If I win the lottery, I pledge to donate to Agadmator: A set of soundless furniture covers A case of premium dog food An autographed picture of Tal 1 senzu bean
Agadmator is fanatastic, we are so fortunate that he has gifted us with his incredible talent to explain complicated positions in such an understandable manner! Thank you Antonio!
Like most people who enjoy chess and learn a bit about the players, I've always enjoyed Tal as much for his personality as for his style and creativity. I'm really enjoying this series because it is also revealing to me just what a genius and gentleman Botvinnik was. Botvinnik's playing style might not have the "wow" factor that some of Tal's games do, but it was just so solid. In order to defeat Botvinnik, other players really needed to come up with some original and wonderful tactics. Also, Agadmator...I've noticed you have zero games on your channel featuring Max Euwe. You've mentioned him, but there are no games of the former world champion here. Yet.
That's some real dedication showing us those wonderful words by Tal. Absolutely loving this. Paused the video & read the entire thing shown in your previous video as well. It also really shows how much one has to go through to become a world champion (even Tal) when most people these days just casually talk about grandmasters & their titles passing judgements about who's the greatest etc etc. Really appreciate the in-depth analysis 👍🏼👌🏼😎
That's the brilliance of his games. I'm not a very good player ( rating 900 tops) and I can't calculate lines very far. But I probably would play some moves like tal without knowing it. The more we know about chess, the more cautious and less experimental we become. It's like he combines the innovation of a beginner and the brilliance of a master.
Amazing! I love these sharp tactical positions. I'm working very hard to improve my tactical skills. I noticed the more complex the position the more likely it is for players to blunder which only favors those with the better tactical skills. Today I defeated someone much higher rated in a sicilian dragon at the local club, classical time controls, because I kept attacking while defending. We both made mistakes but I think I essentially wore him down mentally after creating so many complex positions. After the game he was surprised I was rated several hundred points lower than him. lol
That is simply not true. It is widely recognized that the soviet players were the strongest players overall, there were so many soviet world champions. Even today there are tons of Russian GMs. It was a huge deal when Fisher broke the trend and became world champion, because the soviet players were so strong. You go on about mutant supermen... Nobody believes that chess players are mutants.
Ok, you view chess through a political discourse. Thats fair enough, but I certainly have equal respect for all the greats of the past. Its 2018, I don't really care if someone was communist or not. I study these old games to learn about chess, not to learn about political history. I study all of the greats. But style is also such an important factor for remembering players. Think about combinational masters like Paul Morphy or Alekhine in opposition of positional masters like Lasker and Capablanca. So Tal will always be more popular than Botvinnik, because of his attacking style. Same goes for Kasparov and Karpov. Karpov is more recognized for his defensive positional way of playing, while Kasparov was known for his attacking ideas and innovations. Personally I like all of these players, but it noticeable that videos about Tal or Kasparov get more views than say Botvinnik or Petrosian. I certainly agree with you on some level, but don't rule out playing style, is all I am saying.
Ron Maimon, you're telling that Botvinnik was communist like he has a choice. He lived in the age of Stalin. There were up to 80 000 000 people imprisoned due to someone told they are not communists
Ma kakvi Hikaru, kakav Gotham chess, kakvi ovi oni…samo Agadmator! Ulipsas mi svaki dan sa jednim videom, a nekad se zalipin i na njih 10! Svako dobro! Keep up the good work.
Considering that I know quite nothing about chess, I can still enjoy these videos. You make top-level class chess very understandable and fascinating, even for newbies like me. It's pure witchcraft ! Bravo Agadmator !
In his fine book The Seven Deadly Chess Sins, GM Jonathan Rowson devoted some pages to this game. After 31 Bxc6 (!! - "a stroke of practical genius." - Rowson), Tal's comment was "It is regrettable that white has to part with his bishop, but the threats to the d-pawn force this. As compensation, White gets some freedom of movement for his rooks." Rowson: "These are not the words of a man riding the wave of his own ego...What is so admirable is that Tal shows so little attachment to the gem in his own position and such keen awareness of what the moment required...If he had played 31 Ne2, he would have acknowledged that black was setting the pace and thus put Botvinnik at ease, but Tal insists that the tension be felt by both players."
