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- Let's compare Samsung Display's QD-OLED panel to LG Display's WOLED panel to see which is the best 4K OLED monitor panel on the market right now.
Monitors with the 4K WOLED panel (affiliate links):
LG 32GS95UE:
🛒 geni.us/rWNqy
📽️ • 480 Hz Dual Mode is In...
🛒 Asus PG32UCDP: Unreleased
Monitors with the 4K QD-OLED panel (affiliate links):
Alienware AW3225QF:
🛒 geni.us/AvUp6
📽️ • Glossy 4K 240Hz OLED i...
🛒 Asus PG32UCDM: geni.us/mGP1
🛒 MSI MPG 321URX: geni.us/PMaA
🛒 Gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P: geni.us/cCjUA
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Perfect video and timing! I've literally been looking at these two monitors and debating on whether to pull the trigger on the AW or hold out for the LG, pretty much no comparisons between these two specific models out there at the mo, thanks for a fantastic video
Thank you for your great content/reviews/comparisons. Quite precise and really enjoyable. Keep it up. Freue mich schon auf das nächste Video. 😊
Im going for the WOLED but both options look just great!
Super zusammengefasst, vielen Dank.
Great video, thanks!
Very good video, and trust me, I have seen way too many monitor reviews last couple of weeks. So this is a compliment you should not take lightly! 😁👍
Which one will you use techless? Great review as always!
Is there any information when LG is launching them in germany? You can preorder the WQHD ones already but not the 4K 32 inch model.
Just when I needed an OLED comparison video, you came to my rescue!
i bought good one after watching his videos
I say if someone just want OLED and can go with 42" the LG C3 is it, especially if it's on offer. Better image quality than all these monitors and has apps for movies/series too but I guess many PC or smaller monitor people here and therefor close on desk it's absolutely too large then.
@@flockelocke2297 what do you define as better image quality? It's clearly not as sharp due to lower PPI and it also has the old pixel layout, adding text fringing. so the only advantage really is the higher brightness and maybe the glossy, highly reflective coating, however that last point can be very subjective.
@@patrikmedia better image quality for gaming and movies/series in general. It's not just brightness, it's simply better. People also make posts on reddit that have older C1 or CX and are not impressed with these monitors. The C3 is real great TV and one of the best, more settings also, better processing and other things come into play where we normal dudes have no clue about. Also I have myself high ppi displays 4k 28" and 4k 32", both 144 Hz and a C3.
About matte, personally, I think a monitor has to be matte. There is a reason why it's the usual.
@@patrikmedia better image quality for gaming and movies/series in general. It's not just brightness, it's simply better. People also make posts that have older C1 or CX and are not impressed with these monitors. The C3 is real great TV and one of the best, more settings also, better processing and other things come into play where we normal dudes have no clue about. Also I have myself high ppi displays 4k 28" and 4k 32", both 144 Hz and a C3. About matte, personally, I think a monitor has to be matte. There is a reason why it's the usual
Hi, great video! Please share where you get your backgrounds😭💕 thanksss
The raised blacks on the QD-OLED are such a dealbreaker for me. Even in a moderately lit room you can tell that the blacks are pinkisk gray. It’s a shame because I really like the glossy panel. Have to go with WOLED for this one.
C3 42" > all QD-OLED monitors, but smaller size and higher refresh rate and better input lag if you need that, WOLED > QD-OLED.
@@flockelocke2297120Hz
@@flockelocke2297 A C2 would be great, but most people can’t fit a 42” screen into their setups. I certainly can’t.
@@flockelocke2297 In terms of quality image no one woled can be better than QD oled with actual techno ! The woled have fucking greylish image and that s ruin everything ! especially if you get higher brightness !
Those LG TVs are huge for most people's desks and rooms, while having the old subpixel structure, the new 32" WOLED and QD OLED monitors have much better text clarity.
@techless there have been numerous post on reddit etc. about the LG being locked at 600 nits in HDR or something like that, which makes people think that it is in need of a firmware update to unlock the full brightness in HDR. Is that true?
This was a great video, but I really want that neon liquid wallpaper for my OLED. Anybody know where to get it?
