. God's peace to all.
Mr. Ed
You're overheating the wax, which is why you're getting the granulation. Keep your temp down to no more than 170°F.
Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
I believe this is correct. Higher temps damage the lipid structure
@@Nurse_Lucy yeah, the heat denatured the proteins that make up the wax
Makes sense that it was the last batch also, the more wax the cooler the overall temperature. So maybe try decreasing the temperature as you go. Perhaps steam at the end also. On another note, my father was an amateur beekeeper for awhile, would make us kids turn the spinner to get the honey out of the frames, good times lol. Anyway, I'm enjoying your videos, Thanks for uploading!
@@cameronvanatti6629: wax is no protein!
Hi Mr Ed. Yes, I had exactly the same problem. I overheated the wax. When you do this the wax structure breaks down and it absorbs water. The wax becomes permanently damaged. Solar wax melters have the same problem, so long as you don't heat the wax from a solar wax melter in water, you'll be OK, but if you later melt it in water, it just absorbs all the water and it goes the same way as you've seen. Great videos, My bother and I watch your videos in the UK all the time. We now store our frames and sort them exactly as you do and I never get problems with the wax moth any more.
Looking at your previous wax melting videos and this one, I can see you normally have the water simmering, but this time it was boiling. Even so the water would not have gone above 100 degree C. However, this time you had less water in the kettle, and it looks like your wax was resting on the bottom of the kettle, so some of the wax would definitely have been heated to much higher than boiling point, so damaging the wax. Well, that's my theory anyway.
It looks like a foam layer between the wax and the water. Anytime you get water in your mold it forms on the bottom of the wax. Try to find a pitcher like a pancake batter dispenser. That way when you get to the bottom of your melted wax you can drain off the water from the bottom of the dispenser. I will look for such an item and send you a picture.
I jus recommended a candy funnel, lol. It's basically the same thing, lolol
@@labella9291 That proves brilliant minds think alike. I’m not so lonely now. 😂
@@e.a.deetssr.3253 I am a firm believer in smarter, not harder, and I think this would be much smarter, AND a time saver.
We know he's got his hands full day in and out, so I'm all for anything that would make his job easier on him, you know?
I am that one for unorthodox repurposing... Example, I am making dog food sausages, to make it easier to feed the dogs!! Will it work? It SHOULD. And in the end, it will be a time saver, because I can just give the dogs the appropriate number of sausages, instead of scooping and measuring.
I work on bioprocessing for Biotech and my thoughts are its likely the protein and fatty acids making an emulsion (fat/wax-water-protein mix) and forming that foam layer and also precipitating once the temperature cools. The protein is always going to be there from the enzymes in the honey and pollen, and the pollen could also be contributing other natural lipids and protein-lipid combinations and causing this. I'd suggest if possible trying to not use water, but if you want to use water I'd always change out for fresh water between batches, but the water is likely making this emulsion problem worse.
I agree - something is making an emulsion. Louisiana has soft water, so it's not likely that it's calcium, but something is causing it. He said that it hasn't happened before, so I don't think it's pollen or other biomaterials. It's more likely that some sort of emulsifying agent present in the water. Maybe it got contaminated with a soap or detergent?
Maybe some sort of double boiler setup would work better to prevent this? Interesting
I have to agree, the water is the issue, and because I have used water while melting wax over 100 times, this time there was something in the water. The simplest solution, don't use water, and because the kettle is a double boiler, I can do this easily.Thank you so much for contributing all your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Matt.
Mr. Ed
I think Matt's suggestion is the correct one, and I am going to use it. Thank you for your help and for taking the time to watch the video. Also, in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Debbie.
Mr. Ed
@@JeffHorchoff thanks I’ve certainly used so many of your tips while trying to figure out the world of beekeeping
Mr Ed, I’ve seen that before but not to that extent. I wonder if it’s some broken down propolis in the wax?
You need more molds! The amount of electricity that you’re using would be reduced with more molds. I know the silicone molds aren’t cheap. Thanks for the video! Remember, God is in control!
I'm ordering more molds for the next time, it would reduce the process in half if I had 6 more of them. For sure, God is in control. God's peace always Don.
Mr. Ed
I like how you showed us the wax melting in the forms. Each one had a flower pattern in the centre as they hardened up. How beautiful Jeff. ❤ 🐝
Indeed! I had to watch again to notice it!
