You forgot the music. Yasunori Mitsuda easily keeps pace with his coworker at Squaresoft, Nobuo Uematsu, for the quality of his work. One of the best soundtracks ever made, before or since. It's absolutely _phenomenal._
@@ReplayJunky Plenty, if you're going over Mitsuda himself, the events that occurred during the orchestration of the game, varying tracks and how they set the emotional scenes, and how they affected gaming ever since.
@@Lycanthromancer1I cant believe the computer the music was on got corrupted and he had to re-write everything from memory in a few months before the game came out. That frantic lost time feeling worked perfectly in the soundtracks favor since its so closely tied to the story
My dad had me play this game because it was his favorite game of all time, and me never having played it before instantly fell in love with the story, gameplay, and art style. Chrono trigger is the rpg of all time (Pun VERY intended,) and I recommend it to every RPG enjoyer I know.
One of the reasons I go back to Chrono Trigger (and this does apply to a lot of others in the genre, at least in the 16 and 32 bit eras) more than most other JRPGs is the simplicity in the gameplay. You don't need a whole bunch of crafting, cooking, social, romance, etc systems in a game to make it engaging and fun, you just need good foundational mechanics and a solid story. Take a look at most current JRPGs and how you get bogged down in menus and systems and needless mechanics. If they remade Chrono Trigger in the same vein as FF7, that'd be a huge mistake IMO.
@@danpantzig7266 yea I agree, newer games have too much side stuff and honestly I get bored or just ignore for main story. I also feel newer games (not all) focus heavily on graphics and not enough on story/gameplay.
@@ReplayJunky CT's side stuff is only after getting flying Epoch. It's not mandatory but clearing them will give you extra resources for the final dungeon/boss.
@@wedasantika6079 It's mostly the same stuff every other period JRPG at the time did, a bunch of sidequests to get the Ultimate Weapons for everybody and some ultimate armors. I think FF4 and/or 5 were one of the few "mainstream" JRPGs that didn't do a bunch of optional sidequests for ultimate weapons and armor, instead just stuck them all on pedestals in the final dungeon and let you kill insanely powerful bosses for them.
Aside from time travel, an advanced battle system, incredible character design, even more incredible character, in general, an amazing story, multiple endings and outcomes based on in-game decisions, beautiful graphics, and even more beautiful score, and infinite replayability, is it over rated? No.
@@treybrannon4964 me personally, I don’t think it’s overrated. But I guess it depends on when you played it. I recommended this to someone who just completed it and he loved it, gave it 4.5 out of 5, while others see it as an older game.
"All right, but apart from sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?" 😂😂😂
I love Lucca. She was my role model as a kid. She's a brilliant engineer and scientist, making time portal manipulation devices and primitive robotics at a time when other people are using swords and crossbows. She's got the immensely powerful Flare, and her double/triple techs are nothing to sneeze at either. Crono may be the player's character, but in my view, Lucca and Marle are closer to the "main character" in terms of personality. Marle represents the righteousness, the idealistic drive to better the world. Whereas Lucca is the tenacious capability to get shit done, to work on a problem with your own two hands. On top of that, the bad ending, "Day of Lavos" is the most haunting shit I have ever seen in a video game. Even 30ish years later, nothing has topped it for me.
That's awesome Lucca was your role model! I LOVE that!!! Yea, I can definitely see why you and many others think Lucca and Marle are closer to the main characters than Crono because he doesn't talk, they talk for him. I never really realized this until I went back and did the video and was like, "wait...does Crono ever talk?!"
@@ReplayJunky The "silent protagonist" feels somewhat outdated in the modern era. I understand why it exists, but I do prefer the characters to be distinct than be self-inserts. Frog, Robo, Ayla and Magus are good characters as well, to be sure. Frog, a grieving, humiliated knight trying to regain his humanity and dignity. Robo being a forlorn junk heap who sees how far his kind has fallen from their duties. Ayla being a vibrant and passionate chief, representing the joyful ambition of the human race before it is corrupted. Magus and the misery of a lonely prince having lost everything, stewing in that empty, miserable need for revenge for his entire life, to the point where he would make others go through what he did just to hurt the one who hurt him. All such iconic characters. And honestly, I think we even get a beautiful moment of characterization in even Chrono, in his heroic moment of determination where he stands alone against Lavos. The culmination of the tragedy that is Chrono Trigger.
@@ReplayJunky That depends on what your next video is; Chrono Trigger I got a lotta words on because I've thought about it so much, but if you're covering something I didn't happen to play very much, I'm pretty sure I'd be less useful, haha Still, I appreciate your video, it's always good to take a critical eye to the classics. Its how you learn what separates them from the ones that are forgotten
That is so nice, thank you for your kind words. I spent way longer than I like to admit making this video...and my Zelda one was even longer... So, what few games would you like to see next in this type of light? What are your favorites games?
if you think about it the 16-bit consoles sits right about in the middle of the time spectrum where older games (pre 16-bit) just weren't technologically advanced enough to be considered fun & playable today, and newer games (i would say post 64-bit era) rely too much on tech that gameplay design takes a backseat. the 16-bit era is that one time in gaming history where the power & limitations of the hardware was being wonderfully balanced by the ingenuity & creativity of the devs. abundance is really the death of ingenuity
@@renowijoyo I completely agree, newer games focus too much on graphics and gameplay/story suffers sometimes. I think the SNES is one of the best consoles.
There are a few 8-bit games that still are enjoyable such as DQ3, DQ4, and especially Crystalis if you don't mind some visual glitches due to them absolutely pushing the limits of that poor old NES.
Played it again recently, there's no nostalgia blindness with this game its amazing from start to finish, and yes, its legitimately better than anything being put out these days.
I feel that newer games rely too much on graphics and think it will be enough. I blindly bought FF15 because it looked really cool and I was like, well it's a Final Fantasy game how bad could it be...returned it next day
Chrono Trigger will hold up forever because it plays like a high quality short form shonen anime. The important factor being that it's short, which means that it has very little material that feels like a slog. A lot of modern day RPGs, even the popular Persona 5, have sections to them that feel like work. Chrono Trigger doesn't have that. Playing through it feels like binge watching a tv show that wraps up in a single season. Honestly, if Dragon Quest 5 came out in the US during the SNES days, people probably would have praised it equally. DQ5 has legendary status in Japan.
I have never heard Chrono Trigger referred to as a short form shonen anime. Being an anime fan myself, that really clicked for me when I read that. Good observation!
Being short is definitely one of Chrono Trigger's strong points. Some people might think that short means bad, because it means less content. But a game like Chrono Trigger, when compared to a lot of longer games, proves that more often than not, longer games are only longer because they're filled with fluff you don't need. Whereas Chrono Trigger is the result of cutting out all that fat, and keeping only the good stuff.
@@ReplayJunky Which only better complements the game's length. If Chrono Trigger's length was more on par with something like Final Fantasy 6, you'd be far less compelled to want to go through the trouble of seeing all the endings. Instead, that element of replay value plays into the strength of Chrono Trigger's short length to make the task of seeing all the endings less tedious, and more enticing to get more out of the experience.
i argue the way chrono trigger did the ATB is superior to how FF series has hangled it, cause the 'wait' option allows while scrolling a menu to actually look through it. a MASSIVE accessability feature for those of us with visual or reading problems like reading speed or dislexia (no i cant spell that right sadly).
@@ReplayJunky and im speaking AS one of those disabled gamers having played FF6 and chono trigger and am saying it comparing how they handle it. i often got my ass kicked just trying to sort through menus to look for the right item or spell in ff6. and i know you are just making a statement some might get defensive and i just came off as such. im just trying to say i made that statement from a point of view that most just dont have in a world where i keep hearing about faux-accessability demanding games have easy modes when us disabled gamers just want features that allow us to have as close to the same experience as non-disabled gamers sorry got on a soap box there, its a fucked day for me
@@Lyceaos you’re fine! I was just saying people would be upset that I think CT > FF6. That does bring up an interesting point, games that have an option like you were suggesting. I’d back that up because it allows the player to choose their gaming experience
2:25 come on, the combo/triple techs vary, so that is misleading, let alone slurp kiss with frog and Ayla is life insurance (Marle sucks vs haste helms and weaker aura combos ) removing debuffs when Lavos overrides. At least mention when enemy weaknesses force you to change characters (don’t use magus vs Lavos shell as he can’t single target unless maybe grinding techs), with Ayla making the Dalton prison break less tedious as she fights without equipment (and others aren’t allowed despite magic abilities, which makes no sense).
Thank you for the feedback, it was more of an overview of Chrono Trigger and I didn't want to go too deep into it. For myself, I stuck to a certain team unless the game made me include someone else.
@@ReplayJunky oh ok. I did read up on needing gemstones that can be tough to find for triple techs, as well as learning about double cure and cure wave being strong double techs with frog for Marle and Robo, so he definitely makes your game easier once he catches up to power creep with Masamune and its upgrade. I don’t think I’d just sideline someone, as many other games can have useless characters (though I haven’t really done big damage with Robo, but he does help (except when he lets his former friends jump him and throw him in the trash lol that hurt my brain more than going to jail when unanimously not guilty in trial, though you could sit it out rather than kill the guard at least), rather than situational ones. For useless characters,Final fantasy tactics has a ton of (knight, archer and thief are generally painful stepping stones for better classes they unlock, with bard/dancer doing too little too late with slow stat manipulation/buffs that miss half the time) that need you to grind more than what advanced class generics have at that time, like Cloud, Marach, Rapha, Mustadio and Agrias (Reis if you don’t know her passives the game doesn’t explain nor collect 900 JP for holy breath). Though Mustadio and Agrias have good evasion and decent magic attack (Mustadio can use robes) if you don’t use them primarily for their default job abilities, which can miss or do low damage compared to iaido, arcane strength, or dual wield (or even geomancer’s attack boost with a bow). RNG did make for a ton of creative content at least. I also think of ff4 with Cid and the slow Mysidia twincast for being useless, so you can do way worse than CT abilities, Never imagined I’d say that. Thanks for your reply to make me explain my scale.
So I wouldn't call the characters useless in Chrono Trigger, just some party combos are inherently stronger than other combos. Then it comes down to playstyle, what you as the player values in a party and who you want to see more of. My favorite combo was Crono, Frog and Marle and I felt that was the most well rounded party.
@ReplayJunky Frog helps every party 🥳 though no way I'll figure out all those chrono cross recruiting steps for his Glenn counterpart 🤣. Also remember that support magic doesn't miss unlike ff2 (before pixel remaster) and fft 🤬. I got a permanent haste vid with Marle to make Magus child's play 🤣, will see if it links (nah, just search boring magus battle, though youtube sometimes delays comments). I was dumbfounded as I thought he was tough as a kid. Wonder if new games can be cheesed similarly with bipolar punch out puzzle disguised difficulty.
It was ahead of its time. 😅 When you play something, it has a lot to do with how you hold it in your heart. When you're waiting all day for school to be done with so you can get back to what really matters.
Having played it back in 95 when it released, every aspect of it back then was mind blowing, the graphics, the story, the music, it was a perfect balance, not an overly complex story and the difficulty was gradual. If you compare today with modern RPG's the game still holds up in every aspect and you could say the graphics are charming with their style.
@@greyfox4577 I feel there was something different back then, I had a larger desire to not just beat the game but complete all the side quests and look for secrets. I didn’t do all the endings but I did try a few of them.
@@ReplayJunky Yeah same here because at the time for me there was no other game with everything CT had to offer, i think for me it was the first game with multiple endings. And on every plathrough i would find new items or other secret areas i missed that just made me want to play through it again. The one major thing that kept me coming back to it was the music since there was no other place to experience it other than in the game.