I've got the PG32UCDM on pre-order (uk) can't wait
cost?
I love my AW3225QF. I do play in a room where I can control the lighting, so no issues 👍
how 'light' does it need to be before you start seeing the raised blacks?
@thepadster123 one 60w equivalent led bulb at max brightness in my bedroom gets it fairly bright with zero effect on black levels as long as the light source isn't behind it. A lot of people are either highly sensitive or making a mountain out of a molehill
@@veilmontTV does your wall painted with white color?
@@aruvanadj2362 my walls are white
@@veilmontTV Do you mean no light source IN FRONT OF IT? or is behind also bad?
to me the color pop of QD-OLED makes it my preferred tech (I own both QD and regular W OLEDs btw)
yeah it's hard to capture how much better it is. The weird thing is even side by side you don't notice that much but when switching between monitors they both just have such a unique feel and I prefer the punchyness of the QD. it feels like colorful soft and smooth plastic, hard to explain. Not just yellows either as the video suggests...Reds, oranges, yellows, greens, even blues.
Are there any dual mode displays that can switch between 1440p higher refresh rate and 2880p high refresh rate (doesn't have to be exactly 480Hz and 240Hz)? The 2880p mode for desktop use for increased screen space and sharper text and the 1440p mode for gaming because most gpus can't really render games at 2880p high/ultra and high fps. And of course it has to be matte.
Great comparison and perfect timing…. Currently trying to decide between these two. The AW is only still in the race because of the relatively low price here in Switzerland (985 CHF). That LG is not available yet but will probably be 400.- more 😔
Def don't pay more. any of these are great monitors and there are better uses for a few hundreds bucks than getting a slightly "better" monitor.
IMO anyway.
It's so weird tbh... On the TV side, I would choose the LG G4 with its georgous WOLED-panel compared to Samsung's S95D QD-OLED panel, but on the monitor side, I would stick with the 3rd gen QD-OLED panels from Asus, Gigabyte and Dell/Alienware compared to LG's WOLED monitor panels... this is going to be a very interesting year
I would do the opposite, for a TV I appreciate the improved color volume and I watch at night in a dark room so the brighter blacks are not a problem.
For a monitor however I use it in a normally lit room all day so WOLED is better, oh and the 480hz mode would be fun
well yeah because Samsung done goofed and put a matte coating on a TV, something literally no one asked for.
@@rickystafford7433It's not really matte and also it improves visibility during day by a ton.
I myself have a LG C1 TV and when the sun comes out, the TV turns into a mirror. Never happened to my LG OLED Monitor in the same room, since it has a real matte finish, which is exactly what I need, since I am not a vampire that is scared of sunlight...
The thing with woled is that it looks better the brighter it gets. That’s probably why you prefer the tv.
@@rickystafford7433 stupid choice they made its destroys the clearity and pixel sharpness
Bist du sicher dass der alienware samsung panel hat? Wo steht das?
Worth noting that LG WOLEDs for 2024 with GS in the name feature LGs new MLA+ WOLED panels with META 2.0 technology, giving them typical SDR brightness of 275 nits. This seems a decent step up from the sub 200 nits performance of LGs previous 2023 GR models.
Which is virtually useless except for brightness chasers. I barely use my VA panel at 10-20% brightness, and it's 300 nit. That's barely 60 nits in regular usage. At most on a bright day I might use 50%, which is still just 150 nits. So 200 nits is more than enough. Same applies for night, where I wouldn't even dream of wanting high nits, because then you just get flashbanged by every bright scene. In a way I'm glad people complain about the brightness, because it means I can get the lower brightness monitors for discounted prices because no one thinks they want them because of everyone spreading this brightness chasing disease. 300 nits is really all a person needs for bright HDR content, which every one of these monitors can achieve on the highlights, because almost no scene is going to be mostly full white. Even if you had a scene where you had the bottom half of the image being black and the top half being pure white, virtually all OLEDs can display that at 300 nits or higher, which means a more realistic scene is going to be even brighter, closer to 400-600 nits at the very least.
