In 2005 when Hurricane Katrina all but decimated the city of New Orleans, Saints owner Tom Benson was seriously about to relocate the team to his home base of San Antonio. Roger Goodell urged Benson to keep the team in Nola, years before Goodell would become the Saints’ Public Enemy No 1
Nobody cares lmao they should’ve been ahead in that game anyways second they had goodell carrying them in the 09 season with the head hunting controversy proving to be true. 3 they had like 5 seasons in a row to win literally anything and choked
Oklahoma City had the New Orleans NBA team play there after the hurricane. That's what proved that OKC could/should get a big league team. Sorry Seattle!
Robert Kraft should already be in the NFL Hall of Fame for keeping the Patriots in Foxborough. Then there is the matter of 6 Lombardi Trophies. Make it happen NFL!
In 1959, the Chicago Cardinals considered moving to Minneapolis. The Bidwell family was tired of struggling as the second class team of Chicago. One way or another they were going to move in 1960. They played a "home" game in Minnesota in '59 and used it as a barometer to gauge fan support for football. Ultimately, the Cardinals moved to St.Louis, the NFL placed a team in Minnesota in 1961 by poaching a franchise from the fledgling AFL.
Half the teams in the NFL threatened to move to LA in the late 90s and early 21st century. There are probably a half dozen or more stadiums in the league that got built at least partially due to the threat of the occupying team moving to LA.
@@sumeetbeniwal6365 They are a Bay Area team. They would of lost their entire fan base from the Bay Area had they moved. The only team that belongs in LA are the Rams
@@1999bill1999 As a Rams fan I agree with you. But as a realist, the most popular team in LA are still the Raiders, who should have joined the Rams at SoFi Stadium.
@@sjdrifter72 LA barely cared about the Raiders during their time here. They hardly sold out the coliseum, the coliseum was often tarped since they weren’t selling and the games were often blacked out on local tv
The Vikings were also looking at moving to Birmingham and San Antonio at different points. The Raiders were flirting towards a move to Sacramento in the late 80's, with a new stadium even being partially built before it was abandoned. There were also rumors of the Raiders playing in St. Louis for a few years in the event they got evicted from the Oakland Coliseum, which was quickly denied by Mark Davis. And when hearing about the Seahawks trying to move to Anaheim without league approval, anyone else get reminded by how the Penguins almost went to Hamilton and Jim Balsillie tried to sell season tickets before the relocation even went to a vote?
@Tylergaming13803 The Bills moving to Austin, Texas had their new stadium deal did not fall thorough. Also another rumor in 1995 was that the Raiders were looking at Baltimore as a possible relocation candidate.
@Tylergaming13803 Cinninatii, Tampa Bay and Oakland used Baltimore as leverage for new or renovated stadiums. Baltimore got the better of the deal over Cleveland, Modell was eventually forced out by taking Steve Bisciotti as a partner who bought him out in full 3 years later. Art was kept on a consultant until he passed away.
I think you mean my Nashville Predators. They were looking for a new owner and Jim Balsille was going to purchase the Predators, at first promising to keep them in the Music City. Then it came out he would try to move the Preds to Hamilton, selling season tickets before the league even voted on relocation. Then the Predators backed out of the deal with Balsille due to that stunt, and a new ownership group purchased the Predators. to keep them in Nashville long term.
Back in 1994, Al Davis seemingly threatened to move to almost every non-NFL city, including Orlando. He even came and toured the Citrus Bowl and decided it was dumpier than the Coliseum. Also, Disney was in the running to buy the Bucs and move them to Orlando.
There were rumors of several franchises moving to Baltimore that never came to fruition. In Baltimore, we were livid when the NFL gave the two expansion teams to Jacksonville and Carolina in 1995, but we’d only have to wait one more year for Art Model to move the Browns to Baltimore to become the Ravens. We’d go on to win two super bowls and make a ton of playoff appearances as the Ravens. At first, we wanted to get our old name back, but the money Irsay wanted was too much, so we kept the Ravens. Now, we have our own legacy with that name.
But some of the old traditions have stayed around even under new names, the Baltimore Colts Band became Baltimore’s Marching Ravens, even going back to the old fight song music with some new lyrics, the Colt Corrals are now Ravens Roosts, their annual convention in Ocean City has grown into Ravens weekend there.
@@gigabyte9584 I'm not even a Timberwolves hater but rather indifferent to them generally but every fanbase deserves some good teams and some wins. I was glad as a 14 year old when Minneapolis got a team in 1989 after 30 years of no NBA team. That said they've been an abysmal failure despite having Garnett all those years and have been horrible to mediocre for the last 15 years. Will their management team ever get it right? Plus they haven't given Minnesota and the Upper Modwest much to cheer about to build fan support over the decades. Even the Bucks got a couple of championships and had the Moncrief era in the 80s which was pretty good but they always had the Celtics, Sixes, Bulls and Pistons with better teams. Minnesota well they have hockey and well the Wolves and Gophers
I remember that year limit in Los Angeles when both of my football teams had moved that the Seahawks were gonna Los Angeles. I also remember there was even a contest in the local paper for a new name for the team.
@Tylergaming13803 The N.Y. Giants never made the move to Dallas, but the '51 edition of the New York Yanks were entirely dismantled and the next year were restarted as the "expansion" '52 Dallas Texans (blue & white) who failed miserably to the point where they finished the remaining home games in the Rubber Bowl of Akron, OH where a stunning Thanksgiving Day upset of the Chicago Bears occured. Once the season was over, the NFL temporarily headquartered the team out in Hershey, PA while Baltimore was securing enough buyers of season tickets and the NFL on Jan. 21, 1953 awarded the now-expired Dallas Texans to Balt. becoming the "new" Colts after the original version existed as the 1946 Miami Seahawks then moved the next year to be the silver-and-green Balt. Colts through the 1950 NFL season, after which the Colts owner Abraham (Abe) Watner gave all his financial interests back to the NFL. But the big irony here is that the '51 N.Y. Yanks were started anew first in Dallas for a year, then in Baltimore and would meet the N.Y. Giants (who had thoughts of going to Dallas themselves?) in the 1958 and 1959 championship games. Strange but true, as the saying goes.
Thats not all. Remember when the Skins were in Boston? Well D.C. would have never gotten a team bc the owner of the skins got into some serious talks with Buffalo when moving out of Boston.
When Irsay bolted from Baltimore to Indy, he swiped the name, too. Cleveland was able to salvage their strange name. When the team moved, they had to change their name - Ravens.
@TPS I would like to suggest as a future topic every pro football league, both the 100-yard style or indoor arena teams to have all had a team play in Los Angeles, from the 1926 Los Angeles Buccaneers, who never played any of their schedule on the west coast at all, right through teams like the champion XFL Los Angeles Extreme and the arena L.A. KISS team owned by the rock band KISS, in addition to the home L.A. team to play in the "lingerie" pro league. Should make for a interesting topic?
In 1994 The NE Patriots were going to move to St Louis and become the St Louis Stallions. Bob Kraft owned the stadium and refused to let the then owner James Orthwein out of the lease and strong armed him into selling the team to him. The rest is history
And in 1995 Baltimore CFL football club owner Jim Speros decided to call his team the Stallions, I though the NFL wouldn’t allow it, but they said “we wish the Baltimore Stallions all the luck in the world so it was a dead issue.
