REVIEW - Why the ROLAND TD 27 DRUM MODULE is better than VST - BEST SOUND SETTINGS

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    In this video, I'm guiding you to build your dream kit, and to get the best possible sound out of your drum module. This is a comprehensive, detailed tutorial to help you guys master the Roland TD 27 drum module
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  • @Drumaastra
    @Drumaastra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Guys, I have bought Adrien's preset, I am loving it. I have the VSTs and other presets. But I feel Adrien's is the best in terms of simple 4 presets of what you need Vs the load of presets choices, pretty much you can use in any covers.

    • @antioquia0
      @antioquia0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How much did you pay? It says 25,00€????

    • @kylieshanesther
      @kylieshanesther 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried it on multi track recording on your daw? Does the toms sound the same as in the current video?

    • @kcampbell3045
      @kcampbell3045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antioquia0 Euros are written with a comma to denote decimals instead of a period. So 25,00 Euros is roughly 27.39 in U.S. dollars.

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just want a drum module that has a 100 different drum sets that all sound like the best acoustic drum sets in the world right out of the box with no adjustment necessary. and then you just spend your time pulling your favorite sounds and designing your own custom kits. Roland has been making electronic drums for way to long to have such crappy sounds right out of the box. especially when other companies are making great realistic drum sounds.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I can understand the need to get a better out of the box sound, but man, here are things to consider : Roland has the best triggering on the market, the best pads, the best drumming experience, the best feeling. yes you have to tweak the sounds, but you know, if you buy an acoustic drum, you have to spend time tuning it to get a good sound out of it, even 6000$ drum kit doesn't good out of the box. Again I understand the frustration, but you can get huge sounds when you put the time or buy presets.

  • @Es-ch3nn
    @Es-ch3nn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adrien ... Did you REMOVE your website ?? I was hoping to download your presets.

  • @michaelschack
    @michaelschack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Adrien, you HERO! Superbly produced and very accessible explanation for anyone who thinks using VSTs might be ‘better’. It certainly isn’t. La grande classe, ce vidéo!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Merci mon ami! YOU're the Roland Hero ;) Take good care !

    • @apradel
      @apradel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cette

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've seen you comment that the dynamic range especially, is better than VST's. For me it's been the exact opposite. I haven't used the newer modules, but a TD-11, 25 and 12. All three of these did not give me anywhere near the same dynamic range as EZDrummer for instance. I'd imagine SD3 would be even better. You may be right with the TD-50/27 but i really didn't like the dynamic response on the older Roland modules.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thanks for your insights. Well, It can't really be the opposite.... If it is, you might want to check out the settings of your drum module. I have own the TD 9, TD 12, I still own the TD 25 and TD 11 so I know them, the sound is a bit old school but the dynamics should be great. The TD 17, TD 27 and TD 50 are completely different, the whole engine as been improved so it's a whole other world. AND the fact that they have now digital pads brings it to an unmatched level of dynamic and expression. THO, I'm not saying vsts are bad, SSD5 is great, SD3 is great, tho it requires a strong computer. And man, by no means I'm trying to encourage you to NOT use VST, especially if you like them. What I'm trying to say is that, now Roland has got some really strong drum module, and I think people are using 20% out of it and switch immediately to VST, and what I'm trying to do, is to help you guys understand how you can stick with your drum module, taking advantage of the great dynamic range + helping improving the out of the box sound to reach your personal tastes. Because to me, the feeling is way more accurate out of the drum module, going trough VST will make you loose no just dynamics but some playability. But at the end of day, you should play what makes you happy man :)

    • @tronlady1
      @tronlady1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Adrien-Drums this is one of the best replies I’ve ever seen on TH-cam ❤

  • @theCountOfTotal
    @theCountOfTotal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the TD-27 and I was immediately disappointed by the poor sound quality of the majority of the stock drumkits. Of the 60+ available after the latest update, there was exactly 1 kit that at I thought sounded acceptable: studio A. I have bought and installed the presets from drum-tec and I still was not convinced. Everything sounds flat and electronic, and i don't even consider myself as an audiophile. This is terrible if you know that at this point I have spent over 3000€ for this setup. Roland has definitely disappointed me.
    I definitely did not want to spend another 2000€ or more for a td-50 module so I opted to buy Superior Drummer 3 and a USB-C cable and connected it my old decommissioned macbook. And I have to admit that the difference is day and night! There is no perceivable delay and most of the kits are superb and professionally produced. The biggest downside I think, is that you need to have a laptop open while you play but that is something you surely can get used to. I'm using it for half a year now and I most certainly don't want to go back.

