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- Don't Pay to have Your Tacoma TSS Sensor Recalibrated! If you've added the Pro grille to your truck and are having TSS problems, try these before having the sensor recalibrated at the dealership. This may save you a bunch of money! What do you think?
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Just to share some info as an automotive technician that has recalibrated many of these sensors. Yes you are "just" moving the sensors up and down, left and right via shims. But big part you're missing out is that this is done in conjunction with targets set at a precise distance and height from vehicle. You then have to finely tune the angle of the sensor to the targets using a scan tool that is communicating with the control module. This recalibration neutralizes set values so the truck now knows precisely where objects are based off of engineered values and programming
Sounds complicated! I wouldn’t pay $700 for it myself. Thanks for the info👍
Hey there, i have the techstream but it wont allow this because i dont have the targets, how can i get the light to just turn off we are not interested in this feature working my wife just doesnt like to see the light on the dash of her new truck. the dealership wont calibrate it and a few body shops arent willing to help either. thanks
Yeah the video title is horrible advice. The zero point for each sensor is firmware & cannot be reprogrammed on top of the recalibration. That is why there are unique OE part numbers for each OE grille type. That is why a unique sensor part number is included with the Genuine Accessory TRD lift kit.
I stand by what I said (and the title). However, always proceed with what makes you comfortable. I have never paid anyone to “recalibrate” the sensor and had no problems 👍
If it sounds expensive don’t buy a new car lol New car = Expensive parts
Only time I have issues is in rain. Swapped the knock of garnish with oem trd pro garnish for $60. Boom no issue. I did place one normal sized washer at the beginning and that seem to work just fine when it not raining. Something with the plastic up front of the sensor did not like getting water droplets on it. Never had that issue with the stock garnish before the aftermarket grill install
Great that you solved your problem 👍
It recalibrates on its own, when I've installed mine, I received the air error message but after 40 to 50 miles of driving, the error message disappeared and it's been working ever since.
That sensor has something to do with the air conditioning. That sensor failed precisely and the air conditioning failed. I am writing to you because your video is very helpful. Thank you
Ok, what have you done with replacing your rear bumper that has no mounting points for the BSM with a metal bumper and the BSM system to make them work again
Hey! Do you have a front cam in that grill? If so, did it come factory stock?
I have that grill with a plastic dummy plug where the camera would go. There is a factory wiring pigtail that plugs into that dummy grill plug. I’m wondering what that wiring pigtail is for.
I believe I added it to this truck.
I bought a 2021 SR5 last month that has this sensor in the grill. My truck is 100% OEM. Was driving it this morning and it triggered the yellow warning light as well as a message that it was unavailable. Parked it so I could go to work and when I left after work it was fine. I think it was due to the heavy fog we had this morning as well as condensation on the lens maybe??? I will keep an eye on it from here on out.
Yup, I bet that’s exactly what it was. No worries👍
Mine has come on and off twice. Says unavailable, please clean sensor
I believe that the 1 silver screw is the adjustment to realign the sensor. Not the 4 screws that keep the sensor housing together.
Could be. However, everyone I’ve spoken with has said that they shim the others🤔
I shimmed the silver screw only, 2 small washers and it's been perfect.
@@EvanDunn Yeah thats what ive heard. I didn't have to when I installed my grill but that screw seems to adjust the angle of the sensor.
Great info! Thanks 👍
You are correct !!!
Just jack the truck up to make up the difference in location👍
When I changed mine to the trd insert it worked good. But when it would rain it would send out code. I put the original one back on. I would love to have it back, but on rainy days it trows code. Why?
There was a TSB for moisture gutting into the sensor. Did you check to see if yours is affected?
I dont think my truck has that issue, bc on the original grill it does not do it. I did have the fuel pump replaced. Is a 2019. I love this truck! I think the cheap garnish i bought is not good! I need to but the genuine one
Could be? You get what you pay for😬
Hey Rob, you were just wrong in your description of which screws to loosen or adjust. You only need to loosen the two bolts on each side of the sensor and then actual down the two side bolts.
Not sure what you mean??