@@michaelleroy9281 I don't recall the first N.J. Devil's championship ending of the rumors of the team heading to Nashville, it simply postponed the planned move that bought the team time to work out a deal for the constructing of the Prudential Center with the N.J. government.
@anthonyrivera3509 Since I grew up around the D.C. area I'll share the real story of the Houston Astros rumored move to D.C.--In the mid-1980s, a local grassroots movement was started to have "Baseball In '87" for D.C. The last remaining hopes for that timeline were put on the back of the 1986 Astros owner John McMullen (he had taken the NHL Colorado Rockies to the Meadowlands arena in New Jersey, his wife giving the renamed Devils red and green colors, those being the colors during Christmas season), he owned office space in the Crystal City area very close to nearby (Ronald Reagan) Wash. Nat'l Airport, the media were suggesting if the move went through Yogi Berra from the '86 Astros coaching staff, whose residence in New Jersey wasn't too great a distance from D.C., would possibly become his manager. Alas, Mike Scott threw a no hitter against San Fran. to clinch first in the West Div., the only clinching scenario no hitter that was ever thrown in all of Major Lea. history, reg. season or post season playoff clinching game or series and the Astros were staying. Then in October 1995, new Astros owner Drayton McLane reached a "handshake agreement" with a owner of a paging communications empire named William (Bill) Collins, who played in college for George Wash. Univ. and was a draft pick as a catcher in 1972 of the Milw. Brewers, to have the Astros moved and renamed the Virginia Fury (yes, that's right) and play three (or two) years at R.F.K. Stadium in D.C. until a future site in Northern Virginia could get built. The epilogue to the story, once Pedro Martinez left for the Red Sox in 1998, Montreal Expos attendance took a massive drop, Claude Brochu sold the Expos to New York art dealer Jeffrey Loria, who had lost out in Dec. 1993 to acquire the Baltimore Orioles to lawyer and former Balt. councilman Peter Angelos. Jeffrey Loria would then switch with Marlins owner John Henry, who was given control of the Red Sox, while the Expos ownership was put in the hands of all owners of the other 29 teams. A selected number of 22 Expos home games were played in San Juan, Puerto Rico in both 2003 and 2004, then MLB had no other ready made site to move the Expos other than D.C. and relocation committee head Jerry Reinsdorf of the Chi. White Sox gave the go ahead to have the Expos moved there with all 28 owners other than Angelos voting for the move (Reinsdorf himself was another George Wash. Univ. graduate as were the future Washington Nationals owners approved in May 2006, the late Ted Lerner and his son Mark Lerner, who brought the 2019 World Series championship to D.C., in a sense bringing the story full circle, so to say.
Earthquakes may be more common in California, but the Pacific northwest lies near the Cascadia subduction zone, which results in extremely powerful "megathrust" earthquakes, though they occur hundreds of years apart (last one happened in the year 1700). This was only being fully discovered even as Behring was owner of the Seahawks, so his fears weren't entirely unfounded. The potential for destruction is much higher than something like the 1994 Northridge quake that hit southern California. The problem is, we have no idea when the next one will hit. It could be tomorrow, it could be several hundred more years. That doesn't mean running in fear is the answer.
@@bigredmachine510 The LA Lakers get away with it these days due to their history since moving to Los Angeles (in fact I didn't know until recently that they actually came from Minnesota). However, the Utah Jazz name still sounds pretty daft. As would a Sacramento Buccaneers Team.
@@bigredmachine510 Or the LA Dodgers who got their name because there were lot of trollies in Brooklyn and the residents were know as Trolly Dodgers, they eventually shorted the name to Dodgers.
Seattle is also earthquake prone as they lie along the pacific rim and the so-called 'ring of fire' of the continental plate shift that caused earthquakes.
Yeah, if the Bucs relocated to Cleveland, we would have seemed a much more same NFL division setup. The rejuvenated Cleveland browns would have played in the NFC Central, until realignment happened. The Baltimore Ravens would have played in the AFC East, while the Indianapolis colts would have played in the AFC Central. The Titans would have moved the AFC West to make the divisions more symmetrical.
How about the Pack to Miami back in the 50's... Portland, Oregon almost got the Colts. The Cardinals almost joined the Rams out west in 46 (SF), Jimmy the Greek thought the Dolphins would be in Birmingham in the late 70's...
That Packers move was only a minor threat of someone buying enough shares to own controlling interest. This was possible after the retirement of Curly Lambeau, founder of the team and coach for 30 years. The shareholders worried that someone would come in and buy all of Curly’s shares, given them total control, so a move was possible. They agreed, rather quickly, that one person could only own a small percentage of stock of the team, thereby keeping the Pack in Green Bay
I don't doubt that one... especially considering Miami failed with the Seahawks in 46. Though that was not with a NFL franchise, it must have weighed on everyone's mind there...
@@mrmoose6619 The Miami Seahawks moved to Baltimore and became the first version of the Colts who inherited their Green and Silver Colors, they were one of three AAFC teams to merge into the NFL along with the Cleveland Browns and San Francisco 49ers. They went bankrupt a year later and folded. The original Dallas Texans moved to Baltimore in 1953, and that Colts team kept the Blue and White colors of the old team.
I remember when the Smith Family owned Falcons , Rankin Smith ( Then the Falcons owner ) has wanted out of old Fulton County Stadium and threatened to move the Falcons to Jacksonville and what saved the Falcons from moving was when Atlanta was awarded the 1996 Olympic games and the Georgia Dome was built for the games and I can't remember how the deal was struck , but Smith ended up with Georgia Dome as the Falcons new home and had it not been for the Olympics , they would probably be the Jacksonville Falcons . We'll never know of course .
St. Louis Cardinals to Baltimore, I thought it was going to be a done deal listening to a NFL game on the radio while driving when Bill Bidwells son was going to go to McDonogh Prep School in nearby Owings Mills. However, they chose Arizona because the weather was warmer.
Denver Broncos to Birmingham or CHICAGO. NY Jets to LA.Chicago Cards to Minneapolis ( they did play home games there in 1959). Baltimore Colts to Phoenix or Jacksonville.
Rams to Hartford, Connecticut Probably would’ve lasted for a shorter time there than they did in St. Louis Patriots in Hartford well, you wouldn’t really have to rebrand that’s still New England, technically Patriots to St. Louis on the other hand honestly, I think that would’ve turned the most heads in the NFL
As a Buccaneer fan since day one, I have to admit I'd forgotten about the team possibly moving to Cleveland in the late '90's. However, you failed to mention that, back in the mid-90's, when the original owner, Hugh (Mr. Cheapskate) Culverhouse died, his estate was represented by a Tampa law firm. One of the bidders for the team is a guy who made it clear he was going to move the team to Baltimore. But, there was no way it was going to happen--the law firm knew that if they had sold it to him, they might as well have packed their office up and moved to Baltimore with him, because there was no way in hell they would have been able to practice law in Tampa again--they would have forever been the attorneys that sold the Bucs out of Tampa Bay!
Everybody was using LA as leverage to get a new stadium (including the chargers). It was only the Rams who truly wanted to move back to LA, which is why IMO they're the only team in LA. The chargers are the San Diego chargers that happen to be playing in Kronke's house. 😆
There is a wishful story that at the Owners meeting to approve the relocations, that Michael Bidwill of the Cardinals would swap franchises with the Spanos family and play in the Dome at America's Center until the proposed Enterprise Stadium next to the Arch ground was built. Bidwill could return to the city he grew up & attended college at, and not have to pay a relocation fee.
