I just did the monitor swap with the Dell e1715s and your video was extremely helpful and made the swap a breeze. Night and day difference. Excellent contrast and black levels. No more wash out.
Thank you for making this a guy like me needs this step by step to make sure everything goes smoothly, it’s unfortunate that we have to do this in the first place, but thank you!
Thanks for this. Good details here. I swapped out the monitor with my new build. I'm really glad I did it from the start instead of trying to replace it afterwards.
Thank you for the video! I followed the instructions and my cabinet looks beautiful now! I did my own mod of this cabinet, I modified the joysticks swapping it to a traditional setup, exchanged the screen board by the Owootecc NT68676 (luckily it worked) and added my pi to the cabinet, with batocera and sinden lightguns. The screen swap made a huge difference, looks like a new cabinet now. Thanks once again!
I used your video last winter for Joust. Now I used it again for Centipede. Makes a huge difference. Lastly I'll do Dig Dug in a few weeks. Thanks again. This was the best step by step
The stool didn't fix the issue, although it improved a bit. Bought a Dell monitor, followed your instructions and the difference is astonishing. The viewing angles are much better with no noticeable fade out. It's not as good as the BOE monitor in my Defender partycade, but seems on par with my Star Wars cab. This is what they should have shipped with. Considering the sheer number or Legacy cabs that have garbage monitors, it's evident that Arcade 1up won't do anything about it. So we have to do it ourselves. The Dell is inexpensive and basically a drop in replacement. Get it while you can.
Great video thanks! I’m wanting the MK 30 but have held my purchase back due to the monitor issue. It was nice seeing exactly what I’m in for if I choose to get it and upgrade the monitor. Doesn’t seem too bad.
Thanks for this video. I had it on as I did the mod to my new cabinet last night, was very handy. Regarding a comment you made in the video, putting the last side panel on, yes that is annoying hah, trying to remove all specs of dust when changing the monitor is just as bad though :D
If you're six feet tall, it makes a huge impact on play. Once I walk up on it, I can see fade out. I guess I'm a couple of inches too tall. I got a stool for the cab to see if that helps. If it doesn't then I'm off to get a new monitor.
I'm about to swap this out for my Marvel versus Capcom 2 cabinet because of the millisecond response time. Since it is a different aspect ratio will that matter.
I just built my Centipede yesterday, very unhappy with the monitor. I’m not one who usually complains about the quality of the controls or screens in A1Ups, but this screen is noticeably washed out. If I had been smart I would have followed this video and replaced the monitor before assembling the cabinet. This cabinet was a real struggle to assemble and the idea of even partially reopening it is not something I want to do. Plus it’s still going to be a horizontal monitor in a Centipede cab. 🙁
@@DannyWelch I knew it. It’s like step 1. Actually come to think of it, after you put together an arcade, the last page of the instruction book should also say congrats now go get yourself a miller lite.
Quick question…im trying to purchase this monitor but I finding some selling it as a dell e1715se…but the box says it’s a dell e1715s…is that still the same monitor?
It technically works, but in my testing it doesn't look good when viewed from the sides in vertical cabinets. That kept me from picking up the Dig Dug or Pacmania cabinets.
@@DannyWelch Thanks for the reply. I ordered the Dig Dug.. I couldn't pass up the artwork on the cabinet. I'm going to fix the marquee once it comes in.
I’m curious as to why you’re replacing it.. better blacks is my guess…? Is this an IPS monitor? I have converted 2 separate NBA JAM cabinets into multicabs, 2 player cabs. So each person is slightly off center, left and right… One of the multicabs is for horizontal games, the other is for,vertical games (turning monitors vertical is usually where problems are, they just don’t look as good as they do horizontally.) Thanks
Mostly for the black/contrast level and off-angle viewing in this case. The TN monitor they used in the MK/Centipede/Pacmania/DigDug cabinets have pretty poor black levels and the color washes out quite a bit when viewed from above, which is really bad for taller players when standing. Do not use the Dell E1715s panel in a vertical cabinet. 19kfox did that in his Pacmania cabinet and it is really bad when viewed off-angle from the left. Not a problem at all in a horizontal cabinet though.
@@DannyWelch thanks for the detailed explanation. I’m on the look for a vertical monitor 17” or more that looks good from all angles… Question is does it exist?
@@DannyWelch it’s driving me nuts! I’ve plugged in multiple speakers and none of them work so I know it’s not that. Everything is plugged in tight. Do you know which wire has a direct effect on sound?