Let alone other chess books........... I would like to show my generation 'the book' that has exact words of agadmator during his lifetime chess analysis............
When reading the headlines i knew immediately it was the f2-f4 move.I have read his book The life and Games of Mikhail Tal , an amazing book. Nice to see that you use some commentary out of it.
This is LONG, LONG overdue. Agadmator, I love your channel! I've been watching your content for roughly three months now upon discovering your channel. I live in the United States. I am no better than an amateur chess player, but your game analyses are so fun and very insightful to watch! I am also an amateur vlogger doing a TH-cam series on the upcoming Russia 2018 FIFA world cup. I wish your country, Croatia, the best this summer! They have terrific chances as a dark horse, in my opinion. Anyway, back to your channel: That was a timely battery Tal used on the B file with the two rooks and the queen. Your channel= Good stuff without fail!
Tal is so great x when talking about commentators. I don't recall what game it was in this WCC but Tal said about the commentators choosing another move that Botvinnik's one that "they have no Idea of what they are talking about " ^^
14:24 -- Botvinnik's position here (prior to the example g-pawn move) is not only perfectly fine but favored to win if Tal screws up...so long as Botvinnik finds the one move that thwart's Tal's ongoing attack: Ka8 -- after which the discussed Rxa3+ no longer works because, following pawn takes rook, the queen cannot check the king in the corner from b6. If Tal moves Qb6 anyway, then Qxe2 (Botvinnik grabs a free knight and defends a6). Given that it's only a three-move calculation with few moving parts, Botvinnik must have been in severe time-trouble to blunder Qd5. ...Following the prudent (but unplayed Ka8), the Black queen and rooks are locked in defense, but only so long as all four of White's pieces remain in their current positions. Only the material on the king-side can moved. So, Tal would have to play h3 (to prevent Ng4, and h3 is his only move arguably leading to a draw), g5, Kh1 (and the two kings are now similarly-oriented regards their nearby pawns). "Safe" king-side moves exhausted, now Rc6 (challenging), Rxb7, Qxb1+, Qxb1, Rxa7, and Botvinnik has two rooks for a queen in a drawn position.
Botvinnik kept on grabbing the pawns but I could feel Tal was winning with his insane battery of the rooks and the queen. Shows you how chess is more about the king than the material.
Botvinnik's decisions at various points which seem surprising are explained by taking the psychological factor into consideration. He knows that Tal is superior to him in tactically rich positions so he keeps playing to avoid those positions relying on his positional play to persevere. The problem with that approach is he has to make positional compromises which eventually results in Tal having a big enough positional advantage to win the game. In their second match Botvinnik came prepared specially in the opening to avoid such situations and after the opening followed a middle road between complications and allowing Tal too much leeway positionally.
Is it me or is Tal's gameplay the closest to alpha zero's ? Maybe that's too much, let's say that if you watch alpha zero, and ask yourself who is the human that plays more like him (it?), it will be Tal right ?
Alpha zero closest human resemblance might be bobby fischer i guess,since tal's style of game is to complicate things on the board and make people blunder,but alpha zero played with precision and simply killing your pieces 😂😂
Tal's style wasn't to count on your opponents to blunder after you go crazy, it only looks like that because after you know the way anything else looks like a blunder, even to GMs's god stockfish, after u see its games with A0 SF seems to dumbly blunder its games and fall for A0's tricks
16:22 It's considered better to take the pawn with Rbxb6+, because Raxb6+ Kc7 Rc6+! but Kd8, you don't have to capture the rook with your Queen Qxc6, it's losing for black. And after Kd8 there's much more complications for white, Rbxb6+ makes it easier to win for white, than Raxb6+. Here's an example Rbxb6 Kc7 Rc6+ Kd8 Rxc8+ and there appears a possibility of checking the king on a 8-th rank Ra8+ and there's no defence against checkmate if you won't give up the black's queen for the rook. FEN: 1kr5/1p1r1pp1/R3pnp1/2Pq4/Q2P4/8/4N1PP/1R4K1 b - - 0 1
One of my favorite parts of your videos is your awesome dog. I got a puppy six moths ago, Bull Terrier, she’s crazy, a handful but my family loves her to death and she Us.
It would be nice to see the times displayed somewhere. I'm sure that's kind of a nightmare to incorporate, but even if it's the overall time or type of game, that would be awesome.