The Colts should've moved to Phoenix instead of Indianapolis. The horseshoe logo alone fits perfectly with the southwestern theme and at the time they'd already won a Super Bowl championship, something the Cardinals will most likely never win.
The rams were close to moving to Baltimore the rams also had a backup plan to move to Toronto if Los Angeles did not work out, the cardinals were also looking at Baltimore or Jacksonville I think the New Orleans saints were also looking at Toronto after hurricane katrina
@Tylergaming13803 Peter Angelos wanted to buy the Rams and have them play at Oriole Park while a new stadium was going to be built across the street. Angelos was going to call the first years there Ram-dem Yards
Vikings also almost moved to New York City in the 70s....their stadium was inadequate and the Giants just left for NJ....They would have played at refurbished Yankee Stadium.
@@58twright Raiders always do well where there is a large Latino/Mexican American population. Even today they're still the most popular NFL team in Los Angeles despite leaving in 1994. Wherever the Raiders go, La Raza is sure to follow.
When the Colts were still in Baltimore, in the early 70's, Irsay wanted to move them to Tampa. Also there were rumors in the late 80's that Cardinals owner, Bill Bidwell wanted to move the team to Baltimore
I've always felt that if they couldn't stay as the Baltimore Colts, they should've become the Phoenix/Arizona Colts. Those beautiful blue uniforms and horseshoe logo would not have looked out of place in the Valley of the Sun.
Should do an episode how the only 2 franchises to ever swap ownership from 1 team to the other history and all. How the Rams and Colts forever be intertwined by this swap and even after the fates of these teams still are felt by this decision today as the Rams have gone on to 5 super bowls and the colts have gone on to 1 since the swap
Well it happened in the late 80’s (or whenever it was) when the Raiders were looking to move away from LA. It was set on either back to Oakland or Sacramento. And many people started getting shirts and stuff saying Sacramento raiders on it 😂
@@nickmeara5323 Instead they played a couple of games a year in Milwaukee, but the limitations of County Stadium where both teams had to share the same sideline eventually ended that and they play all their home games in Lambeau Field now.
@@nickmeara5323 I believe that that was due to the fact that their main stadium before Lambeau was small, and not in great shape. They got back to GB rather quickly after City/Lambeau, was opened.
Yeah, they technically could never leave. The city and residents own it. They would all have to vote on it. Which we know would never happen. They are the only team that’s in a city with no more than a 100k people. Yet they sell out every game. Is the most loyal fan base out there. If you live in GB you have been to at least 1 game.
Before the Oakland Raiders relocated from the City by the City By the Bay to the City of Sin, owner Al Davis wanted to move to the Southside of Chicago to compete with The Windy City's northsiders Bears. Those plans never materialized and so the franchise remained in the City of Oaks.
I remembered in the mid 90s as a kid, the Chicago Bears was in talks to moving the franchise to Gary Indiana and they would be named the Gary Bears 😂😂😂😂😂 thank goodness that didn't happened
They forgot to mention that The Tampa Bay Buccaneers at some time in the 80's was thinking About moving to Sacramento, And they would have been called The Sacramento Buccaneers
Because LA is the second biggest media market in the country behind New York City, and by moving to Los Angeles the worth of the team greatly increases in value.
Phoenix Colts is by far the closest one that almost happened. Either that or the St. Louis Stallions via the Patriots. Stopped by the cancelation of a second meeting and Robert Kraft buying Foxboro Stadium, respectively.
The Packers almost moved to Milwaukee, it was basically a threat if they didn't get help paying for the Renovation. But brown county voted yes to have a TAX increase to help pay lol
In the 1940's Curly Lambeau wanted to move the Green Bay Packers to Los Angeles. He could see that it was prime territory for an NFL team. But, the Packers Board of Directors wouldn't hear of it. Curly Lambeau resigned his position as coach and the Packers stayed in Green Bay. The last of the town teams in the NFL.
I remember when the st Louis cardinals were going move to new York and play at shea stadium. As a giants fan i was hoping they would so i can see the giants play being giants tickets are hard to get.
You missed several connected to Baltimore: Colts to Tampa Colts to Jax Colts to Phoenix StL Cardinals to Baltimore (they held a family vote and Phoenix won by 1 vote) Rams to Baltimore Bengals to Baltimore Bucs to Baltimore Cardinals again to Baltimore... In late summer / early fall1995, with stadium funding for what became M&T Bank Stadium, the Maryland Stadium Authority had real interest from not just Modell, but also Mike Brown, the Glaziers, and the Bidwells.
@michaelfudge9205 Some thoughts I would like to add to your list of the places and teams linked to leaving (Colts) or moving to Baltimore.......... 1972: Colts switched training camp from longtime home in Westminster, MD (Western Maryland Col., now known as McDaniel College) to the Tampa area and played a preseason date or two in the future Buccaneers home, the earliest rumblings of the Colts leaving; St. Louis Cardinals owner Bill Bidwill had graduated from the 40-to-42-miles-away-from-Balt. Georgetown U., just a curious sidenote to the possible move there; in addition to the (L.A.) Rams, Bengals & Buccaneers the media were hinting that Los Angeles Raiders owner Al Davis and the pre-Robert Kraft, early 1990s New Eng. (along with the possible Patriots moves to St. Louis, Hartford or L.A.) had some interest as well in Baltimore (with Francis Scott Key and the Star Spangled Banner poem at the 1814 Fort McHenry battle), the Patriots name would have perfectly continued there. Then there's the legend about Cleveland owner Modell demanding the Oct. and Nov. 1993 not give the teams to Baltimore that were given first to Carolina and the following month to Jacksonville so that Modell could claim Baltimore all for himself since he needed to financially save himself by having somewhere to move the Browns, the state of Maryland virtually gave away the whole state to Modell just to have the NFL return back there.
Ken Behring was hated in Seattle. He threatened to move the team LA if he didnt get a new stadium. Everyone said no to a new stadium. Then Paul Allen came along and said the only way he would buy the Team is if he got a new Stadium we said OK. Behring was like but thats what I wanted. We were like yea we dont like you. I would call the years he owned the Seahawks the Dark Days.
The Chicago Bears also were gonna move. They were flirting with a few cities. The closest they came to was moving to Fairbanks, AK and becoming the Fairbanks Polar Bears.
I think they Are moving out of Chicago, to a suburb. But out of Chcago, so they are legally not allowed to call themselves the Chicago Bears lest they repeatedly and easily lose false advertisement lawsuits. It's called bait & switch.
@@wankertanker1813uh, there are many teams that are not in the city they represent. The jets and giants are in New Jersey, the 49ers play in Santa Clara, the cowboys play in Arlington, and Washington plays in Maryland. There’s probably even more that I’m missing.
The Eagles have not been constant winners. Seattle's Kingdom was structurally unsound and far more vulnerable to collapse than any public facility in Los Angeles. Seattle is also on the ring of fire.
The Vikings weren't the only franchise that wanted to move to LA. Mike Brown, owner of The Cincinnati Bengals, was threatening to move his team to Los Angeles if they didn't get a new stadium, and at the time, The Bengals were horrible (and calling them 'horrible' was an understatement.) The City of Cincinnati had lost a franchise before (The NBA's Royals left Cincinnati in 1973.), and city officials, including the mayor, didn't want that to happen again. So, thanks to the city's tax dollars, Paul Brown Stadium (now Paycore Stadium) was built in 2000.
