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Teens React #156 - TEENS REACT TO 13 REASONS WHY
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Thanks for showing this video, I know the video has been really controversial and such but I think it's good that you show this.
Haven't you guys noticed how when Clay imagines how everything happened with Hannah that everything is bright but when it goes back to present day, then it's dark and gloomy like his life his dull without her.
rodeogirl3000 Hannah was Clay's sun
rodeogirl3000 yeah, it's one of the great things about this show
Yess I was wondering if anyone else noticed 😂
yeah and sometimes i can’t tell what time this is so i just know by the filter or whatever
I thought it was just me.
I'm still healing from Jeff's death
Naila LaFrance same
Whose Jeff
@@sealain guy who died in car accident. he treated clay very well and gave advices
Naila L. Who’s Jeff?
Ohhhh Jeff
"You're being a clay rn, just listen to the tapes"😂😂😂
Why are there no replies to this comment after 3 years
We have the same name!
Clay is a dag.
@@mszs3913 dag?
@@gewritez yeah, as in silly/goofy.
The point people miss about this show, is not Hannah's death - it's Alex's suicide. Just as in life, if you spend all your time paying attention to the obvious, the loudest, the shiniest, you miss the signs that are right in front of you, anyone who was surprised by Alex's suicide, was not paying attention to very obvious signs. This is a lesson for life, you need to truly see the people around you, what they are telling you when you are too busy living.
!!!! this
Wait what? He suicides?
@@emilyb1007 at the end of season 1, you figure out that he shoots himself in the head. but he survived and is in the other seasons
@@emilyb1007 he survives
EXACTLY.
Clay: *Breathes*
Tony: "Just listen to the tapes"
tony: breathes
clay: WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME
Bryce : Breathes
Everyone: 'CAN YOU NOT'
Is it just me or did Bryce literally start her pain and bullying?
Shayla Miller MHM YES HE DID
Shayla Miller I know!!! If Bryce hadn't gotten Justin's phone then it probably wouldn't have started.
EVERYTHING IS BRYCES FAULT
Yes. He did.
@@Thatb-yk8cw and justin!
I mean doesn't Romeo and Juliet romanticize suicide? Yet we spend endless classes in high schools across the country studying the play
Ryan C wow, this comment is everything. 👏👏👏
Yes I completely agree!
That was based on fiction and it's 100s of years ago. This show affects us today. Not a good show for young people or anyone in general
We just finished Romeo and Juliet right now
That said there’s a decent amount of stuff pointing to Romeo and Juliet Bering a comedy. Making fun of young love
Can we have an elders react to 13 reasons why? I really wanna see their point of view of this dilemma.
AverageJo yaaas
parents would be more interesting!!!
Yeah that would be really interesting
Second this
I would like adults more but yeah... some older people's perspective please
There are two types of people when watching 13 Reasons Why:
Most People: All in one night
Clay: Very slowly
I'm a clay.
I’m a clay
Sammeeeee
Im most people
I'm a Clay too
I finished three shows in one day once
Completely agree with the one kid: without showing the suicide scene and without showing the brutal aftermath with her parents finding her body it wouldn't of been as powerful and horrifying as it was. That scene cemented the truth of what suicide is: more pain.
so true! a topic like this needs a shock factor!
I agree I think it was important to add the scene
I think the suicide scene was nessesary because it clearly stated that suicide is painful
And how the parents felt
She died there alone and in pain😭😭
As somebody who has struggled with self harm and suicide (I’ve never seen the scene because I would probably have a panic attack), those kinds of things may help some people, or gain empathy from the general public, but they hurt most suicidal people. Artistically speaking it’s great, and it does show pain, but it doesn’t mean that will stop everybody from committing. Suicide is a final option, a moment of physical pain to relieve all of the mental pain. The scene does more bad than good in my opinion.
@@sonammalkhede2791 ‘Everyone dies alone’ Moral truth!
"YASSS Clay, YASSS Hannah, Go away Justin." SAME GURL
FXCKINGSTYLIK I mean I don't blame Justin he did show the photo but Bryce posted the photo and Justin couldn't do anything
Man Justin is my favorite, don't s*** on Justin
@@nuggyg7562 same he's my favourite rn but I didn't really like him in season 1
biggest development ever
coming from someone who has struggled with depression and suicide, this was a very accurate portrayal. everything Hannah felt, I felt once. I was fortunate to have someone stop me in time.
and the ones who are saying that it romanticizes suicide or revenge, or blaming everyone else, or that she was dramatic, seeking attention, etc... they only say that because they don't understand. they've never been suicidal themselves and they may not realize that they are in the same mindset as the bullies. this is something that needs to be addressed. people need to understand, those who suffer with this are not stable. they are sick and need help and they do not see things as a stable, rational person would.
And no, it doesn't show how to avoid suicide, that was not the point. the point was to accurately portray how someone struggling with depression thinks and feels. this was about how what everyone did affected her and worsened her sickness until she became suicidal. Your words and actions affect others more than you know, and we all need to realize this.
caitlin venable im glad you overcomed it
CybertronianMedic 101010 thank you, I am too. but I could not have done it on my own. A girl I barely knew had decided to try and befriend me and just happened to decide to check on me at just the right moment. she stopped me, held me for a while as I cried, listened to everything I had to say, and got me to a doctor. she has been the best friend anyone could ask for and I would not be here without her.
CybertronianMedic 101010 and you should never minimize your own pain. everyone has a legitimate reason for feeling as they do, it's never stupid.
caitlin venable thank you :)
"it was showing that women are weak", ALEX TRIED TO SUICIDE TOO, WTF.
tdashi96 True but I see what she means
Exactly
and clay too
I’m glad Alex didn’t die tho. He deserves to live
And clay and Justin struggled too
We need parents react to this
Lika I AGREE
Lika YES
That is a masterly idea, good thought! :O
People don't realize that this show isn't aimed at the Hannahs' of the world, it's aimed at the Clays'.