Loved the video and your equipment. God bless.
Great video. I love to see that you show everyone how nothing goes to waste from the bees :) just beautiful! Thanks for sharing and letting me tag along :)
Good morning. There's no end to your talents. Have a good weekend Jeff.
You sure will be filling orders. I plan on placing my first one. I’m excited. I want so much lol. May try a little or each.
I love your personality as always and what you do and appreciate you taking us on the journey with you. Okay now I need to watch the video 😊
Love the beeswax videos. In fact it was searching for beeswax a few year ago that brought me to your channel and I’ve been watching ever since.
So very grateful that you discovered my channel the first time and have continued to watch since. Thank you so much for all the time you have spent following along. Until the next time, God's peace Ralph.
Mr. Ed
Another great video. 👍 very interesting to watch.
Fresh off the tree fruit for a snake, can't beat it! Will have to try beeswax lotion bars.
Wonderful gift shop sales numbers brother, Blessings.
Well done 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦
Love watching the process!!! Hope you find out what the problem with the sandy substance. Thanks for sharing!!!
It is definitly a reaction to the water, maybe not getting it to a rolling boil will help. Try lowering the temperture once the wax starts to melt so you don't get that hard rolling boil more like a simmer might reduce the effect. I have not made candles in a long time, but I remember never getting my wax to a rolling boil. Hope this helps
Thank you so much for contributing your thoughts to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate both of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Gene.
Mr. Ed
Thanks, Mr. Ed! 🐴
Thats a lot of wax! Nice. Bees are truely amazing
Rendering the beeswax is always a fun project for me, and there is so much interest from my viewers I will make 2 or 3 videos a year on the subject. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
I love these videos so much. I hope to be a bee keeper one day, it’s such an underrated important job. Keep up the videos!
I too hope you join the ranks of being a beekeeper, the world needs as many beekeepers as it can get.Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my over 500 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video almost every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
In the end you made lot of beautiful wax. Good luck in finding the problem source. I know the smell in the honey house was heavenly. Thanks for sharing. God bless.
Still got the job done, and had fun doing it....even though the mystery is not solved. Thanks so much for your blessings and for watching. God's peace brother and see you at Hive Live.
Mr. Ed
Loved the time lapse cooling
So glad to hear that, I thought it was pretty cool myself. In case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I hope you will check out those or maybe one of the other 500 that I have already posted. Looking forward to hearing from you again. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
I liked that too 😅
Great video, Mr. Ed! Thoughts: The "junk" on the bottom is the denser wax mixed with microbits of trash and intermingled with water. If you used a bottom-pouring jug (kind of like a mini version of the boiler you have) then you could pour off any water first, then once the wax starts coming out you use the rest to pour into your forms.
As for your molds, just get more of them to speed up production if you're pressed for time (I suspect you do lots of other things in the meantime while these dry), and when taking them out, flip over the whole mold and pop them out by pressing gently from the top which may help speed up extraction.
Peace in Him!
you mean honky dory hello Jeff so exciting Ibet the product is flying off the shelves Love the video.
I get so excited when I'm talking my mouth can't keep up with my brain and it just goes off on me. Thanks for watching. God's peace Mariel.
Mr. Ed
Definitely looks like mineralization of some kind. I’ve seen something similar in my area where we have extremely hard water. I’d install a pre filter on your water inlet and maybe not going to a rolling boil. Love your vids and have a blessed day sir!
Thank you for your blessings, suggestions, and for watching, it is all greatly appreciated. Until the next one, God's peace John.
Mr. Ed
So pretty!
So glad to hear you enjoyed the video, thanks so much for taking the time to watch it and leave your comment. Check out the link below if you have the time, it's a video I made showing all of the cottage industries here at St. Joseph Abbey. Also, in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Sherry. Mr. Ed
th-cam.com/video/NzByZB7f7vI/w-d-xo.html
Very clean candle molds and there are no impurities
I agree, clean molds and clean wax will ALWAYS give you a great product. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Looks good. ❤
Hey everyone he has been doing this same process for years in the same way! This i believe is the first time he has had this problem!
I like the idea someone came up with of finding a chemist to figure it out!
You said it was Oct. Did the Abby get flooded when the huricane came through. That could have changed the water in the area. The distiled water idea someone said might be the solution.
