The difference between America and Britain is that we have separate states that allow us to have independent Governments with separate laws tailored to the beliefs in that state. This allows for safe havens and the obvious disparity between the faith based and faithless societies.
Britain is made up of the nations Scotland, a England and Wales. They are the different states that make Britain and that is supported by the Uk constitution which outlines a design for devolved governments in each state.
@@thomasswanick4237 I agree Scotland actually joined the UK voluntarily. Although there are differences we overlap more probably than we separate. However I would also this is also true of the relationship between the fed and the states in America in my observation, although different idiosyncrasies may be present. It is in my understanding that in history when states in America have divergent intentions that civil war has ensued and this has preserved the federal system. And so if states were to diverge again in the modern era would we see something similar?
@@hazatack " when states have divergent intenti0ns" y0u mean when the g0d fearing s0uthern states went t0 war t0 preserve the way 0f Iife a sIave 0wning ec0n0my br0ught them ?
I don't know much about God, infact nothing, but would love to connect with the idea. I'd listen to Rev Robinson if he chose to teach online. I could learn from him.
@angusn0ts0y0ungbutveryimmature2445 "Once I saw that priest hand in hand with his other half I knew we couldn't worship in his Church." y0u just admitted that the sight 0f y0ur priest`s happiness caused y0u t0 Ieave his church and iIIustrated where the reaI int0Ierance Iies entireiy undermining y0ur new her0`s p0int weII d0ne, I`m sure y0ur invisibIe man wiII rej0ice in the christian I0ve y0u exhibit
@@MusiciansWithVisionI think @kbeetles means that God became man in the person of Jesus Christ who revealed God to mankind therefore we don't have to guess what God is or who God is. So it's not just an idea, it's not a force but a person with whom we can have relationship with.
Following on from the discussion about intolerance/persecution of Christians at the start (more nuanced than the title suggests), this was a thoughtful discussion about how Christians should live in the world, but not be of it.
So truth does not matter to you, Sharon, that you would prefer to stay with error. Now that you are out of the frypan, i.e., CoE, will you jump into the fire or seek an actual faith to save your soul, rather than going from one heresy to another. Just so you know, there are 50000+ protestant denominations. Each one is heretical. Truth does not exist in any of them, certainly not the truth that the Apostles believed lived and practised, that's for sure.
@sharonyoung5964 I am not accusing you of anything Sharon I'm just stating a fact that the CoE which is protestant and every protestant denomination ie Lutheran, Calvin, Methodist, Presbyterian, LDS, Episcopalian everyone of them all 50000+ of them do not practice Christianity, to practice Christianity, would mean to follow believe live and practice the Christian faith that the Apostles believed lived and practised as they were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. Through that inspiration and instruction, the Catholic Church began with, by, and from, the Apostles. So if you want the truth, it is in the Catholic Church, I am not referring to individuals but to what it believes lives and practices, and it does so by ecclesiastical Authority which began with the Apostles who again were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ because He gave them Authority. In saying that, every so-called Christian faith that finds its roots back to only 500 years is a man made construct and not God inspired. Every protestant denomination is a fraud on Christianity and on humanity itself.
@sharonyoung5964 So to defend the truth as you see it is not worth defending, then what is the purpose of faith, when we all stand in front of God and He will ask what did you do Sharon to make me known and to tell the truth to those bad Catholics???? Your response to God would be that it would be a waste of your energy to make you known God and to tell the truth to people. In response to that do you think God would say, "Well done, my good and faithful servant, you have shown that you can be trust in small things, I will give you greater things" or will He say "Go into that place where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for from there you shall not leave. Which response would you say is more appropriate for not defending God's Good Name???
There is also Saint Marys Kansas under SSPX. Community of 4000 with schools and newly consecrated Church. I fear these communities will become targets. They have already experienced harassment.
It is one thing for religious zealots to live by their personal faith convictions, however it is quite another to proselytize and evangelize. It is the latter that will bring push-back and intolerance.
Respectfully HEAR you - but let’s not begin to follow media in fear mongering - be vigilantly aware, whilst at the same time feeding solution , rather than escalation - I felt the dear brother who was interviewing was being purposefully emotionally escalating 🙏🏽remember that the evil that prevails will seek out control through ‘ divide and conquer-‘ 🙏🏽🕯️💜
The Church is already largely divided...what he is advocating would bring the True Church together...there will be a sifting...the wheat from the chaff...
I don't know if you have paid attention to Greece and the firm stand of more and more bishops re all these issues. Firmly and loudly. But logically. Point Christianity was born in the cities , ( pagani !! = Country people ).
