Absolutely counts! 3 ungroundings! If you hook to them and unground them it counts! If they don’t listen to sound advice then that’s on them. Of course no tip! Typical sailor! Awesome job captain Ken. Keep the camera rolling.
This right here is what keeps me in my 22' trailer sailor with a swing keel, kick up rudder and less than 12" of draft. I'm not running aground anywhere I can't walk home from.
You say that, but the membership cost hasn't gone up all that much over the years. If you want to save money, go to your local boat show and if towboat us is there, they usually have a $50 discount on renewals
@@CaptKenOYet still the coverage is well worth what you pay for it. Even if it it doubled at the highest plan. We do commercial towing, You'd SH*T a 🐈🐈🐈 if you saw what we charge to do a simple tow our winch out on empty/unloaded on a semi truck with 4-6 axles.
If I grounded my sailboat myself bad enough to have to be towed I would have the sails down before the tug ever arrived. If I were a tug operator when arriving to tug a sailboat and they didn’t grasp that the sails should be down….i don’t know. I probably would not be surprised to see them again within 24 hours..
I work for SeaTow up in the Block Island sound. I was wondering why you never pull from the halyard to lean her over. Not criticizing just wondering. Great channel.
I should have watched this video last week. Today is Sunday the 21st. I missed being able to see you at the boat show. I am happy to be a supporter. 1 cup of Coffee per month, well worth it.
So many reasons why I avoid Big Pass ;-) Heck, I'm starting to avoid New Pass now too, people have no idea what they are doing around here! I guess that means plenty of work for you!
You'd rather go through new pass than high pass? Man you've got issues 😂 New pass is sooooo much sketchier which is why it's been technically closed for as long as I can remember
@@ripn929707 At 36 foot 2 on board IS pretty short handed. I,ll bet with 5 on board with a clue you could get her off. Probably anyway. Bunch of things in the bag of tricks to try . Including noticing you are sailing into really shallow water. She ought to have a depth finder too
I,m thinking just watching that a centreboard yacht is the way to go around there. Hell we think Port Phillip Bay is pretty shallow... its mostly less than 10 metres. and often less than 4. But less than 2 at low tide is rare
You’d be surprised how much water some modern designs actually need. The trend is for high aspect foils (deep skinny keels and rudders) that make for a more maneuverable boat that goes to windward a bit better. But 10’ on the gulf coast of FL no wonder he spends his days aground….
J Boats are performance boats and have deeper keels. I think he said 6’ although I’m pretty sure he actually draws 6.3’ which is pretty deep for the size boat.
Discovered your channel only this weekend. Enjoyed watching very much. I've a question, it seems as though the sailboats you rescue from grounding were apparently under sail when they grounded. Is that your observation as well? After all the videos, I have but on word:" charts". Read them. As as sailor, I'm cautious, very cautious over water depth and that other nasty variable-tide. I can sail down a channel but I wouldn't do it in water I did not know.
Thanks Tim! Most of the sailboats aren't actually under sail when the ground themselves...this guy did it once, but the 45ft freedom has done it every time🤦😂
J boats are made for racing, they are deep draft boats and the gulf has a lot of shallow sandbars, a bad combo if you don't know the area, you can get in trouble in a hurry even with good electronics, which I'm sure he had on that fairly new high dollar boat.
Not great. But hey lazy jacks do spoil us. I will say it rarely takes us even a minute. And we cant afford a carbon main .. but we can afford lazy jacks. Did it seem to you that that thing was pretty bare bones for a sports boat?
Definitely would like to see a night job. Sure would like to see that. Have experience over here bc coast Canada. Good times where you are at there. A little different over here.
