It would really be great if they did. I hope that it gets adopted more widely. I would love to be able to use it on my Osee Megamon 15. Thanks for watching!
Yeah, I bought this monitor over other options ONLY for touch-focus which the Atomos website says is available when using the Canon R6mk2. I have the latest camera firmware and updates the Atomos to the new 11.01.01 firmware and still no luck. It's a deal-breaker for me if I can't get it so I submitted a ticket on their site. Hope to get good news soon.
Yeah, it does seem like aspects of this product were rushed to market. To my knowledge, the cables still are not available - not that I would buy them anyway, but still. Fingers crossed on the touch focus but I'm not holding my breath. Thanks for watching!
Just to add you mention the fan noise of the original Shinobi a few times? I’m not sure how as the original Shinobi has no fan just like the new version 2? Both Shinobi v1 and v2 are passively cooled. Unless you’re comparing it to the Ninja which of course has a fan.
I stand corrected - the comments from others that I was referring to must have applied to the 7" version. They both ran together in my brain. Thanks for setting me straight and thanks for watching!
They’re improving camera control and adding touch to focus with firmware soon I’ve heard them comment that on so many videos. Hopefully sooner than later 🤞🏻
Thanks for the info. At the time of my use, I was running 11.01.00. I see they're now on 11.01.01 but all the site says is "bug fixes and stability improvements". I know there were big-time issues prior to 11.01.00 - like recording being stopped if you left the camera control screen. I think the issues (and quick succession of updates) only gives more weight to my comments about poor decision making and/or bad planning on Atomos' part. OKAY - for real this time - I'll stop whining! 🤣 Thanks for watching!
This has a big overheating issue. Just bought mine as I was going through the menu system. And setting it up. The screen was very, very warm only after about thirty minutes of trying to figure out the menu system beware
Interesting. I've had no overheating issues with mine. It gets a bit warm during use, but nothing I would consider overheating. It may be your power source - are you using batteries or AC power?
Great review! Question, I’m new to monitors can you make the monitor come on/off with the camera? Without using the on/off button on the side of the monitor?
None of the monitors that I've owned have ever had that function. They all have to be turned on and off independent of the camera. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@@abertoon I know those are nice monitors, but given the functionality and quality of the Atomos offerings, I cannot justfy the significant price difference. The Focus is no longer available though, is it?
@@MattSpaugh I've had mine 7 years, so I doubt they are available new, but still worth picking up cheap 2nd hand. Has a lot of features missing from this Shinobi e.g. Customisable false colour, photo / grab option. I've loved mine but had head turned by the camera control features on the shinobi, hence why I'm here! Thanks for the insight
I have not noticed any heat build up. It does seem to get warmer when using the AC adapter for some reason but nothing major. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
I'm not sure you can. I use the RavenEye transmitter and my phone as my gimbal monitor, so I never had a need to try the Shinobi for that purpose. Not sure if that helps or not, but thanks for watching.
I have a Sony camera, and I don’t want my Shinobi monitor to charge the camera’s battery. However, I do want to keep the camera control feature enabled. Is there a way to disable the charging function while keeping camera control, or is disconnecting the camera control cable the only solution?
Not that I know of. I'm curious why you would not want a single 'pool' of battery power that both the camera and monitor are using. FWIW, after years of using larger batteries I've changed and now carry multiple smaller ones. For my rodeo videos, I use the smaller NP-F550 batteries in my monitor and keep an extra in my pocket along with a second NP-FZ100 for the camera.
I have the first Shinobi, warm colors and a bit more exposed image, not at all what I expected on a monitor like that, is this working better in that sense?
I always found the color on my Ninja to be relatively accurate. I feel like the Shinobi II is as good or better. Granted, I'm using custom loaded LUTs on mine. I use the Phantom LUTs (which I highly recommend) and find that the color is very accurate between the Shinobi II and my calibrated studio monitor. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@@MattSpaugh I've just bought the Shinobi II and the colors are way more accurate. As far as I've seen on the internet, some Shinobi eren't calibrated correctly and there was no way to fix it. Still the highlights are quite blown out, while on my Sony screen they're correctly exposed...