No, the abbey was not flooded, thank you Jesus! It is mostly agreed, the water was the villain, and next time I will use distilled water or no water at all because the kettle is a double boiler. Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Samantha.
Mr. Ed
Jeff isn't it just the wonderful Joy of the Lord to keep bees for Him. I Love to see His Joy over flowing your cup brother, Blessed Days. Do other people besides beekeepers sit and watch bees wax dry😉we are an odd bunch.🤣
Looks like air bubbles are forming from some type of reaction, but I'm not sciencey enough to know.😇Blessed Days Brother...
God's greatness surrounds us all if only we take the time to look for it...in good times and in troubling ones. I have to say, the time lapse was pretty cool to see. thank you for your blessings and for watching. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Wax is a mixture of poly chain waxy substances if you keep it melted, it will get separated by gravity... I think those chains have different melting points and they "crystallize" differently
The densities are too close together - convection currents in the melted beeswax would keep them from separating.
Yes, they have different melting points, but it would take very precise temperature control to take advantage of the characteristic.
I hope Jeff and his keep lives forever
Thank you very much for your kind words and for taking the time to watch the video, it is all greatly appreciated. Until the next one, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Enjoyed the video Jeff. Id sure like to have smell-a-vision. I bet the honey house smelled wonderful. That sure is a mystery about that white stuff. It will be interesting to find out what it is. You take care and God bless.
I am almost positive it is a beeswax/water emulsion - probably caused by the hard rapid boiling used to purify the beeswax.
I think it is a reaction with the water like others have mentioned. If you are going to be processing the wax for cosmetic use maybe melt and run it through a filter to remove any remaining solids or bees. Allow it to harden covered. To keep any other bees from falling in. Then melt just that wax no water. Maybe even find a burner/pot combo you can use in the honey hut to keep debris out. The massive kettle is still perfect for use on frames and rendering wax, but for cosmetic use working in slightly smaller batches inside might be better.
Thank you so much for contributing your thoughts to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate both of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Alex.
Mr. Ed
@@JeffHorchoff Sometimes city water has particals of dirt in it. My friend uses only bottled water to melt the wax.
@@131dyana When I lived in the city I use to distill my water. You wouldn't believe the gunk that was left behind.
Hi Jeff I have had this same exact problem and it is because the molten wax forms a saturated emulsion that as it solidifies the water comes out the only way i found to resolve the issue is to melt the wax without using water in a double boiler type melter, instead of using water in the jacket use canola oil
Thank you for your response. Im small time with a crock pot but had the same issue. Im going to try melting with no water and see what happens.
I have to agree, the water is the issue. By not having it in my kettle, and my kettle it is a double boiler, I would eliminate the issue. The puzzling question is I have done the same process a hundred times using water and never ran across this particular problem. I love the canola suggestion as well.Thank you so much for contributing your all your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Mike.
Mr. Ed
Let me know the outcome. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
@@theohiohousewife just be very careful of the temperature as it is easy to caramelise the sugars in the wax and make it dark brown
@@JeffHorchoff What the residue looked like when you scraped makes me almost certain it is a water/wax emulsion. I have never boiled the water/wax when refining the beeswax, simply melted it and stirred thoroughly to remove trash - with multiple refinings.
It is not necessary to let the wax solidify between refinings - you can drain off the water containing most of the garbage and refill the boiler with hot water so the wax remains liquid. If you drain off a bit of the wax when doing a water change, you even get rid of a lot of the slum that floats in between the water and the wax.
I suspect it depends on how hard you boil the recovered beeswax and how many times that determines whether you may have a problem. I would wager that it was the molds filled from the bottom part of the pitcher that had the problem.
Remember that if you heat the beeswax over about 80 degrees C, it will start to discolor.
Hi Jeff and hello from the UK
As the water is heavier than the wax it will go to the bottom, I would try and melt the wax at a lower temprature and do not use boiling water just the wax on it's own.
It will probably take a bit longer but I have a feeling it may work.
Just a thought, if you had a kettle with a tap higher up so you could drain off wax mid way, that way you are leaving the water at the bottom of the kettle.
