The NEW HD600!!
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- So... the new HD600. We look at the new frame and of course, check out the sound, once again.
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DankPods: The Huh Duh Six Hundgos
By ol' mate Senny
The judge.
Y ol mate senny
By Senn-
@@jacobler this is gold
They have acknowledged it, it's due to aging molds, and gave them a chance to offer a new mold with a slightly newer design.
Yeah I was going to suggest something similar to this. Even if the molds weren't wearing out if Romania isn't just doing assembly and the chassis is being built there, you aren't going to want to move all the molds and manufacturing tools over it would probably be cheaper to make new ones. Bonus being that it is a dated design and just squaring it off and going with a flat color makes it look much much more modern.
These new ones look boring, I prefer the old ones 🫤
HUH DUH SIX HUNGO'S BY OL' MATE SENNY
Or in one vid Ol' mate upsidedownie
@@aerodinamicaattiva1970 that was my fav vid from him. too bad the mic was bad in that one
another clown
Ah yes, the
*huh duh six hundgeos* by *s e n n*
S E N N
*by ol mate senny
@Dhanvin Kowlessur oh whoops didn't check the replies you beat me to it
I'm currently listening on my 20yr old HD600's, I still love em, all they've ever had are new pads all round. 👍
Same
Same here. I practically live in my 20yr-old HD600s... I've replaced the cable half a dozen times (HD650 cables are stronger), replaced the headband 4 times, and the earpads twice (due for a third time soon). If headphones get any better than these (with a decent amp), I'm not sure I even care to know - I'd happily use these forever.
@@JonnyTenebrous You seem like you have experience with the audio business. I'm torn between getting a pair of HD 598s or HD 6XX (which I heard are similar 600). I really enjoy the complexity of certain music and noticing every single piece of the song. I've never had any real experience with audiophile gear so I have no idea what to amplifier to pair them with.
@@keymind117 Well, I was studying music in university when I bought my HD600's all those years ago, though eventually went down a different career path - so I'm not in the audio business (just an enthusiast, who still mixes audio/music on occasion and enjoys critical listening!). I've owned several additional pairs of headphones since, for various uses, closed back vs open, etc... but I've not actually heard the HD 598s or HD 6XX. However, I've had a look and the HD 598's only have an impedance of 50 ohm (as opposed to 300 ohm for the HD600), which means you can drive them sufficiently through consumer audio equipment without an amplifier. This is similar to the HD 599's (which I bought for my wife), and honestly those sound great for listening to music... but they're not "neutral" like the HD600's so are less useful for mixing and very critical listening. Still - many people prefer a bit more bass and don't really want "reference" type headphones. The HD6XX is 300 ohm, just like the HD600, so it "requires" an amp to get the full benefit. However, between you and I, I don't absolutely always amp my HD600's... sometimes it's just inconvenient to use an amp. No, they don't sound nearly as good unamped, but they still sound really good compared to most (lesser/"consumer" class) headphones, imo. There's lots of amps out there, but lots of them don't push a 300 ohm load that well, so you'd have to do some research - I haven't been in the market for a long time, so don't know the current choices available. HD600 is so popular, you should have an easy time finding discussion of good amp choices to fit your budget. In my opinion, if you go for HD600's you should go the whole nine yards and source an amp. The HD6XX's look like a great deal that will offset the cost of adding an amp into the budget. Hope that was at all helpful ;).
@@JonnyTenebrous This was a super helpful reply! Still looking for a good amplifier, but I've decided to get both because they each offer a different sound profile and are relatively affordable.
Just the fact that you've purchased 4 pairs is the highest recommendation.
I just ordered 3rd one, they sound like music which is godly
The HD650 has always been known as superior to the HD600? I've never heard anyone say that it is. What I've heard a lot of people say is that they prefer the HD650 because its slightly warmer but not many argue that its objectively superior, in fact the opposite is true. The whole reason the HD600 still exists (unlike the HD650) and probably will for many, many years to come is how insanely popular it is in the professional world for mixing and mastering where neutrality & accurate tonality are by far the most important considerations. In that world the HD650 is considered objectively inferior. Also, its pretty common for those of us who use speakers & headphones only for music enjoyment to refer to headphones as mid-forward when in fact they are just neutral. I've heard this happens with studio monitors as well. The HD600 is objectively superior to the other HD6xx models because the only objective differences between them are the neutrality and the tonal accuracy. The other models are "funner" and preferred by most people who are using them for music enjoyment but the HD600 is very hard to beat at what it was built to do which is mixing & mastering.