Fun fact: when Baltimore was a finalist in the NFL expansion effort that got Jacksonville and Carolina teams, two out of the three ownership groups got NFL teams in other cities, Al Learner was awarded the new Cleveland Browns team and Malcom Glazier purchased the Buccaneers. Boogie Weinglass owed the Merry Go Round clothing Chain and went Bankruptt.
I always like to take the opportunity to say that Bud Adams was scum. He held the city and county up for renovations to the Astrodome at a time when Houston was flat on its back financially, then demanded another set of renovations a few years later. A poll taken in Houston at the time he moved the team to Tennessee discovered his favorability rating among Houstonians was 6% at the time. And if they'd known him in person, it would have been zero.
Bob Irsay, tried to move the Colts to Phoenix, before the infamous "Move at Midnight." He arranged a meeting with then-Arizona Govenor Brue Babbitt, in Bakersfield California, to try not make it look too obvious.
Irsay also flew into Tampa into the middle of the stadium in a helicopter, if memory serves correctly. I think one of the things that shocked the local media in 1984 was that Indianapolis wasn’t necessary considered the front runner to land the team, should they move. Tampa was. There were even t-shirts or bumper stickers printed up at the time that read “Don’t Tampa with Our Colts” or something to that effect, appearing around Maryland.
I hope Minnesota does not lose the Vikings. The team fits the area perfectly, and I love the nod to the Nordic culture of the northern Midwest. I fear in the future Minnesota’s football team is going to become the Minneapolis Somalian pirates 🏴☠️ Most Somalian immigrants who come to the US flood into Minneapolis
I never heard, i know the miami dolphins and Minnesota Viking came close to going to Birmingham, but not even once in a 1000 years would i expect the bucs going there. But wow i never knew
Back in the days I heard the Cowboys were supposed to come to Sacramento California. There was a car dealership owner by the name of Cal Worthington, who was in talks about buying them and moving them to Sacramento California.????? do you know anything about it?
Vikings trying to become the Lakers 😂
Lol so true, they would’ve come from the same location, plus have the same color scheme.
@@manuel1846inla1 so many people don’t know of the Minneapolis Lakers! I always say, how many Lakes are in LA?!????
They would have not kept the name Vikings in LA
Could do worse
Vikings ain't happy with management and owner
In 2005 when Hurricane Katrina all but decimated the city of New Orleans, Saints owner Tom Benson was seriously about to relocate the team to his home base of San Antonio. Roger Goodell urged Benson to keep the team in Nola, years before Goodell would become the Saints’ Public Enemy No 1
Nobody cares lmao they should’ve been ahead in that game anyways second they had goodell carrying them in the 09 season with the head hunting controversy proving to be true. 3 they had like 5 seasons in a row to win literally anything and choked
@@Goat69nut54You have literally no idea what you’re talking about and I’m not even a Saints fan.
@@12dbortle I do tf
@@12dbortle go ahead bud prove me wrong lmao.
Oklahoma City had the New Orleans NBA team play there after the hurricane. That's what proved that OKC could/should get a big league team.
Sorry Seattle!
Robert Kraft should already be in the NFL Hall of Fame for keeping the Patriots in Foxborough. Then there is the matter of 6 Lombardi Trophies. Make it happen NFL!
Let’s keep the New England Patriots where they belong
@@ryancampbell6510 Had Schaefer Stadium not been built, the Patriots would have moved elsewhere in 1970.
Lol later in the video he seemed fine to move it to Hartford.
@@ryancampbell6510I have been to Boston. There is not many places in city limits that have an NFL stadium with at least 65,000 fans.
In 1959, the Chicago Cardinals considered moving to Minneapolis. The Bidwell family was tired of struggling as the second class team of Chicago. One way or another they were going to move in 1960. They played a "home" game in Minnesota in '59 and used it as a barometer to gauge fan support for football.
Ultimately, the Cardinals moved to St.Louis, the NFL placed a team in Minnesota in 1961 by poaching a franchise from the fledgling AFL.
The Cardinals played 2 games at Met Stadium in Bloomington in 1959 one against the Giants one against the Eagles
The AFL replaced Minneapolis with Oakland.
@@rockvilleravenWho ironically moved a few times.
Half the teams in the NFL threatened to move to LA in the late 90s and early 21st century. There are probably a half dozen or more stadiums in the league that got built at least partially due to the threat of the occupying team moving to LA.
Even the Niners used LA as leverage to get a stadium
@@1999bill1999 ok the niners in LA sounds like the most messed up thing ever
@@sumeetbeniwal6365 They are a Bay Area team. They would of lost their entire fan base from the Bay Area had they moved. The only team that belongs in LA are the Rams
@@1999bill1999 As a Rams fan I agree with you. But as a realist, the most popular team in LA are still the Raiders, who should have joined the Rams at SoFi Stadium.
@@sjdrifter72 LA barely cared about the Raiders during their time here. They hardly sold out the coliseum, the coliseum was often tarped since they weren’t selling and the games were often blacked out on local tv
The Vikings were also looking at moving to Birmingham and San Antonio at different points.
The Raiders were flirting towards a move to Sacramento in the late 80's, with a new stadium even being partially built before it was abandoned. There were also rumors of the Raiders playing in St. Louis for a few years in the event they got evicted from the Oakland Coliseum, which was quickly denied by Mark Davis.
And when hearing about the Seahawks trying to move to Anaheim without league approval, anyone else get reminded by how the Penguins almost went to Hamilton and Jim Balsillie tried to sell season tickets before the relocation even went to a vote?
@Tylergaming13803 The Bills moving to Austin, Texas had their new stadium deal did not fall thorough. Also another rumor in 1995 was that the Raiders were looking at Baltimore as a possible relocation candidate.
@Tylergaming13803 Cinninatii, Tampa Bay and Oakland used Baltimore as leverage for new or renovated stadiums. Baltimore got the better of the deal over Cleveland, Modell was eventually forced out by taking Steve Bisciotti as a partner who bought him out in full 3 years later. Art was kept on a consultant until he passed away.
I think you mean my Nashville Predators. They were looking for a new owner and Jim Balsille was going to purchase the Predators, at first promising to keep them in the Music City. Then it came out he would try to move the Preds to Hamilton, selling season tickets before the league even voted on relocation. Then the Predators backed out of the deal with Balsille due to that stunt, and a new ownership group purchased the Predators. to keep them in Nashville long term.
@@trevorbarnhill3399He tried it with the penguins first in 2006, then Preds in 2007 and then Coyotes in 2009
@@KevinQ25 Oh, okay. Gotcha.
Wait...the former Seahawks owner was afraid of earthquakes...so he wanted to move to LOS ANGELES...😂😂😂
Wow
Ken Behring was not the brightest bulb in the box. The years of his ownership were a very dark time for us.
@@flatulent-1 the years of Dan Snyders ownership in Washington has been a very tough time for us thank god he is leaving soon
If this happened, the San Diego chargers and St. Louis rams would not have moved to LA
I feel SO bad for Hartford they thought they were getting 2 franchises and lost the one they had
We here in Memphis can feel your pain. We wanted an NFL franchise more than anyone else. We got screwed over and over again.