Love the videos
Hey Paul! Thank you so much for your suggestions and for watching, it is greatly appreciated. I really enjoy making the videos on wax rendering and I have had a lot of successes doing it. However, this time it proved problematic, but I have worked out the issue, and it has not returned. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
This appears to be an emulsion forming between the water and wax. Melt at a lower temperature, and minimize agitation of the layers. Just avoiding boiling should prevent it entirely.
If it persists, try a smaller vessel when you run low on wax, maybe without the aid of water.
Thank you so much for your input and suggestion, it is greatly appreciated as well as for taking the time to watch the video. Also, I hope you will check out more of my over 500 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video almost every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
You could place a fan in front of the cooling wax to speed it up
Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Very interesting content, thank you sir
Those silicon forms are great for making muffins and cupcakes. You don't need to grease that pans or use paper liners. They are best thing since sliced bread. God bless you and your wife and your work for the glory of God.
I do love the silicon forms, they are awesome. Thank you for your blessings for Mona and me, and for watching the video. Until the next time, God's peace JJ.
Mr. Ed
I've had wax do that before. I just thought maybe I had burned/over cooked it somehow. I don't have an answer for you this time. Shocking, I know.
If it had been a bee question, I know you would have had the answer, but it would have been your dad who told you the answer and you would have just relaid what he said. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
The water is heavier than the wax so as you get to the bottom of the melter there will be a higher water content, so when poured into the mold there will be a higher water content in the bottom of the mold.
Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate it tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Wow i love it when you are inthe honey house ir melting wax thank you for the slow mo of wax drying i loved it .. but it looked like the wax turned white ..but the cake at the end were not white .. i hope to go in a road trip to visit soon
I'd love to have you visit me here at the abbey. Just make sure before you come to get in touch with me to make sure I will bee here. My email is
oscelata@gmail.com
Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
It's me agian i just wanted to say that keep going with the honey my frend
Thanks for sharing god bless everyone
Thanks so much for your blessings and for watching. Until the next time, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
When you were picking up the raw wax blocks, I couldn't be certain as we only saw the edge of most of the blocks, but it looked as though the particles that settle out on the bottom had not been scraped off those blocks before you melted them. Heating, especially to boiling would have just disbursed those bits throughout the liquid wax to be scooped up by your pitcher and poured into the little mounds? Hope this helps. Great video!
Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Wow that’s awesome I would love to buy some so beautiful 😍
The wax bricks really were beautiful and smelled sooooo good. Unfortunately, I do not have any extras to sell.Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate it tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Alana.
Mr. Ed
Hey Mr. Ed, I wanted to leave a comment on your video letting you know that you are the most humble person on the internet and I could never find someone as nice as you are here on the platform. As for your beeswax problem, I believe it's the fact that you have your wax soaking in water too long. I think that if you were to pour these into molds such as you're doing I wouldn't use water or let it soak in water or it would crystallize as it is doing right now. Thank you for being such a kind and humble person and you bring so much joy to everyone here!!!
the wax drying reminds me of the moons many phases
Great analogy, I did not think of that one. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my over 500 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video almost every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Carol.
Mr. Ed
Saran Wrap Bubby! God Bless!!!
Also when its strarts to get hard. You Could Take a Small Cross and indent each one thwn peel saran wrap off and Praise God!!!!!
I made frames with 1/8 hardware cloth, put paper towels on them, piled on the wax cappings, and melted them with a heat lamp. The wax was very clean with less steps. Plus you can make the frames any size or shape you want.
Awesome process, thanks for the suggestion and for watching. Also,I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Michael.
Mr. Ed
I bet all that was smells so good!!
I'm waiting until TH-cam puts "smell-o-vision" on their videos so I can include it on mine. It really does smell awesome. God's peace Jennifer.
Mr.Ed
Jeff, I so admire your work ethic. May I add my .02 to the problem discussion? Could this be the wax and water combining in some sort of an immulsification? Possibly dial back your heat to a simmer rather than a boil? Hope you find an answer.
You sell yourself way to cheap, that was worth more than 2 cents.Thank you so much for contributing your all your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Mike.