Chrono Trigger will always have a special place in my heart... Going to the store to get Donkey Kong Country 2 for my 13th (or something) birthday. Then the employee convinced me to get this weird US import game + adapter for 250,- guilders (no euro back then lol), while DKC2 was 160,- ... I did not know Jrpgs or Squaresoft at all. CT became my favorite game of all time, Jrpgs my favorite genre and I played as many as I could on SNES, PS1 and so on. Played through both CT and FF6 dozens of times and I just started with CT on SNES Mini. While I actually have to finish that Elden Ring DLC....
Donkey Kong Country 2 was the best in the series so I hope you got that as well at some point haha! Wow that takes me back, I did the same thing for DBZ imported games for the Playstation 1. I would have to attach a mod device to it, load a PS1 game but then take the game out and replace it with the imported game in order to play it. I didn't know they did that for SNES games too! Glad you got to experience Chrono Trigger though!
@@ReplayJunky definitely! Less life changing but gotta love those DKCs. Also two new ones. Especialy Tropical Freeze. Thats how you bring a franchise back.
@@ReplayJunky imo one of the best 2D platformers ever. Looks great, excellent controls, great level design, amazing David Wise soundtrack and also some secrets/extras to discover. Must play if you like platformers
Giving Chrono Trigger a 4/5 is an insult. This is a 5/5 masterpiece. Not many games ever made can claim to be better. You also didn’t mention the absolutely flawless soundtrack that I play to this day
Currently in the middle of my millionth playthrough. I was 10 when this game first came out and I can say pretty confidently that its my second most replayed to completion game, right behind the Mass Effect trilogy (No, I dont count the 4th). Maybe its nostalgia but I dont care. Ill keep wearing those zesty glasses. The game is an absolute masterpiece.
@@ReplayJunky I agree completely. Especially about the ATB. Most of, if not all modern RPGs have shifted more towards a more action RPG feel with maybe a little hint of the old ways. I'm one of the people who grew away from Final Fantasy after the shift with, I think it was XI? With Lightning or whatever her name was? I preferred the old combat style and when square really dug their heels in with XII I was out completely. I'm only just going back now and playing FFVII Crisis Core because I disliked the decision to move away from the "normal", slower combat styles so much. Come to find out so many years later that it's actually not that bad lol So for people that get their adrenaline kicks out of high octane action I can see why a game like Chrono Trigger may not do it for them. Everything else is fair. Pixel art is still beautiful, the combat system is great. So many things about this game was revolutionary... for it's time. And that's the whole point, things dont stay revolutionary forever. I kinda went off the rails a little bit there but to answer your question more directly; absolutely. It was a very fair and balanced take.
Two friends and myself who grew up in this era, and also played and loved all the old RPGs from Final Fantasy to OG Dragon Warrior, and Breath of Fire, to even more obscure ones, like 7th Saga, somehow all missed Chrono Trigger. We all tried it later separately many years later after the hype, and we all concluded that we didn't like it. There was something about the gameplay that didn't resonate with any of us, maybe it was the status effects, or the way the game handled progression, but all of us had a negative opinion. We didn't have any bias going in, nor did we converse about our own experiences with it, we just wanted to play a game that we never got around to when we were younger. I find it interesting that this game still sits so highly on people's lists, but maybe we're just outliers. I'm not sure I'll ever try it again, and see if I had the wrong opinion of it, but it amazes me that three gamers who were well accustomed to this genre all had the same situation and opinion. I wonder what it would have been like for us if we played it during its era.
@@captdude81 that is very interesting. I do wonder if you heard nothing about the game if you’d still have the same reaction. It’s like hearing a movie is so good and having super high expectations only for it to disappoint. I heard good things about the game later in life as well but I really enjoyed it. Time travel has always been an interest for me. I do appreciate you and your friends giving a game like this a fair try. A game I never played was super Metroid for SNES and I wonder how I would feel about that game playing it now.
I remember when i saw the game advertised in Toys R' Us a few months before it released, i had never played any Final fantasy game nor even knew anything about Squaresoft but the display of it just made me dream about the game and said i want this game since i had never seen anything like it before. When it released i immediately bought it and i loved everything about it except combat since i thought it was going to be closer to a zelda game and not that weird combat system i had never seen before. After some time i learnt to love it and ever since one of my favorites. The problem with a lot of people that play games many years after they release is, imagine they give you an atari 2600 with a game that was great when it released back in early 80s. There is no way nothing from that game would impress you if you play it today but had you played it back then when it was the latest, then your opinion might be different. I have suffered from this on many many games that i never even knew existed when they released, and then i play them many years later, they might have excellent reviews but somehow since the technology is outdated it is hard to experience and appreciate it as someone who did when the game was the latest in gaming.
@@ReplayJunky Yeah sprite animation just gives it a retro style but still looks good vs say a game like FF7 and Resident Evil where it was mostly prerendered backgrounds and polygons, even though they are newer they did not age well in my opinion.
@ReplayJunky great question. I never thought of that before. Hmmm, I want what SquareEnix did to Final Fantasy VII, remaking the game with modern graphics, but adding more in-depth & dramatic stories.
@@PapaRocks13 so FF7 is my favorite game and I was really looking for a shot for shot remake. I liked the addition of some side stories like Jessie's but I didn't like how they started changing the narrative. Rebirth has been more enjoyable for me though now that I'm just enjoying the game and not focused on story as much.
I replay this about once a decade and just finished my first playthrough of the nintendo DS version. Still a great game. I prefer the SNES version though. The DS has extra content e.g. The Lost Sanctum, which is neat, but kind of ended up being too repetitive to be very fun.
I hate it when people complain about turn-based or ATB combat comparing them to ARPGs.... I would argue that ARPGs are the reason behind why nobody has an attention span anymore. People are over-stimulated and impatient. I was just playing CT just a few weeks ago and it was just as fun as I remember it. But then, I tend to not get into button mashy "JRPGs" either. I find that mashing a button or even three buttons repeatedly just doesn't do it for me. I'll make an exception for Tales of Berseria because well, Velvet is fun AF to play as because of her flashy moves and how badass she looks, sounds, and feels to play as. Otherwise, I tend to get bored with button mashy games rather quickly. Turn-based and ATB combat is fine.
Chrono Trigger is absolutele perfection and make modern games look stupid. The planets aligned, it was the dream team, the right time, toriyama sakagushi and horii their peak, and mistuda was a genius pick.
@@ReplayJunky Awesome! Are you going to tie it into the remake or just cover the original? I’ve played the original and the first installment of the remake. Remake is amazing, but still lacks the magic of the first one. I chalk that up to nostalgia. If you don’t mind playing old games I highly recommend Xenogears. It also has anime cut scenes and a similar play style to Crono Trigger.
@@Silo1776 it’s going to be the original, but I’m going to pull slightly from Advent Children and Crisis Core to explain a few things since the original doesn’t explain well. Remake was good but Rebirth is better. For me I wanted a shot for shot remake lol. Once I got over they weren’t doing that, I enjoyed the games a lot more. I was just talking about how even though the remakes were great, they don’t have the same replayability for me. You’re also not the first one in the comments to suggest xenogears so will definitely have to try it!
It is better than modern RPGs , I’ve played all kinds of RPGs from chrono trigger to skyrim to souls games and i still find chrono trigger much much better than all of them , and no its not nostalgia because I played the game in around 2019
so that is the question and purpose of these videos, if great games back in the day still hold up to today's standards (ie: they're playable today) Glad you picked it up and played it!
There's an reason why Chrono Trigger still holds up remarkably well. The gameplay was simple, yet compelling, the story isn't complicated, yet still engaging to see what happens, it introduced seeing enemies in the world rather than being random encounters and the pacing was nice & fluid without any padding. Combined with memorable characters & awesome soundtrack, Chrono Trigger is an all time classic.
I don't agree, its still a 10/10, pacing, gameplay, sound effects/music, story, and fun factor along with replay-ability still rival all modern RPGs and generally outpace them, you would need to go into a game like BG3 to find something comparable. Even new game plus that was basically invented by Chrono Trigger is still generally not done right nowadays. Most games that try new game plus have the exact same game but you start over with your gear and there is no difference between playthroughs. The only recent title that actually has new content on NG+ playthroughs is Armored Core 6.
You make some good points and I love discussions like this. Chrono Trigger is one of my favorite games of all time. But I do think if looked at objectively that newer players to the game might have a different opinion on. For games like this that I grew up on, I can go back and play and thoroughly enjoy and nostalgia plays a big role in it. But if someone recommends a game from that generation that I didn't play as a kid, how would my opinion alter? Curious, when did you first play CT and what game from that era did you not play that is well received?
For me, it doesn't really matter whether or not it's better than modern RPGs. In fact, looking at it with my modern mindset of what I enjoy about RPGs, Chrono Trigger has a lot missing. For example, as I've gotten older, I've gained more of an appreciation of utilizing more elaborate tactics than just hitting and healing, such as utilizing status effects, and other more technical skills. Something which Chrono Trigger is seriously lacking. I could go on, but anything negative I have to say about it really doesn't matter, nor does it matter whether or not Chrono Trigger stands the test of time. Because regardless of any of that, it remains my favorite game of all time. Not because of how much I like it today, but because of how much I loved it as a kid in relation to any other game I've ever played in my life before, or since. Does that mean it's my favorite game because of nostalgia? Absolutely. But my point is that no game I've ever played has made me fall in love with it to nearly the same degree as Chrono Trigger did when I first played it. And given how age can come with a loss of wonder and excitement towards hobbies compared to when we're kids, I doubt any game ever will. But that just makes Chrono Trigger all the more special. Because it's a game that can make me relive that sense of childhood love for gaming.
Wow what an interesting take. That really struck a cord with me about how as you get older you have a loss of wonder and excitement. All those old games I loved flooded back to me. I enjoy looking at these games from a different perspective as they are near and dear to me and I really decided to create this series to help introduce these classics to a new generation. Some people won't touch a game because they think the graphics suck or they feel older games were "simple". Chrono Trigger is definitely in my top 5 of games. Now I'm curious as to what your top 5 is.
@@ReplayJunky I don't have a fifth to give, but my four favorite games of all time are Chrono Trigger, Thousand Arms, Tales of Symphonia, and Dust: An Elysian Tail. Not all games from childhood, but games that, for one reason or another, spoke to me, or filled me with a sense of enjoyment more profound than any other games when first I played them, regardless of whether or not those other games are objectively better. Alas, as of right now, there's never been a fifth game that achieved that monumental high for me, so there is no game to fill a fifth slot. If I absolutely needed to give a fifth game though, then it would simply be whatever game I'm most in the mood to be playing at this very instant. Because, in a way, whatever game you're most in the mood to play at any given moment could be considered your favorite game in that moment. And for me, at this very moment, that game is Final Fantasy Tactics. But given that criteria, you could ask me the same thing tomorrow, or even in just a few hours, and that game could wind up being completely different.
Interesting top games list, I like it! Have you ever played the Zelda series? For how you described your process, I feel the same way for Zelda Ocarina of Time and Zelda A Link to the Past.
@@ReplayJunky I'm very indifferent when it comes to Zelda. On one hand, I've enjoyed just about every Zelda game I've ever played. On the other hand though, I never enjoy them enough to beat them. I've played several games in the series, but have only ever beaten two of them. Those being Adventure of Link, and Ocarina of Time. And even in the case of Ocarina, I only retained interest in it long enough to beat it because not only myself, but my brother and all my friends were also all playing it at the exact same time. Making it a huge talking point amongst us, which helped keep me invested to the end. Some people might not consider that to be a very big deal. But for me, if I don't beat a game, or at least like a game enough to want to beat it, then I find it hard to justify the money I spent on it, because the game didn't leave me wanting to bother with the full experience. If a game is only an hour long, but I experience that entire hour, then I consider that of greater value than a twenty hour game that I get bored of within ten.
