I've been a lifetime drummer and have always played acoustic kits in all sizes. This kit has me very interested in electric setup,ones that I have checked out I found I can do twice the speed with half the effort. The head response is incredible.
I watched him in my country when he came for drum seminar..at 2006 He looked like a ‘Big Metal Machine’ and I don’t want to be convinced that he’s getting old.
Thank you Thomas my drum brother!! My wife purchased this kit for me on Father’s Day,.. and I need to here the capabilities of this kit being that I am a drummer for many years and want to practice WHENEVER I WANT and at WHATEVER TIME!! Thank you for the demonstration!! I’m about to rock out!! ✊🏾🙏🏽🙏🏽🎼💯🥁
NeewollaH * I recently got a used TD-12 and the toms used here sound a lot worse than the ones I use. There has to be better sounds than this somewhere in that module? I get that Roland has a certain sound which not everyone likes, but come on.
Karl-Fredrik Blixt Hagholm Roland latency is the best. no one in the E drum business can beat the quality in parts and feel of a Roland E kit. I have td11, td17, td25, and the td17 only beats the td25 in cymbal sounds and dynamics. Everything else in the td17 is very disappointing. Yes you can layer sounds and add your own ONE shot samples but you have to have high quality recording equipment to get that authentic raw crack from a snare. Or low end thud from floor Tom etc.... anyway this td27 sounds exactly like the td17. Fucking disappointing. Like I said it has awesome cymbal sounds and dynamics but it’s like when I started off playing acoustic drums years ago. I cared more how my drums where tuned and spent more money on a high quality snare than the trash can lid cymbals that I used. I would spend hours being super picky with how my snare and toms where tuned.
NeewollaH * Yeah, I like the feel (apart from the hot spots which are quite annoying), and it all seems well built. As far as sounds go, I am currently happy with my TD-12 (had a Yamaha DTXplorer before so big step up), but I will probably use a laptop sometime in the future. I will most likely not buy a more expensive drum module from Roland just for the sounds, it will only be if I need specific features or inputs.
They are all crap! They break with that level of strikes in a month, then you loose your kit for a month and out shipping cost for repair, for a year's time. Good luck repairing a year later without having to buy costly parts and licking into a decent pizeo mailed to you. The price of upkeep and aggravation of shipping time lost on the kit should greatly depreciate the value of sale. The second you buy this kit it depreciates 75%
Guy goes out of his way to tell you that the rag can withstand all kinds of playing and yknow i would assume durability wouldn't be something that they make compromises in when releasing cheaper kits. I own a td11 and i'm pretty sure there is no point to a durable rag if your cymbal's gonna die out less than a year later with not too frequent and gentle use.
I have this kit and TRUST ME it sounds better than this video portrays. It takes some fine tuning (on the snare especially) but mine sounds extremely realistic.
Same for tm6 pro you need to fine tunning the dynamic and threshold to get nuance, i play from light hit to very strong especialy for ghost note on snare.
I believe this. I think alot of people give Roland a bit too much flak. Yes they don't sound amazing directly out of the box, but they don't take much to sound pretty darn decent, and they are the ONLY BRAND that has the real quality of pads and cymbals. I have had Yamaha and Alesis kits and they just don't hold up to real playing.
@NegaArson I'm unsure whether this module has similar sounds to the TD07 module, but I have one, and most of the kits are pretty sweet sounding. Then again, I'm just a beginner, so it's my first electronic drum set.
First thing I did was adjust the sensitivity of the snare. I have the VAD306 and on my hardest hits was only reading 80%. This makes a massive difference to the sound of the snare sounding the way it should. I don’t know why but with Roland the snare is never correct out of the box but it is there!
Thomas lang is such a fun and talented(versatile) drummer and these drums sound great. I just ordered a set cuz I can't play my acoustic kit where I live. Finally I can play them like he does cuz when I tried them in the store and really started getting into it, they told me I was gonna have a heart attack 😆🤣 great video and playing 😎👍👏
It seems that machine-gunning edrums are some of most precious memories of the 20th century that Roland decided to preserve and pass on to our grand-grand children. The same league as the Beatles and the Moon landing.
It's 2020 and roland can't make a sound module that doesnt "machine gun." It sounds essentially like my TD 11 module that's over 10 years old. I just dont understand!
Yeah I bought a td17kvx quite recently and honestly other than having bigger pads and cymbals, there isn't anything standout here for me that would warrant the extra £1000 or so spent
@DP 91 He's an absolute legend no doubt. He's a great clinician and technician. I just feel like the word master gets thrown around a lot these days based on certain players technical facility on the kit. To be considered one of the true masters though, for me speaks to much more than technique. It's first and foremost about musicality and contribution a player has made to the broader music communitynot only drummers (I have not heard many great bass players, guitarists, singers, producers etc even mention lang). It speaks to the recordings they have featured on and the great live performances (with other musicians not solo) they are renowned for.
Just by a used Roland, Yamaha kit (you can find them for around $500) and trigger Addictive Drums or Superior Drummer. REAL drum samples that sound incredible. More than a few great albums I know of have been recorded using that software.
Everyone harping on the sound of the drum module..I own the TD-27KV and I love it. If you really take the time to dial in the sounds and mix it to your liking, you can get some really impressive results. Get in there and have fun!
