I had friends who lived in 55+ communities, so I already knew it wasn’t for me. Instead, I moved to a small town just a few miles from a large college town. I’m so happy with my decision. Medical facilities and lots of activity diversity close by, and small town ambiance at churches and community center.
This is a great video. I live in a 55+ community in Tucson. Ours is quiet and neighbors respectful. You can be active if you like, or less social if you choose. We have a reliable HOA and they do an amazing job. You hit on points everyone should consider. I especially agree that you have to choose to be happy, social and involved.
You're right, people in Arizona, pretty much no matter where they're from, are very insulated from their neighbors and don't tend to welcome newcomers. Huge houses (like in your drone flyover shots), on large lots and block walls all add to the isolation. We moved from Phoenix 18 months ago to a small town in northern Califronia in a "regular" neighborhood. Now only did everyone pitch in and help us unload there was a block party within a month for us. We love where we live and would never turn back. So, yeah, what you leave behind, you leave behind.
I moved into a 55 and older community when I was 50. Best decision I could have ever made. You could experience any of the last 5 things listed living in a normal community. My adult children live less than 12 to 4 miles away and no, they don’t visit much. I am now 56 and I Love my beautiful home and my neighborhood!! I hope this helps
It wasn’t a 55 and over community, but my brother lived in the same development as our father. The HOA president was a very combative person, and my brother was carefully putting word out in his community that maybe she should be replaced. She called our father to “let him know” what my brother was doing. My brother is an educated, successful grown man who lived in that neighborhood for 10 plus years without problems until this board president. She literally told on grown ass man to his parent, what a nut. My brother moved shortly after, it was enough.
Good advice. One thing I would add is this: If something happens to your kids and you need your grandkids to move in with you - it will not be permitted in these communities. In particular is Sun City, which is a township / city on its own more than just a 55+ community. Sun City does not collect property tax that supports schools; therefore, having young kids will not be tolerated to be living long-term at your residence.
I can understand the need of an HOA in a 55+ community, as retirees may have RVs, and for the RV owner to save money from rental space costs, would park their RV in front of their house. Imagine having 10 residents along a street with parked RVs. The HOA serves as a constable that prevents residential streets being cluttered with RVs and trailers.
Seems a lost opportunity. I've seen developments that have community docks and homenowners can rent a slip at a very reasonable price as part of the benefit of living there. Why don't we start building RV parking lots in these communities that do the same thing? If RV parking in front if a house is so offensive, why not create a solution instead of a dictatorship?
@@atinyweneebebe4903 The developments you wrote about for community docks: One has to give credit to the altruistic temperament of the developers with generously providing the land for those RV slips. I've been in the civil engineering field where such unselfishness was lacking, and have listened to real estate developers concerns when it came to utilizing land for residential development, to paraphrase their concerns: _'How can I minimize the amount of empty space on the land to maximize the amount of homes that can be built on that property?'_ I recall in one housing development that called for the street width at 44 feet, the developer wanted the street width reduced to 31 feet. Why? In the limited property space for that development, narrower streets would allow for four additional rows of houses to be built. That would mean more dollars of profit to be made out of that [developer owned] property space. The RV parking lots would take away land that would otherwise be used to build houses on. The fewer houses built on land equates to fewer dollars in the developer's pockets.
We live part time in a small 55 park in south Texas. You mentioned your toilet paper rule. I go by the washing sheets rule. When I’m washing sheets and remaking the bed for the same person/people, and doing their laundry .. their stay has run its course.
I lived in an over 55 community, and I loved it, I was renting, I work full time, so I didn't participate in the activities nor was I expected to. Neighbors were great, and in the year I lived there I only participated in one block party. No one pushed alcohol since I don't drink. It is up to the person if they want to get involved or not. I am wanting to find another community to go live at.
I will be inheriting my parents condo in Vero Beach. I am grateful for the opportunity to live part of my year there plus the Northwoods of Wisconsin- best of both worlds.
I thought l decluttered before moving, reality is do it all early in the process, every shelf, every drawers, closet. Declutter every surface. Don't get emotional. Keep a distant in thoughts, about putting emotions on items or your boxes will be will you for the next move. Good call.
I moved three times in 8 years and totally agree with declutterring. If you haven’t touched/looked at that item in a year, donate it or dump it, especially in that garage!
I just turned 55 last month, and I forgot that I'm now eligible for these communities. I've always wanted to live in one when i got old enough. Seems like a great place to live amongst like-minded people of my own age! but thank you for bringing up things to consider. Especially the HOA! I used to work for an HOA, and sent letters, went to all the meetings, etc. I would be VERY careful about buying in an HOA community. If I did, I would attend the meetings.
Thank you for sharing this very important information for those of us retired or getting ready to retire. I was thinking of a 55+ community as I am single and was thinking of living in a community where I can meet people BUT I am not a “living by my rule” person. I’m thinking about getting some property and having horses, goats, chickens etc. Having that kind of responsibility will keep me busy and I won’t have time for foolishness and my animals will love me for taking care of them.
What a worthwhile speaker! Every point was practical and well thought out. I have lived in these communities and I wish I had known some of these points. Thank you
My husband and I know for sure that we want to have a lot of land to work on and have animals like our grandparents did before us that made them strong well into they passed way
Many of the commenters seem to live in or are only focused on Arizona or Florida. Every state has 55+/60+ communities and they aren't all sprawled out single family, detached homes. Some are patio homes, townhouses, or apartments, and many are rental or may be coops. And I'm never living in Florida!
Thank you for such an interesting video - I just retired two years ago at age 59 - I was from a western state, and had done my “homework” on the Arizona 55+ communities for about ten years in preparation of retiring there. I was about ready to pull the plug and move to Arizona until I visited the The Villages in Florida. WOW! There is nothing in Arizona that compares to The Villages for those, like myself, seeking a very busy and active retirement. You literally never need to leave “the bubble”, as all shopping, entertainment, recreation is all here and all golf-cart accessible. for $189 per month, you have access to free golf on over 50 courses, over 3000 social clubs, over 60 rec centers, miles of dedicated golf-cart only paths, world-class entertainment, concerts and shows, and outdoors musical entertainment at four (soon to be five) public squares every night of the year. I made the decision to buy a new home here last year, much cheaper than a resale would have been in Arizona. I’m very happy here. Had I retired to Arizona I would have enjoyed it, but I think it’s important to seriously compare the two locations before making your final decision. Arizona would have been more sedate, and I was looking for an extremely active lifestyle, where I have multiple events, classes, clubs to attend each and every day..
We've been looking into moving to a CCRC (all levels of care from independent to skilled care) community and you've made some excellent points to consider. We've decided that we need to plan for our advanced years and not depend on someone else to care for us.
