Redgard Waterproofing | Troweling Vs Rolling | Tile Tub Surround
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2024
- I'll be honest...I'm not a huge fan of Regard 😄 It smells so incredibly toxic that I literally can't seem to get the smell out of my head. Even editing this video together I was telling myself....never again!
I wanted to create this video to demonstrate how to use this product in accordance to being comparable to other better waterproofing systems & ANSI 118.10
The fact is most people are not getting this waterproofing thick enough to be comparable. Majority of people are simply rolling 2 coats on and calling it a day. And I ultimately agree 😁 2 coats is probably just fine for a tub surround and any wall application. But its not enough to meet ANSI 118.10 or be equivalent to better products like:
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🎬Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:08 Framing & blocking for cement board
3:35 Overcoming a tub flange with cement board
6:34 Installing Cement Board
11:16 Cement board alongside the tub
13:24 Drywall hanging outside walls
14:29 Redgard Overview
18:55 Cement board corners & seam treatment
20:51 Troweling vs Rolling Redgard
23:55 Better liquid waterproofing methods
25:22 Redgard floor
27:10 2nd coat
20:19 Roller vs Trowel
31:04 Review
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DIYer here. Redgard is an amazing product. I use it all the time. Turn on the vent and stick a fan in the room.
This is a GREAT video! I wish I'd found this a month ago, before I started ripping walls out. Still hanging cement board (which I'd have done slightly differently had I found your video sooner), but this is great info for when I get to the Redgard stage. In our master bathroom. Ugh, lol. Luckily I used Hardie's upgraded waterproof board for the entire long wall, so only need Regard on the two short walls (and over the screws on the Hardie waterproof board). Anyway, this deserves a lot more views and likes -- you have one of the best tub surround videos out there, and I have watched plenty. Thanks for this!
I am so glad I came across your page, I'm a big DIYer and have learn a lot more than I thought I knew about various techniques for building out, water proofing, tiling etc, thank you so much for all the work you and your wife are doing and please keep the videos coming!
I see a lot of hack tilers on youtube. When someone starts quoting TCNA, NTCA, ANSI standards and recommends following manufactures recommendations, they have my attention.
I rolled three coats of Regard in a bathroom job about 7 years ago.
No problems so far, works great. But it can kill some brain cells. Were a respirator.
wear not were
As a DIYer doing a 2 wall basement shower for the first time, I used Kerdi board (Schluter) and found it really simple and only a bit more in price that the Red Guard/cement board. Factor in mess, drying times, fumes, etc and I can't see why you wouldn't do with Schluter. The boards are light, can cut with a knife, they are waterproof (of course you have to cover seams and screw penetrations). When I demo the upstairs shower I'm going to use Kerdi board again and this video (which was great by the way) just clarified that decision for me.
😊 exactly 👍 way easier ways to go these days. The fumes are insane with Redgard 😆 thx
Thanks for the clip. I saw some contractors who strongly suggested putting thin-set on cement board directly without the waterproof membrane.
I appreciate all your excellent videos and information very much - Thank you!
very helpfull! I'm enjoying your videos a lot these days
Thank you for all your knowledge!
Also, I noticed you got the redguard on the tub and floor laminate. How do you remove and clean it up?
excellent video and tips! thanks a lot
good editing, great info, thanks.
As a virgin bathroom re-modeller, and trying to balance budget vs idiot-proof, I'm reluctant to try using Schluter simply because I expect to screw up. RedGuard seems easy enough for us newb's but is Ardex or HydroBan just as forgiving? Budget wise, you made a great point about being budget comparable.
I'm also not a fan of RedGaurd - I prefer to use Hydro-Ban - Much easier - less time consuming process (application and drying time) and almost odorless - Plus I believe its a better waterproofing liquid membrane. I actually prefer to use waterproof Foam board and just seal the joints and screw/plates with Waterproof sealant, and not have to cover the whole wall with a waterproof membrane. I use a 12" wide waterproofing of Hydro Ban on the transition from Wallboard to drywall areas. Thank you for your excellent and very informative and honest opinions videos!
You're correct, Hydroban and AquaDefense are the best for waterproofing! Ardex8+9 and RedGard are pure junk products!
