The Complete History Of Top Lane And The Top Lane META
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2018
- This video will be covering a complete history of top lane, and the META around top lane. Recently, top lane has been the subject of a lot of debate due to hashinshin making the front page of reddit. Bruisers not having a keystone. Wickd, Adrian Riven, Dekar, ICU debate over bruisers and top lane. And I wanted to make a video covering the League of Legends history of the top lane role and the champions.
Thank you all who helped me research this video:
Psyklone, Dekar, Gbay99, Multiple people on twitter, and my discord server.
Source videos and Credit:
Riot Games League of Legends LCS, World Championships, World Cyber Games
Dyrus, Keyori, Hashinshin, Voyboy, Gbay99, Gosu, HotshotGG
Research and Source Links:
forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/...
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lol.gamepedia.com/2010_World_...
forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com...
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
www.gamesoflegends.com/champio...
forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/...
/ leagueoflege. .
/ summonerscho. .
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Music is from Royalty Free Planet, Timecop1983, and Runescape 3 Soundtrack. All credit for the music goes to these sources, I did not make the music.
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Dude... This took a bunch of time and effort to make, didn't it?
Much respect. Great content.
Rafael Ito thank you!!! Yeah it took about 10 days of research and editing etc
#UnMuteExil
Great video but in season 3 it wasnt just the champions who could abuse cleaver, EVERYONE stacked cleavers.
Example: forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=858864 Lulu support 4 cleavers
Turned out as a great history lesson tho :D really interesting to hear about all that since I've only played from the end of S6
Great work. I hope you get 10 days of ad revenue. 26 minutes, watched the entire thing. Great Video
The intro sounded almost exactly like the Speedrun Series from Summoning Salt.
There's a reason for that.
Yea, I'm curious about that too. He even talked about speedrunning in this lol.
Those videos are like drugs I swear xD
What is the song?
It is the same song...
The history is easy: Top lane is an forgotten place, then Renekton appears, then Renekton dominates the island with iron fangs and bloodthirsty, then, he suddenly leaves, and the island is again forgotten...
as a top main idk s8 is was pretty good like, sterraks increasing tri force proc dmg, geez what was riot thinking. Inc 900 dmg camille q's at lvl 13
@@joshuaaberle9980 played Camille a lot and it's very frustrating for EVERY champion if u get a 1k true Dmg Bruce Lee kick in ur face every 3-4 seconds
The good old season 3 Sunfire Cape rush double kill Renekton.
Lmao toplane has the most cancer champs ever
I love how this is a time capsule, I wonder if anyone could have planed that in 2021 toplane would be the place where tanks deal 1000+ raw damage with a regular spell to each others
Now tanks are basically a meme class LOL
Why ever pick any tank when you can CC more, effectively tank more ( by healing) as Aatrox/Morde etc
I find it sad that there were so many content creators that pleaded for tank nerfs, bruiser buffs, but now that tanks are unplayable there's only 1 person with a voice ( TheBauffs)
respect for actually taking time to make some great content. not just daily clips of basic kills. bless you kellen
thank you man!!
Great video, I think you should add Juggernaut meta in the video, it was the time where bruisers ( Darius,Garen,Morde and Skarner) were insanely OP and nothing could really stop them but 100% ban rate of almost every single of them) Peace.
He should do this for every lane/role
Exil im new to your channel, but this is way more entertaining and informative than the lol highlight channels that have somuch view.
You do deserve all the view and sub.
kellen is exil and i think he might have played some runescape im not sure.
As a league player since season 1, i gotta say this video was very well made and brought back some good memories.
I saw the old graves and I died, because i miss him so much.
Oh how I miss old graves... RIP
i miss season 4 so much
no talk about philosopher's stone and heart of gold??
17:45 When Shen was a dwarf, good old times.
Good video, i think im not the only one who want a video like this for other roles! great work!
haha maybe i will for the future!