@@VictorPerezPl I experienced a similar thing with the highlights being blown. I shoot SLog-3, S-Gamut.Cine and I use the Phantom LUTs package. Once I loaded those LUTS and started using them, I found it to be much more accurate. Are you shooting LOG and are you using the internal Atomos conversion LUT?
There is a single HDMI input - no output. I use an Accsoon transmitter that has input and output so I run through that first and have the monitor at the end of the chain. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
FITZY'S GRANDMA! And did you notice I used "Karen" when I was complaining? That show is so timeless - I hope you're well, hey to Barb. Thanks for watching!
Yes, it's a separate piece that just has four screws that hold it in place. I actually left it on just to give some protection to the ports. With it in place, you can use standard cables, they just don't lock in place. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
hi Matt, new comment, serious question: I'm considering an Atomos Ninja (maybe Ultra) because I need a monitor to compose and manual focus video in the African bush, and I want to use the recording functionality. The main issues which concern me are 1.) screen size 2.) screen brightness 3.) fan noise 4.) weight. questions I have based on your experience with the Ninja and the Shinobi II: 1.) is a 5-inch screen big enough, or would a 7-inch be better, of course with size comes other problems, but in terms of being able to see clearly enough to focus mostly - my short range eyesight has gone pearshaped recently, reason I'm asking... 2.) you mention the specs of the Shinobi II and the brightness, the alternatives are: Ninja / Ninja Ultra: 1000cd/m2/nits Shogun (7-inch Monitor/recorder): 2000 +/- 10% whatever that means Shinobi II: 1500 as you stated in your video the conditions in Africa are generally harsh sunlight, alot of glare, etc - would you classify the Ninja brightness as very dull? 3.) is the Ninja fan noisy? 4.) the Ninja is heavier, and the Shogun almost double the weight, and price.... so I'd appreciate your opinion on the above if you have the time thanks russ
I'll try to hit these in order: 1) I've own and use both 5 and 7 inch monitors and while I love the additional real estate, the 7" monitors are just too awkward as a camera-mount monitor. The 5" for me is the sweet spot. 2) 1000 nits doesn't do the job for me outdoors. The 1500 nit Shinobi II worked perfect for me in direct sunlight at a recent outdoor event. You can always add a hood but I don't think it would be necessary with the Shinobi II. 3) My Ninja fan is almost inaudible. 4) The weight of the Ninja is not really a huge factor to me (size is but not weight so much) and I have no first hand experience with the Shogun so I can't offer a solid opinion. If you don't need a recorder, the Shinobi II is going to be hard to beat. If you do, the Ninja has always been a really solid, reliable performer for me. I hope that helps, good luck with your decision and thanks for watching!
It's the one that came with my Ninja. If I remember correctly, a "universal" NP-F plate would not work with the Ninja. Hope that helps, thanks for watching.
🤣 - Well, there was only 24 hours between my first and second rodeos so, yeah, but not much. Thanks for watching!
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My batteries rattles on this monitor. I need to place a small price of cardboard between the battery and the unit to fix this. I have tried different batteries with he same issue. Any one else experiencing this?
I'd guess that something is wrong then. Maybe a tab is broken off or something. I'd contact Atomos and see if they'll make it right. I've had good luck getting responses from them. Let me know what happens.
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They said the will introduce EL Zone, let’s hope they stay true to their words!
It would really be great if they did. I hope that it gets adopted more widely. I would love to be able to use it on my Osee Megamon 15.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah, I bought this monitor over other options ONLY for touch-focus which the Atomos website says is available when using the Canon R6mk2. I have the latest camera firmware and updates the Atomos to the new 11.01.01 firmware and still no luck. It's a deal-breaker for me if I can't get it so I submitted a ticket on their site. Hope to get good news soon.
Yeah, it does seem like aspects of this product were rushed to market. To my knowledge, the cables still are not available - not that I would buy them anyway, but still.
Fingers crossed on the touch focus but I'm not holding my breath.
Thanks for watching!
Thinking of buying one. Thank you for your info and opinion, good work on the video! :)
I've used mine on several jobs now and compared to my old Ninja, it's a huge upgrade. Thanks for watching!
Just to add you mention the fan noise of the original Shinobi a few times? I’m not sure how as the original Shinobi has no fan just like the new version 2? Both Shinobi v1 and v2 are passively cooled. Unless you’re comparing it to the Ninja which of course has a fan.