@Wingnutt 1 I'm curious about what models you think are better for mastering these days. The world of high end headphones has exploded with hundreds of models that are quite good but when it comes to studio/professional equipment that is designed for high powered mixing boards rather than iPhones, and focused on neutrality and accuracy over all else, ... that world is still very much as it was 10 or 20 yrs ago and the HD600 is still one of the best there is for that audience IMO. I could be wrong. I use them for listening to music myself but they have been gathering dust for the last couple years because of their weak bass, until I put Dekoni Elite Velour pads (AKA Drop 6xx aftermarket pads) on them a few weeks ago which gives them the perfect amount (small but significant) of bass boost IMO. Now they are just about perfect for most music. Sort of the "best of both worlds" between the HD600 & 650/6xx.
I have both. I definitely consider the hd650 superior to the hd600.
At the end your final listeners only use crappy audio source from iphone and sh*t airpods
@Mike O'Horny Have you listened to both? Yes, the 600 could use a little bass boost to my ears. However, it is definitely the more neutral 'phone vs the 650 and exaggerated "veil."
diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-s-se/hd600-2/ hd600 are the best in the hd6-- bunch from a tonality point of view..but remember that tonality accuracy can be achieved also on bad tuned headphones using a normal equalizer (like apo)
Just got the HD 600 and I agree, the midrange is VERY smooth and “buttery,” as you put it. It may seem to lack bass, but I’ve always been a fan of Sennheiser’s understated bass, which is cleaner for me than others.
yeah its just people used to smth overly bassy prior to buying this
but just in case prepare smth like bass boost
I bought the HD600s because pretty much everyone was saying that they were THE headphones to compare all others to in terms of neutrality and tonal accuracy. I can't help but feel you've understated the importance of this line of headphones (HD580, HD600, HD650) within the hobby.
The 560s has taken that place
@@enzog1078 Highly doubt that with its 4K-6K bump, slight lack of midbass and not as smooth treble response.
@@87detto for the price? the headphone is insanely good. Easily the best headphone until you get to the hd600. The 600 is better, but more than twice the price.
@@enzog1078 Oh definitely! I paid only 125€ for the HD 560S. With some EQ it really is a nice headphone and awesome price.
Im getting 660s tomorrow wish me luck 😬🤯
I have the new version. It looks gorgeous! It is about 80% similar to my ER2SE with HD600 being a little darker and recessed. Both sound perfect to me.
Any other headphone that come closer to the sound of ER2SE?? Those etymotics are my favorite sound and I would love to find a headphone equivalet of it…
@@BrZi38501 use EQ and a headphone that doesn't have a mountain range on the treble (or anywhere).
Maybe they got tired of the kitchen counter top and/or wanted a style a bit more cohesive to the rest of the 600 family.
One of the reasons I chose the HD 600 was because I loved the marbled granite look. It looks nice, like a luxurious kitchen counter top.
Of course, it's not for everyone.
I think the marbled look is nice and I find them enjoyable with any style of music. The sound isn't flashy, it's just lovely.
@@Slavolko I don't think I noticed the granite finish until I pulled mine out of the box! These replaced my 580's that I had for decades that finally had enough of me. I like the granite finish! And I LOVE my 600's!!
@@rtlamb I love mine too. They go for insane prices these days, so I'm glad I got mine when I did. They're sturdy enough to handle me dropping them ocassionally, so I expect to keep them around for many more years. They run great.
I am with the other commenters. I dig the blue marble look. A few scratches and chips in it from being reckless with them, but they've held up so well and only recently had to change the ear cups after a fair amount of use. Hope the newer version holds up just as well.
Audiophiles must understand HD660s for clarity , imaging , seperation. HD650 for smoothness veiled sound and HD600 for neutrality. Thats it, all of them are great and have a purpose to fill same signature different taste.
@4:55
I'm pretty sure it's the opposite. There are more people who thinks the 600 is the superior headphone over the 650. Even Tyll recommended the 600 over the 650 more so. Thing is, there's a thing about the 600 being neutral, but at the same time not being too fatiguing nor analytical. It's why a lot of people say there's no true upgrade from the 600, it just really is.
The 650 has more low end extension and more detail in the highs, I prefer to use it for casual listening. But many audio engineers have noted that the 600 translates better to other systems, and as you mentioned, it is less fatiguing which helps when mixing late into the night when for whatever reason you can’t use speakers. It is an irreplaceable tool for many, myself included.
@Jacob 650 is veiled/muffled in comparison listen to some sound demos comparing the 2.
@Jacob 650 is measurably more midbassy and dark lol
@Jacob but hd600 already has a midbass tilt and rolled treble... What are you on about lol?
@Jacob I know what Harman is.
I mostly use studio monitors so when I want insane details I can have them. However on many songs i prefer the HD600 because they even make old recordings sound really good without actually losing details that are supposed to be there.