Mr. Ed
great video
So happy to hear you enjoyed the video, thank you for taking the time to watch it. I appreciate that tremendously. Also, in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Hi Jeff,
My advise. Your final wax rendering should be done in a simply cheaply built solar oven. Size up a large pot and Callender/Pasta Strainer. line the Callender with a large coffee filter or paper towels. Add a few inches of water to the pot. Place wax block on the filter/paper towels in the Cullender over the pot. Shut the solar oven and walk away. The next morning you'll have a perfectly filtered wax block with no impurities to scrap off. When re-rendering your blocks of wax to be poured into molds. Heat the wax to just above melting point. Do not boil. Best wishes brother. P. S. You could do this in a low heated conventional oven as well but a solar over would be cooler and an added content viewer's I believe will find to be extremely interesting. God Bless
Jeff. Mr. Phil here. Man, I love to watch this wax molding. i don't claim to be able to find problems that you can't find, but I am going to do some research and see if I can find anything about the possible reaction you had with those little bricks. I recently had a reaction in my product and I was able to do plenty of research and find the solution. People who don't work like you are working don't understand how these little problems slow down your progress and cause you to waist your limited productive time. Hey, again, I am so glad to have found your channel. I need to send you something to keep you warm over this cold winter. Mr. Phil - Sauce Boss
I'll happily trade items with you any time, and I'm glad you found my channel as well. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
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g. Ed
I have never had this happen to me BUT I am a very small operator. (solar wax melter). I always rinse my wax to remove any honey before I melt it. Maybe that is the problem. Love your videos.Keep Making More.!
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I love the simplicity of a solar wax melter....and they work extremely well.Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Duane.
Mr. Ed
I get those small hard particles also--- remember I asked you about them. I even see those particles on the outside of the hive boxes sitting on the ledges. I have come to think they are insect eggs of some sort. So to clean those out I have started passing the wax through a fine cloth mesh during a second melting.
It could have been, but I don't know for sure. In any case, the job got done, and it all worked out in the end. Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
@@JeffHorchoff just pass that part of the wax through old cottom t-shirt material with a rubber band over your pitcher
What is that yucky stuff on the wax, I’ve always been wondering! Anyways the scraping is always satisfying and the new wax looks way cleaner than before. Amazing work Mr. Ed, keep it up!
Hi Jeff, great video and very instructive and inspiring. Regarding the problem with the graining, could it be a reaction between the minerals in the water and the wax when melting? How about using distilled or rain water. Hope it helps.
If you use rain water, make sure it's water that's been collected only after 10 minutes of hard rain. It will take that long to wash the soot, etc. out of the air. Otherwise, those airborne chemicals can again affect your chemical reactions.
Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Ivo.
Mr. Ed
Why do you add water?????
@cindy peterson ...to avoid that the wax sticks to the bucket.
@@ivotamm7405 Also to keep from overheating the wax, which would be a fire hazard.
It's calcium carbonate from water that's been evaporating so the mineral content was concentrating in the remainder. Use distilled water for melting down wax and problem solved.
WOW! Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Danijel.
Mr. Ed
Hello Mr Ed muito bom dia, que produção linda de cera de abelhas, Belo trabalho, parabéns, que DEUS abençoe seu trabalho. 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
Muito obrigado por suas bênçãos, todas as suas amáveis palavras, e por tomar tanto do seu tempo assistindo minhas aventuras de disputa de abelhas. por tudo que você faz por mim, é muito apreciado. Até a próxima, a paz de Deus meu irmão.
Sr. Ed
Just got some Roosta' honey with my jacket from Guardian, does your honey taste similar? Some tasty! Don't know much about melting wax, but I aim to get some 1st hand experience this winter when I got the woodstove going. Only have a few #s, but enough to make a few candles and maybe try some other stuff with the clean stuff. Thanks for your infectious bright, kind spirit. Thanks for posting, peace.
Maybe you can use long pillar candle molds and just slice them. Then the contamination is limited to the bottom of each.
Thank you so much for contributing your thoughts to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate both of them tremendously. Until the next one, God's peace Michael.
Mr. Ed
The weird stuff on the bottom. it's a semi-emulsion of wax and water, I got the same problem when I let the water boil.
It's a pain but I had to melt the wax in a double boiler after the first render to remove the junk.
As I have a double boiler kettle to begin with, adding water is not necessary. However, since I have done the process 100 times before using water and never ran across this particular issue, it was a bit of surprise to me. that being said, next time, I won't be adding the water. Thank you so much for contributing your all your thoughts on the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. I hope you will check out more of my over 500 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video almost every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Ya you should definitely get some cheap window screen to cover the molds if you need to keep bees out lol
You would think I should have seen that one coming. One day I'm going to remember and think ahead.....probably not. God's peace Scrotie.