    • @1rcproductions
      @1rcproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you purchased Adrien's presets that he mentions in this video? Based on the videos I have listened to his kit sounds the best in comparison to the other available custom/downloadable kits for the TD-27.

    • @theCountOfTotal
      @theCountOfTotal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1rcproductions no i haven’t. Only found this videos months after I watched Adrien’s vid, and at this point i’m not really tempted. Could be that these presets are solid, i don’t have an opinion about that… and my current solution is good so i don’t want to spend any money for a while ;-)

    • @1rcproductions
      @1rcproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCountOfTotal Yeah, I see your point. I am looking for a kit I can use in smaller venues and like the looks of the vad506. Was about to give up on the td27 until I heard Adrien's presets. The td50 sounds better to me but the vad706 is beyond my budget. Also the digital hihat seems to be very nice on the vad706. Arrrrrrggggghhh!

    • @theCountOfTotal
      @theCountOfTotal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1rcproductions i feel your pain. I would go for the vad506, try adriens preset and hope for the best. If that doesn’t work, you can always buy the td-50 module later. Costly but probably worth it. The hihat of the vad506 is descent so you can keep it for a while and upgrade at a later stage.

  • @rite2mukund
    @rite2mukund 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for these videos !! They really help a lot in understanding the module and the sounds that can be achieved !
    Can’t wait for the recording video as I’m really having a tough time setting up the Multi track recording. Looking forward to your next video and I hope you release it sometime soon :p
    Cheers from India !

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your feedback! yes I will do my best to do it within the next 2 weeks :) What are your issues with the multitrack ?

  • @dillonhomem
    @dillonhomem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know how the ATV edrums stack up against the TD-27?

  • @donotlookdown3743
    @donotlookdown3743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thanks adrien... u are a great drummer and you helped me so much!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I could help buddy ! thanks for the feedback

  • @TheeDrumWorkshop
    @TheeDrumWorkshop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great overview and tips! I'm looking forward to eventually getting one in to develop for, was great to have a good look at the new menu and workflow!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks buddy ! Let me know what you think when you get it ! you have great content, keep on going !

  • @reinardussuryandaru4834
    @reinardussuryandaru4834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this review my man. Been followong your channel. Good stuff

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support my friend

  • @unclefish
    @unclefish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sound presented atthe beginning don't sound good at all (in my opinion). Just the usual Roland artificial maching-gun drum sound. I'd never use this for anything but when i'm practising on my own and i'm too lazy to switch on my computer.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To each his own man, I love the sound I get within the drum module

    • @unclefish
      @unclefish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adrien-Drums Sorry, i think my comment may sound a bit offensive. It wasn't meant that way. Glad to hear you like the sound.
      I definitively want to get this kit because of the position sensing features. But I'll most likely use it with an external drum library.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No don't worry it was not man, my main point is that, if you take the time you can really create a sound that you will enjoy ! BTW, here I explain how to improve the sound with samples : th-cam.com/video/yHD3GSDT2e8/w-d-xo.html what do you think about it ?

    • @davethegun
      @davethegun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree they just sound like hollow repetitive electric drums... some of the Vsts sound faaaaaar more natural

  • @DrRECM
    @DrRECM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU Adrien for this excellent Intro to the TD27. I was so disappointed about the modules' sound, but now I understand it cames RAW when new, and needs just to "photoshop" it in detail.
    I have one question. Somehow I lost my XSTICK sound for my snare. I've tried "everything". I think it is actually something with the sensitivity of the RIM as I can make it (stick-)sound but doing uncomfortable manoeuvres with my left stick. Any idea? Merci en avance ; )

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly !
      Hum, that's weird. a couple if things to check out, make sur H&R is engaged and that you have a sound assigned to the rim. and check out the sensitivity and rim gain

    • @DrRECM
      @DrRECM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks! Done, yes. The problem was the trigger sensitivity. Keep on!