I agree
Korean Nidalee weeb
That would be amazing
Jungle would be cool
This brought a tear to my eye... amazing video that hits early season players right in the feels.... i will never forget my awesome times in the top lane before my bruisers got gutted and left to rot away from the rest of the game.... but there is a bright side to this, we got to play other stuff too and we were tasked to deal with something completely different from last season, and it was a great way to get a better understanding of all the champion classes in the game, and the game’s “parts” themselves. From the early game aggression and lane sustain, to the late game, team focused gameplay, we have an opinion for everything, since we have played through all the metas and all these seasons. TOP LANE MAINS, UNITE!!!! ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
AMEN
lol u can still play bruisers in solo queue. If you're playing against like elite players you'll be punished but it should be fine for the most part.
#United!
I found the light Tryndamere maining top lane. Still get to kill, still get to sustain, have great cs. but fails in an even skill match vs range.
Quit top went jungle and camp top= freelo biblethumb give athmog back😓
Oh man.. #demgoodolddays
Bruh the music and the start reminded me of summoning salt
ye that's quite cheap
Yea I didn't like that
almost because it is
Do you guys know the name of the first song? It seems really familiar but I can't find it on YT
this video is made with the formula established by ss imo
Pretty accurate and well made video but you skipped over a lot of historical items that impacted how and why changes were made. Old Ninja tabi and dodge meta, Base crit chance (which is why gangplank was top) Heart of gold, Starks fervor, Executioners calling when it gave you 100% attack speed for 4 seconds, Sunfire Stacking, Boot enchantments, And one that is still in the meta today, corrupting potion which basically started the cancer of top that was Brand
nice old day when u just buy 6x Sunfire and burn enemy to ash with perma invis as Evelin , oh ... but u have point , this video really miss important stuf like dodge and other shit u say .
Fking hated old gangplank with crit runes. He almost 1 shots lv 1
Wasn't that sword of the devine
Also Juggernaut update completely changed every aspect of the meta in every lane.
Ummm why didn’t you go over season 4-7 top lane meta? You just went through a list of the most picks of those seasons. You didn’t talk about the sun fire cape meta, the juggernaut meta or even when hecarim was the best top laner with homeguards at one point. It seems like you rushed it at the end :/
David Tortallini you are right, I was just thinking the same thing.
26 minutes is long enough. if you want everything in a video you would need probably 10 hours.
More like around 40 minutes, since it's just the meta of top lane. There was not much else to discuss than the juggernauts and the Sunfire Cape- meta.
Jimi Nakari then why title it "The Complete History of Top Lane Meta" lol
David Tortallini why are you asking me, it's not like I'm the creator of this video?
15:20 I HEAR THAT AUTUMN VOYAGE IN THE BACKGROUND
and great video btw really enjoyed it
dude, the second that was on, i was like OMG NOSTALGIA
yeah uhhh same
WAIT GUDI !@@@@@@@@@!!!!@@ ITS GUDI!!!
AND NO FLUTE SALAD AND SEA SHANTY 2
Rito pls bring back 15 health pot garen
Potion Master Garen was the most balanced
All the top laners is becoming jungle nidalee,shyvanna,camille jax ect
Shayehvana*
Shyvana was always a jungle.
Diamondprox actually revolutionized jungle with it and shown the power of counter jungling
All midlane become support
But rek'sai became top lane.
What about olaf and volibear? 1st one on season 4 was playing on top MOSTLY, 2nd one i see often on jung than on top
That Runescape background music
I KNEW IT, I KNEW I WOULD FIND THIS COMMENT. Everybody who's anybody knows, so I knew at least 1 person would leave this comment. Ohhhh yes. That RS music will never get old. Stopped playing it regularly like 5 years ago. STILL GREAT.
why did u stop playing runescape? guessing you guys are dead by now though
This's been a trip down memory lane. I remember having so much fun with singed stacking warmogs and force of natures.
