Tony! a Nobler is exactly the right thing to do! very nostalgic, yet a good airplane, a modern powerplant and it's a winner! Stay away from a Fox unless that's a part of the experience you're after! LOL. Welcome back to Control line, These are the good old days!
Get vid and nice interview by Bruce Perry. Interesting history and historical perspective on stuff like Candy Apple Red paint back in the day! Fabulous planes.You are so fortunate to have a great club. Keep it going up there folks. Buffalo NY .
Thanks Michael, It was lots of fun to build and it's a great airplane in the air. I won the 2022 NW regionals in classic with it. Two Much has only ever had one second place and won every other contest it entered.
Dan! Great to hear from you! I had tried to call the number on the old Winship Models bellcrank package awhile ago, as you know it has changed. Shoot me an email at madpilot170@gmail.com It's Bruce Perry BTW....
Great to see CL is not dead. My childhood in the early 60s was spent on Thunderbird Bob Palmer and Nobler by George Aldridge designs. AT that time 35 Fox were the motors to use.Beautiful models. This is from Johannesburg SA.
Hi Ken! Great to hear from you is SA! youtube is a great tool. There are some more CL vids here on the channel. If you search two much and Bruce perry there are a couple more vids on youtube. our club is on FB under Alberta Control line flying club if you would like to see more of our stuff. Thanks for the good words.
Hi! thanks for the kind words, it's a great airplane and while its a lot to hold on to, it's a very predictable and consistent performer. Glad you liked the video.
Really nice video. Gorgeous models! At last! someone who knows how to film control line!!! I appreciate that it is difficult but this is a stellar effort. Big props to the filmer!! Thanks for sharing😁 👍
The only thing missing was the smell of nitro-methane. That really took me back. I only once flew stunt. I mainly flew combat and rat race which was highly competitive back in Sydney Australia in the 70's. I have since taken up R/C modelling due to this Covid debacle. Great video and some beautiful models. Many laser cutters are reproducing kits from the 70's and 80's which suits me.
Thanks Dennis, It's so much fun to fly, the sound in the centre of the circle is very inspiring. I've had many really cool airplanes but this one certainly a favourite! Thanks for the kind words!
Canadian modelers are so with it! The coolness of this antique mode of flight is undoubtedly lost on most American rc "pilots" Very cool! From a not so proud American...
Hi! thanks for the good words! If you're on YT, search "control line" I think it will surprise you the vast number of videos and the world wide depth of our part of the hobby. You're absolutely correct the current group of rc enthusiasts are no longer "modellers". The hobby has become "toys R us for bigger boys". Control line Stunt is still an event where builder of the model rule still exists at a national level. This generally means we have to build our entries. Thus, you see some really cool unique stuff. Thanks again for the good comments!
Beut of a plane!!! You fellas seem to have a great CL club there in Alberta. I am in SK, I would love to come out sometime & learn a bit from you guys.
HI James! sure! It would be great to have you come out!!! ACFC encourages All Modelers with an interest to reach out to us. We are on Facebook as Alberta Controlline Flying Club. or you can reach me directly at madpilot170@gmail.com I'm Bruce the chatty guy in the video. Let me know when you're coming and we can chat about what's going on. Speak soon.
Back in the 60’s I bought a COX Control-line Bush plane that came with wheels, skies, and pontoons. Unfortunately without any clubs in the area I was never able to get that plane airborne. Between control-line flying vs RC flying I would think control-line would give the pilot a better feel for how plane was flying over a RC control plane. Are there many people who fly both control-line and RC aircrafts?
Hey Joel! thanks for coming by the Channel. I have had the inboard quit first several times, the first time I was pretty excited! I ran around whipping the model in case it would turn in!!! It didn't have any tendency to yaw wildly at all! Two Much has a LONG tail and big v-fin. So whether inside or outside, it continues along happily! I have metered the fuel loads now so that the engines shut down very closely to together. That's a cool look.