I agree, it's hard to form a positive opinion about something when you don't complete it. It would be like watching 2/3 of a movie and walking out claiming it was the best.
I'll always remember picking up the game used as soon as I found out about it's existence. I want to say in late '95 or early' 96 with Christmas money. With the hundreds of games I've played over the years (maybe thousands actually) I've still yet to play a game as close to perfect as Chrono Trigger, at least in my books. Though my favorite game is still Donkey Kong Country due to replayability of it, however Sifu is a potential contended for both titles. Just need to allow for the distance of time from release (I like 5 years) to confirm if I still feel the same way.
The number score is fine, but I feel like you're selling the combat short in the actual review part by not mentioning the AOE and how they play into the active time nature of the combat with some enemies moving in and out of position of multitarget attacks. Also Crono does randomly speak in one of the joke endings.
@@floatsyourgoats6200 you’re right, the AOE mechanic was interesting and unique for its time. I had it in one of the drafts but I cut it so that’s my fault lol. I heard it was in a joke ending after I made the video lol but main story he doesn’t which can be annoying for some people.
Imho, it's a truly amazing rpg but I've also experiencing truly amazing modern rpgs and refuse to just belittle them due to Chrono's vaunted legacy. That being said, I grew up with the nes and snes so it'll always have a fond place in my heart.
Short answer is yes, because it sets the bar so high. The presentation, pacing, character growth, gameplay, aesthetics, story and characters hold up amazingly well. Its an anime rpg game that doesnt fall into the "geneic looking anime rpg game but solid" title you see in bins. Do other modern rpgs do aspects better? I'm sure. Not modern necessairly but Xenoblade Chronicles X still has the best environments in a cohesive wirld I have still ever seen as an example. But, as an overall package Chrono Trigger is still very much top tier. Sure, been gaming since commodore days (i.e. I'm old) but not blinded by nostalgia. I love Critical Depth and Mask of the Betrayer (to give 2 different game examples) because of nostalgia. Chrono Trigger doesn't have that problem though.
A game like this should be given two ratings, both by category and overall: 1. Rating vs. games at the time 2. Rating if it came out today. Chrono Trigger is probably a 5/5 in most categories for #1, and is still a 4/5 for #2.
Maaaaaan these criticisms are disingenuous. ATB vs ARPG is not an apples to apples comparison. May as well say "This ATB game doesn't have as much action as a modern FPS or racing game." The silent protagonist is a deliberate story decision and was very common at the time for a player insert Character. See Secret of Mana, FF7 etc Backtracking and exploring the time travel changes is like, the whole point of the game. The multiple endings was a huge selling point. Modern games still do that to great succes
@@marquisdan7659 this video was more for a gamer in this generation of gaming, that never played and whether they should give it a chance. Plus highlight things that were great but also things that have not aged well
I just beat chrono trigger for the first time a week ago I'm 34 end I have absolutely no nostalgia goggles for it. And I must say it's pretty friggin awesome. The only thing that sux Is know i have another franchise im a fan of that i wish wasn't dead.
@@chief664 congrats on picking it up and beating it! With all the remakes coming out, I’m glad they left this one alone. What other games are your favorite, now that Chrono Trigger has been added to that list 😆
Now attempt to get all of the endings 😁, they're actually real cool... I bought this game around 1998, and I found a mint condition strategy guide around 7 years later, I still own both, and I even have the game on my pc, ps1, and my phone, aside from the SNES
@@ReplayJunky I grabbed the PS3 version before the store shut down. I think next time I'll try the DS version so I dont have to deal with all the freaking load times.
@@ReplayJunky It's the slideshow ending. Lucca and Marle are talking about several of the NPCs in the game and keep drooling over the hunky ones. Crono shows up and chides them for not taking it seriously. He has one line in the entire game and he uses it to complain 😂
I love CT, but it wasn't even the best RPG on the SNES, much less better than other masterpieces nowadays. Games like FFVI, Lufia II, Live a Live, Fire Emblem 4 (which definitely needs a remake), Final Fantasy Tactics, Xenogears, Tales of the Abyss, Radiant Historia, Breath of Fire III, Shadow Hearts, among many others from different platforms leave it behind. CT is indeed a good package, but there are better games than it that existed before and after CT's release.
@@ReplayJunky absolute true as well. I played CT back then when I was 11 years old and it became one of my favorites for years.... but then I played games like those I mentioned, and despite half of those are truly among my favs I do believe they are better than Trigger.
To begin with, I’d mention how many different covers of “Guardia Millenial Fair” (as one example) there are. People video themselves playing all the parts using various instruments. People playing jazz versions of it. People playing *mariachi* versions of it. One young lady dresses up as Marle and Lucca to play piano versions of some of the songs. The music is popular beyond the game itself-it even has its own separate Wikipedia article. The guy who composed the music was Yasunori Mitsuda. He worked very hard to make the music unique, and I think he succeeded.
@@ReplayJunky that’s true, but it’s kind of a fun Easter egg and the fact that even some fans of the game don’t know about it 30 years later is kind of insane
Always hear how Chrono Trigger is a "must-play" RPG and I think you nailed it as to why. Hopefully with pixel graphics making a return in many games, it encourages newer generations to give it a try since older games sometimes have trouble keeping pace with earning players attentions because of the visuals!
Why is that? Aged graphics, 3D models against 2D backgrounds, horrendous translation, 5 minute summon unskippable cutscenes? lol It holds a special place in my heart but as you can see, there will be a video on this in the future...and it won't be pretty
So FF7 was my first real RPG and introduction to the Final Fantasy series. I may be a fanboy haha, but I definitely recognize and openly talk about its many flaws. FF8's card game was SOOOOO good btw!
So that one would be interesting because that was one of the games I never played as a kid. I'm currently working on FF7 video but I will definitely have to play that and then add it to the list!
Pfft, even Nobuo Uematsu (the guy who composed almost all of the music for the final fantasy series) helped with Chrono Trigger, composing some of the music score... when the original music composer (Yasunori Mitsuda) got sick, he called up Nobuo Uematsu to give him a hand
Man I’m not sure you played the same game I did. Black customization just means that you need to experiment more and learn each characters strengths and weaknesses. There are a lot of different party combination that are better for certain parts of the game and certain bosses and even though the game can be completed with one party you can get yourself in a lot of very frustrating situation by not that and learning about playable characters. New games make everything so customizable that you really don’t have to explore your party and you really can just choose a couple characters and stick to them and that ultimately defeats the entire purpose of having multiple characters to choose from in the first place. In reality you personally chose to stick to just a few characters but I bet you explored more you would’ve had a much more enjoyable experience. Your argument against lack of customization is also an argument against😂🤷🏻♂️
I agree, I found an OP team that just seemed to handle everything very well. It was Chrono, Marle and Frog. For customization, I meant not being able to change character skills. For instance, Magus can't learn any healing spells. But I do agree, that you can make any party you want.
@@ReplayJunky I played that way as a kid but I replayed it a couple years ago and switch things up more and it actually made situation I remember being an absolute struggle way easier. The game isn’t overly difficult but I didn’t remember any bosses so I had to relearn strengths and weaknesses and they really is multiple moments in the game for every character and multiple party combinations that work better than others. I think the simplicity of the game is honestly a breath of fresh air compared to how overly intricate everything is now. You can just pick up and play and enjoy the story and there is just enough customization to make progressing the story of fun and rewarding experience.
I really like to see that you are not biased or a fanboy, unfortunately many people that played this game in their youth treat chrono trigger as some kind of masterpiece with many saying that it's even the best jrpg out there. However even in it's decade we got Dragon Quest 5 (a much better game overall especially in the story department but many didn't play it before it's ds remake that was released out of Japan)we also got final fantasy 5 a much better game Gameplay wise. Chrono trigger isn't bad but using it to put other other games down is just wrong especially when you notice that there are better options there in certain aspects
I'm glad the video came off unbiased, I really like to take that stand even with my favorite games. Chrono Trigger is one of my favorites, but it's important to take that stance when talking objectively for people that might not have played the game.
you probably should establish your criteria for good jrpg, ff5's story and character development cringes me. I'll check dragon quest 5 though, most og dq's are slow burners, but winners.
@@serphence8566 final fantasy 5 still has One of the best job systems ever made and it's quite challenging later on if you don't use broken online builds. The characters while not as great as other mainline titles are okay,the game is more Gameplay focused than other titles and feel like a true adventure
@@ReplayJunky yup,there are more than 20 jobs and all of them are viable(even the thief class helps since many bosses have exclusive weapons that only them can get)white mages are a must and geomancers are quite good here since their attacks don't cost any mp,the balance here is better than final fantasy tactics were most classes are bad or don't work properly(geomancers,mimes,Summoners and white mages) Gameplay wise final fantasy 5 is just great and it makes me want to Replay it all the time.
Getting stuck with a mindset of "This is the best game of all the time" has lead us to countless remakes and 0 risk in creating new stories. I have vivid memories of my favorite games (FFVIII, Tales of Eternia/Phantasia, Megaman X, Metal Gear Solid, Super Contra, Zone of Enders... etc) but there is the thing that I cannot possibly play all the games out there and out there there are some really hidden gems. Also the incoming games as well (avoiding all the DEI and BRIDGE stuff), is just... not possible to keep track with all of them. Having said this, Exploring new stories really brings me joy and whenever someone says that X game is the best of all time I immediately reject that with the aforementioned argument.
That are some great games you listed off! So I try not to say "best of all time" because it's all opinion based. Do I think Chrono Trigger is one of the best, yes. Does it have flaws? Yes. And I 100% agree with remakes, not only with video games but movies as well. Now, I do think every once and awhile it's great to see something get a much need graphic overhaul (Final Fantasy 7) but not for everything. It's one of those reasons why I don't think we'll ever get a remake of Chrono Trigger and personally I don't think anyone wants or is asking for that.
I still think that they need to do a direct sequel to chrono trigger (rather than a remake), especially since neither radical dreamers or chrono cross weren't direct sequels, they're more of a "side story" sequels and it's not even about the original characters but a side characters, and chrono cross does reference the original characters, though only briefly. I think it's only about 2-3 lines of dialogue, and even the side character that chrono cross is about, the person is a child (6-8), instead of the teen that they were when we met them in chrono trigger
@@MrEli768 so how would they go about that since the whole premise is about time travel? The team covered all of time. You’d have to either remake the game and add to it or make a similar game in a different world.
It’s a matter of personal taste, but Chrono Trigger is still one of the best RPGs ever made for me. There are maybe 4 or 5 RPGs that I enjoy more than Chrono trigger, but it still beats most of them, even the modern ones.
@@ReplayJunky FF7 is really good, although I don’t think that it holds up well today. It definitely would benefit from being remastered. My top 5 RPGs would probably be Oblivion, Skyrim, Xenoblade X (unpopular opinion I know), BotW and TotK (If those two games count), and Chrono Trigger.
@@4dojo I’m a huge Zelda fan and this may be an unpopular opinion but BotW didn’t feel like a Zelda game to me. Did I enjoy it at the time, yes. But something about it didn’t hook me like the originals.
@@ReplayJunky I totally get that. It doesn’t really feel like any of the other games in the Zelda series at all. For me I just enjoyed BotW and TotK like they were their own separate franchise. But the classics are still awesome too. Majoras Mask is still one of my favorite games ever made.
@@4dojo for me, A Link to the Past is my favorite followed closely by Ocarina of Time. If you have a second, I made a Nostalgia vs Reality for Ocarina of Time. I recently played it and was one of the reasons I started this series haha.
