I’ve always found it interesting how Metlife Stadium is nearly a carbon copy of Giants Stadium, just significantly more modernized. Hell, they went as far as making sure the Astroturf on the field was the same model used in the 1980’s at Giants Stadium, so that players got injured as often there as they did back in the 80’s!
False. I’ve played there. It’s standard modern FieldTurf. Tho, I did pull a quad working on my pregame goalpost dunks. Where was OBJ back then?! Oh yeah…on the team and complaining about other nonsense.
The Pontiac Superdome might be the largest dome, but it was not the largest at the time in the NFL. That would be Cleveland Municipal Stadium which held 81,000 for football then the Los Angeles Coliseum which held 92,000 at one time.
One stadium most fans don't remember was War Memorial Stadium, the original home of the Buffalo Bills. It was known in Buffalo as the Rockpile, no doubt because it was such a dump.
There is local resistance to doing that because off its historic significance as the first indoor/domed stadium, and was in many ways symbolic of Houston’s change from a “cow town” to the center of the space age.
Hey !!! This documentary forGOT to mention Texas Stadium,, (long time home of the Dallas COWboys)! It first opened up in Oct,1971. Thanks to Cowboys owner Jerrah Jones,, the Cowboys LAST game in Texas Stadium (Dallas suburb of Irving) took place in Dec, 2008. The stadium was totally demolished (via one push-button on the Implosion devices) on a Sunday Morning in April, 2010.
What about the Charlotte Coliseum or Original Hive located on Tyvola Road in Charlotte NC. A young arena that was demolished for a arena that has less seating.
Living near the DC area I'm expecting the announcement that RFK will be torn down, But it just sits there now with all of its history, DC United was the last to use it in 2018.
Who cares about stadiums like the Astrodome, and any of the stadiums that followed. Domed stadiums have or are in the process of ruining the NFL. R.I.P Metropolitan Stadium Yankee Stadium Kezar Stadium Pitt Stadium Tulane Stadium Orange Bowl Municipal Stadium Jeppesen Stadium Comisky Park Griffith Stadium Memorial Stadium Tiger Stadium 🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈
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Georgia Dome being replaced was completely pointless. Both Arthur Blank and this video's host stated stupid things as the reasons for its replacement. Owner of the Falcons Arthur Blank wanted a Super Bowl to be hosted in Atlanta again and the video host said it was make them more competitive. Both outrageous if u ask me and waste of tax payer money. This applies to Turner Field being replaced as well aka the Atlanta Braves stadium before the current Sun Trust Park.
The person who did this video missed more than just two. There was also the Kingdome in Seattle Washington that was home to the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Mariners.
You forgot to mention the Jack Murphy Stadium was then renamed Qualcomm in San Diego. Also, what about multipurpose venues like Shea, Veterans, Three Rivers and a few others that were left out?
Agreed. Too many were left out. I “get” that he was trying to keep it at ten, but considering the big shift from the 1960 “cookie cutter” all-purpose stadia to purpose-built or sports-specific stadia in the 21st century, he even chose the wrong stadium for Atlanta. Considering how the astrodome still exists (albeit vacant) and the stadia at Meadowlands and Atlanta were simply built next door, he should have concentrated on those 1960s venues instead.
Shibe Park, the Eagles old home, is pronounced with a long i sound. It took two attempts to demolish the Silverdome as the charges were detonated the first time, but nothing else happened. The charges went off the next day. The roof of the Georgia Dome was damaged by a tornado during the Southeastern Conference men's basketball tournament and forced the remainder of the tournament to be moved to the Georgia Tech campus.
Eventually Shibe Park would become Connie Mack Stadium; by then the Philadelphia Eagles were playing at Franklin Field on the campus of the University of Pennsylvania before moving, along with the Phillies, to the (now demolished) Veterans Stadium in 1971, only less than a "stone's throw" from the former Municipal/JFK Stadium.
