Well, it's not so good when you get caught using activist as fact checkers. Even less good when your side pretends to be Pure and Holy and ain't. Was all good for them as long as no one checked the fact checkers. Pay no attention to the folks behind the curtain.
The truth doesn't need protection, it isn't threatened by the lie, and it does not fear investigation. The lie needs absolute protection, is terminally threatened by the truth, and utterly fears investigation.
There should never be "fact checkers" to start with. But if there are, they should have increased liability for libel and slander. Any false assertion that they make should be automatically assumed to be deliberately defamatory and they should be liable for punitive damages. They are deliberately defaming people under the Orwellian guise of "fact checking".
Virginia Trioli is soon back on ABC TV hosting an Arts Program. Probably working hard to fit Julian Burnside, Marcia Langton, Behrouz Boochani and a plethora of others in the program. No doubt her friends from RMIT Arts will help her out. We Australians are so fond of funding our own destruction!
What would a top tier barrister say about the Voice? Stuart Wood AM KC, "It is unconscionable that a government would, with full knowledge, put forward a seriously deficient and misleading question, in an attempt to misinform the Australian people at a referendum as critical as the one ahead" (IPA, 12th September, 2023).
The Voice is part of a six stage strategy, the Voice itself is stage 5 and stage 6 is Makarrata. The aims are clearly stated "A TREATY could include a proper say in decision making, the establishment of a TRUTH commission, REPARATIONS, a financial settlement (such as seeking a PERCENTAGE OF GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, RECOGNITION OF AUTHORITY and CUSTOMARY LAW" (from page 19 of a 26 page document released under FOI (FOI/2223/016) from the National Indigenous Australian Agency, page 1 is titled Uluru statement from the heart [centre justified]) "Makarrata is the culmination of our agenda" from the Uluru Statement from the Heart (page 1). So its very clear not only is the Voice a planned assault on democratic principles, not only does it introduce race/cultural identity into the constitution, its part of an agenda that the Prime Minister himself promotes VOICE - TREATY - TRUTH. He even has the T - shirt. The National Indigenous Australian Agency (under Linda Burney) has had executive authority to close the gap since 2019. (e) specify the functions of the National Indigenous Australians Agency be as follows: iii. to lead and coordinate the development and implementation of Australia’s Closing the Gap targets in partnership with Indigenous Australians; (Federal register of legislation, C2019G00474). I note, life expectancy for Indigenous men increased from 56.6 years in 1999 to 65.6 years in 2018 (change, 9.0 years; 95% CI, 7.9-10.0 years) and from 64.8 to 69.7 years for Indigenous women (4.9 years; 95% CI, 3.2-6.7 years); Med J Aust 2022; 217 (1): 30-35. || doi: 10.5694/mja2.51553 Moreover the three clauses to be inserted into section 129 of the constitution do not include the words advice, advisory or advise: - i There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander Voice. - ii The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to Parliament and the Executive Government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples. - iii The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice (AEC). Clearly unique access based on race/cultural identity to all levels of government. Vote NO "it is a ruthless con job" (Greg Craven, The Australian). In addition, Stuart Wood AM KC, "It is unconscionable that a government would, with full knowledge, put forward a seriously deficient and misleading question, in an attempt to misinform the Australian people at a referendum as critical as the one ahead" (IPA, 12th September, 2023).
It's incredible to me that as a society we keep looping back and becoming what we hate, what we fought against and died in order to avoid it happening. We all remember what happened in Germany when warped ideologies where forced on the general populace, guess what, we are doing it right now. So many correlations between then and what's happening now. We have the truth being sacrificed and lies being presented as fact, we have collaborators informing on those that don't toe the line and censorship or worse happening to those that voice dissent. Do some research about how Germany ended up like that, you will see some frightening similarities becoming evident. How long until we have jackbooted thugs dragging people off to 're-education camps', people are already having propaganda forced upon them. We are a terrible species.
we dont need another billion dollar millstone, split the existing one into abc 1 and abc 2 , take thye most lefty staff and put them on 2 and get a crew of righties for abc1 and we can tune into our own echo chamber? no, balanced reporting on a single united chanel , for a reunited people , after the division of the voice, the abc and labor are a bad memory
@@peterolsen9131 One needs a separate frequency for a second channel. For the righty channel How to stop infiltration seems tricky. Might be an age thing. We need grownups not young uni grads still fully brainwashed.
trouble is , they have infiltrated every institution in society nfor power and an agenda, not the happiness and freedom of the people , let balone the safety and sanity of the children, " were coming for your children " at that rally is still ringing in my head like an alarm bell!@@kimbo99
It's not close at all, the NO vote is way ahead of the yes vote. The yes vote started off 10 points in front and now it's 10 points behind and falling.