@@magicvids6771 Magic, I fly and teach flying in twin engine (real) airplanes so I am cognizant of engine out flying. I started flying control line models in 1962 at ag 12 and those models led me to a 55 year long career as a pilot including 29 years flying for United Airlines. I have always believed that my flying career started the day I was able to fly a full tank of fuel without crashing my Baby Ringmaster in March of 1962. You were smart to meter fuel loads and have a long tail fin. Those are what kept you out of trouble when the critical engine, which is what we call the engine that has the greatest effect if it fails, on your plane, quit. I once built a 1/2 A model with two engines and always started the outboard engine first, which I think is what you do when you say you meter the fuel loads. I still have a Baby Ringmaster on a stand in my office, but have not flown it yet. I really love control line flying and would never fly R/C. Hey, I fly the real ones!
Control line brings me back to when I was a kid.But I quickly upgraded to R/C which is more realistic.Planes don't fly with strings attached to them.Im not picking on that aspect of the hobby,I just love R/C much better.I also never mastered control line I always crashed and got dizzy.
Control Line isn't for everyone, it takes an intense focus and the difference between a 6 foot pullout and a crash is a split second! Generally, most control line models are built by the flier and not an ARF. This adds a great deal to the event as it takes great courage to risk hundreds of hours doing what we do. Recently, we have had a few RC guys upgrade their modeling experiences and join Control line.
Great footage showing some real skill from those polits. We don't have as many resources in the UK for this disappearing type of model aircraft; my Dehavilland Mosquito is as yet unflown and am curious to whether my two McCoy 35 Redheads it was intended for are really capable. - What are your thoughts with these engines?
Hi Tim, thanks for the kind words. Which Mossie did you build? the Jack Sheeks version? I have another big twin with two OS 35S engines and it's plenty for that! I'm sure the two McCoys would be A-ok! Let me know if you would like to chat about it! Bruce
Un joli modèle et original et en plus il vole bien, pour l'autre modèle c'est du classique, mais il vole bien aussi, cela doit faire drôle d'avoir au bout de bras le modèle, et de sentir les vibrations !!
Beautiful twin engined airplane. Great flight. The sound is amazing. One question. Is there a reason to have the engines run both in the same sense? Wouldn't it be helpful to have them contra rotating for precession and gyroscopic effects? Keep up the good work!!
Hi Paul, the original had two foxes in 1966 so this keeps with the authenticity as well as there seems to be very little negative effect with two engines turning the same way. Thanks for the good words.
Hi Earl. That’s happened many times. It’s really a nonevent. There is a slight change in yaw but it doesn’t become difficult to control in anyway. The thrust lines are near the fuse centre and this helps too. Thanks for reaching out. Let me know if you have any questions!
Control line is a significant step up from RC and many persons find it difficult to transition. This is much more intense flying than being several hundred feet up and flying circuits over and over. I think you would enjoy the challenge of control line. Let us know if you have any questions.
Never understood control line. It was initially free-flight for me as a kid until later in life when I was able to afford R/C. Endless circles was Not my bag. Although some of these reverses are cool.
Big difference in control line is that you actually feel the airplane in your hand -- something you don't get with free-flight or RC. May not be a big thing for most, but when I flew these things as a kid, that solid, vibrating pull against your hand combined with the nearby engine noise was something else -- and a cause of panic if the lines got slack and the pull went away, meaning you better get them tight again pretty quick or else. Hard to explain but you really got the sense YOU were actually flying. Sadly, noise complaints from neighbors ultimately grounded us kids. But can well understand it's not everyone's cup of tea.
@@philmann3476 I think the most important thing to remember is that regardless whether we do free flight, R/C, or U-Control, we are in this hobby because we love airplans.
Hi Joe, Thanks for asking. The reason we all fly the same routine is because we are competing to see who does the routine the best. The Pattern is the same internationally, it was developed in the USA in 1952 and has been pretty much the same since. Much like golf, the perfect flight is elusive! However, a hole in one for us is devastating! LOL I hope this answers what you were looking for!
Je ne comprends pas comment des pilotes puissent encore s'adonner à cette activité complètement révolue, passée de mode et obsolète. Je trouve ça ridicule
Flew a Nobler back in the 60s....this brings back memories.
I also flew a Nobler in the 70’s, or it flew me, not completely sure…….😊
Thanks for the great video. I’m picking up a nobler tomorrow so hoping to relive the good old days.
Tony! a Nobler is exactly the right thing to do! very nostalgic, yet a good airplane, a modern powerplant and it's a winner! Stay away from a Fox unless that's a part of the experience you're after! LOL. Welcome back to Control line, These are the good old days!
