Very cool and very neat to see that Porter fly! I built that same kit but I only built it for display (I work on Pilatus aircraft for a living). I used to build the Guillows kits and try to fly them, but the only one I could ever get to fly even remotely well was the Typhoon. Well done to all of you gentlemen and thank you for sharing this event. Please keep this going.
Thank you for posting this video. There were some really nice models, great flights, and for some an opportunity to trim with the sage advice of the collective experience of those at the field. Truly, a fellowship of the air!
Zu sehen, daß im Zeitalter von ferngesteuerten High-Tech-Dronen immer noch so viele Leute ungesteuerste Gummiband-Flugzeuge bauen finde ich inspirierend. Letztlich geht es doch darum, zu verstehen, was man tut- und Freude daran zu haben.
Mama always said, life is like a box of chocolates. Seeing so many different scale models, is too. I'm sitting here thinking about how people have been enjoying this passtime for around 200 years. Nice to see that the weather improved.
Forgot to say that this reminds me of the film, "Flight of the Pheonix", and the character "Heinrich Dorfmann". Dorfmannn says the following,. "In 1851, Henson and Stringfellow built a rubber-powered model that flew 600 meters before encountering an obstruction. Aerofoil surfaces, lift and drag coefficients... ...weight-thrust equations and the whole pattern of modern aviation... ...originates from right there."
You can see demonstrated the proper center of gravity calculations and balancing the aircrafts within the calculated CG range. Too tail heavy and you get climbs and dives. Too nose heavy and you get a downward trajectory. Just right and your aircraft climbs straight and level to altitude in a graceful display of all forces in proper balance. 🤔🧐🛩
I like Switzerland. There are some weird places and people but for the most part it's pretty nice. Beautiful mountains. Visited Ranft where St. Nicholas of Flue lived. And other places. St. Gallen is really neat. I like the music the guy is playing in his car while driving to the flight club.
Thanks for sharing..looked to have been a fun day at a very nice glider port. I could hear rubber motors banging inside some models..meaning the CG is constantly changing causing stalling..but I am sure you know this..perhaps changing motor size or length ...hope to see more...
He burns the glow cord of the thermal brake. If the cord becomes shorter during the flight, a small rubber ring that locks the tail wing in place burns through. The rear wing then folds up at the trailing edge and the model comes down. This is a thermal brake or dethermaliser (DT)
I know it's an older video, but could I get some information on the PZL P.24 shown in 2.50-3.05 minute? Like what plans, motor, availability, etc? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Great models.👍
The model was built and flown by George Kandylakis. It's best to ask him on his channel, he has made several videos of this model. th-cam.com/video/USFp__WmlPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nxYcuXJ9SyNEWY3n
It burns the glow cord of the thermal brake. If the cord becomes shorter during the flight, a small rubber ring that locks the tail wing in place burns through. The rear wing then folds up at the trailing edge and the model comes down. This is a thermal brake or dethermaliser (DT)
Hats off to Everyone for keeping Aeromodeling Alive & Rocking. In India there are very few of your kind left. The cute Navy Blue Model 2.30 secs - 3.00 secs stands out. Could you please mention details of the Location, Whether it's a Annual Event. If possible please share details of the Cute Blue Aeromodel. Regards, Sushil M. Adhikari, India 👍🙏
Thank you and greetings to India. Several friends have found their way back to rubber powered free flight after years with RC. The model in question is George Kandylakis' PZL P.24G Hellenic Air Force. You can see more of this model on George's channel: th-cam.com/video/USFp__WmlPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gLkN6J0-nYI09inZ. The event usually takes place twice a year in Olten, Switzerland. The current dates and the invitation can be seen after the date is announced on www.gummimotor.ch
Let me ask a technical question to an expert, what is the difference between an elastic plane for outdoor flight and one for indoor flight? Let me explain, I see on TH-cam many models like peanuts that fly both extremely and in gyms, but in indoor flight it seems to go much slower and gentler, propeller with a different pitch?
A weaker rubber is flown indoors to avoid hitting the hall ceiling. The stabilising V-shape of the wing can also be smaller as there is no wind. And thirdly, indoor models can be built with a little lighter wood as the model does not have to be shaken from a tree...
I ask you a courtesy, I would also like to get closer to this splendid world, I fly RC but free elastic flight fascinates me, it is the essence of aeromodelling. What would you recommend for me to get started? I was thinking of a Dumas or Guillow model, unfortunately here in Italy you can't find them much. Thank you
I would definitely recommend a functional model to get you started. For example, an Ace from Keil Kraft. If you are an experienced builder, you can also start directly with a plan on outerzone e.g. outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1344. This will get you up in the air faster and you can acquire skills for scale models. I can also recommend a book: Rubber powered model airplanes by Don Ross. I started with this book...😁
The whole thing is supposed to be free-flight. Flying in is sometimes quite difficult. But then the model should fly independently for a good 20 seconds.
