I appreciate the transparency of the struggle my dude. You're not alone, the world is hitting pretty hard right now and I hope your channel survives it. I truly do appreciate your content. Will 100% join and support you once I get a little breathing room as well. We appreciate you and all you do!
Hdr pq is better than cinestyle for color grading in my opinion, just convert to 709 and it`s like a log style, and i use sigma 18 35, the result is amazing.
You know what you are talking.. CineStyle is totally fake .. Just raises shadows AFTER Canon digic already burns the data.. No use at all.. Can't believe it is still being promoted at 2023! HDR PQ is not log but use it with faithful profile(closest to rec709 colors) and grade at rec2100 color space at davinci... voila.. you got a lot more information there..
@@dba9923 Just search for Canon EF-EOS R, there is the viltrox generic, people said is very good and cheap, there is with filter and there is with focus ring.
Hi Zach... Amazing colors and great video.. I am not a professional filmmaker but I like to read and learn a lot.. You are wrong like %99 of the other Canon shooters about the cinestyle profile.. It is really not a flat profile. What it does is raising the shadows in camera but after the canon matrix burning the footage. So it is actually the same thing you can do at post and results are way too noisy shadows.. There is a reddit topic about this. A guy had managed to open the PF file and proved this. Alternatively..everybody talks about the neutral profile but I believe the faithful profile on Canon is the closest to REC709 colors. So it is always a good idea to shoot at Faithful and color grade slightly... This is the case for 8 bit... But... Again you missed another super important detail about this camera.. It has HDR PQ mode which is 10 bit. Not a true log but it has almost %50 more dynamic range than the 8 bit ones. Shoot at HDR PQ mode and grade at Resolve at Rec2100/2020 color space than export obviously at rec709.. You will be amazed.. There is an official Canon lut to convert the rec2020 color space to rec709 too.. This is indeed a mini pocket cinema camera for the little money... Others already mentioned about the sigma 18-35 f1.8.. add a mist filter.. and voila... cheers mate.. keep up the great work.. And if you are interested at watches.. take a look at my brand new YT channel :))
I thought this was a HDR PQ video. I used HDR PQ on the R6 and it was not ready for prime time. The HDR PQ on this along with neutral and contrast reduced along with D+ HTP should give you 13 stops of 10 bit video DR after conversion to REC709, the cinestyle may only give you 9+ stops of 8 Bit. If you had used HDR PQ and compared it to Cinestyle you would have stumbled upon something bigger then Zeek and Magic Lantern
Zach, I am actually glad you touched on this because there is not enough reviews for the r10. I actually got the r10 last year and I love you using it!
Hello, I’ve been eyeing the R10 for a few weeks now and really don’t know whether to go for it or not. I’d mostly need it for videography - It doesn’t have an IBIS, therefore needs an IS lens, gimbal.. it’s got digital IS (as I’ve seen) but the video was still shaky. Have you tried recording handheld videos ?
@@nataliamlatec5466 you compensate for the lack of IBIS by using a gimbal or a sturdy tripod. Even better with a stabilized lens. The 50mm is stabilized and it’s decent for basic video. Ibis on canons is terrible. Panasonic & sony do a better job.
As someone who primarily shoots handheld on pocket 6k this r10 has far surpassed my expectations. 10b without the hdr mode would have been nice but the 6k downsampled image on this thing is very impressive! Im not pixel peeping by any means but with the ef adapted sigma 18-35 and cinestyle profile im truly hard pressed to spot the difference between this and the bmpcc 6k. A solid AF system is a huge bonus too!
With this hack, this seems to be an okay competitor to the zv-e10 minus rolling shutter and autofocus. similar price point and if shooters are interested in building a canon based lens collection and scaling to the R5C or the Komodo/Raptor, this actually seems like a pretty affordable route to start with!
Really makes me wish more lenses adapted to the M mount line, because this camera is essentially the same as previous cameras (some without the 4k 60 crop), just with a RF mount.
I have had my R10 for 2 months now, a separate door for the SD card would have been nice and the low light performance isn't as good as full frame but it's a nice little camera. The AF is amazing and the focus peaking for manual lenses is pretty good.