  • @betunizer
    @betunizer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I.m new in electronic drums. In td27 you can charge wavs created by yourself to the pads? something similar than the spd-pro. And can you tell me how is the quality of vibrophones, marimbas and kalimbas?? Thanks in advance.

  • @boristubeti6776
    @boristubeti6776 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i downloaded your presets ages ago and lost the instructions on how to install them. Can you help please?

  • @williamperri3437
    @williamperri3437 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey man, you still play and live this module? It does sound great and if it’s as easy to use as all the other Rand modules that’s a huge plus.

  • @boristubeti6776
    @boristubeti6776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to get that 80s snare sound? Do I use a room or a digital reverb? And do I apply it on just the snare or the entire kit? Reference: Here I Go Again by Whitesnake

  • @khairioo
    @khairioo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey..just wondering could we set the snare strainer on/off while playing?..any shortcut to do that?

    • @foxfmx117
      @foxfmx117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roland makes a foot switch where you can toggle thar back and forth.

  • @mauribatero
    @mauribatero ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I’ve had my VAD 506 for 2 years playing every day for 8 months a year, spent 5.000€ including hard cases.
    In that period of time I had to repair both cymbals and hi hat, a tom, and now my module suddenly stops sounding wile being on.
    Is this happening to anyone?
    I’m really disappointed with Roland, this is not a professional instrument.
    Thx.

  • @ThePeps1776
    @ThePeps1776 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Adrien-Drums my son (12 years old) is new to the TD-27 module and would love to get that rim sound that you play at 8:28. Would you mind sharing the name of that sound? Also when you turn off H&R does it do it for just the drum you are on or does it effect all the pads?

  • @DarrenX9
    @DarrenX9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I respectfully disagree that any Roland drum module can be better than VSTs, regardless of programming. Once you try VSTs you'll never go back.

  • @MarkuzP66
    @MarkuzP66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "....TD 27 DRUM MODULE is better than VST!" :-) )))) I consider that a very risky statement.

    • @DrumRoody
      @DrumRoody 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a bold statement, cotton.

    • @MarkuzP66
      @MarkuzP66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DrumRoody what does that mean🤔?

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 I like to live dangerously ;) All kidding aside, it's a provocative statement to encourage debates :) Tho, when I practice, I would choose the drum module everytime. The dynamic range and triggering are 10 times better than VSTs.

    • @michaelschack
      @michaelschack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A very risky statement? Adrien is absolutely right : people are buying themselves/investing in a very capable, fast and fully equiped module, but throwing all its possibilities in the bypass trash to go slower with less feel and quasi to none positional sensing either. And using vsts actually sabotages the possibility to get to know your module better and become your own best drum sound designer. It’s a shame so many don’t even open the manual....

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agree. Vsts are great and they serve a purpose, but they also have limitations. I find it very frustrating that people don't take the time to understand how powerful those module can be, and as you said it allows you to build sound engineer skills, that will make you a better musician!

  • @MR-vg7yn
    @MR-vg7yn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really look forward to checking out the TD-27 soon, but I'm still _very_ skeptical whether it can keep up with a good VST like Superior Drummer 3, to be honest. Currently, I'm using a TD-11 with SD3 and... well, with good sensitivity settings for your triggers, I really don't see any issue with the dynamics in SD3. Quite the opposite. Honestly: Anybody looking for a realistic acoustic sound with their older Roland modules should probably just get a good VST going and spend the time to get the triggering right.
    The one thing that still sounds off to me with every Roland module demo I've heard so far is that the toms still tend to do some machine-gunning every now and then... and the cymbal sounds seem very harsh, but that's something I'll check out when I get my TD-27 myself, might just be a wrong impression there.
    But from what I've seen so far in demos I would probably try to get the Roland module's digital snare and perhaps ride integrated into an otherwise VST driven setup for toms and cymbals.

    • @stephenhughes5156
      @stephenhughes5156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you're right. Did you get the TD27 or try it out at all? Still have the same opinion 6 months later?

