Cheap Spray Gun VS Expensive Spray Gun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I paint 2 panels with all the same products. The only difference is the spray guns used.
1 panel I sprayed the clear coat with a cheap gun. The other with an expensive gun.
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The area I live in the $150 gun is expensive & A $15 gun is cheap lol
Yep. EASTWOOD vs Harbor Frieght. Ill tae the harbor frieght one honestly. Paint will get f up overntime anyways
Same here
Right! 😂😂😂
yes same, in thailand expensive gun what can buy cost under 200$ and cheapen gun cost 40$ same shop.
@@brandoncaldwell95 most people wetsand anyway so no problem lol
Me: *stares at $10 Harbor Freight spray gun in the garage* so where do you fall on the poor scale?
I've used them on smaller projects with success. Gravity feed 12.99 gun. After painting my engine bay I simply threw it in the trash, it wasn't worth the time cleaning it!! haha
Lol
I did a candy paint job on my motor cycle and threw it after as well came out good though I even sprayed flake. No problems.
Shh It's ok spray gun he's just saying your affordable
That's what I'm saying its just paint and a car why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a paint job when some one can run into it a week later. That's what happen to me done all the hard work to make a some what show finish. Had it at the Grocery store and someone pushed a shopping cart into it on purpose. I had to work on to patch it up I could see it didn't match right to any one else wouldn't notice.
I was thinking more like some 20$ vs expensive one :)
Totally agree. But if you are a pro, you have a different definition of a cheap gun.
Those are Australian dollars dude.
@@christophermoody50 $150 Australian dollars even on our worst day and your best day has never been any worse than $50USD or so. At the moment it's closer to $85-$95 but it's very volatile at the moment
@@mister3722 If someone can't justify 50-85 bucks to buy a spray gun to paint your car, well I dont know what can i say. You'll spend more than 20 on body filler for God's sake.
Same hahaha
I have absolutely no need of an expensive gun. I'm not ever going to paint an expensive show car. That $150.00 gun is all I need. Besides, all the expensive equipment isn't going to help you if you cut corners on the body prep and rush the job. Bad prep will show loudly through the greatest paint.
That is why most professionals refuse to spray cars that are prepped by the owner or someone else. They dont want to put their name of the bad prepwork of someone else.
But for a pro or someone that is looking in to earning his money with is the 700$ is much better. The working time wil be reduced wich means the gun wil earn itself back over time since you can do more work in less time. Also a better spray pattern means nice coverage without doing a lot of work to it afterwards. Wich again is money in the pocket of the pro because less time spent on a job means more earnings.
I love the fact that your cheap gun is worth more than my entire spray set and part of the cost of my compressor XD
Right. Harbor frieght spray gun, and a compressor from an estate sale. Total, $150
wish we had Harbour Freight (and their prices) here in Australia...
@@mrmcbeardy9268 ya, yall get she short stick. Then again, what do you all expect from be Britain's criminal outcasts sent there to die yet flourished. 1 st itterally bought 2 paint guns due to the price. Each have different flow rates one with a regulator. Whopping $45 out the door for both.
@@brandoncaldwell95 is that English or hillbilly jibbly goop language
$150 stil expensive here. I use $20 spray gun..
I paint in a garage where there is always going to be trash in the paint, so the cheap gun works just as good since ill have to sand and buff anyways.
Red1ineRR I’m with ya there mate👍
What kind/brand of paint do you guys use?
Keep the floor wetted down with a water hose, it makes a huge difference in keeping trash from blowing up and onto paint. 👍🏽
Same here.
Me:
Spray CAN
Lol then it would be $5~ can vs $25~ can
Agree 💯 regarding practice and technique is more important than expensive gear!
Dave your videos are the reason I Choose to be a painter and body repair man for that Thank You For inspiring me to follow this Career path Thank You from Arizona
CheifCrazyBuffalo that is absolutely awesome mate. Great work.
