You know, I watched a billion reviews of the HD600s before I finally bought them. I saw this one as I was waiting for them to arrive, and it actually did by far the best job of making me feel like I made the right decision. Your honesty about your lack of knowldge in this area combined with your clear excitement about them made me realize, sometimes, it's simply better to leave the experts behind and remember we're all just humans that like what we like. And if one headphone or another is better, these still kick ass. Happy to report I love them!
Man this "Normal perspective" are things I always wanted to know about these expensive headphones. Like, I've heard about Open-backs, but I always wanted to see how it sounds for people around you to get an idea of much sound it actually bleeds out. Thank you for these unique informations!! Great review! Also just a small tip, I don't know if it was just me but I found myself constantly changing the volume because between the transitions where you make the music louder, it's way too loud compared to your voice. I was constantly increasing and decreasing the volume, not because the music is bad, just way too loud compared to your voice.
Out of all the headphone I ever tried the hd600 sounds the best. I got the hifiman sundara, wh1000xm3 , kph30i. And I would dare to say that the koss kph30i is the best 30$ headphone to exist. Both the hd600 and kph30i are tuned to the neutral target. Clearly the kph30i is a hd600 but less detailed and clear but still a solid experience. I swapped many time between them and even when I got the hd600 ,I often grabbed the kph30i when going outside. Best part is that the hd600 and kph30i sound just fine on a smartphone dac. No need of an external amp/dac Respect your ears and get the kph30i if you are on a budget but still want a sound that Respect you
I also have these and other Headphones, to me HD660s are the best and 600 . For the price 30i are just amazing and way better than most other way more expensive. Sundara are also great but sound fake metallic compared to 660 ,600.
I was looking for a video comparing these to "normie" headphones & im glad I found it. I know these are in a completely different league but when you have no point of reference as someone considering them its hard to make a choice.
If your source is on the phone or home with low quality sounds don't expect great sound. Your going to need real records or high bitrate streaming to get any real world benefits from high end headphones. Mainstream headphones have tuned/profiles enhance to give us sound that don't break the bank. Audiophiles need to be honest in reviews.
What you told as "soundstage" is actually "imaging" Imaging : The headphone gives you an idea where each and every instrument is placed in the room while recording Soundstage : How far away the sound is coming from. If its intimate soundstage, it would feel like the instrument is near your ear. If its wide soundstage, it would sound like the sound if coming 4 meter to your right.
Myself (an audiophile) and essentially every audiophile friend and reviewer I've seen disagree with you. Soundstaging is the realism of sound placement, while the width is literally just referred to as width. When audiophiles say imaging, they are referring to the movement of sounds from left to right.
I love this! When watching reviews, especially about sth as personal as sound, I like to discover the topic from as many perspectives as possible and this video offers a really honest and relatable perspective. Thanksss
3:40 quick note plese...PLEASEEEE do not use impedence as a info on whether a headphone need amp or not...PLEASE look at sensitivity /mw instead as it more accurate on how loud the headphone can push at similar power output for example my he400se and akg k371 both have similar impedence but i wouldnt run he400se off mother board or phone dac..why? because the thing is pretty unsensitive similar story as my blessing 2 and kato...1 need a bit of volume while other can blow your ear if you push it a bit ..so why do manufacturer include them? because impedence swing (when 2 have drastically different impedence..ie your source to your headphone of choise) it can changes your frequency responce (changes in the frequency impedence curve)
"Audiophile" can be a loaded and alienating term. The HD600 are for everyone that wants better than just average sound. They need not be the foo-foo pinky in the air type. They can be someone that enjoys the higher performance the HD600's offer vs ear buds.
i also have a btr5 2021, i run hd600s through the balanced output, it’s way stronger, also has two audio processors instead of one for the regular unbalanced 3.5 mm
I had my btr5 for about let's say half to less than a year. it was so cool and did its job but, one day as I was adjusting the custom equalizer through the official Fiio app, the dac became unresponsive and bricked itself. there is a chance I can bring it back to life but I would need a computer and need to find the firmware/software thingy for a chance to bring it back to life. so in conclusion, don't use fiio's crappy app because it might just ruin your btr5 and maybe other fiio devices. but that's just my experience so do what you will
I like bass, but I remaster stuff myself. It's time-consuming, but I can make quiet songs louder, weak bass stronger, cold songs warmer (reverb, saturation, eq), over-compressed songs less mids (mids are ear-piercing when studios just smash the limiter all lazy-like), etc.
Big Or small soundstage is not a con . Its what u prefer and what music listen. Big soundstage on songs with vocals sound worst than close to u . Movies and orchestra on the other hand sounds better on big soundstage.