Those flights are beautiful as I'm watching the TH-cam video I'm thinking of the movie flight of the Phoenix with Jimmy Stewart & Hardy Krüger the airplane designer 😌👍🏻✨ Krueger in the movie relates a story about John Stringfellow in June 1848 he achieve seemingly impossible with his steam airplane flew the length of a discuss the distance of the mil's length in the center of town string fellow came within a whisker of immortality except for the one thing he himself did not fly his airplane what would be called a drone a powered glider with no pilot. And in the movie Hardy Krüger was a model plane designer which Jimmy Stewart and his copilot and everyone else be rated him but he said there's nothing different you could scale it up the model to full size and he proved it and it few they all survived they got out of the desert
Did you know that the aircraft they built and flew in that movie actually crashed later on and killed the stunt pilot flying it? It's back broke on a rough landing and crushed the pilot. Sometimes the inertia involved with larger, heavier engines and airframes play an 8mportant part, but you are correct, from a flying configuration perspective, they are very similar.
There is a misunderstanding. The Co2 cartridges that can also be used to make sparkling water can also be used to fill small pressurised tanks. These can be used to power models with small piston motors. Hence the title: Rubber or Co2 powered is meant. The PZL P.24 at 2:28 is powered by it. More about the Co2 drive : facebook.com/groups/1485693254944963/
@@Tag-Traeumer Am liebsten wäre mir Luftdruckmotor 😁 Nur : Wenn der Tank mit der Fahrradpumpe aufgepumpt wird ist da immer auch noch Feuchtigkeit dabei und die bekommt den feinen Motoren schlecht
@@rubberfly So muss man halt ab und zu ein Missverständnis wegen des CO2s aufklären. Ist ja noch lustig, was Leute meinen, gelesen zu haben. 🙂 Ein Luftdruckantrieb mit gleichem Arbeitsvermögen wäre durch den Hochdruck-Tank sicher auch schwer, viel schwerer als ein CO2- oder Gummimotor. Sonst hätte man Luftmotoren vor der Lithium-Batterie-Zeit gesehen. Dabei wäre einfach selbst Luft Nachfüllen praktisch und billig, und störende Feuchtigkeit liesse sich mit einem Absorptionsmittel-Filter vermeiden.
The scale in the beautiful scenery stands out.
Very cool and very neat to see that Porter fly! I built that same kit but I only built it for display (I work on Pilatus aircraft for a living). I used to build the Guillows kits and try to fly them, but the only one I could ever get to fly even remotely well was the Typhoon. Well done to all of you gentlemen and thank you for sharing this event. Please keep this going.
Beautiful setting, wonderful aircraft, and great comaraderie
Thank you 😁
Fascinating. I had a spitfire when I was a child that was a kiel Kraft model. Makes me want one again.
Same for me, but It was a a6m2 zero. I want it
Thank you for posting this video. There were some really nice models, great flights, and for some an opportunity to trim with the sage advice of the collective experience of those at the field. Truly, a fellowship of the air!
Thank you for watching!
How fun!
I wish I could be there.
Excellent flying
What marvelous models! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Great flying in heavy air. The hardest part is waiting for them to dry off to fly again! Great still shots too.
Thank you very much! It wasn't that bad wet. We could fly our fill😁
Peanut scale balsa is such a great hobby. Years ago I used a Bit /char G rc car pager motor and the magnet steering for rudder. Nice location.
Proof that we can go through a full life, get older and wiser while keeping a child soul. thanks for the video !
I always say..
"You're never too old to have a happy childhood"
Zu sehen, daß im Zeitalter von ferngesteuerten High-Tech-Dronen immer noch so viele Leute ungesteuerste Gummiband-Flugzeuge bauen finde ich inspirierend. Letztlich geht es doch darum, zu verstehen, was man tut- und Freude daran zu haben.
I have forgotten how wonderful some of these aero planes can fly
What a beautiful place to fly
Beatiful planes, real decication to the hobby..
Thank you 😁
Danke! Einfache Freude!
I like how this is a nice quiet hobby. Very nice!
Thank you!
Very nice video. Thank you!
🎵"The hills are alive...
With the sound of... silence."😁
Thank you ! 😁
Mama always said, life is like a box of chocolates. Seeing so many different scale models, is too. I'm sitting here thinking about how people have been enjoying this passtime for around 200 years. Nice to see that the weather improved.
Forgot to say that this reminds me of the film, "Flight of the Pheonix", and the character "Heinrich Dorfmann". Dorfmannn says the following,.