Gemma Marie I meant it as more preventative, like "know the signs"
Yes but children play m rated games all the time, they're not just going to not do it if they're not supposed to
Both
The suicide scene is SO necessary. The way Katherine Langford played that scene was absolutely stunning. You could see right through her, see the fear, and it showed how deeply hurt Hannah was at that point. The whole show shows us how easy it is to miss all the signs. The end scenes make it real and creates an impact on the audience, which really is what the whole show is about....
“Stunning” is a poor choice of words. Especially when associated with suicide. But yes I agree she did a splendid job portraying the role of a hurt young woman.
The suicide scene is so graphic so that people realize how painful it is
Period
Graphically showing suicide is actually dangerous for people with suicidal thoughts
@@mason3461 People with suicidal thoughts aren't supposed to watch 13 Reasons Why
Gamer Girl
Yeah or else things can get bad
@@vinylpetals8429 do you think that's gonna stop them, GTA v is rated M but there are 6 year olds on that all the time
The graphic suicide HAS to be done. It shows how gruesome it is; the reality of suicide, the reality of killing yourself. It's not a romanticism of suicide; its the reality of suicide.
Anfernee Alviar I totally agree. I can understand how people can think that it is unnecessary because of the 'tutorial' idea and the fact that it isn't sugar coated. I think that the fact that they put it in there made it so much more real for me, and made me think more about suicide not anymore as almost like a thing...but as a harsh reality.
Anfernee Alviar I completely agree with you
Except that it's one of the guidelines of dealing with suicide is to not reveal the method of suicide sooo
I think that Parents React should watch the trailer because I really think that it would be important to see a parent's perspective on suicide. Please see this comment and please like if you agree
Yeah thats actually a great idea
Meryem Hakkaoui ill be waiting for this episode
This show is basically the longer version of the movie Unfriended
i agree. esp since all the adults in the show seemed really unaware and i think that is true irl
The death scene wasn't supposed to be entertaining.. It's supposed to be very uncomfortable and intense and hard to watch because that's what it is. They wanted to accurately show what it's like so that it can continue in your mind as something very uncomfortable. I believe it achieved that and people are being dramatic. The show was portrayed pretty accurately to the book and this addition to it, really sealed the deal and hopefully people are more aware of this issue.
One of the therapeutic guidelines to dealing with suicide is to not reveal how the person committed suicide. This comes straight from psychologists. The show violates all 7 guidelines of dealing with suicide.
The suicide scene showed complete vulnerability and brokenness. I think it was necessary for it to be shown- she got hurt by so many people, but at the end she hurt herself. It showed the way her parents reacted to it, it showed the entire gory way that some teens feel that they have to go out.
parents reacting to 13 reasons why. please
13 reasons why they divorced
@@freshgags7702 Lmfao
The suicide scene's purpose is to be hard to watch. Glamorizing suicide would be making suicide seem less horrific than it is. This show does the complete opposite by showing the effect it has on Hannah's loved ones
Eclipse I totally agree with you, by showing the rawness of it.
You know what you are right, but also it has the opposite effect on some people.
Exactly
this is micky mouse clubhouse
The suicide scene is showing people the truth of what suicide is. It's meant to shock you and disturb you, it's meant to feel like a slap in the face. Most of the time it's what is needed to get through to people.
Amy :P but its like the complete opposite of wat anti-suicide websites say not to do lol
+MAN BILL well the show isn't meant for suicidal people to watch imo, its for others so we can learn about it, it's truth, and help prevent it.
thats like saying This show is for adults and not meant for kids to watch, even though we all know kids watch this
SO HAPPY I went to high school RIGHT BEFORE smart phones. Nobody could afford spending their phone minutes on sending texts or making calls. The only social media was xanga and it wasn't mobile friendly. Life was just... easy. You only texted in emergencies. You had to see people or call after 8 pm for free. Lol man.
lol i wonder how it was back then i would like see how it was without people on their phones 24/7
the book version was set in the late 80s-90s. the original tapes were cassettes and no one had phones. the same things still happened and affected hannah in the same way, so technology is not all to blame
Ashley M oh it was great! It made you miss people and actually have conversations to get to know people. I consider myself lucky.
jacque5006 oh I get that, I just mean that currently in our day and age, technology makes bullying much much easier. Just a general observation in terms of the show.
Girl: everyone on this show is so one dimensional
*next scene*
Clay: *shows an aggressively angry side of him that we've never seen*
no way that girl actually watched it with an open mindset at all
I will admit that before watching it I didn't have any interest bc I left like it was just gonna be another "oh this is a show about how bullying is bad" but after watching it, I realized it was actually a lot deeper than that. The show showed how bullying just one person can effect everyone around, not just the victim, it effected everyone, to the girls family, to her school to even the bullies themselves, and that's why I like it bc I've never seen any show go so deep on this matter.
If someone was able to watch the scene where she committed suicide and think, "Yeah, this is for me. I'm gonna go do that," they were already past the point of no return whether they watched the series or not. Was one of the most graphic things I've ever seen. It was very powerful.
GimmehMyMoney yeah
GimmehMyMoney
I skipped over it.
totally agree
GimmehMyMoney i couldn't watch that scene, it was too graphic and real for me.
I couldnt watch it at all
Okay I'm getting real pissed at the people saying the suicide scene is "too disturbing" like that's the point !!!!!!!!! So you can see that it's awful and painful and not beautiful in anyway. It's the opposite of romanticizing suicide which is what most kids see on social media all the time.