Nice engines on that boat but the integrity of that rear tow point is really questionable the hole rear end is moving quite a bit under power...😅🤔(seems like one post missing too...) otherwise a fantastic job as always greetings from Germany👍
Hahaha. Yeah. It was damaged in heavy seas a few months ago that bent the whole thing (it was a poor design from the beginning). It's since been hauled out and modified a bit for better rigidity
Today, I learned what lazy jacks and stack packs are….with that said, I’ve never owned a sailboat, nor have any interest in sailing….I guess I’m just lazy, and love my Mercury 2 strokes…lolol.
It would be kewl if you did an overlay of the chart where people go aground in each video that is a grounding….Do people give you a nice tip to say thank you
I’m surrounded by idiots. In a Marina in Dunedin FL. It very low out there. I have a Tritoon that you have to be careful with. My Marina is loaded with sailboats that never leave cause their afraid or or has to be high tide. Yet there is a few of them that want to sail in the sound. So obnoxious.
I live in Eastern North Carolina, and here a 7 ft. Draft sailboat is useless. This sounds like a blue water sailboat, and should be offshore. A must needs to be a depth sounder and very slow in and out of the harbor, or just keep it on a ball in deeper water.
Hahaha. Great question! They say the best boat is a friend with a boat, and I one up that by saying the best boat is a boat you get paid to be on!!! 😁 I don't currently have my own boat, but I also spend so much time on boats working, that when I'm not working, I don't exactly feel like being on a boat anyway 🤷
@@CaptKenO So I have a question for you. If you had the opportunity to spec out the boat you wanted with all the gear and options, What would it be for the area you work in there on the Gulf Coast of Sunny Florida.
Circa 2006 I brought a 30ft sailboat from Ft Lauderdale to Jensen Beach and ran aground about 5 times during that trip. In my defense, the boat had a 6ft draft, I had no charts, no local knowledge, and no gps or other electronics. So, I may just be the unfortunate record holder for the most groundings in a one week period.
Yeahhhhh, but I didn't have to come save you, so unfortunately that record doesn't count here 😕😂 I'm sure some of the guys have grounded many more times than just what I've had to deal with
Yes, it would run counter to business, but these guys really need a ten minute lesson in navigation. Red, right, return. On the ICW Green buoys are on the Gulf side. Learn how to read a chart plotter. He has a chart plotter, right? I run my 19' CC boat out of Cortez, so a lot of your rescues are on familiar ground.
What is the matter with this dude, grounding your boat in your own back yard multiple times over a couple of days shows a real lack of seamanship skills
Man just went thru this area in a sailboat, the water way is extremely narrow and tricky. But the fact that it’s narrow also makes it easy. Dude shouldn’t be on a boat like this. In all fairness I bumped in the channel near the mangroves and the anchorages at long boat pass.
“Lets do starboard again.” Classic passive aggressive. 😂
Thanks !!at least I won't get stuck on them
🤣😅😂
A hat trick a no tip. SMH. I don’t know how you keep a straight face but here’s to job security. Well done CAPT Ken…
Sailboaters don’t tip
Everything should be free, just like the wind in my sails… ⛵️
Hahaha. Thanks lowrider! 😂
He should 1. Get a new depth finder, 2. new charts or 3. new hobby.
Amen…
3 times in a row . . . even the guys dog is embarrassed 🤣 🤣
If anyone needs to invest in a swing keel it's this guy.
Absolutely counts! 3 ungroundings! If you hook to them and unground them it counts! If they don’t listen to sound advice then that’s on them. Of course no tip! Typical sailor! Awesome job captain Ken. Keep the camera rolling.
Thanks capt! 😂
You know how those sailors are...🤔
This right here is what keeps me in my 22' trailer sailor with a swing keel, kick up rudder and less than 12" of draft. I'm not running aground anywhere I can't walk home from.
There's nothing wrong with that other than you'd never need my help and I wouldn't ever make any money if everyone followed that policy 😂
The port of call on the numbers explains everything perfectly. NY.