@@RobMotive Blake, already also pointed it out, that the 4 you pointed out in the video, are the bolts that actually hold the sensor together. It is the two bolts on the sides, one on each side, of the sensor, that actually hold the sensor onto the grill itself, along with the one screw at the top, that is used to adjust the sensor. So, if you just loosen the bolts on each side, then take out the screw at the top of the sensor, insert a thin washer between the sensor and the area where the screw inserts into, then put the screw back in, the sensor will then be adjusted at an ever so slight angle, just enough to then have it angle at about the same area as it was in the stock grill. Of course, all this is moot if one has a truck that they raised, as someone we both know has done!
Hello
What would happen if the TSS sensor is disconected on a Tacoma 3rd gen?
Other than maybe a light indicator in the dash and his funtion.
You would lose the nanny features.
@@RobMotive That’s it? No damage?
Back to old school 😃😃😃
No damage…just annoying warning lights and lack of functionality (if one cares).
My sensor is missing a screw . Where can I get a replacement one ? Looks like there was a nut behind the screw aswell
I’d pop one of the remaining screws out and head to Lowe’s👍
I was lucky no error message or problems when I put on pro grill on my 2020, but ya real easy fix.
Same here...No issues👍
Same here no problems
I get my new grill soon for 19 trd off-road, should I just install the washers right away or wait to see if a error message comes up?
I would wait. You may not have any issues👍
@@RobMotive ok thanks! And great video btw!
Thanks and thanks for watching 👍
I got lucky and mine works fine so far... I think its because I lifted my sr5 2 inches and the sensor moved down about 2 inches from the new TRD grill
Absolutely 👍. Same thing here with the lift👍
Love this video, give them stealerships what for bud!
I just installed my TRD Pro Grill and no problems with the TSS. I have the real OEM Toyota TRD Pro Grill. About $ 750 for grill and Garnish cover
Good to hear👍
i paid $80 for a replica grill and $50 for the garnish😁. the grill is exactly the same as the oem grill
That’s the best way to go IMO👍
@@grantr1556 I saw that however I didn’t want to take any chances. I was kind of new at this in the beginning.
Bruhhhh!!!! I paid $75 for a replica grill and $30 for garnish from Ebay.
Hey Rob I have a 2020 Tacoma Limited, it has a factory front camera. Which TRD pro grill has a spot for me to put the camera there. I see your grill has the front camera. Thank you
I bought an OEM grille with the front cam holder👍
@@RobMotive sweet thank you.
You mean i can have TSS 2.0 or 2.5 to my tacoma 2022 with steering assit ?
Huh?
I have a problem with my toyota tundra 2020 truck.. I changed the front grill and now the sensor does not turn off the light is always on.. I disconnected the battery and does nothing someone help me
I would check your connections 👍
What if I lifted my 4runner 3.5 inches and now the sensor is off. The dealer reset it but it came back on right away and said take to dealer.
If you can’t change the angle yourself then you should take it to the dealer.
Does the Tacoma 2016 sr5 have this tss sensor?
No.
@@RobMotive word ,thanks man
So, without the techstream, and targets, you will not know if your shims after correct. FYI the techstream lite mongoose cable is around $500, then you need a laptop to run the Toyota programming, and the targets. You might be able to do this with a generic scan tool, but a decent bi-directional scan tool is around $1000. The millimeter wave radar sensor is responsible for some of the autonomous features on your truck, and a lot of others. Without the proper calibration, which deals with more than eyeballing, and shims, you can affect the autonomous braking, the adaptive cruise, and potentially cause an accident. ADAS is an integral part of many modern cars, and calibration needs to be performed precisely. $700 is getting off easy vs a potential front end collision.
Not a concern of mine. As I’ve mentioned before, never install any mod that you’re not comfortable with👍
I have replaced nothing on my 21 TRD and my light is on and won't go off
That’s a bummer😡
So I would like to get a bar as well also switch to the trd grill owl/ after market are you saying that you could only have on or the other
Depends on the bar. If it’s in the way of the sensor then you’ll have a problem 😬
Wow, thank you for this inoformation, very cool
Thanks for watching 👍
Thank you…. It worked great for 1 month, but a recent 2.5 hrs trip the error came on. After I turned off the truck, and turned it back on it worked great. Not sure if the length of time did it or not? Anyone have that problem?
I’m sure time wasn’t a factor. There are a number of things that could cause it.
@@RobMotive thank you… love your channel…. This is my first time commenting. Keep up the great work on the channel
I changed out my grill a month ago, but this is my first time having a problem. I guess i will take your suggestion with the washers if it happens again. Not sure again where to place them. The side screws or the bottom to point up. thank you for the advice.