You're right but it can also have the opposite effect on some people
Yeah same
They literally give you a warning before watching the show I don’t see the problem
@@fanpagescorner7502 a lot of people said when they first watched the show there wasn't a waring on it. I think they added it after the suici*de scene, but I don't know what episode because I don't have Netflix. I've been watching reaction videos on TH-cam.
Seems to me that the show did exactly what it set out to do. Whether or not the show was good or bad, there is a lot more discussion about teen suicide and bullying now. That alone makes the show a success in my eyes.
They actually did everything Suicide Prevention Professionals told them NOT to do, especially actually showing the scene where Hannah kills herself.
My point is that regardless of the message the show sent, more discussions are happening.
Dan Vidro exactly
I was bullied and I tried to committee suicide as did my sister. This show is extremely moving to us both because it shows that power of what people go through. The suicide Scene was the most powerful because it actually showed everything that happens and it's purpose is to show a message and to tel people what bullying does. The show does not "romantic" suicide it shows that effects of bullying and that all these "Little things" add up to someone ending their life.
Shelby Burns I disagree. the things that happened didn't cause her suicide. Even after a bunch of bad stuff happens to u know matter how messed up your life is you still have a choice. You have a CHOICE to continue. nobody's actions will make you end your own life. only you can do that. that's what this show ignored to acknowledge .
@@nswspam329 yeh but people push you to that point of I have no other way out people have made it impossible to live normally and how I want
*People act like 13 Reasons was supposed to be a documentary.*
Do people not understand the suicide scene? It's meant to make you uncomfortable, it's meant to make you throw up, it's meant to make you cry, it's meant to make it feel real, feel the urgency of the subject matter.
true tho clay did imagine that
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I don't understand why people say this is making people comtemplating suicide rather than to see the after effect of suicide as how it affects your loved ones emotional states.
You're right it does show how it affects your loved ones,what are also shows suicide is a way of saying f*** you to the bullies, that's how it romanticizes suicide.
I have a friend who has been diagnosed with depression and he has had suicidal thoughts before. He had a hard time watching the suicide scene in 13 Reasons Why and explained how it made him not want to commit suicide.
Does Romeo and Juliet romanticize suicide? Yet what are we required to read our freshman year of high school?
Da Man Big P. Because romeo and juliet is a very popular play written by shakespeare
Da Man Big P. THANK YOU OH MY GOD
This is exactly what I was thinking
In house freshman here, we don't read Romeo and Juliet.
How does reading and seeing these tragic plays and shows romanticize suicide ?? It's literally just explaining what the show is about and what the characters in it decided to do. The reason it's so popular is because it's realistic and it's not all happy endings.
I don't understand why the negativity come from for this show? THIS SHOW is not intended for people who are thinking about suicide this is for PEOPLE to help out those WHO NEED HELP to see the signs and try to prevent a tragedy and most importantly the effects your words can cause to another person you might think is nothing but there are people who have a very soft skin and is too much when you attack them with words
XsinisterX616 i totally agree. not every show is for every person. just like how a love story is probably not what someone who recently was dumped shpupd watch, this show is probably not what a depressed person should watch.
Toddlers play m rated games all the time people ain't just going to not do it because there are not supposed to
it’s difficult bc when someone’s feeling suicidal this is exactly the type of thing that they’re drawn too. like, when i saw it for the first time i was Not doing well and the warning just drew me closer in. i get that for a lot of people it scared them but all i could see was the release, and that in the end hannah won. that was kind of the issue, at least in my life. the fact that it hurt and was bloody and shit didn’t matter bc self harm, and the look in her eyes and the fact that everyone regret their actions was appealing. i just wish the show had been more careful with showing it. it’s an important conversation, but the way that things were done really just pushed me further down a nasty route. idk, i think i’m too close to the issue to really have an impartial opinion though, it was really powerful for some people. who knows
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Exactly. It literally shows how negatively it affected people. It did the opposite of glamorizing
I feel like im the only one that actually likes Justin. At first I saw him as kind of the "bad" character but after seen his home life, how lonely he is, and how he depends on his friends all the time made me feel immensely bad for him. idk
I was about to say that too and that was how I felt about Justin until it showed his home life
dana You're not alone. I've always thought he was misunderstood.
Janelle yes!
Same
The suicide scene showed how real it is and how bad it hurts and how low you have to get to be there. They needed that to show you that you can't just treat people terribly and nothing will happen. It made the show. It shoved it in your face that this is real and it needs to stop. This show was great and I think it was done greatly and i'm happy that people finally spoke up about this issue.
" YES because that's how breakups work ." That's exactly what I said
The show was brought to 13 episodes, but there will be a second season. So, the story is not over yet.
this show didnt glamorize or glorify anything. it was raw and the truth. the suicide scene needed to be shown. it was showing that suicide isnt quick, beautiful, and painless. it is very hard and very painful and it isnt solving anything. the part where her parents come into the bathroom also didnt glorify suicide. it showed how it effects others after your gone.
Just a side comment: the people saying that they were disturbed by the suicide scene ... that was the entire point of it.
*"It's brutal and it's controversial but it's the truth."* AMEN! 💯 AGREE TO THAT KID!
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there are a LOT of various and VERY different reasons why people commit suicide. like it or not, it's a fact that bullying is a major cause. (which the show and book portrayed) so please don't just dismiss that and isolate suicide as a cause of just one thing. thank you.
I really wish you guys had someone on the show who has been directly effect by depression and suicide.