Great info! Thank you!
What do you use for the staples with that furring strips? 1/4” crown 1-1/4” stainless steel staples or something else ?
That caulking gun is awesome
Wheres the primer coat and didnt see him clean the substrate for maximum bonding ?
This product works great when applied properly.
I’m currently doing a full house remodel that includes two bathrooms where I’m building custom showers. I’m definitely using cement board and a liquid membrane. You mentioned a couple other products and I know there is also mapai aqua defense. Of all those products, which is the best and/or easiest to work with?
Easiest is hydroban. Best I’d say is Ardex 8+9. It’s like a rhino liner.
Can i just use a thin set and mesh tape for corners and screws on the cement board and be done with it ?
You made lifting that Sheetrock into place look easy, damn 😳💪
Is there going to be a door on this bathroom?? 🚽👀
Love your trowel method and it’s friendlier to drywallers like myself. Would you know if this method can also be applied to other liquid membrane products like Hydroban or AquaDefense? And how do you clean your tools so you can transition to drywall? Just let the redguard dry and peel off?
I feel aquadefense is pretty much the same consistency as Redgard. So wouldn’t be a bad idea to do it with that. Hydroban goes on thick. So normally not needed. But is helpful troweling the seams and corners
As far as excess. I use plasterweld primer before mudding over 👍
I agree about the smell. It's awful. I have never used Redgard as my primary waterproofing method. I use it as extra protection in corners, around windows, anywhere i think might need just that extra bit of insurance - especially with Schluter since i don't trust their method of using thinset after watching some of Tile Coach's stuff. I trust the poly sealants much more. I may never buy anymore of it since i can get Hydroban locally now.
What are you using for those joints?
Is it necessary to use the mesh tape with the goboard sealant because you're using durock? Goboard install only needs to just use the goboard sealant with no mesh tape.
Go go board, no. Simply use sealant 👍
Great vid by BRT. Finally to see someone do it this way. I have done my first bathroom loooong time ago the same way and relied on common sense. Now watching you do this Steve I got the idea and wonder what if we redguard cement boards prior to installing them onto walls? 👀 Would be much easier handling the trowel on a flat (sawhorse plywood table) or even on the floor and definitely way less messier. Then it would left only to embed the tape over the seams and corners. Hmmmmh And for the smell, if I remember correctly it was strong ammonia based odor that after two hours working in confined space definitely gets to you. Never used hydroban. Does that smell strong as well?
That’s not a bad idea at all. Less work than in the field. I’d still go with a foam board any day 😆
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher Hahaha, of course. Foam board is superior in so many ways. Great work. Saw a finished Barbie & Ken bathroom on insta. Looks dope. 👍💪
What happens if someone doesn’t put the cement board all the way down?
Why not turn on the exhaust fan? For the smell
You are a Master in your Art Sir!!
How come you didn't use "green/purple board" drywall in bathroom? I am asking before i finish the video so you may have answered.
Good question, I usually do
I simply didn’t order or grab it this time. Half the wall will be tile anyways 😆 I feel like that stuff is just a gimic anyways
You don't have to install cement board to build a waterproof shower, you can use moisture proof drywall and apply 2 coats of Hydroban or AquaDefense (avoid this crappy RedGard or Ardex 8+9)
You're done and ready to tile!
You guys never show the exact caulking you use... Thanks for showing it finally
I barely made it through the whole video, the reason it's still wet the next day is because you're putting it on too thick. I understand the jug says what it says, but putting it on in thin Coats 5 Coats with a roller in one day, the 2nd day after the 1st day you hang all the concrete board tape and see all the joints with alkali resistant concrete board, seam tape and thin set like you mentioned. Let it dry and then put 5 Coats on the next day with a fan with a respirator. And I'm using exactly the same amount you are. it should end up being credit card thickness so you're doing it in 2 days and I'm doing it in 2 days, but I'm doing it with a roller, so it's the same, im just using ardex s1k..... Also different municipalities call for different distances on concrete board screws. Where I am it's six inches on edge , Is and eight in the field...... Good video man!