@@jasonjansen9831 honestly everything that has to do with music i only use HD600 and 660s , For games i sold everything and use koss kc75 15 euro headphone lol , About movies i use in ear Beyerdynamic soul byrd 90 euro iem that has huge soundstage and a bit boosted bass. I have make the headphones journey and ut was great all these Hifimans Focals BW BO yeah some of them was amazing on something but lose on something else. Sometimes simplier is better and HD600 for music for light weight comfort price easy to find parts and most of all they last forever and uts easy to sell them. Its the Toyota of headphones .
@@Tripokaridos22 HD600 represent music so naturally. Like the players are in the room with you and nothing is hyped up. Too wide soundstage makes music sound artificial to me.
The singular fact that your previous best quality audio was Airpods pro, makes this review worth quite a lot for me! For me, the best audio exeperience is also airpods, and so your opinion, while of course not an audiophile, has value *because* you're not an audiophile- like me, with the same prior experience. I just bought a DAC/AMP and am likely about to buy these, a choice helped to (probably) finalize on the HD600s. Also, 6:36 - sums up quite a lot when trying to learn things!
I really enjoyed the video and hope you can make more but I have seen some negative comments on this video and just wanted to say you did a amazing job and you have some reply good potential with this channel and I can see you getting millions of subscribers if you put in the work❤
HD 600 Pros : - Very clear and detailed, it feels snappy. - Neutral sound which is why many like this. - Vocal is clear and forward. Cons: - Bass is not impactful as you find in a lots of review. - Soundstage feels definitely narrow and restricted, I could confirm this after hours of usage. - Not as enjoyable for a casual/normal user. That laid back and smoothness is missing. HD 6xx Pros: - Much better based and sounds fuller. - Soundstage is definitely better. - Very smooth and laid back tune that could be used for hours without fatigue. - Vocals are darker and recessed, if you like that. Cons: - Not as clear or detailed as you may feel when compared with HD 650 - Not neutral sound signature as HD 650 As my HD 6xx got damaged I ordered HD 600 after so many wonderful recommendations online but in short it is not as enjoyable and non-fatiguing . So will try now HD 660s or something which is more enjoyable and return HD 600. Considering enjoyability aspect in mind might be Sennheiser sound engineers tuning the subsequent versions of 600 series (650, 660s, 660s2 etc.) - Kudos to them for these wonderful Open-backs.
HD600 is irreplaceable. There is nothing else in the world that sounds like them. Maybe Etymotic in-ears but essentially they're one of a kind, vocal-centric, heavenly experience.
Thanks for this review! As an non-audiophile. I came the same conclusion after hours of reviews from Resolve, Joshua and Crin. Bought my HD600, but need an amp to push the sound and volume a little over....
“Honky” refers to when the upper mids seem too pronounced and therefore sounding uncomfortable and exaggerated, everyones ears are difference however and pinna response isnt the same for everyone
I own a pair of AKG K-612 Pro's and I can confirm that those kinds of earpads can make your head itch enough for it to be annoying. The issue has however gone away after a couple weeks of usage probably due to wear and sweat. They sit just fine and really comfy now.
Sennheiser HD600 have very little bass,but you can EQ them a little whit a free software "APO" and "Peace" and you can get more low end bass out of the HD600 ;)
Just a heads up, the BTR5 is only rated for up to 150 ohms. While you can run HD600’s out of a BTR5, you’re really pushing the limits of the poor thing. HD600’s have a 300 ohm impedance. I really recommend getting something like an audient id4 (it’s a DAC that has a built in amp that can run headphones up to 300 ohms no problem) or a separate DAC/AMP. You could also go the cheaper route and just get a replacement cable that terminates in a 2.5mm balanced over the standard 3.5mm. The BTR5 has 2 DAC’s in it, but they’re only both used if you’re using the balanced out. Balanced out on the BTR5 is something crazy; like 270mW of power. That should be enough to comfortably run HD600’s.
Greetings from Toronto ☕️☕️ Love my Sen’s 650’s on TUBES . The detail ,warmth, and soundstage are highlighted in that they bring out the best that the design has to offer.😋
Ok no beats are better than the airpods but maybe to your ears they sound better I can't dismiss that, everybody's ears are different and pick up sound different as a result With the soundstage part, the hd600 are very intimate but the imaging ie the precision of where sounds are coming from within the stage maybe gives the illusion of a wide stage
I like the video, just some tips 1. Lighter transition/ background music. 2. Clip on rode mice for less echo 3. Slow down just a tiny bit. You’re going through your points so fast i dont get to take them into consideration
I like that I can wear them with my glasses on without them hurting. I have another couple of headphones that sound good; beyerdynamic DT 880 Pros at 250 ohms, which I run from my pedal board when I'm practicing guitar or bass at night, and beyerdynamic 1990 Pros at 250 ohms that I use for critical listening when I need to shut out sound. However, the I cannot wear the 1990s with my glasses on. the 880s are fine and sound excellent, the 1990 sound good, but I need my glasses off. this isn't usually a big deal, but when I want to read 10 point type on my iMac, I need the glasses. I run the 500s (which are 300 ohms) and 1990s through a separate DAC and headphone output. I use the DAC in my pedalboard when I practice, and it isn't as good, it sometimes gets some jitter. I usually use the 600s because they sound good, are lightweight, and are comfortable. The 880s sound really good, but I don't want to spend a lot of time switching headphones from my DAC to the pedalboard. The 88os are ported, so they have some sound leakage, but not much.They do have good imaging; I can hear sounds that appear to be behind me. I use the 1990s if I need to block sound bleed. I bought a shielded extension cable that I use with my 600s, so I have enough cord length. My 1990s only have a regular plug, so I can't use them with my small shielded cable jack. They still sound good. I don't consider myself an audiophile, but I know sound I like and I don't like.