That move 11. Qa5 was a very tricky attack on bishop, I enjoyed this move a lot, won couple of games by surprise moving the queen like this but unfortunately Tal saw it...
Thank you Agadmator for one more nice video. I always watch all you videos :) Really good idea to put book's situation, as in the previous video :) Another thing. It's the first time I noticed you saying for to times "...knight moves TO HERE" instead of said the name of the square. :) I noticed one new think in this
If I win the lottery, I pledge to donate to Agadmator:
A set of soundless furniture covers
A case of premium dog food
An autographed picture of Tal
1 senzu bean
That senzu will come in handy during a tournament.
Some batteries for his LED lighting?
how about u just simply donate the best amount you can? lol
Dustin Johnson oooo
fuck is a soundless furniture cover?
What did we even do to deserve Agadmator in our lives and him fulfilling our desire to watch a Tal vs Botvinnik game every day 😭
Rishav Sen he seems very passionate in the video, I think he is also very enjoying his moments analyzing and commenting in this WCC series
Agadmator is fanatastic, we are so fortunate that he has gifted us with his incredible talent to explain complicated positions in such an
understandable manner! Thank you Antonio!
I don't know what we did but he blessed us and every time I open up TH-cam my eyes look for his videos.
firendable oh sorry for offending you supergenius. I am surprised that your even tuned in here
firendable you are entitled to your opinion but you are in the small minority and wrong
I’m beginning to think naming ur kid “Mikhail” grants +500 rating
Ace coment, mate!
Eastern european names in general give an immediate +500 Mikhail as the first name adds a bonus +100
Pls don't give me ideas
Confirmed. Play better than all my friends most days.
1:08 Caro-Kann Defense: Classical Variation: Very Sharp Variation
Lol
Is that a One Punch Man reference ahah
The “Magician” lives through you Agad.
LOVED the picture with Tal's commentary out of his book. This is what makes your videos the best @Agadmator
"Even though the move was seen as “Terrible, Anti-positional, Incredible, " the engine likes it". Haha.
4:43 "The engine actually likes it"
Tal the Magician was almost an engine
Like most people who enjoy chess and learn a bit about the players, I've always enjoyed Tal as much for his personality as for his style and creativity. I'm really enjoying this series because it is also revealing to me just what a genius and gentleman Botvinnik was. Botvinnik's playing style might not have the "wow" factor that some of Tal's games do, but it was just so solid.
In order to defeat Botvinnik, other players really needed to come up with some original and wonderful tactics.
Also, Agadmator...I've noticed you have zero games on your channel featuring Max Euwe. You've mentioned him, but there are no games of the former world champion here. Yet.
That's some real dedication showing us those wonderful words by Tal. Absolutely loving this. Paused the video & read the entire thing shown in your previous video as well. It also really shows how much one has to go through to become a world champion (even Tal) when most people these days just casually talk about grandmasters & their titles passing judgements about who's the greatest etc etc. Really appreciate the in-depth analysis 👍🏼👌🏼😎
So Tal intuition is basically what modern chess engine have in mind today...
6:25 Botvinnik immediately goes Qc7 after thinking for 30 minutes. 😛
Immediately here implies the very next move, not later.
I love when you include part of the book!
This game reminds me of
“Complicate and they will blunder”
14:25 “the idea is checkmating Botvinnik of course”
You mean there's a chance the engine might like one of my moves? They are antipositional and incredible as well.
I'm waiting for the day one of my sacrifices get engine praise. "Incredible, brilliant, competent!" it would say. Xd
Tal’s play violates my understanding of the game
Hivlik same here...but he is my favorite player...
Tal plays crazy move:
Me: What the hell!?
fancy meeting you here
That's the brilliance of his games. I'm not a very good player ( rating 900 tops) and I can't calculate lines very far.
But I probably would play some moves like tal without knowing it. The more we know about chess, the more cautious and less experimental we become. It's like he combines the innovation of a beginner and the brilliance of a master.
there are 2 typs of move, theoretically move and Tal move
I like the way you referenced tal's book for some inputs on the moves
referred*
fahIm M_ No referenced is correct
Yes its good quality content
So Tal played f4 because he wanted to see a movie and finally he succeeded! A great game by Tal, thanks for uploading!
