It's true that this doesn't really sound anything like Phil Spector's Wall of Sound. I think the point is just that it's a much "busier" production, with far more instruments and voices going on than the more stripped down version Lindsey produced for Say You Will. This has more of a lush, 1970s FM sound to it-which is no doubt why so many people like it so much.
it’s not Fleetwood Mac, it’s an outtake from Stevie’s 2001 solo album Trouble in Shangri-la. Mick and Lindsey are on it though. Fleetwood Mac recorded their own version for Say You Will, but I think this version is way superior.
It got a lot of playtime on the kind of bullshit XM radio you always hear at the grocery store. I drove a forklift at Lowe's third shift when it came out and I listened to it constantly because they left the radio playing all night after they locked the stock goblins in 😂
This. Why wasn't this a promoted single for that album? It's up there with Dreams/Silver Springs for Stevie's best, though I prefer the quiet, unsettled tension of the Say You Will version
Interesting that one whole verse is missing from this version. So the 2nd verse that is in it on the SYW version was added several years later. It's so painfully obvious that this song is referring not to their past relationship, but to a newer (at the time) rekindled relationship.
There's a story I read that Lindsey met his future wife during the time this song was out & Stevie was slighted quite badly cause she thought Lindsey have 'fallen head over heels' back in love with her...
thanks i love this version more than the album version, where did you get the full quality version? this is probably the best sounding upload of it so thank you :) i especially love the ending vocals on this and the guitars
He fell for her again, she watched it happen Every day, day by day But more important, night by night She watched it all come into play He held her hands, she listened to what he had to say Thrown down, like a barricade Maybe now he could prove to her That he could be good for her And they should be together You've shaken your faith in me, no You've shaken my faith in everything else A decision no one makes, and now you're going home Faith is a hard thing to hold on to Something inside you says I don't have to You're not like other people, you do what you want to You're not like other people, you do what you want to Thrown down, like a barricade Maybe now he could prove to her That he could be good for her And they should be together You say you're sorry Now you should walk away But it's so overwhelming, You have nothing left to say You can sit outside his door and wait Well, you can dedicate your pain to him Oh, thrown down, like a barricade Maybe now he could prove to her That he could be good for her And they should be together About just how much he never really told her Thrown down, About how difficult it had been to be without her Thrown down
LADY Voce velata di sensualità, regina indiscussa del rock più sfumato, di crepuscolari malinconie... Cos’hai di speciale io non lo so dire, ma d’aura fatata vai ammantata Angelo d’oro velato di nero, dea d’una notte al chiaro di luna... A Stevie Nicks 20.1.22 Marina Assanti
One … & one… but not to be sadly … not. Meant to be. But the lyrical & musical GENUIS was so perfect in those early days!, don’t see that.anymore…❤❤❤love Stevie.
I like Stevie taking the higher parts on the chorus in this version. I think there's enough of a difference to tell that her vocals were re-recorded for the one that landed on SYW...or, maybe not all, but at least a lot of them. This song, no matter which version, is one of her best! "He fell for her again, she watched it happen. Every day, day by day...but, more important, NIGHT BY NIGHT". Now, go pull up all the interviews from when the band was reuniting for The Dance, prior to the filming, and pull up performances from different stops on that tour... Tell me you don't FEEL these lyrics!!
Yes, the line, "...He held her hands, she listened to what he had to say..." took place in 1997, when the two were alone in a hotel dining room, around 10pm, talking about their time from The 1960s up to The 1980s, when everything fell apart. He apparently apologized for his behavior, going all the way back to 1976...she forgave him, and she wondered, for a moment, could they really be soul mates, and did it take 20 years for them to realize it...or, was it just nostalgia, reunion, and closure all happening at the same time? Stevie believed the latter, so she made certain that nothing further happened. I remember, at the time, someone in the media asked her if the old flame of their romance could be rekindled in this new Fleetwood Mac renaissance...and, Stevie abruptly declared, "Not if I can help it..." Barricades.
@@anthonyyoutubefan7567 More like Lindsey went and got his girlfriend pregnant, definitively ending any hopes Stevie may have had that their romantic relationship was revivable.
@@TexasHoldEmGurl And, from what I understand, Stevie was happy that Lindsey found someone to be his Wife, and have a child with. She said that it brought out a side of him that had never existed before.