Only the inner city cafe latte wokerati will be voting yes. They've never actually ventured beyond the suburbs, let alone met an actual aborigine. The average Aussie is not buying this BS.
Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of lefty fruit cakes out there. You only have to look at the Kangaroo Court of Australia to see these people exist.
The fact it comes from an Institution in Victoriastan, a state run by Chairman Dan. How often has the Chairman forgotten corruption and sucked in people to vote for him. He runs a great Commonwealth Games.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Sorry I meant chook raffle to raise money to pay the $380 million for not running the Commonwealth Games. Just my opinion
If one states one identifies as a member of said community, how is that validated. Does the person càrry a little card ? One of the criteria is acceptance of the individual by the community.
How dare the community not accept someone. As a transgender lesbian minor attracted indigenous person of colour I demand to be accepted by everyone. In fact, I demand compensation for being discriminated against. Sarcasm.
at the moment it's "wear the mask" and "show the medical proof you are a compliant little sheep" may as well draw crossed syringes on your mask and wear it on your right arm. Same players, same ideology.
RMIT is only the means of communicating this nonsense. Individuals are responsible for the content and must be held individually responsible...get in their faces at every opportunity.
700 is an acceptable sample size relative to the population IF the sample is truly random. The issue is really the difficulty of getting a random sample with this population - many of them don't have phone numbers or stable mailing addresses etc.
That sample size would probably be questioned if the country it was polled from was Monaco. Especially because of who did the polling and how. The ONLY circumstance I can think of when this could be acceptable is when an incredibly rare disease is involved, but again your sample size MUST REFLECT a significant portion of the effected population. The sample size here would have been like asking A SINGLE CITIZEN of the country of Monaco. 🤐
@@spacewater7 Due to the central limit theorem, the sample size actually does not need to reflect a significant proportion of the population. A properly random sample size of 1000 will have almost exactly the same error rate (95% chance of within 3.1%) whether the population is 1 million or 1 billion or 1 trillion. In this case, a random sample size of 700 out of ~1 million gives a 95% probability that the true proportion is within 3.7% of the sample. A sample size of 1000 would have given a 95% probability of the true value being within 3.1%. It's not as though having 300 fewer samples suddenly invalidates everything, it just makes the error bars larger. The woman who complained that a majority weren't asked is essentially admitting she has no idea how statistics works, since no political polls ask a majority of the population. As I said, the real issue is how do you find a truly random sample here. Just picking random phone numbers is likely to significantly bias the results towards the urban dwelling subgroup.
What? Around 80% of Indigenous Australians live actually live in major cities and make a major contribution to the Australian way of life. The majority don't sit around smokey campfires in the remote outback.
So, you are telling me it's not a good thing to have activists as fact checkers! Who'd have thunk it.
Well, it's not so good when you get caught using activist as fact checkers. Even less good when your side pretends to be Pure and Holy and ain't. Was all good for them as long as no one checked the fact checkers. Pay no attention to the folks behind the curtain.
Not you, by the sound of it.
nope, i'm telling you that fact checking in general is fundamentally anti-democratic.
No comment! There, I've been a good little compliant UTuber!
That’s what ALL “fact checkers” are! It’s just other leftist pretending to be infallible & disinterested. It’s crap!
I would feel ashamed if i had to put RMIT on my resume as a place that taught me.
Thats a red flag for any decent employer.
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Thankfully Box Hill TAFE still has credibility.
Should tell you everything you need to know about the voice.
The Voice is just a far left power grab.
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A lab is where they manufacture a special kind of truth
And special bat truth syrum..woo hhoo uhan
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This is why we don't need fact checkers such as RMIT
we dont need ANY fact checkers at all. fact checking is pointless if a 3rd party is doing it. the practise is fundamentally anti-democratic
why we don't need "fact checkers" at ALL,
"they" never DID until we pushed back against, their m e s s a g e.
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It's at moments like this, when we find out how good Australian lefties really are, at saying, "sorry".
They are never sorry. If they ever say it, they were lying through their teeth.
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The truth doesn't need protection, it isn't threatened by the lie, and it does not fear investigation.
The lie needs absolute protection, is terminally threatened by the truth, and utterly fears investigation.
RMIT: Ruthless Misinformation Invalidating Truth
FactLab: A lab where preferred facts are made through controlled conditions.
Keep following the story Jack👍🏻
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RMIT "War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," and "Ignorance is Strength."
you got it , 1984 was a work of fiction, not an owners manual for slaves
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There should never be "fact checkers" to start with. But if there are, they should have increased liability for libel and slander. Any false assertion that they make should be automatically assumed to be deliberately defamatory and they should be liable for punitive damages. They are deliberately defaming people under the Orwellian guise of "fact checking".