@@peoplez129 I'm sorry, if you're saying that beyond 200nits brightness is "useless" you really have no idea what makes good picture (and especially good HDR)
@@theSato SDR doesn't need more than 200 nits. Most people turn up their IPS monitors because the brightness counteracts IPS glow by making their pupils shrink from the brightness, making everything look darker, so by proxy the darker areas look darker in comparison to the bright areas. All OLEDs do about 600-1000 nits peak brightness on HDR, which is bright, and brighter than even most IPS screens.
@@peoplez129 On most IPS screens, I see less clouding with lower brightness. Thank you for sharing this useful information @theexpatgunner I will keep an eye out for GS models.
still waiting for full glossy (with a polarizer like on LG oled TVs) 32inch to replace my C2 42.
To get the most out of monitors with refresh rates of 480 Hz, 240 Hz, or 144 Hz, your PC needs to be capable of generating frames at the same rates, that is, 480 fps, 240 fps, or 144 fps, respectively. While a 144 Hz display will still look good, to achieve the best native performance, matching the frame rate to the refresh rate is essential. Otherwise, you won't experience the full potential of the higher refresh rates, and it might not make much sense to invest in them unless your system can keep up.
What's your opinion on the quality of the matte coating on the LG?
Some people on other youtube channels are acting like it's horrifically bad. Elsewhere I see it's allegedly a mild matte coating and LESS grainy than normal. So it's hard to know what to expect.
Matte is matte, but yes, this is a slightly better quality matte than the ones found previous models.
WAIT a sec. just for clarification, at 07:17 you said that the blacks on WOLED are better, but i notice that the Alienware has a glossy Display while the LG hasnt, could it be because the glossy panel is reflecting every little bit of light or are you sticking to your conclussion? I just wanna know that a 100%. thx
It's because of the QD-OLED layering, it doesn't have a polarizer so the Quantum Dots get stimulated causing a purple-ish effect on what's supposed to be dark/black spots of the image, also happens when the display is off.
Wie er auch im Video sagt und was auch von RTINGS bestätigt wird, jedes bisschen Umgebungslicht lässt Schwarz leicht in Lila übergehen, laut RTINGS ist dies nicht mehr der Fall wenn es kaum bis kein Umgebungslicht gibt und dann ist Schwarz auch wieder wirklich Schwarz. Das Fazit ist also wohl, wenn man diese QD-OLEDs tagsüber betreiben möchte, sollte man darauf achten das der Monitor keinesfalls direkt licht abbekommt und auch nicht zu viel indirektes Licht, also wenn der Schreibtisch schräg oder sehr nahe zum Fenster steht braucht man wohl Rolläden oder einen anderen Monitor :D
I'm confused at your "very similar" descriptions because unless it's TH-cam acting up, the QD-OLED looked like it has way more detail in a lot of scenes. What's going on?
I mean it's glossy so it is objectivity sharper
can you please do the acer nitro xv271u m3?
QD-OLED is the best for Cyberpunk at night, neon signs everywhree!
Any plans on reviewing the Aoc 24G4/X
Aoc is rubbish.
Exactly the video I've been waiting for, seems the LG is the better choice for multimedia and gaming.
I have been using msi qd-oled for a month. A glossy screen is definitely not a good thing. It sharpens the image but reduces the contrast. Also difficult to clean
A glossy display enhances contrast. The reason you think it doesn’t is because it lacks a polarizer. Use the MSI in a light controlled room and you’ll have the best image quality on a gaming monitor in 2024.
Hey can you make video all different specs of monitor I mean I don't what srg and dcip is and the 10 % window and 25% window can you explain all theses terms
SRGB and DCI p3 are "color spaces".
Think of it as the colors on a painters pallette. A wider color space means it can display a wider variety of colors.
So a wider color space can produces more vibrant and bright colors.
The window sizes refer to how much of the screen is lit up.
So a 2% window size is a small highlight taking up about 1/50th of the screen. 50% takes up half
Generally the bigger the window the lower the brightness. LCDs can usually push more full screen brightness than OLED or QD OLED
WRGB has a white subpixel that also helps with full screen brightness since that's a weakness.