"In 1851, Henson and Stringfellow
built a rubber-powered model that flew 600 meters before encountering an obstruction.
Aerofoil surfaces, lift
and drag coefficients...
...weight-thrust equations and
the whole pattern of modern aviation...
...originates from right there."
You can see demonstrated the proper center of gravity calculations and balancing the aircrafts within the calculated CG range. Too tail heavy and you get climbs and dives. Too nose heavy and you get a downward trajectory. Just right and your aircraft climbs straight and level to altitude in a graceful display of all forces in proper balance. 🤔🧐🛩
I like Switzerland. There are some weird places and people but for the most part it's pretty nice. Beautiful mountains. Visited Ranft where St. Nicholas of Flue lived. And other places. St. Gallen is really neat. I like the music the guy is playing in his car while driving to the flight club.
What are some of the weird places?
Beautiful!
Thank you!
Tempat yang sangat indah untuk terbang. 🥰🥰🙏🙏
Terima kasih Aidan. 😁
i used to build those Guillows kits and I could never understand why they refused to fly.
somehow they managed to find balsa that weighs more than oak
Thanks for sharing..looked to have been a fun day at a very nice glider port. I could hear rubber motors banging inside some models..meaning the CG is constantly changing causing stalling..but I am sure you know this..perhaps changing motor size or length ...hope to see more...
Thank you! Yes, we really had a lot of fun.
Awesome!!!
Makes me want to dust off all my old unfinished projects. Great video!
Perfect! Thank you 😁
Piękny model PZL 24. Brawo. Pozdrawiam Andrzej.
wonderful
piekny model Polskiego samolotu P-24 w barwach lotnictwa Grecji (2;40) pozdrawiam autora tego modelu!!!!
George Kandylakis ! th-cam.com/video/USFp__WmlPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JDGps5J5ZicP-L-6
Lovely video. What was the glowing part of the aircraft lit by lighter?
He burns the glow cord of the thermal brake. If the cord becomes shorter during the flight, a small rubber ring that locks the tail wing in place burns through. The rear wing then folds up at the trailing edge and the model comes down. This is a thermal brake or dethermaliser (DT)
I know it's an older video, but could I get some information on the PZL P.24 shown in 2.50-3.05 minute? Like what plans, motor, availability, etc? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Great models.👍
The model was built and flown by George Kandylakis. It's best to ask him on his channel, he has made several videos of this model. th-cam.com/video/USFp__WmlPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nxYcuXJ9SyNEWY3n
Here is his Facebook group : facebook.com/groups/1485693254944963
Thank you very much.
sehr schön! Gruess us Oschtkanada...
Danke vöu mou! Es Grüessli us em Oberaargau.
Very cool airplanes! What is the guy doing at 7:45?
It burns the glow cord of the thermal brake. If the cord becomes shorter during the flight, a small rubber ring that locks the tail wing in place burns through. The rear wing then folds up at the trailing edge and the model comes down. This is a thermal brake or dethermaliser (DT)
Bellissimo video, li avevo dimenticati. Negli anni 70-80 li facevo anch'io, forse volavano un po' meno. GRAZIE.
Grazie mille per il suo gentilissimo commento. Lo apprezzo molto.
Hats off to Everyone for keeping Aeromodeling Alive & Rocking. In India there are very few of your kind left. The cute Navy Blue Model 2.30 secs - 3.00 secs stands out. Could you please mention details of the Location, Whether it's a Annual Event. If possible please share details of the Cute Blue Aeromodel. Regards, Sushil M. Adhikari, India 👍🙏
Thank you and greetings to India. Several friends have found their way back to rubber powered free flight after years with RC. The model in question is George Kandylakis' PZL P.24G Hellenic Air Force. You can see more of this model on George's channel: th-cam.com/video/USFp__WmlPM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gLkN6J0-nYI09inZ.
The event usually takes place twice a year in Olten, Switzerland. The current dates and the invitation can be seen after the date is announced on www.gummimotor.ch
@@rubberfly Thanks for the prompt response. Will save web page and keep myself updated. 🙏👍
My boy had an air pump up plane.
Which had a plastic piston motor.
And we lost it.
What is the plane at 8:30. Looks like a great place to fly
This is my UTE. You can find a video of the first joins here : th-cam.com/video/OOv0e8lTXaE/w-d-xo.html
I subscribed straight away.
Greetings from Dordrecht!
Thank you! Greetings from cold Switzerland.
Lovely
Thank you 😁
Tutti stupendi, ma il dornier è speciale
Grazie mille. La prossima volta questo aereo avrà più esperienza di volo.