This really took me on a nostalgia trip. I hadn't really thought about how long ago I played this game, I remember getting wrecked by elixir of fortitude like it was yesterday. The game was so much fun back in season 2-4, on the old map, with ranked 3v3, dominion, and a huge variety of builds and strats that I haven't seen for years.
ah the annie top days
lol i got to plat with annie top last season, what are u talkin about
@@zfjjk Plat isn't even high elo
@@opgroundzero2.0 and you are?
@@bro_was_here_jr6912 Even if I'm not Plat doesn't mean Plat is high elo.
OP Ground Zero is wrong. I hear this all the time and it's just not true. Platinum players are in the 87th to 96th percentile (give or take). Therefore Platinum is high ELO. Gold cannot make that claim because a good 30% of the community is in Gold. Diamond is like the top 3% of players right before the pros, so that is "very high" ELO. Master and Challengers are of course the elite, but I don't see how that should diminish the achievement of plat players.
Imagine, there are currently people playing lol, who are younger than the game it's self.
Many people still play the original counter-strike which came out 9 years before league, it's not that uncommon
I have a kid that plays that was born a couple months after launch. :P
like I do, don't get me wrong, I have a pretty good PC (i7 7700k + gtx 1070, 16GB RAM etc), but I just cant stop playing CS1.6, I've been playing it since 2002...
Were his first words "Better jungler wins ggez"?
50% of the playerbase actually lul
0:35 "why is toplane always tank vs tank" because your jungler is yi main and stfu how dare you question the great xXmomfvcker69420Xx , also can't count on your support to take a tank cuz he just saw an awesome new guide to full ap lux supp and "trust me guys, gonna carry you all, just bought this champ like 5 min ago"
True
@@Noobie2k7 AP malphite
@@vemundberget3432 Oops i accidently deleted my comment when i meant to edit it LUL. Yeah, i play full AP Malphite sometimes but i'm too nice tbh in soloq and i will build tank if my team needs me too. Ryze was probably my favourite toplaner of all time though, i say was because he's not even the same champion anymore really. I built him super tanky like Archangels being my only real pure damage item, Archangels, RoA, Frozen heart, Iceborn Gauntlet, Banshee's veil etc.
The rough reality of soloq
Mightydark7427 o the reality is that some people wouldn’t even take a free win if the build or champ is so anti meta. eg I played a game a week ago which had me play ahri (yes I know it isn’t meta breaking) and the kaisa I had just sat doing nothing. I reached a 17/3 KD and yet the kaisa asked me if I wanted to lose because and I quote “ahri isn’t meta” and “I don’t feel like winning today”
Aatrox was really good when zephyr was an item.
it basically gave everything that he needs
Irelia too
Godyr
Aatrox before rework was top3 toplaner RIP Aatrox who got replaced by Riven
I wiuldnt agree more i miss Full attack speed aatrox plus zyphyr
Damn dude, as a pre season one player this really hit the mark. I've been through most of these metas, I remember the atmogs (we used to do a full 5 man team with atmogs or metagolem with trinity just to troll around), the black cleaver meta (had a lot of fun with pantheon and renekton there), the awful yorick top (which I did play sometime), the "build everything tank" (tank akali, for example), the dreaded elixir of fortitude (as a nasus player, that was awful to play against), the sunfire stacking (both garen, and evelyinn for trolling), the TP, the 2 v 1 sustain top (used to take vlad then, and renekton).
Hell, I remember a time when Lee's E was bugged for us south americans, it allowed us to cast it twice due to lag issues, and it did double damage. It was fun to have an edge on something lol. It all reminds me how much the game has changed, in visuals, meta, balance, items, everything.
I appreciate how much effort you put on your videos, I now this is an older one now since it's 2021 but it's still a good look to the past. Good job.