These guys are the reason I won’t be able to afford towing coverage for much longer. Taking advantage of the system
You say that, but the membership cost hasn't gone up all that much over the years. If you want to save money, go to your local boat show and if towboat us is there, they usually have a $50 discount on renewals
@@CaptKenOYet still the coverage is well worth what you pay for it. Even if it it doubled at the highest plan. We do commercial towing, You'd SH*T a 🐈🐈🐈 if you saw what we charge to do a simple tow our winch out on empty/unloaded on a semi truck with 4-6 axles.
Wow that guy needs a commercial marine pilot to get back the dock...lol
Dispatch actually called my boss after the 3rd grounding and said if he gets stuck again we'd need to tow him to his destination regardless 🤣
This guy needs to give you the ability to do a bank draft or a monthly membership fee :-)
He's ok for now...it's all covered under his membership
If I grounded my sailboat myself bad enough to have to be towed I would have the sails down before the tug ever arrived.
If I were a tug operator when arriving to tug a sailboat and they didn’t grasp that the sails should be down….i don’t know. I probably would not be surprised to see them again within 24 hours..
I work for SeaTow up in the Block Island sound. I was wondering why you never pull from the halyard to lean her over. Not criticizing just wondering. Great channel.
Thanks Kevin! We won't do a halyard pull because the risk of damaging something isn't worth it for us
I should have watched this video last week. Today is Sunday the 21st. I missed being able to see you at the boat show. I am happy to be a supporter. 1 cup of Coffee per month, well worth it.
That's too bad. It would've been cool to meet my first patreon supporter in person!
I love how you explain the terminology. Sure different than calif we don't have the sand bars.
Sure you do...they're just 100s of feet below the water 😂
So many reasons why I avoid Big Pass ;-) Heck, I'm starting to avoid New Pass now too, people have no idea what they are doing around here! I guess that means plenty of work for you!
You'd rather go through new pass than high pass? Man you've got issues 😂
New pass is sooooo much sketchier which is why it's been technically closed for as long as I can remember
Thats a J-111 which is 36.5ft. Draft is 7.2ft. Those are really nice racing sailboats.
So, this is sort of the sailing equivalent to rich guy in a Ferrari with no driving skills what so ever. 😂
@@ripn929707 At 36 foot 2 on board IS pretty short handed. I,ll bet with 5 on board with a clue you could get her off. Probably anyway. Bunch of things in the bag of tricks to try . Including noticing you are sailing into really shallow water. She ought to have a depth finder too
I would suggest he buy shares in the company if he is going to continue sailing there.
The company that gets paid for these jobs is a private company, so that wouldn't exactly work...😕
Wind Farries. Enough said!
They should probably realize by now a flat bottom boat is more their speed.
Or one on a track at Busch Gardens
I,m thinking just watching that a centreboard yacht is the way to go around there. Hell we think Port Phillip Bay is pretty shallow... its mostly less than 10 metres. and often less than 4. But less than 2 at low tide is rare
Yep, 3 groundings. Isn't 10 feet a pretty deep draft for a modern sail boat?
You’d be surprised how much water some modern designs actually need. The trend is for high aspect foils (deep skinny keels and rudders) that make for a more maneuverable boat that goes to windward a bit better.
But 10’ on the gulf coast of FL no wonder he spends his days aground….
J Boats are performance boats and have deeper keels. I think he said 6’ although I’m pretty sure he actually draws 6.3’ which is pretty deep for the size boat.
What sucks is depth gauge readings when following a power vessel, they show errant readings from the wash.
Great job again!!!
Thanks Jay!
Discovered your channel only this weekend. Enjoyed watching very much. I've a question, it seems as though the sailboats you rescue from grounding were apparently under sail when they grounded. Is that your observation as well? After all the videos, I have but on word:" charts". Read them. As as sailor, I'm cautious, very cautious over water depth and that other nasty variable-tide. I can sail down a channel but I wouldn't do it in water I did not know.
Thanks Tim!