My biggest issue with this video is you comparing Chrono trigger's combat to combat from "modern rpgs" like Elden Ring, which are in a different subgenre with completely different combat systems. They're not really comparable/it's a bad analogy when you could and should have been comparing CT to modern turn based games like Persona or newer Dragon Quest.
Nostalgia is One hell of a drug,games like disgaea,shin megami tensei devil survivor,persona 2 duology,Dragon Quest 5 and many others have done much more than Chrono trigger with most of them having better stories and Gameplay systems
@@Jeanssj98 Less = more mate. 9 out of 10 games nowadays are ruined by their size and especially their pacing. I'd still take CT and FF6 over pretty much every recent RPG. With a lot of these games at some point I want them to be over.. Already had that with DQ8, later Witcher 3, recently FF16 and 7 Rebirth. Id say Persona 5 kept my attention the best, but the palace dungeons and especially that generic piece of shit Mementos. Kill...me... now. Dreadful game design. Sea of Stars, gorgeous and one of my favorite new 'oldskool designed' games. Still doesn't come close to the grand and epic feel of of CT and FF6.
Might sound a little Hyperbolic, but this video comes off as "Would a modern day COD bro like Chrono Trigger?" Very shallow analysis for every aspect of the game, from the battle system (why would someone wanting to play a menu-based RPG want to be playing an Action RPG?) to the graphics (the implication that pixel art games should be compared to the Witcher), to lack of analysis for the story and characters. Who's this video for? It's not for fans of CT, because it's a surface-level analysis. It's not for potential new players, because the video spoils the game's plot and gives a rather convoluted description of the various mechanics. A new person coming to this video won't know any new information about the game other than spoilers for the plot. There are also some things that are rather untrue about the game's mechanics, such as there being lack of balance between the characters Suggestions: You need to come at this from the perspective of someone that might actually be interested in playing a 2D semi-turn-based RPG. It needs to be compared to those types of games (including more modern ones such as Octopath Traveler or Radiant Historia) The game's entire genre and art style can't be held against it. (Another example being that Crono is a silent protagonist meant to represent the player and that you can't edit him. WTF?). Speak more in-depth about the aspects of this type of game that people care about. Story, dialogue, music (seriously, no mention of the music??). Get a little bit more in-depth into the mechanics and talk about why it is so beloved 29 years after its release (with many calling it the best RPG of all time). Don't do spoilers, but go into WHY people relate to and resonate with the characters and story rather than just saying what they are.
@ReplayJunky If it's just jrpg Top 3 are 3. Dragon quest 5 Ds 2. Bloodborne (goty version) ps4 1. Skies of arcadia legends gamecube. If it's all r p g's Including western it would be different with new vegas being 1.
Snes/PSX turn based RPGS aged well and remain great to this day. Action games from the early 3D era like Tomb Raider and Resident Evil aged badly, mainly to the evolution we saw for games like those.
I think it's safe to say that we may never see another turn-based RPG that uses the Active Time Battle (ATB) system (aside from Final Fantasy 11, Final Fantasy 14, and whatever the Final Fantasy Remake trilogy is).
@@hankzane I agree but I feel that Elden Ring and Chrono Trigger wouldn’t fall under the same category. Yes they are RPGs but then they’re separated into different subcategories. At least that’s my view lol.
I don’t really like these videos where people who played the game when it was new go back and replay it to see if it’s as good as they remember. No matter how “fair” you try to be, the nostalgia goggles are going to be securely stapled to your face. A fairer comparison would be if you took someone who likes RPG video games and is the same age today as you would have been when Chrono Trigger was new, and see if they drop it to go back to modern games. That would be the REAL test. My guess is that they would play it for maybe 3 or 4 hours and never go back to it.
Thank you for the feedback, as of now the games I am choosing are ones that I have played a lot of so I can talk about them with better understanding. I did plan on doing this with other games in later episodes.
If you took half a minute to look through the comments you would see the many comments about "my dad had me play the game and I loved it " "my uncle showef me this game, I don't understand why games aren't like this what happpend" So in short. Your experiment has been done. And you conclusion was wrong. Hope that helped !!
Yup agree. My 13 year old was playing Chrono trigger when the internet was out down here in Florida and the hurricane, and he had plenty of modern games to choose from
@drewn5271 i had my 15 year old. Nephew play this last year. Said graphics sucked but the game was addicting lol I think graphics are nostalgic younger gen don't get that... but everything else is timeless. Story, character design, music, etc.
Chrono wasn't even as good as people remember when it was still relevant in the 90s. It was always a B+ rpg like secret of evermore or illusion of Gaia. It never belonged on the same shelf as ff6 or secret of mana.
Chrono Trigger is one of the most consistently overrated games, not just on the SNES, but of all time. Not only is it not even the best game on the SNES (see: Super Metroid), it's not even the best RPG on the console (Secret of Mana has better gameplay, FFVI has a better story, characters, AND music). It just simply isn't as good as people think it is.
Nah, it really does give FF6 a run for its money and the gameplay of Secret of Mana isn't *that* amazing, to be real. There are a some banger tracks on all 3(especially 6 and CT). Keep in mind that I *love* both of those games. Chrono Trigger is a great game that belongs there with the others. I suspect that either you didn't do much with it or just got to it after those others and after the fanboys talked it up to the point of being annoying.
@@steet2 Not out loud, technically, but there are times where he *clearly* had to say *something* like during the trial It's weird how people who supposedly played the game never picked up on that...
@@InfernosReaper I don't care. Ff6 has better, more dynamic characters and a far more interesting story. I swear to god you chrono trigger people are insufferable, if the main character didn't look like he was from dragonball you probably wouldn't have ever played the game in the first place
@@pc4mlc451 there are tons of better modern rpgs, CT aged a LOT in basically all areas, you can compare it to baldurs gate 3 for example and you will see the HUGE differences
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i'll save everyone eight and a half minutes:
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lol spoiler alert
Knew that without watching it because Chrono Trigger is the perfect game... But I still watched it just in case some blasphemy was had here
@ haha thanks for watching, how’d I do? Do you agree with my points?
You forgot the music. Yasunori Mitsuda easily keeps pace with his coworker at Squaresoft, Nobuo Uematsu, for the quality of his work. One of the best soundtracks ever made, before or since. It's absolutely _phenomenal._
@@Lycanthromancer1 the music is really good, what else would you say about it?
@@ReplayJunky Plenty, if you're going over Mitsuda himself, the events that occurred during the orchestration of the game, varying tracks and how they set the emotional scenes, and how they affected gaming ever since.
@ should have you help me with my next video haha
@@Lycanthromancer1I cant believe the computer the music was on got corrupted and he had to re-write everything from memory in a few months before the game came out.
That frantic lost time feeling worked perfectly in the soundtracks favor since its so closely tied to the story
Wait, I didn't know this. He rewrote everything like months before???
My dad had me play this game because it was his favorite game of all time, and me never having played it before instantly fell in love with the story, gameplay, and art style. Chrono trigger is the rpg of all time (Pun VERY intended,) and I recommend it to every RPG enjoyer I know.
That is awesome! I always recommend this game for someone new getting into the RPG genre!
One of the reasons I go back to Chrono Trigger (and this does apply to a lot of others in the genre, at least in the 16 and 32 bit eras) more than most other JRPGs is the simplicity in the gameplay. You don't need a whole bunch of crafting, cooking, social, romance, etc systems in a game to make it engaging and fun, you just need good foundational mechanics and a solid story.
Take a look at most current JRPGs and how you get bogged down in menus and systems and needless mechanics. If they remade Chrono Trigger in the same vein as FF7, that'd be a huge mistake IMO.
@@danpantzig7266 yea I agree, newer games have too much side stuff and honestly I get bored or just ignore for main story. I also feel newer games (not all) focus heavily on graphics and not enough on story/gameplay.
@@ReplayJunky CT's side stuff is only after getting flying Epoch. It's not mandatory but clearing them will give you extra resources for the final dungeon/boss.
@@wedasantika6079 It's mostly the same stuff every other period JRPG at the time did, a bunch of sidequests to get the Ultimate Weapons for everybody and some ultimate armors. I think FF4 and/or 5 were one of the few "mainstream" JRPGs that didn't do a bunch of optional sidequests for ultimate weapons and armor, instead just stuck them all on pedestals in the final dungeon and let you kill insanely powerful bosses for them.
@@Grounded-Healer satisfies that itch? lol
Aside from time travel, an advanced battle system, incredible character design, even more incredible character, in general, an amazing story, multiple endings and outcomes based on in-game decisions, beautiful graphics, and even more beautiful score, and infinite replayability, is it over rated?
No.
@@treybrannon4964 me personally, I don’t think it’s overrated. But I guess it depends on when you played it. I recommended this to someone who just completed it and he loved it, gave it 4.5 out of 5, while others see it as an older game.
"All right, but apart from sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?" 😂😂😂
I love Lucca. She was my role model as a kid. She's a brilliant engineer and scientist, making time portal manipulation devices and primitive robotics at a time when other people are using swords and crossbows. She's got the immensely powerful Flare, and her double/triple techs are nothing to sneeze at either. Crono may be the player's character, but in my view, Lucca and Marle are closer to the "main character" in terms of personality. Marle represents the righteousness, the idealistic drive to better the world. Whereas Lucca is the tenacious capability to get shit done, to work on a problem with your own two hands.
On top of that, the bad ending, "Day of Lavos" is the most haunting shit I have ever seen in a video game. Even 30ish years later, nothing has topped it for me.
That's awesome Lucca was your role model! I LOVE that!!!
Yea, I can definitely see why you and many others think Lucca and Marle are closer to the main characters than Crono because he doesn't talk, they talk for him. I never really realized this until I went back and did the video and was like, "wait...does Crono ever talk?!"
@@ReplayJunky The "silent protagonist" feels somewhat outdated in the modern era. I understand why it exists, but I do prefer the characters to be distinct than be self-inserts. Frog, Robo, Ayla and Magus are good characters as well, to be sure. Frog, a grieving, humiliated knight trying to regain his humanity and dignity. Robo being a forlorn junk heap who sees how far his kind has fallen from their duties. Ayla being a vibrant and passionate chief, representing the joyful ambition of the human race before it is corrupted. Magus and the misery of a lonely prince having lost everything, stewing in that empty, miserable need for revenge for his entire life, to the point where he would make others go through what he did just to hurt the one who hurt him.
All such iconic characters. And honestly, I think we even get a beautiful moment of characterization in even Chrono, in his heroic moment of determination where he stands alone against Lavos. The culmination of the tragedy that is Chrono Trigger.
Wow, can you write for me for my next video? lol
Yea I have nothing against Crono, just felt hallow compared to the rest.
@@ReplayJunky That depends on what your next video is; Chrono Trigger I got a lotta words on because I've thought about it so much, but if you're covering something I didn't happen to play very much, I'm pretty sure I'd be less useful, haha
Still, I appreciate your video, it's always good to take a critical eye to the classics. Its how you learn what separates them from the ones that are forgotten
That is so nice, thank you for your kind words. I spent way longer than I like to admit making this video...and my Zelda one was even longer...
So, what few games would you like to see next in this type of light? What are your favorites games?
if you think about it the 16-bit consoles sits right about in the middle of the time spectrum where older games (pre 16-bit) just weren't technologically advanced enough to be considered fun & playable today, and newer games (i would say post 64-bit era) rely too much on tech that gameplay design takes a backseat. the 16-bit era is that one time in gaming history where the power & limitations of the hardware was being wonderfully balanced by the ingenuity & creativity of the devs. abundance is really the death of ingenuity
@@renowijoyo I completely agree, newer games focus too much on graphics and gameplay/story suffers sometimes. I think the SNES is one of the best consoles.