Nikad nisam pratija nijedan kanal ovako dugo i svakodnevno.. tnx
So, Tal finally managed to brake Botvinnik's Caro-Kann defense! Great, great, great grand magician!
Greetings from Brasil!
Amazing! I love these sharp tactical positions. I'm working very hard to improve my tactical skills. I noticed the more complex the position the more likely it is for players to blunder which only favors those with the better tactical skills.
Today I defeated someone much higher rated in a sicilian dragon at the local club, classical time controls, because I kept attacking while defending. We both made mistakes but I think I essentially wore him down mentally after creating so many complex positions. After the game he was surprised I was rated several hundred points lower than him. lol
I didn't even know that there was such a strong player a Mikhail boltvinnik before this chess game series
Kush Singla He was third highest rated ever on chessmetrics after Fischer and Kasparov..
Only on the 1 year peak rating he is ranked third, not on the other categories. But still surprisingly strong. Certainly a top 5 player.
That is simply not true. It is widely recognized that the soviet players were the strongest players overall, there were so many soviet world champions. Even today there are tons of Russian GMs. It was a huge deal when Fisher broke the trend and became world champion, because the soviet players were so strong. You go on about mutant supermen... Nobody believes that chess players are mutants.
Ok, you view chess through a political discourse. Thats fair enough, but I certainly have equal respect for all the greats of the past. Its 2018, I don't really care if someone was communist or not. I study these old games to learn about chess, not to learn about political history. I study all of the greats. But style is also such an important factor for remembering players. Think about combinational masters like Paul Morphy or Alekhine in opposition of positional masters like Lasker and Capablanca. So Tal will always be more popular than Botvinnik, because of his attacking style. Same goes for Kasparov and Karpov. Karpov is more recognized for his defensive positional way of playing, while Kasparov was known for his attacking ideas and innovations. Personally I like all of these players, but it noticeable that videos about Tal or Kasparov get more views than say Botvinnik or Petrosian. I certainly agree with you on some level, but don't rule out playing style, is all I am saying.
Ron Maimon, you're telling that Botvinnik was communist like he has a choice. He lived in the age of Stalin. There were up to 80 000 000 people imprisoned due to someone told they are not communists
Thanks Agadmator.
Happy to see Tal winning a game after long time in this series.
15:20. This is the wallpaper on my phone. I went over this from a magazine. Just brilliant.
Ma kakvi Hikaru, kakav Gotham chess, kakvi ovi oni…samo Agadmator! Ulipsas mi svaki dan sa jednim videom, a nekad se zalipin i na njih 10! Svako dobro! Keep up the good work.
Amazing game. Thanks agadmator!
Considering that I know quite nothing about chess, I can still enjoy these videos. You make top-level class chess very understandable and fascinating, even for newbies like me. It's pure witchcraft ! Bravo Agadmator !
I’ve learned a lot from the Tal v Botvinnik games. Win or lose I learn something each game from each player.
In his fine book The Seven Deadly Chess Sins, GM Jonathan Rowson devoted some pages to this game. After 31 Bxc6 (!! - "a stroke of practical genius." - Rowson), Tal's comment was "It is regrettable that white has to part with his bishop, but the threats to the d-pawn force this. As compensation, White gets some freedom of movement for his rooks." Rowson: "These are not the words of a man riding the wave of his own ego...What is so admirable is that Tal shows so little attachment to the gem in his own position and such keen awareness of what the moment required...If he had played 31 Ne2, he would have acknowledged that black was setting the pace and thus put Botvinnik at ease, but Tal insists that the tension be felt by both players."
Tal ------ A soviet titan. Master Radic, your Tal games' analysis always motivates me to learn more. Especially more Tal games. Thanks
This is amazing!!! and its is even more amazing to those who have read "Tal-Botvinnik, 1960 by Mikhail Tal" you do capture the essence.
Let alone other chess books........... I would like to show my generation 'the book' that has exact words of agadmator during his lifetime chess analysis............
Wow.. this delightful.. agad just uploaded another tal vs botvinnik game 😀😀
Finally a satisfying game!
Love your videos agadmator. Keep making more series like this
When reading the headlines i knew immediately it was the f2-f4 move.I have read his book The life and Games of Mikhail Tal , an amazing book. Nice to see that you use some commentary out of it.