I have been watching your videos for about 7 years now, and want say thank you brother.You definitely have helped close the gap between pro and diy+. Good to see you still enjoying your work and again thanks for your time and help.From San Diego California.👍
the important thing is the man behind the gun...!
And you're so good dude...!
no matter which gun you used.... :)
prep and temp and robot.
Dave, you are nothing short of awesome - and while you do reduce the gap between DIY and professionals, taking that fear away - it has also given me so much more appreciation for the trade, and how many variables one needs to control to do an awesome job.
Thanks heaps - great video *looks at his 5 in 1 air spraying kit he found under the house*
lol, i thought that 150$ is high price range :D
I painted my bike with a 12eur lidl spray gun. The paint looks absolutely great! I wouldn't say it's worse than 90% of the paint shops. Yes, in order to achieve good mist you have to reduce the volume of the paint quite a bit, and the spray pattern is small, so you would be painting much slower than the quality gun, but for a bike it's not much of an issue. On a bike you have smaller parts, no large flat areas and you wouldn't be painting for too long anyways. For large areas, like a hood, doors, etc it would be difficult to get no stripes.
I have to second that response from CCB. You are the reason I am capable of pulling off top quality paint jobs from a rattle can. I am stepping up to a spray gun soon. Thank you for your efforts and time put into each one of your tutorials. And 👍 on being a car guy as well. Dig the Subaru!
Thank you Dave - from Ohio in the United States.
Excellent video. I’m still blown away how well you guys paint upside down without everything flying away, though that must be a huge help with overspray.
Kidding aside, I’ve been looking at a lot of spray guns and am leaning towards the 3m Accuspray system.
When you painted the first one, you got some paint dust on the second panel, which had time to cure while you were prepping to paint the other, thus affecting the paint job
Never sprayed in a booth have you ...?
Ben Harrell look closely, he is not spraying in a paint booth. More like a regular room
markman63 3:41 genius.... your answer is there lol So ? You love those $12 HF guns too ?? lol Now take your foot out of your mouth...
Very hard to tell a difference only doing one panle , spray a whole car you will find the cheaper guns don't break up the paint as much and you will get runs easyer... This however is a great video to show that it truly does boil down to how skilled you are as a painter .
Great video! What was the brand and model of the less expensive spray gun?
Why would u use the same gun for base, wouldn’t u want to see how the metalics lay down with the cheap gun!!!??? Makes no sense, I understand the clear part, to see how the clear atomizes and lays down and to calculate how much orange peels ur gonna get but laying down metalics are as important
How do you know he didnt turn down the air volume/pressure on the second? I see lots of things wrong.
@Jeremy Hall, why would he do that? It would defeat the purpose of the video and he has nothing to gain from that.
Young buck it’s the result tho $700 I was like sh....
Expensive spray guns 99% chance you can get a part for it 10 years down the line ... cheap paint gun you are lucky to get a part for it at all . Expensive paint gun company has quality control in place .... cheap paint gun no 2 guns will have the same quality . Me ...... Tekna Pro Lite all day every day .
I know guys with very expensive spray guns and they haven't been able to find parts years later to the point where he found the same gun so he just bought it again. (airplane mechanic)
If you are a professional painter I can see spending a ton of money of top shelf equipment. If you pride yourself in doing great work people will pay extra for good work. That justifies the existence of these expensive guns. However. There are many of us who are hobbyists. We have day jobs that have nothing to do with cars. Most of us aren't wealthy enough to pay a shop 70k to restore a 68 Barracuda. Wealthy baby boomers have made those cars unobtainable. I have a 88 Chevy truck, 2000 MR2 Spyder, and a 87 Pontiac Fiero GT. I like these vehicles but no body is going to spend big money on them. So I do the work myself and do the best I can with the money I can afford to spend.
Great Video and you even give FREE lessons, God Bless you.
this dude olnyl tells the truth,its not about the Gun its the one who use it.nice chanel bro thnk you.
Cheap is ok for 1-2 panel,try to base on roof with that cheap gun
@Jeffery Wain pff for sure ..