When you have severe clinical depression, your mind doesn't work the same way other people's do. You see the world through a lense that's been narrowed and distorted. This show does have a purpose but the message of mental illness is not portrayed in a way that effectively explains what having depression is like. This show takes depression and demonizes it, making it a tool for revenge rather than an uncontroable disease that constantly eats away at your brain until you've reached the point of hopelessness. Depression effects people all in different ways but this show is not an accurate representation of how DEPRESSION brings teens to suicide. Yes it touches on serious issues that need to be addressed like sexual harrasment and bullying and yes it makes people more aware but someone with depression watching this show will be affected in a way that a mentally health person can almost never understand.
On another note, even though these people in her life have effected her and sent her further into depression, this does not give her the right to blame her suicide on them. Blaming your depression or suicide on another human being is the cruelest thing you could ever do. Sufferers of depression should not be told or shown in anyway that "it's okay to blame what you're going through on someone else." Depression is a disease and yes none of them helped and yes they did things that pushed her closer to suicide but making tapes to blame and chastise them is curel. Giving the impression that this is the right way to handle this is wrong. No adult nor child should ever have to hold the guilt that they are the reason that someone lost their will to live. That is not how depression works. This television show as well as book had great intentions and, as always when you speak up about a controversial topic, will be critisized. I commend the author and all those involved in the show for standing up on such contreversial topics.
This comment does not receive enough attention 😭 This is exactly why Thirteen Reasons Why is a terrible show for portraying depression.
Ricardo, yes that CAN be the case but it is not always the case.
When someone sees that they can menipulate another person with their mental illness by guilting them into doing thing because they were the cause of their suicidal thoughts, that has gone too far. I personally have experienced that on a high scale. My father committed suicide and my ex boyfriend attempted suicide and blamed me when I did nothing to hurt either of them. I too had a form of depression after the death of my father. I know what it feels like to be on both sides. It's not fair. No one deserves it. My point is, this show uses suicide as a menipulate tool which is not okay.
I acknowledge your opinion and repectfully disagree.
Alexis Beetz Thank you so much for saying this!
My school sent out an email about this show romanticizing suicide. Guess what book all the freshmen are reading! Romeo and Juliet. C'mon, really?
EXACTLY!!!!
Claire Bailey wow, that's ridiculous
YES !!!!!!!!!
Claire Bailey 🙏🙌
Lord I have been saying this
That is a great point
It's possible to skip certain scenes, to be honest. If you truly think you're not able to handle it, skip it.
no one's going to skip the scene okay and plus it doesn't matter if you skip it or not the fact that they put it in he's still a problem because that drives people to suicide, and suicide is bad
Honestly I did think the suicide scene was necessary, or at least the part where her body is found, because that scene broke me. Her parents reactions are very heartbreaking so like.. ye i thought it shoulda been in there.
same...I know I could never do that to my parents now and I'm so glad it was there!
Cameron Richards Like the dude said (11:25 - 11:40) it shows how brutal it is. How it effects everyone especially your family, the ones who love you the most.
I've seen comments on here from teens requesting a 13 reasons reaction from the parents. Well I'm a parent, and I was HORRIFIED but educated by the show. I truly had no clue what our youth goes through and the very real adult like issues you guys face. I felt terrible about the bullying, sexual assault, and maliciousness this young beautiful child went through. So I sat down with my 17 year old son and asked had he watched the show. He said No, although everyone at his school was talking about it. So I watched it with him again. It took 3 days, but he became so engrossed with the show, and we had discussions about each episode after watching it. I wanted to know how he felt in regards to objectifying women, was he being bullied, did he know of anyone who is at his school etc. And I found that watching the show with my kid, made him more comfortable discussing things that are going on right now in his life. I personally feel this show is necessary and I urge parents to take some time out of their schedules to watch this with your children. I do however recommend this show for high school aged children, because it's graphic, and very uncomfortable. However you'll be surprised the things you learn about them, and how much of a mental overload it truly is for our children dealing with the day to day "politics" and pressure to fit in, of their high school. I did think that some characters were one dimensional, but my son was pointing out friends and associates of his who he profiled in each character. Very interesting, and I can't recommend it enough. It gets the conversation going with your children on topics and just what's TRULY going on in their lives, that's hard to have. Because you don't want to think that this is really how it is. But sadly it is....
MzShaybutta I commend you for doing that. It would really be nice for parents to watch this with your teen children too.
Youre an excellent mother ❤️
More parents should do this
I just wished 13 reasons why looked more into mental illness rather than just specific pinpointed outside reasons. Like having depression, being bipolar, or anxiety is never discussed explicitly.
True this
YESS. I totally felt that way when I was watching the show. I wondered why they lacked showing Hannah's mindset and how it shifted towards dark thoughts. That needs to be more shown
The shaved head asian looking guy is the most woke one. The show is disturbing and sad and put me in a weird funk the entire week I was watching, but u get over that feeling once its done and the lessons that stay with you are worth it. Also, I agree the suicide scene was disturbing but it had to be! Because the whole show did romanticize suicide and a lot of teens do too because they're dramatic that way. But seeing the actual act in all its gore needed to disturb teens enough that they wouldn't try it. That way they'll think twice when that moment comes of extreme emotion, drama, and romanticism of thinking yay finally when im gone ppl will realize how fucked up they were to me and how sad I was.
No comments on a post 4 years old but i completely agree
@@shivampokar Woah thanks for commenting. I didnt even know this comment had 1.4k likes. So weird reading something I wrote 4 years ago.