I absolutely agree, there is nothing you can do to those sounds to make it sound good. For that kind of money it's still useless without using it as a controller for a GOOD drum VST :(
I love Roland hardware. I am just waiting for Roland to install Superior Drummer or anything more natural-sounding into their module then its game over. Sign me up!
Well, I use EZDrummer 2 with the TD17. It is a completely different world. SD3 is probably even better. But for the moment EZD is enough for my needs. I would argue, that the 10" pads of ATV are as good as the Roland ones and if you don´t care about money, DrumTec makes the best acoustic sized e-drums in my opinion. But I haven´t played the new Roland ones yet. Still, especially on the bass drum of Roland I dislike, that it is basically only a KD10 in a bigger drum shell.
I think superior drummer is owned by a rival company or affiliated with one that competes with Roland so I doubt that will happen. But Roland is too stubborn and stuck up to do that. They have a loyal fan base that will spend $400 on a pad that cost a few dollars to make. Piezos are cheap, made around 1800’s I think. I don’t love the hardware because I’ve had it fail on me and mistriggers. When playing in different environments it is effected no matter if the foam cones are new or old. Piezoelectric has brass and ceramic pieces that are effected by cold and humid temperatures.
All the guys complaining about the sound - check out Drum-Tec, they are doing samples for every Roland sound module which include a lot of real acoustic sets. They just sound amazing, I use one with my TD-17 and its a completely different experience compared to the standard sounds! They also have videos with sound samples on TH-cam aus well.
A '92 IROC-Z with brand new Pirelli tires...is still a '92 IROC-Z. Almost 25 years since the TD-10 and Roland still ain't figured it out. #RatTatTatTatTat
Yeah agreed, if you’re gonna have an electric set use it for electric sounds, not trying to sound like real drums. But it’s nice to see the tech growing though.
And for 3k.....geez. Not to mention, I had a Roland fall apart on me in the middle of a concert. That was about 15yrs ago. And the sounds still are the same...idk.
I don’t play drums but I love listening to top quality drummers like Phil Collins. This guy is a very good drummer but his review is so full of jargon that drummers would understand, it is incomprehensible to me.
I like the kit and all the pads. I just wished Roland would move into Present Time and allow full VST integration into the Module. So many great companies making good drum sounds out there. Not just sample import but full VST into the module, who wants samples with no dynamics? Most people will plug this into a laptop and use software. Roland kits do last forever and they are very reliable live and in studio.
Ok imma clear this up for you with two words, they can’t. And here’s why with Roland tuning and FX I’ve heard people say that type of think Roland does makes it to difficult for them to put in the VST they would have to make there own that’s what I heard atleast it’s becuase of all the FX Reverb tuning stuff like that
Ok and how would one achieve this? Please inform. I have a roland td50kv. How can i hook it up to superior drummer 3 in a live setting? Also will the responsive drum pads of the roland kit work with the software for dynamics and cymbal mutes and such? Please inform me..... Michael1982@myself.com
don't agree. cheaper models also mean less sensitivity, less dynamic pad "areas", and the likes. you need high quality, high-engineered pads AND a good sampler. a BS kit with SD3 won't cut it. otherwise what's the point of having 1000 dynamic layers when your kit will "read" only 2?
Honestly, the sound should be the least of your worries. Any built-in sound presets can't beat EZdrummer anyway, not even Roland VAD-706 module in my opinion. You can't really get anything better than Roland TD-27KV in that price range. It's not even a discussion, it's a fact. Roland is just far ahead of the competition. That's not just my opinion - every drummer will tell you the same.
I want to buy the Yamaha dtx8. Looks kick ass. But I've been between that and the td27. Have you seen the demos of the Yamaha? Does this opinion still hold true 9 months later? Thanks.
Thomas Lang is one of the most under rated drummers out there. And what Roland did was make the e-kit more compact and streamlined. Stop ragging on Roland. It’s a good strong company with a solid product. Alexa has really stepped its game up, check those e- kits out. Ekits have their purpose. And nothing compares to a true acoustic drum kit, but how many times do the cops have to knock on your door, or place of worship. Just sayin \m/
So you post this several days after most of the Western World mourns the loss of a great athlete. Thomas Lang is really good at drums. But he’s no Kobe Bryant. Kobe is a little stiff on drums nowadays. Actually he’s stiff on everything since his forced retirement. Maybe when Thomas dies he’ll be as good as Kobe.
Andrew Higdon you’re an idiot. Thomas Lang to drumming is what Kobe Bryant was to basketball, in my opinion. I was and am a massive Kobe fan. My comment in no way is disrespectful. It’s a comparison that is timely, despite the unfortunate circumstances of Jan 26, 2020. I was strictly comparing to great talents. RIP Kobe.
Dave MacLean good god man. I just though the timing and comparison were bad on your part so I made a bad joke, presumably comparable. Whoopsy I mean how can you compare a living and breathing great drummer with an athlete whose death is still fresh on the mind? I figured maybe you didn’t know Kobe had died or were saying that Thomas was maybe ready to retire. Ok so fuck me running. Maybe if Neil Peart was doing that demo, or compare to Michael Jordan. Jeeeeeeeeezzz
Damn that’s right I’m an idiot. One day man. One day I’ll get it right and finally quit commenting. Apparently I’m “Abnormal” At least I have an excuse.