Great! This is definitely my "go to channel" on TH-cam regarding painting. Keep up the good work!
Talking about cheap vs expensive how about the whole setup rather than just a gun. Would you always go with a compressor or do you think turbine HPLV is an option?
Just finished spraying my wheels with the 2Spray’s little brother minigun 😉👍🏻
Dave, your videos are excellent! I have found them interesting and informative. Please keep up your great work!
Well i have to say THANK YOU i did however pick the right one as the $700 gun at the begining before you started to spray
Although i do not feel Superhuman
thats awesome that u do lessons like that
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
What about paint up from underneath something. What type of gun would you recommend for that type of situation. From my understanding these work best pointing downwards using gravity
This sounds like a giant waste of time. Why not dedicate one gun per panel????
Those are the results I was looking for. Not the difference being a single clear coat application.
A great video thank you for sharing.👍👍👍🍺😁
Another quality video. Just brought some supplies from VG today. Did your course as well. I have learned so much from your videos. Thankyou. Keep them coming.
Hey Dave. Your videos got me started in beginning to learn Custom Paint. I first your video on repairing curb rash on wheels with rattle cans. I did the job and it turned out pretty well. I enjoyed it so much that now I’m learning to airbrush and applying my own clear coat with a mini gun. Thanks for showing me that I could give it a go.
Wonderfull video ... Very good information for beginners,
Really i like this thank u
I’ve bought a cheap gun for primer before but in a professional setting they just don’t last long.
It's back to the old question is a great painter with a cheaper gun or a average painter with an expensive gun is there a difference and the answer is the Great painter will always win out. The tool may make the job go faster or less work but it's the skill of the painter that will make the job what is best.
Good comparison,. What are the red &black charts in the background, labelled , Acrylic, 2K Clear over Base and 2K Solid? What is the breakdown?
fuzzypumper they are painted panels in different types of paint to show the different process and outcomes.
@@customspraymods Due to the overexposure and distance I cant quite the info on the both 2K posters. Are these posted somewhere else I see?
Sir - love your video's - I get on a high when I get a nice finish with my middle of the road Taiwan HVLP spray gun - BTW had a lot of f-ups - but that's how you learn
I was gonna make the comment myself, but you mentioned it yourself in the video with your little speech about variable between 4:25 and 5:00. The gun is more for the painter's comfort/preference than the finish. even with the better spray gun in a clean environment used by a pro, there will still likely be some minor issues that will need to be sanded and buffed out. And as a professional detailer myself, orange peel matching is another thing to keep in mind. It's sometimes better to have more orange peel in your finish and then knock it down slowly so it can match adjacent panels that haven't been repainted.
Overall I agree with you 100%. The better gun is only about 5% of the factors in the finish. Technique and experience is %80 of it.
Simple enough. If we have got more money we chose DV1 or wise vesa.
For the most efficiency I will chose DV1 but China's copy, it gets 99% of quality same as original...sure.
Expensive is because of different currency for each country.
I have 1 piece spray gun which is GTI Pro TE20. It is made in China but label is made in UK, this mean this is highest performance gun for export to whole country. I think UK gives copyrights to china
$150 is NOT a "cheap" gun! I thought you were going to use a Harbor Freight gun(or similar).
He lives in Australia and our local markets (Supercheap?) sell them for around $150. Cheaper on eBay I think. But that might have been a really obvious test.
What about a 20/50$/€ spraygun?
For home use, here's my $20.00 electric spray gun for home use.
Thanks for the invaluable info.👍
Because of your skill and experience I am sure you can adjust no matter how limited the equipment is, to get great results.
I've used 10$ 30$ 150$ and over 500$ guns. if you can't set them up right they are all useless to you.. I personally don't notice much a difference or any at all with cheap or expensive guns.. the cheap guns sometimes leak but they spray just as good. a good paint job will have to be wet sanded and buffed anyways so why waste the money on a gun?