Most of the sailboats aren't actually under sail when the ground themselves...this guy did it once, but the 45ft freedom has done it every time🤦😂
the Gulf is pretty shallow waters
J boats are made for racing, they are deep draft boats and the gulf has a lot of shallow sandbars, a bad combo if you don't know the area, you can get in trouble in a hurry even with good electronics, which I'm sure he had on that fairly new high dollar boat.
Yeah, definitely not a boat for this area. Maybe Tampa Bay where it's deeper, but a better East coast boat for sure
I believe that counts
watching them try and fold their sail was painful have no clue
Not great. But hey lazy jacks do spoil us. I will say it rarely takes us even a minute. And we cant afford a carbon main .. but we can afford lazy jacks. Did it seem to you that that thing was pretty bare bones for a sports boat?
If your rope is hooked to them and you have to pull even the slightest bit then it counts
I'll bet he had the boat transported down to FL rather than sail it. 😂
Yeah, otherwise he probably would’ve already knocked the bottom foot or two off that keel enroute. 😂
Definitely would like to see a night job. Sure would like to see that.
Have experience over here bc coast Canada.
Good times where you are at there.
A little different over here.
There's really nothing to see on a night job so I don't post those
Nice engines on that boat but the integrity of that rear tow point is really questionable the hole rear end is moving quite a bit under power...😅🤔(seems like one post missing too...)
otherwise a fantastic job as always
greetings from Germany👍
Hahaha. Yeah. It was damaged in heavy seas a few months ago that bent the whole thing (it was a poor design from the beginning). It's since been hauled out and modified a bit for better rigidity
What kind of sailor doesn’t have lazy jacks and or a stack pack these days?
Today, I learned what lazy jacks and stack packs are….with that said, I’ve never owned a sailboat, nor have any interest in sailing….I guess I’m just lazy, and love my Mercury 2 strokes…lolol.
It's a performance race boat...both of those are great for pleasure boating, but would reduce performance even if only a bit
With the dingy in tow I assumed he was doing more cruising than racing.🤷♂️
@FlipCouvillion definitely cruising on this trip
3 Xs for sure.
4th should be a broadside and scuttling. Geez Louise.
It would be kewl if you did an overlay of the chart where people go aground in each video that is a grounding….Do people give you a nice tip to say thank you
But then people wouldn't run aground again and I'd be out of work 😂
@@CaptKenO lol…this guy will with his 7 foot draft
Lol 😂
He should've listened to me the first time about going to Longboat pass
@@CaptKenO I tell you one thing….You are a great ambassador for TOWBOATUS
@MOTORVESSELFREEDOM thanks capt! I try 😊
As scary-these people drive cars too!!
Does he understand the draft is measured from the waterline and not the top of the cabin? 🤦♂️😂
For a performance boat like this, it actually would have a 7ft keel
I’m surrounded by idiots. In a Marina in Dunedin FL. It very low out there. I have a Tritoon that you have to be careful with. My Marina is loaded with sailboats that never leave cause their afraid or or has to be high tide. Yet there is a few of them that want to sail in the sound. So obnoxious.
I live in Eastern North Carolina, and here a 7 ft. Draft sailboat is useless. This sounds like a blue water sailboat, and should be offshore. A must needs to be a depth sounder and very slow in and out of the harbor, or just keep it on a ball in deeper water.
There's deeper water in harbor...the problem is getting out the inlets to the gulf. Most of the ones around shoal in pretty good after a few years
There must be an obvious sandbar that is hard to see or the capt does not pay attention nor look at charters or navigation gear. Jim Rodgers
Or... Doesn't listen to the towboat captain when he suggests he take a different but longer route 🤔😂
He needs a stack pack.
Definitely!
🤣🤣 stuck on a sandbar all sail out...
So at what point will Towboat drop a member who repeatedly grounds their boat like this?
No one knows for sure
Hi Ken, just wondering, do you own a boat or are you under the impression the best boat to be on is the one you don’t own, great content.