You'll be impressed by the price of today's kits--the same ones which, back in our youths were quite affordable to teenagers.
Get vid and nice interview by Bruce Perry. Interesting history and historical perspective on stuff like Candy Apple Red paint back in the day! Fabulous planes.You are so fortunate to have a great club. Keep it going up there folks. Buffalo NY .
The operation of the retracts just put a smile on my face, superb!
Thanks!, it's a favourite of mine too, especially when they come down!!! LOL
Control total! Excelente vuelo! Gracias! Me encanta!
Absolutely spectacular. Takes me back to my childhood.
Many compliments! Beautiful model!!!
That is quite amazing, i know the pattern. Excellent performance.
Thank you! It's a great airplane and always gathers a crowd when it's flown.
Wicked plane! What a treat watching it fly!
Thanks Michael, It was lots of fun to build and it's a great airplane in the air. I won the 2022 NW regionals in classic with it. Two Much has only ever had one second place and won every other contest it entered.
Superb guys. A real step back in time for most of us yet very cool even for today!
Greetings to all of you up north. Loved the great video. Entertaining and informative.
Dan! Great to hear from you! I had tried to call the number on the old Winship Models bellcrank package awhile ago, as you know it has changed. Shoot me an email at madpilot170@gmail.com It's Bruce Perry BTW....
Some great looking planes!!
Great to see CL is not dead. My childhood in the early 60s was spent on Thunderbird Bob Palmer and Nobler by George Aldridge designs. AT that time 35 Fox were the motors to use.Beautiful models. This is from Johannesburg SA.
Hi Ken! Great to hear from you is SA! youtube is a great tool. There are some more CL vids here on the channel. If you search two much and Bruce perry there are a couple more vids on youtube. our club is on FB under Alberta Control line flying club if you would like to see more of our stuff. Thanks for the good words.
That twin is amazing and the flyer has amazing skill.
Hi! thanks for the kind words, it's a great airplane and while its a lot to hold on to, it's a very predictable and consistent performer. Glad you liked the video.
Fantastic!!! Love this control line planes and the pilots are very very skilled👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Juergen! Thanks for the kind words!
Really nice video. Gorgeous models! At last! someone who knows how to film control line!!! I appreciate that it is difficult but this is a stellar effort. Big props to the filmer!! Thanks for sharing😁 👍
The only thing missing was the smell of nitro-methane. That really took me back. I only once flew stunt. I mainly flew combat and rat race which was highly competitive back in Sydney Australia in the 70's. I have since taken up R/C modelling due to this Covid debacle. Great video and some beautiful models. Many laser cutters are reproducing kits from the 70's and 80's which suits me.
thanks Peter!
I had a few Rat Racers in the early 70's too. Also, currently flying R/C as well.
The only problem with those lazer cut kits are the PRICE!! ( they are HORRIBLY expensive) a kit you used to pay $14.95 for are now over $100.00 !!!
That ship is Beautiful !! The landing gear design is Awesome !! Thanks for sharing 👍🏻😎
Thanks for the good comments! It recently won the Classic Stunt event at the Northwest Regionals in Oregon.
Control line stunters are gorgeous airplanes with the beautiful paint jobs applied.
In C/L Stunt, there is a strong emphasis on professionalism. Points and trophies are awarded.
Really great flying, lovely aircrafts. This video is pure class. (Love the background music too)
Thanks for the kind words!
Dang, Love that Twin!
Thanks Dennis, It's so much fun to fly, the sound in the centre of the circle is very inspiring. I've had many really cool airplanes but this one certainly a favourite! Thanks for the kind words!
Well now...this brings back old memories! I fly rc now and control line flying like these folks looks way harder!!!!!!
That's some bad ass control line flying there
Божественный звук! Браво автору модели!
Beautifull.planes, beautiful flying...
well done… building and flying!
Thanks! it was lots of fun to build Two Much. Even more to Fly it!
What a great video 👍
Thanks Cliff, It's a pretty fun way to spend the day!
Canadian modelers are so with it! The coolness of this antique mode of flight is undoubtedly lost on most American rc "pilots"
Very cool! From a not so proud American...