There are a few 8-bit games that still are enjoyable such as DQ3, DQ4, and especially Crystalis if you don't mind some visual glitches due to them absolutely pushing the limits of that poor old NES.
Played it again recently, there's no nostalgia blindness with this game its amazing from start to finish, and yes, its legitimately better than anything being put out these days.
I feel that newer games rely too much on graphics and think it will be enough. I blindly bought FF15 because it looked really cool and I was like, well it's a Final Fantasy game how bad could it be...returned it next day
Too many assumptions. Action rpg is already present in that time. People who play chrono trigger type of rpg is because we like the atb
So for people that have heard about Chrono Trigger but never played, how would you rate the game?
@@ReplayJunky It's amazing.
@@ReplayJunky10/10. I played it it 2008 on the nintendo ds so not really nostalgia and even then it entered my top5 of all time.
Chrono Trigger masters what other RPGS dream of in about half the play time.
That's very true, do you think studios just don't want to copy? Like the blueprint is right there
not really, it has aged a LOT
@@Jeanssj98 please let me know what about this game is unplayable compared to a modern game, given the handicap of the system
@@ChazTheYouthful not unplayable but very dated indeed
Chrono Trigger will hold up forever because it plays like a high quality short form shonen anime. The important factor being that it's short, which means that it has very little material that feels like a slog.
A lot of modern day RPGs, even the popular Persona 5, have sections to them that feel like work. Chrono Trigger doesn't have that. Playing through it feels like binge watching a tv show that wraps up in a single season. Honestly, if Dragon Quest 5 came out in the US during the SNES days, people probably would have praised it equally. DQ5 has legendary status in Japan.
I have never heard Chrono Trigger referred to as a short form shonen anime. Being an anime fan myself, that really clicked for me when I read that. Good observation!
Being short is definitely one of Chrono Trigger's strong points. Some people might think that short means bad, because it means less content. But a game like Chrono Trigger, when compared to a lot of longer games, proves that more often than not, longer games are only longer because they're filled with fluff you don't need. Whereas Chrono Trigger is the result of cutting out all that fat, and keeping only the good stuff.
That and having that many multiple endings gives you longer playtime if you wish to see some of the endings.
@@ReplayJunky Which only better complements the game's length. If Chrono Trigger's length was more on par with something like Final Fantasy 6, you'd be far less compelled to want to go through the trouble of seeing all the endings. Instead, that element of replay value plays into the strength of Chrono Trigger's short length to make the task of seeing all the endings less tedious, and more enticing to get more out of the experience.
In my eyes, Chrono Trigger walked so the Persona series could run, but I think Chrono Trigger is a bit more replayable due its swift pacing.
i argue the way chrono trigger did the ATB is superior to how FF series has hangled it, cause the 'wait' option allows while scrolling a menu to actually look through it. a MASSIVE accessability feature for those of us with visual or reading problems like reading speed or dislexia (no i cant spell that right sadly).
That's a great point! I actually enjoyed Chrono Trigger more than FF6 but that's a hot take that will surely enrage people haha
@@ReplayJunky and im speaking AS one of those disabled gamers having played FF6 and chono trigger and am saying it comparing how they handle it. i often got my ass kicked just trying to sort through menus to look for the right item or spell in ff6. and i know you are just making a statement some might get defensive and i just came off as such. im just trying to say i made that statement from a point of view that most just dont have in a world where i keep hearing about faux-accessability demanding games have easy modes when us disabled gamers just want features that allow us to have as close to the same experience as non-disabled gamers
sorry got on a soap box there, its a fucked day for me
@@Lyceaos you’re fine! I was just saying people would be upset that I think CT > FF6. That does bring up an interesting point, games that have an option like you were suggesting. I’d back that up because it allows the player to choose their gaming experience
@@ReplayJunky ah ok i also may have missread what you were saying lol
Putting Baldur's Gate 3 in the fast paced action packed combat is a choice
BG3 was there for customization, the fast paced action was something else
2:25 come on, the combo/triple techs vary, so that is misleading, let alone slurp kiss with frog and Ayla is life insurance (Marle sucks vs haste helms and weaker aura combos ) removing debuffs when Lavos overrides. At least mention when enemy weaknesses force you to change characters (don’t use magus vs Lavos shell as he can’t single target unless maybe grinding techs), with Ayla making the Dalton prison break less tedious as she fights without equipment (and others aren’t allowed despite magic abilities, which makes no sense).
Thank you for the feedback, it was more of an overview of Chrono Trigger and I didn't want to go too deep into it. For myself, I stuck to a certain team unless the game made me include someone else.
@@ReplayJunky oh ok. I did read up on needing gemstones that can be tough to find for triple techs, as well as learning about double cure and cure wave being strong double techs with frog for Marle and Robo, so he definitely makes your game easier once he catches up to power creep with Masamune and its upgrade.
I don’t think I’d just sideline someone, as many other games can have useless characters (though I haven’t really done big damage with Robo, but he does help (except when he lets his former friends jump him and throw him in the trash lol that hurt my brain more than going to jail when unanimously not guilty in trial, though you could sit it out rather than kill the guard at least), rather than situational ones.
For useless characters,Final fantasy tactics has a ton of (knight, archer and thief are generally painful stepping stones for better classes they unlock, with bard/dancer doing too little too late with slow stat manipulation/buffs that miss half the time) that need you to grind more than what advanced class generics have at that time, like Cloud, Marach, Rapha, Mustadio and Agrias (Reis if you don’t know her passives the game doesn’t explain nor collect 900 JP for holy breath).
Though Mustadio and Agrias have good evasion and decent magic attack (Mustadio can use robes) if you don’t use them primarily for their default job abilities, which can miss or do low damage compared to iaido, arcane strength, or dual wield (or even geomancer’s attack boost with a bow). RNG did make for a ton of creative content at least.
I also think of ff4 with Cid and the slow Mysidia twincast for being useless, so you can do way worse than CT abilities, Never imagined I’d say that. Thanks for your reply to make me explain my scale.
So I wouldn't call the characters useless in Chrono Trigger, just some party combos are inherently stronger than other combos. Then it comes down to playstyle, what you as the player values in a party and who you want to see more of. My favorite combo was Crono, Frog and Marle and I felt that was the most well rounded party.
@ReplayJunky Frog helps every party 🥳 though no way I'll figure out all those chrono cross recruiting steps for his Glenn counterpart 🤣.
Also remember that support magic doesn't miss unlike ff2 (before pixel remaster) and fft 🤬.
I got a permanent haste vid with Marle to make Magus child's play 🤣, will see if it links (nah, just search boring magus battle, though youtube sometimes delays comments). I was dumbfounded as I thought he was tough as a kid. Wonder if new games can be cheesed similarly with bipolar punch out puzzle disguised difficulty.
It doesnt just hold up. It's still an inspiration for many different rpgs. Most recently sea of stars.
I heard really good things about Sea of Stars, have you played it yet?
It was ahead of its time. 😅 When you play something, it has a lot to do with how you hold it in your heart. When you're waiting all day for school to be done with so you can get back to what really matters.
So did you first play it closer to when it was released or recently?
Having played it back in 95 when it released, every aspect of it back then was mind blowing, the graphics, the story, the music, it was a perfect balance, not an overly complex story and the difficulty was gradual. If you compare today with modern RPG's the game still holds up in every aspect and you could say the graphics are charming with their style.
@@greyfox4577 I feel there was something different back then, I had a larger desire to not just beat the game but complete all the side quests and look for secrets. I didn’t do all the endings but I did try a few of them.
@@ReplayJunky Yeah same here because at the time for me there was no other game with everything CT had to offer, i think for me it was the first game with multiple endings. And on every plathrough i would find new items or other secret areas i missed that just made me want to play through it again. The one major thing that kept me coming back to it was the music since there was no other place to experience it other than in the game.
Even back then it was considered god tier. Even before it's released the game was already legendary.
Chrono Trigger will always have a special place in my heart... Going to the store to get Donkey Kong Country 2 for my 13th (or something) birthday. Then the employee convinced me to get this weird US import game + adapter for 250,- guilders (no euro back then lol), while DKC2 was 160,- ... I did not know Jrpgs or Squaresoft at all.
CT became my favorite game of all time, Jrpgs my favorite genre and I played as many as I could on SNES, PS1 and so on.
Played through both CT and FF6 dozens of times and I just started with CT on SNES Mini. While I actually have to finish that Elden Ring DLC....
Donkey Kong Country 2 was the best in the series so I hope you got that as well at some point haha!
Wow that takes me back, I did the same thing for DBZ imported games for the Playstation 1. I would have to attach a mod device to it, load a PS1 game but then take the game out and replace it with the imported game in order to play it.
I didn't know they did that for SNES games too! Glad you got to experience Chrono Trigger though!
@@ReplayJunky definitely! Less life changing but gotta love those DKCs. Also two new ones. Especialy Tropical Freeze. Thats how you bring a franchise back.
@@TylerNessss I never played Tropical Freeze, is it that good?
@@ReplayJunky imo one of the best 2D platformers ever. Looks great, excellent controls, great level design, amazing David Wise soundtrack and also some secrets/extras to discover.
Must play if you like platformers
Just subbed. Yet again, the algorithm delivered good content on my recommended. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it, any game you might want to see next? Making a list haha
@@ReplayJunky There's this game that I'll be beating soon. It's called Sea of Stars. Fantastic game and I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Ohhh I heard about that game, it's that good?
@@ReplayJunky Absolutely. The gameplay reminds me of chrono trigger or Breath of fire.
@@HamZero Oh hell yea! I'll definitely have to check that out! Thanks!
Giving Chrono Trigger a 4/5 is an insult. This is a 5/5 masterpiece. Not many games ever made can claim to be better. You also didn’t mention the absolutely flawless soundtrack that I play to this day
@@iLLWiLLx21 so do you think if they released the game today that it would still be 5/5?
Currently in the middle of my millionth playthrough. I was 10 when this game first came out and I can say pretty confidently that its my second most replayed to completion game, right behind the Mass Effect trilogy (No, I dont count the 4th).
Maybe its nostalgia but I dont care. Ill keep wearing those zesty glasses. The game is an absolute masterpiece.
@@JesusSaves5500 that is awesome! So do you think my rating was fair for the game and did you agree with my points?
@@ReplayJunky I agree completely. Especially about the ATB. Most of, if not all modern RPGs have shifted more towards a more action RPG feel with maybe a little hint of the old ways. I'm one of the people who grew away from Final Fantasy after the shift with, I think it was XI? With Lightning or whatever her name was? I preferred the old combat style and when square really dug their heels in with XII I was out completely.
I'm only just going back now and playing FFVII Crisis Core because I disliked the decision to move away from the "normal", slower combat styles so much. Come to find out so many years later that it's actually not that bad lol
So for people that get their adrenaline kicks out of high octane action I can see why a game like Chrono Trigger may not do it for them.
Everything else is fair. Pixel art is still beautiful, the combat system is great. So many things about this game was revolutionary... for it's time. And that's the whole point, things dont stay revolutionary forever.
I kinda went off the rails a little bit there but to answer your question more directly; absolutely. It was a very fair and balanced take.
Two friends and myself who grew up in this era, and also played and loved all the old RPGs from Final Fantasy to OG Dragon Warrior, and Breath of Fire, to even more obscure ones, like 7th Saga, somehow all missed Chrono Trigger. We all tried it later separately many years later after the hype, and we all concluded that we didn't like it. There was something about the gameplay that didn't resonate with any of us, maybe it was the status effects, or the way the game handled progression, but all of us had a negative opinion. We didn't have any bias going in, nor did we converse about our own experiences with it, we just wanted to play a game that we never got around to when we were younger. I find it interesting that this game still sits so highly on people's lists, but maybe we're just outliers. I'm not sure I'll ever try it again, and see if I had the wrong opinion of it, but it amazes me that three gamers who were well accustomed to this genre all had the same situation and opinion. I wonder what it would have been like for us if we played it during its era.