THE FUTURE OF DRUMS (you heard it here first!).... is MICRO-kits (NOT expensive and clumsy "cocktail" kits). I spent $200 for a Ludwig Jr kit that has everything in MINIATURE size (!!!) --- LOOKS incredible! [Plus I decorated it wild.] I tweaked it all, ditched the great small cymbal stands and tiny floor tom (!), cable-tied two drumsticks vertically to the two mounted toms as Cymbal Stands (!), attached almost everything to the KICK drum... and VOILA. Takes me 30 seconds to set up outdoors, outta my van. I also get to practice and rehearse with others INSIDE my easily-tricked out van!! ($2K passenger van. Lever lets you pull out two back seats. ALready furnished and insulated! I then put in gold glitter curtains and red xmas lights and pillows and hellll yeah!! I show it off everywhere and every musician is super-jealous and wants to do it. In nice weather, I can go ANYWHERE and play outdoors [either inside the van with all the windows open, or I pull the drums out and play in nature!!!] [AND i get money tips... to practice! John Bonham and Neil Peart and Buddy Rich didn't!] PLUS MY DRUMS SOUND FANTASTIC, and so every drummer who tries them out goes nuts. Oh, being smaller in size, they fit even easier inside my van!) Most drumkits are DUMBkits: excessive big and loud. More laborious etc.
I have this kit and hardware/brain module wise, its freaking OUTSTANDING. Simply the best E-Kit you can buy imo. Absolutely love it. The triggering and nuance is near perfect. BUT.......... The included sample kits are terrible! Roland really needs to let a "drummer" design/pick the pre-installed kits included because they weren't even close to anything useful or sound nice imo. Even just one kit in there, just as a standard, crisp generic drum kit off the music shop showroom floor would even suffice?!?! I immediately went in and designed my own setup, which yes, you would or should do anyway and yes, the module has some great sounding various instruments and I've been able to craft some great sounding kits I love. But again, its biggest downfall is the quality and variety of kit/instrument variations. It may have over 700 sounds, but heaps in there are "filler" garbage that I'll never use (yes, you need sounds in there to satisfy all musical influences, fair enough). Anyways, it sux's to have a "ranty" comment, as I immensely enjoy and love my TD27, I've even upgraded the Bass drum to an acoustic type for better presence (but still using the KD10) and used other acoustic elements to build a hybrid kit. So if Roland somehow see's this ....... outstanding kit, but give us some better kit samples in future firmware updates please? We pay a hefty sum for these kits, I think we deserve it?
I''ve always been confused by electric drums in 2020 that have not integrated drum software like superior drummer that has been around for soo long, or at least used their money to develop their own decent sounds. I had an older Roland a few years back. It seems like the sounds have actually been getting worse, not better. Either way. The key to playing electronic drum sets is to not play soo many notes. you need to use loose phrasing. Lang wasn't the best guy to demonstrate this lol. Also, even though the stock drum sounds are bad, they sound better with other instruments in the mix.
If you don't have complaining neighbors in an apartment complex you really shouldn't look into one of these anyway. The fact that the sound isn't physically being produced by your strikes shows so much over time, no matter how cutting edge edrums can get and how close they get to replicating acoustic kits I'm afraid they'll never have the same connection and the benefits that brings.
Thomas Lang. A dude who can play everything Mangini can play and doesn't have to upload a 10 minute video to his channel explaining a 1 second drum fill..
@@hoipimniet I agree with you 100%, but that's Roland - overpriced kits, that comes with high quality pads and plastic sounds. Too bad Strike doesn't come with better cymbals and more reliable pads, but that was maybe fixed on Strike SE
I mean, roland is super cheating in this AD because you can hear it in this - or maybe Thomas just digs 80's patches... th-cam.com/video/xlvbY6DToPs/w-d-xo.html
There are some nice features here; I'll give them that. The 14" snare and 18" ride look really nice. However, I have 3 criticisms right off the bat: 1st, the bass drum pad is super weak. It is not in keeping with the quality of the other pads. It practically fell over under Thomas' feet. There needs to be a bass pad closer to the design of TD30KV or TD50KV. Maybe not exactly the same, but closer. The head should be similar to the tom and snare pad with at least a 12" diameter. 2nd, there needs to be a bigger floor tom pad. No smaller than 12" should be accepted. 3rd, the sound. I see other people commenting on this. Very dated. I love 80s New Wave music as much as the next guy; but we need improvement here. I know why these things are not included: marketing. Roland always leaves the player wanting more at the lower price points. They never offer a kit for reasonable money without the player wishing for upgrades. So, in order to get all the things you need for an acceptable playing experience, you have to fork out 8K for the flagship. Frustrating.
You perfectly displayed the weekness of all electronic kits, played fast they sound horrible, with the exact same tone and trigger speed the repeated sound sounds like a machine.. great for practice but horrible for live.
A major problem I find with the TD27 is the lack of ready to go sounding kits. Most of the pre installed kits need to be mixed and adjusted to get them to sound good. Most of them sound flat and muffled. I actually preferred my TD12s kits over this one. But the amount of adjustments are very impressive.