@@anthonyyoutubefan7567 Right, my point was that I doubt Stevie was the one who made the choice to call it quits for good in 1997. More like Lindsey was playing on two horses. I don't for one second doubt Stevie became very happy for him with time but that doesn't mean it wasn't a blow to her when it happened.
This is the Trouble In Shangri-la version of the song, originally inc. on the full-length version of the album, before she had to cut songs due to copyright royalties and album length. As much as I love the Say You Will version, I wish this had been the first single from Stevie's solo album...it would have been a Top 10 radio hit, and might have garnered her a first Grammy win as an individual recording artist. I believe the song features Lindsey, Mick, and John.
@@focusedfreebird But, even in this original version, Lori and Sharon are on it, doing the background voices. The problem was, she had recorded like 16 songs for the album, and, at the time, the rule was that CDs and LPs could only have copyrights for 12 songs (going back to the original 45 to 47 minute running time for vinyl records), so, Stevie was forced to cut 3 songs off of the album, with this being one of them. She said it hurt her to remove the songs, since they fit the theme of the album. Oddly enough, it seems, by like 2005, that rule was taken away from album releases.
So many people in couples are NOT good for each other because that isn't why they got together in the first place (guilty your Honor), whereas the irony involved here is, bands DO think about that, and this band still imploded. And I say that without knowing any of the inside details, of course, but I still find it sad for all involved.
I love the harmonies but they made the right call on Say You Will -- the most impressive part of this song was its arrangement, that sense of disquiet, that unspoken tension. This sounds really busy, which is shame because it's one of the better songs she wrote since 2000.
The Say You Will version is far better. I can't believe Mick, Lindsey and John are playing on this version -- such a lousy song arrangement. It doesn't take much to understand why the song was scrapped. It took Lindsey to take the song to a totally different place.
The more produced version of the demo is the real gem. Both this version and the final that made the cut on Say You Well are overproduced hot messes. Neither have the right tempo or serve the lyrical intent of the song. It's not a rocker like what is attempted here or a bopping pop song on SYW. It's introspective and should be more along the lines of Dreams or Michael Jackson's "Billy Jean". The word "Thrown" in the chorus is missing is growl, not the mention Lindsay is singing the melody here and Stevie the harmony on her own song. No!
To bad Stevie sounds like daffy duck here. I have this on a cd somewhere that I pulled down from the internets its a greater mix of this song for sure.
So apparently Stevie wrote this after seeing Lindsey (as she believed) falling for her again during The Dance filming and tour. Clearly her ego loved that, as she wrote this rather smug song. And right afterwards he got married and raised the family he had always wanted, with someone whose world did not revolve around herself. How salty are you feeling now, Stevie?
@@karenwalkersginglass Ad hominem, much? I suppose it doesn't surprise me that a Stevie acolyte would attempt to defend her by personally attacking anyone who made any criticism-without answering the criticism itself in the slightest. Your opinion of me is quite irrelevant.
Lindsey's 'girlfriend' got pregnant so he married her, his song, reflecting how she wanted to be in his 'house on the hill' and now, Lindsey's wife is divorcing him, grab that pen and paper and pick up that guitar Stevie, you know Lindsey may return to you... after all. copyrighted, freedom of speech & press USA
I’m sorry but this version is so weak compared to the f.m version. Vocals and production don’t do anything for me. Not surprised it got cut from final TISL album.
Joseph Escobedo I think it’s more the production on the vocals that give it an odd feel. I do really appreciate the changes on the guitars especially but it just doesn’t do it for me like the F.M version too
Just a year ago Stevie has $200million dollars and now $120million. They say she has a spending problem, well her and Tori Spelling. At least Stevie doesn't have an earning problem. But yea ahe burnt through tons of money and has less then other female artist like herself. Imagine if Stevie had learned to not spend all her money like she is still doing. Stevie could have been rich like Madonna if she would have controlled her spending addiction. That's why she has to tour all the time because she is a chronic spending addict.
Well, Stevie is in her 70's let her shop, she earned the $cash$ if it makes her happy, let her be happy, love comes and go, a good meal, a good time, w/friends, are good memories, nice clothes, Stevie adorns them.
No one compares with Stevie Nicks. She’s one of a kind. San Francisco beauty.❤
Arizona Bred Beauty🤓😎🏜
@@yellowjacket181 British trained
@@jamescoe4765 south west AZ wild heart
The shift in their harmonies are always so beautiful and amazing. Gads these 2 just belong together somehow!