Hi! thanks for the good words! If you're on YT, search "control line" I think it will surprise you the vast number of videos and the world wide depth of our part of the hobby. You're absolutely correct the current group of rc enthusiasts are no longer "modellers". The hobby has become "toys R us for bigger boys". Control line Stunt is still an event where builder of the model rule still exists at a national level. This generally means we have to build our entries. Thus, you see some really cool unique stuff. Thanks again for the good comments!
beautiful flights
Este es el verdadero control de líneas!! Gracias!
WONDERFULL !!!
Wow most impressive!
Hermosos videos Gracias
great pilots with great machines.
wow this is a beautiful bird and a amazing flier thank you so much
Glad you enjoyed it
Gotta love the prairies for flying...well just about anything.
Beut of a plane!!! You fellas seem to have a great CL club there in Alberta. I am in SK, I would love to come out sometime & learn a bit from you guys.
HI James! sure! It would be great to have you come out!!! ACFC encourages All Modelers with an interest to reach out to us. We are on Facebook as Alberta Controlline Flying Club. or you can reach me directly at madpilot170@gmail.com I'm Bruce the chatty guy in the video. Let me know when you're coming and we can chat about what's going on. Speak soon.
Fun. Very nice video.
Thanks for the visit
Very nice thanks for sharing.
You"re welcome! Thanks for the encouraging words!
Идеально делает фигуры, молодец.
Thank you !
That twin engine plane was fantastic.
Thanks John it is a blast to fly and it always manages to stop activity in the pits.
Que gran competencia !! Muchas técnica y mucha destreza , los Saludo desde Argentina!!!!
Back in the 60’s I bought a COX Control-line Bush plane that came with wheels, skies, and pontoons. Unfortunately without any clubs in the area I was never able to get that plane airborne. Between control-line flying vs RC flying I would think control-line would give the pilot a better feel for how plane was flying over a RC control plane. Are there many people who fly both control-line and RC aircrafts?
Many of us RC guys started with CL in our youth. A couple at my RC club still bring a CL plane out to fly for some change and to have some fun.
The Prez is a very good flyer.
Thanks Robert!
Too Much... Too Cool!
Афіггенно....
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ver y ver y good...excelent
Great landing and flight. Good thing the outboard engine quit first.
Hey Joel! thanks for coming by the Channel. I have had the inboard quit first several times, the first time I was pretty excited! I ran around whipping the model in case it would turn in!!! It didn't have any tendency to yaw wildly at all! Two Much has a LONG tail and big v-fin. So whether inside or outside, it continues along happily! I have metered the fuel loads now so that the engines shut down very closely to together. That's a cool look.
@@magicvids6771 Magic, I fly and teach flying in twin engine (real) airplanes so I am cognizant of engine out flying. I started flying control line models in 1962 at ag 12 and those models led me to a 55 year long career as a pilot including 29 years flying for United Airlines. I have always believed that my flying career started the day I was able to fly a full tank of fuel without crashing my Baby Ringmaster in March of 1962. You were smart to meter fuel loads and have a long tail fin. Those are what kept you out of trouble when the critical engine, which is what we call the engine that has the greatest effect if it fails, on your plane, quit. I once built a 1/2 A model with two engines and always started the outboard engine first, which I think is what you do when you say you meter the fuel loads. I still have a Baby Ringmaster on a stand in my office, but have not flown it yet. I really love control line flying and would never fly R/C. Hey, I fly the real ones!
Control line brings me back to when I was a kid.But I quickly upgraded to R/C which is more realistic.Planes don't fly with strings attached to them.Im not picking on that aspect of the hobby,I just love R/C much better.I also never mastered control line I always crashed and got dizzy.
Control Line isn't for everyone, it takes an intense focus and the difference between a 6 foot pullout and a crash is a split second! Generally, most control line models are built by the flier and not an ARF. This adds a great deal to the event as it takes great courage to risk hundreds of hours doing what we do. Recently, we have had a few RC guys upgrade their modeling experiences and join Control line.
Идеал, а как движки поют, сказка!
you should here them run in real life!
That is one commanding plane.
Thanks Jerry! It's a fun plane to fly for sure.
Great footage showing some real skill from those polits. We don't have as many resources in the UK for this disappearing type of model aircraft; my Dehavilland Mosquito is as yet unflown and am curious to whether my two McCoy 35 Redheads it was intended for are really capable. - What are your thoughts with these engines?