@@captdude81 that is very interesting. I do wonder if you heard nothing about the game if you’d still have the same reaction. It’s like hearing a movie is so good and having super high expectations only for it to disappoint. I heard good things about the game later in life as well but I really enjoyed it. Time travel has always been an interest for me. I do appreciate you and your friends giving a game like this a fair try. A game I never played was super Metroid for SNES and I wonder how I would feel about that game playing it now.
I remember when i saw the game advertised in Toys R' Us a few months before it released, i had never played any Final fantasy game nor even knew anything about Squaresoft but the display of it just made me dream about the game and said i want this game since i had never seen anything like it before.
When it released i immediately bought it and i loved everything about it except combat since i thought it was going to be closer to a zelda game and not that weird combat system i had never seen before. After some time i learnt to love it and ever since one of my favorites.
The problem with a lot of people that play games many years after they release is, imagine they give you an atari 2600 with a game that was great when it released back in early 80s. There is no way nothing from that game would impress you if you play it today but had you played it back then when it was the latest, then your opinion might be different.
I have suffered from this on many many games that i never even knew existed when they released, and then i play them many years later, they might have excellent reviews but somehow since the technology is outdated it is hard to experience and appreciate it as someone who did when the game was the latest in gaming.
@@greyfox4577 I think the sprite animation helps with the age since newer games are using it. It isn’t as jarring as say something from the N64
@@ReplayJunky Yeah sprite animation just gives it a retro style but still looks good vs say a game like FF7 and Resident Evil where it was mostly prerendered backgrounds and polygons, even though they are newer they did not age well in my opinion.
I hope to live long enough and play the modern remake version of this masterpiece
@@PapaRocks13 now would you want a shot for shot remake or a retelling?
@ReplayJunky great question. I never thought of that before. Hmmm, I want what SquareEnix did to Final Fantasy VII, remaking the game with modern graphics, but adding more in-depth & dramatic stories.
@@PapaRocks13 so FF7 is my favorite game and I was really looking for a shot for shot remake. I liked the addition of some side stories like Jessie's but I didn't like how they started changing the narrative. Rebirth has been more enjoyable for me though now that I'm just enjoying the game and not focused on story as much.
I replay this about once a decade and just finished my first playthrough of the nintendo DS version. Still a great game. I prefer the SNES version though. The DS has extra content e.g. The Lost Sanctum, which is neat, but kind of ended up being too repetitive to be very fun.
I replay FF7 the same way! I did enjoy the DS version but I agree, the extra stuff at first is nice but just fluff.
I hate it when people complain about turn-based or ATB combat comparing them to ARPGs.... I would argue that ARPGs are the reason behind why nobody has an attention span anymore. People are over-stimulated and impatient. I was just playing CT just a few weeks ago and it was just as fun as I remember it. But then, I tend to not get into button mashy "JRPGs" either. I find that mashing a button or even three buttons repeatedly just doesn't do it for me. I'll make an exception for Tales of Berseria because well, Velvet is fun AF to play as because of her flashy moves and how badass she looks, sounds, and feels to play as. Otherwise, I tend to get bored with button mashy games rather quickly. Turn-based and ATB combat is fine.
I agree with this, I like ATB in RPGs because it gives me total control over all my characters instead of 1 character and 2 others controlled by AI.
Chrono Trigger is absolutele perfection and make modern games look stupid.
The planets aligned, it was the dream team, the right time, toriyama sakagushi and horii their peak, and mistuda was a genius pick.
@@Soldano999 perfection might be a little strong, but I think it’s very good!
Man, I hope you have a video covering Xenogears. That’s a real masterpiece. FFVII, VIII, and IX are also fantastic.
@@Silo1776 I’m actually working on FF7 as my next video! It’s a longer one so taking me extra time. Hopefully will be up next week!
@@ReplayJunky Awesome! Are you going to tie it into the remake or just cover the original? I’ve played the original and the first installment of the remake. Remake is amazing, but still lacks the magic of the first one. I chalk that up to nostalgia. If you don’t mind playing old games I highly recommend Xenogears. It also has anime cut scenes and a similar play style to Crono Trigger.
@@Silo1776 it’s going to be the original, but I’m going to pull slightly from Advent Children and Crisis Core to explain a few things since the original doesn’t explain well. Remake was good but Rebirth is better. For me I wanted a shot for shot remake lol. Once I got over they weren’t doing that, I enjoyed the games a lot more. I was just talking about how even though the remakes were great, they don’t have the same replayability for me. You’re also not the first one in the comments to suggest xenogears so will definitely have to try it!
@@ReplayJunky It’s mental. Definitely give it a go.
Only played briefly but can say it still holds up. Nice work brother
It's a really good game and I highly recommend a playthrough!
We give this video 7/10 epochs today, 10/7 a few hundred years ago!
Only 7/10 for the video? lol 🤣
@@ReplayJunky I didn't want to come off as a fanboy 😎
It is better than modern RPGs , I’ve played all kinds of RPGs from chrono trigger to skyrim to souls games and i still find chrono trigger much much better than all of them , and no its not nostalgia because I played the game in around 2019
so that is the question and purpose of these videos, if great games back in the day still hold up to today's standards (ie: they're playable today) Glad you picked it up and played it!
There's an reason why Chrono Trigger still holds up remarkably well. The gameplay was simple, yet compelling, the story isn't complicated, yet still engaging to see what happens, it introduced seeing enemies in the world rather than being random encounters and the pacing was nice & fluid without any padding. Combined with memorable characters & awesome soundtrack, Chrono Trigger is an all time classic.
@@jaretco6423 that is the perfect summary for Chrono Trigger. I absolutely love the game
I don't agree, its still a 10/10, pacing, gameplay, sound effects/music, story, and fun factor along with replay-ability still rival all modern RPGs and generally outpace them, you would need to go into a game like BG3 to find something comparable.
Even new game plus that was basically invented by Chrono Trigger is still generally not done right nowadays. Most games that try new game plus have the exact same game but you start over with your gear and there is no difference between playthroughs. The only recent title that actually has new content on NG+ playthroughs is Armored Core 6.
You make some good points and I love discussions like this. Chrono Trigger is one of my favorite games of all time. But I do think if looked at objectively that newer players to the game might have a different opinion on. For games like this that I grew up on, I can go back and play and thoroughly enjoy and nostalgia plays a big role in it. But if someone recommends a game from that generation that I didn't play as a kid, how would my opinion alter? Curious, when did you first play CT and what game from that era did you not play that is well received?
For me, it doesn't really matter whether or not it's better than modern RPGs. In fact, looking at it with my modern mindset of what I enjoy about RPGs, Chrono Trigger has a lot missing. For example, as I've gotten older, I've gained more of an appreciation of utilizing more elaborate tactics than just hitting and healing, such as utilizing status effects, and other more technical skills. Something which Chrono Trigger is seriously lacking.
I could go on, but anything negative I have to say about it really doesn't matter, nor does it matter whether or not Chrono Trigger stands the test of time. Because regardless of any of that, it remains my favorite game of all time. Not because of how much I like it today, but because of how much I loved it as a kid in relation to any other game I've ever played in my life before, or since. Does that mean it's my favorite game because of nostalgia? Absolutely. But my point is that no game I've ever played has made me fall in love with it to nearly the same degree as Chrono Trigger did when I first played it. And given how age can come with a loss of wonder and excitement towards hobbies compared to when we're kids, I doubt any game ever will. But that just makes Chrono Trigger all the more special. Because it's a game that can make me relive that sense of childhood love for gaming.
Wow what an interesting take. That really struck a cord with me about how as you get older you have a loss of wonder and excitement. All those old games I loved flooded back to me. I enjoy looking at these games from a different perspective as they are near and dear to me and I really decided to create this series to help introduce these classics to a new generation. Some people won't touch a game because they think the graphics suck or they feel older games were "simple". Chrono Trigger is definitely in my top 5 of games. Now I'm curious as to what your top 5 is.
@@ReplayJunky I don't have a fifth to give, but my four favorite games of all time are Chrono Trigger, Thousand Arms, Tales of Symphonia, and Dust: An Elysian Tail. Not all games from childhood, but games that, for one reason or another, spoke to me, or filled me with a sense of enjoyment more profound than any other games when first I played them, regardless of whether or not those other games are objectively better. Alas, as of right now, there's never been a fifth game that achieved that monumental high for me, so there is no game to fill a fifth slot.
If I absolutely needed to give a fifth game though, then it would simply be whatever game I'm most in the mood to be playing at this very instant. Because, in a way, whatever game you're most in the mood to play at any given moment could be considered your favorite game in that moment. And for me, at this very moment, that game is Final Fantasy Tactics. But given that criteria, you could ask me the same thing tomorrow, or even in just a few hours, and that game could wind up being completely different.
Interesting top games list, I like it! Have you ever played the Zelda series? For how you described your process, I feel the same way for Zelda Ocarina of Time and Zelda A Link to the Past.
@@ReplayJunky I'm very indifferent when it comes to Zelda. On one hand, I've enjoyed just about every Zelda game I've ever played. On the other hand though, I never enjoy them enough to beat them. I've played several games in the series, but have only ever beaten two of them. Those being Adventure of Link, and Ocarina of Time. And even in the case of Ocarina, I only retained interest in it long enough to beat it because not only myself, but my brother and all my friends were also all playing it at the exact same time. Making it a huge talking point amongst us, which helped keep me invested to the end.
Some people might not consider that to be a very big deal. But for me, if I don't beat a game, or at least like a game enough to want to beat it, then I find it hard to justify the money I spent on it, because the game didn't leave me wanting to bother with the full experience. If a game is only an hour long, but I experience that entire hour, then I consider that of greater value than a twenty hour game that I get bored of within ten.
I agree, it's hard to form a positive opinion about something when you don't complete it. It would be like watching 2/3 of a movie and walking out claiming it was the best.
I'll always remember picking up the game used as soon as I found out about it's existence. I want to say in late '95 or early' 96 with Christmas money.
With the hundreds of games I've played over the years (maybe thousands actually) I've still yet to play a game as close to perfect as Chrono Trigger, at least in my books. Though my favorite game is still Donkey Kong Country due to replayability of it, however Sifu is a potential contended for both titles. Just need to allow for the distance of time from release (I like 5 years) to confirm if I still feel the same way.
@@Ty-douken yea, Chrono Trigger definitely leaves a lasting impression. For me the only game that surpassed it was FF7
The number score is fine, but I feel like you're selling the combat short in the actual review part by not mentioning the AOE and how they play into the active time nature of the combat with some enemies moving in and out of position of multitarget attacks.
Also Crono does randomly speak in one of the joke endings.
@@floatsyourgoats6200 you’re right, the AOE mechanic was interesting and unique for its time. I had it in one of the drafts but I cut it so that’s my fault lol.
I heard it was in a joke ending after I made the video lol but main story he doesn’t which can be annoying for some people.
The game is too easy for that too matter all things considered.
Imho, it's a truly amazing rpg but I've also experiencing truly amazing modern rpgs and refuse to just belittle them due to Chrono's vaunted legacy. That being said, I grew up with the nes and snes so it'll always have a fond place in my heart.
Same! NES was my first system.
How do you feel about A Link to the Past?
Yes but the LAST remake of it DS was in 2008 so even THAT version really COULD use a PS4 PS5 Switch PORT of it.
So the question I have for you is a port or a REMAKE! lol
@@ReplayJunkythe DS version is 100% a port, albeit heavily retooled for the hardware
@@geoffreychauvin1474, I'm pretty sure the mobile version is a port of the DS port, but the mobile version is native controller compatible
It is but I'll never play Mobile/IOS/Android ports of games.