@@cjcin23 I don’t believe any wire is involved, since the speaker jack is mounted directly to the mainboard. The cables to the monitor are for video out and backlight power. Did you screw the ground cable to the monitor chassis when you put the mainboard back on? I don’t think that would disable the audio, but it’s the only thing I can think might impact it.
@@DannyWelch thanks for all your help! Arcade1up sent me a new pcb but that didn’t wasn’t the issue. Then they sent me a new audio cable that plugs from the pcb to the control panel. And that was it! Turns out the one I was using had a prong missing. Probably broke off at some point.
Just picked up a 1up Centipede in the sale and picked up a e1715 for this exact reason. You have another video for the BOE monitor that has better blacks but doesn't fit as neatly. Is there any way you could adjust the e1715 settings for better contrast/brightness before you install or are the monitor settings parts removed in the transplant so to speak?
Only the panel is swapped, so the settings wouldn’t follow (unfortunately). There’s a chance someone will develop an add-on board. I bought one for my 1st gen Galaga.
So I did that why my golden tee 3d xl cab and swapped monitors but now I noticed the screen is dark. I can faintly see the loading screen when I turn on the game followed by the rest but how can I turn up the brightness now that the monitor has been decased and installed?
Not aware of a way to adjust it. It is set by the board providing input (the A1up board in this case). I’ve seen kits before that allow you to adjust the backlight, but that’s it.
That’s an excellent question and something I didn’t do before my swap. I assumed that the monitor board is what remembers and controls that, and the panel is just dumb. I’ll be swapping my Centipede with a replacement soon and will do some testing.
Did you ever find any additional info on this? I just did a swap into my new Dig Dug legacy cabinet and it seems way too bright, I would love to figure out if there's a way to adjust the settings.
So my mk 30 anniversary comes tomorrow your saying if im playing on it it’s completely fine right? Only if looking at from a distance or if its next to other cabinets which i dont have. Just making sure what you said. Thanks
That’s hard to say as everyone has a different opinion, but it isn’t bad straight on unless you’re really tall. I’m 6’3”, so there is color fade with the stock monitor for me. With the Dell replacement, it’s flawless.
Couldn't say. You'd need to disassemble it (should be somewhat similar process) and see if the connectors match up and you can get it mounted into the frame.
Can confirm you absolutely can IF you have an LED backlit LCD driver. I was using an adapter from VSDISPLAY since I was using a raspberry pi. Works great and looks much better
I have some questions: The Dell E1715s is listed online as a TN Panel. I thought that video was claiming that it is a BOE monitor, but this may be referring to other Aracade1up monitors. Is the Dell better than Aracade1up? Dell says that E1715s has a 5:4 aspect ratio. I thought that the Aracade1ups had a 4:3 aspect ratio? Will this work in my Atari 10 game cabinet? My display is malfunctioning. I saw an E170Sb for sale that seemed to have the same specifications as the E1715s. Should I stick with the E1715s?
It is not a replacement for the BOE. As you noted, it is 5:4, which was the ratio used in a handful of A1Ups (Atari Legacy Centipede, Midway Legacy MK and Joust, Dig Dug, and Super Pac Man). If you need a replacement for any 4:3 cabinet, I would try to get a BOE.
@@DannyWelch I haven't yet found the official size and resolution of the Atari 12-in-1 arcade, but I did a crude measurement and got roughly 10.75 x 13.125, which is roughly 4:5. That works out to be about 17.1 inches. I'm going to see if I can find the official dimensions.
Does it have to be the E1715S, or any Dell or likewise 17"? I have the asteroids partycade wall mounted and my screen is normal for a period of time, but will go all white although I can still hear the game playing.
For the Asteroids partycade, you probably don't want the Dell E1715S as it's a 5:4 aspect ratio and yours is likely 4:3. If you open up your partycade and look at the back of the monitor, you can see if it is a BOE brand. If so, then I'd suggest looking for a replacement A1Up BOE monitor.
I'm about to get my monitor to replace the 1st gen arcade1up MK cab. Would it be possible to configure the monitors brightness and contrast before installing it in the arcade1up? Perhaps it will safe my brightness settings.
I don't think it will save those settings. I believe that is controlled by a separate board in the monitor and by the A1up mainboard once you do the swap.