add a Schitt magni or vali with the Schitt modi dac... and you will be amazed how good they sound! (only works if you are listening at your desktop). cheers!
@@coloradoing9172 thanks so much mate, that's what I'm leaning towards as the 560s are a great headphone, or maybe the ifi hip dac 2, but my gut feeling is the topping
just a note: make sure adjustments are identical on both sides or else channel balance will get affected. Also btr5 is massively holding them back. I'll highly recommend Questyle M15 with a balanced cable on the affordable side. Best if you can pair them with a OTL and dac combo. Feliks echo mk2 + rme adi 2 for example
@AHMED SHAFIUL i have HD600 + BTR5, i am 46 yo, i use it with a volume set to 40 of 60 (low gain, single ended 3,5mm jack) and sound is great and loud. BTR5 has enough power to drive HD600 unless You want to be deaf as a post (very soon). At full volume ( BTR5 ) HD600 produces about 101dB (single ended 3,5mm jack) and about 106 dB (balanced 2,5mm jack). pneumatic hammer is about 100dB loud.
OTLs are distortion generators and anything more expensive than a clean usbc dongle (9$ for apples offering) is a waste of money 99% of the time, since a headphone rarely needs more than 1 Vrms to reach adequate peak volume for highly dynamic music.
Yeah I know you can do that, but two reasons why no: 1) I don’t want to break the cable from being folded over and 2) when I’m sitting at my desk, having the cable be super long is actually quite nice
@@aaronthetechguy Well sure it would be best to have two cables, I just bought the headphones and I rolled the cable around my hand and put some zipties on it. From previous experience, I don't think it will affect it in any negative way, but then again who knows.
You could buy the 6xx which is the same thing but 250 or the hd58x’s which are 200-170 depending on if They are on sale and they sound similar but hold in more bass
I believe it’s the opposite. I think that the hd6xx are based off the hd650s, which have more bass, while the hd58x are based on the hd600s. I’ve heard they’re both a great buy though
@@aaronthetechguy The 58x use a completely different driver than the 6 familly, they are supposedly more of a cheap 660s but it has a hd700 driver. The 58x technically is somewhat a cross of the 5 and 6 familly of sens. The housing of it being obviously the same visually but cheaper plastic and a unique 150ohm driver only 58x usess with a sound signature tuned to be more of a 6 series headphone. It's arguable if the 58x belongs next to the 6 ones but it's mighty fine for the price.
if you want portable good audio then just get IEMs, if not there are some steadily really good TWS earbuds coming out like the new galaxy buds pro 2. But for wireless headphones not so much.
If you want an out and about headphone thats closed back and wont break the bank a little more bass and subbass but still clear try the DT770 Pros either as 80ohm or 250ohm as you have the btr5 you wont regret it at all
those sing with more power. i dont think your BTR5 is enough. but looking at the BTR5 specs they have more power via the balanced connector. get yourself a balanced cable.
Yeah I’d love to try the balanced out, but it’s currently out of my budget because those cables are just so expensive. According to dankpods the btr5 is more than enough to power it.
What about for listening to Techno for like 5+hrs. non-stop or several hours off and on throughout the entire day? Is the bass response good like 990 Pro or 900 Pro X or even the MDR-7506? Can i wear them with my eyeglasses for hours in comfort, or will they hurt?
I personally find the bass response quite pleasing because you can hear all the bass without it shaking your head or distorting the music. I can’t compare it to any of those other headphones as I’ve never tried them before. I’ve also never worn them with glasses so I can’t speak to that.
Can someone help me with an answer that can determine me in purchasing the Sennheiser HD 600: Can I drive them directly from headphone output of a dedicated sound card from my PC? (in my case M-Audio Revolution 5.1) Thank you.
@@mistersurrealistnowhere near this best it's still leagues above what most people are using.. and that's an exaggeration. They get better with really good amplification but the foundation if you plugged it into an iPod is solidly there.
Hd 600 are extremely unengaging with stuff like btr5. Its a shame that people have not heard hd 600/650 in their full glory. An otl is a must with them
Stop spreading myths, my man. All an OTL does is add distortion and a tad bit of bass. If you want bass, just use EQ, which btw is free on windows and then you will have better sound without any distortion.