Short answer is yes, because it sets the bar so high.
The presentation, pacing, character growth, gameplay, aesthetics, story and characters hold up amazingly well.
Its an anime rpg game that doesnt fall into the "geneic looking anime rpg game but solid" title you see in bins.
Do other modern rpgs do aspects better? I'm sure.
Not modern necessairly but Xenoblade Chronicles X still has the best environments in a cohesive wirld I have still ever seen as an example.
But, as an overall package Chrono Trigger is still very much top tier.
Sure, been gaming since commodore days (i.e. I'm old) but not blinded by nostalgia.
I love Critical Depth and Mask of the Betrayer (to give 2 different game examples) because of nostalgia. Chrono Trigger doesn't have that problem though.
I still think it does hold up and set some bars for good RPGs. WOW a Commodore... mine was the NES
A game like this should be given two ratings, both by category and overall:
1. Rating vs. games at the time
2. Rating if it came out today.
Chrono Trigger is probably a 5/5 in most categories for #1, and is still a 4/5 for #2.
oooo that's a great IDEA! Going to have to change the format, thanks for the input!
Yes it’s better than all modern games. It’s the best game ever made. Been chasing this dragon since 95’ Nothing will ever live up to it.
@@hugbuzzard haha I love the line “been chasing this dragon” it’s the best time travel game I’ve played too
Maaaaaan these criticisms are disingenuous.
ATB vs ARPG is not an apples to apples comparison. May as well say "This ATB game doesn't have as much action as a modern FPS or racing game."
The silent protagonist is a deliberate story decision and was very common at the time for a player insert Character. See Secret of Mana, FF7 etc
Backtracking and exploring the time travel changes is like, the whole point of the game.
The multiple endings was a huge selling point. Modern games still do that to great succes
@@marquisdan7659 this video was more for a gamer in this generation of gaming, that never played and whether they should give it a chance. Plus highlight things that were great but also things that have not aged well
I love this game. I got it when it came out, and I was instantly hooked. It really is a Masterpiece. I think I'll go home and play it again.
@@Robert-bm2jr did you try the 3DS version? Extra side quests at the end game
I just beat chrono trigger for the first time a week ago I'm 34 end I have absolutely no nostalgia goggles for it. And I must say it's pretty friggin awesome. The only thing that sux Is know i have another franchise im a fan of that i wish wasn't dead.
@@chief664 congrats on picking it up and beating it! With all the remakes coming out, I’m glad they left this one alone. What other games are your favorite, now that Chrono Trigger has been added to that list 😆
Now attempt to get all of the endings 😁, they're actually real cool... I bought this game around 1998, and I found a mint condition strategy guide around 7 years later, I still own both, and I even have the game on my pc, ps1, and my phone, aside from the SNES
That's awesome! I love the strategy guide addition! I own the SNES cartridge, the Nintendo 3DS and on Steam.
@@ReplayJunky I grabbed the PS3 version before the store shut down. I think next time I'll try the DS version so I dont have to deal with all the freaking load times.
@@chief664 I’m not sure about other ports but I do know the 3DS version has additional side quests at end game if that helps sway you even more lol
Greatest RPG of all time... Greatest SNES game of all time... Best pound for pound game of all time.
@@Chad-Dion SNES is probably the best system imo
@@ReplayJunky Pound for Pound... Yep , Wasnt about flashy over the top graphics... It was about game play.
@ for me it has some of the greatest of all times: Zelda, Super Mario World, Chrono Trigger
It ran its course. Now it's just a distant memory.
@@iamreiver would you go back and play it again?
Teeeechnically Crono talks in one of the endings
What?! No way hahaha I don't count it! Which ending, now I have to look that up lol
@@ReplayJunky It's the slideshow ending. Lucca and Marle are talking about several of the NPCs in the game and keep drooling over the hunky ones.
Crono shows up and chides them for not taking it seriously.
He has one line in the entire game and he uses it to complain 😂
HAHAHA the fact that he uses that one time to complain is amazing!!!
I love CT, but it wasn't even the best RPG on the SNES, much less better than other masterpieces nowadays.
Games like FFVI, Lufia II, Live a Live, Fire Emblem 4 (which definitely needs a remake), Final Fantasy Tactics, Xenogears, Tales of the Abyss, Radiant Historia, Breath of Fire III, Shadow Hearts, among many others from different platforms leave it behind.
CT is indeed a good package, but there are better games than it that existed before and after CT's release.
@@ignaciomurua7704 that is quite a list. I think it also comes down to what you were exposed to. I didn’t play some of those games until later on.
@@ReplayJunky absolute true as well.
I played CT back then when I was 11 years old and it became one of my favorites for years.... but then I played games like those I mentioned, and despite half of those are truly among my favs I do believe they are better than Trigger.
This review never mentions the amazing music, which should push that score up to at least 4.5 out of 5.
The music is really good, wasn't sure if it deserved its own category. What else would you say about the music?
To begin with, I’d mention how many different covers of “Guardia Millenial Fair” (as one example) there are.
People video themselves playing all the parts using various instruments. People playing jazz versions of it. People playing *mariachi* versions of it.
One young lady dresses up as Marle and Lucca to play piano versions of some of the songs.
The music is popular beyond the game itself-it even has its own separate Wikipedia article.
The guy who composed the music was Yasunori Mitsuda. He worked very hard to make the music unique, and I think he succeeded.
@@cavalier973 you’re hired!!! Help me work on my next video lol
6:49 Crono DOES have a line of dialogue in this game. You must not have fully completed it…
Yea I did hear about that after the video, but to be fair it wasn't in the main story haha. Good catch though!
@@ReplayJunky that’s true, but it’s kind of a fun Easter egg and the fact that even some fans of the game don’t know about it 30 years later is kind of insane
@@enigmazero8624 doesn't have something to do with people speaking for him? haha
@@ReplayJunky oh no, he speaks for himself.
@@enigmazero8624 that’s awesome!
Ummm, why arent you crediting Toriyamas work on Dragon Quest in the intro? 🤔
He's in the picture next to the Dragon Quest logo lol
@@ReplayJunky a lot of people aren't watching TH-cam videos, they're listening to them while doing something else. 👍
Ah that's fair, I'll keep that in mind going forward!
Always hear how Chrono Trigger is a "must-play" RPG and I think you nailed it as to why. Hopefully with pixel graphics making a return in many games, it encourages newer generations to give it a try since older games sometimes have trouble keeping pace with earning players attentions because of the visuals!
It is definitely one of my favorites of all time, right behind FF7. It is definitely worth the playthrough!
@@ReplayJunky you lost me at FFVII.
Why is that? Aged graphics, 3D models against 2D backgrounds, horrendous translation, 5 minute summon unskippable cutscenes? lol It holds a special place in my heart but as you can see, there will be a video on this in the future...and it won't be pretty
@@ReplayJunky FFVIII holds much more value, specially as an adult. But there is no argue against fanboyism, which FFVII is very well known for.
So FF7 was my first real RPG and introduction to the Final Fantasy series. I may be a fanboy haha, but I definitely recognize and openly talk about its many flaws. FF8's card game was SOOOOO good btw!
love to see you tackle super metroid
So that one would be interesting because that was one of the games I never played as a kid. I'm currently working on FF7 video but I will definitely have to play that and then add it to the list!
yes, yes it is. Mechanics, Time Travel, Cross Attacks. 🤠 And Akira Toriyama!!
@@viciousrich it was a recipe for greatness!!!
Pfft, even Nobuo Uematsu (the guy who composed almost all of the music for the final fantasy series) helped with Chrono Trigger, composing some of the music score... when the original music composer (Yasunori Mitsuda) got sick, he called up Nobuo Uematsu to give him a hand
@@MrEli768 oh that’s interesting, I didn’t know that. Honestly, the game did well with all the talent that backed it.
I'm here for Frog man's redemption arc 🤣🐸
Depends on how you play the game lol, different endings and all 😄
Man I’m not sure you played the same game I did. Black customization just means that you need to experiment more and learn each characters strengths and weaknesses. There are a lot of different party combination that are better for certain parts of the game and certain bosses and even though the game can be completed with one party you can get yourself in a lot of very frustrating situation by not that and learning about playable characters. New games make everything so customizable that you really don’t have to explore your party and you really can just choose a couple characters and stick to them and that ultimately defeats the entire purpose of having multiple characters to choose from in the first place. In reality you personally chose to stick to just a few characters but I bet you explored more you would’ve had a much more enjoyable experience. Your argument against lack of customization is also an argument against😂🤷🏻♂️
I agree, I found an OP team that just seemed to handle everything very well. It was Chrono, Marle and Frog. For customization, I meant not being able to change character skills. For instance, Magus can't learn any healing spells. But I do agree, that you can make any party you want.
@@ReplayJunky I played that way as a kid but I replayed it a couple years ago and switch things up more and it actually made situation I remember being an absolute struggle way easier. The game isn’t overly difficult but I didn’t remember any bosses so I had to relearn strengths and weaknesses and they really is multiple moments in the game for every character and multiple party combinations that work better than others. I think the simplicity of the game is honestly a breath of fresh air compared to how overly intricate everything is now. You can just pick up and play and enjoy the story and there is just enough customization to make progressing the story of fun and rewarding experience.
@@ReplayJunky I’m obviously bias though. It’s my favorite game of all time😂
@@jellyc4164 haha that's fair! I'm the same way with FF7. But I'm currently making the next video on FF7 and it's killing me being so critical haha
I prefer FF6. when placed side by side, FF6 just looks longer, deeper, and more sophisticated.
@@OMEGAID181 FF6 is really good as well. I know Chrono Trigger and shorter so easier to pick up and play through from time to time
didn't watch, played it recently. The answer is yes. Godlike RPG.
So I would be interesting to see what your take is and if we agree on the things I discussed. It is a great game btw
I really like to see that you are not biased or a fanboy, unfortunately many people that played this game in their youth treat chrono trigger as some kind of masterpiece with many saying that it's even the best jrpg out there.
However even in it's decade we got Dragon Quest 5 (a much better game overall especially in the story department but many didn't play it before it's ds remake that was released out of Japan)we also got final fantasy 5 a much better game Gameplay wise.
Chrono trigger isn't bad but using it to put other other games down is just wrong especially when you notice that there are better options there in certain aspects
I'm glad the video came off unbiased, I really like to take that stand even with my favorite games. Chrono Trigger is one of my favorites, but it's important to take that stance when talking objectively for people that might not have played the game.
you probably should establish your criteria for good jrpg, ff5's story and character development cringes me.
I'll check dragon quest 5 though, most og dq's are slow burners, but winners.
@@serphence8566 final fantasy 5 still has One of the best job systems ever made and it's quite challenging later on if you don't use broken online builds.
The characters while not as great as other mainline titles are okay,the game is more Gameplay focused than other titles and feel like a true adventure
I think I played FF5, I remember the job system being pretty cool. You could make any character whatever you want, right?
@@ReplayJunky yup,there are more than 20 jobs and all of them are viable(even the thief class helps since many bosses have exclusive weapons that only them can get)white mages are a must and geomancers are quite good here since their attacks don't cost any mp,the balance here is better than final fantasy tactics were most classes are bad or don't work properly(geomancers,mimes,Summoners and white mages)
Gameplay wise final fantasy 5 is just great and it makes me want to Replay it all the time.
Getting stuck with a mindset of "This is the best game of all the time" has lead us to countless remakes and 0 risk in creating new stories. I have vivid memories of my favorite games (FFVIII, Tales of Eternia/Phantasia, Megaman X, Metal Gear Solid, Super Contra, Zone of Enders... etc) but there is the thing that I cannot possibly play all the games out there and out there there are some really hidden gems. Also the incoming games as well (avoiding all the DEI and BRIDGE stuff), is just... not possible to keep track with all of them. Having said this, Exploring new stories really brings me joy and whenever someone says that X game is the best of all time I immediately reject that with the aforementioned argument.