Calvin, did not Jesus command all Christians to teach? Matthew 28:19,20. The apostles commanded to teach, and all those they taught were to do the same. Jesus also said you receive free, give free, so isn't the Bible saying that all Christians should share their faith. Have you ever looked into Jehovah's witnesses?
he wants t0 be persecuted he wiII be bIest by being persecuted and even m0re christIike his eg0 gets in the way 0f his faith if jesus r0se fr0m the dead what did he sacrifice ? n0t his Iife 0bvi0usIy if he returns unscathed he has sacrificed what exactIy ? three days
@@janetgillespie6590 @janetgillespie6590 19 hours ago "Yes he did lose his life and he was also tortured.. Imagine yourself in his place, and then would you say it was nothing" y0u seem t0 think his being t0rtured pr0ves he sacrificed his Iife ?!?!? h0w ? he "I0st " his Iife f0r three days his return, unscathed, three days Iater pr0ves he did n0t sacrifice his Iife in fact it degrades the reaI sacrifice pe0pIe have made f0r 0thers "y0u w0uIdn`t Iike it if y0u`d been t0rtured" is n0t a satisfact0ry answer t0 the questi0n "what did he sacrifice ? " in fact its a pathetic resp0nse which iIIustrates y0u have n0 answer
@creedandculture Anglicanism is a fake religion. Anglicanism, and therefore, all protestant beliefs are a contradiction to Christianity. There is nothing in Anglicanism and therefore all of protestantism that has ecclesiastical Authority because it is not come from God, but it is a man made construct. Question for you: Because God is all truth, will God, therefore, contradict His Word by supporting a religion that does not believe, teach, and practice what Jesus told the Apostles to believe teach and practice; eg what Jesus said to the Apostles in John chapter 20 vrs 20-23. Only the Catholic church believes teaches and practices confession as it says because only the Catholic Church began with, by, and from, the Apostles. Therefore, only the Catholic Church has ecclesiastical Authority.
I love Calvin Robinson. So grateful for his outspokenness.
The difference between America and Britain is that we have separate states that allow us to have independent Governments with separate laws tailored to the beliefs in that state. This allows for safe havens and the obvious disparity between the faith based and faithless societies.
@thomasswanck4237-That is true to a point, but the federal government likes to push its own agenda onto the states.
Britain is made up of the nations Scotland, a
England and Wales. They are the different states that make Britain and that is supported by the Uk constitution which outlines a design for devolved governments in each state.
This is true but in modern history other than Ireland they don't seam to stray very far from one another.@@hazatack
@@thomasswanick4237 I agree Scotland actually joined the UK voluntarily. Although there are differences we overlap more probably than we separate. However I would also this is also true of the relationship between the fed and the states in America in my observation, although different idiosyncrasies may be present. It is in my understanding that in history when states in America have divergent intentions that civil war has ensued and this has preserved the federal system. And so if states were to diverge again in the modern era would we see something similar?
@@hazatack
" when states have divergent intenti0ns"
y0u mean when the g0d fearing s0uthern states went t0 war t0 preserve the way 0f Iife a sIave 0wning ec0n0my br0ught them ?
I don't know much about God, infact nothing, but would love to connect with the idea. I'd listen to Rev Robinson if he chose to teach online. I could learn from him.
In other words, you would follow the man who claims to represent God rather than follow God himself; join the queue, that's what everyone does!
God is not an idea - He is a person. He wants a relationship with each and every one of us.Find interviews with Prof. John Lennox.
@@kbeetles I have no IDEA what you are talking about!!!
@angusn0ts0y0ungbutveryimmature2445
"Once I saw that priest hand in hand with his other half I knew we couldn't worship in his Church."
y0u just admitted that the sight 0f y0ur priest`s happiness caused y0u t0 Ieave his church
and iIIustrated where the reaI int0Ierance Iies
entireiy undermining y0ur new her0`s p0int
weII d0ne, I`m sure y0ur invisibIe man wiII rej0ice in the christian I0ve y0u exhibit
@@MusiciansWithVisionI think @kbeetles means that God became man in the person of Jesus Christ who revealed God to mankind therefore we don't have to guess what God is or who God is. So it's not just an idea, it's not a force but a person with whom we can have relationship with.
Following on from the discussion about intolerance/persecution of Christians at the start (more nuanced than the title suggests), this was a thoughtful discussion about how Christians should live in the world, but not be of it.
Thanks!
Now Imagine this conversation being in Russia in 1910
I would return to CofE if there were more Calvin’s. Many still believe but are leaving in droves.
So truth does not matter to you, Sharon, that you would prefer to stay with error. Now that you are out of the frypan, i.e., CoE, will you jump into the fire or seek an actual faith to save your soul, rather than going from one heresy to another. Just so you know, there are 50000+ protestant denominations. Each one is heretical. Truth does not exist in any of them, certainly not the truth that the Apostles believed lived and practised, that's for sure.