@@sabrinavirk702 im just surprised youre still active and replied to my comment this early. Anyway it is always nice to see people stanning for 13rw i mean i do but now a days you cant find a lot of stans which is kinda sad .13rw Fandom has gone to shit. 13rw is just true beauty. I also especially stan for Katherine Langford 😌
If you are a teen struggling with suicidal thoughts for any reason, please don't give up. There is hope. Nothing lasts forever... even pain. Mine didn't. I fought depression for many years, and i won. You can too. Keep fighting. Life is beautiful and totally worth it.
Stacy Stanton Even you are young adults..
Honestly I don't think the idea of the show, 13 Reasons Why, was to glorify depression, death, and suicide. It was a message to us, as teens, to realize things we are doing can have a negative effect on others. The part where Clay was talking to the foreign exchange students, about how no one was worried about suicide before in there school, clarifies this greatly. No one seems to care until something like this happens. Yes, I agree. It is a very strong topic to be dealing with, but it has to be said. Things like this are happening around the world right now- But do we even think of that? No, we don't. We are in a time period where people believe that killing themselves is the only option- It isn't. But, when they feel like no one is there for them? Their own counselor, at the school. Didn't believe or help them with this process of what they were going through. They simply feel as if no one, is there. And that's what the character of the show, and book, Hannah, did. Yes, the show and book could have done so many different things to make it end up differently, where she lives, gets help, and is happy. So she has a happy ending. But that's the thing, there's not always a happy ending. Not when people think that there is. Sure- I understand the points people are making "The show makes it seem as if there's nothing for her to do to help herself". True, it may seem like that. If she had told the right people. What she was doing and what she was feeling, and what she had witnessed. Then it quite possibly could have another outcome. But back to what I have said before, the show was not made like that for a reason. Honestly I believe the show did a great job of making people realize of what is happening throughout the world. And it's having people make a move towards helping those who do need it.
Exactly.
Saying the characters are one dimensional is just false, every character in the show has multiple sides and that's why the show is so good.
AN M your opinion is your opinion bud. And I didn't even notice hannah was wearing a wig lmao if she even was
i agree with Eric so much. her suicide scene made me feel so sick and that's not romanticising it, it's bringing it to life and putting it all out in the open
Jess Raven it glorifies suicide because sometimes people can become suicidal for reasons unrelated to others and it invalidates their issues and the guy had a "if only I had loved her" attitude as though that would have saved her when in reality suicide is much more complicated
Maybe it doesn't glorify suicide if you're not suicidal but shows like this are supposed to show depressed people "hey people can relate to you and you're not alone you can find help" but all 13 reasons why does is glorify revenge suicide
It doesn't glorify suicide, glorifying suicide would be like "YAY HANNAH COMMITED SUICIDE ITS ALL HAPPY AGAIN AND SHE'S NOT DEPRESSED". The show shows how suicide could affect others in negative ways and how suicide could pass the pain on and why kids commit suicide.
"Watching that scene really disturbed me"
Exactly. That was the point.
To show how much suffering a person has to go through that they would put themselves through that and that it's not just a thing for attention or whatever and it's not this beautiful story, it's real and it's awful, and there needs to be more people talking about it and working to prevent it. This is important.
Kaitlynn Marie Thank you. That's my point exactly. The scene was put in to ignite some type of emotion of it you. Even if it's sadness, anger, fear, surprise, or etc. Social imagination is real. People can't think themselves out their own personal problems to see the public issues. Think of all the parents who had children actually commit suicide and had to walk in and find their children like that. I would have a problem if the scene was easy to watch.
everyone saying that there wasn't warning hasn't seen the show. In the graphic episodes it specifically states that viewer discretion is advised
As a mom, this tore me apart. I cried, I was angry, I was sad. I love this show. This also took me back to high school. High School was brutal!
Hs for me is pretty easy , not sure how it was brutal
Schools don't do anything about bullying anymore. Teachers and staff see it all the time and don't do anything about it. This show really shows how school are.
Honestly, how could they say that the suicide scene wasn't necessary? It portrayed brutality and realness- it was raw. And just like Eric, I also nearly threw up watching it. The show would have been lost without this climax- and the fact that the camera didn't shy away from these issues shows bravery. I couldn't agree with Eric more. I would recommend this show to anybody.
Natasha Taylor-Olive i wouldn't recommend it to anyone with suicidal thoughts or a mental illness. the suicide scene literally looked like a how-to guide
Natasha Taylor-Olive To anybody? Even to those who think about suicide? What you're trying to do? Give them a little push?
Natasha Taylor-Olive you're not supposed show impressionable teenagers how to slit their wrists!!
It didn't show them anything, they already know how too!!! It's addressing
People saying the show is stupid:
1) It shows true issues that people like to avoid but happens in real life
2) It COULD help people in that situation, make them feel how great life is...
3) The show helps people come to terms with loss of somebody..
P.S I only wanted to say this because my sister committed suicide and I never really knew why it made me see her perspective, I just wanted to say my opinion because this show has effected me personally! I believe it's important to watch this show! xx
This show is stupid because it doesn't discuss the deeper issue, which is mental illness.
Exactly. at the end of the season Clay says love could have saved her from suicide, but love is not the only reason. A person who commits suicide has mental issues that do not get solved with love and friendship. They need professional help.
I disagree with you.
This show is far from being stupid, it is full of powerfull messages. It's about loving life, being good to people, caring after one another and showing suicide is never an answer because there are always people that care about you.
Have you even watched the entire show or are you just writing something you read somewhere ?
The show does not mention mental illness. It protrays it without needing to say it. It shows how a person can little by little fall into depression without anyone around noticing.
It sends a very important message about how profound suffering is sometimes invisible to others. It is about caring more about one another and be aware of signs that someone is suffering and needs help.