Yes it’s called the gov o with their mis and dis bill who want to put us in the clink if we say something they don’t like. Check the bill .
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GOOD WORK JACK, YOU'RE AN EXCELLENT REPORTER.👍
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so these people are now employees , so we DO HAVE a ministry of truth and it's based in melbourne.
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Whoever teaches statistics at RMIT should be sacked
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So good you’re staying on this Jack and guests.
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Virginia Trioli is soon back on ABC TV hosting an Arts Program. Probably working hard to fit Julian Burnside, Marcia Langton, Behrouz Boochani and a plethora of others in the program.
No doubt her friends from RMIT Arts will help her out.
We Australians are so fond of funding our own destruction!
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What would a top tier barrister say about the Voice? Stuart Wood AM KC, "It is unconscionable that a government would, with full knowledge, put forward a seriously deficient and misleading question, in an attempt to misinform the Australian people at a referendum as critical as the one ahead" (IPA, 12th September, 2023).
The Voice is part of a six stage strategy, the Voice itself is stage 5 and stage 6 is Makarrata. The aims are clearly stated "A TREATY could include a proper say in decision making, the establishment of a TRUTH commission, REPARATIONS, a financial settlement (such as seeking a PERCENTAGE OF GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, RECOGNITION OF AUTHORITY and CUSTOMARY LAW" (from page 19 of a 26 page document released under FOI (FOI/2223/016) from the National Indigenous Australian Agency, page 1 is titled Uluru statement from the heart [centre justified]) "Makarrata is the culmination of our agenda" from the Uluru Statement from the Heart (page 1).
So its very clear not only is the Voice a planned assault on democratic principles, not only does it introduce race/cultural identity into the constitution, its part of an agenda that the Prime Minister himself promotes VOICE - TREATY - TRUTH. He even has the T - shirt.
The National Indigenous Australian Agency (under Linda Burney) has had executive authority to close the gap since 2019. (e) specify the functions of the National Indigenous Australians Agency be as follows: iii. to lead and coordinate the development and implementation of Australia’s Closing the Gap targets in partnership with Indigenous Australians; (Federal register of legislation, C2019G00474).
I note, life expectancy for Indigenous men increased from 56.6 years in 1999 to 65.6 years in 2018 (change, 9.0 years; 95% CI, 7.9-10.0 years) and from 64.8 to 69.7 years for Indigenous women (4.9 years; 95% CI, 3.2-6.7 years); Med J Aust 2022; 217 (1): 30-35. || doi: 10.5694/mja2.51553
Moreover the three clauses to be inserted into section 129 of the constitution do not include the words advice, advisory or advise: - i There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander Voice. - ii The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to Parliament and the Executive Government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples. - iii The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice (AEC).
Clearly unique access based on race/cultural identity to all levels of government. Vote NO "it is a ruthless con job" (Greg Craven, The Australian).
In addition, Stuart Wood AM KC, "It is unconscionable that a government would, with full knowledge, put forward a seriously deficient and misleading question, in an attempt to misinform the Australian people at a referendum as critical as the one ahead" (IPA, 12th September, 2023).
It's incredible to me that as a society we keep looping back and becoming what we hate, what we fought against and died in order to avoid it happening. We all remember what happened in Germany when warped ideologies where forced on the general populace, guess what, we are doing it right now. So many correlations between then and what's happening now. We have the truth being sacrificed and lies being presented as fact, we have collaborators informing on those that don't toe the line and censorship or worse happening to those that voice dissent. Do some research about how Germany ended up like that, you will see some frightening similarities becoming evident. How long until we have jackbooted thugs dragging people off to 're-education camps', people are already having propaganda forced upon them. We are a terrible species.
the children of those same players are now ruling through the WEF, the 1000 Reich marches on...
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"Deceit and discrimination are justified, and necessary, to achieve our agenda." Marx
Thank you for bringing this issue to light. When the 'watchers' are unable to be unbiased they are no longer reliable, in any sense.
We need another ABC for balance --a Conservative partisan ABC. How to create one ? How to stop infiltration ?
we dont need another billion dollar millstone, split the existing one into abc 1 and abc 2 , take thye most lefty staff and put them on 2 and get a crew of righties for abc1 and we can tune into our own echo chamber? no, balanced reporting on a single united chanel , for a reunited people , after the division of the voice, the abc and labor are a bad memory
We just need the existing ABC to play by the rules.
@@peterolsen9131 One needs a separate frequency for a second channel. For the righty channel How to stop infiltration seems tricky. Might be an age thing. We need grownups not young uni grads still fully brainwashed.
trouble is , they have infiltrated every institution in society nfor power and an agenda, not the happiness and freedom of the people , let balone the safety and sanity of the children, " were coming for your children " at that rally is still ringing in my head like an alarm bell!@@kimbo99
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Just another false positive at the lab.