This is LONG, LONG overdue. Agadmator, I love your channel! I've been watching your content for roughly three months now upon discovering your channel. I live in the United States. I am no better than an amateur chess player, but your game analyses are so fun and very insightful to watch! I am also an amateur vlogger doing a TH-cam series on the upcoming Russia 2018 FIFA world cup. I wish your country, Croatia, the best this summer! They have terrific chances as a dark horse, in my opinion. Anyway, back to your channel: That was a timely battery Tal used on the B file with the two rooks and the queen. Your channel= Good stuff without fail!
Damn, nice shout with Croatia at the WC
4:39 "Totally Anti-Positional but the engine actually likes it" - Agadmator
Tal: I am the engine ha ha ha...
The Drowning Hippo....there should be a movie with this title !
You make great videos, they are unique, and also it's amazing when you provide quotes from Tals book
This is legendary match between two monsters !
Thanq Antonio ~
Tal is so great x when talking about commentators. I don't recall what game it was in this WCC but Tal said about the commentators choosing another move that Botvinnik's one that "they have no Idea of what they are talking about " ^^
Wonderful notes from the mind of Tal.
Watching this again four years later. Botvinnik must have been feeling terrible after this game.
Lol...”now with this super battery on the B file “ 😭😆 Classic !
14:24 -- Botvinnik's position here (prior to the example g-pawn move) is not only perfectly fine but favored to win if Tal screws up...so long as Botvinnik finds the one move that thwart's Tal's ongoing attack: Ka8 -- after which the discussed Rxa3+ no longer works because, following pawn takes rook, the queen cannot check the king in the corner from b6. If Tal moves Qb6 anyway, then Qxe2 (Botvinnik grabs a free knight and defends a6). Given that it's only a three-move calculation with few moving parts, Botvinnik must have been in severe time-trouble to blunder Qd5.
...Following the prudent (but unplayed Ka8), the Black queen and rooks are locked in defense, but only so long as all four of White's pieces remain in their current positions. Only the material on the king-side can moved. So, Tal would have to play h3 (to prevent Ng4, and h3 is his only move arguably leading to a draw), g5, Kh1 (and the two kings are now similarly-oriented regards their nearby pawns). "Safe" king-side moves exhausted, now Rc6 (challenging), Rxb7, Qxb1+, Qxb1, Rxa7, and Botvinnik has two rooks for a queen in a drawn position.
Never knew that Tal vs botvinnik would be so exciting. Such a depth of positional play from both.
So glad you’re doing these videos!!!
suggestion - put the photos of the players on the side they are playing black on top - white on bottom - great site!
Botvinnik kept on grabbing the pawns but I could feel Tal was winning with his insane battery of the rooks and the queen. Shows you how chess is more about the king than the material.
Tal is just on another level entirely.
Your dog is hilarious when he flails around on the couch!
Jesus! I wish I could understand chess like you do! Great videos!
Botvinnik's decisions at various points which seem surprising are explained by taking the psychological factor into consideration. He knows that Tal is superior to him in tactically rich positions so he keeps playing to avoid those positions relying on his positional play to persevere. The problem with that approach is he has to make positional compromises which eventually results in Tal having a big enough positional advantage to win the game.
In their second match Botvinnik came prepared specially in the opening to avoid such situations and after the opening followed a middle road between complications and allowing Tal too much leeway positionally.
Everyday coverage of the 1960 world championship makes me feel like it is happening in the present 😂😂
Hey Agadmator, nice touch that you added an excerpt from Tal's book :D
Is it me or is Tal's gameplay the closest to alpha zero's ? Maybe that's too much, let's say that if you watch alpha zero, and ask yourself who is the human that plays more like him (it?), it will be Tal right ?
Not just you.
Alpha zero closest human resemblance might be bobby fischer i guess,since tal's style of game is to complicate things on the board and make people blunder,but alpha zero played with precision and simply killing your pieces 😂😂
Tal's style wasn't to count on your opponents to blunder after you go crazy, it only looks like that because after you know the way anything else looks like a blunder, even to GMs's god stockfish, after u see its games with A0 SF seems to dumbly blunder its games and fall for A0's tricks
fernando sardenberg kind of was.. his sacrifices are refuted by modern day engines. Its just hard over the board.
idk if that procced but he surely buged SF8 many times
Yesss I've been staying up for this. I can finally sleep... in 17min36s
Amazing game by Tal!! Love the guy
Seriously game of century.....loved dz
Antonio your videos are inspirational!!!