@@paulcox2447 Thanks man🫡🫡
You should review the miniled monitors by Innocn.
What's weird to me is that WOLED never uses the RGB subpixels to display white, only the white subpixel. It seems to me that displaying RGB with the white subpixel would easily increase the brightness of white things, but for some reason WOLED only wants to use the white subpixel. I could see how this would increase the lifespan of RGB subpixels, but my guess is the real reason why is because the RGB subpixels don't exactly match the same white point of the white subpixel, and that's why they avoid displaying all of them at the same time unless you want to display a non white shade.
Don't you think that QD OLED has a more pinkish white, compared to WOLED?
I returned my MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED because while the picture quality was great, the glossy coating just captures too may reflections from ambient light sources and the raised purplish blacks were definitely a deal breaker as I also use my computer under natural lighting conditions. I currently have the LG 45GR95QE-B and it’s totally fine in natural, artificial and no lighting conditions. It was hard to justify keeping the MSI when it only works well in 1 of the 3 lighting conditions so I sent it back. Hopefully next year’s model will be a bit better as I really wanted to like it.
I preordered the LG the day it was listed on Amazon. Unfortunately now it says estimated delivery in 3-7 months LOL I hope I get mine earlier, when I ordered it said 1-3 months (about 1 month ago).
Jesus. Have you received it yet?
@@PD-ws4td nope, no delivery in sight so far. idk what LG takes so long to provide them in Europe, there is literally no online store where you can preorder them other than Amazon.
@@patrikmedia that’s really weird. I ordered mine 2 days ago and it is on track to be delivered on June 3rd… and I’m in EU…
@@PD-ws4td where from if I may ask?
@@patrikmedia Norway
Personally when it comes to curved i'll say 100% if gaming on an ultrawide but it gets more questionable at 16:9 and on the note with the 480hz mode I can see it being good in games where the res doesn't matter as much and u just need raw fps
I was using a Samsung Odyssey G7 for some time which had an extreme curve of 1000R (that is way more curved then this with 1700R) and I really liked it for games and even other media, the first 3-4 days I actually disliked it, but after I got used to it, I noticed that it really helped with immersion, you get the feeling of looking at the objects itself rather then the display for some degree atleast, which was very apparent when swapping back to a flat display.
The biggest downside is that it defnitely slightly distorts objects, which is absolutely not a problem for entertainment media (you still perceive flat lines as flat etc. just not perfectly flat), but as soon as you need to do something on the monitor where you need forms to be actually precise, the monitor becomes instantly unusable.
Sidenote: For people that think that curved displays are not suited for competitive FPS. At the time I was using the 1000R display, was the first time I've managed to get Rank 10 on FACEIT (CSGO) and am still since then. I did peak on my current 360Hz display tho, but that is not because of the display but I generally improved. I would say curve or not curved is negilible for competitive gaming, from a performance PoV, the other display metrics matter more (Motion Blur > Refresh Rate btw. there are monitors that outperform higher refresh ones just simply due to better pixel response times or backlight strobing techniques.
Yeah for me the color fringing on the new 32 inch 240 hz panel (gigabyte variant) qd oled was a deal breaker. Its entirely subjective and probably better w/ this new generation but for me I could see it instantly compared to my 27 inch IPS panel and just bothered me to no end. Even in game.
Hey, was it really bad then? I’m literally able to pull the trigger on the AW but thinking to hold out on the W-OLED as my setup is by a window and while not an issue in winter, summer evenings gaming I could see it being a mare, already got C series tv which handles reflection pretty well but can imagine glossy being a right mare on my desk
A subjective impression cannot do it all. Maybe the QD-OLED is over-saturating colors, can't know without measurements (although we know the WOLED won't have a good color volume)
There are measurements in his specific reviews for these monitors, which seem to match other review outlets.
The Samsung QD-OLEDs are defnitely more color accurate with sRGB dE
I would have preferred 1440p 360hz than 1080p 480hz as 1080p, already too blurry if you're used to 4k, especially looks blurry in the cropped modes.
1080p already looks bad to me on a 25" monitor.