I lay it down with a Matco $150 gun...the $650 Sata sits and collects dust lol...to expensive to rebuild 👍
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All guns can spray clear and lay glass, clear coat is not the reason you want an expensive gun. Breaking up metallics and Pearls to get the to lay right on a panel is where you spend the money to paint.
What is the minium air compressor hp, and tank size to spray a car in a decent amount of time? I'm struggling with this 3 gallon 1HP .
I sprayed at last 300 cars with a black widow. That's in about 4 months. 90% of that is car lot work. The biggest difference with an expensive gun is quality of life. My w400 bellaria is my main clear gun now because it sprays nice, but it's also extremely light.
Good to finally see a video that's not comparing a $10 gun vs $500 gun, but still there is a big gap between the two like $600 what about $75 vs $300 because most watching don't paint professionally and would care what a $700 gun can do. The title should have been Expensive Spray Gun vs Most Expensive Spray Gun.
IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ANYONE!
I want to get into plasti dip
Looking to buy an expensive turbine
9.5 psi should and i can i Still buy the gun from dipyourcar and pair them together as the ultimate plasti dip combo or
Can a turbine be too powerful?
Can any of these high end guns with the right nozzle (2.5mm in plastidip) be used np ?
Fonzi from plasti dip has mentioned there is better equipment out there but i shouldnt have to dilute anything etc etc
5.5 turbine with the 2.5mm nozzle gun comes from plasti dip sites
Fuji Platinum 5 is a 9.5 turbine with a silver highend hvlp gun
I dont care for the gun i think design wise im gonna get the dyc gun anyway
Im more concerned about turbine compatibilities
Thank you
yeah man i only can purches 150 gun morw the that i am sorry .i a not the pro spray .back yard spray 150 is plenty
for 700$ I expect a gun to levitate and spray itself while I observe and drink beer ...
what size good gun have nozzle ? my country all gun has only 1,3 and 1.4mm nozzle size no more have. expensive gun what i found all country cost under 200$ and cheapen cost 40$ if looking in hand thats gun all have same my eye, nothing has different, chep gun have 1.4mm nozzle and little expensive about 50-60$ gun has 1,3mm nozzle. what is good size `?
I have been doing auto body since I was 17 years old when I took night classes at the community college so I could paint my first car. The only reason to spend the money on a high dollar spay gun is they have wider spay patterns and are better at getting more material to the part. As far as quality of finish like this guy just showed after cut and buff you would never be able to tell the difference. So unless your are spraying an expensive paint or everyday expensive guns aren’t worth the money. The irony is it cost just as much to make a cheap gun as it does to make an expensive one. What you are paying for it the designing of the gun.
casiotechI I buy locally for a couple reasons. If there is ever an issue i can get it immediately resolved. Plus I don’t trust online paint retailers with premixed paints. You don’t know how old the product is, whether it’s been sitting in the proper conditions. Also don’t waste your money on so called higher quality name brand paints and clear coats like DuPont ChromaPremier. There have been 2 cars I have painted with what was supposed to be best and both vehicles 10 years later the clear coat is pealing. But cars I painted 10-15 years ago with Nason look like they just came out of the booth.
Pro gun at a body shop..I use the Luma exodus and sun light and love it. I use different guns sometimes for base.. just fyi the 3m performance and accuspray guns are way over priced if you’re just doing some diy work.
Perhaps you could give some more set up notes on the cheaper spray gun.
I find that when people are reviewing spray guns, they forget their audience and neglect to give their set up on the gun. I have a DV1 Base coat gun. I'm not a fan. That shroud over the volume knob is crap. I took it off. It just prevents me from getting the gun clean.
I normally shoot with a Tekna Prolite 1.3 nozzle and needle, air pressure at around 28 PSI or 2 BAR, Fan Pattern wide open, with the volume knob 8 full revolutions in. I start with a dust coat, flash, medium wet, flash, medium wet coat.
For the DYI'ers at home, providing a set up on the cheaper gun would certainly help out.