What? nothing about former Viking stadiums, the Metrodome & Metropolitan stadium. Both of these venues had unique qualities that should have been included in this video. Shoddy research
@@davidwesley2525 Did you miss a word? I said it's pronounced "Saint Lewis," not it's spelled that way. That means the word is a homophone for "Lewis." At 0:19, the narrator pronounces it "Sint Looie," pronouncing it like a British interpretation of how a Frenchman would pronounce "St-Louis."
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You forgot The old Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, 3 River Stadium, River Front Stadium, Veteran Stadium, RFK Stadium, the Metrodome and the RCA Dome. The Astrodome has no business being on this list on a count it is still standing. It is just no longer in use.
I went to 1 game at old Busch Memorial Stadium. I stayed at the round hotel on the right side of the screen at 1:10. 9:30 old JFK stadium. Went there a couple of time to see concerts. Place was a cave and the mens rooms had horse troughs to piss in. It hosted Live Aid in 1985. It did host the Philadelphia Bell of the World Football League. And Shibe Park(Connie Mack Stadium) was pronounced Shybe and not Shibb. Also, in the area of JFK Stadium was also Veterans Stadium and the famous Philadelphia Spectrum. All 3 venues are now gone replaced by Lincoln Financial Field(Eagles), Citizens Bank Park(Phillies), and Wells Fargo Center(Sixers/Flyers).
As proud as Houston was to build the first domed stadium, the Astrodome has turned into a white elephant. It costs around a million dollars a year just to secure the site. Last I heard it would cost $60 million to tear it down and over $200 million to turn it into a modern convention center.
As someone who lives 15 minutes from where the silver dome was I remember when it collapsed due to snow that year, there was over a foot of snow on the roof and had too much pressure. Then in 2017 I got woken up on a saturday morning by a loud boom which I later found out was the dome getting demolished a whole 10-15 miles away
It was impressive building to me when I seen the Michigan Panthers, a USFL football team back in the late 80's. An experience for a small town kid like I was at the time.
There was no mention of Cleveland Municipal Stadium or Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati and the pronunciation of Shibe Park in Philadelphia was butchered... Pretty lousy video if you ask me.....
Another Philadelphia sporting venue (besides JFK Stadium) that no longer exists is Veterans Stadium, which hosted both Eagles and Phillies games until it was demolished in 2004.
@@Rockhound6165 I'm sorry to have dredged up those unpleasant memories for you. I enjoyed my times at the Vet (and have a picture of it in my room), though I was quite young when I went to sporting events there, and my mother would basically bring a bag of stuff to keep me occupied while she and my dad watched the game.
@@Rockhound6165 Ah, my mistake. I remember going with my family to the Vet for a Christmas event where you got to walk on the field, see the locker rooms, and have some Christmas-themed food and drinks, and can recall seeing a dead rat on its back as we walked around.
Not really. St. Louis had the Cardinals, and the Football Cardinals (and once upon a time, the Browns - now the Baltimore Orioles). Baseball is the religion of St. Louis - it's safe to assume that if someone in St. Louis, then as now, was talking about the Cardinals they meant the baseball team.
I remember as a kid watching the Dolphins at the Orange Bowl on a black and white tv. Something has been lost with all these new, modern, state-of-the-art stadiums. I remember watching the Jets and Bills playing a game at Shea Stadium with half the field covered in snow and the other half in mud with a nice big lake. That was how football was meant to be played and I'd rather watch an old game TH-cam than anything playing now.
So many stadiums are missing on this list: - Metrodome - Veterans Stadium - Three Rivers Stadium - Riverfront Stadium (Cinergy Field) - Texas Stadium - RFK Stadium - Cleveland Municipal Stadium - Baltimore Memorial Stadium - Kingdome - Mile High Stadium - Foxborough Stadium - RCA Dome - Shibe Park There might be more but this is what I can think.
Interesting but the mispronunciations are rough. St. "Louie" Cardinals and "Sheebe" park make my eye twitch. Also, Atlanta is just stealing tax payers' money. A stadium lasting just 20 years is a joke.
This is just bad. I got 2 stadiums in and quit. You killed me with St LOUIE, then follow up with bad information on the Astrodome. I gave up after that...