Completely avoid renting if possible. It will NEVER truly feel like YOUR home. And, all it takes is one busybody neighbor who is 'friends with the office', and you will wish you had a car to live in instead. The bullying tactics start and, because they stop short of doing anything that is technically illegal, they get away with it. The protections for renters you hear and read about seem to be 'just for show.' One example: I had two outdoor five inch crosses on my lawn for over two years (we have separate buildings and units) and had them removed by the 'office' because my new neighbor (who lives in a completely different building) was 'offended' by them. It seems this tenant has more rights than I do. I contacted the local Human Rights Commission who sided with the other tenant/office, and I can find no law that addresses this matter clearly. Since that time, it has been one petty thing after another. Management is aware I am in poor health, but they clearly do not care. What they care about is their so-called friends. There is an affordable housing crisis where I live in the mid-hudson valley in NYS, so moving is not an option at this time. Again, do NOT sell your home when you retire to rent instead (thinking it will be easier), because it will never be 'your' home. It will also be rare if anything that needs to be repaired will be done (e.g., gutters are clogged, flooding is terrible and I feel like I live in a rainforest, complete with bugs, overgrown bushes and weeds, toxic trees and all. I gave away my outdoor furniture because it is impossible to sit outside without being eaten alive. As for inside, I purchased my own products to make sure nothing enters my apt that is not human. I also bought air purifiers and a dehumidifier) P.s. If you ask for anything to be fixed or try to fight back against the blatant favortism, things will likely only get worse for you. I just started buying lottery tickets; I know it is a very longshot, buy it is the only hope I have of getting out of here and living in peace. DO NOT RENT UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE! EDIT: Just read other comments here and, even though it is a disgrace how these troublemakers behave, I feel vindicated. I bother no one and mind my own business, but they still keep coming for me. Btw, I live at Brigham Senior Housing in Kingston, NY. I was not going to name them, but every word I put here is true. I WILL NOT live in fear of further retaliation and I WILL NOT protect their wrongdoings from being exposed.
I need this kind of video for moving into a condo for the first time. I although I researched a lot (I thought) but still I was fairly naive. I never imagined that our condo board would be SO PICKY or that they would use so many chemicals here.
From videos that I’ve seen, this is not for us. I am very ready to downsize but my husband wants no part of retirement communities, condos or cluster homes because of negative experiences of friends. My advice for people who are thinking I’d downsizing is to move into a ranch in a development community.
You might watch some of my other videos. We have so many great Active Adult communities! Development communities have the same issues but just different people. Might be worth a visit to a state that you think you might like. You might be missing out!
Exercise extreme caution. We to have heard very negative experiences from friends too. We downsized into a ranch in our mid 50's ten years ago in a regular neighborhood in our same small town community and did not regret it after some meaningful research and exploration. Although there are advantages with HOA's, there can be a significant downside we learned the hard way owning a beach condo. In addition, it's hard to make friends. It takes years to make lasting deep relationships. Staying put was the right decision for us. The missing out part is too often an illusion, followed by despair and isolation if you're not extremely extroverted.
I have lived in a lot of places in my 60 years, 20 with the Army! My wife and I brought a rural house, we both wanted to live away from people! I am an old country boy, so I use to it n prefer! My wife is an old city girl and now loves living in an isolated rural location!!!! Furthermore, rural areas are a lot cheaper to buy than the metro areas!!!!!
A friend living in a 55 community lost her daughter and SIL in an accident. She needed to care for her grandchildren but was not allowed to bring them permanently to her home. She had to sell at a loss and leave. The children were teenagers.
I bought a mobile home in a privately owned 55+ park in Southern California 2 years ago before retiring. There are over 300 units. The managers are strict but fair. I don’t mind and follow the rules and regulations. Our little corner everyone is respectful and kind, no one is intrusive. I really enjoy the peace and quiet where I live and take care of my mother. I am single and childless therefore I don’t worry about family and visitors.
A new lithium golf carts costs around $16,000. Required insurance about $375 per year. Trail fees vary as whether you play golf or have one for just for socializing
I am considering moving from a 4,000 sq ft to a 2,000 sq ft home in a gated 55+ community. I worry about how I will like the smaller living space and living in closer proximity to other people and also nosy neighbors.
I feel it. It's hard to look around you (clothes,furniture,etc) and decide on what to let go. Would I participate in the social activities in the 55+ community, if I don't already regularly go to the city senior center.
You might be pleasantly surprised! Most neighbors aren’t nosy. They’re nice people who want to be in a fun community just like you do. Downsizing is great once you realize that stuff no longer matters like it did when we were young. Call me if you’re coming to AZ and I’ll tell you the story of how I did it myself. Couldn’t be happier!
I can’t believe people say they’re downsizing to 2000 ft.² house. My house is 1500 ft.² and it’s the largest house I’ve ever lived in and I’m starting to think it’s too big. Of course, I’m kind of a minimalist and people say it looks like no one lives here or it looks like I’m moving because I really don’t have much stuff but yeah I can’t imagine living in a 2000 or 3000 square-foot house, all my rooms would be empty.
@@LynsAlteredArts Yeah ! Thank you for that comment ! I’m the one who said “ wow “ one comment above ! Lol ! After my divorce I was ready to go into a sailboat or a tiny house !
We rented before we bought a unit in our condominium community. Renting gives people the chance to try it out. Im a snowbird, still here in Arizona due to an accident. I love being here. I would choose this type of living arrangement Year round if I could.
My husband pushed a move to an over 55 in Ga.. I hate the state. And town and miss my friends and family, especially my son in Ct.. so much. The house is huge. I am so unhappy. Also, I have health issues and don’t like the medical here.
So sorry you’re in that situation! I will say thT it takes a while to really get into the swing of things in a new place. Moving can be hard. Hope things improve for you soon. 🤗
I DON'T live in a 55+ and my children live only 8-10 mins away, but I had no one to drive me back and forth to Chemo because they HAVE to work. My husband owned a business and gone a lot, so I had to drive myself. Thank goodness I was able to, that's all I can say.... I am a very low keyed person, so I don't think I would like a club house based community, but that's just me... I LOVE my freedom and access to everything in the suburbs and will stay here as long as possible...
You're right...happiness is a choice. We love our small 55+ HOA and have been lucky enough to become part of a community that enjoys getting together. We may not share political views, life experiences, etc., but we're all mature enough to accept our differences and rise above them. Our biggest peeve is people who feel rules don't apply to them. If you insist on feeling that you're too 'special' for rules, don't buy in an HOA. Those rules might be very important to your neighbors. And we put visitors up in a nearby hotel instead of dedicating a room for guests...that's my arts & crafts room now! And a smaller yard leaves us a lot more time to indulge in fun stuff instead of maintenance.
Thank you so much! Planning to buy or rent in Sun City West this fall. Trying to figure out how to live in a smaller home. Your advice was timely and great. Thanks again.
I’m a 62 yr old recent retiree from the NE and I’m thinking about doing a reverse snowbird lifestyle, I.e, stay in the SW during the not-too-hot months, and then head back up to the NE for June-Oct. but, I have no idea about living in the SW (I lived in Manhattan for almost 40 yrs and now live on the shore in CT). I’m planning on doing some recon soon, and would like to hire an disinterested consultant to maximize the efficiency of those trips. Not sure if this presenter fits that bill, but I’ll reach and find out.
I’d say that over half of my clients are not drinkers. Most of the other half are responsible. Like anything there are just a few who never grew up. You can still find community and social interaction without alcohol. I do! Thanks for watching. 🙂
You might want to check out a 55+ community where new homes are being built. Typically that is where my younger clients like to explore. Thanks for watching!