The only way I can explain it is that I fell the driver is very detailed in the midrange and looses some of that in the treble region, since most artifacts are there. This might also be the reason the HD600 doesn't have any sibilance problems without sounding dark.
In August of 2019 I have noticed that the speckled version became scarce. So fearing that the HD600 would be discontinued, I bought a second pair as a backup for my first pair which I had since 2000.
Still a wonderful headphone and I don’t think I will upgrade to something else until both pairs have to be replaced.
Nothing beats the HD600 for vocals!
they are the super cheap he90
Hehehe Ad2000 for female vocals :)
how about the Hd660s
The kitchen counter look was one of the reasons I originally looked into the HD600.
They let almost half the staff go at the Irish site and ended up with court orders due to lacking redundancy packages
They have moved a moderate amount of their production to Romania as well.
Silent revisions in the electronics industry often times get done when improvement in manufacturing allows the product to be made cheaper thus increasing profits. The HD600 has been around for so long that it doesn't make sense that they'd do this revision now, after 2 decades. You're probably right that this was probably a cost cutting measure. Not being made in Ireland but in Romania probably makes it cheaper to manufacturer. Taking out the speckle part of the manufacturing process would save money, probably not much per individual units but adds up over the entire production run. The lighter plastic is probably cheaper plastic. The only thing to worry about is if the new quality is as good as the old version. I like the older textured speckled look. I'm glad that I bought my replacement last year when my old one from more than a decade back finally started to give out, right driver started to go.
I don't agree on the part about a lot of people preferring the 650 over the 600. If that were the case and Sennheiser was losing sufficient amounts of 600 sales to the 650, the 600 wouldn't have been kept around for as long as it has and this silent revision wouldn't have been necessary. My guess is that the 650 was meant to replace the 600 but when sales didn't quite match expectation, they kept both around.
Pss the HD600 had many revisions.
The LCD 2C has had a silent revision too. There is a wire mesh underneath the grilles. Looks great
Yeah, and it's not shit. You know, like any Sennheiser.
@@ErgonomicChair "if i do not like it, it is shit" is a great way to seem like an arse.
Pretty sure they have that on all of their models
@@ErgonomicChair Actually even this HD600 easily beat the LCD2C in almost everything...
@@Sineseol thats definitely not true
Okay, 3 month update owning these puppies. These headphones... are very special. You forget you have them on. Your ears can breathe well (open back design) so they just kind of disappear. Music sounds very "analog" and like, rounded...
I can't describe them any other way than that, for me, they are very special. They aren't "fancy". They don't have a gimmick, and they aren't gimmicky at all. You feel like you're wearing something that was deigned for you to JUST LISTEN to the music, in a very focused and sincere way. No hype or weird stuff going on.
If these headphones were an element, you'd say they are like wood. Natural, robust, strong sound, clear. Makes you feel like you own something that was designed just to let you disappear into music, designed to make you forget you are wearing headphones. Just a beautiful, pure, organic sound. No regrets.
underrated comment
I still own and listen to my first generation Sennheiser HD-600's which I bought for $600 back in 1998. They still sound fantastic and the only thing I've done to them in 23 years is replace the ear pads, the headband pad and upgraded the stock cable to a better aftermarket one. Since 1998 I have added a pair of Beyerdynamic Tesla T1's and most recently a pair of Hifiman HE1000's to my stable. I can't say there is a great difference between my HD-600's and the Tesla T1's. The He1000's are a whole different story. They blow my Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic headphones clear out of the water!!! Still my HD-600's are a great little headphone and I believe, even in today's world of hi-end headphones, still have relevance. As far as the HD-600 to the HD-650 I've always preferred the HD-600. I think they will always have a place in the market because of their great original design. They wouldn't still be made 24 years later for no reason.
It’s the huh duh 6 hungeos by ol’ mate senni
The good old Huh Duh Six Hungeos by ol mate senny
I'm longtime user of HD650 and Today I received HD600 previous version made in Ireland. Used a couple of hours so in mint condition. I feel they are a bit more bright and very very little worse bass in comparision with HD650. For vocal, instruments, jazz, pop I would vote for HD600. For electro, techno, house HD650. Or in other way if you are fresh and reeady for more bright emotions choose HD600 if you are tired after work or need laidback listen to all kind of music choose HD650. Both are outstanding great. I have listen to many other Sennheiser, Sony, Hifiman and with good dac/amp HD600 & HD650 are my favourite. They produce pro sound not fancy/unnatural. The longer you listen to them, the more you appreciate them and not, as with others, that you find faults! Previous irish made wasvisually better in my opinion.