@@DannyWelch Roger that, I ended up swapping my old monitor from my 2019 MK cab and everything worked, but quality was exactly the same lol. All that trouble for the same exact visuals🤣 Well, at least I have a spare monitor in the future.
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I just did the monitor swap with the Dell e1715s and your video was extremely helpful and made the swap a breeze. Night and day difference. Excellent contrast and black levels. No more wash out.
Just switched out the monitor on my new Mortal Kombat 30th anniversary. Thank you for making this video.
It's unfortunate that we have to do it, but it's a fairly low cost upgrade that really makes that cabinet great.
Thank you for making this a guy like me needs this step by step to make sure everything goes smoothly, it’s unfortunate that we have to do this in the first place, but thank you!
Just trying to pay it forward. I've learned SO much from everyone else in the community. =)
Thanks for this. Good details here. I swapped out the monitor with my new build. I'm really glad I did it from the start instead of trying to replace it afterwards.
Thank you for the video! I followed the instructions and my cabinet looks beautiful now! I did my own mod of this cabinet, I modified the joysticks swapping it to a traditional setup, exchanged the screen board by the Owootecc NT68676 (luckily it worked) and added my pi to the cabinet, with batocera and sinden lightguns. The screen swap made a huge difference, looks like a new cabinet now. Thanks once again!
I used your video last winter for Joust. Now I used it again for Centipede. Makes a huge difference. Lastly I'll do Dig Dug in a few weeks. Thanks again. This was the best step by step
Wow. Im suprised how simple that was! Thanks for the easy step by step .
Great installation tutorial! Now, to go find that monitor. Thanks for the video.
Thank you! Love the look of the Joust cabinet but heard nothing but bad things about the monitor. Will definitely do this
I just did this mod with the same exact monitor. Being 6'2, the difference is HUGE and well worth it. Monitor cost me $25 on ebay.
Just tried this and it worked like charm, thanks!!
Thank you for showing this step by step! This will be a HUGE help!
Thanks man! I just did this swap using your video as a guide.
The stool didn't fix the issue, although it improved a bit. Bought a Dell monitor, followed your instructions and the difference is astonishing.
The viewing angles are much better with no noticeable fade out. It's not as good as the BOE monitor in my Defender partycade, but seems on par with my Star Wars cab.
This is what they should have shipped with. Considering the sheer number or Legacy cabs that have garbage monitors, it's evident that Arcade 1up won't do anything about it. So we have to do it ourselves. The Dell is inexpensive and basically a drop in replacement. Get it while you can.
We have ours on the way! Crossing my fingers and hoping it fixes the issue!
Awesome step by step tutorial. Thank you!
Mine arrives tomorrow, snappy fast mvc2 baby
Great video thanks! I’m wanting the MK 30 but have held my purchase back due to the monitor issue. It was nice seeing exactly what I’m in for if I choose to get it and upgrade the monitor. Doesn’t seem too bad.
Crack open a cold one. 1st step. Love it.
Thanks for this video. I had it on as I did the mod to my new cabinet last night, was very handy. Regarding a comment you made in the video, putting the last side panel on, yes that is annoying hah, trying to remove all specs of dust when changing the monitor is just as bad though :D
If you're six feet tall, it makes a huge impact on play. Once I walk up on it, I can see fade out. I guess I'm a couple of inches too tall. I got a stool for the cab to see if that helps. If it doesn't then I'm off to get a new monitor.
Nice job ! Very helpful 😀
Thanks!
@@DannyWelch I wish my cab was not built yet . The monitor is about 200$ in Canada but I think it will bother me if I don’t replace it ! Lol
Did it, worth it!
Great video!
Thanks!
Great video but it’s still a TN panel, is there an IPS panel you can use for an even better image?
How does the Dell monitor plug into the 1up PCB?
I'm about to swap this out for my Marvel versus Capcom 2 cabinet because of the millisecond response time. Since it is a different aspect ratio will that matter.
Did you end up doing the mod? Was it worth it? I'm really considering it.
I just built my Centipede yesterday, very unhappy with the monitor. I’m not one who usually complains about the quality of the controls or screens in A1Ups, but this screen is noticeably washed out. If I had been smart I would have followed this video and replaced the monitor before assembling the cabinet. This cabinet was a real struggle to assemble and the idea of even partially reopening it is not something I want to do. Plus it’s still going to be a horizontal monitor in a Centipede cab. 🙁
Is cracking open a cold one part of the decasing project?
Yes, I'm afraid this step is mandatory or the decasing police will be in touch.