Because when the Rams were in St. Louis, they used the building that was then named the Edward Jones Dome, and that building still stands as part of St. Louis' convention center albeit, under a different name. Even though there isn't any major sports teams that play there anymore, it is still an economic battery for downtown STL, and it has paid for itself like 9 times over, and is still very profitable.
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I’ve always found it interesting how Metlife Stadium is nearly a carbon copy of Giants Stadium, just significantly more modernized. Hell, they went as far as making sure the Astroturf on the field was the same model used in the 1980’s at Giants Stadium, so that players got injured as often there as they did back in the 80’s!
only for Giants players, the Jets don't seem to lead the league in injuries every year while playing in the same building.
False. I’ve played there. It’s standard modern FieldTurf. Tho, I did pull a quad working on my pregame goalpost dunks.
Where was OBJ back then?! Oh yeah…on the team and complaining about other nonsense.
When they tore down Giants Stadium we were all sure they were going to find the remains of Jimmy Hoffa.
They did, they just covered it up.
That's just a conspiracy theory.....that they didn't find him. 😝
What?
One Sunday night on Sports Center I heard Keith Olbermann refer to Giants Stadium as "Hoffa Memorial ".😆😆😆
@@cejd10 google Jimmy Hoffa like i did cause was confused too
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Wow, no mention of the Kingdome in Seattle.
Wells Fargo Center (Orginally named the CoreState Center/First Union Center/Wachovia Center) is now in JFK stadiums place
The Pontiac Superdome might be the largest dome, but it was not the largest at the time in the NFL. That would be Cleveland Municipal Stadium which held 81,000 for football then the Los Angeles Coliseum which held 92,000 at one time.
Who is Saint Louie?
The last game to the Georgia Dome was a nfc championship game …The Falcons went on to the super bowl not the playoffs…
One stadium most fans don't remember was War Memorial Stadium, the original home of the Buffalo Bills. It was known in Buffalo as the Rockpile, no doubt because it was such a dump.
What about Memorial Stadium in Baltimore.
these abandoned stadiums should be used for homeless shelter.
Older stadiums look better than the newer ones
I totally agree. Why’d they have to make MetLife so dull?
No Riverfront stadium, Cincinnati, Memorial stadium, Baltimore, Municipal stadium Minnesota.
Might want to check your history on JFK stadium. JFK was assasinated 1963 so how could he have a stadium in the 1930's?
Why wasn’t the Astrodome demolished?
There is local resistance to doing that because off its historic significance as the first indoor/domed stadium, and was in many ways symbolic of Houston’s change from a “cow town” to the center of the space age.
Astrodome was registered as a landmark
Hey !!! This documentary forGOT to mention Texas Stadium,, (long time home of the Dallas COWboys)! It first opened up in Oct,1971. Thanks to Cowboys owner Jerrah Jones,, the Cowboys LAST game in Texas Stadium (Dallas suburb of Irving) took place in Dec, 2008. The stadium was totally demolished (via one push-button on the Implosion devices) on a Sunday Morning in April, 2010.
You forgot the Metrodome
you forgot Veterans Stadium which succeeded John F Kennedy Stadium
@MegaBrendan
Didn't the Eagles move
to Veterans Stadium directly from
Franklin Field?
What about the Charlotte Coliseum or Original Hive located on Tyvola Road in Charlotte NC. A young arena that was demolished for a arena that has less seating.
My bad NFL stadium.
Best acoustics for a concert. The baffled ceiling.
Less seating, less parking, absolutely zero character. Spectrum Center is a big fat POS.
Cleveland Municipal Stadium!
Top 10 stadiums.... but toss in one thats still there 😂
Astrodome still exists the building still in Houston *not demolished yet*
It's pronounced Lou Iss not Lou Eee
Omg the way it pronounces St. Louis😱
The script for the computer narration in this video is atrocious!
too much money
The s in Louis is not silent as we are not french, stop mispronouncing St. Louis.
It is St. Louis not St. Louie you dolt.
I have family from St. Louie, and that's how the locals pronounce it.