Also, love the Jeep Gladiators.
Thanks Todd and thanks for watching 👍👍
Why hasn't the aftermarket come up with a mounting that is behind the Toyota badge and sealed? That would put the sensor in the same position as the stock grille. It's not like you would see it behind that logo if it's dark.. Even if you can see an aftermarket sensor mount behind the TOYOTA logo, having to use that garnish looks worse IMO.
Yup...I agree👍
That would be a good idea. I'd guess the reason is because they're trying to make exact replicas for TRD Pro's which already have the sensor there.
Way to much r and d for these Chinese companies that already invested heavily into the molds for their replicas, also, they are trying to cater to all Tacomas years. I belive 2018-2023 they all have toyta SAFTEY sense radar bulit in the normal stock badge location, only trd pros will have an actual oem garnish cover that has been factory calibrated to work with the lower grill location. These knock offs cater to both to thoes who do not have it, and provide a tss cover to thoes who do, however non trd pro tss that are relocated using these grills were not calibrated to the relocated postion about a good 6-7 inchs lower. I think if most folks who got these covers just bought the oem pro garnish cover, they would be fine. Mine works okay, but using the Adaptive cruise control is so annoying as it will slam on the breaks way before it needs to or up shift and Rev to forever and stay in that gear way long. The only thing I care about tss is the pre Collison braking, which seems pretty crappy even in stock location
My dealership wants to charge me $250 to recalibrate and its a "50/50" chance the recalibration will even take.
Sounds like the going rate. However, the 50/50 success rate is absurd😡
It is good to use during a convoy. Lead vehicle can run with lights were as follow vehicles can go blacked out more easily.
Not sure what you mean🤔
@@RobMotive the front radar. With it you just need to focus on the vehicle in front and not the speed or distance unless coming to a hard stop which would be told over comms. More so I was just randomly rambling about an often overlooked benefit of the system.
👏👏👏 I need help with may 2020 camry. I live in lewisville tx🙂
The garnish is now over $400 so it's probably worth trying a couple aftermarket before buying it OEM now.
Absolutely!
Your gona confuse folks, the heritage trd pro grill is $400. The oem garnish for that particular grill is only $60
I have that problem tss sincere I haven't put a Lyft on it I put slight bigger tires and now my sensor is out
What do you think?
I think you need to adjust the sensor.
@RobMotive I just put the sensor facing downward slightly. Same issue, not working right. What do you think
@@RobMotive I called the dealership.They want to charge me 700 to recalibrate it.I don't know what to do
I don't know if it makes sense to face the sensor upward!
Rob I have my new 2021 sport on order an will want to get a pro grill. My taco will have the camera also. Is the dealership the only place I can get an OEM grill? Supposing I have a connection that will sell me one. I'm guessing all the after market grills don't have a mounting spot for the camera. Ive been looking and haven't seen one with enough detail to know if the camera has a mounting spot. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Billy
As far as I know yes. I haven’t seen any aftermarkets that accommodate the camera.
You can find OEM TRD PRO grill inserts on ebay being sold by Toyota Dealerships and/or owners that have taken them off.
$700 to have it calibrated. Crazzzy
Yup!! Nutz!!😬
Awesome work
I finally found a dealer to install the lift kit and grill with recalibration for $800 which I think is reasonable. It took a while to find because other dealers were quoting $2800!!
Shit I would installed a grill and a couple washers for $100!
3:45 Wouldn't it be the top two screws?
Depends on the adjustment needed🤔
Once it’s unplugged only Toyota can get it set correctly again. Even if you do no mods and just unplug it. It’s a real bitch. My body shop had to unplug mine to paint and then send the truck out after. I’m assuming if your battery is dead a while we’ll be running into the same problem. These things are more of a pain than they’re worth and should have a one touch override. Somehow humanity has made it this long without vehicles telling you when to break
Nah...I've had mine unplugged many times in both trucks and never had an issue👍
@@RobMotive The body shop, my local truck mod place and my ASE buddy said only toy can do it. I’ve got a ‘21 tundra… I don’t know if it’s a new thing or what 🤷🏻♂️
All I can say is I’ve done it many times with Tacoma’s and Tundras with no issue. 👍
The sensor absolutely does not need to be adjusted when unplugged. Its only needs the proper garnish and be leveled at a 90 degree angle. In some cases you might get lucky with some garnishes but its risky. That's why toyota charges $200-$300 for a little piece. You would have better luck with a AJT relocation mount from AJT.