What exactly are you accusing me of? And what is the actual faith you are implying? Please clarify
@sharonyoung5964 I am not accusing you of anything Sharon I'm just stating a fact that the CoE which is protestant and every protestant denomination ie Lutheran, Calvin, Methodist, Presbyterian, LDS, Episcopalian everyone of them all 50000+ of them do not practice Christianity, to practice Christianity, would mean to follow believe live and practice the Christian faith that the Apostles believed lived and practised as they were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. Through that inspiration and instruction, the Catholic Church began with, by, and from, the Apostles. So if you want the truth, it is in the Catholic Church, I am not referring to individuals but to what it believes lives and practices, and it does so by ecclesiastical Authority which began with the Apostles who again were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ because He gave them Authority. In saying that, every so-called Christian faith that finds its roots back to only 500 years is a man made construct and not God inspired. Every protestant denomination is a fraud on Christianity and on humanity itself.
Catholics! Peter I would enter into a heated debate which I really would not waste my energy on especially about catholism. I wish you well.
@sharonyoung5964 So to defend the truth as you see it is not worth defending, then what is the purpose of faith, when we all stand in front of God and He will ask what did you do Sharon to make me known and to tell the truth to those bad Catholics???? Your response to God would be that it would be a waste of your energy to make you known God and to tell the truth to people. In response to that do you think God would say, "Well done, my good and faithful servant, you have shown that you can be trust in small things, I will give you greater things" or will He say "Go into that place where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for from there you shall not leave. Which response would you say is more appropriate for not defending God's Good Name???
There is also Saint Marys Kansas under SSPX. Community of 4000 with schools and newly consecrated Church. I fear these communities will become targets. They have already experienced harassment.
Some teacher was sacked for their beliefs. That would be illegal. Should go to court to sort it out
It is one thing for religious zealots to live by their personal faith convictions, however it is quite another to proselytize and evangelize. It is the latter that will bring push-back and intolerance.
Im in the neo catechumenal way, little comunities living in comunion, simplcity and praise where the other is Christ
Respectfully HEAR you - but let’s not begin to follow media in fear mongering - be vigilantly aware, whilst at the same time feeding solution , rather than escalation - I felt the dear brother who was interviewing was being purposefully emotionally escalating 🙏🏽remember that the evil that prevails will seek out control through ‘ divide and conquer-‘ 🙏🏽🕯️💜
The Church is already largely divided...what he is advocating would bring the True Church together...there will be a sifting...the wheat from the chaff...
Decentralize!
DeFi unplug from the Matrix
I don't know if you have paid attention to Greece and the firm stand of more and more bishops re all these issues. Firmly and loudly. But logically. Point Christianity was born in the cities , ( pagani !! = Country people ).
He was already purged.
Persecution is coming, no doubt brethren. Be prepared in the Lord, walk closely with the Holy Spirit and loosen your grip on material possessions.
Calvin, did not Jesus command all Christians to teach?
Matthew 28:19,20.
The apostles commanded to teach, and all those they taught were to do the same.
Jesus also said you receive free, give free, so isn't the Bible saying that all Christians should share their faith.
Have you ever looked into Jehovah's witnesses?
No, teaching is a gift of the Spirit...only a few have it. If we all taught, who would be left to listen?
he wants t0 be persecuted
he wiII be bIest by being persecuted and even m0re christIike
his eg0 gets in the way 0f his faith
if jesus r0se fr0m the dead what did he sacrifice ?
n0t his Iife 0bvi0usIy
if he returns unscathed he has sacrificed what exactIy ?
three days
Yes he did lose his life and he was also tortured..
Imagine yourself in his place, and then would you say it was nothing.
@@janetgillespie6590
@janetgillespie6590
19 hours ago
"Yes he did lose his life and he was also tortured..
Imagine yourself in his place, and then would you say it was nothing"
y0u seem t0 think his being t0rtured
pr0ves he sacrificed his Iife ?!?!?
h0w ?
he "I0st " his Iife f0r three days
his return, unscathed, three days Iater pr0ves he did n0t sacrifice his Iife
in fact it degrades the reaI sacrifice pe0pIe have made f0r 0thers
"y0u w0uIdn`t Iike it if y0u`d been t0rtured"
is n0t a satisfact0ry answer t0 the questi0n
"what did he sacrifice ? "
in fact its a pathetic resp0nse which iIIustrates y0u have n0 answer
Fake
Wow
@creedandculture Anglicanism is a fake religion. Anglicanism, and therefore, all protestant beliefs are a contradiction to Christianity. There is nothing in Anglicanism and therefore all of protestantism that has ecclesiastical Authority because it is not come from God, but it is a man made construct. Question for you: Because God is all truth, will God, therefore, contradict His Word by supporting a religion that does not believe, teach, and practice what Jesus told the Apostles to believe teach and practice; eg what Jesus said to the Apostles in John chapter 20 vrs 20-23. Only the Catholic church believes teaches and practices confession as it says because only the Catholic Church began with, by, and from, the Apostles. Therefore, only the Catholic Church has ecclesiastical Authority.
@@creedandculturePeter is still living in the fantasy world that the Catholic Church is the only true church that Jesus founded.