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- Fast lap, despite making a mess of turn one and the bus stop. Couldn't improve on this lap today though.
I used a setup from giggidy_oh. It's made for Monza but works great here too. Link: • Assetto Corsa (PS4) - ...
I used manual ERS deployment. To see where I deployed look at the green LED over the right thumb. On the exit of the bus stop chicane i switched to balanced low, just so I could focus on the exit without having to manually deploy. Still made a mess of it.... - เกม
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It’s insane how accurate it sounds, especially offboard shots.
kunos do it specifically maybe
Shame they messed up the top speed
@@erpaderpa4469 no, why? It's very similar, dipend how he deployed ers
@@ivanquellobelloxd6940 noope. The IRL car could do way over 350ks.. i tried no wing maximum camber and the top speed was too slow
Ironiclly the f2004 is actually fo fast 😂
@@erpaderpa4469 It's more than just camber and wings you know.
That sector 2 is lightning-fast! Saturday I did a 43.052 in sector 2 and think I can take the record if I put my sectors together, and today I log in and see your sector 2, ooooooof
This smells like a hot lap challenge in the making! Go for it man!
Did you ever make it? 😂
What a lap. Thanks for putting this on and helping a young pleb learn that you can go flat through t10.
Running high downforce
Cool video!
I've just watched this vid and still don't believe it's possible.
Haha, thanks, I guess?
@@shawn197 hey bro I have a question. Are you shifting that early to make it faster?
@@jasgill7121 Yes, definitely! Due to the technical regulations modern F1 cars make peak power way before the redline. If you wanna test it yourself, go to the drag map, put the car into overtake, and do two runs; one were you cange gears at the purple lights, and one where you shift just before the limiter.
Great driving! We are just getting started so far best is 1:52:003
Thank you man!
Back when I started driving F1 cars in AC (F138) I was well into the 1:50 range at Spa too. What helped me a lot was watching a video here on youtube called Skip Barber; going faster.
Also if you want I'd be happy to take a look at one of your laps and give you some pointers :)
My best lap is also around 1:52
Grandissimo..👌🏽
Grazie mille!
nice lap dude
Thanks man!
wow i didnt know the sf70h can go flat out thru pouhon
so cool!
Yeah it's pretty easy actually!
What a lap! If force feedback weren't horrible I would play more this game
Havent seen many complain about the FFB in Assetto across to be honest. Personally I just use the default setting with my G27. I feel what the car is doing, and have no issues catching slides. Not sure what else is needed from FFB :P
What on earth are you talking about? Assetto Corsa has the best ever force feedback.
@@detonator2112 no, my steering wheel always tries to kill me spining to other side without reason. GT4 on PCSX2 has a better FF. Assetto Corsa is a great game and simulator. But in my case the FF doesn't works
I'll be an old man by the time I get this good haha
The best looking non halo turbo car! SF70H
insane lap! i am a starter at F1 driving in AC, and with the RSS 2018 Formula Hybrid I was able to come up with 1:49. do you have any good tips for that type of car or even for the track itself? thank you so much!
Thanks man! 1:49 is that car is respectable especially for a new driver.
To chop of the next few seconds it’s all about mastering the basics. Use the full width of the track, both entry, apex and exit.
Don’t brake too late. It’s always tempting to brake as late as possible, but braking a fraction too late will cost you a lot by giving you a poor exit. Instead brake a bit earlier, and make sure you can get a good exit.
And final tip, be smooth. Not just with the steering, but also with throttle inputs.
So basically, try not to overdrive the car. Overdriving is easily the biggest mistake I see new (and also experienced) drivers do, and it kills both lap time, consistency and the ability to race side by side.
Such an awesome car to drive in AC. Pair this with Formula Hybrid, and you're ready to go.
I get a 1:58 and go nuts over it. I can't imagine going this fast and being able to stay on the track
I remember I was deep into the 1:50's when I started driving F1 cars at Spa. I think the saying "slow is smooth and smooth is fast" can help a lot when trying to get a low 1:50 or even sub 1:50. Don't try to brake super late, and don't try to carry too much speed into the corner. Instead slow down in a controlled fashion, take it easy into the corner and set up the car so you can get early on the throttle.