The tears I cry whenever i hear this song......Her pain just comes through, knowing that this is the finality of it all. ?cries 😢😢😢
So sad...so beautiful...there's nothing left to say!Gorgeous!
I really love Lindsey's Guitar 🎸 Playing In This Version Of This Song 🎵
It's true that this doesn't really sound anything like Phil Spector's Wall of Sound. I think the point is just that it's a much "busier" production, with far more instruments and voices going on than the more stripped down version Lindsey produced for Say You Will. This has more of a lush, 1970s FM sound to it-which is no doubt why so many people like it so much.
This version sounds more like sex than the album version.
This is 100% the best song I've never heard from Fleetwood! Thanks for sharing.....wow.....this is amazing!
it’s not Fleetwood Mac, it’s an outtake from Stevie’s 2001 solo album Trouble in Shangri-la. Mick and Lindsey are on it though. Fleetwood Mac recorded their own version for Say You Will, but I think this version is way superior.
@@johnc7833so it kind of is Fleetwood Mac 🤷🏻♂️
@@Andy74656kind of, lol. It’s a cousin 😂
@@johnc7833 you mean like there's no official and high quality version of it? 🥲
@AnaLauraBonzanini the official, high-quality version is on Say You Will and it's pretty great.
LOVE,This version❤❤❤❤❤
No one compares with Stevie Nicks!
I listen to this song on my long ride home from work at night, smoking the finest of weed.
Kathy Weldon same
Fighting the good fight
Kathy Weldon mood
I respect that. ✌🏼
Thats a whole mood
One of my favorite FM songs. I'm surprised it didn't get more play time.
It got a lot of playtime on the kind of bullshit XM radio you always hear at the grocery store. I drove a forklift at Lowe's third shift when it came out and I listened to it constantly because they left the radio playing all night after they locked the stock goblins in 😂
This. Why wasn't this a promoted single for that album? It's up there with Dreams/Silver Springs for Stevie's best, though I prefer the quiet, unsettled tension of the Say You Will version
Wonderful. A big hug from Rio de Janeiro.
Such an underrated song.
Wow. Where has this recording been? Love this version.
I love this version too!!
omg....an alternate version of one of my favorite Mac songs?! Where did this originate? Clearly legit.
Love you Stevie @ the rest of Fleetwood. I wish y'all would get back together. Love y'all.
More than just a triple threat Stevie the Supernova.
Interesting that one whole verse is missing from this version. So the 2nd verse that is in it on the SYW version was added several years later.
It's so painfully obvious that this song is referring not to their past relationship, but to a newer (at the time) rekindled relationship.
There's a story I read that Lindsey met his future wife during the time this song was out & Stevie was slighted quite badly cause she thought Lindsey have 'fallen head over heels' back in love with her...
Is this a demo? Because it is very different from the "Say You Will" version
Happy Birthday, Stevie
thanks i love this version more than the album version, where did you get the full quality version? this is probably the best sounding upload of it so thank you :) i especially love the ending vocals on this and the guitars
Can never get too much Stevie Nicks. She’s just divine!
@@lizcoello1095 ABSOLUTELY DAMN RIGHT!!!💯
This versión is more power. Withchorus batery and time.
BEAUTIFUL ❤️ STEVIE AND
BEAUTIFUL ❤️💕 SONG
I agree, love this version.
I'll never stop loving you my queen take me with you I'm good for you
He fell for her again, she watched it happen
Every day, day by day
But more important, night by night
She watched it all come into play
He held her hands, she listened to what he had to say
Thrown down, like a barricade
Maybe now he could prove to her
That he could be good for her
And they should be together
You've shaken your faith in me, no
You've shaken my faith in everything else
A decision no one makes, and now you're going home
Faith is a hard thing to hold on to
Something inside you says I don't have to
You're not like other people, you do what you want to
You're not like other people, you do what you want to
Thrown down, like a barricade
Maybe now he could prove to her
That he could be good for her
And they should be together
You say you're sorry
Now you should walk away
But it's so overwhelming,
You have nothing left to say
You can sit outside his door and wait
Well, you can dedicate your pain to him
Oh, thrown down, like a barricade
Maybe now he could prove to her
That he could be good for her
And they should be together
About just how much he never really told her
Thrown down,
About how difficult it had been to be without her
Thrown down
Does anyone know the story about how Stevie wrote this song, then Lindsey met his future wife?