Wow, I actually love the new design. The old one is iconic, but I never liked it and this new simpler design is way cleaner
Bought my HD600 in 2000, at this time my first expensive audio gear expense (500 DM, yes that was pre Euro times). It became that legend of a headphone and the de facto reference gear for all headphones to be compared to later. Still use it daily, still proud to be an “early adaptor”.
Me too.
Damn reading your comment makes me feel like I hit the lottery. Amazon had a price error this afternoon and it lasted for 1 minute. I got it for $99 before they corrected it to $299. Hoping it ships!
@@youcrockyvence did it ship?
@@maxred371 Most likely. One dude found that same error and bought 3 of them for the price of one
Mate....josh has come such a long way in his audio journey and it shows with this hd600 review. Great stuff mate.
I have had the original HD600 for years. I'm glad they got rid of the bluish marble treatment. It chips away after years of use and makes the headphones look old.
Great, could you compare with the older model? Do they sound the same despite the different look? On the official website they tell "yes only the look is different,not anymore".Can you confirm?
"silent revision", also called a "facelift" in the car industry.
how about a refresh in cpu/gpu industry? 14nm++++++++?
Nobody asked
Completely false. A "facelift" in the automotive industry is considered to be an evolutionary design step. There is no such thing as a silent revision when it comes to cars; any bump in power; design and handling is heavily marketed.
Love how everyone's so quick to point out that they know better. A casual comparison works just fine. Tho in this case i think face-lift isn't quite appropriate since there's no obvious change in design like new grills or headband shape and all that. Also, bla bla bla forget what I just said Leviathan :)
@@Alby911 idk how people could even compare a facelift to a silent revision😂.. like the HD600 is not any design overhaul.
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You can always rely on the Huh Duh Six Hungos by *_s e n n_*
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This is the best way to listen to the tune "Walk Through the Park" by TrackTribe
hu duh six hunge'os by ol' mate Senny
650 is no better to 600, they are two sides of the same coin. 600 was build for studio neutral accuracy, 650 was tuned for warm pleasant sound, still senn didn't compromise on the design and they remain very detailed, just like their older brother. They are what Sennheiser is... and I hope to never see that duo gone from market.
I was trying to formulate a similar response, but you articulated it well enough that I'll just say ditto.
600 is more for studio reference use and 650 is more for consumer hifi use.
Sennheiser mostly doesnt outsource. They own the factory in Romania. They simply go for higher profits, lower wages, and possibly tax benefits, I think Ireland offered those tax benefits maaaany years ago. Maybe that has expired. I think their marketing office in Singapore is also a tax thing.
The HD600 is also much loved by those into classical music, or acoustic instruments.
Absolutely! As a classical musician, the open and transparent midrange is fantastic on the HD 600, and feels superior to the HD 6XX for acoustic music. The on downside being the weaker bass response. A beautiful headphone I don’t want to be without.
I'll still keep using my original 600s probably the most natural sound signature you can get!
Try the HD580 Precision if you get a chance, old one, not to be confused with the HD58x which is a totally different driver. I haven't A/B compared them but my HD580's are just incredible in their detail. They have been slightly upgraded over the years, to HD650 pads for earcups, HD600 pads for headband, HD650 cable and inlay foams, but no grill swap. The best part is they don't ever sound over analytical, but bad recordings sound terrible on them because they don't "smooth over" the sound in any way, what you hear is what the source gives.
@@noth606 This dude frankensteined himself a headphone lmao thats nutty
Bought a pair of HD600 back in 2006 and loved them but had to sell them when things got tight in 2008. Bought some AKG k701 a few years later and still have those. My primary use is mixing. I like the k701but I preferred the sound of the HD600. Think I'm going pick them up again after all this time.
Hurr durr six hungeos by ol' mate Senny
I have both 600 and 6xx and i love them both . They are amazing on tubes especially on Bottlehead Crack . I love hd600 with Bottlehead Crack more then my hifiman arya or any other headphone . Hd600 in my hrart FOREVER. Press F to pay respects to OG hd600.
The analogy to the film cameras and digital cameras is absolutely accurate to how it feels with the HD600 it is actually insane that you came up with that.
i LOVE the look of the new HD600, a big improvement pn the old model asthetically
phillip martin yeah me too, I have a pair of HD600s and while I have headphones and IEMS that sound better they have a certain charm to them and they present music in such an unique way
@phillip martin If they changed the drivers then they wouldn't be HD 600
yes!!!!
Well, it's much cheaper to manufacture it with raw plastic surfaces and the beautiful hinged box that it came with is gone too. That leaves us with a lot less for the same money! But hey if that's what you're into ; )
No, the OLD version is the supreme version and should never have been changed :(
This review is inaccurate, and I would not rely on it. I have the HD600 (2018), HD660s, and HD58x. Completely false statements in this video: HD600 being the HD650’s lesser version, response limited to midrange - the highs are exceptional and sound remarkably realistic compared to HD660s, the lack of soundstage - completely disagree - HD660s sounds in your ear, HD600 sounds airy and as if you are in the concert hall. All due respect for your work, time and efforts, but your interpretation of these headphones is misleading.