Season 3-4 was the time I enjoyed League the most! I will never forget the good old days
season 1-4 was amazing i agree
2-4 was a blast. I quit right before they got rid of runes. Can't seem to find a moba that scratches the same spot the way league did.
Basically stopped playing after seson 4, played like once a year since then, now came back for season 8 to get one shotted by literally every assassin, gj riot
My old days were when dodge was a thing, you could use cheat engine on the masteries to get 100% spell cd, stacking sunfire, global ultis, twitch 1 minute stealth etc
Same here, I enjoyed league the most in season 2-4 and then played just for fun with friends.
19:35 that runescape music thoooo
Could you tell the name of that one? It'd be much obliged.
Hexis Runescape 3 Autumn Voyage - probably the only GOOD thing about runescape 3
man the lumbridge song nostalgia. hit me fking hard.
it starts @ around 15:30
dillon roy this fucking video is the reason why I started osrs back looool after 4yrs off without even thinking a sec about rs.
Nice video! Also runescape music being used is always neat.
I had flashbacks, when he mentioned Season3 and saw that "attemting to reconnect"... Man was EUW Servers a massive shithole. Thank god these days are over.
MORE LEAGUE HISTORY
ahhh season 2 the memories!!!!
i stopped playing this game in late 2013 due to getting older and getting a job and other personal reasons but man my drive to play again has been sky high but everyone says the game is shit now and all my friends are obviously the same age as me and have families and things now i just dont think it'd be the same
What age may i ask that your friends are having families?
24
@toot I started playing in Season 1 and still come back from time to time to league. Sure some changes suck and the game got somehow more complex, but it's still hella fun.
Of course I dont play like 8hours per day any more, have no 5v5ranked team, nor am I Diamond again, but the game still fulfills its purpose to me. Having fun, playing with different champs (no endless grind with the same champion), 1v1 and team game ...
I'm 26 now and say you should just try it out again :D
Play casual. You shouldn't need to devote your life to a game to enjoy it! I've been playing recently with a bunch of NYPD guys that are twice your age and brand new to the game. Sure, they ain't playing ranked but there is laughter, which is what counts.
Nowadays all I see is renekton, riven, irelia, Jax with nothing but conqueror
Jax is trash in low elo, too many counterpicks now. I play him jungle
tyttus imagine thinking counterpicks is a thing in low elo lol
It’s because conqueror was a busted Keystone and everyone could abuse it.
I'm pretty much an Illaoi one trick now. Though i still pick Heimerdinger top on occasion if i feel like bullying some thicc bois. .
@@bobdickens3674 Conqueror was never a busted keystone so many people just didn't understand the math. It dealt FAR less damage than any other damage keystone options like Electrocute. And most of its damage was tied to the AD that it gave. The true damage conversion added (and adds) so little damage as to be negligible.
But try explaining to people that it only converts some of your damage to true, that it doesn't add any new damage and their fuckin eyes glaze over like "but true damage."
But you don't even have to understand how it works to fucking verify how shit the keystone was and is. Just take it and look at its damage dealt throughout the game, then take Electrocute or even fucking Arcane Comet and see how the numbers will be multiples higher.
Honestly Conqueror tilts me so fucking much because it literally only had 1 patch where it was even really good. And that was because it gave a lot of AD early game.
The only use the keystone has now is for that 8% pre-mitigation healing. But even then it's trash because you only get that after its fully stacked, which to do so you'll have already blown most if not all of your kit and several basic attacks to do.
Its completely trash now on all but a few champions that stack it really quickly without having to burn 90% of their damage to do so, like Riven.
And even then it's trash because the converted true damage is so low, and the healing is win-harder since you cannot use it to sustain the lane but it only works in all-ins.
Should just be freakin removed at this point. Even best case scenario for it right now is when enemies have a lot of armor. At 140 armor it increases your damage by 11.2% at 200 armor it increases your damage by 16%. At 50 armor its only increasing your damage by 4%. 100 Armor is the point where it increases your damage by 8%.