"You are being a Clay right now. Just listen to the tapes." YESSS SO TRUE
this show wasn't meant for people who are going through situations like Hannah. It's meant to make others be aware that their actions can have consequences
Yes but depressed people aren't just going to not watch it if they're interested in it, look at all the children that are playing Grand theft Auto v
That suicide scene was absolutely necessary. People who don't understand what someone is going through need to see that they need to see the struggle someone goes through and the possible outcome of what their harsh words and actions can't effect someone. I've never been to that point but that last episode hurt me to the core I was a snotty mess
alleycat307 agreed. we can't sugar coat suicide, and them showing it was a step towards understanding suicide. yes it was graphic. yes it was gross. yes it was scary. but suicide is all that. we CANNOT hide suicide. we need to tackle it head on and stop people from killing themselves. and if that is through 13 reasons why as a first step. then I applaud.
But it's incredibly triggering for people with mental health issues - it can, in fact, lead to even more suicides. I agree that we need to make people understand how their words affect people, but not in a way that can lead to more people killing themselves.
"Risk of additional suicides increases when the story explicitly describes the suicide method, uses dramatic/graphic headlines or images and repeated/extensive coverage sensationalizes or glamorizes a death." - American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
I mean if it's triggering for you don't watch it? Other than that I agree with the people above the suicide scene was necessary
To those that said they were disturbed by the actual suicide scene, that was the point. You were supposed to be disturbed and become aware of what it is actually like
annabelle p Exactly
I don't believe the show was meant to make a solution for suicide prevention, it was meant to show how the people around one person can dramatically affect the choice that a person can make which could cost them their lives! If you want to look for people talking about solutions, go watch a TED talk but this show isn't a TED talk
brenegade7 it hasn't ever been one.
who watched this after watching the show?
me, I jus finished ep 13
@@MyLifeAsLisaa I've finished it all
All of these opinions are valid. I think it is important that we don't bash others for how they feel about something, but instead, try to understand that people are going to have several varying opinions on a topic as controversial as 13 Reasons Why. What I do know for sure is this: the show has people talking about Suicide, Depression, and the cruel treatment kids can experience in school at a level I have never seen before. So if raising awareness and helping people understand that there is hope were the goals of this particular project, I believe the mission has been accomplished.
you know the world is fucked up when there's a need for tv series to tell you that bullying is wrong
Lord Harambe so true
+charley15z the way I took it is that I thought this show would maybe teach people that it takes more than just words or teasing or whatever small thing insensitive people think causes suicide these days. There's a buildup, a series of events
Lord Harambe u can fix this! Harambe ftw!
I think the suicide scene was really an eye opener for me. It gave me a realization of what people actually go through when they are attempting suicide with the person committing it and the people who find them, especially her parent. The part that really made me cry the most was the part where her mom found her. I can't even imagine my own mother having to do that. It made me realize unlike some other show like Law and Order SVU where you see the aftermath, not the whole gruesome part of it and the pain and agony the person is actually going through. I don't think they romanticize the show at all but really show what happens in day to day life.
I dont have a mom but yeah that made me cry like hell when I saw her come in to see hanna so sad
Lauren DelGiudice I definitely agree.
I completely agree
I was so mad when the girl said she didnt think she executed it well.Alot of those things have happened to me and I felt the exact same as Hannah did in the show,and the suicide I think was so real it shows what happens and could keep people from doing it like when Hannahs mom came in it shows how people could react and could help people to not do it.I think it was great it was graphic very but its true I mean people show notice this issue.
right cause every sucidal kid makes tape to get revenge on those who bullied you. Totally realistic.
Did I say every suicidal kid makes a mix tape to get revenge is realistic,no I didnt.
Schwifty Mcgwifty what exactly do you mean by she “victimizes” herself? Because if I remember correctly she was sexually assaulted and bullied. I don’t see how any of that could have been her fault. I don’t mean to be rude or anything but I just think that the part about her victimizing herself was a little bit unnecessary
@@scottyboy3565 they said that they felt like Hannah bc they went through some of the things Hannah did .not the plot of the movie
The elders should react to 13 reasons why, I'd love to see their point of view on this show!
The point of the series was to ease awareness, to start THAT talk between kids and parents, and they did.
I think the problem with this show is that people dont get this isnt for the hannah's out there to watch, it's for the courtneys, the clays, the justins etc, that's why it's so raw and real, to show the very real consequences of what you might think an inoffensive action can have
lucysp15 exactly!!!
Yes!! I 100% agree.
this is true actually.
The amount of people saying, "13 Reasons Why taught me to be nicer to people." You needed a TV show... to teach you that??
CALcasts exactly my point
CALcasts so true
CALcasts unfortunately there's people like that
CALcasts I was all 🙄
People needed the show to teach them what could happen if we aren't nicer to people.
How were any of these characters one dimensional? Did we watch the same show?
I don't understand how you could think that the suicide scene wasn't necessary, it was completely necessary, and it was shown in such a graphic way to make people realise how horrible and brutal it is in real life. It's not romanticising suicide at all, it's raw such a real representation of what suicide is and what it does to not only the person but the people they care about
i want another columbine too
Latest Obsession I looked away anyway.
Latest Obsession i know i mean people wanna look wanna from it but thats what parents are doing to us kids. they yearn us away from these things even though they happened and still happen
While the producers didn't mean to glamorize suicide, there are depressed kids who will watch it and glamorize it themselves. Suicide is really tricky to portray correctly in media.
Suicide isn't comfortable. Suicide isn't pretty. It was supposed to be graphic! It was to show how suicide can effect you so terribly and deeply. It was MEANT to be disturbing. Like the one kid said if they made it like she took pills or whatever that would be very oh well she swallowed pills she's gone too bad so sad. But you can't forget graphic images of a girl slitting her wrists.