And what better artist to showcase this product none other than, "Thomas Lang the human drum machine magnificent"!! This dude is the Micheal Jordan of drumming
Ok ! Let’s get real! I live in a Victorian converted flat. This has wood floor boards an joists. Some plaster board walls. So , how is the noise level when, you put this through ear phones. Or should I say, how’s the exterior tap noise for stopping nehbours an disturbance.???? Many thanks❤ great chopping too
@@jacobpotts7954 You buy the roland kit for the way it feels and plays. Hook it up to 120 dollars of EZ drummer or 300 dollars of Superior drummer, running on a laptop and it sounds fantastic too!
I've been a lifetime drummer and have always played acoustic kits in all sizes. This kit has me very interested in electric setup,ones that I have checked out I found I can do twice the speed with half the effort. The head response is incredible.
They're especially great when you hook them up to a laptop. You can make ANY drum sound that way.
I watched him in my country when he came for drum seminar..at 2006
He looked like a ‘Big Metal Machine’ and I don’t want to be convinced that he’s getting old.
I don’t even play drums wtf am I doing here
Charles Ford Jr enjoying the experience
@NASA IS GOD! just do it for them, it trains alot.
NASA IS GOD! Regular, go old school, electronic is cool but not like a regular drum set
😂😂😂
Charles Ford Jr you do, you just don't know it
Thank you Thomas my drum brother!! My wife purchased this kit for me on Father’s Day,.. and I need to here the capabilities of this kit being that I am a drummer for many years and want to practice WHENEVER I WANT and at WHATEVER TIME!! Thank you for the demonstration!! I’m about to rock out!! ✊🏾🙏🏽🙏🏽🎼💯🥁
3:40 that double kick is amazing
Glad to finally see a reviewer with proper double bass drums skills!
Yesss!!! Close your eyes lady’s and gentlemen and you can hear a real authentic Roland td12.
NeewollaH * I recently got a used TD-12 and the toms used here sound a lot worse than the ones I use. There has to be better sounds than this somewhere in that module? I get that Roland has a certain sound which not everyone likes, but come on.
Karl-Fredrik Blixt Hagholm Roland latency is the best. no one in the E drum business can beat the quality in parts and feel of a Roland E kit. I have td11, td17, td25, and the td17 only beats the td25 in cymbal sounds and dynamics. Everything else in the td17 is very disappointing. Yes you can layer sounds and add your own ONE shot samples but you have to have high quality recording equipment to get that authentic raw crack from a snare. Or low end thud from floor Tom etc.... anyway this td27 sounds exactly like the td17. Fucking disappointing. Like I said it has awesome cymbal sounds and dynamics but it’s like when I started off playing acoustic drums years ago. I cared more how my drums where tuned and spent more money on a high quality snare than the trash can lid cymbals that I used. I would spend hours being super picky with how my snare and toms where tuned.
NeewollaH * Yeah, I like the feel (apart from the hot spots which are quite annoying), and it all seems well built. As far as sounds go, I am currently happy with my TD-12 (had a Yamaha DTXplorer before so big step up), but I will probably use a laptop sometime in the future. I will most likely not buy a more expensive drum module from Roland just for the sounds, it will only be if I need specific features or inputs.
I really think a lot of it is TH-cam. My kit sounds a lot better in person than in this video.
When a legend plays an instrument obviously it's gonna sound fantabulous....
This guy could be hitting pancakes it would still sound great
Mate sugarfoot can make air sound good and than sell it to you, cymbals seperate
Air cymbals that is
Jack Stratton would like a word
They should have had a beautiful oriental chick playing them , they would have sounded much better , Thomas Lang is to good to do this crap
@@BennehWennehDrumBoi Are you talking about this Jack Stratton? th-cam.com/video/tPa40gFF8E4/w-d-xo.html
Still has that synthetic attack sound that cheap electronic kits have.
Damn! Wanted to love it
they should call that the BRUFORD Setting, ha ha
They are all crap! They break with that level of strikes in a month, then you loose your kit for a month and out shipping cost for repair, for a year's time. Good luck repairing a year later without having to buy costly parts and licking into a decent pizeo mailed to you. The price of upkeep and aggravation of shipping time lost on the kit should greatly depreciate the value of sale. The second you buy this kit it depreciates 75%
Guy goes out of his way to tell you that the rag can withstand all kinds of playing and yknow i would assume durability wouldn't be something that they make compromises in when releasing cheaper kits. I own a td11 and i'm pretty sure there is no point to a durable rag if your cymbal's gonna die out less than a year later with not too frequent and gentle use.
la td17-kv suena mucho mejor
really? sounds super realistic to me.
I have an old Roland drum kit from like 2008 and it pretty much has all the exact same features
I have this kit and TRUST ME it sounds better than this video portrays. It takes some fine tuning (on the snare especially) but mine sounds extremely realistic.
hey could you send me some clips??
Same for tm6 pro you need to fine tunning the dynamic and threshold to get nuance, i play from light hit to very strong especialy for ghost note on snare.
I believe this. I think alot of people give Roland a bit too much flak. Yes they don't sound amazing directly out of the box, but they don't take much to sound pretty darn decent, and they are the ONLY BRAND that has the real quality of pads and cymbals. I have had Yamaha and Alesis kits and they just don't hold up to real playing.
@NegaArson I'm unsure whether this module has similar sounds to the TD07 module, but I have one, and most of the kits are pretty sweet sounding. Then again, I'm just a beginner, so it's my first electronic drum set.