Mr. Ed
As others here have said, it’s water in the wax. It might also be lack of some sort of mound release. When I did candles, the wax sometimes did that because it was to stuck in the mound. I didn’t use or forgot the mound release spray.. another thing to consider is getting some sort of kettle for just the purpose of today’s video. There are videos on here that show people turning a presto cook pot into a wax melter complete with a valve for filling pitchers for pouring wax out of.. maybe do up like 2 or 3 if those so you can keep a running supply of melted wax to fill orders like this one.
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Or use a double boiler.
@@ReaperXxK for time constraints with larger amounts of wax, a double boiler would have to be quite larger to avoid it slowing down production. He was processing like 50pounds of wax. Your average double boiler would mean he’d have to melt and pour pitcher by pitcher. And don’t forget that doing it that way adds more time to the process because he’d have to break up the blocks of wax so as to avoid possible overflow in the melt pot. Now if he had a large metal insert to use in that big kettle he uses, then this would be a moot point.
@@troymoore7537 I wasnt meaning a literal one. moreso a makeshift one. like you said he was melting a large amount, even setting some sort of steel about 1/3 the way into the boiler wouldve sufficed. and if not that then he could always just use the DB on the bars that turned out sanded
@@troymoore7537 though you make a very good point
Hi Jeff! Thanks for all your fantastic videos!! Do you use tap water or rain water??
We have well water here at the abbey, and I really think something got into it this time because all the other times I have done this, at least a hundred times, I have never encountered this. Thanks so much for watching. Until the next time, God's peace.
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Do you make pillar candles? ?? Love this! 💜
No I don't. The bee operation along with working in the casket building take up all my time. I do however supply Monk Soap with the beeswax for hand lotion bars. They do make candles but not pillar candles. The video links below may be of interest to you. Check them out and let me know what you think. Thanks for watching. God's peace Lacy.
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I believe it may be propolis in the wax settling to the bottom .. it is Clearfield cause it has gone through all the cleaning as the wax has
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well Mr Ed i watched you as you was scraping and with the comments some great ideals but it made me think of a video you done with the white foam on top of your honey come to find out it was peroxide maybe that could be part of the problem not sure it was your video but kinda sure great videos
When I was cleaning my wax for a local beekeeper, I melted it down and poured through Reusable Cleaning Cloth Wipes Multi-Purpose Heavy Duty Towels Domestic Dish Cloths. It's like a wave pattern cloth that filters all the parts, I did this about 2 to 3 times and it came out perfect.
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This looks like what you scrap off the blocks when you put them in the bucket
It really does, that's why I couldn't understand why it keep reforming. Normally, I scrape it once, and that's all you have to do. Anyway, I got the job done, and it all turned out good so I was very pleased. Thanks so much for watching, and until the next time, God's peace Opie.
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my uneducated guesses would be either minerals from the falling out at the boarder between water and wax, or it could be proteins that are left over are denaturing and making little granulating stuff that the wax binds to. A solution would be a heating method that doesnt need water preheated maybe an induction kettel and slower heating?
And by the way i bet you could pour way more bricks in one go if you get these plastik planters they use at garden centers
I think those would warp from the temp of the wax.
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Mr.Ed great video. Enjoy learning from you. My bees have been bringing in pollen, this last week of January, on the warmer days. I'm in SW Louisiana. Any idea where they are getting it from? They have been active for the last two weeks on the warm days. Thanks for the info.
With the warm weather back for a bit, plants will bloom and the bees will find them. Truthfully, I can not say with certainty what specific type the pollen is, but be grateful they are bringing it in. What part of LA are you in? Thanks for watching. God's peace Stephen.
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@@JeffHorchoff Choupique, La. South of Sulphur, off of exit 20 on interstate 10.
Ah the pre Christmas lotion bar video I was expecting. Shame Brother Austin never made an appearance. Others have suggested an overheating/water issue but have you considered 635 sabotage?
He was my first suspect, however he had a really good alibi, his wife vouched for him. As soon as he is ready, Brother Austin told me we can shoot the production of the lotion bar video, stay tuned. God's peace brother.