@@soulfulfool An amplifier only makes the sound louder regardless of its price. You are mixing it up with a DAC which is responsible for better details.
@@soulfulfoolI make tube amps, and that he's said is true. I don't bother to use them myself beyond as an oddity. The only time they're really useful is for electrostatic drivers.
from cheap to high end sound. If your using streaming for music with avg bitrate stick to mainstream headsets or earbuds. The sound is only as good as your source. most people aren't paying for high bitrate audio for every single track or albums. Most audiophile barely speak on the "Source" of audio you need. Be Honest with viewers on what comes in the territory chasing the dragon of high end sound.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about and haven't actually done the comparison. Even half decent bitrates of codecs these days are neigh inaudible compared to lossless. The headphones are where it all matters and very little else does. If I plug my headphones into an AM radio, even that will sound a hell of a lot better than shit speakers.
dud you need at least Fiio Q11 with balanced cable to power hd600 or new Fiio KA15 with balanced cable, Q11 with balanced output is like 5 times more power than BTR5.............lol......your video is not even funny, hello????????? you are not hearing HD600 through BTR5, you are hearing just noise...................please educate yourself on power and impedance and sensitivity................lol
I love your obsessionw ith FiiO shit. I bet you only look at audio graphs on ASR instead of actually listening to the damn things. Also balanced output does jack shit for quality.
You know, I watched a billion reviews of the HD600s before I finally bought them. I saw this one as I was waiting for them to arrive, and it actually did by far the best job of making me feel like I made the right decision. Your honesty about your lack of knowldge in this area combined with your clear excitement about them made me realize, sometimes, it's simply better to leave the experts behind and remember we're all just humans that like what we like. And if one headphone or another is better, these still kick ass. Happy to report I love them!
Literally in the same situation
You using a DAC/AMP combo? Am considering getting them but I'm not sure it's worth the extra money
@@beckxter4267 Get the FiiO K5 Pro and be done with it. It's a pretty sweet DAC/AMP that will have tons of power to drive the HD600s properly.
Man this "Normal perspective" are things I always wanted to know about these expensive headphones. Like, I've heard about Open-backs, but I always wanted to see how it sounds for people around you to get an idea of much sound it actually bleeds out. Thank you for these unique informations!! Great review!
Also just a small tip, I don't know if it was just me but I found myself constantly changing the volume because between the transitions where you make the music louder, it's way too loud compared to your voice. I was constantly increasing and decreasing the volume, not because the music is bad, just way too loud compared to your voice.
Out of all the headphone I ever tried the hd600 sounds the best.
I got the hifiman sundara, wh1000xm3 , kph30i.
And I would dare to say that the koss kph30i is the best 30$ headphone to exist.
Both the hd600 and kph30i are tuned to the neutral target.
Clearly the kph30i is a hd600 but less detailed and clear but still a solid experience.
I swapped many time between them and even when I got the hd600 ,I often grabbed the kph30i when going outside.
Best part is that the hd600 and kph30i sound just fine on a smartphone dac.
No need of an external amp/dac
Respect your ears and get the kph30i if you are on a budget but still want a sound that Respect you
I also have these and other Headphones, to me HD660s are the best and 600 . For the price 30i are just amazing and way better than most other way more expensive. Sundara are also great but sound fake metallic compared to 660 ,600.
I was looking for a video comparing these to "normie" headphones & im glad I found it. I know these are in a completely different league but when you have no point of reference as someone considering them its hard to make a choice.
If your source is on the phone or home with low quality sounds don't expect great sound. Your going to need real records or high bitrate streaming to get any real world benefits from high end headphones. Mainstream headphones have tuned/profiles enhance to give us sound that don't break the bank. Audiophiles need to be honest in reviews.
@@pandassudsnshine4125 wise words, thats why audio enthusiasts pump lot of money into amp's and dac's to get the most of our precious headphones
@@pandassudsnshine4125agree, audiophiles tuning style needs decent amp and DAC, if you dont have that already just buy something mainstream
What you told as "soundstage" is actually "imaging"
Imaging : The headphone gives you an idea where each and every instrument is placed in the room while recording
Soundstage : How far away the sound is coming from. If its intimate soundstage, it would feel like the instrument is near your ear. If its wide soundstage, it would sound like the sound if coming 4 meter to your right.
This is super clear and helpful, great explanation and thank you!
This is really nice info, thanks
Yea what he says is imaging, thanks for pointing that out before me
Myself (an audiophile) and essentially every audiophile friend and reviewer I've seen disagree with you. Soundstaging is the realism of sound placement, while the width is literally just referred to as width. When audiophiles say imaging, they are referring to the movement of sounds from left to right.