Guess only difference is 2nd day I’m done in 45 minutes verses messing around every hour to apply more. If I had other things to do, I agree rolling is easier. But this is the last time for me anyways 😆
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Its going to crack so thick 😂😂😂😂
@@user-se2ix5br9x no no, never, Only cracks when you put it on thick. Like he's doing in this video. But, Hey, you have a good one.
I prime the walls first dilute redgard with water to prime
I'm curious to know if people still use the bathtub? We had bathtubs in the past; however, nobody would ever use them. There's something about sitting in water that others have showered, unless you going to clean it every time you use it. Many people are obviously too large to sit in a bathtub.
I just wash my body and rinse off with the shower after a bath, but I also keep my bathroom extremely clean
@@MsP2793 You probably fit well in a bathtub; however, I'm 6'4" tall and weigh in the neighborhood of about 270#, and that not fat by the way. 😂
@@jaythefit8817 That's funny, that's about my husband's size and when we were remodeling our bathroom, we didn't have the shower hooked up yet so he was forced to take a bath for the first time since he was a child and he struggled so hard! I have an oversized Jacuzzi bathtub and he still struggled 🤣 but to the comment about the cleanliness, once or twice a week, I fill the bathtub with extremely hot water and about a cup of bleach and I run the jacuzzi for a few minutes and then rinse it out and my bathtub is always sparkling ( I scrub it as well but that is how I clean the jacuzzi part)
@@MsP2793 Do you know how ridiculous we big men feel when in a small tub? It's almost embarrassing to even mention being in a tub. My bride doesn't use the tub because, like many women, is a germaphobe. Can't wear shoes in the house and we can't do anything without her hawkish eye making sure everyone washes their hands. I love her dearly and she is wonderful mother; however, guess who becomes ill far more between the two of us? Yep, my dirty hands and drinking from the creeks and rivers has made me bulletproof. 😂
@@jaythefit8817 I hate to say it but it sounds like me and your wife have a lot in common 🤣 I'm literally the type of person to vacuum their vacuum! And yes I got a very good laugh out of watching my husband struggle in that bathtub, he literally took a shower outside and made me hold the hose as a shower head for him until we finished our bathroom. He'd rather deal with the ice cold water coming from the hose then put himself back into that bathtub!
Peeling that tape off is going to be tough!
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Yikes - I’d be scared to score/cut the cement board on top of new flooring like that!
To get the best cuts you've set up. Saw horses outside with a fan and check the wind and make sure the dust goes down wind. Or you can put a little bit of water on the board and it'll keep the dust down but cutting. With a grinder outside is still best for cutting concrete board. gives you the best edge most accurate.
why use a tile board that requires so much water proofing?
i have used only cement board outdoors with tiles going on 16 years for my outdoor sink/ shower/ outdoor bar i have no problems whatsoever , i dont know if red gaurd was even
invented then…. just saying
He waterproofed the shit out of that shower
he should have used permabase foam. dont even need to redgard the whole board
just the seams and screw heads
There's no need to flatten the ridges after using the 3/16trowel that's a step you can skip imo
USE A SMALL ROLLER WITH RED GUARD
Why too think in layers, will crack and fail
People going crazy with the waterproofing. Why do people stop at the ceiling. Waterproof that sucker to. lol I have removed showers 20 plus years old still fine that were ceramic tile on green board essentially. I wouldn't recommend that but there's a lot more to a lasting shower than any single operation.
Nothing worse than working with stinky chemicals in an enclosed space. Snug-fitting, dual cannister chemical-grade respirator definitely needed, maybe eye protection too.
Lots of $$ on extra Red guard...... perhaps for an upstairs bathroom. No contractor is going to go that far either...... unless they include a 10 year warranty 😆😆
I brush red gard is better and leaves a nice texture
Run the exhaust fan at least. Phew
Why not use the same method with paint. I mean why do 3 layers when you can just do what you do?😂 Oh wait, there is a reason you do multiple thin coats?
I’ll do 4 rollers and 4 days than deal with that trawl mess.
Barbie colors... again!
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what a waste of materials on rolling membrane.
What a butcher 😂😂😂😂
Wouldn’t you want to use the red guard seem tape?