Hahaha. Great question! They say the best boat is a friend with a boat, and I one up that by saying the best boat is a boat you get paid to be on!!! 😁
I don't currently have my own boat, but I also spend so much time on boats working, that when I'm not working, I don't exactly feel like being on a boat anyway 🤷
@@CaptKenO So I have a question for you. If you had the opportunity to spec out the boat you wanted with all the gear and options, What would it be for the area you work in there on the Gulf Coast of Sunny Florida.
Is that the same cat but w/Yamaha 2 strokes?
No. This is our Boston Whaler outrage
Guess he is still looking for bluewater😂😂
Should of made him put up his sail the second time and really confuse him lol
Lol 😂
While that would've been funny...it would've been counterproductive
Circa 2006 I brought a 30ft sailboat from Ft Lauderdale to Jensen Beach and ran aground about 5 times during that trip. In my defense, the boat had a 6ft draft, I had no charts, no local knowledge, and no gps or other electronics. So, I may just be the unfortunate record holder for the most groundings in a one week period.
Yeahhhhh, but I didn't have to come save you, so unfortunately that record doesn't count here 😕😂
I'm sure some of the guys have grounded many more times than just what I've had to deal with
It seems groundings is more ubiquitous than i was aware of.
What ?? No charts, no sounder, no local knowledge? Should you really be out there?
maybe bring him a caronlina skiff next time so he can go in shallow water becouse that's what he likes ?
Lol 😂
Bottom is sand? 😬
Yep. Luckily for all these boats that get stuck, it's sand/mud bottom 99% of the time (1% oyster bar)
✏How much do you draw? "Oh once in a while, when I am bored, and nothing on the tele."
J/112e for sale. Marina girl. Never grounded and never raced. Immaculate condition.
Lol 😂
Yes, it would run counter to business, but these guys really need a ten minute lesson in navigation. Red, right, return. On the ICW Green buoys are on the Gulf side. Learn how to read a chart plotter. He has a chart plotter, right? I run my 19' CC boat out of Cortez, so a lot of your rescues are on familiar ground.
I'm not 10min would be enough to teach them what they'd need to know about navigating around this area...
@@CaptKenO No substitute for practice and experience once you learn the basics. Sometimes that is by grounding in unfamiliar areas.
The rest of the world does it the other way. The rest of the world is right
he need to look at a chart or he just dont know how deep he needs to be.
Either one makes him a danger on the water.
He knew what is draft was...so I'm guessing he just didn't look at the chart. Either way, he wasn't a danger to anyone
This guy should trade for some used jet skis
You should charge him a little more everytime... he'll never learn that way...
He doesn't pay anything actually. It's all covered under his membership
Thought you quit??????????????????????
You've got a bit of catching up to do...🤔😂
I quit working for the guy down in Venice and started working up in Sarasota
@@CaptKenO Thanks for clearing up my confusion.
Perhaps this guy though of you buy 2 you get the 3rd one free. LoL.
Except these were free with his membership...🤔 😂
He was obviously RYA trained and probably just finished his “fastrack yacht masters course”!
"3 X in 3 hours" just means you're in Florida...
And a terrible captain
I LOVE stupid people, always makes me a ton of money!!!!
What's the definition of insanity again?
Something about doing the same thing over again expecting different results..........😂
@@CaptKenO Oh yeah that’s what it is! 😉
What is the matter with this dude, grounding your boat in your own back yard multiple times over a couple of days shows a real lack of seamanship skills
Well, there's certainly no doubt about a lack of navigation skills...😬
7 foot draft in the gulf coast? Hahahahahaha what a dummy. That's not an area friendly to that much draft.
Most definitely not!
Man just went thru this area in a sailboat, the water way is extremely narrow and tricky. But the fact that it’s narrow also makes it easy. Dude shouldn’t be on a boat like this.
In all fairness I bumped in the channel near the mangroves and the anchorages at long boat pass.