I would have cheered for the Patriots if they were in Connecticut make them the Hartford Patriots it has a nice ring to it wish it would have happened
Back in 1994, Al Davis seemingly threatened to move to almost every non-NFL city, including Orlando. He even came and toured the Citrus Bowl and decided it was dumpier than the Coliseum. Also, Disney was in the running to buy the Bucs and move them to Orlando.
As early as 1986 Al Davis already seeking to get out of LA. Raiders in LA never worked out. No matter what their fanbase claims
The Cincinnati bengals threatened a move to Orlando at 1 point
Half the league was rumored to be moving to LA in the 90s and 00s. The NFL was using them as a bargaining chip to get better stadiums in other cities.
There were rumors of several franchises moving to Baltimore that never came to fruition. In Baltimore, we were livid when the NFL gave the two expansion teams to Jacksonville and Carolina in 1995, but we’d only have to wait one more year for Art Model to move the Browns to Baltimore to become the Ravens. We’d go on to win two super bowls and make a ton of playoff appearances as the Ravens. At first, we wanted to get our old name back, but the money Irsay wanted was too much, so we kept the Ravens. Now, we have our own legacy with that name.
But some of the old traditions have stayed around even under new names, the Baltimore Colts Band became Baltimore’s Marching Ravens, even going back to the old fight song music with some new lyrics, the Colt Corrals are now Ravens Roosts, their annual convention in Ocean City has grown into Ravens weekend there.
And the Ravens - Steelers rivalry has developed into one the most physical, fiercest rivalries in the NFL today.......
@@handsomeclem208 It’s the football version of Yankees-Red Sox
To be fair, the Lakers moved from Minneapolis to LA
Also, Connecticut is in New England, which is the home region to the patriots
Minneapolis was never a good NBA city even now. The Timberwolves nearly moved to Nashville TN in 1997 as well as New Orleans around that same time
@@user-te6je9kh4f For real. Two playoff series wins in a whole franchise history (in fact all in one season to be exact) is just beyond embarrassing
@@gigabyte9584 I'm not even a Timberwolves hater but rather indifferent to them generally but every fanbase deserves some good teams and some wins. I was glad as a 14 year old when Minneapolis got a team in 1989 after 30 years of no NBA team. That said they've been an abysmal failure despite having Garnett all those years and have been horrible to mediocre for the last 15 years. Will their management team ever get it right? Plus they haven't given Minnesota and the Upper Modwest much to cheer about to build fan support over the decades. Even the Bucks got a couple of championships and had the Moncrief era in the 80s which was pretty good but they always had the Celtics, Sixes, Bulls and Pistons with better teams. Minnesota well they have hockey and well the Wolves and Gophers
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There used to be talks about the Bills moving out of Buffalo to Toronto a few years back.
They were also thinking about austin, but there were more or less using it as leverage to get a new stadium
Buffalo almost had 2 teams. Remember when the Redskins were in Boston? They got into some serious talks with Buffalo on trying to move there.
I remember that year limit in Los Angeles when both of my football teams had moved that the Seahawks were gonna Los Angeles. I also remember there was even a contest in the local paper for a new name for the team.
Yeah I remember too and we were freaking out here in Seattle.
Shocked the Skins almost went to Dallas… that was probably the most shocking to me on this list
@Tylergaming13803 The N.Y. Giants never made the move to Dallas, but the '51 edition of the New York Yanks were entirely dismantled and the next year were restarted as the "expansion" '52 Dallas Texans (blue & white) who failed miserably to the point where they finished the remaining home games in the Rubber Bowl of Akron, OH where a stunning Thanksgiving Day upset of the Chicago Bears occured. Once the season was over, the NFL temporarily headquartered the team out in Hershey, PA while Baltimore was securing enough buyers of season tickets and the NFL on Jan. 21, 1953 awarded the now-expired Dallas Texans to Balt. becoming the "new" Colts after the original version existed as the 1946 Miami Seahawks then moved the next year to be the silver-and-green Balt. Colts through the 1950 NFL season, after which the Colts owner Abraham (Abe) Watner gave all his financial interests back to the NFL. But the big irony here is that the '51 N.Y. Yanks were started anew first in Dallas for a year, then in Baltimore and would meet the N.Y. Giants (who had thoughts of going to Dallas themselves?) in the 1958 and 1959 championship games. Strange but true, as the saying goes.
Thats not all. Remember when the Skins were in Boston? Well D.C. would have never gotten a team bc the owner of the skins got into some serious talks with Buffalo when moving out of Boston.
No lie Los Angeles Vikings not to bad of a name
When Irsay bolted from Baltimore to Indy, he swiped the name, too. Cleveland was able to salvage their strange name. When the team moved, they had to change their name - Ravens.
I remember when my Vikings were heading to Birmingham Alabama. I'm so glad they finally got the stadium they have needed for all these years!
@TPS I would like to suggest as a future topic every pro football league, both the 100-yard style or indoor arena teams to have all had a team play in Los Angeles, from the 1926 Los Angeles Buccaneers, who never played any of their schedule on the west coast at all, right through teams like the champion XFL Los Angeles Extreme and the arena L.A. KISS team owned by the rock band KISS, in addition to the home L.A. team to play in the "lingerie" pro league. Should make for a interesting topic?
Love your video TPS
In 1994 The NE Patriots were going to move to St Louis and become the St Louis Stallions. Bob Kraft owned the stadium and refused to let the then owner James Orthwein out of the lease and strong armed him into selling the team to him. The rest is history
And in 1995 Baltimore CFL football club owner Jim Speros decided to call his team the Stallions, I though the NFL wouldn’t allow it, but they said “we wish the Baltimore Stallions all the luck in the world so it was a dead issue.
St. Louis cardinals to Houston in the 1950s, New Jersey devils to Nashville in 1995. Houston astros to Washington DC in the late 1990s.
The Cardinals were also rumored to be moving to both Milwaukee and Detroit around that time.
The Devils won the Stanley Cup in 1995 that ended the rumors of the move to Nashville
@@michaelleroy9281 I don't recall the first N.J. Devil's championship ending of the rumors of the team heading to Nashville, it simply postponed the planned move that bought the team time to work out a deal for the constructing of the Prudential Center with the N.J. government.
@anthonyrivera3509 Since I grew up around the D.C. area I'll share the real story of the Houston Astros rumored move to D.C.--In the mid-1980s, a local grassroots movement was started to have "Baseball In '87" for D.C.