    • @MR-vg7yn
      @MR-vg7yn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenhughes5156 Yes, my current setup includes a TD-27 with the digital snare and ride. I still use Superior Drummer 3, though. Honestly, the Roland presets are decent enough for a bit of practice and some of them are fun, but for actual drumming and getting the best sound, SD3 is just miles ahead.
      Yes, the the positional sensing on the snare is more accurate with the TD-27 itself and, AFAIK, there is no positional sensing support in SD3 for the ride cymbal, but the sound in SD3 is just so much better that I have to make that trade.
      Otherwise, I have absolutely no triggering issues.

  • @darrenleedrums
    @darrenleedrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Adrien, thanks for this video, extremely helpful! I've had a TD27 for a few months now but not really gone deep into sound editing. I was planning to buy a VST but I don't believe it will be necessary now with the endless possibilities within the module. Thanks again!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I could help buddy ! Have fun with it !

  • @mohsenmisdeeds6886
    @mohsenmisdeeds6886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for taking the time to go in to so much detail with the module. I recently bought the VAD503, this being my first electric kit, and was overwhelmed by the endless possibilities available. Please keep doing what you do.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! Have fun !

  • @stevenlee560
    @stevenlee560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi the link to buy the presets no longer works anywhere I can get them? thanks

  • @boristubeti6776
    @boristubeti6776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a preset in the style of Periphery? 🙏🏻

  • @itsgmani
    @itsgmani ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coming from an Alesis strike. The td27 is the best players kit I’ve ever played. I reduced the learning curve by getting a sound pack from eDrum workshop. It sounded great tweaked a little bit and I have my go to kit. Great stuff. Once Roland starts using sample libraries like Pearl mimic. It’s game over.

  • @johnfrith7884
    @johnfrith7884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU for sharing this

  • @TheLittleDB
    @TheLittleDB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Adrian, I bought your presets for the TD27 and I really love them!
    I only have one question: what do I have to do, to get an Dry odr Xtradry version of another kid that is already on my module? What settings do I have to change?
    Hope you can help me out and keep up the good work!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks buddy ! Hm that's a good question. I would first disable the room, and reduce the send into the overheads. Then I would adjust maybe the muffling, and adapt the eq and transient if needed. But that would totally depend on the kit.

  • @daviddelrio3183
    @daviddelrio3183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you adrien!!! this help me a lot! :D

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback ! feel free if you have any questions!

  • @drummerdaveshouse5848
    @drummerdaveshouse5848 ปีที่แล้ว

    The high hats seem to be a concern on those kits. Dod that one have a bottom cymbal? Need to have that there.

  • @billmarshall2536
    @billmarshall2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm considering purchasing your custom kits, but I was wondering how additional pads are handled? I've added an extra 14" tom and cymbals. Thanks

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Bill. Any other pads different from my configuration will not benefit from my settings. What you will have to do is to copy the settings I did for the 14 and past it on your second 14. And then for example change the size to 16. And you will be set. For the added cymbal it depends. I have added an additional hh China & splash. So if your added cymbal is for one of those you will be set. If not you can do the same thing as for the toms. Cheers

    • @billmarshall2536
      @billmarshall2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Adrien. Thanks for the quick reply. That should cover my needs. Looking forward to hearing your kits!!

  • @udiakuka7889
    @udiakuka7889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video! Personally, ive had a really hard times with vst. Ive tried AD2, SSD5.5 and EZD2, and ive had to many issues with all of them. For start, neither of them offers 2 zones for the crashes, which is really frustrating for me. Second, I couldnt make ghost notes at all. When i hit the drum softly, i just got the same sound but with low volume, and not really a ghost note. Moreover, the cymbals always were louder than the drums, setting up the hi hat was a pain in the a**, and positional sensing dudnt work at all... Yes, the sounds in general were better, but it was just unplayable for me. And im not even talking about the latency....

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man, you said everything ! I still use samples when I record cover because it allow me to choose snare and tom sounds that fits perfectly the song, but I never use sample when practicing !