@@shawn197 I get around 1:50 in a Ferrari F2004 without any specific setup. Is that considered good?
@@nourechaara5409 It's solid. If you can consistently hit 1:50 in a public lobby race you'll probably finish around the middle.
That being said, you can probably knock off a couple of seconds relatively easy if focus on getting good exits and trust the car more in the corners, because the stock setup has a lot of downforce.
One big issue with the stock setup at Spa is the gearing though, you've probably felt that when you hit 312 in 7th gear early on the straights. By extending the gears a bit you can find 0,5 - 1 second on the straights quite easy I think.
Hi, thanks for the amazing drive. May I ask what the set up the car was? Thank you
Thank you, link to setup is in description.
Which Graphics Mod do you use in this video?
Wow this footage is stunning, not sure if you do, but do you use any graphics mods? if you do, what are they?
No Grafic mod
It uses at least custom shader patch
Is the high downforce working better for you? Have you tried a low downforce set up?
Whenever I reduce the rear downforce I seem to always get a a better lap time, but I'm all the way down to 2 rear wing and stuck at 1:48 and can't reduce any further. Les Combes exit and Campus exit are partial throttle and they are always super messy with a lot of opposite lock every other lap. Although I don't seem to be able to work the high rear downforce set up.
I have tried lower downforce, though not as low as you. Basically I've found lowering the wings give a very little boost to top speed, but a pretty big penalty to cornering grip. Due to the gear ratios and the power curve of the engine it doesn't really like going much faster than 330 no matter what.
Also, with higher wings you can actually be faster on some straights! Well, maybe not when it comes to top speed, but since you start the straight faster, the average speed can be higher.
I'm guessing you can be quicker too with higher wings, but you really need to trust the car. The grip in the corners is crazy, but if you don't trust it you will not go fast on the corners, and obviously also struggle on the straights.
@@shawn197 That makes sense, thanks!
bro how do you change the gear ratios on this car, i recently got the package but im not able to change gear ratios and they are super long for whatever reason, terrible acceleration.
You can’t, like the real car they are locked. However, they are not at all to long, if anything they can be a bit short for the faster tracks.
What I’m guessing you do is shifting too late. Due to the fuel flow regulations of these engines, the rev limiter is much higher than the power peak. As you see, I shift when the blue lights starts to light up, this is around 11500rpm, while the limit is regulated to be 15000rpm. If you wait all the way to red line, you will lose a lot of power and have poor acceleration.
@@shawn197 ah i see, thank you, ill give it a shot
@@shawn197 Update : It worked, thanks again!
@@thedailygrind8 good stuff! It’s the same case for the 2015 Ferrari F1 car too if you ever drive that.
Neat
Thanks!
Everyone: talking about the setup
Me: mmmm nice mirror
Haha, the mirrors are messed up indeed...
@@shawn197 did you find the fix? I also got the same problem
@@RapiiYT I think this is how it is in stock AC. I use Custom Shader Patch nowadays, and I don’t have this issue anymore.
Great driving, I'm just wondering why are you upshifting so early on the straights like 3/4 trough the rev range?
Good question. Pretty much every racing car you want to upshift as close to the rev limiter as possible. But these V6's produce peak power waaaay before the limiter because they reach the maximum fuel flow at 10500rpm, as stated in the technical regulations.
So many miss this though online, and rev all the way to the limiter. Not only is it slow as heck since you lose a lot of power, but it also sounds rubbish :P
will it be faster if youre on ultra soft?
Why does the rev counter not have that additional colored green line next to the yellow one ?
Because this is a replay, and sadly AC replays does not record ERS deployment.
Gioco Molto più bello di F1 della Codemaster per console!
with that view it seems going slower than 488 evo
What was your ERS settings? + car set up? I can't get past 1:50 no matter how hard I push
It's all in the description.
Holy fucking shit...
I though so too until I got beaten by 7 tenths :P
Anyone know why they don't seem to dive for the apex more ? I've seen LH's lap of spa and he seems to do the same thing.