The last remaining hopes for that timeline were put on the back of the 1986 Astros owner John McMullen (he had taken the NHL Colorado Rockies to the Meadowlands arena in New Jersey, his wife giving the renamed Devils red and green colors, those being the colors during Christmas season), he owned office space in the Crystal City area very close to nearby (Ronald Reagan) Wash. Nat'l Airport, the media were suggesting if the move went through Yogi Berra from the '86 Astros coaching staff, whose residence in New Jersey wasn't too great a distance from D.C., would possibly become his manager. Alas, Mike Scott threw a no hitter against San Fran. to clinch first in the West Div., the only clinching scenario no hitter that was ever thrown in all of Major Lea. history, reg. season or post season playoff clinching game or series and the Astros were staying. Then in October 1995, new Astros owner Drayton McLane reached a "handshake agreement" with a owner of a paging communications empire named William (Bill) Collins, who played in college for George Wash. Univ. and was a draft pick as a catcher in 1972 of the Milw. Brewers, to have the Astros moved and renamed the Virginia Fury (yes, that's right) and play three (or two) years at R.F.K. Stadium in D.C. until a future site in Northern Virginia could get built. The epilogue to the story, once Pedro Martinez left for the Red Sox in 1998, Montreal Expos attendance took a massive drop, Claude Brochu sold the Expos to New York art dealer Jeffrey Loria, who had lost out in Dec. 1993 to acquire the Baltimore Orioles to lawyer and former Balt. councilman Peter Angelos. Jeffrey Loria would then switch with Marlins owner John Henry, who was given control of the Red Sox, while the Expos ownership was put in the hands of all owners of the other 29 teams. A selected number of 22 Expos home games were played in San Juan, Puerto Rico in both 2003 and 2004, then MLB had no other ready made site to move the Expos other than D.C. and relocation committee head Jerry Reinsdorf of the Chi. White Sox gave the go ahead to have the Expos moved there with all 28 owners other than Angelos voting for the move (Reinsdorf himself was another George Wash. Univ. graduate as were the future Washington Nationals owners approved in May 2006, the late Ted Lerner and his son Mark Lerner, who brought the 2019 World Series championship to D.C., in a sense bringing the story full circle, so to say.
Earthquakes may be more common in California, but the Pacific northwest lies near the Cascadia subduction zone, which results in extremely powerful "megathrust" earthquakes, though they occur hundreds of years apart (last one happened in the year 1700). This was only being fully discovered even as Behring was owner of the Seahawks, so his fears weren't entirely unfounded. The potential for destruction is much higher than something like the 1994 Northridge quake that hit southern California. The problem is, we have no idea when the next one will hit. It could be tomorrow, it could be several hundred more years. That doesn't mean running in fear is the answer.
The buccaneers also had proposed to move to Sacramento
So thankful it didn’t happen TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS IS US BABY🏴☠️
Surely they would have had to change their name under those circumstances.
@@MrSmith1984 ask the Utah jazz or the LA Lakers
@@bigredmachine510 The LA Lakers get away with it these days due to their history since moving to Los Angeles (in fact I didn't know until recently that they actually came from Minnesota).
However, the Utah Jazz name still sounds pretty daft. As would a Sacramento Buccaneers Team.
@@bigredmachine510 Or the LA Dodgers who got their name because there were lot of trollies in Brooklyn and the residents were know as Trolly Dodgers, they eventually shorted the name to Dodgers.
A video based on sports teams that saved themselves from relocation plans would sound like an interesting idea
It was a good movie. Major League and Major League II
Columbus Crew for instance.
Everyone to Los Angeles!
Lol, right.
You should do the best draft every team has had
He wasn't wrong about the Kingdome but why move to earthquake prone SOCAL
Seattle is also earthquake prone as they lie along the pacific rim and the so-called 'ring of fire' of the continental plate shift that caused earthquakes.
Can y'all make a video of every NFL teams biggest HOF snub?
Yeah, if the Bucs relocated to Cleveland, we would have seemed a much more same NFL division setup.
The rejuvenated Cleveland browns would have played in the NFC Central, until realignment happened. The Baltimore Ravens would have played in the AFC East, while the Indianapolis colts would have played in the AFC Central.
The Titans would have moved the AFC West to make the divisions more symmetrical.
You guys did a great job with this video!
How about the Pack to Miami back in the 50's... Portland, Oregon almost got the Colts. The Cardinals almost joined the Rams out west in 46 (SF), Jimmy the Greek thought the Dolphins would be in Birmingham in the late 70's...
That Packers move was only a minor threat of someone buying enough shares to own controlling interest. This was possible after the retirement of Curly Lambeau, founder of the team and coach for 30 years. The shareholders worried that someone would come in and buy all of Curly’s shares, given them total control, so a move was possible. They agreed, rather quickly, that one person could only own a small percentage of stock of the team, thereby keeping the Pack in Green Bay
I don't doubt that one... especially considering Miami failed with the Seahawks in 46. Though that was not with a NFL franchise, it must have weighed on everyone's mind there...
Around 1980 the Dolphins 🐬 did want a new stadium the Orange Bowl was getting old
@@mrmoose6619 The Miami Seahawks moved to Baltimore and became the first version of the Colts who inherited their Green and Silver Colors, they were one of three AAFC teams to merge into the NFL along with the Cleveland Browns and San Francisco 49ers. They went bankrupt a year later and folded. The original Dallas Texans moved to Baltimore in 1953, and that Colts team kept the Blue and White colors of the old team.
0:22 The late Denise D’Ascenzo from WFSB, the CBS affiliate in Connecticut. Killed me just now to write that. She is dearly missed. Still.
I remember when the Smith Family owned Falcons , Rankin Smith ( Then the Falcons owner ) has wanted out of old Fulton County Stadium and threatened to move the Falcons to Jacksonville and what saved the Falcons from moving was when Atlanta was awarded the 1996 Olympic games and the Georgia Dome was built for the games and I can't remember how the deal was struck , but Smith ended up with Georgia Dome as the Falcons new home and had it not been for the Olympics , they would probably be the Jacksonville Falcons . We'll never know of course .
The falcons tried moving to Memphis, Jacksonville, and Baltimore when they wanted to move. And all moves came close
Even before vikings considered la in like the 80s (or 70s dont remember exactly) they wanted to relocate to Birmingham twice
Once in the 1970's and again in the 1990's. The second time was over Metrodome revenues that weren't going to the team.
Wasn't there a rumor of the Broncos going to Houston? I think it was before a new stadium was approved in Denver
That was a possibility then, they were also considering Burmingham at one point also way back in the 60's.
St. Louis Cardinals to Baltimore, I thought it was going to be a done deal listening to a NFL game on the radio while driving when Bill Bidwells son was going to go to McDonogh Prep School in nearby Owings Mills. However, they chose Arizona because the weather was warmer.
Denver Broncos to Birmingham or CHICAGO. NY Jets to LA.Chicago Cards to Minneapolis ( they did play home games there in 1959). Baltimore Colts to Phoenix or Jacksonville.
We already knew about the Vikings in LA...all the non Raider fans wanted them too...having another purple and gold team would have been great
Sounds like we were about to have half the league in Los Angeles.
Rams to Hartford, Connecticut
Probably would’ve lasted for a shorter time there than they did in St. Louis
Patriots in Hartford well, you wouldn’t really have to rebrand that’s still New England, technically
Patriots to St. Louis on the other hand honestly, I think that would’ve turned the most heads in the NFL
W video like all ways tps
Do the 5 most under rated sports team and the 5 most over rated sports teams day 11
Next to Howard Shultz, Ken Bering is the most hated man in Seattle.
Yup.
There were some Vikings to Memphis rumors in the mid 70s it was because of the crumbling condition of Metropolitan Stadium
Here's a video suggestion I wanna make for TPS: 10 Most Underrated Head Coaches in Pro Sports History.
As a Buccaneer fan since day one, I have to admit I'd forgotten about the team possibly moving to Cleveland in the late '90's. However, you failed to mention that, back in the mid-90's, when the original owner, Hugh (Mr. Cheapskate) Culverhouse died, his estate was represented by a Tampa law firm. One of the bidders for the team is a guy who made it clear he was going to move the team to Baltimore. But, there was no way it was going to happen--the law firm knew that if they had sold it to him, they might as well have packed their office up and moved to Baltimore with him, because there was no way in hell they would have been able to practice law in Tampa again--they would have forever been the attorneys that sold the Bucs out of Tampa Bay!