@@DannyWelch I knew it. It’s like step 1. Actually come to think of it, after you put together an arcade, the last page of the instruction book should also say congrats now go get yourself a miller lite.
Hi there,
Great tutorial.
I found a Dell 1708FPb used for few bucks.
Does anybody know if this could work?
Thanks
will this work on a Dell E177FPc?
What dimmer did you use for your marquee? (May have been a a different video.)
Quick question…im trying to purchase this monitor but I finding some selling it as a dell e1715se…but the box says it’s a dell e1715s…is that still the same monitor?
Will this work with my 5-year-old Atari 12-in-1 system?
This didn’t work for us major disappointed, now we’re gonna have to return MK30th 😢
Sorry to hear that. Did the monitor swap not work at all or just not happy with the results?
@@DannyWelch yeah it didn’t work I would have to assume it’s the monitor that we bought.
any web link to where I get the these monitors?
I am wondering if something else will work. I saw an E170Sb for sale.
wondering the same, which other models can work with no adapters
Thanks for the video. This works for the Dig Dug as well even though it's vertical?
It technically works, but in my testing it doesn't look good when viewed from the sides in vertical cabinets. That kept me from picking up the Dig Dug or Pacmania cabinets.
@@DannyWelch Thanks for the reply. I ordered the Dig Dug.. I couldn't pass up the artwork on the cabinet. I'm going to fix the marquee once it comes in.
@@Th3DarkCanuck I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. Really is a great looking cabinet.
I’m curious as to why you’re replacing it.. better blacks is my guess…? Is this an IPS monitor? I have converted 2 separate NBA JAM cabinets into multicabs, 2 player cabs. So each person is slightly off center, left and right… One of the multicabs is for horizontal games, the other is for,vertical games (turning monitors vertical is usually where problems are, they just don’t look as good as they do horizontally.) Thanks
Mostly for the black/contrast level and off-angle viewing in this case. The TN monitor they used in the MK/Centipede/Pacmania/DigDug cabinets have pretty poor black levels and the color washes out quite a bit when viewed from above, which is really bad for taller players when standing. Do not use the Dell E1715s panel in a vertical cabinet. 19kfox did that in his Pacmania cabinet and it is really bad when viewed off-angle from the left. Not a problem at all in a horizontal cabinet though.
@@DannyWelch thanks for the detailed explanation. I’m on the look for a vertical monitor 17” or more that looks good from all angles… Question is does it exist?
@@troymcdonald Great question. I have a monitor on the way that I'll be testing soon. Fingers crossed!
@@DannyWelch fingers, toes and eyes crossed 🤣
pixel look really bad if i upgade monitor do it fix the simpsons pixel????
Thanks, great video. I did all this but somehow loss sound. Any idea what I could have done wrong?
Hmm… I can’t think of anything related to the monitor swap that should impact that. Speakers connected to the board well?
@@DannyWelch it’s driving me nuts! I’ve plugged in multiple speakers and none of them work so I know it’s not that. Everything is plugged in tight. Do you know which wire has a direct effect on sound?
@@cjcin23 I don’t believe any wire is involved, since the speaker jack is mounted directly to the mainboard. The cables to the monitor are for video out and backlight power. Did you screw the ground cable to the monitor chassis when you put the mainboard back on? I don’t think that would disable the audio, but it’s the only thing I can think might impact it.
@@DannyWelch thanks for all your help! Arcade1up sent me a new pcb but that didn’t wasn’t the issue. Then they sent me a new audio cable that plugs from the pcb to the control panel. And that was it! Turns out the one I was using had a prong missing. Probably broke off at some point.
what about samsons monitor do this work too??
Just picked up a 1up Centipede in the sale and picked up a e1715 for this exact reason. You have another video for the BOE monitor that has better blacks but doesn't fit as neatly. Is there any way you could adjust the e1715 settings for better contrast/brightness before you install or are the monitor settings parts removed in the transplant so to speak?
Only the panel is swapped, so the settings wouldn’t follow (unfortunately). There’s a chance someone will develop an add-on board. I bought one for my 1st gen Galaga.
So I did that why my golden tee 3d xl cab and swapped monitors but now I noticed the screen is dark. I can faintly see the loading screen when I turn on the game followed by the rest but how can I turn up the brightness now that the monitor has been decased and installed?
Not aware of a way to adjust it. It is set by the board providing input (the A1up board in this case). I’ve seen kits before that allow you to adjust the backlight, but that’s it.