I stand corrected - the comments from others that I was referring to must have applied to the 7" version. They both ran together in my brain. Thanks for setting me straight and thanks for watching!
@@MattSpaugh ahh yeah the 7” shinobi has a fan and it’s also much heavier and takes two batteries. Great video.
@@LatexFashionTVThx!
They’re improving camera control and adding touch to focus with firmware soon I’ve heard them comment that on so many videos. Hopefully sooner than later 🤞🏻
Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching.
They just released a firmware update about two days ago. I think it addresses some of the issues you mentioned.
Thanks for the info. At the time of my use, I was running 11.01.00. I see they're now on 11.01.01 but all the site says is "bug fixes and stability improvements". I know there were big-time issues prior to 11.01.00 - like recording being stopped if you left the camera control screen.
I think the issues (and quick succession of updates) only gives more weight to my comments about poor decision making and/or bad planning on Atomos' part.
OKAY - for real this time - I'll stop whining! 🤣
Thanks for watching!
@@MattSpaugh update it and let us know what it fixed or didn’t. 😂
@@ronyedin I had kinda planned to do a follow up on how to load LUTS, so I can add any new info. Thx!
This has a big overheating issue. Just bought mine as I was going through the menu system. And setting it up. The screen was very, very warm only after about thirty minutes of trying to figure out the menu system beware
Interesting. I've had no overheating issues with mine. It gets a bit warm during use, but nothing I would consider overheating.
It may be your power source - are you using batteries or AC power?
Great review!
Question, I’m new to monitors can you make the monitor come on/off with the camera? Without using the on/off button on the side of the monitor?
None of the monitors that I've owned have ever had that function. They all have to be turned on and off independent of the camera.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@@MattSpaugh Thank you 🙏
The SmallHD Focus has this feature
@@abertoon I know those are nice monitors, but given the functionality and quality of the Atomos offerings, I cannot justfy the significant price difference. The Focus is no longer available though, is it?
@@MattSpaugh I've had mine 7 years, so I doubt they are available new, but still worth picking up cheap 2nd hand. Has a lot of features missing from this Shinobi e.g. Customisable false colour, photo / grab option. I've loved mine but had head turned by the camera control features on the shinobi, hence why I'm here! Thanks for the insight
How hot does it get? Any overheating issues?
I have not noticed any heat build up. It does seem to get warmer when using the AC adapter for some reason but nothing major.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
If the camera usb c port is usb port for shinobi how i will connect the camera with gimbal that need usb c port too?
I'm not sure you can. I use the RavenEye transmitter and my phone as my gimbal monitor, so I never had a need to try the Shinobi for that purpose.
Not sure if that helps or not, but thanks for watching.
I have a Sony camera, and I don’t want my Shinobi monitor to charge the camera’s battery. However, I do want to keep the camera control feature enabled. Is there a way to disable the charging function while keeping camera control, or is disconnecting the camera control cable the only solution?
Not that I know of. I'm curious why you would not want a single 'pool' of battery power that both the camera and monitor are using.
FWIW, after years of using larger batteries I've changed and now carry multiple smaller ones. For my rodeo videos, I use the smaller NP-F550 batteries in my monitor and keep an extra in my pocket along with a second NP-FZ100 for the camera.
I have the first Shinobi, warm colors and a bit more exposed image, not at all what I expected on a monitor like that, is this working better in that sense?
I always found the color on my Ninja to be relatively accurate. I feel like the Shinobi II is as good or better. Granted, I'm using custom loaded LUTs on mine. I use the Phantom LUTs (which I highly recommend) and find that the color is very accurate between the Shinobi II and my calibrated studio monitor.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@@MattSpaugh I've just bought the Shinobi II and the colors are way more accurate. As far as I've seen on the internet, some Shinobi eren't calibrated correctly and there was no way to fix it. Still the highlights are quite blown out, while on my Sony screen they're correctly exposed...
@@VictorPerezPl I experienced a similar thing with the highlights being blown. I shoot SLog-3, S-Gamut.Cine and I use the Phantom LUTs package. Once I loaded those LUTS and started using them, I found it to be much more accurate. Are you shooting LOG and are you using the internal Atomos conversion LUT?
Is there video output for wireless transmitters?