Wow JFK was gorgeous
Whose idea was it for a british guy to be narrator? He's pronouncing everything wrong
It's St. Louis not St. Louie
Living near the DC area I'm expecting the announcement that RFK will be torn down, But it just sits there now with all of its history, DC United was the last to use it in 2018.
Who cares about stadiums like the Astrodome, and any of the stadiums that followed.
Domed stadiums have
or are in the process of
ruining the NFL.
R.I.P
Metropolitan Stadium
Yankee Stadium
Kezar Stadium
Pitt Stadium
Tulane Stadium
Orange Bowl
Municipal Stadium
Jeppesen Stadium
Comisky Park
Griffith Stadium
Memorial Stadium
Tiger Stadium
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U brit its pronounced St Louis ! Not St louie !!!! Say the name right !!!
this audio quality is painful, had to stop watching.
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Inahte u
“10 NFL Stadiums That No Longer Exist.”
The Astrodome: still exists.
Would have been better to talk about the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome, which was knocked down in 2013 and US Bank Stadium built in its place.
Guy states it is still standing until this day. But it was easy to miss
Jeppensen Stadium where the original Oilers played is gone. University of Houston built their new stadium on the site.
@@jamesfields2916
Jeppesen
Georgia Dome being replaced was completely pointless. Both Arthur Blank and this video's host stated stupid things as the reasons for its replacement. Owner of the Falcons Arthur Blank wanted a Super Bowl to be hosted in Atlanta again and the video host said it was make them more competitive. Both outrageous if u ask me and waste of tax payer money.
This applies to Turner Field being replaced as well aka the Atlanta Braves stadium before the current Sun Trust Park.
It’s pronounced Saint Loo-iss
The idea of Candlestick Park hosting Paul McCartney for its last event was a nod to the Beatles playing their last live concert there in 1966.
The Georgia Dome hosted both basketball and gymnastics at the 1996 Olympic Games.
Two you missed, the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome in Minneapolis, and The Hoosier Dome in Indianapolis.
The person who did this video missed more than just two. There was also the Kingdome in Seattle Washington that was home to the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Mariners.
RFK Stadium too
You forgot to mention the Jack Murphy Stadium was then renamed Qualcomm in San Diego. Also, what about multipurpose venues like Shea, Veterans, Three Rivers and a few others that were left out?
Agreed. Too many were left out. I “get” that he was trying to keep it at ten, but considering the big shift from the 1960 “cookie cutter” all-purpose stadia to purpose-built or sports-specific stadia in the 21st century, he even chose the wrong stadium for Atlanta. Considering how the astrodome still exists (albeit vacant) and the stadia at Meadowlands and Atlanta were simply built next door, he should have concentrated on those 1960s venues instead.
@@JBM425 interesting fact three river stadium was open in 16th July 1970
Why talk about the other ones when they are basically the same.
What are you talking about..they talk about.
5:42
Should have mentioned that the Astrodome is considered a national monument so they cannot tear it down
Shibe Park, the Eagles old home, is pronounced with a long i sound.
It took two attempts to demolish the Silverdome as the charges were detonated the first time, but nothing else happened. The charges went off the next day.
The roof of the Georgia Dome was damaged by a tornado during the Southeastern Conference men's basketball tournament and forced the remainder of the tournament to be moved to the Georgia Tech campus.
Eventually Shibe Park would become Connie Mack Stadium; by then the Philadelphia Eagles were playing at Franklin Field on the campus of the University of Pennsylvania before moving, along with the Phillies, to the (now demolished) Veterans Stadium in 1971, only less than a "stone's throw" from the former Municipal/JFK Stadium.
What? nothing about former Viking stadiums, the Metrodome & Metropolitan stadium. Both of these venues had unique qualities that should have been included in this video. Shoddy research
The "Cardinals" names are unrelated: the football team was the Chicago Cardinals long before they moved to St. Louis.
And in St. Louis they (football) were called Big Red by almost everyone as the baseball team were the Cardinals.
Protip: The city in the United States is pronounced "Saint Lewis," not "Saint Looie."
I like his pronunciation better. British people sound so distinguished!