Here it was a little mistake from me, braked a bit too late. It's really not that big of a deal though, since the corner is so wide and slow. As long as the exit is good, you can't do too much wrong here.
How to set this car😢😢😢，I am really slow，tyre pressure? ers?
bro can you post the setup? I dont manage with the monza's ps4 setup regarding to assetto corsa's one
Just copy the settings from the ps4 monza one and you are good to go
Almost flat through 9 😨WTF
Yeah I've never gotten close to that in any car before this, I did get some help from the outside kerb since that started a tiny slide, but I can't help but think this car has a bit too much grip in game.
quick question,
did you open the rear wing? for some reason i can not
You mean DRS? Yes I did, but it only works in the DRS zones.
Tipps for Busstop always locking up and i never get it right?
Start braking hard, and downshift aggressivly. As soon as you start turning in, start backing off the brake, quite substantially.
Also play around with the brake balance. If the fronts lock up, dont be afraid to move the balance back. You can also bind a button to your input device so you can change it on the fly.
Also, it is much more important to get a good exit than to brake as late as possble. Locking up can lose you many tenths, even seconds. Braking 10m early, maybe a tenth lost but you'll easily get a very good exit.
@@shawn197 thanks, haven't played for 2 days now and im 2s off pace but i hope that will fix itself after driving some laps
Hey man, Great video's and crazy Times. Im still struggling to get my Times up. Did a 46.1 at spa. Can you help me a bit ? Allready got youre setup.
I'd love to mate!
I think the best way for me to help you would be if you could upload one of your laps so I could check it out. But I can also give you some general tips and tricks.
One common "mistake" I see a lot of drivers doing is not using all the track, especially on entry. Not using all the track means you have to take less speed around the corner and you'll also have to brake early because of that. Look at how I braked for turn one for example, that's how wide you wanna go on a perfect lap.
ERS management is key, especially around a long track like Spa. If yoy simply leave it in hotlap mode you will run out before the end and lose a lot. I often use the charging mode and then manually deploy where needed. I try to mostly use it at "low" speed since that's where it's most efficient. If you look for the green LED above the drivers right thumb you can see when I boost. Notice how I stop boosting around halfway down the Kemmel straight, I bellieve this is pretty close to optimal ERS usage.
This is also a car that you can downshift really aggressivly in (much more than what they do IRL), and this helps when braking since you'll have more engine braking and thus you can brake later.
Finally when I try to set a world record I lower the temperature to 10°c. This gives more grip, and more power from the engine due to the denser air. Compared to running at 26° it probably gives you at least a second.
That's all I can think of right now. Feel free to ask more, and I'd love to check your lap and give you some pointers!
@@shawn197 thx for the tips. Already got a 1:44.490 now! Thats almost 2 sec allready. i've uploaded the video of the lap. It's by far not the cleanest lap but it's the best i got until now. Here is the link. let me know what u think!
th-cam.com/video/B0aBi6OS42Y/w-d-xo.html
@@shawn197 youre the best ✌️
@@Mack-parks Thank you! Though it seems like I'm 5th best these days haha
0:24 track limits?
hey the setup was so oversteer any tips to solve the problem?
Edit: setup works well from around 1:48 to 1:44:005 but i need to improve more,bit frustated because of the oversteer is masive at sector 2 prob after the eau rouge straight (i forgot what the straight called) before downhill turn i was oversteering so hard i need to fix that but idk how to fix it pls help me
First thing to look at is the driving. The setup does have a tendency to oversteer, especially in the power. This is partly why it is quick.
To deal with this oversteer you need to be smooth, both with the steering and with the pedals. Study the video for reference.
One thing to note, once you start sliding the rears will overheat quickly. Overheating means less grip, and you start sliding more. Basically an evil circle.
Also if you aren’t driving in cold conditions (10c in the video) ditch the ultra soft tyres. They overheat easily, and you’ll have little grip. Try the soft tyres in normal or hot temperatures. If they feel good, you can try the super softs, though they can also suffer in the heat on a circuit like Spa.