I wholeheartedly agree with you! What do love about your Sennheiser headphones?
I think this is the first review I've seen with that opinion. Doesn't jive at all with what I've seen anyone else say. And The 600 and 650 aren't competitive vs. the 6xx? The 6xx is the exact same headphone as the 650 but in a different color. Josh is way off with this one.
So long as I'm able to buy replacement factory pads and parts if need be I will keep my HD 600's forever.
Joshua you´ve simply become my favorite reviewer. Your reviews are straight to the point, simple and very useful when it comes to making the right purchase decision. Needless to say, your videos quality is top-notch and a joy to watch! Thanks for the wonderful work you do.
I do adore my HD600 but I primarily use them for mixing an mastering. They're comfortable, pleasing, and revealing. Pretty much everything I wanted from them
I have never had good headphones. Is there a reason people say they like them for mixing but not for enjoyment? Isnt the end goal of a good headphone to accurately recreate the live version? So clarity would be best for enjoyment? Also, not arguing, genuinely asking.
@@kurt7937 think of it like a color accurate display. It’s great for editing since it translates really well but it’s super flat to look at when you compare it to vibrant Samsung OLEDs and the like. Same with the headphones. Some are really meant for listening to certain frequencies and details, kinda like audio magnifying glasses, but listening to music with that much focus on certain frequencies can be exhausting. Listening headphones is all personal taste but you need some objectively neutral stuff for mixing or to really know your gear. Even my cIEMs suck for music listening but they give me all the clarity I need for being on stage
Treat yourself, Kurt.
Like you, I had never owned decent headphones, then I bought the HD600 a few days ago after comparing them against the HD660S2 in a headphone shop. Plugged into my Marantz integrated amp at home, the HD600 sounds great.
I should’ve bought these headphones years ago.
@@MaxFromSydney1 You had a $2000 amp but no cans? Haha. I just bought them yesterday, they should arrive soon. :) The best headphones I’ve had prior to this was some bass bloated mainstream garbage, akin to beats, and I’m well past listening to bass-y music. I just need an amp and dac then I’m good. Have you tried any tube amps, Max?
Watched while listening from my 6XX's. These are my current endgame, for now...
I prefer the old shiny marble look that has better quality plastic. Even worse now the've made all HD6 look the same, including 650 no longer gunmetal look that it always had and was famous for. Sennheiser is going cheapo these days and it all started with MassDrop 6XX and then 58X having significantly lower built quality.
mike so you can tell the quality of plastic just by looking at it... Great, maybe you can be employed at a chemical factory..
first person who review the new HD600
Am I? Cool!
@@JoshuaValour yes. So sound is the same ?
@@JoshuaValour is the sound the Same as mk1?
Joshua Valour how do they compare sonically with the older 600’s? Only a cosmetic difference?
My HD660s bought 3 months ago were also made in Romania. There was a supply shortage here in Europe during early fall and when the new batch came it was made in Romania. Not sure were the previous batch was made. I consider these as well as the 600 as headphones worth more than they are selling for if you value tone neutrality and you are not a basshead. They are not made to impress. In terms of built quality the proof of the pudding is in the eating. They last through decades of abuse even though perceived built quality seems low. Form should follow function not the other way around. PS Just to be clear about it. I would buy again the 660s even if they were Euro 1k rather than 369 including 24% VAT which I paid.
Great video and knowing the headphones you talked about I know you perfectly described the differences. Being a pro photographer who returned to film photography I appreciated very much you comparison of the HD600 to a movie recorded on film. The HD660s on a photography film comparison would be a Fuji Neopan: great contrast, great resolution, great emulsion stability, no problems pushing or pulling the exposure. The HD600 are like a film that hasn't all those great qualities but has that smootness, that fine tonal passages that the other film misses like a (now unicorn) Agfa Scala 200 iso positive film. Thank you for sharing.
I have an HD600 back from 2003. I've tried many headphones in past years, but I still prefer and absolutely amazed by old HD600's sound. I listen it every day satisfied. For me, this is the best sound that I want to hear from music, movies and games. But I want to buy another HD600, but I worry that the new one is not as good as the old one. My question is: compared to the old (black - blue version), has new HD600 exactly the same sound and comfort feeling? For me the old HD600 is not only the best sounding headphone, but its extremely comfortable as well, what is also a very important aspect for me.
Its just as Good
The 'speckled plastic' is carbon fibre coating.
If you have an original HD600, hang on to it.