Very interesting points. We moved to a small development in Suffolk an hour away from Essex. Thought the grandchildren would come up more often so did get bedrooms for all. My parents retired 4 hours away. I wish I’d have realised they would only come up 4/5 a year I would have moved another hour away. However friends have come but what we didn’t give any thought to was that we moved in our middle 70s and those friends, even though they were always outgoing, energetic people don’t want to drive/travel at their age. Here in England all new developments have to have Management companies, which I’m guessing is roughly the same thing as your HOAs. If it’s a small development you can manage it yourself. If it’s big you get someone else to do it. This is a very new thing and not all people know this. I always said I didn’t want to retire to a flat with maintenance charges because of the unknown expenses and I’m cross with myself for having done it with the new house. However, all is wonderful in our new home and we are making new friends all the time, in this village and a few others as well.
I am living in a retirement complex, and am very happy here. We have a managing company and they aren’t the best, but they could be much, much worse. I am secure. I can lock my home and go away for long holidays. We have a building firm that looks after all the bits that need seeing to. I have a group of friends and we meet in the communal lounge twice a week, go out for meals off and on and have group activities - scrabble, doing jigsaw puzzles, exercise sessions, etc. I think I might have been a recluse eventually if I had lived elsewhere. No danger of that happening where I am. I am humbly grateful.
People often go to places like the Villages and then want to leave. Folks should watch videos like this one and maybe drive around the locations for a "look see." I think though that most of these places like Villages are really an extension of high school. You play sports, eat out and hang with friends and clicks develop. If you are unconventional and not as interested in a tee time at the golf course and getting a brewski with the gang, these places may not be for you. There is an obvious conforming undertone to it all.
We always recommend a visit to preview each area. Just curious as to whether or not you’ve lived in an active adult community. You seem to have had a bad experience. Thanks for watching!
Well said. It's fine for individuals who want to extend the sophomoric party life into their senior years, and I agree, that there is probably pressure to follow the herd once there. I do love these videos, as they do provide additional reasons why I avoid the 55+ communities. It's a very individual decision and ought to be considered carefully.
If I retire to Green Valley is it better to get a home with $350 HOA fee that covers roof, exterior, landscaping and roads or is it better to get the $50 HOA that just covers road and common area? Your opinions appreciated!
Great question! It depends on your individual situation. The higher HOA works well for people who don’t have large cash reserves for big things like roofs. The small fee is good for people with cash reserves. It’s also fine when a home has had recent update of big systems. Lots of variables so before you start looking be sure to reach out to me and I’ll help you make the best strategy. I really appreciate you watching my channel!
Excellent excellent excellent true presentation. Every single thing you said, of course leaving out the fact that you will miss a variety of ages. We’ve been age segregated all our lives from kindergarten right through this retirement process. I have been retired for 20 years and gone through everything you said. … you said it well.
How about renting to see if I like the area . I have never been to Arizona . The only thing I would look forward too is the daily walk . TH-cam is one of my hobbies . Enjoyed all of your info , but can I test the water before I jump in . Plus real estate has gone up to ab-normal high the last 2 years . Thanks .
Individual owners handle their yard maintenance. We do have a growth spurt of weeds every year in the spring so I bet that’s when we shot that clip. It only last a week or two and then the weeds are eradicated. Simple task. Thanks for watching my channel!
the golf courses look lovely.......the neighborhoods however, like penitentiaries.......no thank you.......downsizing to us would be having a HUGE yard sale and closing down the 2nd floor of our farmhouse. Can't imagine spending our senior years with strangers when we have such wonderful family and friends nearby......not to mention our dogs, cats and horses. Definitely not for us.
Great comment. There was no mention of the struggle to make friends in a general context. We're with you and so pleased that we decided to stay put near kids, friends, community not to mention pets and the general mess of life. Some seem to love it, but it's just not for everyone.
I feel safe in my 55 + mobile home park, not worried about getting mugged or robbed when I walk just as the sun is coming up. I like it here. Everyone is friendly and nice. I join what I like which is just a couple of things....no pressure. Contrary to the negative comments, this is a great way to spend your senior years....I also pay lot rent, NOT an HOA.
I'm so glad I've found you! Your infor. on what all to consider before moving/ choosing 55+ living are great! I wish you also worked in the southen Utah area!!🤞 Ve
Sorry, in my opinion 55+ communities are are garbage.The houses are too close together and God forbid you run afoul of the militant HOA.You could get lucky and have some great neighbors but its an expensive crap shoot. When i retired my wife and I left a community, not 55+ and no HOA and moves to the south to a beautiful place on 2+ acres, peaceful, beautiful and i'm not paying for a clubhouse or a pickleball court that I have no desire to utilize.
All communities are fine for non-drinkers. Same thing as a non-55 plus neighborhood. Lots of people who drink and many who do not. I drink very little and do just fine in all of them. Times have changed and being a teetotaler is more and more common. Some people get irritated at the higher alcohol consumption in these communities so it is good to be aware and gravitate towards other activities where there are more sober people. Thanks for watching!
I have never lived in a 55+ community. What is resale like? I have always had a 3 bd 2 bath, it’s just me so off and on I rent yo a traveling nurse, is this acceptable?
You can find rentals in most communities. Some places have restrictions so be sure to check when choosing a location. Rents in many are much higher in winter but as a travel nurse your housing allowance is adjusted for that. Renting is a great way to check out the active adult lifestyle and see if you enjoy it. Thanks for watching!
Last year I visited a good friend that lives in an HOA. We were talking in his driveway when his phone rang. It was some busybody neighbor wanting to know who he was talking to. Personally, I would have cut loose with a barrage of verbiage the likes she's never heard before. Of course my friend is a better man than I, so he was diplomatic. 🙄
Wow! That is crazy! I've lived in lots of HOA's over the years and I've never heard anything that bad. But I can tell you a much worse story in my non-HOA neighborhood about nosiness. I think we just live in a sad state of affairs these days.
@@Southwest55Plus In a non-HOA neighborhood, neighbors within 1 or 2 houses from yours are the major concern. In an HOA some busybody 9 blocks away can whine and complain about your tumbleweed in your yard. And of course instead of telling the busybody to "get lost", they'll cite you and foreclose on your house. HOAs just bring out the worst in people.
Any advice on an older community , over 55, that has been bought, and future lot rent for new owners have more than doubled. Our concern is how do we protect our home equity when we're being held hostage. Our homes typically sell within 30 days, now future owners are walking away from the over $900 lot rent. Any help would be appreciated.
So sorry this is happening to you! Unfortunately this is common and the high lot rents will reduce your home equity as the monthly cost climbs. If you can sell then find an option where you own the ground. I wish I could be more helpful but the community owner is king and they are there to profit.
Oh my goodness, to each their own but I’m going to be 66 in a few weeks, still working 30 hours per week as a nurse ( only cut back to meet the criteria for drawing my company funded pension) people outside of my work place are constantly asking when I’m going to retire, my health is excellent, my mind is sharp, I have no ache’s or pains anywhere and pretty much still feel like I did in my 30’s, I cannot imagine living in a 55+ community… waiting to go to assisted living, then the nursing home ☹️if I retired I’m concerned that I would start declining, I want to live like my much younger friends, I just take vacations when I want to go somewhere 🤷♀️
I'm like you, I'm 69 and in great shape, mentally healthy and good natured. Its hard to imagine living in a community where most folks are home all the time. Playing golf all day or drinking does not appeal to me.