Oh yeh i remember this one. My uncle was mad as hell bc he lived in tampa
Everybody was using LA as leverage to get a new stadium (including the chargers). It was only the Rams who truly wanted to move back to LA, which is why IMO they're the only team in LA. The chargers are the San Diego chargers that happen to be playing in Kronke's house. 😆
There is a wishful story that at the Owners meeting to approve the relocations, that Michael Bidwill of the Cardinals would swap franchises with the Spanos family and play in the Dome at America's Center until the proposed Enterprise Stadium next to the Arch ground was built. Bidwill could return to the city he grew up & attended college at, and not have to pay a relocation fee.
Raiders famously had Hollywood Park, but also had their eyes Irwindale. Sacramento literally broke ground for a Raiders stadium too
Bob Irsay shopped the Colts around like crazy while in Baltimore. He was in talks with Phoenix and Jacksonville before Indianapolis.
The Colts should've moved to Phoenix instead of Indianapolis. The horseshoe logo alone fits perfectly with the southwestern theme and at the time they'd already won a Super Bowl championship, something the Cardinals will most likely never win.
The rams were close to moving to Baltimore the rams also had a backup plan to move to Toronto if Los Angeles did not work out, the cardinals were also looking at Baltimore or Jacksonville I think the New Orleans saints were also looking at Toronto after hurricane katrina
@Tylergaming13803 Peter Angelos wanted to buy the Rams and have them play at Oriole Park while a new stadium was going to be built across the street. Angelos was going to call the first years there Ram-dem Yards
Vikings also almost moved to New York City in the 70s....their stadium was inadequate and the Giants just left for NJ....They would have played at refurbished Yankee Stadium.
Raiders to San Antonio. Not sure how serious the talks were but there were rumors.
Raiders would have done well in San Antonio I think the chargers probably would too
Alamodome would have been perfect. But the San Antonio raiders sounds a bit off to me
@@58twright Raiders always do well where there is a large Latino/Mexican American population. Even today they're still the most popular NFL team in Los Angeles despite leaving in 1994. Wherever the Raiders go, La Raza is sure to follow.
@@sumeetbeniwal6365 Not as bad as the 'Las Vegas Raiders'. That just sounds so wrong. They don't belong in the desert.
When the Colts were still in Baltimore, in the early 70's, Irsay wanted to move them to Tampa. Also there were rumors in the late 80's that Cardinals owner, Bill Bidwell wanted to move the team to Baltimore
I've always felt that if they couldn't stay as the Baltimore Colts, they should've become the Phoenix/Arizona Colts. Those beautiful blue uniforms and horseshoe logo would not have looked out of place in the Valley of the Sun.
Aew could of been located in London.
Lol
Wwe
Should do an episode how the only 2 franchises to ever swap ownership from 1 team to the other history and all. How the Rams and Colts forever be intertwined by this swap and even after the fates of these teams still are felt by this decision today as the Rams have gone on to 5 super bowls and the colts have gone on to 1 since the swap
Most underrated player on every nfl team
Didn't mention the Raiders to San Antonio
I remember actually seeing Sacramento Raiders hats... If my memory is correct, that attempt was a few years before the move to L.A.
Well it happened in the late 80’s (or whenever it was) when the Raiders were looking to move away from LA. It was set on either back to Oakland or Sacramento. And many people started getting shirts and stuff saying Sacramento raiders on it 😂
The Seahawks quasi-move was odd. Behring moved the team’s offices to LA, but hadn’t gotten approval yet.
The Dolphins explored a move to Los Angeles before the Raiders moved south to L.A. in the early 80s and again in 2017
Funny that the Dolphins owner was the only one to vote no against both the Rams and Chargers move to Los Angles.
For a little bit, the dolphins focused on moving to Birmingham Alabama. The Vikings tried moving to Birmingham twice also
How about teams that stayed in their current city the longest and why? Starting with the GB Packers. I love their "ownership" structure.
Part of my becoming a Packer fan, among others.
The Packers were to relocate exclusively to the Cheddar Bowl in Milwaukee, WI in the 1930's.
@@nickmeara5323 Instead they played a couple of games a year in Milwaukee, but the limitations of County Stadium where both teams had to share the same sideline eventually ended that and they play all their home games in Lambeau Field now.
@@nickmeara5323 I believe that that was due to the fact that their main stadium before Lambeau was small, and not in great shape. They got back to GB rather quickly after City/Lambeau, was opened.
Yeah, they technically could never leave. The city and residents own it. They would all have to vote on it. Which we know would never happen. They are the only team that’s in a city with no more than a 100k people. Yet they sell out every game. Is the most loyal fan base out there. If you live in GB you have been to at least 1 game.
Before the Oakland Raiders relocated from the City by the City By the Bay to the City of Sin, owner Al Davis wanted to move to the Southside of Chicago to compete with The Windy City's northsiders Bears. Those plans never materialized and so the franchise remained in the City of Oaks.
I remembered in the mid 90s as a kid, the Chicago Bears was in talks to moving the franchise to Gary Indiana and they would be named the Gary Bears 😂😂😂😂😂 thank goodness that didn't happened
Dude...I remember that...I was living in Gary at that time...
I'm sure folks over there in Gary would've welcomed them with a big bear hug.
It was going to be part of a large complex called "Planet Park". They even had plans to move the Jackson Family's home to the location.
They forgot to mention that The Tampa Bay Buccaneers at some time in the 80's was thinking About moving to Sacramento, And they would have been called The Sacramento Buccaneers
In the late 90's 97 to be exact Eddie Debartlo threatened to move the niners to la
Los Angeles 49ers. That is something that will never happen once in a millennium
Remember the Buffalo Bills were thinking of relocating to Austin TX
Rams to Hartford would have been awesome imo since Rams are my favorite team and I was 30 minutes from Hartford at the time.
Bills almost moved to Toronto
At least the Broncos are stationary. 🙂👍
They played a couple of games in Toronto.
Almost, but didn't
Why do so many teams seem to want to go to Los Angeles? People do know there's other locations just as good as LA
Because LA is the second biggest media market in the country behind New York City, and by moving to Los Angeles the worth of the team greatly increases in value.
Phoenix Colts is by far the closest one that almost happened. Either that or the St. Louis Stallions via the Patriots. Stopped by the cancelation of a second meeting and Robert Kraft buying Foxboro Stadium, respectively.
The Packers almost moved to Milwaukee, it was basically a threat if they didn't get help paying for the Renovation. But brown county voted yes to have a TAX increase to help pay lol
In the 1940's Curly Lambeau wanted to move the Green Bay Packers to Los Angeles. He could see that it was prime territory for an NFL team. But, the Packers Board of Directors wouldn't hear of it. Curly Lambeau resigned his position as coach and the Packers stayed in Green Bay. The last of the town teams in the NFL.
Should have included the Los Angeles Raiders to Sacremento in the early 1990's. They even began work what was supposed to be ARCO Field.
Broncos almost moved to Burmingham at one point.
I remember when the st Louis cardinals were going move to new York and play at shea stadium. As a giants fan i was hoping they would so i can see the giants play being giants tickets are hard to get.
Didn’t the jets play in Shea Stadium back then?