I love this! When watching reviews, especially about sth as personal as sound, I like to discover the topic from as many perspectives as possible and this video offers a really honest and relatable perspective. Thanksss
3:40 quick note
plese...PLEASEEEE
do not use impedence as a info on whether a headphone need amp or not...PLEASE
look at sensitivity /mw instead as it more accurate on how loud the headphone can push at similar power output
for example my he400se and akg k371 both have similar impedence but i wouldnt run he400se off mother board or phone dac..why? because the thing is pretty unsensitive
similar story as my blessing 2 and kato...1 need a bit of volume while other can blow your ear if you push it a bit
..so why do manufacturer include them? because impedence swing (when 2 have drastically different impedence..ie your source to your headphone of choise) it can changes your frequency responce (changes in the frequency impedence curve)
Very useful and informative! Thank you for uploading this
Glad you liked it!
"Audiophile" can be a loaded and alienating term. The HD600 are for everyone that wants better than just average sound. They need not be the foo-foo pinky in the air type. They can be someone that enjoys the higher performance the HD600's offer vs ear buds.
DankPods
i also have a btr5 2021, i run hd600s through the balanced output, it’s way stronger, also has two audio processors instead of one for the regular unbalanced 3.5 mm
I had my btr5 for about let's say half to less than a year. it was so cool and did its job but, one day as I was adjusting the custom equalizer through the official Fiio app, the dac became unresponsive and bricked itself. there is a chance I can bring it back to life but I would need a computer and need to find the firmware/software thingy for a chance to bring it back to life.
so in conclusion, don't use fiio's crappy app because it might just ruin your btr5 and maybe other fiio devices. but that's just my experience so do what you will
@@spartan671_ used it for years, never really had any issues aside from sometimes the app crashing, but every fiio device i had was fine
Good work. I have the same setup (HD600 + BTR5) and is great enough IMO if You are not bass head but someone wants to LISTEN TO MUSIC.
Precisely
Hey, I have the btr5, would be great to get your feedback on this with the hd600, as I want to buy these headphones 🎧, cheers
little bear b4-x is amp that HD600 like
I like bass, but I remaster stuff myself. It's time-consuming, but I can make quiet songs louder, weak bass stronger, cold songs warmer (reverb, saturation, eq), over-compressed songs less mids (mids are ear-piercing when studios just smash the limiter all lazy-like), etc.
And the lossless source. For MP3/Bluetooth just anything is enough....
Nice to hear a non audiophiles take on these cans . sometimes audiophiles get so bogged down in technical detail they just end up confusing everyone
The HD600 don't even have a very good soundstage compared to most high quality headphones but they are still one of the best headphones ever made.
Big Or small soundstage is not a con . Its what u prefer and what music listen. Big soundstage on songs with vocals sound worst than close to u . Movies and orchestra on the other hand sounds better on big soundstage.
@@Tripokaridos22 Actually I like orchestra recordings very much on HD600. Movies and sound effects aren't great on them though.
@@jasonjansen9831 honestly everything that has to do with music i only use HD600 and 660s , For games i sold everything and use koss kc75 15 euro headphone lol , About movies i use in ear Beyerdynamic soul byrd 90 euro iem that has huge soundstage and a bit boosted bass. I have make the headphones journey and ut was great all these Hifimans Focals BW BO yeah some of them was amazing on something but lose on something else. Sometimes simplier is better and HD600 for music for light weight comfort price easy to find parts and most of all they last forever and uts easy to sell them. Its the Toyota of headphones .
@@Tripokaridos22 HD600 represent music so naturally. Like the players are in the room with you and nothing is hyped up. Too wide soundstage makes music sound artificial to me.
@@jasonjansen9831 Yeahp fully agree.
The singular fact that your previous best quality audio was Airpods pro, makes this review worth quite a lot for me!
For me, the best audio exeperience is also airpods, and so your opinion, while of course not an audiophile, has value *because* you're not an audiophile- like me, with the same prior experience.
I just bought a DAC/AMP and am likely about to buy these, a choice helped to (probably) finalize on the HD600s.
Also, 6:36 - sums up quite a lot when trying to learn things!
I changed the earcups on my Phillips Fidelio X2HR and now i love them .
Man! what a great video. I just loved it.
I really enjoyed the video and hope you can make more but I have seen some negative comments on this video and just wanted to say you did a amazing job and you have some reply good potential with this channel and I can see you getting millions of subscribers if you put in the work❤
Bro why did you stop making reviews after this. I love the style of the video. I thought you had like 100k+ subs while watching.
did you use the 3.5mm jack on the BTR5, or the 2.5mm?
Fantastic video that explains everything well
HD 600
Pros :
- Very clear and detailed, it feels snappy.
- Neutral sound which is why many like this.
- Vocal is clear and forward.
Cons:
- Bass is not impactful as you find in a lots of review.
- Soundstage feels definitely narrow and restricted, I could confirm this after hours of usage.