Great comment, Kathy. I'm 64 and just started working from home virtually and love it. I work part-time as a clinical therapist and see my kids all the time. At least three of the five call me everyday. Too funny. I love being active, in shape, alive with activity and working. My husband loves retirement and enjoys puttering around our house repairing all manner of household problems. He worked hard for many years, and I love the switch of roles to now support him. We're at the center of our church and active in the community. I'm so very happy we decided to sidestep a move into a senior community.
I used to pet sit in an upscale 55+ community where 3 car garages were standard. Most of those garages were full of unopened boxes my clients brought with them when they downsized 2-3-4 years previously. (The community was 4 years old.) You don't need that stuff. Get rid of it.
Maybe just find a nice rec center or gym. If you get tired of it you can quit. I'm mostly happy when other people aren't telling me what I can or can't do 🙄
I can tell you right now, do not buy in the 55+ so called golf community of Sun City Festival in Buckeye AZ. Pulte the builder screwed us out of one golf course, while they continue to build more homes and now you struggle with their new tee time system to get decent tee times or any tee times for that matter. Big scam, be aware!
We’ve heard that from lots of people. Check out my other video about that area where I mention it. Pulte says not an issue but you know how that goes. Probably not the best area for golfers right now and we tell our clients that.
We live part time in a 55 plus community in So Cal desert. We bought the beginning of last year we like it but one complaint - not very diverse nor international. Coming from the diverse SF Bay Area, we are not used to being around so many older white folks (we are mixed couple). Also, the age factor is a thing - I somtimes sub teach to be around younger people (kids).
The typical retiree is home all day bored to death and desperate to get into something or create drama to occupy their time. Now multiply that by 100 and imagine the kind of environment you’ll be living in. No thanks.
I live in a 55+ community. It is in a mobile home park.There is no HOA fees. Only thing you pay for. Is the pool pass. Anyone can afford that. It only 5 dollars
I trust you're not writing that in jest? If serious, here is a rundown: HOA stands for _Home Owners Association._ What's the deal with HOAs becoming the ruling force for neighborhoods? Answer: City and county governments, when granting empty land for residential development, one of the terms in the agreement for the home builder to build houses is with establishing an HOA in that development. The reason being is that is takes residential code-enforcement off the backs of the municipality and places it in the hands of the developed community in the form of an HOA. Without HOAs, then issues of deteriorating property upkeep, trash on the property, abandoned vehicles in the streets, etc., would be burdens on the city and county with _code-enforcement,_ and that would be an added expense on the municipality to shoulder; which would result with a rise in local taxes, notably with raising the property taxes. Raising taxes is not a popular aspect to resolve community issues. As it is, HOAs to operate with code-enforcement do levy fees on the homeowners; being as low as tens-of-dollars, upwards to thousands, on an annual basis. Other monetary fees are gathered from homeowners can be in the form of: - Obtaining permits for major renovations on the property. - Collecting monetary penalties from homeowners that did not resolve aesthetic violations after repeated warnings to do corrective actions on the violation. - There are probably other ways HOAs can collect revenues which don't come to mind as of this writing. In the HOA community I live in, there is an elected board that meets quarterly to discuss and act on issues in the residential community. There's also "private hearings" with those property owner violators that are summoned to the HOA board to discuss why the property owner had not taken corrective action with the property's aesthetics; or had violated other CC & Rs [Covenants, Conditions & Restrictions], i.e. _rules of the community._ The _code-enforcement_ constable for the HOA is a hired 'property management' company that has an employee regularly patrolling the streets in the residential community looking for aesthetic code violations. The property management company is the entity that administers the code-enforcement policies; issues written warnings and violations to homeowners; and is the intermediary between the homeowners and the HOA elected board. There are other aspects about HOAs not covered in this narrative, but this does covers the basics. The temperaments of HOAs does varies, a major part of it is with the property management company when it comes to code-enforcement patrols: Some can be very lenient, while others can be extremely heavy-handed draconian. Likewise for the HOA elected boards, too.
I had friends who lived in 55+ communities, so I already knew it wasn’t for me. Instead, I moved to a small town just a few miles from a large college town. I’m so happy with my decision. Medical facilities and lots of activity diversity close by, and small town ambiance at churches and community center.
College areas can be great places to retire! Thanks for watching.
That’s what my husband and I are looking for. We’re generational Floridians and we’re getting out of this godforsaken place. It’s gone hell.
What has made Florida go to Hell ? Are you in Swfl or North Fl panhandle ? I am going to start looking for rural property in a small town .
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This was one of the most helpful TH-cam videos I have ever viewed. Thank you for discussing the tough stuff and giving me food for thought!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
This is a great video. I live in a 55+ community in Tucson. Ours is quiet and neighbors respectful. You can be active if you like, or less social if you choose. We have a reliable HOA and they do an amazing job. You hit on points everyone should consider. I especially agree that you have to choose to be happy, social and involved.
So glad you like your community! Getting involved is a key factor in integrating into the community and being happy. Thanks for watching!
You're right, people in Arizona, pretty much no matter where they're from, are very insulated from their neighbors and don't tend to welcome newcomers. Huge houses (like in your drone flyover shots), on large lots and block walls all add to the isolation. We moved from Phoenix 18 months ago to a small town in northern Califronia in a "regular" neighborhood. Now only did everyone pitch in and help us unload there was a block party within a month for us. We love where we live and would never turn back. So, yeah, what you leave behind, you leave behind.
I moved into a 55 and older community when I was 50. Best decision I could have ever made. You could experience any of the last 5 things listed living in a normal community. My adult children live less than 12 to 4 miles away and no, they don’t visit much. I am now 56 and I Love my beautiful home and my neighborhood!! I hope this helps
So glad you love it. Most people do! Thanks for you comment and thanks for watching!
50? Not 55? I was thinking I have to wait until I'm 55 to live in 55 community. I retired at 47 years old.
Everything you said is so true. Excellent advice.
It wasn’t a 55 and over community, but my brother lived in the same development as our father. The HOA president was a very combative person, and my brother was carefully putting word out in his community that maybe she should be replaced. She called our father to “let him know” what my brother was doing. My brother is an educated, successful grown man who lived in that neighborhood for 10 plus years without problems until this board president. She literally told on grown ass man to his parent, what a nut. My brother moved shortly after, it was enough.
". . . you used to be somebody . . ." Boy, does that hit home. I suppose that's true of most everyone in 55+ communities.
Good advice. One thing I would add is this: If something happens to your kids and you need your grandkids to move in with you - it will not be permitted in these communities. In particular is Sun City, which is a township / city on its own more than just a 55+ community. Sun City does not collect property tax that supports schools; therefore, having young kids will not be tolerated to be living long-term at your residence.
The LAST thing I want is someones kids moving in here. It was one of the main reasons we bought in here...
A lot of younger seniors never drink coffee or alcohol. 😊 Good video! 😊
I can understand the need of an HOA in a 55+ community, as retirees may have RVs, and for the RV owner to save money from rental space costs, would park their RV in front of their house. Imagine having 10 residents along a street with parked RVs. The HOA serves as a constable that prevents residential streets being cluttered with RVs and trailers.
Seems a lost opportunity. I've seen developments that have community docks and homenowners can rent a slip at a very reasonable price as part of the benefit of living there. Why don't we start building RV parking lots in these communities that do the same thing? If RV parking in front if a house is so offensive, why not create a solution instead of a dictatorship?