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It's accepted that university students are leftist, and their views or findings are highly questionable.
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If it's 20% of aboriginal people who support it I will be surprised
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it's truly alarming how close it is though, how so many want to vote yes is truly scary.
Most people I speak to are voting no ...only a few are voting yes that I've come across
It's not close at all, the NO vote is way ahead of the yes vote. The yes vote started off 10 points in front and now it's 10 points behind and falling.
Only the inner city cafe latte wokerati will be voting yes. They've never actually ventured beyond the suburbs, let alone met an actual aborigine. The average Aussie is not buying this BS.
Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of lefty fruit cakes out there. You only have to look at the Kangaroo Court of Australia to see these people exist.
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Curse them, hope they get get done,
Don't they know that marking her with a cross will be ignored!
RMIT OwnGoals Lab.
you wanna fix the problem - stop hiring RMIT graduates.
If a legal vote cant go through without interference, Vote with your feet.
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He who would have thought that the fact-checkers were biased😂
The fact it comes from an Institution in Victoriastan, a state run by Chairman Dan. How often has the Chairman forgotten corruption and sucked in people to vote for him.
He runs a great Commonwealth Games.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Sorry I meant chook raffle to raise money to pay the $380 million for not running the Commonwealth Games. Just my opinion
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"Fact Lab" has as much credibility as "The Ponds Institute"
😂😂😂
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How many Leftist graduates created by RMIT each year?
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Are the words "fake" and "woke" new synonymous?
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FACT SUPPRESSORS
Give some credit to Rukshan please. He was ahead of you guys.
If one states one identifies as a member of said community, how is that validated. Does the person càrry a little card ? One of the criteria is acceptance of the individual by the community.
How dare the community not accept someone. As a transgender lesbian minor attracted indigenous person of colour I demand to be accepted by everyone. In fact, I demand compensation for being discriminated against. Sarcasm.
at the moment it's "wear the mask" and "show the medical proof you are a compliant little sheep"
may as well draw crossed syringes on your mask and wear it on your right arm. Same players, same ideology.
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I'd love to see how the RMIT Fact Lab responds if the woman they invalidated asks them for a public apology
Seems RMIT Fact-Checkers are gilding the lilly
Real Marxist Institute of Thickology
RMIT is only the means of communicating this nonsense.
Individuals are responsible for the content and must be held individually responsible...get in their faces at every opportunity.
738 minus 1/3.
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Partisan hacks...
Why were RMIT (or any university) chosen to be fact checkers, and most importantly, who chose them?
You can identify as a house brick but it doesn’t make you one.
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Take back facts
Also. Is pretty much a scientific term Sophie? 🥸
"Silently deleting"? Please explain, Sky, how you _noisily_ delete something.
My security app just logged intrusive redirect attack on play services app and yt app. Won't play video.
Take a biro and vote no. Also get a copy of your title.
sue the karnts
Oh yay, sky, where's the real news?
700 is an acceptable sample size relative to the population IF the sample is truly random. The issue is really the difficulty of getting a random sample with this population - many of them don't have phone numbers or stable mailing addresses etc.
That sample size would probably be questioned if the country it was polled from was Monaco. Especially because of who did the polling and how. The ONLY circumstance I can think of when this could be acceptable is when an incredibly rare disease is involved, but again your sample size MUST REFLECT a significant portion of the effected population. The sample size here would have been like asking A SINGLE CITIZEN of the country of Monaco. 🤐
@@spacewater7 Due to the central limit theorem, the sample size actually does not need to reflect a significant proportion of the population. A properly random sample size of 1000 will have almost exactly the same error rate (95% chance of within 3.1%) whether the population is 1 million or 1 billion or 1 trillion.
In this case, a random sample size of 700 out of ~1 million gives a 95% probability that the true proportion is within 3.7% of the sample. A sample size of 1000 would have given a 95% probability of the true value being within 3.1%. It's not as though having 300 fewer samples suddenly invalidates everything, it just makes the error bars larger.
The woman who complained that a majority weren't asked is essentially admitting she has no idea how statistics works, since no political polls ask a majority of the population.
As I said, the real issue is how do you find a truly random sample here. Just picking random phone numbers is likely to significantly bias the results towards the urban dwelling subgroup.
What? Around 80% of Indigenous Australians live actually live in major cities and make a major contribution to the Australian way of life. The majority don't sit around smokey campfires in the remote outback.
@@chrismiddleton9088 Who said otherwise? Nothing you said is relevant to the discussion.
@@chrismiddleton9088 By the way that's a pretty negative stereotype you're using for contrast, I think some people would find that offensive
Sack the lot of them