You missed several connected to Baltimore:
Colts to Tampa
Colts to Jax
Colts to Phoenix
StL Cardinals to Baltimore (they held a family vote and Phoenix won by 1 vote)
Rams to Baltimore
Bengals to Baltimore
Bucs to Baltimore
Cardinals again to Baltimore...
In late summer / early fall1995, with stadium funding for what became M&T Bank Stadium, the Maryland Stadium Authority had real interest from not just Modell, but also Mike Brown, the Glaziers, and the Bidwells.
@michaelfudge9205 Some thoughts I would like to add to your list of the places and teams linked to leaving (Colts) or moving to Baltimore..........
1972: Colts switched training camp from longtime home in Westminster, MD (Western Maryland Col., now known as McDaniel College) to the Tampa area and played a preseason date or two in the future Buccaneers home, the earliest rumblings of the Colts leaving; St. Louis Cardinals owner Bill Bidwill had graduated from the 40-to-42-miles-away-from-Balt.
Georgetown U., just a curious sidenote to the possible move there; in addition to the (L.A.)
Rams, Bengals & Buccaneers
the media were hinting that Los Angeles Raiders owner Al Davis and the pre-Robert Kraft, early 1990s New Eng. (along with the possible Patriots moves to St. Louis, Hartford or L.A.) had some interest as well in Baltimore (with Francis Scott Key and the Star Spangled Banner poem at the 1814 Fort McHenry battle), the Patriots name would have perfectly continued there. Then there's the legend about Cleveland owner Modell demanding the Oct. and Nov. 1993 not give the teams to Baltimore that were given first to Carolina and the following month to Jacksonville so that Modell could claim Baltimore all for himself since he needed to financially save himself by having somewhere to move the Browns, the state of Maryland virtually gave away the whole state to Modell just to have the NFL return back there.
@@gregpaspatis9425 Carolina got a team because the NFL did business with the Bank of America which is headquartered there
Ken Behring was hated in Seattle. He threatened to move the team LA if he didnt get a new stadium. Everyone said no to a new stadium. Then Paul Allen came along and said the only way he would buy the Team is if he got a new Stadium we said OK. Behring was like but thats what I wanted. We were like yea we dont like you. I would call the years he owned the Seahawks the Dark Days.
Yep, that about sums it up
The Chicago Bears also were gonna move. They were flirting with a few cities. The closest they came to was moving to Fairbanks, AK and becoming the Fairbanks Polar Bears.
Rim shot!
I think they Are moving out of Chicago, to a suburb. But out of Chcago, so they are legally not allowed to call themselves the Chicago Bears lest they repeatedly and easily lose false advertisement lawsuits. It's called bait & switch.
@@wankertanker1813uh, there are many teams that are not in the city they represent. The jets and giants are in New Jersey, the 49ers play in Santa Clara, the cowboys play in Arlington, and Washington plays in Maryland. There’s probably even more that I’m missing.
@@ErikCB912 they should lose a court cas for fraud, false advertising, and bait & switch.
Denver Broncos almost moved to Birmingham in 1966
Yepp, I just made a comment about that.👍
And also at one point, they expected to move to Winston-Salem North Carolina out of all places. WINSTON-SALEM!
@coltsfan69 Imagine If Denver Moved After a Few Years in Denver?
@@vinceniederman that would be awesome
@@coltsfan69 Otherwise Denver Doesn’t Win Those 3 Super Bowls With John Elway and Peyton Manning!
The Eagles have not been constant winners.
Seattle's Kingdom was structurally unsound and far more vulnerable to collapse than any public facility in Los Angeles.
Seattle is also on the ring of fire.
With this many teams want to move to LA they might as well move the entire NFL league to California 😂
In the 60’s there were talks that almost became serious on moving the packers to Miami. Imagine
The Vikings weren't the only franchise that wanted to move to LA. Mike Brown, owner of The Cincinnati Bengals, was threatening to move his team to Los Angeles if they didn't get a new stadium, and at the time, The Bengals were horrible (and calling them 'horrible' was an understatement.) The City of Cincinnati had lost a franchise before (The NBA's Royals left Cincinnati in 1973.), and city officials, including the mayor, didn't want that to happen again. So, thanks to the city's tax dollars, Paul Brown Stadium (now Paycore Stadium) was built in 2000.
You mean it was in 1972 when the NBA Royals relocated from Cincinnati.
BUCS TO BALTIMORE......you missed that one. Very close
Fun fact: when Baltimore was a finalist in the NFL expansion effort that got Jacksonville and Carolina teams, two out of the three ownership groups got NFL teams in other cities, Al Learner was awarded the new Cleveland Browns team and Malcom Glazier purchased the Buccaneers.
Boogie Weinglass owed the Merry Go Round clothing Chain and went Bankruptt.
The Baltimore Browns has a certain ring to it
Every city mentioned except Hartford has or has had an NFL team.
I always like to take the opportunity to say that Bud Adams was scum. He held the city and county up for renovations to the Astrodome at a time when Houston was flat on its back financially, then demanded another set of renovations a few years later. A poll taken in Houston at the time he moved the team to Tennessee discovered his favorability rating among Houstonians was 6% at the time. And if they'd known him in person, it would have been zero.
I do remember when they were gonna try to move jaguars to San Diego I think or LA one
Really? Well San Diego would have had the chargers and jaguars wow
@sumeetbeniwal6365 this was after chargers moved to la
@@philfrizzell4571 ohh ok. Makes sense.
I remember the LA Vikings rumors
MLB Giants to Tampa
Oakland A’s to Denver
MLB Twins to Greensboro, NC
Twins to Austin, Tx
Bob Irsay, tried to move the Colts to Phoenix, before the infamous "Move at Midnight." He arranged a meeting with then-Arizona Govenor Brue Babbitt, in Bakersfield California, to try not make it look too obvious.
Irsay also flew into Tampa into the middle of the stadium in a helicopter, if memory serves correctly. I think one of the things that shocked the local media in 1984 was that Indianapolis wasn’t necessary considered the front runner to land the team, should they move. Tampa was. There were even t-shirts or bumper stickers printed up at the time that read “Don’t Tampa with Our Colts” or something to that effect, appearing around Maryland.
@@kesschristopher I thought it in Jacksonville at the Gator Bowl where the rally was held.
@@rockvilleraven I believe you are correct
@@kesschristopher, yes it was Jacksonville.
I hope Minnesota does not lose the Vikings. The team fits the area perfectly, and I love the nod to the Nordic culture of the northern Midwest.
I fear in the future Minnesota’s football team is going to become the Minneapolis Somalian pirates 🏴☠️
Most Somalian immigrants who come to the US flood into Minneapolis
Should do top plays that almost happened but we’re called off due to penalties
So glad these moves didn't happen
Tampa Bay almost went to Birmingham
I never heard, i know the miami dolphins and Minnesota Viking came close to going to Birmingham, but not even once in a 1000 years would i expect the bucs going there. But wow i never knew
Back in the days I heard the Cowboys were supposed to come to Sacramento California. There was a car dealership owner by the name of Cal Worthington, who was in talks about buying them and moving them to Sacramento California.????? do you know anything about it?
As an Eagles Fan I’ve Never Heard of That Story About Dallas!
Hartford never had a stadium to move to
Minnesota Vikings in the 1970's and 1990's almost relocate to Birmingham Alabama.
Bill Bidwell, NFL‘s worst team owner.