@@atinyweneebebe4903 Great comment.
@@atinyweneebebe4903 The developments you wrote about for community docks: One has to give credit to the altruistic temperament of the developers with generously providing the land for those RV slips.
I've been in the civil engineering field where such unselfishness was lacking, and have listened to real estate developers concerns when it came to utilizing land for residential development, to paraphrase their concerns:
_'How can I minimize the amount of empty space on the land to maximize the amount of homes that can be built on that property?'_
I recall in one housing development that called for the street width at 44 feet, the developer wanted the street width reduced to 31 feet. Why? In the limited property space for that development, narrower streets would allow for four additional rows of houses to be built. That would mean more dollars of profit to be made out of that [developer owned] property space.
The RV parking lots would take away land that would otherwise be used to build houses on. The fewer houses built on
land equates to fewer dollars in the developer's pockets.
People parking their own vehicles on their own property? Sounds like "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".
Sage advice, I had not thought about all of those things. Thank you for your thoughtfulness.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching!!
We live part time in a small 55 park in south Texas. You mentioned your toilet paper rule. I go by the washing sheets rule. When I’m washing sheets and remaking the bed for the same person/people, and doing their laundry .. their stay has run its course.
1st time I watched an objective assessment of 55+ community. Thank you!
Had to move’ changed management’ hostile to residents. Money-gouging. Happier in regular apartment complex. Cheaper and more amenities plus courtesy.
I lived in an over 55 community, and I loved it, I was renting, I work full time, so I didn't participate in the activities nor was I expected to. Neighbors were great, and in the year I lived there I only participated in one block party. No one pushed alcohol since I don't drink. It is up to the person if they want to get involved or not. I am wanting to find another community to go live at.
Great video, very practical, thanks 😅
We retired about a year and a half ago and live half time in Sun City Oro Valley and half time in Margaritaville Panama City Beach. Love them both!
Wow! Lucky you! We will soon have some Sun City Oro Valley videos up for you to watch. 🙂
Hi Shawn, Excellent, practical information. Especially about guests staying only long enough to use one roll of TP. I had to chuckle at that.
Glad it was helpful! Ha! My kids give me a hard time about the TP thing but its a subtle hint for sure.
I will be inheriting my parents condo in Vero Beach. I am grateful for the opportunity to live part of my year there plus the Northwoods of Wisconsin- best of both worlds.
How nice! It will definitely be a good place to spend the winters! Enjoy it!
I thought l decluttered before moving, reality is do it all early in the process, every shelf, every drawers, closet. Declutter every surface. Don't get emotional. Keep a distant in thoughts, about putting emotions on items or your boxes will be will you for the next move. Good call.
Every time I walk into our basement, I bring up a box to toss or give away.
I moved three times in 8 years and totally agree with declutterring. If you haven’t touched/looked at that item in a year, donate it or dump it, especially in that garage!
Love your helpful and sensible take on these points, much appreciated!
My pleasure! As always, thanks for watching!
I just turned 55 last month, and I forgot that I'm now eligible for these communities. I've always wanted to live in one when i got old enough. Seems like a great place to live amongst like-minded people of my own age! but thank you for bringing up things to consider. Especially the HOA! I used to work for an HOA, and sent letters, went to all the meetings, etc. I would be VERY careful about buying in an HOA community. If I did, I would attend the meetings.
I’ve not had any issues with the Arizona HOA’s. In a 55 Plus area they’re usually great. My clients haven’t reported any issues to me yet.
Most retirees are hiring though.
Thank you for sharing this very important information for those of us retired or getting ready to retire. I was thinking of a 55+ community as I am single and was thinking of living in a community where I can meet people BUT I am not a “living by my rule” person. I’m thinking about getting some property and having horses, goats, chickens etc. Having that kind of responsibility will keep me busy and I won’t have time for foolishness and my animals will love me for taking care of them.
Glad it was helpful!
What a worthwhile speaker! Every point was practical and well thought out. I have lived in these communities and I wish I had known some of these points. Thank you
My husband and I know for sure that we want to have a lot of land to work on and have animals like our grandparents did before us that made them strong well into they passed way
Many of the commenters seem to live in or are only focused on Arizona or Florida. Every state has 55+/60+ communities and they aren't all sprawled out single family, detached homes. Some are patio homes, townhouses, or apartments, and many are rental or may be coops. And I'm never living in Florida!
I can’t wait to live in Florida!!!!
Thank you for such an interesting video - I just retired two years ago at age 59 - I was from a western state, and had done my “homework” on the Arizona 55+ communities for about ten years in preparation of retiring there. I was about ready to pull the plug and move to Arizona until I visited the The Villages in Florida. WOW! There is nothing in Arizona that compares to The Villages for those, like myself, seeking a very busy and active retirement. You literally never need to leave “the bubble”, as all shopping, entertainment, recreation is all here and all golf-cart accessible. for $189 per month, you have access to free golf on over 50 courses, over 3000 social clubs, over 60 rec centers, miles of dedicated golf-cart only paths, world-class entertainment, concerts and shows, and outdoors musical entertainment at four (soon to be five) public squares every night of the year. I made the decision to buy a new home here last year, much cheaper than a resale would have been in Arizona. I’m very happy here. Had I retired to Arizona I would have enjoyed it, but I think it’s important to seriously compare the two locations before making your final decision. Arizona would have been more sedate, and I was looking for an extremely active lifestyle, where I have multiple events, classes, clubs to attend each and every day..
Stay tuned...we are heading to the Villages to shoot videos later this week. It looks like an amazing area. Glad you love it there!
We've been looking into moving to a CCRC (all levels of care from independent to skilled care) community and you've made some excellent points to consider. We've decided that we need to plan for our advanced years and not depend on someone else to care for us.
So good to do your research! Thanks for watching. 🙂
Completely avoid renting if possible. It will NEVER truly feel like YOUR home. And, all it takes is one busybody neighbor who is 'friends with the office', and you will wish you had a car to live in instead. The bullying tactics start and, because they stop short of doing anything that is technically illegal, they get away with it. The protections for renters you hear and read about seem to be 'just for show.'
One example: I had two outdoor five inch crosses on my lawn for over two years (we have separate buildings and units) and had them removed by the 'office' because my new neighbor (who lives in a completely different building) was 'offended' by them. It seems this tenant has more rights than I do. I contacted the local Human Rights Commission who sided with the other tenant/office, and I can find no law that addresses this matter clearly.
Since that time, it has been one petty thing after another.
Management is aware I am in poor health, but they clearly do not care. What they care about is their so-called friends.
There is an affordable housing crisis where I live in the mid-hudson valley in NYS, so moving is not an option at this time.
Again, do NOT sell your home when you retire to rent instead (thinking it will be easier), because it will never be 'your' home. It will also be rare if anything that needs to be repaired will be done (e.g., gutters are clogged, flooding is terrible and I feel like I live in a rainforest, complete with bugs, overgrown bushes and weeds, toxic trees and all. I gave away my outdoor furniture because it is impossible to sit outside without being eaten alive. As for inside, I purchased my own products to make sure nothing enters my apt that is not human. I also bought air purifiers and a dehumidifier)
P.s.