First thing I did was adjust the sensitivity of the snare. I have the VAD306 and on my hardest hits was only reading 80%. This makes a massive difference to the sound of the snare sounding the way it should. I don’t know why but with Roland the snare is never correct out of the box but it is there!
Thomas lang is such a fun and talented(versatile) drummer and these drums sound great. I just ordered a set cuz I can't play my acoustic kit where I live. Finally I can play them like he does cuz when I tried them in the store and really started getting into it, they told me I was gonna have a heart attack 😆🤣 great video and playing 😎👍👏
It seems that machine-gunning edrums are some of most precious memories of the 20th century that Roland decided to preserve and pass on to our grand-grand children. The same league as the Beatles and the Moon landing.
It's 2020 and roland can't make a sound module that doesnt "machine gun." It sounds essentially like my TD 11 module that's over 10 years old. I just dont understand!
Yeah I bought a td17kvx quite recently and honestly other than having bigger pads and cymbals, there isn't anything standout here for me that would warrant the extra £1000 or so spent
Agreed, it's a shame
When he plays it gives me war ptsd
Sounds are same as my TD12 module and that is over 15 years old 🙊🙉
How dare you compare the mighty td11kv to this garbage. Td11kv sounds 1000x better if you know how to tweak it.
Thomas great as always - greets from Frankfurt (we had a nice dinner at "Das Leben ist schön")
He’s simply too good for those drums. He proved there no match for the real thing. They made a mistake having this master test them.
@rj zander What?
Hes not a master, not even close
@@funkslave9425 A man who consistently gets invites to teach masterclasses is not a master? Okay...
agree 100%
@DP 91 He's an absolute legend no doubt. He's a great clinician and technician. I just feel like the word master gets thrown around a lot these days based on certain players technical facility on the kit. To be considered one of the true masters though, for me speaks to much more than technique. It's first and foremost about musicality and contribution a player has made to the broader music communitynot only drummers (I have not heard many great bass players, guitarists, singers, producers etc even mention lang). It speaks to the recordings they have featured on and the great live performances (with other musicians not solo) they are renowned for.
Just by a used Roland, Yamaha kit (you can find them for around $500) and trigger Addictive Drums or Superior Drummer. REAL drum samples that sound incredible. More than a few great albums I know of have been recorded using that software.
The garage band drums sets on my I Pad sound even better then this .
Easily one of the most underrated drummer
Sound samples remind me the ones I used to play on keyboards.
I'm talking about the 90's keyboards.
Everyone harping on the sound of the drum module..I own the TD-27KV and I love it. If you really take the time to dial in the sounds and mix it to your liking, you can get some really impressive results. Get in there and have fun!
I have the spd30 octapad and it is true that you should take time to explore the knobs to achieve those preferred organic drum sounds.
Mind blowing how out of touch Roland are with the actual sounds
Learn how to use one...and programme it. They were all factory programmed kits
I absolutely agree, there is nothing you can do to those sounds to make it sound good. For that kind of money it's still useless without using it as a controller for a GOOD drum VST :(
its true. I have a TD 20 kit. As soon as I started using Addictive Drums I literally have not used the stock sounds one time.
Jake Oseland dude you’re a bad ass player man!!
For a new module I'm astounded at how bad it sounds. Roland need to try MUCH harder.
For 2020 , this sounds weak.
Terrible samples....
Agreed.
Totally agree. Sounds horrible to me
American One Productions NJ Yea, what the hell is roland thinking?
I need a recomendation guys... This one / ATV exs 5 one??
I love Roland hardware. I am just waiting for Roland to install Superior Drummer or anything more natural-sounding into their module then its game over. Sign me up!
There would be no reason to buy other kits other than Roland's other than price
Well, I use EZDrummer 2 with the TD17. It is a completely different world. SD3 is probably even better. But for the moment EZD is enough for my needs.
I would argue, that the 10" pads of ATV are as good as the Roland ones and if you don´t care about money, DrumTec makes the best acoustic sized e-drums in my opinion. But I haven´t played the new Roland ones yet. Still, especially on the bass drum of Roland I dislike, that it is basically only a KD10 in a bigger drum shell.
I think superior drummer is owned by a rival company or affiliated with one that competes with Roland so I doubt that will happen. But Roland is too stubborn and stuck up to do that. They have a loyal fan base that will spend $400 on a pad that cost a few dollars to make. Piezos are cheap, made around 1800’s I think. I don’t love the hardware because I’ve had it fail on me and mistriggers. When playing in different environments it is effected no matter if the foam cones are new or old. Piezoelectric has brass and ceramic pieces that are effected by cold and humid temperatures.
Crazy how good electric drums are now compared to the 90s
This guy sounds THAT good on this set. Imagine how he would sound on a set that actually sounds GOOD...
J_Boga yeah we all know who Thomas Lang is unless you live under a rock
Imagine how bad it would be in a alesis
th-cam.com/video/5g0MGRaF1oM/w-d-xo.html
All the guys complaining about the sound - check out Drum-Tec, they are doing samples for every Roland sound module which include a lot of real acoustic sets.
They just sound amazing, I use one with my TD-17 and its a completely different experience compared to the standard sounds!
They also have videos with sound samples on TH-cam aus well.
Thomas Lang could make pots and pans sounds good.....