@@1besieged It’s the story of The Dance tour. Listen carefully.
@@judithcontreras1940 I shall, thank you ! :)
It's a good song but I love the Shangra La on CD it is amazing so is song #8! Ha I had to edit this , I am addicted to this song now too, love this.
LADY
Voce velata
di sensualità,
regina indiscussa
del rock più sfumato,
di crepuscolari
malinconie...
Cos’hai di speciale
io non lo so dire,
ma d’aura fatata
vai ammantata
Angelo d’oro
velato di nero,
dea d’una notte
al chiaro di luna...
A Stevie Nicks
20.1.22
Marina Assanti
The bass is so beautiful
THIS !!!
One … & one… but not to be sadly … not. Meant to be. But the lyrical & musical GENUIS was so perfect in those early days!, don’t see that.anymore…❤❤❤love Stevie.
I like Stevie taking the higher parts on the chorus in this version. I think there's enough of a difference to tell that her vocals were re-recorded for the one that landed on SYW...or, maybe not all, but at least a lot of them. This song, no matter which version, is one of her best!
"He fell for her again, she watched it happen. Every day, day by day...but, more important, NIGHT BY NIGHT". Now, go pull up all the interviews from when the band was reuniting for The Dance, prior to the filming, and pull up performances from different stops on that tour... Tell me you don't FEEL these lyrics!!
Yes, the line, "...He held her hands, she listened to what he had to say..." took place in 1997, when the two were alone in a hotel dining room, around 10pm, talking about their time from The 1960s up to The 1980s, when everything fell apart. He apparently apologized for his behavior, going all the way back to 1976...she forgave him, and she wondered, for a moment, could they really be soul mates, and did it take 20 years for them to realize it...or, was it just nostalgia, reunion, and closure all happening at the same time? Stevie believed the latter, so she made certain that nothing further happened. I remember, at the time, someone in the media asked her if the old flame of their romance could be rekindled in this new Fleetwood Mac renaissance...and, Stevie abruptly declared, "Not if I can help it..." Barricades.
@@anthonyyoutubefan7567 More like Lindsey went and got his girlfriend pregnant, definitively ending any hopes Stevie may have had that their romantic relationship was revivable.
@@TexasHoldEmGurl And, from what I understand, Stevie was happy that Lindsey found someone to be his Wife, and have a child with. She said that it brought out a side of him that had never existed before.
@@anthonyyoutubefan7567 Right, my point was that I doubt Stevie was the one who made the choice to call it quits for good in 1997. More like Lindsey was playing on two horses. I don't for one second doubt Stevie became very happy for him with time but that doesn't mean it wasn't a blow to her when it happened.
@@TexasHoldEmGurl Yeah, it was probably a blow to her, but Stevie was done with Lindsey back in 1976.
This is the Trouble In Shangri-la version of the song, originally inc. on the full-length version of the album, before she had to cut songs due to copyright royalties and album length. As much as I love the Say You Will version, I wish this had been the first single from Stevie's solo album...it would have been a Top 10 radio hit, and might have garnered her a first Grammy win as an individual recording artist. I believe the song features Lindsey, Mick, and John.
Usually she has the girl background singers on her solo songs...so maybe it wasn't a good fit for her solo album with Lindsey on it.
@@focusedfreebird But, even in this original version, Lori and Sharon are on it, doing the background voices. The problem was, she had recorded like 16 songs for the album, and, at the time, the rule was that CDs and LPs could only have copyrights for 12 songs (going back to the original 45 to 47 minute running time for vinyl records), so, Stevie was forced to cut 3 songs off of the album, with this being one of them. She said it hurt her to remove the songs, since they fit the theme of the album. Oddly enough, it seems, by like 2005, that rule was taken away from album releases.
Amazing version
I love this song so much prob my favorite fleetwood mac song LOOOVE IT
For some reason this melody especially at the beginning makes me think of REM loosing my religion.
Omg that great
This version isn't bad but i love the sound and instrumentation of the original album version. The vibe here is completely different. Not at all bad.
the intro sounds like the ending of Isn’t It Midnight 🌙
Awesome ❤
The BEST
Where did you get this version from? I really liked it
So many people in couples are NOT good for each other because that isn't why they got together in the first place (guilty your Honor), whereas the irony involved here is, bands DO think about that, and this band still imploded. And I say that without knowing any of the inside details, of course, but I still find it sad for all involved.