No, it isn't. Carbon fibre looks nothing like that.
I have had this for 10 years and it still sounds amazing
cant say much abt this, kind of 64 situation
I’ll just call them huh duh 6 hundos by ol m8 senny because I’m a dankpods fan
The HD600 are my favorite headphones, I would cry if anything happened to them. I'm a sucker for mid range, one of the best mid ranges I've heard on a headphone, I love listening to them, they never offend.
Can they read 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound ?
@@wider7998 any headphone, speaker, that's 2.1 can play 5.1 or 7.1 audio. But you're obviously not going to experience 5.1 channel audio, all channels will be played through two speakers , you may notice a difference. when I watched a movie that's 5.1 on a 2 channel system, I did notice a little echo with the voices. Most people probably won't notice that it sounds a little off.
Gilbert Mathieu ok, thank you a lot.
ahh the classic hurr durr sixhungeos
We should do a live stream on the headphone show! I’m helping Resolve as an extra person to bounce comments and questions off of. Also, digging on the purple accent light!
HD600 is super amp dependent. When you power the 300 ohms correctly, nothing beats the HD600.
Honestly they sound great straight out of my tablet
I just bought a set of HD600 and HD650 to compare. I ended up returning the HD600 because it had less bass response and the sound stage was much narrower than the HD650s (which are in turn narrower than my DT990 Premiums).
I don't think it was mentioned in the video but the Romania HD600's do not come with the nice heavy foam box. They just come in a cheap cardboard package.
The 600's are awesome with vintage receivers. My 600's have NONE of the problems I read about on my 70's Yamaha receiver (220ohm impedance jack). The soundstage is perfect (almost too wide with my AKG's) and the bass is powerful and deep. I tried the 6XX on the same receiver and the bass almost knocked me out of my chair. It was way beyond the pale too much. Everything I've read about the 650's vs 600's leads me to believe that the 600's benefit from a more powerful amp and the 650's MIGHT sound better on more budget oriented gear. (Yes, I'm sure there are some who love the sound of their 650's with any type of gear)
Yeah, my pair of these have just arrived. First impressions are that these headphones are truly different to other headphones.
Maybe the difference isn't overly pronounced but you don't need the most sensitive ears to tell the difference.
It's what I think people are referring to when they mention the Sennheiser sound.
They sound incredibly flat but also incredibly musical, not lifeless.
It won't make bad stuff sound good, but if it's sounds good it will sound good. It shows either way.
Very comfortable too. It feels possible that you could totally forget you have them on.
Just first impressions. We'll see as time goes on.
I got my hd 600 3 mos. ago too. I bought mine through sennheiser’s website (it was sold out in amazon, or sold more than $400). My set came with the hd650 pads. Did your come with that too?
UPDATE: The entire 600 series is being manufactured in Ireland again.
i prefer the original look; everything is going for the modern futuristic matte black/grey look which on lower priced things -it's to be expected, but not on classic quality items.
>58x and 6xx means the 600 is irrelevant
Nah
Also, a lot of the world exists outside of America. If you aren't in America Drop is rarely a good deal. I'm in Canada I got a pair of the new HD 600s for $400 CAD which is around $303 USD at time of writing. I just drove to my local music store, bought em, and I was back home within the hour having a great time with them.
Importing a 6xx from Drop would have cost me a lot more than that in duties + shipping + brokerage fees incurred by DHL - not to mention the less than favourable exchange rate all Canadian banks charge. All for around 3 weeks of waiting.
@@Weaver_Games I can get it for $340 AUD which is like $325 CAD
I'm wearing these exact headphones while watching this video. Nice.
Btw if anyone's curious I own a lot of headphones and the HD600 is my favorite.
What is it about them that you prefer over the others?
same here I own hd58x hd650 and hd600 among other brands such as akg and beyerdynamic and my hd600 are my to go to headphones
I have owned over 30 different high-end headphones, and I keep going back to the timeless classic HD600/HD580 headphone every time after my new toy syndrome has settled. there's something which just sounds so right about them. that it makes listening to other headphones end up as a short experiment phase. and truth be told most of these new hifi headphone manufactures got their inspiration from that headphone. its the headphone they compare headphones to
Has anyone personally listened/own/owned both the old version and new version and can tell me do sound any different at all? Looking at purchasing a pair but worried buying the newer version is different?
I just got my HD 600s today, which is 10/15/2023 (15/10/2023 for the UK people) and it's a pretty big step forward from my AKG K240s that have been pad swapped. Also running them through an FX-Audio DAC-X6 with a Sparkos Labs op amp. And my HD 600s are made in Ireland as well.