    • @fVNzO
      @fVNzO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that goes for a lot of the VST's that aren't necessarily meant to be played with edrums. SD3 however has the most advanced editing capabilites for the digital snare and hihat in particular. It allows you to tweak positional sensing, hi hat ranges and so on. I think that if you dial that in perfectly, you're gonna get a great experience since the program is meant to be played with edrums as well as being a drum VST for music production. Strictly for practicing, the 0 delay and response of a drum module that sounds "decent" is probably the way to go but a great responding VST or a module like the pearl mimic, will still give you a fantastic experience.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will try SD3, but one advantage that Roland has that I don't think is replicable on SD3 si the multizone digital snare. Also, is the hihat triggering well, ?some friends that I have told me they can't make it work as good as the drum module. But anyway I prefer to practice without computer, and without latency, + after spending some time with it I now have a sound that I'm happy with so it's a no brainer for me. I'm not found of the pearl mimic, to me it sounds very "sample" so not much realistic when you play with nuances.

  • @ih2122
    @ih2122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, Adrien, very helpful and easy to follow... thanks for putting the time and effort into producing and posting... appreciated!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback man. Good to know :)

  • @randalscandal1588
    @randalscandal1588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's tragic that the stock sounds suck.

  • @williamperri3437
    @williamperri3437 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still think it’s better than VST?

  • @chicharones9640
    @chicharones9640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m having such a hard time with the hit hat. :(

  • @Eric-ro8bw
    @Eric-ro8bw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just ordered one of these. Its been my dream to own a Roland since they came out in the early 2000's. Thanks for making all these vids. Good stuff!

  • @darkslide6459
    @darkslide6459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are the link fore your sampels?

  • @frankpuleo2009
    @frankpuleo2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recently purchased VAD 506 a joy to play! But I was disappointed with the sounds. Luckily I found you’re video !!
    It was an amazing help for navigating the many options to improve the overall sounds.
    Again thank you ...Bravo Adrien..!!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I could help! Now you can have fun :) BTW I have just released a new video on the functions if your interested : th-cam.com/video/yHD3GSDT2e8/w-d-xo.html

    • @frankpuleo2009
      @frankpuleo2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @fartpoobox ohyeah it’s still time consuming to tweak the TD 27 sounds, but it’s probably faster to buy software!

  • @luisutil9070
    @luisutil9070 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What did he say?

  • @caroline3526
    @caroline3526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot, very clear review ! It gives a great overview 👌🏻🥁

  • @Crazy-Roland-vDrums
    @Crazy-Roland-vDrums 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Adrien Drums THANKS SIR for this video!!

  • @Memoreno94
    @Memoreno94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been looking for a video like this for a while. This is great! Thanks for making this!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the feedback

  • @denimxjogger8039
    @denimxjogger8039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Slay*ng man 🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤠🙏❣️

  • @antondubkov
    @antondubkov 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the snare sound distorted when hit hard? I own this module, and the snare sounds are one of the biggest disappointments for me personally with this module. There are no good snare samples to use for modern heavy music (maybe the module is targeted to jazz players, idk, but you can't play rock/metal with this. Importing own samples and layering is a crappy bandaid "fix"). It's impossible to remove this "buzz" of snare that they added with this module (td-17 did not have this issue). All snares sound thin and weak. (Great in-depth video btw, it was my "manual" to get familiar with the module, thanks for making it!)

  • @Sam-de2oq
    @Sam-de2oq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m thinking about buying a thomann mps 850 e drums, does anyone know if it’s good or not?

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For that budget you can nearly go for a TD 17, that would be way better. You can still look for second hands.

    • @Sam-de2oq
      @Sam-de2oq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow thank you!

    • @michaelschack
      @michaelschack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Thomann is not good. Stop thinking, go Roland.

  • @gregilll
    @gregilll 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adrian, what settings would you recomend on td27 for live band performance indor.
    Thanks

  • @SG80394
    @SG80394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi adrian, I have a question for you. If I don't want to use the usb ride cymbal (18") and the usb snare (14"), the snake cables have ride and snare options to connect simple pads? Thanks and greetings.

  • @stevengreen8402
    @stevengreen8402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your expertise in this video is amazing but your delivery is too fast for someone who is new to the tweaking aspect of electronic drums. A paperback manual that details all of your instruction would be amazingly helpful!