Love your style man, keep pushing through the rough times, eventually your passion and love for your art will shine through and take you to easier times 💯👍
Hi Zach, German guy here starting to work his way into cinematic video just for fun/hobby, Got me the R10 because of your (and others) review. You*re funny, man. Got one question: When using a cinematic lense with wide aperture (35mm 1.2) how would be my autofocus setting if I want to achieve a shallow depth of field. Let's say camara starts behing some flowers or tree branches which should remain really unsharp, lifting camera up to my model which the should then be sharp. Do I completely turn off AF and pre-focus manually on my model before (What if model is walking/moving)? Or do I set AF on with people tracking? Thanx for a start point into cinematic videography... Doc from Germany
Would you prefer the R10 over a Sony A7III? I am able to get a A7III in very good conditions for a little less than the R10. I want to use for both photo and cinematic videography and that's why i am struggling because A7III can't record 4k 60fps. Not sure if this is a showstopper because R10 can record 4k 60 but only with crop and the videos aren't stabilized. Beside that i am shooting street/people. Want to go with a focal lense at around 35mm and a zoom with around 16-50mm f2.8 or even better
Hi, thanks for sharing this video. Sigma 18-35mm (EF mount) would be a great option too. Would you compare R10 + (viltrox) focal reducer VS "old" eos R autofocus and high ISO noise level ? Regards
Hi Frederic.. viltrox focal reducer has its own issues.. With sigma, since it is an apsc lens, you cant use the 18-24 part of the zoom.. Also it does not let you go below f1.8 on any lens other than canon lenses.. Electronic stabilizer also fails when using focal reducer.. And it is already discontinued due to Canon's warning against Viltrox.. Also it is not cheap IMO.. I would invest on full frame better EF/RF glass instead because now or later you will probably upgrade to a real full frame.. :) Meike EF-RF adapter with drop in ND filter might be a good accessory if you are serious on filming with R10/R7...
@@thewatchloupe Hi, thanks for your message. If I didn't need autofocus in small camera body I would go for M6 markII. As focal reducer loses some native adapter informations I guess EOS R is still worth buying if you are looking for full frame depth of field with autofocus. For better High ISO performances and (even better?) autofocus, R6 mark II would be great but out of budget. Maybe in 4-5years... Cheers
@@fairyteller5757 Hey, thank you so much for taking the time to write this. I really want to get that combo, actually but the S5ii made me consider it very seriously.
Hey Zach, for this video are you shooting in the normal 8 bit mode? Since the camera does have 10-bit footage but only in HDR mode interested in that too!!
Yep... shoot at HDR PQ and grade at Davinci Studio at rec 2100 color space... Export at rec709 and you will have way much better dynamic range.. Not a true log.. but almost a clog2 .. and you can use the Canon official bt2020 to bt709 converting lut for clog2 ... try it ..
you brought back nightmares to me with mentioning cinestyle , like it's 2016 , I either quit making vidoes or buy a camera with decent dynamic range , this cinestyle does not worth it in 2023.
Yup... CineStyle was never a flat profile. It never worked but It is so strange that still many TH-camrs are advising it. It was proved that it has nothing to do with being close to log. There is a PF editor and everyone can check what it is doing. It is actually raising the shadows AFTER Canon digic already wrote the matrix... So it is only doing what everyone can do at post production.. Super funny to still see it being discussed... However.. This R10 has HDR PQ mode and altough it is not a log profile... it is 10 bit and produces %50 larger files than standard mode with more color information in Rec2020 color space. And you can grade it in Davinci Studio... No more crazy blown out highlights .. Can't believe noone is still not talking about this .. Not enough.. I may consider starting a new YT channel about this :) .. R10 is great... Only concern is the rolling shutter but hey.. this is 800usd camera.. HDR PQ is almost clog 2... Try it..
You always go all out 200% in every one of your videos, and your content is consistently awesome. Praying for your channel growth this year! Thanks for all the excellent infotainment
Uhhhh... why has TH-cam takin this long to show me this guy. Dude you need to be in front of the camera not behind it. The acting & writing is on point.
As a Canon M50 user, we want to upgrade our skills. The R10 kit lens of sucks and it must have C-log. Without those it is never a great camera. 18-45 F4.5 (fastest)---- what is it?
Never a great camera? Says who? Great photos and video have been made on cameras for close to a 100 years. Don't get trapped by specs and as far as aperture. Is your entire goal to shoot wide open or low light? It's a kit lens....its a good cheap entry level lens that suits a balanced range of scenarios. It's better you learn to shoot with this aperture than get again trapped by the myth that the only good photos have a blurry background. If you have a Canon m50, this camera doesn't really help you upgrade your "skills". It's just giving you access to better feature set. But will those make your images/videos better? Not if you aren't good with understanding of the basics or even the capabilities.
@@getfmlrright lol Ive been using an m50 with a speedbooster or just striaght up better glass to shoot weddings as a 3rd backup angle. Is it a cinema camera, hell no. It gets the job done if you know its limitations.