Let me ask a technical question to an expert, what is the difference between an elastic plane for outdoor flight and one for indoor flight? Let me explain, I see on TH-cam many models like peanuts that fly both extremely and in gyms, but in indoor flight it seems to go much slower and gentler, propeller with a different pitch?
A weaker rubber is flown indoors to avoid hitting the hall ceiling. The stabilising V-shape of the wing can also be smaller as there is no wind. And thirdly, indoor models can be built with a little lighter wood as the model does not have to be shaken from a tree...
For v-shape you mean the wing dihedral, I think...
Yes dihedral..Personally I haven't built a peanut for indoor yet, so I'm really not an expert.@@alessandropepoli4320
I ask you a courtesy, I would also like to get closer to this splendid world, I fly RC but free elastic flight fascinates me, it is the essence of aeromodelling. What would you recommend for me to get started? I was thinking of a Dumas or Guillow model, unfortunately here in Italy you can't find them much. Thank you
I would definitely recommend a functional model to get you started. For example, an Ace from Keil Kraft. If you are an experienced builder, you can also start directly with a plan on outerzone e.g. outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1344. This will get you up in the air faster and you can acquire skills for scale models. I can also recommend a book: Rubber powered model airplanes by Don Ross. I started with this book...😁
cool
😎
rubber power ff is like coconut water, harmless and good for you.
Why don't you attach string or twine or wire of some sort so as to keep the craft aloft longer and have more control?
The whole thing is supposed to be free-flight. Flying in is sometimes quite difficult. But then the model should fly independently for a good 20 seconds.
Thats cool
👍
thats what i need
thank you very mutch 😁
Those flights are beautiful as I'm watching the TH-cam video I'm thinking of the movie flight of the Phoenix with Jimmy Stewart & Hardy Krüger the airplane designer 😌👍🏻✨ Krueger in the movie relates a story about John Stringfellow in June 1848 he achieve seemingly impossible with his steam airplane flew the length of a discuss the distance of the mil's length in the center of town string fellow came within a whisker of immortality except for the one thing he himself did not fly his airplane what would be called a drone a powered glider with no pilot. And in the movie Hardy Krüger was a model plane designer which Jimmy Stewart and his copilot and everyone else be rated him but he said there's nothing different you could scale it up the model to full size and he proved it and it few they all survived they got out of the desert
Did you know that the aircraft they built and flew in that movie actually crashed later on and killed the stunt pilot flying it? It's back broke on a rough landing and crushed the pilot. Sometimes the inertia involved with larger, heavier engines and airframes play an 8mportant part, but you are correct, from a flying configuration perspective, they are very similar.
@@vumba1331 Tragic. I didn't know that.
Keil Kraft kits rule!
Still!
Salut c'est bon
Merci 😁
cool models... but the landings were painful to watch ^^;
you're right...
Some people can trim ,some can’t 😂
Bring your passport when flying a Kiel Kraft,
it may land in another country.
I'll keep this one in mind!🤣
Boring
I would have said the same thing 20 years ago 😁
YES! to freeflight No! to R.C.
Makes a dude feel totally inadiquite!
I don't understand...
CO2 free? Than better walking to your location instead of driving with a car! Why not name it what it is: free flight!
There is a misunderstanding. The Co2 cartridges that can also be used to make sparkling water can also be used to fill small pressurised tanks. These can be used to power models with small piston motors. Hence the title: Rubber or Co2 powered is meant. The PZL P.24 at 2:28 is powered by it. More about the Co2 drive : facebook.com/groups/1485693254944963/
Thanks for the comment, by the way. I have adjusted the title.
@@rubberfly 😄 CO2, ein verdächtiger Begriff. Vielleicht ab jetzt besser Kohlensäuregasmotor oder Druckgasmotor sagen, um niemanden zu provozieren.
@@Tag-Traeumer Am liebsten wäre mir Luftdruckmotor 😁 Nur : Wenn der Tank mit der Fahrradpumpe aufgepumpt wird ist da immer auch noch Feuchtigkeit dabei und die bekommt den feinen Motoren schlecht
@@rubberfly So muss man halt ab und zu ein Missverständnis wegen des CO2s aufklären. Ist ja noch lustig, was Leute meinen, gelesen zu haben. 🙂 Ein Luftdruckantrieb mit gleichem Arbeitsvermögen wäre durch den Hochdruck-Tank sicher auch schwer, viel schwerer als ein CO2- oder Gummimotor. Sonst hätte man Luftmotoren vor der Lithium-Batterie-Zeit gesehen. Dabei wäre einfach selbst Luft Nachfüllen praktisch und billig, und störende Feuchtigkeit liesse sich mit einem Absorptionsmittel-Filter vermeiden.