  • @pedrolsantiagosr5092
    @pedrolsantiagosr5092 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adrien, great stuff, plus you're a great drummer. Question, can we still purchase your samples? i tried but i can't access your website.

  • @dimisle
    @dimisle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One Question… TD17 oder the TD27? Is it with the Money? Thanks in advance

  • @Colognedrummerboy
    @Colognedrummerboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Adrien, your TD27 sounds amazing! In another Video you compared the TD-27 and the TD-50. Now we have the TD-50X. Did you have the opportunity to check the updated version? Is the TD27 still in the same class in your opinion?

  • @RickWalkerSaunders
    @RickWalkerSaunders 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, i’m from California, can i purchase your presets?

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you can! there is an english section on my website ;) cheers bro

  • @hellomynameistoy3770
    @hellomynameistoy3770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Adrian. You are great!
    Can you send me please
    The link
    To download your on preset
    Thet you make?

  • @Ripperx121
    @Ripperx121 ปีที่แล้ว

    I 100% agree with Adrien here the TD-27 is pretty sweet. I have SD3 and don't use it anymore since I got the 27. I am not a hardcore recording guy but man you can get some nice sounds out of this. I really like that I don't have to use SD3 anymore. Just another thing I don't need to worry about. Great video thank you!

  • @frankpuleo2009
    @frankpuleo2009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video such a help for my VAD 506 kit!

  • @TheMackcasper
    @TheMackcasper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought your preset how do I modify the snare it doesn't sound like this video

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey buddy. Are you the same person that sent me an email ? Don't worry I will help you with that by email. For now I can tell you 2 things : 1st, what you hear in my video is my preset, I did noting on the mix. 2nd, you have to know that your headphones or your speakers can have a massive impact on your sound (for example to much bass, or not enough bass, or arsh highs etc....). My headphone is a audiotechnica, what do you have ?

  • @carnacstone7309
    @carnacstone7309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    everything sounds okay except the snare, I don't get why they still haven't nailed it

  • @jonpowell4157
    @jonpowell4157 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if one could load kits,settings and midi songs that were customized for a TD-20 or do I have to start from scratch?

  • @davebags4576
    @davebags4576 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was super helpful for getting the sound I wanted, thank you for all the great tips and saving me time scouring the Internet for all this info.

  • @DanyMeyer
    @DanyMeyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this awesome video!!!

  • @rafaelperez6261
    @rafaelperez6261 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOLA DESDE MADRID AMIGO TE ROGARIA ECHARAS UN VISTAZO A UN TEMA Y AVER SI TE ANIMAS Bill Withers - Lovely Day saludos

  • @renanbonfa27
    @renanbonfa27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey @Adrien So does that mean that you can do all the equalization and mastering inside the module getting rid of doing all the work inside the DAW?

  • @Drumistry
    @Drumistry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video! Really helps me decide on getting this set!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go for it buddy ! Let us know what you think when you get it !

  • @markq23
    @markq23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    Have you a Link to your website?
    Thanks 😊

  • @josephgiarraffa6379
    @josephgiarraffa6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great

  • @vagnerbortoleto7846
    @vagnerbortoleto7846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats Adrien. Very smooth and friendly presentation. Impressive.

  • @suzanneandthecontenders
    @suzanneandthecontenders 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I start with a kit ex: Studio C and modify it and save it with a new name?

  • @antondubkov
    @antondubkov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, a must watch if you own the TD-27 module

  • @francoiswaterbee8376
    @francoiswaterbee8376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice tutorial! Thanks!

  • @davethegun
    @davethegun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    clearly does not sound better than vsts

  • @ChristianCarpesoChannel
    @ChristianCarpesoChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    6:58

  • @anthonycappoferri
    @anthonycappoferri ปีที่แล้ว

    OUTSTANDING video. Thank you for taking the time to make it! Echoing a question from another subscriber - would you say there is a dramatic difference between Gen I and Gen II of the 27? Thank you again for this truly excellent, in depth, and extremely insightful video!