Hi Tim, thanks for the kind words. Which Mossie did you build? the Jack Sheeks version? I have another big twin with two OS 35S engines and it's plenty for that! I'm sure the two McCoys would be A-ok! Let me know if you would like to chat about it! Bruce
@@magicvids6771 Great thanks for the help, I really need to get it flying now!
Well done, everyone!
When do you plan to upgrade to 2.4 GHz control lines? Ahh ... the smell of glow fuel in the morning...
I sold alot of seeds to get my p40 u line airplane.
Un joli modèle et original et en plus il vole bien, pour l'autre modèle c'est du classique, mais il vole bien aussi, cela doit faire drôle d'avoir au bout de bras le modèle, et de sentir les vibrations !!
Merci mon ami!
Beautiful twin engined airplane. Great flight. The sound is amazing. One question. Is there a reason to have the engines run both in the same sense? Wouldn't it be helpful to have them contra rotating for precession and gyroscopic effects? Keep up the good work!!
Hi Paul, the original had two foxes in 1966 so this keeps with the authenticity as well as there seems to be very little negative effect with two engines turning the same way. Thanks for the good words.
@@magicvids6771 How well does it fly if the port [left] engine cuts out?
@@MURDOCK1500 It's VERY stable, the yaw is very small.
Nice. Whrere is that? Edmonton? Calgary?
Hi Paul, we are in Edmonton.
@@magicvids6771 I grew up in Calgary. Very well finished models you have. Have a nice day.
@@magicvids6771 I grew up in Calgary. Very well finished models you have. Have a nice day.
Who won?
What happens if the inside engine quits first?
Hi Earl. That’s happened many times. It’s really a nonevent. There is a slight change in yaw but it doesn’t become difficult to control in anyway. The thrust lines are near the fuse centre and this helps too. Thanks for reaching out. Let me know if you have any questions!
How is the load transferred from the lines to the plane?
Hi again, while this isn't my video, it does explain the system. th-cam.com/video/B-kdv4nHqN0/w-d-xo.html
school grounds forbid insurance is the problem
Was that a Duellist?
Hi Terry, It's a Two Much by Gord Delaney from Salt Lake UT.
we flew at airport just tell tower first it shows on there radar
Wow what a shame such a beautiful model airplane but it's cable could be radio control
Control line is a significant step up from RC and many persons find it difficult to transition. This is much more intense flying than being several hundred feet up and flying circuits over and over. I think you would enjoy the challenge of control line. Let us know if you have any questions.
От скажіть шо вумні........
Але так.......
Never understood control line. It was initially free-flight for me as a kid until later in life when I was able to afford R/C. Endless circles was Not my bag. Although some of these reverses are cool.
Big difference in control line is that you actually feel the airplane in your hand -- something you don't get with free-flight or RC. May not be a big thing for most, but when I flew these things as a kid, that solid, vibrating pull against your hand combined with the nearby engine noise was something else -- and a cause of panic if the lines got slack and the pull went away, meaning you better get them tight again pretty quick or else. Hard to explain but you really got the sense YOU were actually flying. Sadly, noise complaints from neighbors ultimately grounded us kids. But can well understand it's not everyone's cup of tea.
@@philmann3476 I think the most important thing to remember is that regardless whether we do free flight, R/C, or U-Control, we are in this hobby because we love airplans.
@@brax2364 Yep, true that.
go show your dads sons they get hooked good father son hobbies if dad crashes oh he payed for it go mow more yards i did
Why does everyone fly the same manoeuvres?
Hi Joe, Thanks for asking. The reason we all fly the same routine is because we are competing to see who does the routine the best. The Pattern is the same internationally, it was developed in the USA in 1952 and has been pretty much the same since. Much like golf, the perfect flight is elusive! However, a hole in one for us is devastating! LOL I hope this answers what you were looking for!
Electric motors suck
I just wanna see the line break.....just once
You'll be watchin' for ages. Fine Woven Stainless lines, (miniature cables) are so good, they're Hand-Me-Downs.
Je ne comprends pas comment des pilotes puissent encore s'adonner à cette activité complètement révolue, passée de mode et obsolète. Je trouve ça ridicule
You're right, you do not understand.