If you ask for anything to be fixed or try to fight back against the blatant favortism, things will likely only get worse for you.
I just started buying lottery tickets; I know it is a very longshot, buy it is the only hope I have of getting out of here and living in peace.
DO NOT RENT UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE!
EDIT: Just read other comments here and, even though it is a disgrace how these troublemakers behave, I feel vindicated. I bother no one and mind my own business, but they still keep coming for me.
Btw, I live at Brigham Senior Housing in Kingston, NY. I was not going to name them, but every word I put here is true. I WILL NOT live in fear of further retaliation and I WILL NOT protect their wrongdoings from being exposed.
I need this kind of video for moving into a condo for the first time. I although I researched a lot (I thought) but still I was fairly naive. I never imagined that our condo board would be SO PICKY or that they would use so many chemicals here.
Condos can be tricky but without that HOA board many would slip into disrepair. Sometimes though they can go to far. I've been there too!
From videos that I’ve seen, this is not for us.
I am very ready to downsize but my husband wants no part of retirement communities, condos or cluster homes because of negative experiences of friends. My advice for people who are thinking I’d downsizing is to move into a ranch in a development community.
You might watch some of my other videos. We have so many great Active Adult communities! Development communities have the same issues but just different people. Might be worth a visit to a state that you think you might like. You might be missing out!
Exercise extreme caution. We to have heard very negative experiences from friends too. We downsized into a ranch in our mid 50's ten years ago in a regular neighborhood in our same small town community and did not regret it after some meaningful research and exploration. Although there are advantages with HOA's, there can be a significant downside we learned the hard way owning a beach condo. In addition, it's hard to make friends. It takes years to make lasting deep relationships. Staying put was the right decision for us. The missing out part is too often an illusion, followed by despair and isolation if you're not extremely extroverted.
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Good video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I have lived in a lot of places in my 60 years, 20 with the Army! My wife and I brought a rural house, we both wanted to live away from people! I am an old country boy, so I use to it n prefer! My wife is an old city girl and now loves living in an isolated rural location!!!! Furthermore, rural areas are a lot cheaper to buy than the metro areas!!!!!
I’ll take advice for downsizing , next steps
I found this video very thought provoking and useful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
A friend living in a 55 community lost her daughter and SIL in an accident. She needed to care for her grandchildren but was not allowed to bring them permanently to her home. She had to sell at a loss and leave. The children were teenagers.
I drove myself to and from chemo for almost six months.
Good points, advice - for any age, living in whatever community. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I bought a mobile home in a privately owned 55+ park in Southern California 2 years ago before retiring. There are over 300 units. The managers are strict but fair. I don’t mind and follow the rules and regulations. Our little corner everyone is respectful and kind, no one is intrusive. I really enjoy the peace and quiet where I live and take care of my mother. I am single and childless therefore I don’t worry about family and visitors.
Great Video!! A lot of information that some people do not think about.
Glad you think so! I wanted to help people before they moved instead of having regrets like some people have mentioned to me. Thanks for watching!
I hate HOAs ..Iv had it.
Good points
A new lithium golf carts costs around $16,000. Required insurance about $375 per year. Trail fees vary as whether you play golf or have one for just for socializing
Excellent tips - definitely makes me think.
Glad it was helpful!
It is a great video, but I wish there was no background music, it is quite loud and distracting.
Good points!
Glad you think so! Happy New Year Richard!
@@Southwest55Plus Happy New Year to you as well!
I am considering moving from a 4,000 sq ft to a 2,000 sq ft home in a gated 55+ community. I worry about how I will like the smaller living space and living in closer proximity to other people and also nosy neighbors.
I feel it. It's hard to look around you (clothes,furniture,etc) and decide on what to let go. Would I participate in the social activities in the 55+ community, if I don't already regularly go to the city senior center.
You might be pleasantly surprised! Most neighbors aren’t nosy. They’re nice people who want to be in a fun community just like you do. Downsizing is great once you realize that stuff no longer matters like it did when we were young. Call me if you’re coming to AZ and I’ll tell you the story of how I did it myself. Couldn’t be happier!
Wow
I can’t believe people say they’re downsizing to 2000 ft.² house. My house is 1500 ft.² and it’s the largest house I’ve ever lived in and I’m starting to think it’s too big. Of course, I’m kind of a minimalist and people say it looks like no one lives here or it looks like I’m moving because I really don’t have much stuff but yeah I can’t imagine living in a 2000 or 3000 square-foot house, all my rooms would be empty.
@@LynsAlteredArts
Yeah !
Thank you for that comment !
I’m the one who said “ wow “ one comment above !
Lol !
After my divorce I was ready to go
into a sailboat or a tiny house !
We rented before we bought a unit in our condominium community. Renting gives people the chance to try it out. Im a snowbird, still here in Arizona due to an accident. I love being here. I would choose this type of living arrangement Year round if I could.
So glad you enjoy Arizona! Renting can be a great option while you see if you like a city or neighborhood. Thanks for watching my channel!
My next move will be to a condo in a walkable area. Moving to a house would guarantee the need to move again when my partner dies.
My husband pushed a move to an over 55 in Ga.. I hate the state. And town and miss my friends and family, especially my son in Ct.. so much. The house is huge.
I am so unhappy. Also, I have health issues and don’t like the medical here.
The biggest problems are the size of the house and where it is -too far away from my home.
So sorry you’re in that situation! I will say thT it takes a while to really get into the swing of things in a new place. Moving can be hard. Hope things improve for you soon. 🤗
Thank you for posting this helpful video
My pleasure! Thanks so much for watching!
Great Advice.. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!!
I DON'T live in a 55+ and my children live only 8-10 mins away, but I had no one to drive me back and forth to Chemo because they HAVE to work. My husband owned a business and gone a lot, so I had to drive myself. Thank goodness I was able to, that's all I can say.... I am a very low keyed person, so I don't think I would like a club house based community, but that's just me... I LOVE my freedom and access to everything in the suburbs and will stay here as long as possible...
Which development 16 minutes with all the pools and golf course in the background? Great information
You're right...happiness is a choice. We love our small 55+ HOA and have been lucky enough to become part of a community that enjoys getting together. We may not share political views, life experiences, etc., but we're all mature enough to accept our differences and rise above them. Our biggest peeve is people who feel rules don't apply to them. If you insist on feeling that you're too 'special' for rules, don't buy in an HOA. Those rules might be very important to your neighbors. And we put visitors up in a nearby hotel instead of dedicating a room for guests...that's my arts & crafts room now! And a smaller yard leaves us a lot more time to indulge in fun stuff instead of maintenance.
My cousin lives in one in Bullhead City. She loves it. It's mostly trailers though,
Really great info and suggestions!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching my channel!!
Thank you so much! Planning to buy or rent in Sun City West this fall. Trying to figure out how to live in a smaller home. Your advice was timely and great. Thanks again.
It’s a great area! Be sure to reach out to me so we can help you find the perfect place! Thanks for watching!!
I’m a 62 yr old recent retiree from the NE and I’m thinking about doing a reverse snowbird lifestyle, I.e, stay in the SW during the not-too-hot months, and then head back up to the NE for June-Oct. but, I have no idea about living in the SW (I lived in Manhattan for almost 40 yrs and now live on the shore in CT). I’m planning on doing some recon soon, and would like to hire an disinterested consultant to maximize the efficiency of those trips. Not sure if this presenter fits that bill, but I’ll reach and find out.