Rob, What's the load rating on your Tacoma tires ....6 ply.... 10 ply or P rated ? Also what's your wheel width ?
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@@RobMotiveThanks, My 2021 Tacoma offroad in cement fully loaded with leather is being prepped for my pick up later. I'll do the same size with the 3/2 lift. Any issues with the Goodyear tire.?
The Goodyear’s were fine, but I’d go with Falken Wildpeaks 👍
@@samtheman7058 I am with you.....there is a 21' TRD Off Road in Cement, and with the 6spd MT I want, at my dealer. Thinking about pulling the trigger.
@@kathy0698 They have cash back incentives now and with a little arm twisting dealers are motivated. 👍😉
Ok, I understand not wanting to take it to the dealer, but that is a safety item you are messing with, and before you go saying that adding washers fixes it, you should do some extensive research. Cause your wrong and what ever dealer did that is also wrong. The sensor itself has a center that is utilized to actually read vehicles in front of it more accurately. A proper reflector is what is supposed to be utilized to adjust it. It’s more of an internal aiming then a physical one. Telling people that it’s ok to put washers on it is like saying I don’t need to hold on to the wheel as I drive 70 on the highway. There are other options aside from the dealer, do some research and you can even find someone like me to come out and do it properly for not $700. You can also ask about getting the system deactivated if you don’t even use it, no error no safety issue.
As I often say on this channel, never do anything that you’re not comfortable with. For me, the shim method is perfectly acceptable. As long as the error message goes away and the sensor functions, I’m ok with it👍
@@RobMotive I’m not trying to bash on you or anything, it’s just that gets to me because I work doing those calibrations and so many shops don’t understand the technology and think that as long as there is no error that means that everything is ok and that is not the case when it comes to those sensors. They are physically and electronically calibrated for a reason.
No bash felt here👍. I appreciate the insight. I just don’t think it’s worth that kind of money when I can make it work myself. It may not be aligned to the nth degree, but that’s case when driving anyway...no road is perfectly smooth👍
I bought my OEM grille from a Toyota dealer online out of Illinois with my TRD Sport VIN #, but I have been told that some dealerships will not sell them to a non PRO model. All that being said, I installed mine about 8 months ago or so and haven’t had any trouble whatsoever. I dunno if I got lucky or what lol! I say all of that and mine will misbehave going forward lol! 😂 😝
Lol! You’ve done it now!!! Break out the washers!!😬
Same here no problems from the get go
They don’t call them “stealerships” for nothing!!!
That is a ridiculous price!!😐
Hi Rob I’m Toyota tech… Toyota sales TRD package for specialty Tacoma. It’s lifting up 3 inches. Package comes with front struts,rear shocks,rear spacers for leaf springs. Front TRD grill with new radar sensor and new harness. That radar sensor we don’t adjust with washers…..it just you tight the screws that’s it,because when you disconnect the radar harness all Christmas light stay on the dash until you recalibrate radar sensor. Even no lights comes on you still need to recalibrate because you change sensor height which is important.when you cruising if radar sensor is not on right position possible crash the car. I don’t know how to do manually if there is one,measure 3 meters from front grill put special target.we use tech-stream.
The new garnish cover only uses 1 original screw
Everything is bigger in TX lol
Is that what they really do? It'd be great if someone that works for Toyota can let us in the secret what really does "recalibration" means?
Sounds too simple to be true huh!!😬
@@RobMotive my hopes and dreams of getting a pro grille were crushed today when the dealer denied to sell me a grill unless I had a pro VIN, and then I saw the OEM garnish price $300+,and lastly they said they would "recalibrate" my sensor if I get a my hands on a grill for a very affordable and small fee of $420. Fresno California Toyota dealership
The garnish can be had many places for under $75. There are many Pro vin numbers listed on dealer websites. “Recalibration” can be done yourself. I’ve mentioned these things in my videos. It can be done with a little ingenuity 👍
@@RobMotive yea your video gave me some peace of mind if I make the switch and need "recalibration"
You can do it. 👍
No issues for me on my aftermarket Toyota grill payed 200 installed.
Nice👍
to aim the sensor up you would shim the top, not the bottom
I’ve had zero problems after install
Nice👍
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