A '92 IROC-Z with brand new Pirelli tires...is still a '92 IROC-Z. Almost 25 years since the TD-10 and Roland still ain't figured it out. #RatTatTatTatTat
"Let's just get Thomas Lang and people will think you sound like this" ... Lol
True dat
Have you try to tweak a little the sound? I can assure u can get vts like sound but with better dynamic
@Bill Perri yeah i own one, took a loan to buy it but man, the quality is astounding, the snare is something really great
For the money they charge, they should be employing high level modelling synthesis at this point.
Great drummer... but the sound? Awful!
?does that guy play for anyone significant..shit he's damn skippy 👌
Yeah agreed, if you’re gonna have an electric set use it for electric sounds, not trying to sound like real drums. But it’s nice to see the tech growing though.
Joshua Armendariz he had an audition for Dream Theater but wasn’t picked unfortunately.
@@pivotvideos101 boo..well atleast he can still put his master skill to something worthwhile mothing worse than a gifted drummer who goes on sung
And for 3k.....geez. Not to mention, I had a Roland fall apart on me in the middle of a concert. That was about 15yrs ago. And the sounds still are the same...idk.
Wonderful! And this man... One of the very best drummers in the world!
Needs more cowbell.
Damn it, now I have to watch the skit again 😂
M R lol that actually made me laugh out loud!!!
Yeah
More pads
Com um dos melhores BATERISTAS do Mundo fica fácil fazer um Marketing de sucesso.
HAHAHAHA I spat out my drink laughing because of the joke "Affordable price"
This is the savior for all drummers who doesn't want to piss their neighbors off xD
Affordable?
Wow. 3000€ used to be the flagship.
Inflation is a bitch, ain't it?
The gentleman is an excellent player nice electric drum kit to
great, I already have the drums, now I just need to learn to play like Thomas Lang lol
Keep practicing and you'll get there bro
Dude is sick w that double bass...
Tom Lang he is the greatest of all time
I think you misspelled Neal Peart
not only the talk but thus guy have the skills.
NEW CASIO DRUMS BY ROLAND
Awesome video. Awesome play set, both the drums and you playing. Kudos
I remember being at a Thomas Lang drum clinic and he said that Roland drums caused him wrist problems.
Dan - wrist problems are easily cured with lots of money...
I don’t play drums but I love listening to top quality drummers like Phil Collins. This guy is a very good drummer but his review is so full of jargon that drummers would understand, it is incomprehensible to me.
I like the kit and all the pads. I just wished Roland would move into Present Time and allow full VST integration into the Module. So many great companies making good drum sounds out there. Not just sample import but full VST into the module, who wants samples with no dynamics? Most people will plug this into a laptop and use software. Roland kits do last forever and they are very reliable live and in studio.
Ok imma clear this up for you with two words, they can’t. And here’s why with Roland tuning and FX I’ve heard people say that type of think Roland does makes it to difficult for them to put in the VST they would have to make there own that’s what I heard atleast it’s becuase of all the FX Reverb tuning stuff like that
Thomas Lang is not human
Save your tons of bucks. Buy the cheapest possible electronic drumkit and connect it to Superior Drummer 3.
But that build quality though, cheap kit will break and have to be replaced alot.
Absolutely, I have a £300 TDX model, can't remember which one, hooked up to GGD invasion, sounds brilliant, and the kit build is solid.
Ok and how would one achieve this? Please inform. I have a roland td50kv. How can i hook it up to superior drummer 3 in a live setting? Also will the responsive drum pads of the roland kit work with the software for dynamics and cymbal mutes and such? Please inform me.....
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don't agree. cheaper models also mean less sensitivity, less dynamic pad "areas", and the likes. you need high quality, high-engineered pads AND a good sampler. a BS kit with SD3 won't cut it. otherwise what's the point of having 1000 dynamic layers when your kit will "read" only 2?
I agree! A used Yamaha e kit triggering REAL drum samples from SD or Addictive Drums will blow these sounds away.
Beautiful kit, great drums, sucky sounds.
Honestly, the sound should be the least of your worries. Any built-in sound presets can't beat EZdrummer anyway, not even Roland VAD-706 module in my opinion. You can't really get anything better than Roland TD-27KV in that price range. It's not even a discussion, it's a fact. Roland is just far ahead of the competition. That's not just my opinion - every drummer will tell you the same.
I want to buy the Yamaha dtx8. Looks kick ass. But I've been between that and the td27. Have you seen the demos of the Yamaha? Does this opinion still hold true 9 months later? Thanks.
Thomas Lang is one of the most under rated drummers out there. And what Roland did was make the e-kit more compact and streamlined. Stop ragging on Roland. It’s a good strong company with a solid product. Alexa has really stepped its game up, check those e- kits out. Ekits have their purpose. And nothing compares to a true acoustic drum kit, but how many times do the cops have to knock on your door, or place of worship. Just sayin \m/
Resist Trump he is not underrated everyone knows exactly how good he is unless you know nothing about drums and the drum community..
Great drumming
This is the greatest drums I’ve ever seen
Thomas is the perfect drummer for exposing TD27s machine gun sounds. Why on earth did Roland choose him to do the presentation?
All I could think was how unnatural that sounds with such sharp attack and decay with no real sustain.
Thomas Lang straight up LOVES the drums! He's like the Kobe Bryant of drumming. Been a fan since the Creative Control DVD and tour back in 2003.