Amazing editing and music... and comment to grow the statistics. r7 review is the next step for saving ken. also try more consumer lenses like sigma ef 18 to 35 and budget friendly rf 16 f2.8 and the new55-210mm. a friend from Greece
Love the Fuji colors and the way they add extra stuff to their cameras... but.. Dual pixel AF is great and only rival is the Sony system.. Panasonic and Fuji need to invest more on AF..
Join the channel here if you'd like to download the R10 footage! 👏🏻 www.youtube.com/@ZachMayfield/join
dude, I had a heart attack after seeing you hold that camera with expensive lens attached with one hand!
I appreciate the transparency of the struggle my dude. You're not alone, the world is hitting pretty hard right now and I hope your channel survives it. I truly do appreciate your content. Will 100% join and support you once I get a little breathing room as well. We appreciate you and all you do!
Hdr pq is better than cinestyle for color grading in my opinion, just convert to 709 and it`s like a log style, and i use sigma 18 35, the result is amazing.
You know what you are talking.. CineStyle is totally fake .. Just raises shadows AFTER Canon digic already burns the data.. No use at all.. Can't believe it is still being promoted at 2023! HDR PQ is not log but use it with faithful profile(closest to rec709 colors) and grade at rec2100 color space at davinci... voila.. you got a lot more information there..
Do u have a link for that adapter?
@@dba9923 Just search for Canon EF-EOS R, there is the viltrox generic, people said is very good and cheap, there is with filter and there is with focus ring.
good english bud @@thewatchloupe
Hi Zach... Amazing colors and great video.. I am not a professional filmmaker but I like to read and learn a lot.. You are wrong like %99 of the other Canon shooters about the cinestyle profile.. It is really not a flat profile. What it does is raising the shadows in camera but after the canon matrix burning the footage. So it is actually the same thing you can do at post and results are way too noisy shadows.. There is a reddit topic about this. A guy had managed to open the PF file and proved this. Alternatively..everybody talks about the neutral profile but I believe the faithful profile on Canon is the closest to REC709 colors. So it is always a good idea to shoot at Faithful and color grade slightly... This is the case for 8 bit... But... Again you missed another super important detail about this camera.. It has HDR PQ mode which is 10 bit. Not a true log but it has almost %50 more dynamic range than the 8 bit ones. Shoot at HDR PQ mode and grade at Resolve at Rec2100/2020 color space than export obviously at rec709.. You will be amazed.. There is an official Canon lut to convert the rec2020 color space to rec709 too.. This is indeed a mini pocket cinema camera for the little money... Others already mentioned about the sigma 18-35 f1.8.. add a mist filter.. and voila... cheers mate.. keep up the great work.. And if you are interested at watches.. take a look at my brand new YT channel :))
I thought this was a HDR PQ video. I used HDR PQ on the R6 and it was not ready for prime time. The HDR PQ on this along with neutral and contrast reduced along with D+ HTP should give you 13 stops of 10 bit video DR after conversion to REC709, the cinestyle may only give you 9+ stops of 8 Bit. If you had used HDR PQ and compared it to Cinestyle you would have stumbled upon something bigger then Zeek and Magic Lantern
Zach, I am actually glad you touched on this because there is not enough reviews for the r10. I actually got the r10 last year and I love you using it!
Hello, I’ve been eyeing the R10 for a few weeks now and really don’t know whether to go for it or not. I’d mostly need it for videography - It doesn’t have an IBIS, therefore needs an IS lens, gimbal.. it’s got digital IS (as I’ve seen) but the video was still shaky. Have you tried recording handheld videos ?
@@nataliamlatec5466 you compensate for the lack of IBIS by using a gimbal or a sturdy tripod. Even better with a stabilized lens. The 50mm is stabilized and it’s decent for basic video. Ibis on canons is terrible. Panasonic & sony do a better job.
As someone who primarily shoots handheld on pocket 6k this r10 has far surpassed my expectations. 10b without the hdr mode would have been nice but the 6k downsampled image on this thing is very impressive! Im not pixel peeping by any means but with the ef adapted sigma 18-35 and cinestyle profile im truly hard pressed to spot the difference between this and the bmpcc 6k. A solid AF system is a huge bonus too!
After the release of the R8, the R10 seems overpriced in a direct comparison between the two cameras.
With this hack, this seems to be an okay competitor to the zv-e10 minus rolling shutter and autofocus. similar price point and if shooters are interested in building a canon based lens collection and scaling to the R5C or the Komodo/Raptor, this actually seems like a pretty affordable route to start with!
Really makes me wish more lenses adapted to the M mount line, because this camera is essentially the same as previous cameras (some without the 4k 60 crop), just with a RF mount.