- Not as enjoyable for a casual/normal user. That laid back and smoothness is missing.
HD 6xx
Pros:
- Much better based and sounds fuller.
- Soundstage is definitely better.
- Very smooth and laid back tune that could be used for hours without fatigue.
- Vocals are darker and recessed, if you like that.
Cons:
- Not as clear or detailed as you may feel when compared with HD 650
- Not neutral sound signature as HD 650
As my HD 6xx got damaged I ordered HD 600 after so many wonderful recommendations online but in short it is not as enjoyable and non-fatiguing . So will try now HD 660s or something which is more enjoyable and return HD 600.
Considering enjoyability aspect in mind might be Sennheiser sound engineers tuning the subsequent versions of 600 series (650, 660s, 660s2 etc.) - Kudos to them for these wonderful Open-backs.
Hey man just a note, the clips of the music over b-roll are way louder than clips with you talking. Otherwise, great video
You aren't joking, it just about blew my ears out!
HD600 is irreplaceable. There is nothing else in the world that sounds like them. Maybe Etymotic in-ears but essentially they're one of a kind, vocal-centric, heavenly experience.
Yes I have a pair purchased hd600 over 22 years ago!!!!
and I bet they are still going strong 💪
Are they though?
Thanks for this review! As an non-audiophile. I came the same conclusion after hours of reviews from Resolve, Joshua and Crin. Bought my HD600, but need an amp to push the sound and volume a little over....
“Honky” refers to when the upper mids seem too pronounced and therefore sounding uncomfortable and exaggerated, everyones ears are difference however and pinna response isnt the same for everyone
The ear cups could change the sound, in the other part, the cable shouldn't.
yet balanced cable is always a good upgrade if you have balanced source
Liked the vid! Love the personality and the review!
I own a pair of AKG K-612 Pro's and I can confirm that those kinds of earpads can make your head itch enough for it to be annoying. The issue has however gone away after a couple weeks of usage probably due to wear and sweat. They sit just fine and really comfy now.
How would you describe the sound of those? I'm trying to choose between that and the HD600.
As a normal person, i can confirm it's good.
👍
Sennheiser HD600 have very little bass,but you can EQ them a little whit a free software "APO" and "Peace" and you can get more low end bass out of the HD600 ;)
Just a heads up, the BTR5 is only rated for up to 150 ohms. While you can run HD600’s out of a BTR5, you’re really pushing the limits of the poor thing. HD600’s have a 300 ohm impedance. I really recommend getting something like an audient id4 (it’s a DAC that has a built in amp that can run headphones up to 300 ohms no problem) or a separate DAC/AMP.
You could also go the cheaper route and just get a replacement cable that terminates in a 2.5mm balanced over the standard 3.5mm. The BTR5 has 2 DAC’s in it, but they’re only both used if you’re using the balanced out. Balanced out on the BTR5 is something crazy; like 270mW of power. That should be enough to comfortably run HD600’s.
Great video dude
Also can you please say what the music in your video is?
It sounds amazing
Thank you for keeping it simple. I'm an IEM only guy but would love to add pair of these to my audio gear arsenal.
Glad you enjoyed!
Greetings from Toronto ☕️☕️
Love my Sen’s 650’s on TUBES .
The detail ,warmth, and soundstage are highlighted in that they bring out the best that the design has to offer.😋
Stop trying to sell him snake oil...
@@leviathan5207 My 789 amp is super clean almost too sterile ..but the tubes help soften out the edges 😋
@@leviathan5207 tubes are snake oil for you? you are clearly a fool, sorry for honesty
it sounds great, just make sure dac/amp have bass boost/tune option, just incase youre not satisfied
Ok no beats are better than the airpods but maybe to your ears they sound better I can't dismiss that, everybody's ears are different and pick up sound different as a result
With the soundstage part, the hd600 are very intimate but the imaging ie the precision of where sounds are coming from within the stage maybe gives the illusion of a wide stage
Do you ever have issues where it sounds louder on one side. Off balance then mess with head placement and it’s ok?
My ears.. could you keep the volume more level during the transitions?
I like the video, just some tips
1. Lighter transition/ background music.
2. Clip on rode mice for less echo
3. Slow down just a tiny bit. You’re going through your points so fast i dont get to take them into consideration
I take my hd 600s everywhere with just my iPhone. I just got like a 3 foot cable. They are pretty portable if you ask me.