Thank you sir! I have two Dell 1517s brand new and one will go In my MK 30th. Do we have to adjust the monitor settings before removing the screen?
That’s an excellent question and something I didn’t do before my swap. I assumed that the monitor board is what remembers and controls that, and the panel is just dumb. I’ll be swapping my Centipede with a replacement soon and will do some testing.
@@DannyWelch Do you think that the screen itself can keep the settings in some kind of memory ? Or the settings are kept on the board..
@@al3xdodo I'm pretty sure it's controlled by the attached board.
Did you ever find any additional info on this? I just did a swap into my new Dig Dug legacy cabinet and it seems way too bright, I would love to figure out if there's a way to adjust the settings.
So my mk 30 anniversary comes tomorrow your saying if im playing on it it’s completely fine right? Only if looking at from a distance or if its next to other cabinets which i dont have. Just making sure what you said. Thanks
That’s hard to say as everyone has a different opinion, but it isn’t bad straight on unless you’re really tall. I’m 6’3”, so there is color fade with the stock monitor for me. With the Dell replacement, it’s flawless.
I managed to get a 17" Acer AL1716fb with 5ms would it be a swap just like you did here?
Couldn't say. You'd need to disassemble it (should be somewhat similar process) and see if the connectors match up and you can get it mounted into the frame.
can i do this without taking all apart? maybe just pull the monitor out from the back of th cab?
Yep. Just loosen the screws on both sides of the cabinet and you can pull it apart enough to get the monitor out. That’s what I did.
@@DannyWelch sweeeeeeet!!
Would I be able to put a Dell E1715s into a 1st gen Street Fighter II cabinet?
Can confirm you absolutely can IF you have an LED backlit LCD driver. I was using an adapter from VSDISPLAY since I was using a raspberry pi. Works great and looks much better
I have some questions: The Dell E1715s is listed online as a TN Panel. I thought that video was claiming that it is a BOE monitor, but this may be referring to other Aracade1up monitors. Is the Dell better than Aracade1up?
Dell says that E1715s has a 5:4 aspect ratio. I thought that the Aracade1ups had a 4:3 aspect ratio?
Will this work in my Atari 10 game cabinet? My display is malfunctioning. I saw an E170Sb for sale that seemed to have the same specifications as the E1715s. Should I stick with the E1715s?
It is not a replacement for the BOE. As you noted, it is 5:4, which was the ratio used in a handful of A1Ups (Atari Legacy Centipede, Midway Legacy MK and Joust, Dig Dug, and Super Pac Man). If you need a replacement for any 4:3 cabinet, I would try to get a BOE.
@@DannyWelch How do I get a BOE panel?
@@DannyWelch I haven't yet found the official size and resolution of the Atari 12-in-1 arcade, but I did a crude measurement and got roughly 10.75 x 13.125, which is roughly 4:5. That works out to be about 17.1 inches.
I'm going to see if I can find the official dimensions.
So I think that I can use the Dell E1715s.
Does the A1 board control power on/off to the new monitor just fine ?
Yep! It works just like the original, only better looking.
arcade 1 up suck they give us really bad monitor and pixel game and they sell cost so much for 1 arcade
will this monitor fit the new arcade 1ups like xmen?
Unsure. These monitors are 5:4, but most A1up cabinets use 4:3 monitors. Only a few cabs used 5:4.
Does it have to be the E1715S, or any Dell or likewise 17"? I have the asteroids partycade wall mounted and my screen is normal for a period of time, but will go all white although I can still hear the game playing.
For the Asteroids partycade, you probably don't want the Dell E1715S as it's a 5:4 aspect ratio and yours is likely 4:3. If you open up your partycade and look at the back of the monitor, you can see if it is a BOE brand. If so, then I'd suggest looking for a replacement A1Up BOE monitor.
@@DannyWelch ok thanks.
thanks!
I'm about to get my monitor to replace the 1st gen arcade1up MK cab. Would it be possible to configure the monitors brightness and contrast before installing it in the arcade1up?
Perhaps it will safe my brightness settings.
I don't think it will save those settings. I believe that is controlled by a separate board in the monitor and by the A1up mainboard once you do the swap.
@@DannyWelch Roger that, I ended up swapping my old monitor from my 2019 MK cab and everything worked, but quality was exactly the same lol. All that trouble for the same exact visuals🤣
Well, at least I have a spare monitor in the future.