Setup wise there are a lot of stuff you can do. You can add some rear wing, or lower the front wing. You can try softening the rear springs or anti roll bar. You can stiffen the front springs or roll bar. You can lower the rear ride height. Only change one parameter at a time before testing, so you can feel what is working and what is not working.
Ty but i think i also make some mistake that i kept doing it im gonna sent the vid later
@@shawn197 also i using mouse steering its quite the same as steering wheel when steer right or left what make it different is the gas you cant control it when you want to
@@shawn197 hey analysis this my 1:44:005 replay is gone
th-cam.com/video/T4Yfc4ge_ws/w-d-xo.html
You need to get better throttle control
either there is something wrong with my setup but you seem to get to 8 gear before eau rouge. same car but mine doesn't accelerate as quickly or go through the gears are quick as yours.
How are you using you ERS? Here I press the overtake button from the exit of T1 all the way to after the DRS activation. I also put the MGU-K in motor mode. Combined this gives maximum power, and quite a bit more than using using the stock setting.
When you change gear also matters a lot in this car. You can rev it much higher than I do here before hitting the limiter, but this is slow and inefficient. If you look at the shift lights I barely reach the blue ones before upshifting. If I shifted at the limiter (like I see a lot of people do) I could probably reach Eau Rouge in 6th gear while still being fully on the throttle and using maximum power.
Also if you don't get a good exit (wheelspin, too high gear, too little throttle, too little apex speed) that's gonna affect your speed all the way down the straight when accelerating.
It could be a lot of stuff, but without a video it is hard to say for sure.
@@shawn197 thanks i got ers setup and got to a 1.47.3 but still way off your pace. Is there a way i can add your ghost lap via steam?
I dont think im utilising ers correctly as my hud doesnt have a bar for when it is depleted like yours. Im on a pc on ac. How did you get yours to show the ers bar on your hud display by where the gears are displayed?
@@0079supersaiyan I don't think it's possible to add ghosts, and even if it is possible I don't have a ghost for this lap.
The default app called "gears" should have ERS levels. You'll find it by moving your mouse to the right side of the screen and scrolling through the list.
Personally I only use it in replays, but sadly it does not display the ERS correclty in replay mode. When driving I use an app called sidekick: www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sidekick.11007/
If you want to see where I use ERS, look for the green LED above the drivers right thumb. When it's green I press the overtake button, and when it's off I don't use any ERS, besides the MGUK that's always giving a bit of power in motor mode.
Hope this helps!
@@shawn197 thanks for your help. Got ers and kers sorted. Got a lot of improvement to make. I've made a quick video of my best time today. Any recommendations welcome for improvement. I made a lot of mistakes on this one.
th-cam.com/video/9FSFCo_sG8M/w-d-xo.html
After radillion going into corners I can carry any speed even with high downforce it understeers then spins on the following sweeping right hand corner
If you upload a clip I can help you figure out whats going on :)
Around how long did it take you to get that quick?
Hmm, it depends how you count really.
I’ve mostly played racing games since I was a little kid, starting with Need for speed 2.
First game I played with a wheel was Gran Turismo 5. I just played for fun, wasn’t very good.
Got AC when it was in early access, 2013 I think. Played it a bit, but had no idea how people were so much faster than me, because I thought I was fast myself. Spoiler: I was very slow, mainly due to overdriving.
So around 2016 I watched a video called “Skip Barber: Going faster”. I thought me a lot, especially how important getting a good exit was. After that I started applying it to my driving.
For months I drove online, at Spa in the F138. Started off well into the 1:50, fast guys were doing 1:46 ish. I kept just focusing on that for months. Gradually getting faster and faster, and by late 2016/early 2017 I was challenging for the WR at that time.
Then after that I have kept working on, but I don’t think I have gotten that much faster when it comes to peak pace, but I’d still beat 2017 me 10/10 times because now I am much more consistent and better at racing.
So in short, I spent many years just driving. Having fun, but being slow. Only I looked into how you have to drive in order to actually drive fast, and practiced that, then I rapidly got a lot better.