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Your kettle drain seem tilted, which is perfect to do phase separation like you would in chemistry or when extracting essential oils. You drain the water out in a jar using the tap of the kettle - slowly, until you start getting the wax. Then you know you only got wax left in the kettle. You can drain a little bit more to get the slime out (and remelt it the next time to not lose the excess after you scrape the nasty part off)
That way, the slime should be in the jar and not pose problems when you pour into the molds.
Also, try to keep heating the wax just above its liquefaction point, it will avoid degrading and recombining its compounds that forms the slime.
Have a good one.
Its definately contaminated but I cant say what it might be. You are doing what Id suggest. Totally empty the wax kettle and reprocess the large wax blocks. Then remelt and try again. Maybe wash the molds with soap and water and let them dry. Good luck!
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When you draw the wax from the vat, run it through a filter BEFORE you put it in the pitcher. You had those black bits at the bottom of the wax when you put it in the vat. A coffee filter works pretty well. Just remember to keep the filter warm and you can get away with using one filter for the whole vat. That's what my GRANDMOTHER did when she made candles.
She had a wire stand she made on the wood stove. She said that if the wax cooled it would block up the filter. Don't know if that is what happened but I do know she had a pie pan under the filter to keep the mess down.
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Hello Mr. Ed , I was wandering how you heated your wax tank ? I'm assuming it's steam . If so what kind of boiler ? I enjoy your videos , Thanks
It is a double boiler heated with natural gas. Since I don't need to put water in the tank, the next time I will just melt the wax that way I won't run into this problem again. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my over 500 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video almost every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Jimmie.
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Very interesting video, can you show the rest of the process?
Yes indeed! As soon as Brother Austin tells me he is ready to make the lotion bars, I will be videoing it. Stay tuned. Also, in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Michael.
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Mr.Ed take clear glass of water let it sit for a day and see if there's any settlements at a bottom of the glass.
Will do, thanks for that and for watching. God's peace Ron.
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Pollen in the wax might form that sand pattern. Just scrape the sandy stuff of and clean it again. That's kind of the last bit of unclean wax. I get it to sometime. To much honey and pollen and other particles in the wax. Melt it down again and clean it one more time, till it is gone. Good luck! And hope to see you in Severville in january!
It could have been, but I don't know for sure. In any case, the job got done, and it all worked out in the end. Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Make sure you tell me hello in Severville, I'm looking forward to being there. Until the next one, God's peace Yasmin.
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@@JeffHorchoff to you too!
try to let it settle (after boiling) for some time before grabbing a pitcher's worth.
I suspect, if you scoop (even from the top) after it's just been boiling you'll still have the same problem.
But---that is just a guess.
I actually did that, let the water come to a complete rest after boiling, and it did the trick. Live and learn. God's peace brother.
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Do ya'll have "hard" water over there in Louweeeeezzzana! 😁🤪🤣👍👍🇺🇸
Our water is from a well here at the abbey and it is soft. Thanks for watching. God's peace Terry.
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I would try using Distilled Water. If your using Tap Water maybe its in the water. Just a thought. Every video you make is so educational for me. Thank you Jeff and crew. 🥳
I thought something was up with water too! Contaminates from recent work on the water supply. Ask kitchen staff if they noticed any water problems, they are usually the first to see it!
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I'm sure it's a water supply issue as I've done the same process literally 100 times and never saw this issue before. In case you did not know,In case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I hope you will check out those or maybe one of the other 500 that I have already posted. Looking forward to hearing from you again. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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Hi, this is my first time watching your videos, I love how you explain what you're doing, now I know nothing of bees; except that they sting, but the first thing that came to mind when I saw it is foam from boiling. Mixed with the sediment on the bottom, like I said, I know nothing of what you're doing, but figured I would comment anyway.
So happy to have you watching and commenting, thank you very much for doing so. I found out the problem with this batch, our water was contaminated. Our well water was shut off and when it started up again, all kinds of sediment was in the water and that was the culprit. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Lisan.
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I’d love to have snowboard wax made with your honey mr Ed!
No doubt you'd have the fasted board out there, and a trail of bees following behind.It could have been, but I don't know for sure. In any case, the job got done, and it all worked out in the end. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the video and leave your comment, it is greatly appreciated. Also, in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Scott.