I have a Sata 5000 that never leaves my tool box. I have an Iwata Super Nova that never leaves my tool box. I have 4 Devilbiss Tekna Prolite guns and I can reproduce the same finish with each of them.
I also have a Sata Minijet 1000 that I use exclusively for touch ups. It is old technology, but is unmatched performance for a mini gun.
I have been on a mission to use ONLY cheap paint guns for show quality paint jobs... Lets just say that there is going to be some mad paint gun companies when my other channel & videos start getting uploaded when $40 spray guns held their own against $500+ flagship guns. . . Setup & technique is Everything !!!
Great video. Even now that I know the answer the panels still look indistinguishable but I'm not an expert and don't know what to look for. It would have been interesting if you zoomed in close and explained some of the small differences in the results.
Look son... you don’t have to convince me, the answer to your puzzle is simple.... the person pulling the trigger is what makes the difference!!!
Hi, just wanna ask about the material steps you are applying:
1. base coat mix with paint
2. clear coat
3. another clear coat for 2 times
Is it correct?
Because my english isn't good so I don't really get what you said in video. Hope you could help. ❤️
great vid, i have a question now... iam painting a bumper that i ordered from alibaba, my gun is a vapor 19000 $70 dollar special. the color is bmw black saphire, i can paint the base coat but should i just by 4 rattle cans of 2k clear from our local automotive supply store or clean out my vapor gun after shooting the black and spray the clear with it? it has a 1.4 nozzel. This will be my first attempt at a complete bumper and a m2 carbon fiber hood..
So... The "PC Lords virus" has infected to the car painters as well.. "my spray gun gives me more than 0.0058 millimeters area coverage than your cheap gun, you peasant"
I definitely see the value in a higher cost spray gun if you are painting cars professionally in a production shop, However if you are not spraying paint in a high volume shop where speed is needed there really is no need to spend $700.00 on a decent spray gun, Not everyone even has an expensive compressor that can build the volume of air needed to spray at the rate of a production shop, What I would like to see is a cheap gun compared to an expensive gun using a cheap air compressor, would you still get the same professional results? does the expensive gun even make sense in this scenario? All of these guys with a $10,000 air compressor set up with air dryers, oil separators showing us the results they can achieve all forget that the DIY'er doesn't always have that kind of equipment available to them while they are promoting those expensive spray guns!
For the beginner and novice the $700 gun isn't going to give better results. As the old saying goes " just because you have a bandana doesn't make you Willie Nelson".
Yep. Video not for me. $150 would be triple the budget. $700? The car I would spray is probably worth that much.
Granted I am a hobbyist however I am a quality expert in the manufacturing and aviation industries. What I never see addressed is what exactly is it that makes a $700 gun different from a $150 gun? Is it the needles? Needle bore tolerances? Air caps and fluid nozzles? Frame material itself seems to be unimportant. Maybe if some of you Pros talk about these actual differences it would make for better educated painters and purchases.
great video! I love the part where you explained you can get a great finish from either setup if you're a skilled painter. I am by no means a pro But I have worked in auto body and learned a lot after painting my civic 3 times. I use a cheap atp 6900 series spray gun. I bought premium tech base napa paint and clear coat. I painted my crx yellow. I spent days repairing my front fenders and using guide coat. even had to reshape the body line and pound out dent's. When I was finished I had two fenders that were soooooo beautiful. the yellow is amazing and I can still see blemishes and need to sand and polish. But they look amazing. the rest of the car looks good and has paint on it now. I love using a 3m paint liner spray gun setup. so easy to clean.
Your not paying for 1 time use with your gun... A more expensive gun has every part available and lasts longer your cheap gun is gone when it's gone.. Do that fifty more times... You will see the thinners eat the shit out of of cheaper.. Also I have both guns that cheap gun is handy.. Everything has a purpose you just need to see if price is justified.. You can get that exact same cheap gun for €60 delivered on wish.. Ask if interested.. Can find link
Just like the old timers use to say, it's not the Golf Clubs it's the golfer, it's not the bowling ball it's the bowler, sure better products work great but skill and experience is everything.