Hopefully that makes some sense, was a bit of a ramble and I wrote it on the phone :P
@@shawn197 It’s awesome to hear your story it really helps a lot🔥. I know everyone is different but I was hoping to get an idea so that I can kind of know if I’m making good progress.
I got my first wheel (t150 with the terrible stock pedals) in January of 2022. I started with Gran turismo sport just for fun. Later in the year I got AC and ACC and started looking towards getting quick.
I was shockingly slow when I started off but I started working on correct technique and fixing bad habits from TH-cam videos (Suellio Almeida really helped)
I upgraded to tlcm loadcell pedals around a couple of months ago and they helped with my consistency. I’m now currently able to do times like 1.27.8 at silverstone and 1.43.0 at spa in the sf70h although I know I have a little more pace if I can iron out my mistakes.
What’s your practice routine like? And do you have any advice for me to find the remaining time I’m losing?
@@nevillemolokwu8598 Personally I dont really have a practice routine. If I'm doing a race, or trying for a hotlap I usually just do some laps just to see where I am. Then I look at the times and laps others are doing and see where I'm losing out. Then its just more seat time really, to properly learn the car and track.
And that would be my advice to you too. Look at the laps faster guys do, and compare it to yours. Do it corner by corner, how are they placing the car on entry, where do they brake, how much do they trail brake etc.
Taking that last second or two is all about very small details adding up over a full lap.
@@shawn197 thanks for your advice, your hotlaps would be a great place to start
What assist are you running here? That was an incredible lap
I always use whatever assists the real car has, so in this case that means no assits.
@@shawn197 why does it look like you're on automatic gearbox? If you're not, try to reach a higher rpm before you change gear
@@sebastianbernabe3800 I am not using automatic gearing (that would be painfully slow, and my shift points are pretty much optimal. The reason for this is that the modern power units in F1 are a bit funny. The regulated maximum rpm is 15000, yet no team has gotten close to this. The peak power is produced at around 10500 rpm due to the regulated maximum fuel flow that is reached at that point. Basically you start losing power when going over 10500 rpm.
The SF70H in game has a rev limit of around 13000 rpm I think, and a lot of people rev up to that before shifting gears. That is not fast and the LEDs on the steering wheel has been screaming for ages that you should change up. If you look at the LED's on the steering wheel when I change up usually most of the blue LEDs are on, which I think is just over 11000 rpm.
Other cars in the game are similar, like the 2015 F1 car and the Ferrari GT2 car where you should shift way before the rev limiter if you want maximum power.
Bro got 3 track limits 💀
Nah, lap is valid in the game. I’d be a slow idiot if I didn’t use all the track the game allows me.
did 1.40.054 (used a F2004 on soft slicks only things i changed were brakeBias and fuel)
But I manged to get a 1:40.653 other day on Spa using the Porshce 919 Hybrid but I thought that was slow I was using the logitech G929....
I was trying to find videos how to get faster at Spa and then I saw this lol....
The evo version I assume? That car is faster than this one, so you don’t need a great lap to beat it.
@@shawn197 oh I didn't know haha I gotta try this car out then 😅
That downshifting sound is horrible damn .. Nice lap however
what is going on with your mirrors? lol
Just AC being AC haha
I have stock asseto corza on xbox my reocrd is 2:32 on some old ass f1
car setup?
Check the description :)
0:24 in 2021 u would be off track limits
That would depend on what the stewards had for breakfast and the air humidity ;)
But seriously, I always push the limits as far as the game allows. The same rules applies to everybody, and there is no point not taking any free lap time when you fight for every tenth you can.
@@shawn197 i know that, relax. I'm only joking about all this shit of track limits.
yeah i still 3 seconds off lol
Unless you are using the same perfect conditions (10c air) you are probably closer than you think. Online for example I’m pretty happy if I do low 43 in qualifying
track limits on 1:13?
Game allows you to go to the gravel there, so lap is valid.