I have had my R10 for 2 months now, a separate door for the SD card would have been nice and the low light performance isn't as good as full frame but it's a nice little camera. The AF is amazing and the focus peaking for manual lenses is pretty good.
Love your style man, keep pushing through the rough times, eventually your passion and love for your art will shine through and take you to easier times 💯👍
I bought the R7 C-log 3,10 bit 422, 7K sensor down sampled to 4K. Put some nice glass on it and your good to go.
R10 is £700 used. R7 is £1100 used
Awesome. Which lens were you using on the R10 for your talking head shot in this video?
Did you try stabilizing it in DR? What about a video on how to get a Canon close to a BMPCC for what footage looks like?
Hi Zach, German guy here starting to work his way into cinematic video just for fun/hobby, Got me the R10 because of your (and others) review. You*re funny, man.
Got one question: When using a cinematic lense with wide aperture (35mm 1.2) how would be my autofocus setting if I want to achieve a shallow depth of field. Let's say camara starts behing some flowers or tree branches which should remain really unsharp, lifting camera up to my model which the should then be sharp. Do I completely turn off AF and pre-focus manually on my model before (What if model is walking/moving)? Or do I set AF on with people tracking? Thanx for a start point into cinematic videography... Doc from Germany
I started watching this channel in 2020 and it remains one of the best. Thank you.
Shoot in PQ and use davinci hdr to 709 color managment. You get 10 bit and much better dynamic range than standard profile.
Thanks for this video! I've been considering this camera for longer videos, so I'm wondering if it would work with a battery grip.
and why not use the hdr pq option? is 10bit 4:2:2
THANKU FOR MENTIONING THE BATTERY DOOR LMAO NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT AND IM LIKE WTF
Would you prefer the R10 over a Sony A7III? I am able to get a A7III in very good conditions for a little less than the R10. I want to use for both photo and cinematic videography and that's why i am struggling because A7III can't record 4k 60fps. Not sure if this is a showstopper because R10 can record 4k 60 but only with crop and the videos aren't stabilized. Beside that i am shooting street/people. Want to go with a focal lense at around 35mm and a zoom with around 16-50mm f2.8 or even better
Lot of people make a deal out of the lack of ibis. You're already gonna have a lens with some kind of ois, just get a gimbal
Is there an option to show the ISO number during any video shoot? Thank you!
So the canon R10 can’t shoot CLog
What is the best cine lens for the Canon R50 shooting real estate photos and videos?
Hi, thanks for sharing this video. Sigma 18-35mm (EF mount) would be a great option too. Would you compare R10 + (viltrox) focal reducer VS "old" eos R autofocus and high ISO noise level ? Regards
Hi Frederic.. viltrox focal reducer has its own issues.. With sigma, since it is an apsc lens, you cant use the 18-24 part of the zoom.. Also it does not let you go below f1.8 on any lens other than canon lenses.. Electronic stabilizer also fails when using focal reducer.. And it is already discontinued due to Canon's warning against Viltrox.. Also it is not cheap IMO.. I would invest on full frame better EF/RF glass instead because now or later you will probably upgrade to a real full frame.. :) Meike EF-RF adapter with drop in ND filter might be a good accessory if you are serious on filming with R10/R7...
@@thewatchloupe Hi, thanks for your message. If I didn't need autofocus in small camera body I would go for M6 markII. As focal reducer loses some native adapter informations I guess EOS R is still worth buying if you are looking for full frame depth of field with autofocus. For better High ISO performances and (even better?) autofocus, R6 mark II would be great but out of budget. Maybe in 4-5years... Cheers
Which lens did you use bro?
Will Cinestyle work on R50?
Do you use luts for your videos shot using cinestyle profile?
Try rf to ef adapter w/ nd filter with ef cine lens.
Please try R7 🙏
Considering this video, I wonder what are your thoughts on the more capable R7. Amazing content as usual!
It's a very capable camera. I am using it since 11 months along with sigma 18-35.
@@fairyteller5757 Hey, thank you so much for taking the time to write this. I really want to get that combo, actually but the S5ii made me consider it very seriously.
Hey Zach, for this video are you shooting in the normal 8 bit mode? Since the camera does have 10-bit footage but only in HDR mode interested in that too!!
Yep... shoot at HDR PQ and grade at Davinci Studio at rec 2100 color space... Export at rec709 and you will have way much better dynamic range.. Not a true log.. but almost a clog2 .. and you can use the Canon official bt2020 to bt709 converting lut for clog2 ... try it ..
Zach! Any suggestion to color grade Cinestyle in Davinci? I never had the best results with it. Thanks
you brought back nightmares to me with mentioning cinestyle , like it's 2016 , I either quit making vidoes or buy a camera with decent dynamic range , this cinestyle does not worth it in 2023.