Life is sweet being alone!
Sweeeeeeet!
And soon, another birthday...
O man!!
Spector would be proud
I love the harmonies but they made the right call on Say You Will -- the most impressive part of this song was its arrangement, that sense of disquiet, that unspoken tension. This sounds really busy, which is shame because it's one of the better songs she wrote since 2000.
I love. More this versión enter batery
They should have used this arrangement on SYW.
nah
I like this version, but I love the synth riff on the "Say You Will" version too
Wow not a single comment on friends suprising
A T28 omgggg that scene at the rooftop had me...
Came searching for this from that scene
@@xnorxxx which episode!
@@bfilma which episode!!
@@henryijeoma season 9 epi 20. :)
The Say You Will version is far better. I can't believe Mick, Lindsey and John are playing on this version -- such a lousy song arrangement. It doesn't take much to understand why the song was scrapped. It took Lindsey to take the song to a totally different place.
The more produced version of the demo is the real gem. Both this version and the final that made the cut on Say You Well are overproduced hot messes. Neither have the right tempo or serve the lyrical intent of the song. It's not a rocker like what is attempted here or a bopping pop song on SYW. It's introspective and should be more along the lines of Dreams or Michael Jackson's "Billy Jean". The word "Thrown" in the chorus is missing is growl, not the mention Lindsay is singing the melody here and Stevie the harmony on her own song. No!
@rickrockzyootoob Absolutely. Typical Lindsey magic.
Joanne
She sounds so much like young Miley Cyrus in this version
They had her taken away..she never walked away..cuz they wouldn't let her do that..
To bad Stevie sounds like daffy duck here. I have this on a cd somewhere that I pulled down from the internets its a greater mix of this song for sure.
So apparently Stevie wrote this after seeing Lindsey (as she believed) falling for her again during The Dance filming and tour. Clearly her ego loved that, as she wrote this rather smug song. And right afterwards he got married and raised the family he had always wanted, with someone whose world did not revolve around herself. How salty are you feeling now, Stevie?
The "bitter old man who's talking out of his a$$" look isn't flattering on you. Maybe get your prostate checked.
@@karenwalkersginglass Ad hominem, much? I suppose it doesn't surprise me that a Stevie acolyte would attempt to defend her by personally attacking anyone who made any criticism-without answering the criticism itself in the slightest. Your opinion of me is quite irrelevant.
Lindsey's 'girlfriend' got pregnant so he married her, his song, reflecting how she wanted to be in his 'house on the hill' and now, Lindsey's wife is divorcing him, grab that pen and paper and pick up that guitar Stevie, you know Lindsey may return to you... after all.
copyrighted, freedom of speech & press USA
Stevie is “salty” all the way to the bank!!
@@sag1254 Correct. And those dollars aren't keeping her warm at night, nor did they give her a family like Lindsey's. SALTY.
I’m sorry but this version is so weak compared to the f.m version. Vocals and production don’t do anything for me. Not surprised it got cut from final TISL album.
Joseph Escobedo I think it’s more the production on the vocals that give it an odd feel. I do really appreciate the changes on the guitars especially but it just doesn’t do it for me like the F.M version too
Lindsey is singing and playing on this though and mick is playing drums
Me too! The SYW version is wayyyy better
I agree with you Joseph. Although, Stevie’s voice never waivers, the SYW version brings me to tears and I can literally feel their pain
The Fleetwood Mac is much better
Just a year ago Stevie has $200million dollars and now $120million. They say she has a spending problem, well her and Tori Spelling. At least Stevie doesn't have an earning problem. But yea ahe burnt through tons of money and has less then other female artist like herself. Imagine if Stevie had learned to not spend all her money like she is still doing. Stevie could have been rich like Madonna if she would have controlled her spending addiction. That's why she has to tour all the time because she is a chronic spending addict.
Well, Stevie is in her 70's let her shop, she earned the $cash$ if it makes her happy, let her be happy, love comes and go, a good meal, a good time, w/friends, are good memories, nice clothes, Stevie adorns them.
@@1besieged Exactly !!!!
The best song can not quit playing it