    • @aaronrogalsky4167
      @aaronrogalsky4167 ปีที่แล้ว

      The biggest difference is that the Gen II set include the VH-14D high hat, which in my opinion is a dramatic difference. This high hate upgrade alone in Canada is around $1500. They open and close like a normal functioning high hat, and at $100 more for this set over Gen I is worth every penny plus more! I May bite the Bullet and get the TD-27KV2 this moment hahaha

  • @13572468991
    @13572468991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Adrien thanks for the details! I just bought my own VAD506 and this video really help me a lot
    like and subscript!

  • @lindonsiebel7008
    @lindonsiebel7008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if the roland td27 module is better than VSTs why are you using SSD 5.5?

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When practicing, 100% Drum module. When Recording 90% of the time VSTs, because they are more convenient to mix. I can change the snare if the sound doesn't match the song etc. So it's more convenient, but it way less good it terms of feeling, dynamics etc... The point of saying that THe drum module is better than VSTs is not to imply that VSTs are bad or sound bad. They sound good, but they don't feel as good as the articulations that you have within the dum module

  • @ericduvauchelle3582
    @ericduvauchelle3582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    super review and explanations. Very helpful. Also what headphones are you using?

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback Eric. I use audio technica ath-m40x

  • @victormalet7066
    @victormalet7066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vst are better than the TD-27 module because Roland stil didnt use small , random and subbtle pitch and tones variation wherease Superior drummer 3 did it ... So ... ? je ne comprend ton choix adrien mdr

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Je pense que tu dis ça par méconnaissance du module. Evidemment que Roland utilise tout ça et bien plus! Dans la snare, tu as je crois au moins 8 capteurs, qui selon l'endroit où tu tapes produisent des sons différents. Le moteur prismatique génère des harmoniques différentes selon l'intensité, la vitesse etc.... J'adore utiliser les VST, surtout pour m'enregistrer car c'est très pratique, mais le feeling la jouabilité n'ont rien à voir. C'est sur que les sons d'usines de chez Roland nécessitent d'être travaillé, c'est pour ça que je fais ces vidéos, pour aider les batteurs a apprendre )à ce servir de leur module plutot que de se jeter sur des VST et perdre en jouabilité. Parce que crois, une fois, bien réglé, c'est une tuerie!

  • @hugostos09
    @hugostos09 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is pure gold

  • @fabulouswrecks
    @fabulouswrecks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for the excellent video! I am loving this kit. I am comfortably porting multitrack audio to my DAW but would like to mimic the setup of having an overhead channel and a room channel. Is it possible to use, say, the master output as the room mic and the direct as the overheads? Have you addressed that anywhere and if not, that would be a great thing to post. Cheers from beautiful Vermont.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm good question, I would say that if you wanna do it you can, but you will have first to withdraw all the pads from the master out because they are natively all going through it.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    L'homme le plus classe du monde!

  • @audio197
    @audio197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you have the cymbals, hi-hat ride ex... running in stereo is it possible to bring the pan of the hi-hat more centre mix??

  • @CrappyProducts
    @CrappyProducts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Adrien, what is the complete settings that you apply in your hi-hat, would be great to see the whole thing. I struggle a lot with open/close when playing 16th notes, often doesn't recognise well the open/close

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I talked about that in one of my roland video or in the comment section. Check it out

  • @DrumRoody
    @DrumRoody 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To my ears the td 27 sounds better than the td50. Less (slightly noticable) but less machine gunning on the toms

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say it's hard to choose, I might do a comparison between those 2! But yeah the TD 27 has interesting functions that are not available on the TD 50

  • @badoanh
    @badoanh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does TD 27 has metronome flashlight mode or something like that to setup tempo?
    Thank you.

  • @ivandenis7918
    @ivandenis7918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super là même en français serai super 😀👍

  • @Caryl-Cantin
    @Caryl-Cantin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salut, je me permet de te poser une question en français... J’ai le module TD-27 depuis un peu plus d’un mois, j’ai réglé le son ROOM ON, avec des réglages magnifique dans mon casque!
    Le problème lorsque j’enregistre le son directement sur carte SD, le son est vraiment fade, plus aucune résonance!
    Est ce que tu aurais une idée??
    Se serait super sympa, car j’aimerai vraiment m’enregistrer avec la même qualité et le même son que j’ai dans mon casque!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tu as toujours le problème ? tu veux dire que tu n'as pas la room quand tu enregistre ?