We are here when you’re ready to visit. Give me a call and we can chat about your wants and needs! Thanks for watching.
Mother in law lives in one and loves every minute of it
Good work THANXS
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!!
Wow. When I retire to Arizona, I’ll make sure that I’ll tell my realtor that I don’t drink. I didn’t think about that. 😳🙂
I’d say that over half of my clients are not drinkers. Most of the other half are responsible. Like anything there are just a few who never grew up. You can still find community and social interaction without alcohol. I do! Thanks for watching. 🙂
#10 - all the residents are fossils. I’m 68 and I can’t imagine living with all old grumpy folks. Give me a mix with mostly younger people.
You might want to check out a 55+ community where new homes are being built. Typically that is where my younger clients like to explore. Thanks for watching!
Very interesting points. We moved to a small development in Suffolk an hour away from Essex. Thought the grandchildren would come up more often so did get bedrooms for all. My parents retired 4 hours away. I wish I’d have realised they would only come up 4/5 a year I would have moved another hour away. However friends have come but what we didn’t give any thought to was that we moved in our middle 70s and those friends, even though they were always outgoing, energetic people don’t want to drive/travel at their age.
Here in England all new developments have to have Management companies, which I’m guessing is roughly the same thing as your HOAs. If it’s a small development you can manage it yourself. If it’s big you get someone else to do it. This is a very new thing and not all people know this. I always said I didn’t want to retire to a flat with maintenance charges because of the unknown expenses and I’m cross with myself for having done it with the new house. However, all is wonderful in our new home and we are making new friends all the time, in this village and a few others as well.
Thanks for your comments! Very interesting to hear how things are similar and different from the UK. Thanks for watching my channel!
I am living in a retirement complex, and am very happy here. We have a managing company and they aren’t the best, but they could be much, much worse. I am secure. I can lock my home and go away for long holidays. We have a building firm that looks after all the bits that need seeing to. I have a group of friends and we meet in the communal lounge twice a week, go out for meals off and on and have group activities - scrabble, doing jigsaw puzzles, exercise sessions, etc. I think I might have been a recluse eventually if I had lived elsewhere. No danger of that happening where I am. I am humbly grateful.
Good video, good advice
Glad you enjoyed it!
People often go to places like the Villages and then want to leave. Folks should watch videos like this one and maybe drive around the locations for a "look see." I think though that most of these places like Villages are really an extension of high school. You play sports, eat out and hang with friends and clicks develop. If you are unconventional and not as interested in a tee time at the golf course and getting a brewski with the gang, these places may not be for you. There is an obvious conforming undertone to it all.
We always recommend a visit to preview each area. Just curious as to whether or not you’ve lived in an active adult community. You seem to have had a bad experience. Thanks for watching!
Well said. It's fine for individuals who want to extend the sophomoric party life into their senior years, and I agree, that there is probably pressure to follow the herd once there. I do love these videos, as they do provide additional reasons why I avoid the 55+ communities. It's a very individual decision and ought to be considered carefully.
If I retire to Green Valley is it better to get a home with $350 HOA fee that covers roof, exterior, landscaping and roads or is it better to get the $50 HOA that just covers road and common area? Your opinions appreciated!
Great question! It depends on your individual situation. The higher HOA works well for people who don’t have large cash reserves for big things like roofs. The small fee is good for people with cash reserves. It’s also fine when a home has had recent update of big systems. Lots of variables so before you start looking be sure to reach out to me and I’ll help you make the best strategy. I really appreciate you watching my channel!
Excellent excellent excellent true presentation. Every single thing you said, of course leaving out the fact that you will miss a variety of ages. We’ve been age segregated all our lives from kindergarten right through this retirement process. I have been retired for 20 years and gone through everything you said.
… you said it well.
Thanks so much for your kind words! Glad to have feedback from someone who has first hand experience! Appreciate you watching my channel. 🙂
How about renting to see if I like the area . I have never been to Arizona . The only thing I would look forward too is the daily walk . TH-cam is one of my hobbies . Enjoyed all of your info , but can I test the water before I jump in . Plus real estate has gone up to ab-normal high the last 2 years . Thanks .
Lots of places to rent. Let us know how we can help!
Does the HOA do the weeding,? Weeds grow in all that gravel and it looks very neglected.
Individual owners handle their yard maintenance. We do have a growth spurt of weeds every year in the spring so I bet that’s when we shot that clip. It only last a week or two and then the weeds are eradicated. Simple task. Thanks for watching my channel!
Great tips! Thank you!
the golf courses look lovely.......the neighborhoods however, like penitentiaries.......no thank you.......downsizing to us would be having a HUGE yard sale and closing down the 2nd floor of our farmhouse. Can't imagine spending our senior years with strangers when we have such wonderful family and friends nearby......not to mention our dogs, cats and horses. Definitely not for us.
Great comment. There was no mention of the struggle to make friends in a general context. We're with you and so pleased that we decided to stay put near kids, friends, community not to mention pets and the general mess of life. Some seem to love it, but it's just not for everyone.
I feel safe in my 55 + mobile home park, not worried about getting mugged or robbed when I walk just as the sun is coming up. I like it here. Everyone is friendly and nice. I join what I like which is just a couple of things....no pressure. Contrary to the negative comments, this is a great way to spend your senior years....I also pay lot rent, NOT an HOA.
I'm so glad I've found you! Your infor. on what all to consider before moving/ choosing 55+ living are great! I wish you also worked in the southen Utah area!!🤞
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We will be adding Southern Utah at some point
Do you know how soon you'll be researching S. Utah (Washington Co./St. George)?
Don’t move there, is similar to a kindergarten nightmare…..gossip, busy body, etc
Not necessarily. I hear what you're saying but gossips and busy bodies are in ALL communities!
@@Southwest55Plus I am agree with you,
Aweeeww. I know exactly what u mean
Sorry, in my opinion 55+ communities are are garbage.The houses are too close together and God forbid you run afoul of the militant HOA.You could get lucky and have some great neighbors but its an expensive crap shoot. When i retired my wife and I left a community, not 55+ and no HOA and moves to the south to a beautiful place on 2+ acres, peaceful, beautiful and i'm not paying for a clubhouse or a pickleball court that I have no desire to utilize.
The hoa is necessary but too many are mismanaged.
Great: a Pre-Death Community in a state running out of water. What could possibly go wrong?
What are the price ranges for modest houses in these type of communities in Arizona?
Depends on what you're looking for but you can find some nice homes in some areas starting at 250ish. Message me for specifics. Thanks for watching!
Discovered your video and have friends whom do not not drink. Wondering what 55+ communities would be better for them ?
All communities are fine for non-drinkers. Same thing as a non-55 plus neighborhood. Lots of people who drink and many who do not. I drink very little and do just fine in all of them. Times have changed and being a teetotaler is more and more common. Some people get irritated at the higher alcohol consumption in these communities so it is good to be aware and gravitate towards other activities where there are more sober people. Thanks for watching!
excellent
Many many thanks!
Never would I ever move to one of these ridiculous types of communities. Houses way to close together for me.
I have never lived in a 55+ community. What is resale like? I have always had a 3 bd 2 bath, it’s just me so off and on I rent yo a traveling nurse, is this acceptable?