I like that I can wear them with my glasses on without them hurting. I have another couple of headphones that sound good; beyerdynamic DT 880 Pros at 250 ohms, which I run from my pedal board when I'm practicing guitar or bass at night, and beyerdynamic 1990 Pros at 250 ohms that I use for critical listening when I need to shut out sound. However, the I cannot wear the 1990s with my glasses on. the 880s are fine and sound excellent, the 1990 sound good, but I need my glasses off. this isn't usually a big deal, but when I want to read 10 point type on my iMac, I need the glasses. I run the 500s (which are 300 ohms) and 1990s through a separate DAC and headphone output. I use the DAC in my pedalboard when I practice, and it isn't as good, it sometimes gets some jitter. I usually use the 600s because they sound good, are lightweight, and are comfortable. The 880s sound really good, but I don't want to spend a lot of time switching headphones from my DAC to the pedalboard. The 88os are ported, so they have some sound leakage, but not much.They do have good imaging; I can hear sounds that appear to be behind me. I use the 1990s if I need to block sound bleed. I bought a shielded extension cable that I use with my 600s, so I have enough cord length. My 1990s only have a regular plug, so I can't use them with my small shielded cable jack. They still sound good. I don't consider myself an audiophile, but I know sound I like and I don't like.
Im thinking to by BTR5 To Replace My BTR3K That Does Not Seem To Charge Right Anymore
add a Schitt magni or vali with the Schitt modi dac... and you will be amazed how good they sound! (only works if you are listening at your desktop). cheers!
haha, that slide was clean!
Hey guys, what are the opinions around running the hd600 with the btr5 dac amp 🤔 Cheers
Any source that can provide 1Vrms will do the job, since they have a sensitivity of 105dB/Vrms. So, a 9$ apple dongle will do the trick :)
@@leviathan5207 thanks for that mate 👍
If you're going with these headphones, you should definitely invest in a better amp. DX3 pro + would probably be the best bang for your buck.
@@coloradoing9172 thanks so much mate, that's what I'm leaning towards as the 560s are a great headphone, or maybe the ifi hip dac 2, but my gut feeling is the topping
good info! thanks
the price has gone up tho , Bidenomecs and such
Mine ate modified and painted
good vid keep it up 👌
Putting them on Bluetooth kills the whole point of them Bluetooth is lossy and not lossless
just a note: make sure adjustments are identical on both sides or else channel balance will get affected. Also btr5 is massively holding them back. I'll highly recommend Questyle M15 with a balanced cable on the affordable side. Best if you can pair them with a OTL and dac combo. Feliks echo mk2 + rme adi 2 for example
@AHMED SHAFIUL i have HD600 + BTR5, i am 46 yo, i use it with a volume set to 40 of 60 (low gain, single ended 3,5mm jack) and sound is great and loud. BTR5 has enough power to drive HD600 unless You want to be deaf as a post (very soon). At full volume ( BTR5 ) HD600 produces about 101dB (single ended 3,5mm jack) and about 106 dB (balanced 2,5mm jack). pneumatic hammer is about 100dB loud.
OTLs are distortion generators and anything more expensive than a clean usbc dongle (9$ for apples offering) is a waste of money 99% of the time, since a headphone rarely needs more than 1 Vrms to reach adequate peak volume for highly dynamic music.
You know you can simply bunch up the cable and tie it down with a ziptie or anything else right?
Yeah I know you can do that, but two reasons why no: 1) I don’t want to break the cable from being folded over and 2) when I’m sitting at my desk, having the cable be super long is actually quite nice
@@aaronthetechguy Well sure it would be best to have two cables, I just bought the headphones and I rolled the cable around my hand and put some zipties on it. From previous experience, I don't think it will affect it in any negative way, but then again who knows.
You could buy the 6xx which is the same thing but 250 or the hd58x’s which are 200-170 depending on if
They are on sale and they sound similar but hold in more bass
I believe it’s the opposite. I think that the hd6xx are based off the hd650s, which have more bass, while the hd58x are based on the hd600s. I’ve heard they’re both a great buy though
@@aaronthetechguy The 58x use a completely different driver than the 6 familly, they are supposedly more of a cheap 660s but it has a hd700 driver. The 58x technically is somewhat a cross of the 5 and 6 familly of sens. The housing of it being obviously the same visually but cheaper plastic and a unique 150ohm driver only 58x usess with a sound signature tuned to be more of a 6 series headphone. It's arguable if the 58x belongs next to the 6 ones but it's mighty fine for the price.
Why can’t you take these headphones to school or anywhere else?
Open back means they blast whatever you are listening to all around you.
just order, wait and listen
would be best if you buy pair of affordable iem + proper dac while waiting
if you want portable good audio then just get IEMs, if not there are some steadily really good TWS earbuds coming out like the new galaxy buds pro 2. But for wireless headphones not so much.
If you want an out and about headphone thats closed back and wont break the bank a little more bass and subbass but still clear try the DT770 Pros either as 80ohm or 250ohm as you have the btr5 you wont regret it at all
Or the Dt 900 Pro X because they DONT have the typical beyer peak which causes sibilance.
I love mine
I respect that ur wearing a red kippah during the vid 😂im more of a blue kippah kind of guy
Id be using my hidizs s9 pro dac amp dongle and fiio btr7 to listen via ldac
those sing with more power. i dont think your BTR5 is enough. but looking at the BTR5 specs they have more power via the balanced connector. get yourself a balanced cable.