    • @Caryl-Cantin
      @Caryl-Cantin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adrien-Drums Oui exacte, j’ai l’impression que le son est plat dans l’enregistrement! Alors que dans mon casque il y a une belle résonance!

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C'est étonnant, regarde peut etre cette video surtout la partie routing et vérifie dans ton module : th-cam.com/video/yHD3GSDT2e8/w-d-xo.html

    • @Caryl-Cantin
      @Caryl-Cantin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adrien-Drums Ok si je comprends, j'aurais un enregistrement bien meilleur si je passe sur mon ordi avec le câble USB plutôt que de tout enregistrer directement sur la carte SD? C'est peut-être ça qui me fait un son un peu fade...

  • @SalsaSoulsDanceCo
    @SalsaSoulsDanceCo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes thank you very much... as a beginner into e drums... you cut to the point showing such 'useful' info... i subscribed to your site, channel, and plan to support your incredibly useful information to help me get more out of my 506 as a practice kit...

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for your feedback man, I really appreciate that ! keep on rocking !

  • @theundercoverscene7247
    @theundercoverscene7247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very in-depth explanation. Love it! Also your video about multi-track recording was useful. Do you change EQ, compression etc also in post production (in your DAW)? And/or simply plug and play/record with the presets made within your drum module? Thanks!

  • @brandonyu9602
    @brandonyu9602 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hardest part is getting my hi hats louder. They just get lost in the mixing.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well you can do that with the sensitivity, the volume, or the EQ. Even the envelope ;)

  • @coopertube2769
    @coopertube2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I downloaded you user presets but it will not load on my td27. How do I use it?

  • @richardmiller191
    @richardmiller191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! You showed a lot of things you can do that I hadn't seen in other videos. You made my decision easy! Great job. Thanks for posting. I subscribed.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful buddy ! Enjoy !

  • @jameskujawski6651
    @jameskujawski6651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had be studying various Roland modules, 2Box; Pearl Mimic being out of the price range and limited. Manuals, videos & commentary revealed bare minimum.
    This is by FAR the best vid I've seen showing the COMPLETE editing function of the TD-27, so much so I cemented a deal on a module seconds after viewing!
    Much thanks to Adrien Drums and of course to Roland. (I am not a paid spokesman)

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for your feedback buddy ! Means a lot !

  • @josepmacarre2644
    @josepmacarre2644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tank you 👌

  • @minidolly77
    @minidolly77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top instrument ! 👏🏼

  • @AaRoN-xn2db
    @AaRoN-xn2db 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Adrien where i can download YOUR preset please ?? Thank you..

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      on my website www.adriendrums.com on the shop section

    • @AaRoN-xn2db
      @AaRoN-xn2db 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adrien-Drums Thank You..

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this module support midi 2.0 ?

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
      @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adrien-Drums according to the Roland website it does not. There is atm only one piano supported.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur Okay, maybe I'm not understanding your question. What would you need to connect to your drums with midi 2.0 ?

  • @jeromeluca6808
    @jeromeluca6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super vidéo merci !
    Dommage que tu ne l'ai pas faite en français pour nos amis qui ne comprennent pas l'anglais, il y a tellement peu de vidéo sur ce sujet en français...
    En tout cas, félicitations c'est super bien expliqué.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merci à toi! Oui c'est un parti pris... en fait 85% de mes vues sont faites hors de France, donc je fais pour le plus grand nombre ;) Je sais que c'est frustrant mais j'ai fait l'effort de mettre des sous-titres (ce qui prend beaucoup de temps :p ) Je réfléchi pour l'avenir à créer une chaine 100% Français cela dit !

  • @kylieshanesther
    @kylieshanesther 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HI ADRIEN! i wanted to buy your presets on your site but i would like to hear the sounds. can i just double confirm that the presets are the same one in this current video? thank you!!

    • @kylieshanesther
      @kylieshanesther 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      in addition to my QN, can i check if the recording in this video was done on multi track recording or master out thank you.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the presets on my website are the same :) Hm that's a good question... I don't remember how I recorded that but my best guess would be trough the master out as I didn't needed to have a multi track performance