Yup... CineStyle was never a flat profile. It never worked but It is so strange that still many TH-camrs are advising it. It was proved that it has nothing to do with being close to log. There is a PF editor and everyone can check what it is doing. It is actually raising the shadows AFTER Canon digic already wrote the matrix... So it is only doing what everyone can do at post production.. Super funny to still see it being discussed... However.. This R10 has HDR PQ mode and altough it is not a log profile... it is 10 bit and produces %50 larger files than standard mode with more color information in Rec2020 color space. And you can grade it in Davinci Studio... No more crazy blown out highlights .. Can't believe noone is still not talking about this .. Not enough.. I may consider starting a new YT channel about this :) .. R10 is great... Only concern is the rolling shutter but hey.. this is 800usd camera.. HDR PQ is almost clog 2... Try it..
@@thewatchloupethank you for your comment.
Thanks a lot!
Thankyou soo much
Because this video is funny because I have an R10 because have a really small channel - I clicked the button subscribe and the the notification bell 🙂
Laowa RF mount?
How do you get 4k 60 with r10? Doesn’t it only do 4k 30?
It has 40k 60 with a crop
@@keetchuupx419 okay found it thanks. I was in manual photo mode. I think that’s why I couldn’t find it. Had to go to manual video
Looks like the the R10 is an answer to your GH6 review!
We must save Ken!
Lumberjack had me creased
You always go all out 200% in every one of your videos, and your content is consistently awesome. Praying for your channel growth this year! Thanks for all the excellent infotainment
You’re a legend !
Bro. Love the fact it’s Nashville
@zachmayfield I can no longer find the cinestyle file from this website
How do you stabilize video with manual optics?
Gimbal
Uhhhh... why has TH-cam takin this long to show me this guy. Dude you need to be in front of the camera not behind it. The acting & writing is on point.
appreciate you homie!!
Such a great effort.
May be shoot some audience interaction videos which could increase the flow to your channel. 🤓👍🏼
As a Canon M50 user, we want to upgrade our skills. The R10 kit lens of sucks and it must have C-log. Without those it is never a great camera. 18-45 F4.5 (fastest)---- what is it?
Never a great camera? Says who? Great photos and video have been made on cameras for close to a 100 years.
Don't get trapped by specs and as far as aperture. Is your entire goal to shoot wide open or low light? It's a kit lens....its a good cheap entry level lens that suits a balanced range of scenarios. It's better you learn to shoot with this aperture than get again trapped by the myth that the only good photos have a blurry background.
If you have a Canon m50, this camera doesn't really help you upgrade your "skills". It's just giving you access to better feature set. But will those make your images/videos better? Not if you aren't good with understanding of the basics or even the capabilities.
@@getfmlrright lol
Ive been using an m50 with a speedbooster or just striaght up better glass to shoot weddings as a 3rd backup angle. Is it a cinema camera, hell no. It gets the job done if you know its limitations.
@@getfmlrmatter of fact im still rocking the EOS R 😅 in 1080p. Who cares 🤣
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Amazing editing and music...
and comment to grow the statistics.
r7 review is the next step for saving ken.
also try more consumer lenses like sigma ef 18 to 35 and budget friendly rf 16 f2.8 and the new55-210mm.
a friend from Greece
Greece? Do you happen to know of akp?
your are a good content creator bro
Great video! 🤓
What were the settings you used? The highest 4K? How did your Mac deal with your footage?
I've edited r10 footage on Davinci, it's pretty workable. It's nowhere near as difficult for a computer as footage off of a blackmagic
Great video
I wouldn't mind and besides there's no such thing as a flawless camera what camera doesn't? appreciate this video anyways
I’m so confused…. R10 and R50?!?! Similar size , price and features….
is this a 10bit camera?
I press x to doubt on the battery
R10 is so secret, that you can actually buy it at the store ;)
What are your thoughts on the R50?
Not one of the test footage looked cinematic.
"US B-Hole". My new word. "Port" is so yesterday
You look like JD Vance
I’m waiting for an m6 but with RF Mount and without viewfinder.. am i alone??? 😅
Fujifilm XH10 slaps the r10
Love the Fuji colors and the way they add extra stuff to their cameras... but.. Dual pixel AF is great and only rival is the Sony system.. Panasonic and Fuji need to invest more on AF..
Cool🎉
usb-hole
Bro… it is not working in windows
whoah! what is this ding dang icon next to my name in the comments?
Canon's secret pocket camera? Oh, please, get a life!
I’m about to sell my cam but after this video i figure out that i shouldn’t , thank you 🤍🤍🤍🤍