Bugs Bunny said "later screwy, see you in St. Louie" lol
Katherine Berger. St. Louis is spelled
S A I N T L O U I S . instead of Lewis.
@@davidwesley2525 Did you miss a word? I said it's pronounced "Saint Lewis," not it's spelled that way. That means the word is a homophone for "Lewis."
At 0:19, the narrator pronounces it "Sint Looie," pronouncing it like a British interpretation of how a Frenchman would pronounce "St-Louis."
@@katherineberger6329 many people pronounced it Saint Louie . Many people use slang instead of proper English. That's what separates Americans from the British.
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You forgot The old Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, 3 River Stadium, River Front Stadium, Veteran Stadium, RFK Stadium, the Metrodome and the RCA Dome. The Astrodome has no business being on this list on a count it is still standing. It is just no longer in use.
And maybe I missed it multitasking but did it forget Texas Stadium too?
How do you miss mile high stadium?
You failed to mention that the Silverdome hosted Super Bowl XVI
Georgia Dome as hosted 1996 Olympic Games
'MetLife Stadium is the most expensive stadium to be built to date.' I thought SoFi in Inglewood, CA cost $5 BILLION to build.
Candlestick park is a stadium I been too before it sucks its gone
I went to 1 game at old Busch Memorial Stadium. I stayed at the round hotel on the right side of the screen at 1:10. 9:30 old JFK stadium. Went there a couple of time to see concerts. Place was a cave and the mens rooms had horse troughs to piss in. It hosted Live Aid in 1985. It did host the Philadelphia Bell of the World Football League. And Shibe Park(Connie Mack Stadium) was pronounced Shybe and not Shibb. Also, in the area of JFK Stadium was also Veterans Stadium and the famous Philadelphia Spectrum. All 3 venues are now gone replaced by Lincoln Financial Field(Eagles), Citizens Bank Park(Phillies), and Wells Fargo Center(Sixers/Flyers).
It's pronounced "Saint Lou-ISS" lol
4:26 Foreign guy mentions soccer drawing huge crowd... shows empty upper level.
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Soccer sucks.
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Jesuit is not pronounced “JEE-soot.” It’s “JEH-zhoo-it.”
The original Busch Stadium is converted into the current Busch Stadium in Saint Louis 🏟️
Metrodome? Metropolitan stadium?
Add Tiger Stadium, where the pathetic Detroit Lions pretended to play football.
So the Building where Hogan slammed Andre is now an Amazon Warehouse...
Crap hole it is but I prefer Candlestick Park as much as I like Levi Stadium
“The Jack Murphy Stadium”?! That’s the Murph to you Jack!!
How could one forget about the metrodome for the Minnesota Vikings?
Or its predecessor, Metropolitan Stadium.
Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome, after a well-known roof collapse, was rebuilt to become U.S. Bank Stadium.
Sadly, the roof of the metrodome was no match for those harsh Minnesota winters.
Rest is peace ponitic silver dome
The 'S' at the end of 'Louis' isn't silent btw!
"Gee-suit High."
Bot much?
As proud as Houston was to build the first domed stadium, the Astrodome has turned into a white elephant. It costs around a million dollars a year just to secure the site. Last I heard it would cost $60 million to tear it down and over $200 million to turn it into a modern convention center.
How can you leave off Texas Stadium. Home of America’s team from 1971-2008. Demolished in 2010.
You mean America’s Crack Wagon.
As someone who lives 15 minutes from where the silver dome was I remember when it collapsed due to snow that year, there was over a foot of snow on the roof and had too much pressure. Then in 2017 I got woken up on a saturday morning by a loud boom which I later found out was the dome getting demolished a whole 10-15 miles away
It was impressive building to me when I seen the Michigan Panthers, a USFL football team back in the late 80's. An experience for a small town kid like I was at the time.
There was no mention of Cleveland Municipal Stadium or Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati and the pronunciation of Shibe Park in Philadelphia was butchered... Pretty lousy video if you ask me.....
Agreed. Could be done better. Literally no one called the old Murph "San Diego Stadium."