That is to say that after you've already burned most of your kit just to get this increased damage against high armor targets its effect is to increase your damage by relatively very little, consider that against 200 armor champions your damage is reduced heavily. You're only increasing what's left over by 16%
The fight is already decided by the time you've stacked Conqueror, you're either gonna win, or you're going to lose, conqueror isn't powerful enough to make a difference.
And it hasn't been for a very very long time.
For some reason through all the nostalgia and memories, there was one stronger nostalgic feeling.
And that was hearing a melody of "Autumn Voyage" whilst you were talking
Oh man, i remember, i was really fun to build 5 warmogs 1 atma's impaller and be unkillable. Now i'm feeling nostalgic about all these metas, and been happy that i was since season 2.
This is a really good video, i swear to god you deserve more subs. Your content is always such high quality
high quality lol youtuber.
Zach McCann thank you so much. I appreciate it ;:;
I love all the time and effort you put into this video. I joined league in march 2018 because a friend recommended it. As someone who not just studies current items and metas but also past metas and histories or teams items and gameplay I really appreciate it. While it seems a bit spotty in coverage (especially in the later half of the video) I appreciate you putting this video together and understand the time constraints. I would love a follow up vid and keep up the good work my dude. See you on the rift
Why all youtubers have same voice; i remember this voice from other channels.
Mobalytics
Because people with weird voices aren't successful on YT because nobody wants to listen to them
@@TheodoreVoisard tobias fate lol
Lan yuno
@@TheodoreVoisard Chills.
Exil, the quality of your content always blows me away. I can't even imagine how many hours of research and content gathering you had to do to make this video. Keep up the good work!!
P.S. where the hell are your deserved subs??? TH-cam is whack man
thank you Lucas!!! means a lot to me :D
Wow man awesome video! First ever LoL video over 10 minutes i actually sit through with my hands locked under my chin lol, awesome vid man cant say it enough keep up the good work, looking forward to some more awesomeness and gonna scroll through your channel, actually made an account just to write this cus u deserve some recognision
Thank you so much man that's awesome to hear. Thanks!!
This is how well made documentations should look like. Awesome work!
17:52 Nice vídeo my guy, keep up the good work
This is an amazing video. Hope you can do more like it. Exil God
Zigmas Alisauskas thank you :)!!
runescape music :D
Zudokus Selling friendship
Elven Sunlight in the Season 2 section of the video?
MinishLIVE Buying gf.
Great video man! Well done
(Loved the runescape soudrack)
Thank you! Very well researched and informational. Be sure to post it on Reddit, forums, and other outlets.
when you brought up hotshot at the start, I was expecting for you to play the "HE'S TOO TANKY!" clip.
Great vid. I started playing at the end of season 3 and I wish I knew enough about the game to abuse that pot lol.
thank you :D
I started first week of s3 and it was so fucking fun, Riven, Jax, Akali, Lee Sin, Olaf and TF were my favs to use it on.
Yeah i started playing on Yorick release day back in 2011, that little clip got me right in the feels, sent me back to being a 16 y/o Ashe main all over again. but as soon as season 2 kicked in i became a top laner/almost full time support. i went through all these meta's and i prefer the TP tank metas makes the game a true team game, tanks can solo kill these days aswell they bridged a gap but maybe too much.
RIP solo lane Wukong after that black cleaver fix in season 3. will he ever return?
My exactly thoughts
I think the solocarry potential is much lower than for example in season 4, i mean its still possible but different, now its more team based, back in s4 if u got fed u could carry the game alone easier. Now its much more complicated to carry alone.
Legit content, original and informative, not the basic 101 youtube video "look I did stream here is the best game I had all stream long". Keep doing that and you'll make it to the top.
The best like i gave on the year, great content, subscribed
Remember back in the days when Jax could dodge with his abilities and Tabis and Dodge-Runes still existed? All together he had 33% dodge chance!!!!!!