There is a single HDMI input - no output. I use an Accsoon transmitter that has input and output so I run through that first and have the monitor at the end of the chain.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
Can i use shinobi 2 on a connection with PC as monitor on premiere pro?
The Shinobi II has an HDMI input, so anything that can send a signal via HDMI can be used.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@ thank you!! The best is to see it somewhere before bout it
I like the Corner Gas references
FITZY'S GRANDMA! And did you notice I used "Karen" when I was complaining? That show is so timeless - I hope you're well, hey to Barb.
Thanks for watching!
Does 4k120 from the sony show up on the shinobi screen? My monitor i currently have only shows up to 4k 60 on external monitor.
Pffft... what do you care???
Seriously, I've had no issues at any frame rate with the Shinobi II. Thanks for watching... as if you care.
@@MattSpaugh thanks 🙏🏽
Which hdmi chord did you get?
@@VincentDoesNotCare I use the thin ones from SmallRig.
can you not take that cable lock off?
Yes, it's a separate piece that just has four screws that hold it in place. I actually left it on just to give some protection to the ports. With it in place, you can use standard cables, they just don't lock in place.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching!
hi Matt,
new comment, serious question: I'm considering an Atomos Ninja (maybe Ultra) because I need a monitor to compose and manual focus video in the African bush, and I want to use the recording functionality. The main issues which concern me are 1.) screen size 2.) screen brightness 3.) fan noise 4.) weight.
questions I have based on your experience with the Ninja and the Shinobi II:
1.) is a 5-inch screen big enough, or would a 7-inch be better, of course with size comes other problems, but in terms of being able to see clearly enough to focus mostly - my short range eyesight has gone pearshaped recently, reason I'm asking...
2.) you mention the specs of the Shinobi II and the brightness, the alternatives are:
Ninja / Ninja Ultra: 1000cd/m2/nits
Shogun (7-inch Monitor/recorder): 2000 +/- 10% whatever that means
Shinobi II: 1500 as you stated in your video
the conditions in Africa are generally harsh sunlight, alot of glare, etc - would you classify the Ninja brightness as very dull?
3.) is the Ninja fan noisy?
4.) the Ninja is heavier, and the Shogun almost double the weight, and price....
so I'd appreciate your opinion on the above if you have the time
thanks
russ
I'll try to hit these in order:
1) I've own and use both 5 and 7 inch monitors and while I love the additional real estate, the 7" monitors are just too awkward as a camera-mount monitor. The 5" for me is the sweet spot.
2) 1000 nits doesn't do the job for me outdoors. The 1500 nit Shinobi II worked perfect for me in direct sunlight at a recent outdoor event. You can always add a hood but I don't think it would be necessary with the Shinobi II.
3) My Ninja fan is almost inaudible.
4) The weight of the Ninja is not really a huge factor to me (size is but not weight so much) and I have no first hand experience with the Shogun so I can't offer a solid opinion.
If you don't need a recorder, the Shinobi II is going to be hard to beat. If you do, the Ninja has always been a really solid, reliable performer for me.
I hope that helps, good luck with your decision and thanks for watching!
Thanks a million Matt, much appreciated!
@@blenderarchitect1553 Glad to help!
Which AC adapter are you using?
It's the one that came with my Ninja. If I remember correctly, a "universal" NP-F plate would not work with the Ninja.
Hope that helps, thanks for watching.
have you ever used the ''it's not my first rodeo'' line in any of your videos :o)
🤣 - Well, there was only 24 hours between my first and second rodeos so, yeah, but not much.
Thanks for watching!
My batteries rattles on this monitor. I need to place a small price of cardboard between the battery and the unit to fix this. I have tried different batteries with he same issue. Any one else experiencing this?
No issues on mine. Both my NPF batteries and my AC adapter fit as they should. Are you using a 3rd party battery?
@@MattSpaugh I use third-party batteries indeed but they were doing just fine in my Shinobi v1.
I'd guess that something is wrong then. Maybe a tab is broken off or something. I'd contact Atomos and see if they'll make it right. I've had good luck getting responses from them. Let me know what happens.
Does it works with the Sony a7iv?
Yes, perfectly!
@@MattSpaugh Thank you!
Touch focus available =D
I did the update but it looks like its only working for stills. What I need it tracking for video!!!