Baltimore memorial or Tampa stadium wasn't mention.
All these many hosted for WrestleManias, except Busch Stadium...
Another Philadelphia sporting venue (besides JFK Stadium) that no longer exists is Veterans Stadium, which hosted both Eagles and Phillies games until it was demolished in 2004.
Just the very mention of the Vet brings back memories of stale beer and piss.
@@Rockhound6165 I'm sorry to have dredged up those unpleasant memories for you. I enjoyed my times at the Vet (and have a picture of it in my room), though I was quite young when I went to sporting events there, and my mother would basically bring a bag of stuff to keep me occupied while she and my dad watched the game.
@@Stussmeister I didn't say I didn't enjoy my time at the Vet, just that it has an air of stale beer and piss.
@@Rockhound6165 Ah, my mistake. I remember going with my family to the Vet for a Christmas event where you got to walk on the field, see the locker rooms, and have some Christmas-themed food and drinks, and can recall seeing a dead rat on its back as we walked around.
@@Stussmeister I got to go onto the field when I was in little league. It was really cool hanging out with the Phillies and Pirates.
Cincinnati River front stadium was used for Baseball & Football
Funny that St. Louie had 2 teams called the Cardinals and they both played in the same stadium. That must have been confusing.
Not really. St. Louis had the Cardinals, and the Football Cardinals (and once upon a time, the Browns - now the Baltimore Orioles). Baseball is the religion of St. Louis - it's safe to assume that if someone in St. Louis, then as now, was talking about the Cardinals they meant the baseball team.
@@katherineberger6329Yes,🏈 football teams don't usually have a first baseman.
@@tomloft2000 Oddly enough, from 1982-1994, the Minnesota Twins had a linebacker (Kent Hrbek).
I remember as a kid watching the Dolphins at the Orange Bowl on a black and white tv. Something has been lost with all these new, modern, state-of-the-art stadiums. I remember watching the Jets and Bills playing a game at Shea Stadium with half the field covered in snow and the other half in mud with a nice big lake. That was how football was meant to be played and I'd rather watch an old game TH-cam than anything playing now.
So many stadiums are missing on this list:
- Metrodome
- Veterans Stadium
- Three Rivers Stadium
- Riverfront Stadium (Cinergy Field)
- Texas Stadium
- RFK Stadium
- Cleveland Municipal Stadium
- Baltimore Memorial Stadium
- Kingdome
- Mile High Stadium
- Foxborough Stadium
- RCA Dome
- Shibe Park
There might be more but this is what I can think.
Interesting but the mispronunciations are rough. St. "Louie" Cardinals and "Sheebe" park make my eye twitch.
Also, Atlanta is just stealing tax payers' money. A stadium lasting just 20 years is a joke.
This is just bad. I got 2 stadiums in and quit. You killed me with St LOUIE, then follow up with bad information on the Astrodome. I gave up after that...
First one.......is the St LEWIS Cardinals!!!!!
Not, 'St Louis/Louey Cardinals'!!
12:34 That looks like a menistral pad I'm Sorry X'D
u forgot the veterans stadium
St Louey Cadinals. American sport British accent. Funny
Nah....most of us remember the former stadium in San Diego as "The Murph."
It's St. Louis not St. Louie
Where’s the Vet?? The most notorious of all stadiums. Dumb list
I knew San Diego Stadium as Qualcomm
It's St Louis not St Lewie.
6:00 no they do not
So yall just gonna omit Mile High Stadium? Crazy
J.F.K in 1936 ?
Silverdome
St Loui lol
St louie?
Um, something seams off about the JFK one…
Where is Saint Looey? Saint Looey Rams? P.S Astrodome still exists, no-one ever calls it San Diego Stadium and no mention of the Kingdome.
Because when the Rams were in St. Louis, they used the building that was then named the Edward Jones Dome, and that building still stands as part of St. Louis' convention center albeit, under a different name.
Even though there isn't any major sports teams that play there anymore, it is still an economic battery for downtown STL, and it has paid for itself like 9 times over, and is still very profitable.