And he could stun after every dodge!
Conclusion: He was a fcking MONSTER XD
i loved it
Ap Warwick healing 600 hp off 1 q and chunking you for shitloads
Evelyn 5s stun and 60s stealth
In the beta, Jax had more than 90 percent dodge chance and he could 1v5 under fountain.
@Dislike Bot 15 Remembered one video about a Jax farming in the enemy fountain for nearly 5 minutes, only backing to use his gold.
Great vid amazing how much you could find out!
glad to hear it :)
This video made me sub. This is the first video I've seen of yours. Very well made.
Such an amazing research job! Impressive
Great video but I think you forgot to include a huge point, the shift to tanks during season 6 was heavily impacted by the Juggernaut update Riot did towards tanks and them redisgning many champions.
Best video i have seen in a long time. Wp m8
Please make one of these videos for other roles. This has got to be one of my favourite videos of all time, I love seeing the history of league, and analysing individual roles is so interesting to me.
That was an extremely well made video. Kudos man
Engages on tank at 1 hp
*WTF MAN TANK META OP*
Well if you're laning against a tank, chances are if anyone is 1hp, it's not the tank.
Thats so fucking true tbh its not fair
sounds like hashinshin towerdiving someone with hourglass and then complaining how that item is broken (not saying it isnt but you probably shouldnt dive someone who has it)
AxelKunHueHue True its mainly to asist tower diving or denie tower dives
AxelKunHueHue hashinshin is mentally insane. This guy only whines and whines even if it his dumb mistake
I remember everything since S3, dude, I almost started crying
Damn wish there was a vid like this for all roles. Good job on this video :D Thanks for all the info
This is some great research :D I've played the game in S1 but quickly turned to just watching the professional scene, whatever it was worth pre-LCS
I am/used to be a kennen main, i loved playing him with my blood moon skin before the new runes... Now hes barely playable.. Not because he was nerfed... Because of the new runes and meta, i used to be able to, if i played my cards right, bully the top laner and outplay etc... Now i do like negative damage cuz its only tanks top/ no good ap assassin runes... Makes me sad man
"ranged champions are too good."
Well thanks a lot Exil now bruisers are played bot lane. xP
Meh, he's biased because he's a toplaner. In the end of the day, every player complains about it's counter. ADC's/mages complain about assasins, bruisers/tanks complain about ADC's, assasins complain about tanks/bruisers etc.
@@rickvangils100 nah its more like top lane is an island so if you get hard countered by a pick with no weaknesses he stonewalls and neither can play the game to win
@@rickvangils100 you literally couldn't be more wrong mate
@Gunner_kek Please try not to generalize everything. Many assassin mains complain about other assassins that have better burst than them, ADC mains complain about ADCs that have either a better laning or a stronger scaling.
I loved the visuals of the map at 8:37 ... Looks so magical.
Man you brought so many memories back to me. I used to main top back in season 2 and 3 bc people like fiora, irelia, and udyr it makes me miss how fun the game used to be back then. If I could play that state of the game today I would definately say yes.
OMG My heart litteraly poped out of my chest when he said "HotShot GG and his nedalee top" Till today when I hear top I remember that shit, never better times than those man...
There weren't ever better but the times of Heart of Gold.
Fabricio Clavel that and atma’s
Fabricio Clavel good meme, those were also the days of sword of divine draven. AKA everyone can be Tyler1
Jack Ream damn, sword of the divine with Draven, I remember when I was a noob and a Smurf fully stacked that item and we got one shotted lmao. Rip
Sword of Divine wasn't a stack item...
Jack Ream my bad Hahahahaha I confused with sword of the occult.
I miss top. It was my first main back since 2012 and boy was it the best out of all the roles. You just didn’t get the intimacy you felt against your opponent in any other lane. I’m getting all these ptsd flashbacks to black cleaver and elixir. But the honest truth was that if you were patient enough and knew when to attack it was nearly impossible to lose top lane no matter the comp. that’s what I love about it. If you get beat or go against a riven just afk farm and come back (unless you were the riven, then just solo baron).