Yeah I’d love to try the balanced out, but it’s currently out of my budget because those cables are just so expensive. According to dankpods the btr5 is more than enough to power it.
@@aaronthetechguy there should be cheap balanced cables on Amazon.
you look like 2004
I already have a mint hd5i0, and a mint second hand hd 660s, but today I bought a new hd600. Price was £215. On nain sennheiser web site plus code.
Hd580.....not gd5i0. ??
Enjoy!
What about for listening to Techno for like 5+hrs. non-stop or several hours off and on throughout the entire day? Is the bass response good like 990 Pro or 900 Pro X or even the MDR-7506? Can i wear them with my eyeglasses for hours in comfort, or will they hurt?
I personally find the bass response quite pleasing because you can hear all the bass without it shaking your head or distorting the music. I can’t compare it to any of those other headphones as I’ve never tried them before. I’ve also never worn them with glasses so I can’t speak to that.
@@aaronthetechguy thank you very much for your feedback.
side note...rting ...compensated ...are...kinda ...shit.....read their raw instead
There's no such thing as a 'normal' person.
Can someone help me with an answer that can determine me in purchasing the Sennheiser HD 600:
Can I drive them directly from headphone output of a dedicated sound card from my PC? (in my case M-Audio Revolution 5.1)
Thank you.
You CAN, but you SHOULDN'T. They won't sound anywhere near their best without a dedicated amp.
@@mistersurrealistnowhere near this best it's still leagues above what most people are using.. and that's an exaggeration. They get better with really good amplification but the foundation if you plugged it into an iPod is solidly there.
addon soundcard does have dedicated amp, its basically dac+mic
bro sounds like xqc
Huh duh six hundos
A wireless dac🤦♂️🤦♂️, just get the dragonfly black or cobalt and have gotten yourself a real dac
Hd 600 are extremely unengaging with stuff like btr5. Its a shame that people have not heard hd 600/650 in their full glory. An otl is a must with them
Stop spreading myths, my man. All an OTL does is add distortion and a tad bit of bass. If you want bass, just use EQ, which btw is free on windows and then you will have better sound without any distortion.
yes tubes are recommended
@@leviathan5207 it depend on quality of a tube amp, you clearly dont have enough money for high end tube amp boy
@@soulfulfool An amplifier only makes the sound louder regardless of its price. You are mixing it up with a DAC which is responsible for better details.
@@soulfulfoolI make tube amps, and that he's said is true. I don't bother to use them myself beyond as an oddity. The only time they're really useful is for electrostatic drivers.
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Ayo
@@aaronthetechguy 🤨
Mate, could you talk faster?
Always
Their HD 58X sound almost identical to the 600s. For a lot less.
Nah they really don't :>
90 percent midrange like almost all their cans but 280s. Bland. @NoHairMan
from cheap to high end sound. If your using streaming for music with avg bitrate stick to mainstream headsets or earbuds. The sound is only as good as your source. most people aren't paying for high bitrate audio for every single track or albums. Most audiophile barely speak on the "Source" of audio you need. Be Honest with viewers on what comes in the territory chasing the dragon of high end sound.
you posted this comment twice
@@mr2meows I hit send and it said it didn’t go through. I’ll erase it
Yup. Garbage comes in, garbage comes out. Highly compressed mp3s will sound like highly compressed mp3s regardless of what headphones you use.
@@coloradoing9172 exactly. I wish we could get one honest reviewer on what you need before picking a high end headset.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about and haven't actually done the comparison. Even half decent bitrates of codecs these days are neigh inaudible compared to lossless. The headphones are where it all matters and very little else does. If I plug my headphones into an AM radio, even that will sound a hell of a lot better than shit speakers.
Turn down that damn music. Seriously
do you need eyedrops you're blinking a lot
My PHILLIPS X2HR Are Open Back And Produce An AweSomeNess PerSoNiFied Bass Using My Fiio BTR7 and Tidal
dud you need at least Fiio Q11 with balanced cable to power hd600 or new Fiio KA15 with balanced cable, Q11 with balanced output is like 5 times more power than BTR5.............lol......your video is not even funny, hello????????? you are not hearing HD600 through BTR5, you are hearing just noise...................please educate yourself on power and impedance and sensitivity................lol
I love your obsessionw ith FiiO shit. I bet you only look at audio graphs on ASR instead of actually listening to the damn things. Also balanced output does jack shit for quality.
@@crylune lol did you say something, your paragraph contains no info
Never thought I'd say this... but ..Shut up nerd
Useless
Wow😐
It's funny that you think you're a normal person.
😂 If you want portability get Sennheiser Momentum lolz. Apples is just garage next to Sennheiser
Yeah but the convenience is a big factor, and the AirPods are objectively not bad at all