Tal thought in that 8 minutes to calculate f4 whether he would have time to see a movie with his wife.
I laugh hysterically 😁
He was always making moves on his wife!
16:22 It's considered better to take the pawn with Rbxb6+, because Raxb6+ Kc7 Rc6+! but Kd8, you don't have to capture the rook with your Queen Qxc6, it's losing for black. And after Kd8 there's much more complications for white, Rbxb6+ makes it easier to win for white, than Raxb6+. Here's an example Rbxb6 Kc7 Rc6+ Kd8 Rxc8+ and there appears a possibility of checking the king on a 8-th rank Ra8+ and there's no defence against checkmate if you won't give up the black's queen for the rook.
FEN: 1kr5/1p1r1pp1/R3pnp1/2Pq4/Q2P4/8/4N1PP/1R4K1 b - - 0 1
Love the comments of the book!
You really out here grinding man, great channel
The dream: Agad comes home in the evenings and shows us what he played in the candidates tournament that day :)
i will be sure to buy this book as soon as i can
16:30 Rxc6+ can't you play Kd8
no, rook takes black rook and c6
@@abgacg22 But you just retreat no ?
- " f2-f4 !... Pizza is on me, M. Botvinnik !
Your going to lunch early today... " (Tal)
you're
Talphazero continues the murder streak.
In just 16 minutes so many views, likes and comments! The video length is 17 minutes folks! Give us some time complete watching the video guys!!
Sorry, we're bullet players. We watch at 1.25-1.5 speed.
4:29
"Sorry about that"
Thats me after accidentally sacrifeced my rook that way and say sorry for rook
Incredible game! I really like this series
One of my favorite parts of your videos is your awesome dog. I got a puppy six moths ago, Bull Terrier, she’s crazy, a handful but my family loves her to death and she Us.
Best analysis ever
Your voice is very good 👍. You could have been a wonderful teacher.
#suggestion Can you make the series of the 1935 championship match between Alekhine and Euwe?
Very complex game, even for 1260+ player
1260? Not sure if funny or serious lol
i recently aquired a old copy of the book and am going to at some pont lern descriptive notation just for that book
At 16:31, if instead of Qc6 what if black play Kd8? dosn't that prevent checkmate and stops white's attack?
Nice punishment for the pawn grabber 😂😂
In that final checkmate pattern I believe it would also be checkmate if you move Qa7. This would save the rook without having to sacrifice it. :)
Is it just me or botvinik looks like an evil scientist from hydra
It would be nice to see the times displayed somewhere. I'm sure that's kind of a nightmare to incorporate, but even if it's the overall time or type of game, that would be awesome.
That move 11. Qa5 was a very tricky attack on bishop, I enjoyed this move a lot, won couple of games by surprise moving the queen like this but unfortunately Tal saw it...
Really enjoying the series!
But also make a series on the rematch
Excelente exposición 👌 ojalá pudiera hacer más vídeos con un Inglés fácil para comprensión de suscriptores latinos de cd Juárez Chihuahua México
16:28 after rook to c6 check , why not king to d8?
I hit like at the "Hello everyone,", never mind this game :)
Come on Man.. thats is just beauty
I wish Fischer and Karpov played a series under even terms.
Thank you Agadmator for one more nice video. I always watch all you videos :)
Really good idea to put book's situation, as in the previous video :)
Another thing. It's the first time I noticed you saying for to times "...knight moves TO HERE" instead of said the name of the square. :)
I noticed one new think in this
wow what a game. loved it thx
5:38 after pawn to a3 , pawn to e5 looks fun ...
No one comes to close to this guy in chess reviews... The tal of chess reviews.
And a totally confused Botvinnik
And many of us as well!
#suggestion bobby fisher vs rober Byrne 21 moves games.
Show capablanca , fisher , Paul Morphy games too .
After this tal botvinnik wcc series, plz also cover some other like karpov-kasparov, Anand-kramnik, etc
Please tell us about Sicilian defence and Evan's gambit, also tal's magic wanf