Sadly after a while it would become harder and harder to avoid the tank meta. And when the game and player base forced me to choose between fun and team comp it really grated on my enjoyment and I eventually switched to mid then stopped playing all together around 2016-17. LoL imo was the best game ever up until 2015-ish and I’ve never gotten the same competitive drive I got out of league since. League was cancer but it was my cancer.
I started playing league in season 5 - preseason 6. Really fun to see what the game used to be like. Great video
I was a very prolific attack speed adc gnar back in season 5 hard stuck plat 4 but it was the shit nonetheless
2:50 Oh holy shit i miss the old Taric ❤❤👌
Tobias Schäfer honestly I was a bit of a taric main before his rework but I don't remember much from him. I've been playing since season 2 but I just don't remember much of the early seasons. My memory is trash and I feel like I missed out on a lot of good memories.
Would love to see this updated!
Subscribed and liked.When someone puts so much time and effort into something it means they love what they are doing. And there's nothing better than that. :)
that phrase at the end, it's so true. "counters aren't strong enough to counter them" So tired full tank champs such as maokai winning in damage against a riven, a champ that should be stomped in lane against aggressive bruisers (lane gods) and should play safe, lose some minions on early stages and be godlike in teamfights.
I'm not crying it's not unwinnable, but usually it's because the fault of the tank top and my effort and champion knowledge (riven) And not because i'm a natural counter, if i screw up once, it's really hard to come back, if he screw up once, doesn't happen anything really, he'll be tanky and useful with high base damage. (maokai is an example, there are champs like shen, malphite, it's the same shit) they have a clearly advantage only picking a boring sustained tank or a tank with high cc etc.
Riven always wins in damage, it's just she hops away too soon. Meowkai will fight you 10times longer then fight the next guy who comes to save you, then the next guy as he finally walks away in a controlled retreat.
creeping became too easy, especially for non damage builders. Imagine if creeps had 3x HP, then your riven damage build would actually be useful at clearing creeps and a champ like maokai would sit under tower for a very long time each wave rather than one shotting it
I get your point, but it became the other way around now. While back in the day tanks beat you outscaling you in teamfiggts, nowadays in order to beat tanks you need to outscale their damage. Good champs to do that are Jax, Fiora, Camille, etc. Thing is Riot put SO much % max health damage on tanks that the "tankiness" of bruisers (which was never stacking resistances, it always was stacking hp) its no longer there. A 1v1 between a 6 item Jax and a 6 item Ornn can really go either way (also building full lifesteal like Fiora barely works thanks to Bramblevest being so cheap and effective, so her "tankiness" is denied as well). Not to mention early game champs like Renekton or Pantheon who are esencially useless since they barely beat tanks in lane and they never outscale them since its not their job.
Also, what made bruisers good was the fact that if Irelia got on top of your adc, your adc was dead, straight up. Now there is so much cc, peel, sustain, adc steroids (fuck you, Janna) that you dont have the damage to kill the adc and you dont have the tankiness to deal with him until your team arrives.
Juan Pablo Artese also the adc can kill you with two autos but doesn t have to risk anything
"what made bruisers good was the fact that if Irelia got on top of your adc"
all hte good adcs now have like 2 CC abilities and an escape on top of a support doing this. they have over loaded all the modern champs kits to be both ranged and escape and Cc. if ranged champs had to keep range or die then then bruisers would be a thing again
I miss the old Yorick :( My favorite champ
i loved playing him, but clicking on those ghouls was the most aggravating thing when versing him
yea l feel you bro. Yorick was my main and just with that hero l climb bronze to dia 1. Now l never play him.Just doesnt feel like old yorick
Nooooooo old yorick was more cancer than renekton and darius. Then again i was a pantheon player :p.