Brittany Larson atleast someone understands me!
I dont think this show romanticized suicide at all. Nothing about this show made it seem appealing. It was all so lonely, and it showed the effects it had on others like your parents. I also think the suicide scene was very important. Not a tutorial, but more like, suicide isnt pretty. It will never be pretty. This is how some people choose to go out, and its not good. It hurts and theres no going back once its done. Its gruesome. The fact that it is so graphic is important. People need to feel the disgust or the sickness from watching it. People need to understand that its not a good way to go. The show definitely doesnt really show how much someone could find help, but at the same time, that makes it more realistic because teenagers have such a hard time asking for help with anything. They dont want to be bullied more or told that theyre being dramatic, which hannah talks about in the tapes. Because they dont want to talk about it, they subtly look for help, but they cant seem to get it because they arent saying it flat out. I cann see why this show is very controversial, but i really think it is important for people to watch this and look at a new view. So many people dont understand that these things are happening every day and we just dont see it.
Lily Purcella And if you want a show that romantizes suicide think about the first season of American horror story or even suicide squad
..... um.. im not sure how to respond to that...
I wasnt saying that this was a great show for people with depression, i forgot to mention that. I think this is a great show for other people who dont get talked to about this stuff to realize that they may not know what they are saying could hurt people or that what they do could have a bigger impact than they meant it too. I think this show blows into a bigger per-portion to those who think suicide and depression is a joke. Like i said i get why this show is controversial. it could have a bad effect on those with depression. I just forgot to mention that in my comment.
The thing about 13 Reasons Why is that no matter how stupid or awfully played out you thought it was it got you paying more attention to what was happening to the people around you, it got you talking about it. It got your teachers talking about suicide and it got parents talking about it. Even if you hated the show it was about suicide, which isn't talked about enough, and it got you to pay attention.
Quinn McNeill PREACH
Quinn McNeill this needs to be the top comment!!!
Bruh that was deep and true this need to talked about so people can know
"A negative portrayal of these issues." Yup these issues are negative, the negativity is the reason this show exists. If you want to see an actual glorified and sugar coated version of this show, then go make it yourself. Because the only way to get the point across is to be as blunt and honest as possible. The only way people will truly understand is by blunt honesty. And even if the show was sugar coated to make everything seem happy and like that type of thing isn't negative, people would still be complaining that "It's glorifying suicide." Or that "Its unrealistic." The fact of the matter is that what the story is based around is negative. You can't make it easier or nicer because then it would ultimately make the show unrealistic and useless. And if you think this shows too gory for kids, remember it isn't a show intended for children.
I completely agree with you! Suicide IS suicide. There's no changing how horrific it is. It can't be sugar coated because ultimately, suicide is NOT sweet!
Ikr, I'm sorry but her opinions on the show were extremely ridiculous. No depression is the same everyone handles situations differently.
Rochelle Cadogan that's how I felt too. Like not everyone is going to react and feel the same way about a specific situation
I think the show is more about every single person who affected Hannah in a certain way, how they got through the realisation of what they've done (for example Courtney was a complete denial through the whole season, Alex attempted suicide because he couldn't find an excuse, Bryce didn't understand anything at all and didn't even see himself as a reason why she did it) and it shows that everybody should be aware of what they're saying or doing to a person.
And the suicide scene clearly was not a romanticization, because it is shown in a sad, depressing and brutal way, we could see how life leaves her body and how she suffers. Don't see anything romantic in it.
Briana Hambor killing herself is not revenge, it's, sadly, the outcome she choose it to be. if hannah baker wanted her death to be a revenge, she would've send the tapes to the police to charge everyone to the fullest. but she didn't. she tried to make them realize what they've done wrong, or what they didn't notice (clay) and done unintentionally. maybe i'm getting the message wrong, maybe you do, maybe we both. anyway, it's completely a personal interpretation and of course the suicide scene and the show in general can be seen as a 'getting it all back' project, unfortunately. depends on the angle you look at it from
I was really disturbed by hannah's suicide scene, at first i didn't know how to react, i didn't know what i was feeling until i bursted into tears. I feel like this scene is really necessary, it's so real, and even i agree that sometimes the show kind of romanticize suicide, this scene bring us back to reality and really shows how awful it is. It really upset me, but i'm glad i saw because i saw that suicide is not necessarily a relief (i mean of course but you understand) and i wasn't completely aware of that. I knew, but this scene made me feel hannah's pain to my very core and i was very shook
Ines N. I definitely agree
Ines N. The suicide scene is not necessary, you're not supposed to show impressionable teenagers suicide what don't people get?
I agree because it shows how truly awful and depressed someone must feel to put themselves through that much physical pain to relieve themselves from the world. It's and awful concept to think about and showing that scene makes you understand the sheer amount of pain she is in.
I don't think many people watched the 14th episode on netflix where all the producers explained why they did certian scenes. It makes everything make more scenes. you should all go watch it now.
watching the suicide scene was horrible and her parent's reaction seeing her like that made my heart ache. it made me promise that no matter what i would never do that to myself let alone my parents. so no i think that the scene was important to show the people that might romanticize it that the aftermath isnt so great.
There is nothing controversial about this series, its just real and people can't handle that.