You can find rentals in most communities. Some places have restrictions so be sure to check when choosing a location. Rents in many are much higher in winter but as a travel nurse your housing allowance is adjusted for that. Renting is a great way to check out the active adult lifestyle and see if you enjoy it. Thanks for watching!
How would you know if there are a lot of party people that drink alot in a potential 55+ community?
Last year I visited a good friend that lives in an HOA. We were talking in his driveway when his phone rang. It was some busybody neighbor wanting to know who he was talking to. Personally, I would have cut loose with a barrage of verbiage the likes she's never heard before. Of course my friend is a better man than I, so he was diplomatic. 🙄
Wow! That is crazy! I've lived in lots of HOA's over the years and I've never heard anything that bad. But I can tell you a much worse story in my non-HOA neighborhood about nosiness. I think we just live in a sad state of affairs these days.
@@Southwest55Plus In a non-HOA neighborhood, neighbors within 1 or 2 houses from yours are the major concern. In an HOA some busybody 9 blocks away can whine and complain about your tumbleweed in your yard. And of course instead of telling the busybody to "get lost", they'll cite you and foreclose on your house. HOAs just bring out the worst in people.
Any advice on an older community , over 55, that has been bought, and future lot rent for new owners have more than doubled. Our concern is how do we protect our home equity when we're being held hostage. Our homes typically sell within 30 days, now future owners are walking away from the over $900 lot rent.
Any help would be appreciated.
So sorry this is happening to you! Unfortunately this is common and the high lot rents will reduce your home equity as the monthly cost climbs. If you can sell then find an option where you own the ground. I wish I could be more helpful but the community owner is king and they are there to profit.
Oh my goodness, to each their own but I’m going to be 66 in a few weeks, still working 30 hours per week as a nurse ( only cut back to meet the criteria for drawing my company funded pension) people outside of my work place are constantly asking when I’m going to retire, my health is excellent, my mind is sharp, I have no ache’s or pains anywhere and pretty much still feel like I did in my 30’s, I cannot imagine living in a 55+ community… waiting to go to assisted living, then the nursing home ☹️if I retired I’m concerned that I would start declining, I want to live like my much younger friends, I just take vacations when I want to go somewhere 🤷♀️
I'm like you, I'm 69 and in great shape, mentally healthy and good natured. Its hard to imagine living in a community where most folks are home all the time. Playing golf all day or drinking does not appeal to me.
I’m 70 and I totally agree.
Great comment, Kathy. I'm 64 and just started working from home virtually and love it. I work part-time as a clinical therapist and see my kids all the time. At least three of the five call me everyday. Too funny. I love being active, in shape, alive with activity and working. My husband loves retirement and enjoys puttering around our house repairing all manner of household problems. He worked hard for many years, and I love the switch of roles to now support him. We're at the center of our church and active in the community. I'm so very happy we decided to sidestep a move into a senior community.
I am sure Arizona is a wonderful place to retire but I prefer areas that are more green. Texas, Florida or the Carolinas are more my vibe.
Stay tuned! We will be visiting those areas starting next month! Thanks for watching 🙂
I used to pet sit in an upscale 55+ community where 3 car garages were standard. Most of those garages were full of unopened boxes my clients brought with them when they downsized 2-3-4 years previously. (The community was 4 years old.) You don't need that stuff. Get rid of it.
It is amazing how much "stuff" people accumulate over the years, isn't it? Thanks for watching my channel!!
300 a month at parkway villas in Las Vegas.....3 HOAs and it's a FN landscape nightmare. A plumbing break ...$15 in parts 20 min. $950
Wow! Sounds like you need to explore other options. Thanks for watching!
Maybe just find a nice rec center or gym. If you get tired of it you can quit. I'm mostly happy when other people aren't telling me what I can or can't do 🙄
I can tell you right now, do not buy in the 55+ so called golf community of Sun City Festival in Buckeye AZ. Pulte the builder screwed us out of one golf course, while they continue to build more homes and now you struggle with their new tee time system to get decent tee times or any tee times for that matter. Big scam, be aware!
We’ve heard that from lots of people. Check out my other video about that area where I mention it. Pulte says not an issue but you know how that goes. Probably not the best area for golfers right now and we tell our clients that.
Those bastards
I've made the mistake of moving into a 55 plus community and to this day the people in it is quiet over bareing
We live part time in a 55 plus community in So Cal desert. We bought the beginning of last year we like it but one complaint - not very diverse nor international. Coming from the diverse SF Bay Area, we are not used to being around so many older white folks (we are mixed couple). Also, the age factor is a thing - I somtimes sub teach to be around younger people (kids).
Some of your points make you stop and think
Thanks! Appreciate you watching!
The typical retiree is home all day bored to death and desperate to get into something or create drama to occupy their time. Now multiply that by 100 and imagine the kind of environment you’ll be living in. No thanks.
you are misinformed about the average retiree. Spend some time with them and you will see. 😊
I live in a 55+ community. It is in a mobile home park.There is no HOA fees. Only thing you pay for. Is the pool pass. Anyone can afford that. It only 5 dollars
Where?
What is an HOA!!!??? What does it stand for?
I trust you're not writing that in jest? If serious, here is a rundown:
HOA stands for _Home Owners Association._
What's the deal with HOAs becoming the ruling force for neighborhoods? Answer: City and county governments, when granting empty land for residential development, one of the terms in the agreement for the home builder to build houses is with establishing an HOA in that development. The reason being is that is takes residential code-enforcement off the backs of the municipality and places it in the hands of the developed community in the form of an HOA.
Without HOAs, then issues of deteriorating property upkeep, trash on the property, abandoned vehicles in the streets, etc., would be burdens on the city and county with _code-enforcement,_ and that would be an added expense on the municipality to shoulder; which would result with a rise in local taxes, notably with raising the property taxes. Raising taxes is not a popular aspect to resolve community issues.
As it is, HOAs to operate with code-enforcement do levy fees on the homeowners; being as low as tens-of-dollars, upwards to thousands, on an annual basis. Other monetary fees are gathered from homeowners can be in the form of:
- Obtaining permits for major renovations on the property.
- Collecting monetary penalties from homeowners that did not resolve aesthetic violations after repeated warnings to do corrective actions on the violation.
- There are probably other ways HOAs can collect revenues which don't come to mind as of this writing.
In the HOA community I live in, there is an elected board that meets quarterly to discuss and act on issues in the residential community. There's also "private hearings" with those property owner violators that are summoned to the HOA board to discuss why the property owner had not taken corrective action with the property's aesthetics; or had violated other CC & Rs [Covenants, Conditions & Restrictions], i.e. _rules of the community._
The _code-enforcement_ constable for the HOA is a hired 'property management' company that has an employee regularly patrolling the streets in the residential community looking for aesthetic code violations.
The property management company is the entity that administers the code-enforcement policies; issues written warnings and violations to homeowners; and is the intermediary between the homeowners and the HOA elected board.
There are other aspects about HOAs not covered in this narrative, but this does covers the basics.
The temperaments of HOAs does varies, a major part of it is with the property management company when it comes to code-enforcement patrols: Some can be very lenient, while others can be extremely heavy-handed draconian. Likewise for the HOA elected boards, too.