Dude this is great. PLEASE MAKE MORE
respect for all the efford it took you to make this video.🙏🏻
19:29 young bjregsen awww.
Huge props for making such a big video, very enjoyable. Keep up the good work
Hashinshin would sit there for 30 minutes and complain about how Annie top is OP if he has to lane against a decent player playing Annie.
"She just stuns you and walks away! You can never trade with her because of the damage reduction on her E. TIBBERS IS BASICALLY A SECOND JUNGLER!"
did he really say that ?
@@ayylmao5447 sounds like something he would say, every champ is busted until he plays them, but once he plays them they need 100 buffs and the opponent needs to be deleted from the game
@@dungeoner2356 "NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED"
@@dungeoner2356 That's why he askef for nerfs on jax. Or Renekton. Or Camille. Or current Darius... Do you even watch his streams?
@@Ersilay The comments are 5 months ago m8, meta changed a bit, and we got new items and runes
Super cool Video! I would love to see one to every role :>
great video man, i respect the time u took to make this
Top lane meta 2018:
sion
Sion
SION
Is it bad that all I could notice was Runescape music during the video?
so did I .... and i haven't played RS for ... about 10 years xD
Same dude hahaha... couldn't not focus on it once I caught the tunes xd
I love this type of content. Man this was amazing to watch. Playing league since 2011 and that was a blast going through all the stuff I experienced while I went top. Top lane Solo Queue carrying was such an experience in season 1 and since then top lane has been my favourite lane so far. That Atmog Nasus +ult was hilarious, think at happened to me when I was playing irelia. Funniest moment playing league I've had in a long time. Dude was so salty everytime I outplayed him ;^)
Thanks for the awesome video. Memories of season 3 came back to me.
"Talon silence was removed" HE HAD A GODDAMN SILENCE ?????
justhereee cuttthroat E. silence the target for one second and appears behind your target.
Lots of people used to have a silence
You think Talon Silence is Broken?
What if I tell Kassadin had silence too
@@BroccoliWaffle he still does... it's just been nerfed hard to just a very very short silence that's really only good for breaking channels
@@jasong6501 its back? I don't play against Kassadin much and never noticed it
I know you got a lot of things covered in the meta. Did you mean to skip over smite tp cinderhulk top?
good research on the video, like for that Timecop1983 at the end.
Amazing short documentary
i heard runescape music
I see you snuck in a remix of Runescape’s “autumn voyage” for background music
Its not a remix, is the new edition
love the runescape bites on here ,cool vid man. Wish you used old school music tho, I just dig it way better. Man I do miss my rengar fort ignite cheese. That's what got me started on rengar and easily 500+ games of him later, still love my kitty.
give this man a medal, great content every video
Sweet old days when I played Gangplank with atmogs, got me to platinum for the first time #BibleThump
Lord Ogakor he was the real money maker
Xd
You guys also remember fratmogs?
back then when Gankplank could kill his own minions for moral boost. Good old times
25:57 that's because for some reason ADC players and Riot think that the job of countering tanks should be in bot lane not top lane
It is, for lategame teamfights. But beating a tank in lane really requires you to play 110% on most bruisers.
Not really, you just have to poke them to no end. There are champs that can do it. :)
Thx for this VOD so good
that 1v1 between renekton and nasus brought back memories, i remember when 1v1's between tanks would last at least 10 minutes.
You forgot the nerf of the modern Black Cleaver..
Why didnt people play Atmogs tahm/Ornn/illaoi?
Wtf
Thr3sh b0t are u trolling?
PeloPawe yes
Thr3sh b0t Xd
Tahm kench top is absolutely braindead and cancerous , please....
Imagine season 8 with atmogs and grasp
I haven't played league since 2013 but this piqued my interest and I'm glad in watched it. Great content!
I didn't know Summoning Salt makes LoL videos :D
Great video lad!