As other have said, it's weird he didn't mention just how popular these are with audio engineers, specifically for their accuracy and "forwardness" in the mids. They're pretty much the headphone equivalent of NS10 studio monitors. You can confidently mix vocals and pretty much every acoustic instrument on these and get pretty accurate results. The same cannot be said of the 650/660/6xx, they're just not as useful as a studio monitoring headphone, but I guess you can mix anywhere if you know your gear well enough.
It’s pretty much par for the course for headphone TH-camrs to not really consider headphones from a profuctjon standpoint. Side note, it’s always made me laugh how bad some TH-camrs mic technique/sound quality is considering how much time they spend listening to audio. You’d think they’d hear the occasional clipping, know where to put their mics for the best sound, or learn how to remove background noise 😂
This was my first Audiophile headphone with a schiit stack. Love the headphone for music but the sound stage has left a little to be desired for gaming. Just picked up a pair of the 560s for gaming and both are incredible headphones. Really thinking of saving my pennies for the HD800s to complete my collection. Then need to venture out of senn I think 😂😂
Hey at least it's still made in Europe.
Let me fix the title: The NEW huh duh six-hungoes by old mate senn
Well, I just ordered mine right now. I got My first tube amp, a WA6-se and came to this review specially for the tube part. :D
The iFi Zen has an INCREDIBLE bass boost function. That and the insanely good volume knob alone are worth the price of that unit. But I can't justify any Sennheiser 600 series with the existence of the 58x and 6xx, they need to adjust the price down to 250-300.
Might buy it at $200... feel the same about the R70X.
definitely search on hifishark/ebay, I found my pair for $220.
The huh duh six hungeos by all senny
Sennheizer marketing department: ok how do we describe the sound of these headphones?
*everyone looks towards the end of the room*
Joshua: D e l i c i o u s
Sennheiser*
This is only one Sennheiser that is the HD600 :)
I got the 6XX recently but I am not impressed, I really do not like the very claustrophobic soundstage and I don't get the fuss around the mid-range.
I don't know, it sounds ok but I would not have payed more than the 125€ I payed for it.
I just received the DT1990 a few hours ago and... now we're talking!
Well of course the DT1990 is twice the price and twice the headphone in almost every way.
Valentin D You’d hate the 600 then, its soundstage is even less than the 6xx/650. I’ve come to actually prefer better imaging rather than soundstage. It’s all personal preference.
@@matthewhilty4209 it's only about a 100$ more if you compare it to the HD650, at least in my country. But I guess it's all about preferences, you might want that intimate sound.
@@mikeyhope7577 I also have been disappointed by the imaging, the imaging on my Argons are better than on my 6XX (but hey , maybe my 6XX has a problem)
For me, another 10 dollars marsk another territory, but for some a 100 doesn't make a difference.
Not sure what wrong I'm doing with my life.
I have had the HD650 for over a decade. This revision gives me an excuse to finally pull the trigger on a HD600 as well! Looking forward to comparing the two myself, finally.
And? :)
I just bought the HD599 from Amazon $157.00 new Amazing sound the mids and highs are great !
hurr durr six hundos by old mate senny!
The blue molds made it look like marble... more high end. When it released in the 90s, it was the high-end. So I can see why they don't really care if they switch to boring black to save money or use new molds.
pretty sure the plush has been upgraded to the new 660s style that doesn't crush large ears
I disagree about the 58x being better value. I have both and think the 600 is miles ahead of the 58x and didn’t cost me too much more
Josh, I own the HD600 in all of it's 90's flavor and my pair is the second purchase. My first pair somehow wound up in the dishwasher shortly after I purchased them back in the day. I was working a second shift job and my son was beginning to get moving around quickly and I don't think my wife noticed. Well it didn't work out so well! I love these headphones and I use them along with an inexpensive Chinese built tube amplifier and an Emotiva DAC. I am very much please with the set-up even if not super high end. I have upgraded my tubes and the combination is really nice, plenty powerful and delivers enough bass extension to please my ears. And believe it or not, there are times when I am fooled by sounds which do in fact seem to come from outside of the ear cups and force me to replay a part of the music once again in order to see if it repeats. It always does. I try to take care of my gear and have never worried about build quality. I have heard the 650 and I liked them but I had borred them and didn't feel a desire to purchase a similar pair of cans. To each his/her own I guess.
Only 8 months in and the left driver started to crackle on kick drums....
The sound on this content video is so good. From the intro music to your voice, so clear and full. What’s the secret??