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Jeff, what are your thoughts on experimenting with a smaller diameter and much taller kettle, Only to be used only for last part of wax. If it's a smaller diameter, the floating wax may be higher and easier to skim from the top.
I wish I did have a smaller diameter, taller kettle, I could get a larger layer of wax floating on the water. Unfortunately, this is all I have, and it has worked perfectly the last hundred times I did it. For whatever reason, this time it messed up. I'm sure it was a water issue, but the next time I do this I will simply use the wax with no water since it is a double boiler kettle. Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts and suggestion to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
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it's paraffin, Foundation manufacturers add paraffin to make Foundation elastic so it's easier to process in machines. when the paraffin is overheated, that granular layer is obtained
A very good possibility!Thank you so much for contributing your your thoughts to the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. And in case you did not know, I post a new video every Friday, and I would hope you could check some of those out or a few of the 500 that I have already posted. Until the next one, God's peace Aleksandar.
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More molds! can fit 4 of those molds in chafer steam tray fr buffet, a thin layer of ice. Molds should pop in 30 min 🤞🙏🤩😍😍😍😍🤩😍🐝🐝🌺
I just ordered 8 more molds, it will shorten my work time for sure. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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I would definitely run it through a fine strainer! Our local keepers do a first filter through cheesecloths, and then a fine strainer and it helps tremendously!
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Ole Randy came over a sabotaged ya! LOL Naw, he wouldn't do that! Would he?!?! LOL
He was my first suspect, but he had a really good alibi. Thanks for watching. God's peace Scott.
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Are you are on a well or city water? Brother Austin will be very happy
We are on well water, and I really think something happened there. Still, the job got done and everything worked out for the good, thank you Jesus! Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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That weird wax at the end looks very weird, but I wonder if might be "microparticles" from the very hard boiling of the wax. So as it cools in the kettle, it forms those weird structures. It would also trap a ton of wax, maybe. Not a beekeeper, but just thinking about the physical process of going from a liquid to a solid.
As I have a double boiler kettle to begin with, adding water is not necessary. However, since I have done the process 100 times before using water and never ran across this particular issue, it was a bit of surprise to me. that being said, next time, I won't be adding the water. Thank you so much for contributing your all your thoughts on the mystery and for taking the time to watch the video. I appreciate all of them tremendously. I hope you will check out more of my over 500 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video almost every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother.
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You mentioned that these blocks were from the end of your wax run. I have had a similar problem myself and I came to the conclusion that it was water/steam penetration in the wax. Do you think this could be your problem too? I don't really hae a solution for you but the way I resolved it was to leave some wax behind and use it in the next batch. I notice that you weighed the blocks at the start of the process so it might be better to weigh the total amount of wax as an output from the process rather than as an input weight (unless that information is important to you).
Thank you so much for your suggestions, they are really good ones. I'm certain that my problem on this batch was a water issue. We are on a well, and there was a problem with it and they shut the water down. When the started the well up again there were contaminates in the water, and I think that was the issue as I had never experienced the problem before.Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Paul.
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Jeff, thanks for all the great videos and information. I really think the problem you're having is the result of melting the wax in water and allowing the water to boil vigorously, which is likely causing a highly-aerated wax/water emulsion (of sorts). Since your melter has a water jacket my suggestion would be to melt the wax by itself - no water at all - and then fill your pouring pitcher from the valve on the bottom of the cooker while filtering the wax through 2 or 3 layers of old t-shirt.
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I think there's water/steam in the wax towards the bottom. If you get the water off and do just pure wax I bet it won't do that. But you say it's like sand, is it gritty? That's strange. I need to get me some of that Monk soap to wash away my sins. lol I'm glad I watched this, I needed the inspiration to get out and work my wax cappings. Thanks for the video. P.S. Dirt Rooster beat you to Oklahoma.
He told me all about their visit with you guys, man was I jealous. I mean after all, I knew you before he did. Just to show you I'm not too jealous, I'm going to have to send you some Monk Soap to help with your sins. Now get out there and work on them cappings. God's peace brother.
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Is your Beeeessness Beeeesswax Beeeeelotion! 😁😱🤪🤣👍👍🇺🇸
Mr Ed is a real lotion man
You need to melt in a presto pot with a drain and no water. The presto pot let's you regulate the tempature without water. The crystals are sugar, water and the wax.
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