Yeah I know fast past games aren't about the eye candy but since I'm never going to be a professional esports gamer I see no reason to sacrifice that much in quality for a tiny bit extra motion performance.
All this is to say that I would go for QD-OLED because it looks better
wait for 1440 480 hz then
@@arttizkappa2588Still matte WOLED.
@@andrewmorris3479 qd oled is just semi-glossy if u want that glossy then go for tv then
@@arttizkappa2588 Semi-glossy QD-OLED isn’t much different than glossy QD-OLED so good enough for me.
Glossy W-OLED is my end game. A shame I have to wait longer for it without having to use a TV.
I suggest the LG C4 for 42/48 inch sizing or the LG G4 for 55/65/77/83 sizing if you have the space
Pronunciation tip: "Triangular" has a G not a J and "owl" rhymes with "foul", not "bowl". Great comparison, your channel is in my top 10. You're the only reviewer who has mentioned that the LG has a peak brightness mode, which makes a huge difference for normal game/movie scenes, as can boost the brightness by up to 40 percent compared to a QD-OLED! Most people think OLEDs are too dim (I agree), but this feature makes me seriously consider this new WOLED.
This vid would’ve been better if it was recorded in HDR
Danke sehr ich kann momentan den UltraGear OLED 27GR95QL-B League of Legends Edition für 560 Euro bekommen. Denke der Aufpreis ist der QD nicht wert für meine Series X.
Ferner sieht das matte Display nicht ganz so brilliant aus wie die glänzende Version, man sollte aber die Spiegelungen nicht unterschätzen.
If one used a QD-oled if its a TV or a monitor before you never gonna go back to Woled
There's definitely a weird red tint to the QD-OLED...
The ambient light reflection issue on the QD-OLED panels is very real. In a normally lit room, the quantum dot layer is clearly visible, making blacks look not much better than those on an IPS panel. It's that bad. The panel is also difficult to clean - mist a clean, soft microfiber cloth with eyeglasses cleaner to remove fingerprints. Distilled water just spreads the finger grease around, making it nearly impossible to remove.
Just turn off the light?
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I'll take the LG OLED. WOLED and QD-OLED don't get black enough.
it would be better if you would use the asus oled monitor, because it has a glossy display
The best OLED monitor is the one that doesn't flicker with G-Sync on. I don't think it exists yet.
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ill be waiting for china to make a 24-25 inch oled monitor in 2035 before i buy one tbh
Neither. Wait until next year-hopefully real scene peak brightness with be worth a d@&* on these things then.
You don't seem to understand what luminance means. Just say brightness or luminous intensity.
we need 27 inch 4k 240hz oled .
not worth it
@@Deadfaisal 32 inch is very large for me. i dont have more desk space
@@gwb2kyt81 and 27 inch is small for 4k
If you can't have glossy in your room then get which ever's cheaper
so far none of them are worth buying. We finally got 32" OLED but all of them have VRR flicker issues in dark scenes. Until that is fixed I will stay with my 32GQ950
actually there's a lot of reviews and videos showing that the LG 32 oled doesn't flicker in game in dark scenes but still flickers in menus
the only flicker you will see is from loading screens when the frame rates go from 10fps to 240fps... you should frame cap anyway for with vrr for stable frame times which removes any sort of flicker anyway, rtings showed basically a game where its frame times are unstable and how this can cause oled to flicker.
Wtf... QD-oled isnt even oled any more with all that contrast gone with a simple light... 7:13
niether one is.
The Samsung by a nose.
yeaaaa but only 1 has a 420 refresh rate, easy win
I paid $1000 after taxes for the LG 32GS95UE last night. We’ll see how it compares to the PG32UCDM as I absolutely love that monitor.
How did you get that price??
@@houssamalucad753 The information was shared on Reddit last night in the OLED GAMING sub on how to do it. Pretty crazy deal!
you have to call out hte elephant in the room.
LG still has the balls to make their own panels and displays.
Samsung electronics makes the worst monitors.
You always have to wait for Asus to buy a samsung panel and make a good monitor.
hence, the Asus PG32ucdm.