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All German and Austrian companies are moving the production to APAC, Romania, Poland, and so... because of the cheaper labor force. But the reason all new products aren't as they used to be, is not the country where they are produced. It is all because: cost reduction,... more profit. If we can produce Meze 99 classics in Romania, for sure we can also made some sens :). They are produced as the company wants,... cheap :)
I modded my original hd600 be taking the outer foam and removed the spider cage. The foam on the inside i removed. Covered the exposed driver with a piece of pantyhose. For me these now sound much better. They have opened up in sound. And bassresponse is better. With these drivers getting more air they are opened up and can breathe better. And soundstage is more open and imaging is good. For my ears this is a good mod that benefits overall sound .
Well the 600 paired with a proper tube amp can make someone really feel and connect with the music vs the other Senn variants.
I suspect why the revision now is because there are more younger crowds getting into the audiophile hobby and this refreshed 600 color will market and sell very well vs the original granite countertop color that was released in the 90's.
They upgraded the moulds so that's why the plastic parts are different - I like the new refresh more than the old (I have HD 660 S new version, HD 6XX and HD 58X Jubilee). I really like how the new HD 600 looks minus, the cable and head band cushion but those are easily changeable.
I actually went and bought HD 600 capsules (which I'll receive soon) for my HD 58X as a little experiment - no idea how it's going to work out but fingers crossed that they are a good matching pairs. I find my HD 660 S really dark and not as natural sounding as my HD 6XX or even HD 58X in terms of frequency response. I expected it to be very similar to HD 58X but that's not the case. HD 6XX is brighter (but non-sibilant) and mids have much better clarity and presence. In HD 660 S case the dips right before sibilant range kinda ruins the whole thing. For that reason I don't really enjoy listening to it. HD 6XX just sound better to me. Interesting to see how my "HD 580 Jubilee" will sound like. :D
Tup3x Are you sure your 660S isn’t defective? Dark is not the word I would use to describe them. 6XX would be closer to dark even though they are not. But we all hear different. The curve of your auditory system could be drastically different from mine and many others. Have you heard a Beyerdynamic DT 990?
@@Assimilator702 I can't be certain. Compared to my "HD 600" (got the drivers yesterday) for example it feels like there's a pillows between the driver and your ear. The difference is rather drastic.
@@Tup3x Interesting. Maybe Sennheiser is implementing more revisions than we think. There could also be a change to the pads possibly?
@@Assimilator702 Pads can make some differences but not this large. They are pretty similar to replacement pads I use my "HD 600". The ones that came with HD 58X were much flatter and not as comfortable. Not sure if it's just normal variance or something else. Sound didn't change though after I swapped them.
I don't remember HD 660 S having this dark upper midrange when I tried it previously. That being said, I can't trust my ear memory.
Excellent video, I auditioned both the old design & the new design of the HD600 (the new design is fractionally more comfortable in my opinion but it doesn’t come with the presentation box) they both sound so similar that I couldn’t perceive any difference. I auditioned them alongside the HD660s which I preferred as it gave slightly more definition in instruments and tighter bass (in my opinion)... other ears may come to different conclusions. I’m using them with a JDS LABS atom headphone amp & a topping D50S DAC. Would you be so kind as to let me know where you buy the headphone cables for the hd600/660s from please🤔
I got a pair of these, and wow, the build quality of the new HD600s feel comparable to a pair of $20 headphones. The plastic feels very cheap and hollow. The sound is good though, and the new plastic does make it pretty light at least compared to my HE-4XX's.
visually I prefer the old model
Thanks, Josh. Interesting vid. My 600s are pushing 20 years, if not older. So old, the foam is gone, and I mean you wouldn't even know there had been foam there. IIRC, they cost a lot more than $299 20 years ago. I will say, I'm not a 'headphone guy.' But, I can see the day coming soon where that will be my reality. Were I to buy new cans in the near term, and thinking long-term, I'd aim a lot higher than these 'phones, and add in the cost of a great amp for a total rig. Headphone tech has come so far in the past few years--if that's the way you listen most of the time, you could toss some serious coin in that direction and have a killer system--while saving on real power components and loudspeakers. Keep up the good work, always interesting.
You should know that you can replace those foam pads and the headband pad easily by going to the Senn site and ordering the parts.
Josh, love your reviews man, but Jesus Christ you got this wrong. Sennheiser owns the manufacturing, so whatever mould and materials they used in Ireland they could have used in Romania. On head-fi the consensus is that the new model avoids paint chipping, is a more modern design, and at least as durable ad the old model. If only you would have informed yourself a bit before this review... honestly I would remove this video. It's just not up to your standard and embarassing in saying "the new manufacturer couldn't do the old design".
To be fair, he stated several times that it is "speculation". However, the reasons you listed make good sense as to why Sennheiser made the change.
Thanks for this video! I'm considering purchasing a pair of these and this was really informative.
I would probably call it an update or a refresh. It has more of a modern design. I don't think it's because of factory or cost saving. They know they'll sell a ton of em already.