So you post this several days after most of the Western World mourns the loss of a great athlete. Thomas Lang is really good at drums. But he’s no Kobe Bryant. Kobe is a little stiff on drums nowadays. Actually he’s stiff on everything since his forced retirement. Maybe when Thomas dies he’ll be as good as Kobe.
Andrew Higdon you’re an idiot. Thomas Lang to drumming is what Kobe Bryant was to basketball, in my opinion. I was and am a massive Kobe fan. My comment in no way is disrespectful. It’s a comparison that is timely, despite the unfortunate circumstances of Jan 26, 2020. I was strictly comparing to great talents. RIP Kobe.
Dave MacLean good god man. I just though the timing and comparison were bad on your part so I made a bad joke, presumably comparable. Whoopsy I mean how can you compare a living and breathing great drummer with an athlete whose death is still fresh on the mind? I figured maybe you didn’t know Kobe had died or were saying that Thomas was maybe ready to retire. Ok so fuck me running. Maybe if Neil Peart was doing that demo, or compare to Michael Jordan.
Jeeeeeeeeezzz
Damn that’s right I’m an idiot.
One day man. One day I’ll get it right and finally quit commenting. Apparently I’m
“Abnormal” At least I have an excuse.
Great Drummer. Now can we put him on a Good sounding kit 🙂
love to listen to this drummer. He is a legend.
Thomas is beating those drums hard... like a red headed step
Child
Maaaaaan he was fOnkin' them drumZ UP
It's 2020 and electric drums and when it comes to the acoustic drums imitation, they still suck
THE FUTURE OF DRUMS (you heard it here first!).... is MICRO-kits (NOT expensive and clumsy "cocktail" kits). I spent $200 for a Ludwig Jr kit that has everything in MINIATURE size (!!!) --- LOOKS incredible! [Plus I decorated it wild.] I tweaked it all, ditched the great small cymbal stands and tiny floor tom (!), cable-tied two drumsticks vertically to the two mounted toms as Cymbal Stands (!), attached almost everything to the KICK drum... and VOILA. Takes me 30 seconds to set up outdoors, outta my van. I also get to practice and rehearse with others INSIDE my easily-tricked out van!! ($2K passenger van. Lever lets you pull out two back seats. ALready furnished and insulated! I then put in gold glitter curtains and red xmas lights and pillows and hellll yeah!! I show it off everywhere and every musician is super-jealous and wants to do it. In nice weather, I can go ANYWHERE and play outdoors [either inside the van with all the windows open, or I pull the drums out and play in nature!!!] [AND i get money tips... to practice! John Bonham and Neil Peart and Buddy Rich didn't!] PLUS MY DRUMS SOUND FANTASTIC, and so every drummer who tries them out goes nuts. Oh, being smaller in size, they fit even easier inside my van!) Most drumkits are DUMBkits: excessive big and loud. More laborious etc.
Dumpy Goodness heck yeah! I bought that same set off Craigslist for $40. Awesome little kit.
ATV and Alesis sound much better. Hell even those cheap Carlsbro kits sound better.
@@dumpygoodness4086 where can I check out your awesome set up?
Thomas is such a beast
I have this kit and hardware/brain module wise, its freaking OUTSTANDING. Simply the best E-Kit you can buy imo. Absolutely love it. The triggering and nuance is near perfect. BUT.......... The included sample kits are terrible! Roland really needs to let a "drummer" design/pick the pre-installed kits included because they weren't even close to anything useful or sound nice imo. Even just one kit in there, just as a standard, crisp generic drum kit off the music shop showroom floor would even suffice?!?! I immediately went in and designed my own setup, which yes, you would or should do anyway and yes, the module has some great sounding various instruments and I've been able to craft some great sounding kits I love. But again, its biggest downfall is the quality and variety of kit/instrument variations. It may have over 700 sounds, but heaps in there are "filler" garbage that I'll never use (yes, you need sounds in there to satisfy all musical influences, fair enough).
Anyways, it sux's to have a "ranty" comment, as I immensely enjoy and love my TD27, I've even upgraded the Bass drum to an acoustic type for better presence (but still using the KD10) and used other acoustic elements to build a hybrid kit. So if Roland somehow see's this ....... outstanding kit, but give us some better kit samples in future firmware updates please? We pay a hefty sum for these kits, I think we deserve it?
Dude! you are awesome!
I''ve always been confused by electric drums in 2020 that have not integrated drum software like superior drummer that has been around for soo long, or at least used their money to develop their own decent sounds. I had an older Roland a few years back. It seems like the sounds have actually been getting worse, not better. Either way. The key to playing electronic drum sets is to not play soo many notes. you need to use loose phrasing. Lang wasn't the best guy to demonstrate this lol. Also, even though the stock drum sounds are bad, they sound better with other instruments in the mix.
You know they can’t atleast roland
nice kit i hope i can buy that in the future
Wow, HORRIBLE sounds. I am sticking to my acoustic kit until something decent and fairly priced comes out. Sorry nieghbors!
If you don't have complaining neighbors in an apartment complex you really shouldn't look into one of these anyway. The fact that the sound isn't physically being produced by your strikes shows so much over time, no matter how cutting edge edrums can get and how close they get to replicating acoustic kits I'm afraid they'll never have the same connection and the benefits that brings.
Strike pro SE and superior drummer three my dude🙂
Yeah, till it falls apart in a couple months. Have fun getting everything replaced.