9:19 nah QDOLED is simply better even if it has raised blacks and even if you play in a bright room
Matte coating makes colors smeared all over and that is a big deal more big deal than a slightly raised black
LG is better hands down.
qd-oled is not OLED!
Häää?
The DP1.4 is a deal breaker for me. How can I strive for the latest and greatest 4k@240hz with a gorgeous picture quality an then use almost 3:1 lossy compression. Would have to use HDMI 2.1 on this monitors.
the Gigabyte FO32U2P has DP2.1
Its out for backorder right now on newegg
the gigabyte OLED coming sometime this year has DP2.1.
Yeah
The UltraGear monitor has my eye but the gigabyte dp2.1 monitor might be the best gaming monitor in 2024
Only problem is direct light activating the qdoled panel but i have never seen this in person so idk what to pick
Theyre my top two favorites
the compression really isn't noticable
no nvidia graphics cards support 2.1
That disgusting matte coating made the choice easy for me
WOLED monitor 100%
QD OLED have raised blacks in anything but a dark room. It doesn't even need to be a really bright room, average lit room will raise blacks. Defeating the purpose of OLED.
That's before we even get the semi glossy cheap plastic coating they use on the QD OLED monitors. Absolute horrible coating which micro scratches after 1 cleaning w/ a brand new microfiber. Got a smudge on it or some spit splatters? Be prepared to be cleaning it for 30 minutes to get it off & by the time you're done, micro scratches.
It's funny how a lot of this is finally coming to light & the echo chamber the once lamented QD OLED as better, is finally reversing course.
The coating is that bad??? Did not expect that.
None, cos none of them are available in stock.
Blacks look better on LG
Black level of both is zero. In a pitch dark room QD-OLED black level is identical.
@@andrewmorris347999% of people don't use a monitor in a pitch black room lmao.
QD OLED monitors are absolute shit w/ a cheap easy to micro scratch plastic semi-gloss coating.
@@OC.TINYYYHaha spoken from someone who has never owned a QD-OLED monitor. Every display should be used in a pitch dark room and ambient light is the enemy to contrast. My PG32UCDM has the best image quality I’ve ever seen for gaming hands down.
Brightness is marketing bullshit, modern oleds can become so uncomfortably bright I tone them all down anyway.
Proper blacks are what truly matters, and WOLED wins there every time, you'll never fuly eliminate ambient light and QDOLED blacks get washed out by even the smallest amounts.
I play in a pitch dark room and my PG32UCDM looks absolutely insane.
samsung beter.
Both are rubbish. Im going to make my own display in my day dream with unlimited monitor hz and -5000 input lag where the mouse points me itself to enemys head so it can be quicker than hackers itself.
Not true, the high end is the AORUS FO32U2P. it's not alienware aw3225qf. Stop misinforming the people about monitors, and more specifically - stop misinforming them about the glossy and matte problem. Neek.
Both have the same panel.
@@stephaneburne4155 No, the AORUS FO32U2P is 31.5 inches and it has DP 2.1 UHBR20, it's not curved and has a better design. Now think again.
what do you mean by high end? the one with the most features is the Asus, not the Aorus that isn't even on sale yet, on the budget end there's the MSI in the US and the Dell everywhere else.
@@houssamalucad753 you can buy the aorus fo32u2p and its the best on the market. All other models are trash. asus doesnt have the best quality and the best features, even tho it provides the most features. Aorus fo32u2p is the best.
sticking with VA
IPS for me. I can't stand the smearing and the vignetting of VA.
@@conyo985 Cheap VA's are so awful. Haven't seen personally how Samsungs high end VA panels look tho.
That’s a shame. ASUS PG32UCDM is insane.
@@conyo985Samsung's 2nd gen VA Panels have no smearing and have double to triple the contrast ratio of IPS panels.
that's awful man
i just managed to get an msi mpg321urx. wich is the only one that i could get here in europe. i only had LG WOLEDs up until now and i must say that i am very suprised how much light the QD oled absrobs. in a somewhat lit room the display looks almost competely grey! that is more irritating then i had anticipated!
aw3423dwf is better than those... till they release ultrawide 4k+ at the end of year:)