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i personally struggle with anxiety and depression and i watched the whole season. i could relate to hannah in many ways. even the smallest things said or done could cause major problems, because people don't realise that every person is in a different mental health state and handles that differently. me personally when i have only the smallest fights with people i care about i break down completely.
people need to understand that a mental illness is as serious as a physical illness
thisistessa, preach
I actually have anxiety and i had trouble with the season, i watched very slowly because it made me very anxious, but i never thought that i wanted to do that. I just realise about the problems of her and y feel bad about her and i feel bad about his parents and about me... But it helped me a lot, i don't really know how, but it helped me to continue my life instead of ending it. I don't think the suicide part surplus and i don't think the series should not be seen by "children" because i'm a girl and it helped more than anyone c: ((Sorry for the bad english i speak spanish hasbh))
Wait a minute, one of the people in this video mentioned, "If you're going to watch it, just know that it is a very negative portrayal",,,, Um... SERIOUSLY?! How positive do you want it to be? So you think sugar-coating it and not showing the graphic nature would all of a sudden raise awareness?? I'm just completely baffled at that statement. THIS IS REALITY. It's not a fantasy world where people that are actually going through this take their lives in the most peaceful way you can think of, like injecting themselves with morphine. SMH
I personally don't feel like this show romanticises or glorifies suicide. Yes the scene was brutal and horrible to watch but that was the point. I've personally been struggling with anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts for a long time now, and that scene made me really shy away from suicide as being an option, and that also made me think that I didn't want to end up like that. And it's actually made me get the proper help I needed. Don't get me wrong I understand where the criticism is coming from, but it's important to show these things. And to the younger people watching it, the series is under "Adult" on Netflix so I also feel like it's the viewers responsibility. To the people reading this that may be depressed or suicidal, it's okay to not be okay, and you are NOT weak for getting help, and I believe in you! Stay strong!
Thought the suicide scene was good and i am glad they put it in. It was so uncomfortable to watch and that is a good thing.
Anna That makes two of us (anxiety, depression, and scuicide like thought):/
Anna You too!i don't even know you be well get through this together
I don't understand this teenagers who are against this show. I think they don't really wanted to get in the perspective of Hannah...
The producers wanted that everybody change their perspectives and really think about it and I think that wouldn't affect everybody without this important scenes
Toni Larissa people are allowed to have their own opinion tho
The clique Frens Of course, but I thought it was strange the first thing some of them said about such an powerful series was "I don't think it is good" or "it was bad"
As dealing with Bullying, Depression, Suicidal thoughts and self harm. It was very relatable to me and panful to watch. But it reminded me to keep living. I related to Hannah on a personal level.
Be strong.
Bhavdeep Singh Thank you! ❤
Bhavdeep Singh Thank you! ❤
It related to me as well. All that helped me get through those things was finding my self-worth and my purpose in life. I know you will figure yours out as well!
Kaithlyn_
Have a great day :-)
Sincerely, stranger from Scotland
the suicide scene is graphic. but think of the whole show without that scene. would you be as affected as you are now? Suicide is not easy and we can't continue to sugarcoat it.
Thank you finally someone who understands the incredibly importance of that scene! all the idiots who say it was too graphic are idiots because it had to be shown to truly tell the story and highlight how horrible suicide is and how much pain the people who commit it must've felt to want to go through with it
Delilah Fuentes the issue is for the people who glorify self harm and suicide. Who want to hurt themselves and see this as a "how to" on how to do it. Showing it that graphically is not necessary and just gives people in that mental state ideas on how to harm themselves more
+beccasmith If someone is actually thinking about killing themselves or even harming themselves then this scene will at least shock them and show them that it is NOT this romantic way to go but brutal, lonely and painful. Besides, people who feel like they need to harm themselves will just do it in some way or another - they won't look up a tutorial or watch a show thinking "That's how I'm gonna do it."
the most devastating scene from the show was the mom coming into the restroom, finding hannah, being like 'oh its gonna be ok honey'. it wasn't gonna be ok.
I think an important part that people are missing is the fact that Hanna did look for help. Right when she felt that she couldn't take it anymore so went to the only place she could think of the guidance counselor. She was met with a person totally not qualified to help her. In the end instead of getting the help she needed from him she got another push in the direction of suicide. She didn't really want to do it she just wanted all the bad things to stop. She wanted someone to say I'm here for you and want to help you. If just one person had done that I think could have changed everything for Hanna. Even the smallest kind gesture can change someone's life. I think this show is very important for everyone to watch but you have to be in the right state of mind.
I honestly feel Hannah's suicide scene was important for the exact fact that it was disturbing. That scene, and then the one of her mother finding her, gutted me more than anything else in the show. It was very impactful and I feel that it made her situation more real than if they'd omitted it.
RileyChick18 I can see why you would think it's important. But as a person who has attempted suicide, and used to engage in self harm, that episode fucked me up. It was too graphic, it was triggering and made me very very depressed.
RileyChick18 I had to skip this scene because it was too real, especially the reaction of her parents, I just couldn't watch it
I completely agree with Seth. I feel the harsh truth to this topic is that it simply cannot be glorified. 13 Reasons Why in my opinion did a strong job at not shying away from the smallest cracks in the issue, and tried to show every last aspect in the show. It certainly wasn't beautified, but more so revealing into the graphic and hard truth of suicide. And I personally loved the show and it is helping me a lot going through my struggles in high school
Unpopular opinion: everyone seems to relate to Hannah and how she was bullied, but I don't see a lot of people actually relating to the others, the "reasons why". To me, at least, the main point of the show is for you to realize how your actions affect other people, and so, you won't be a reason why for anybody.
I relate to Alex
This is EXTREMELY relatable in my opinion. the jocks and star students get all of the attention even from teachers, they act as if each school now is against bullying yet you see kids around the halls being talked about or having cuts on their wrists. whether or not this happens exactly like this, it hits home for every kind of school these days even colleges and I'm very happy that it was finally addressed how hard it is already to be a teen let alone go through stuff like this daily all over the world. Such an accurate representation and an important message