Hey man thanks for these videos, I get incredible value from them. I'm just a home project guy, so it's really important for me to know where to spend the money. I'm not in a production shop, so if I need to spend a couple of hours sanding and polishing that's no big deal, so my money is better spent on consumables, which is great to know. I've been watching for a couple of years now and love the channel, thanks!
The atom x16 (the cheap gun) is a mini gun, the DVI is a full size gun
Great video. Have a hood to paint soon, in white! I have done some small spray can jobs on some older cars of mine. Quality of finish was as good as you can get with a rattle can. No one ever noticed, but were always easy colours. I have nothing to lose so I guess its off to get a cheap gun, and order the product.
What was the Cheaper Spray Gun? Do you like the ANI 160S?
I also use a 20 dollar harbor freat gun which I take apart and fine tune. Nobody in my neiborhood can afford 700 dollar guns. Florida USA
Is it safe to say that a cheaper gun just requires more post-paint work to achieve a perfect finish? I'm looking into spraying my car but don't want to dump $1000 on a pro gun for at home use.
That's not cheap! A harbor freight 10.00 dollar gun is cheap. I have a sata jet and a harbor freight 10.00 gun and I use the harbor freight more than anything else. A real painter can paint in any environment or with any gun! Just ask the old timers who made works of art using hardly anything
There are several components to doing a pro job. One place I found that succeeds in merging these is the Magic Painter Method (google it if you're interested) definately the most useful info i've heard of. Check out this awesome website.
Spraying clear is the easiest part of the job and can be done with a $50 gun off amazon, but the basecoat can be a whole different story. If you are spraying pearls or heavy metallics, cheap spray guns can cause an unwanted texture effect in the basecoat that no amount of sanding and polishing on the clear will ever fix.
i painted my roof 6 years ago with a cheap spray gun, first time using a spraygun (very experienced with cans)..ppl dont believe i painted it xD
Thank you I want to paint my cabinets
Can I use this Spray gun for the cabinet? Don't want to spend too much money, On the budget, cause $600 on a spray gun plus the paint for that I get new cabinets lol
My friend I think you’re being a bit bias here. Why? In the second test you only showed the spraying of the cheaper gun and not the expensive one. Who knows how the expensive initially sprayed on the board. Once again why? Because you never demonstrated it.
I think the difference is really obvious even in the video. The reflections on the right panel look a lot sharper
Why would you just compare the clear coat results of the guns rather than just test the overall painting results?
*Alan wouldn't you use the same air pressure the expensive one suggested "1.5 bar" when using the cheaper one?
I used a 12.99 gun from harbor freight on my engine compartment once and it came out beautiful.
Free lessons? wow, most likely you are the way far away, 😐 I want some lessons but I'm in The Bronx☹️😫😫
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My favourite paint videos. The guy is pleasant, polite, cheerful yet very focused. Excellent
Hi can somebody tell me witch spray gun can recomend one for primer and one for painting I'm looking but no expensive gun😊😊☺
A good painter can use either on a solid color.
But a very nice atomizing gun will lay out metallics in a much better way. Cheap gun= clumpy modeled metallics and pearls.
150.oo is cheap damn habor freight is cheap 20.oo paint with one of these
This could have been so much better if you had gone to Bunnings or supercheap and brought a $20 gun as a guy that isn't a professional spray painter the $150 dollar gun seems expensive to me i currently use a $20 gun that i find ok and have decent results and this dosent help me with the question should i upgrade please go again with a gun that is actually cheap
Get video and info!!! Thanks!
Really great video. What spray gun is that cheap one? Any cheap one you would recommend?
Can I know the name of this color , Nd is there is a color code?
They do not look the same. The more expensive gun gives much more clear & atomization on the fender and on the touch, but it seem to look like that gun could be adjust a little bit better, like highering the fluid nobb and lowering a little the fan a bit and giving it 3 coats. But not even that will make a difference, the truth is that the expensive gun is much more supperior paint gun indeed.