I mean... Alesis Strike Pro. Best sound ever.
Id listen to Thomas' techno album of drums!
Like everyone else is saying, the toms are the worse part of this kit, also the kick has no variation which makes it sound like a robot.
I still play my DDrum 3 and love the Fat Killer Sounds!
Thomas Lang. A dude who can play everything Mangini can play and doesn't have to upload a 10 minute video to his channel explaining a 1 second drum fill..
Drummer is extraordinary talented
Come on! Nobody hears how bad this sounds???
Letsynthesize I’m not a drummer but I think it’s okay
Letsynthesize okay now I kind of hear it the toms are weird
It is soulless
Yeah i'm with you
Honestly it's a completely different story when you have it in person with headphones the td17 sounded bad in the previews but it sounds amazing
Saweet I. Was asked to set up and play this kit with my good friend.
Thomas Lang not included.
Un genio total Thomas Lang.....
Looks and sounds great! Except for the tom sounds... how can they still sound so bad (especially in the metal kit)
There's always Superior Drummer.. On the downside, you can't use this with the Mimic
@@markomarkovic5729 Obviously you can run VSTs, but come on, sounds should be better on a €3000 drumkit
@@hoipimniet I agree with you 100%, but that's Roland - overpriced kits, that comes with high quality pads and plastic sounds. Too bad Strike doesn't come with better cymbals and more reliable pads, but that was maybe fixed on Strike SE
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@@markomarkovic5729 some company should really make modules that are compatible with roland pads
My dream kit...!!!
This is so wrong, turns out the drums can’t turn me into Thomas Lang 😭😭
You're not using his patches. YOu can hear some of the small tom tones in his new solo album that are on the one mesh pad there.
I mean, roland is super cheating in this AD because you can hear it in this - or maybe Thomas just digs 80's patches...
th-cam.com/video/xlvbY6DToPs/w-d-xo.html
Years of practice can do that.
This is so cool - back to the 80s!!!!!
Roland drums/hardware with Yamaha sounds... please.
Dam!!!!!! Beautiful sound. Wish I had one
There are some nice features here; I'll give them that. The 14" snare and 18" ride look really nice. However, I have 3 criticisms right off the bat: 1st, the bass drum pad is super weak. It is not in keeping with the quality of the other pads. It practically fell over under Thomas' feet. There needs to be a bass pad closer to the design of TD30KV or TD50KV. Maybe not exactly the same, but closer. The head should be similar to the tom and snare pad with at least a 12" diameter. 2nd, there needs to be a bigger floor tom pad. No smaller than 12" should be accepted. 3rd, the sound. I see other people commenting on this. Very dated. I love 80s New Wave music as much as the next guy; but we need improvement here. I know why these things are not included: marketing. Roland always leaves the player wanting more at the lower price points. They never offer a kit for reasonable money without the player wishing for upgrades. So, in order to get all the things you need for an acceptable playing experience, you have to fork out 8K for the flagship. Frustrating.
Can always swap the kick pad out for a KD120
Snare sounds great, doesn't have that sampled digital sound to it but the toms certainly do.
My fuckin TD-9 has better sounding toms. I'm sure it's just the tuning that was done for this video and not the module itself.
You perfectly displayed the weekness of all electronic kits, played fast they sound horrible, with the exact same tone and trigger speed the repeated sound sounds like a machine.. great for practice but horrible for live.
A major problem I find with the TD27 is the lack of ready to go sounding kits. Most of the pre installed kits need to be mixed and adjusted to get them to sound good. Most of them sound flat and muffled. I actually preferred my TD12s kits over this one. But the amount of adjustments are very impressive.
This is the best thing Roland can produce for 2020... Thin cheesy drum sounds? No Thanks....
And what better artist to showcase this product none other than, "Thomas Lang the human drum machine magnificent"!! This dude is the Micheal Jordan of drumming
That bass drum pad is moving around a lot while he plays. Could be very distracting.
But I have tried the digital snare on a TD-50 kit and liked the snare a lot.
3:40 heard, went, came back x 20
the metal kit sounds the best
Acoustic drum set- 1
Electronic drum set- 0
ALL day long.
Thanks for the detailed info. Will definitely purchase one of this in the future 😃😁👍🔥🔥🇻🇺🇻🇺🇻🇺
Hmmm. The comments about the drums sounding like an 80's e-kit are true. I'm disappointed with the sounds.
Ok ! Let’s get real!
I live in a Victorian converted flat. This has wood floor boards an joists.
Some plaster board walls.
So , how is the noise level when, you put this through ear phones. Or should I say, how’s the exterior tap noise for stopping nehbours an disturbance.????
Many thanks❤ great chopping too
I'd say generally we're all disappointed sorry Roland
Just a great drummer on a Pretty good kit!
Give me a regular drum set anyday. This sounds like tin cans & empty pails. LOL
Such a good video, very informative and pleasant to watch
This made me more unsure about the electronic drums option than ever.
Vesaniah4 lol same
@@jacobpotts7954 You buy the roland kit for the way it feels and plays. Hook it up to 120 dollars of EZ drummer or 300 dollars of Superior drummer, running on a laptop and it sounds fantastic too!
I have a td 25 k and love it. To all the haters - Nothing beats Roland! And Thomas Lang is beast and hits like a machine gun^^