That are some great games you listed off! So I try not to say "best of all time" because it's all opinion based. Do I think Chrono Trigger is one of the best, yes. Does it have flaws? Yes. And I 100% agree with remakes, not only with video games but movies as well. Now, I do think every once and awhile it's great to see something get a much need graphic overhaul (Final Fantasy 7) but not for everything. It's one of those reasons why I don't think we'll ever get a remake of Chrono Trigger and personally I don't think anyone wants or is asking for that.
I still think that they need to do a direct sequel to chrono trigger (rather than a remake), especially since neither radical dreamers or chrono cross weren't direct sequels, they're more of a "side story" sequels and it's not even about the original characters but a side characters, and chrono cross does reference the original characters, though only briefly. I think it's only about 2-3 lines of dialogue, and even the side character that chrono cross is about, the person is a child (6-8), instead of the teen that they were when we met them in chrono trigger
@@MrEli768 so how would they go about that since the whole premise is about time travel? The team covered all of time.
You’d have to either remake the game and add to it or make a similar game in a different world.
It’s a matter of personal taste, but Chrono Trigger is still one of the best RPGs ever made for me. There are maybe 4 or 5 RPGs that I enjoy more than Chrono trigger, but it still beats most of them, even the modern ones.
For me, Chrono Trigger is 2nd behind Final Fantasy 7. What are the RPGs that are above Chrono Trigger for you?
@@ReplayJunky FF7 is really good, although I don’t think that it holds up well today. It definitely would benefit from being remastered. My top 5 RPGs would probably be Oblivion, Skyrim, Xenoblade X (unpopular opinion I know), BotW and TotK (If those two games count), and Chrono Trigger.
@@4dojo I’m a huge Zelda fan and this may be an unpopular opinion but BotW didn’t feel like a Zelda game to me. Did I enjoy it at the time, yes. But something about it didn’t hook me like the originals.
@@ReplayJunky I totally get that. It doesn’t really feel like any of the other games in the Zelda series at all. For me I just enjoyed BotW and TotK like they were their own separate franchise. But the classics are still awesome too. Majoras Mask is still one of my favorite games ever made.
@@4dojo for me, A Link to the Past is my favorite followed closely by Ocarina of Time. If you have a second, I made a Nostalgia vs Reality for Ocarina of Time. I recently played it and was one of the reasons I started this series haha.
My biggest issue with this video is you comparing Chrono trigger's combat to combat from "modern rpgs" like Elden Ring, which are in a different subgenre with completely different combat systems. They're not really comparable/it's a bad analogy when you could and should have been comparing CT to modern turn based games like Persona or newer Dragon Quest.
@@baixiaolang that’s a fair point, but I never played persona or dragon quest. I’ll definitely keep that in mind moving forward! Thank you
Is it better than any other RPG? Yes, yes it is. Check any top 10/25/50/100 games of all time and Chrono Trigger is ALWAYS on the list 🎉
Yea it really is one of the best!
thats because nostalgia, if you analize the game deeply and compare it to nowadays games it lacks a LOT
@@Jeanssj98 yea, the game is relatively short comparing to other RPGs
Nostalgia is One hell of a drug,games like disgaea,shin megami tensei devil survivor,persona 2 duology,Dragon Quest 5 and many others have done much more than Chrono trigger with most of them having better stories and Gameplay systems
@@Jeanssj98 Less = more mate. 9 out of 10 games nowadays are ruined by their size and especially their pacing. I'd still take CT and FF6 over pretty much every recent RPG. With a lot of these games at some point I want them to be over.. Already had that with DQ8, later Witcher 3, recently FF16 and 7 Rebirth. Id say Persona 5 kept my attention the best, but the palace dungeons and especially that generic piece of shit Mementos. Kill...me... now. Dreadful game design. Sea of Stars, gorgeous and one of my favorite new 'oldskool designed' games. Still doesn't come close to the grand and epic feel of of CT and FF6.
Do be real,you really need to do 2 runs to get all the endings. First to get Newgame+ and the second to do all the other endings
Yea for a game like Chrono Trigger, when you find out there are multiple endings you're like, ok I'm down for another go. At least once haha
Dang, Chrono Trigger is 29 years old...
Tell me about it...lol
Dawg, this video was neat af.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Yes
Agreed lol
Fax me some halibut
People still have faxes? lol
Dude this brought me back when me and my brother had to share the Snes beacuse he had FF6 and I had Chrono Trigger lol.
@@ChristopherPeck-ot4zf omg what a sibling DIVIDE! Hahaha
Which did you prefer?
@@ReplayJunky as I am older now ff6 for the darker story but CT will always be special in my heart!
@@ChristopherPeck-ot4zf yea…Kefka was a thing lol
@@ReplayJunky Na it was all about suplex-ing a train.
yea....what a meme lol
its great, but its sequel is simply amazing.
@@old_liquid are you referring to Chrono Cross?
Yes.
Yes!
Homer knocked the hell out of that imp 🤣🤣🤣
@@Doug_Craft haha always need a Simpsons clip
Might sound a little Hyperbolic, but this video comes off as "Would a modern day COD bro like Chrono Trigger?"
Very shallow analysis for every aspect of the game, from the battle system (why would someone wanting to play a menu-based RPG want to be playing an Action RPG?) to the graphics (the implication that pixel art games should be compared to the Witcher), to lack of analysis for the story and characters.
Who's this video for? It's not for fans of CT, because it's a surface-level analysis. It's not for potential new players, because the video spoils the game's plot and gives a rather convoluted description of the various mechanics. A new person coming to this video won't know any new information about the game other than spoilers for the plot. There are also some things that are rather untrue about the game's mechanics, such as there being lack of balance between the characters
Suggestions: You need to come at this from the perspective of someone that might actually be interested in playing a 2D semi-turn-based RPG. It needs to be compared to those types of games (including more modern ones such as Octopath Traveler or Radiant Historia) The game's entire genre and art style can't be held against it. (Another example being that Crono is a silent protagonist meant to represent the player and that you can't edit him. WTF?). Speak more in-depth about the aspects of this type of game that people care about. Story, dialogue, music (seriously, no mention of the music??). Get a little bit more in-depth into the mechanics and talk about why it is so beloved 29 years after its release (with many calling it the best RPG of all time). Don't do spoilers, but go into WHY people relate to and resonate with the characters and story rather than just saying what they are.
@@vadertainment thank you for the feedback and I will look into this for future videos
Don't give me wrong it is a great jrpg but I think it's like in my top 25 but There's so many better ones.
@@Jackbat69 what’s your top 3?
@ReplayJunky If it's just jrpg Top 3 are
3. Dragon quest 5 Ds
2. Bloodborne (goty version) ps4
1. Skies of arcadia legends gamecube.
If it's all r p g's Including western it would be different with new vegas being 1.
@@Jackbat69 bloodborne was the only souls game I played a lot of and enjoyed. I never played DQ or Skies. I’ll have to check them out!
@ReplayJunky you haven't play any dragon quest??? I Recommend all the ds dragon quest games
@@Jackbat69 which one would you recommend I start with?
Xenogears next!
Oh wow, that's a game I haven't heard of in a LONG time!
Snes/PSX turn based RPGS aged well and remain great to this day.
Action games from the early 3D era like Tomb Raider and Resident Evil aged badly, mainly to the evolution we saw for games like those.
@@wandel51 yea I agree, they are easier to pick up and play without feeling terrible or janky
I think it's safe to say that we may never see another turn-based RPG that uses the Active Time Battle (ATB) system (aside from Final Fantasy 11, Final Fantasy 14, and whatever the Final Fantasy Remake trilogy is).
it was good for its time but come on. Better than Elden Ring? I don’t think so
@@hankzane I agree but I feel that Elden Ring and Chrono Trigger wouldn’t fall under the same category. Yes they are RPGs but then they’re separated into different subcategories. At least that’s my view lol.
I don’t really like these videos where people who played the game when it was new go back and replay it to see if it’s as good as they remember. No matter how “fair” you try to be, the nostalgia goggles are going to be securely stapled to your face.
A fairer comparison would be if you took someone who likes RPG video games and is the same age today as you would have been when Chrono Trigger was new, and see if they drop it to go back to modern games. That would be the REAL test. My guess is that they would play it for maybe 3 or 4 hours and never go back to it.
Thank you for the feedback, as of now the games I am choosing are ones that I have played a lot of so I can talk about them with better understanding. I did plan on doing this with other games in later episodes.
If you took half a minute to look through the comments you would see the many comments about "my dad had me play the game and I loved it " "my uncle showef me this game, I don't understand why games aren't like this what happpend"
So in short. Your experiment has been done. And you conclusion was wrong. Hope that helped !!
Yup agree. My 13 year old was playing Chrono trigger when the internet was out down here in Florida and the hurricane, and he had plenty of modern games to choose from
@drewn5271 i had my 15 year old. Nephew play this last year. Said graphics sucked but the game was addicting lol I think graphics are nostalgic younger gen don't get that... but everything else is timeless. Story, character design, music, etc.
@@DyingToLive1987 I think the sprite graphics on the SNES hold up much better than any other older gen system. Just look at the PS1 and polygons...😱
Trigger is awesome. But i always liked Cross more.
I can honestly say I never played Cross, what do you like better about it?
Chrono wasn't even as good as people remember when it was still relevant in the 90s. It was always a B+ rpg like secret of evermore or illusion of Gaia. It never belonged on the same shelf as ff6 or secret of mana.
B+ is still good, I'll take it. FF6 is waaaay more in depth with the story and I agree with that.
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Chrono Trigger is one of the most consistently overrated games, not just on the SNES, but of all time. Not only is it not even the best game on the SNES (see: Super Metroid), it's not even the best RPG on the console (Secret of Mana has better gameplay, FFVI has a better story, characters, AND music). It just simply isn't as good as people think it is.
I think it has a certain place in history, my favorite RPG is FF7 and I think my favorite SNES game is Zelda, A Link to the Past.
Nah, it really does give FF6 a run for its money and the gameplay of Secret of Mana isn't *that* amazing, to be real. There are a some banger tracks on all 3(especially 6 and CT). Keep in mind that I *love* both of those games.
Chrono Trigger is a great game that belongs there with the others. I suspect that either you didn't do much with it or just got to it after those others and after the fanboys talked it up to the point of being annoying.
@@InfernosReaper dude the main character says nothing the entire game
@@steet2 Not out loud, technically, but there are times where he *clearly* had to say *something* like during the trial
It's weird how people who supposedly played the game never picked up on that...
@@InfernosReaper I don't care. Ff6 has better, more dynamic characters and a far more interesting story. I swear to god you chrono trigger people are insufferable, if the main character didn't look like he was from dragonball you probably wouldn't have ever played the game in the first place
Amazing game, but overrated af
Amazing game indeed, what games would you put above it? For RPGs, FF7 for me and for SNES Zelda A Link to the Past.
Amazing game, not overrated at all and all praise is earned. No other game comes close.
@@luvlybaluga the game has aged a LOT bro, nowadays there are a lot of other way better games
@@Jeanssj98
I disagree. CT is one of a kind. The characters, story, mechanics, OST, all perfectly realized. Name a better modern RPG.
@@pc4mlc451 there are tons of better modern rpgs, CT aged a LOT in basically all areas, you can compare it to baldurs gate 3 for example and you will see the HUGE differences
I don't have to watch the video to say HELL YES ITS BETTER. But i'll still watch.
@@TheXero haha thanks for watching