It's very accurate but, too girp ahah, pouhon flat out with ers😂, not for you, but the game itself Is broken(Hamilton 2020 record Is 1:46)
That’s in the race. In qualifying he did a low 1:41 in 2020.
In 2017 Vettel did 1:42.7 in this car here. Going a second faster in a sim were the track conditions are perfect (they never are IRL), you have as many laps as you want, and no risk of dying doesn’t seem to unrealistic to me.
Considering this car was released during the season and in only one spec, I think they did a good job in making a car that is not too far off IRL on most circuits.
My record is 1.44.989 but i cant get lower than 50 with that car
What car did you do 1:44 with?
what, no battery?
Not sure I understand what you mean?
@@shawn197 I think its called KERS.
@@joshquarter3097 yeah this car has ers. However since this is a replay the game does not show the state of charge of the battery.
@@shawn197 oh ok
Actual time: invalidated lap
You have no idea what you are talking about mate.
Probably jealous you can’t set a time below 1:50
Illegal engine TM
That was the 2019 Ferrari 🤣
@@shawn197 i mean this car mod has a mega power! Look at the upshifts and how it reaches top speed! A whole second comes only from the Kemmel straight
@@fedelecavaliere5249 it’s the Kunos made car, so not a mod. But yeah, these modern F1 cars are crazy powerful, roughly 1000hp. The F2004 has even better acceleration and top speed though, because it’s lighter and has a lot less drag. It reaches 340+ easy!
Impossible
Sandly it has been beaten, so not impossible ;)
@@shawn197 link to the new record ? i will be more impressed that what i'm now (i can't do better than 1.52 on spa with your settup
(maybe because i gave myself only 45 minute to do a quick clean lap.
@@okanada Here's the new record by Jerry: th-cam.com/video/d-z2aiiaLCo/w-d-xo.html (he's only borrowing it though ;))
If you're in the 52's there is probably something fundamental you're not getting quite right. If you could record one of your laps I'd be happy to help you smash the 1:50 barrier :) You're probably closer than you think you are.
@@shawn197 damn he is fast (you are actually) I can't manage to put early trottle like him and if i try i spin.
@1 1 love you too
your downshift are wrong the engine shouldnt rev high while downshifting.
Of course the engine should rev high under downshifting. It's all about engine braking, and higher RPM means more engine braking.
Now, AC in this car definitely lets you get away with a bit too high RPM under downshifting before the engine takes damange. However, just like in real racing, in order to win you push the limit as much as you're allowed to.
@@shawn197 Maybe because I like realism more I tend not to downshift early like you do, I brake hard until the speed is ok then throw all the downshifts as in real f1.
@@moussakamal1633 That's not how they do it though... They pretty much start downshifting when they start braking, as soon as possible. Take a look: th-cam.com/video/RhM_04gQQkk/w-d-xo.html
@@shawn197 Exactly what I was saying, he didnt rev his engine on downshifts so much except the last corner because of trail braking, other downshifts were barley lighting the rev lights just couple of corners were only the first blue led lighted
@@moussakamal1633 If that's exactly what you're saying something was lost in translation. Previously you said you braked, then did all the downshifts. F1 drivers obviously do not do that, as showed in the video. Also, as I said the game let's you downshift faster in this car (look at any other video I have and the gear shifts are just like in F1) and doing so is faster, so I do it, as I said in the first comment.
Also, the real LEDs and game LEDs are different. The game ones turn on earlier. In my video for instance the red LEDs are almost always on, even when I shift at the blue lights. IRL they all turn turn off for every shift. Basically this means that when you downshift in the game, more LEDs are on, so not comparable.
This game is so damn fake. Car is like totally glued to ground.
Eh, this generation of F1 were absolutely glued to the ground. In 2020 it was especially extreme, look at Hamiltons pole lap here at spa for example. Barely a single correction on the wheel, and completely planted in the high speed corners. Takes pouhon flat, and the lap is half a second quicker than this one. Of course, the 2020 cars were faster, but in the sim you can set the track conditions to be much better than what you get most days irl.
Obviously a 10 year old sim is not gonna match up 1:1 with real life though, not even the actual sims the teams use do that.