One thing I'd like to mention about using Hard Light in PvE: If you are teaching someone how to do a Raid, Hard Light can act as the ultimate pointer finger. Just shoot at whatever you're teaching them about and they'll be sure to look at it since the bullets are so dang flashy. Just tell them to follow the light! XD
Hard Light, my all time favorite gun. I hear you on it's limitations and negative aspects, but I'm still a dedicated user. Every time Iron Banner rolls around, I rack up the kills with this gun.
I absolutely love Hard Light. Has been my favorite gun since year one. I remember the first time I heard of it... I was doing a strike playlist and one of my team members had it. I heard the sound that it made when you fired it, and from that moment I was hooked. Sounded so awesome. And it looks awesome too. Also, the magazine size helps tremendously in crucible. Tears people up.
None of the other omolon weapons with colored ammo do elemental damage. My cocytus has purple ammo but doesn't do void damage. It just wouldn't fit in with the rest of its family.
+Jared Holcomb Yeah, no disrespect to the quality information contained in the actual review, but these random additions to Patrick's videos are the best part.
You're always so serious and corporative looking that you killed me with that trance music joke LOL! I didn't see that coming. I always tell my friends that gun is a freaking discotheque to make them laugh.
One of the guys I play trials uses it. He knows he isn't very accurate, so he uses this as a cover fire weapon. The large magazine, little damage fall off, and intimidating looking rounds make it excellent for that kind of role.
i personally don't see the screen shake as that much of a problem. it's still just as accurate, just jittery. in crucible i can mow down people uaing doctrine in a one on one encounter more often than not. last word is the only primary in it's range area i cannot outgun at least half the time with hard light.
Great review (again - LOL). Hard Light is one of my favorites as well; definitely takes some acclimation to make it useful in PVP but I think it's doable. You're correct, as much as I hate to admit it: Monte Carlo is better for PVP.
So far I've been using hard light in pvp and I've been finding a lot of success in the mid to short range fights, even the mid to long range at times as well. Well more like 60/40 but it's been such a long time where I had fun in crucible that HL gave me that excitement again to a point where is my main load out.. To some degree depending on the maps
Fitz5 Lol we can already solo his ass with a sword. I don't see how that could hurt game play other than making the Hard Light into a nightmare in the Crucible. All they'd have to do is scale back the base damage accordingly to gauge TTK -- and vola, a top tier weapon.
quick question I have one 1k stare with, shortgaze snapshot guerrilla fighter and unflinching and another with shortgaze last resort hand laid stock and unflinching which one is better?????????
The thing this gun really needs is bonus damage to enemy shields. That way the screen shake is somewhat worth dealing with when you can shred minotaurs and people in pvp.
if I had to choose between firefly or overpenatrating rounds I would choose the overpenatrating targets because it doesn't really depend on perversion shots to work
This was the third exotic weapon I got in year 1 I think and it was also my favourite to use and I'm considering trying it out again to bring back old memories
+Mayhem Morgan Echo Chamber. Playstation exclusive until 2017. What sucks even more is that there are strike reward Warlock gauntlets linked to it that end up *also* being PS exclusive until 2017.
In the hands of creative Crucible players I'd have to say the ricocheting rounds are more than just a gimmick. Especially on smaller maps and in choke points. It's useful on any of the Mars maps.
someone has never heard of controlled fire before. Just case it's an auto-rifle doesn't mean you should just hold down R2 until the thing in front of you dies. you'll notice in shorter bursts the screen shake he complains about is irrelevant.
personally, I love the latest version of the hard light and I tend to wreck in the crucible. although, the recoil pattern can take time to get used to. I bet even bungie might find the jumpy recoil unnecessary.
They should change the perk so that rounds ricochet for 30 seconds or until they hit a target. That would be great for zone control, and would make this weapon a beast. If this seems overpowered, they could nerf to twenty seconds or bump the screen shake up so that direct kills aren't as easy.
I got a pretty grimy PVP question.... If you half mag dump any weapon with glass half full.....and just started with the last 20 bullet's... Will you see boost to damage output?? Has anyone tried this?
i love the this gun in pvp, encounter an enemy and you both start dodging and pacing back and forth but they are doing it in front of a flat wall, guess what shots will over penetrate and bounce back and hit them again or it forces a lot of people who run through tunnels to get hit even without being able to fire back
I saw more people using it in IB clash to hold down chokepoints. They literally were just aiming towards a door and spraying all of their ammo hoping to get lucky kills or just keep players from moving in. Super irritating, but surprisingly effective. It didn't seem like it was just one or two people using it for fun either. It felt like I ran across it in probably 20% of my matches.
I'm sorry to say but as a first-year player and using the hard light before it got these two of the perks if you're not good enough to use the Ricochet rounds and over penetration you shouldn't use the gun this gun is very good at grouping anything specially the omigal strike. that's just me tho I've mastered this gun and take pride in it.
It would be awesome if after your first kill you get a gunslingers trans type effect added that reduces the screen shake for 10-15 seconds, maybe 5 seconds and it stacks 3x. That would, maybe, take it out of it's crappy tier and make it worthy in gun fights.
I really like Hard Light for PVP, I have no idea why though. I've used a ton of different weapons and I've never really been that great, messed around with Hard Light and I seem to have a gun that works for me. That being said, PVE I'm pretty much addicted to my zhalo.
Patrick I need your help I keep deleting my assault rifles what should I keep zhalo supercell, monte carlo or hardlight? if u can help I appreciate it .
I have a Imago Loop with Triple Tap, Xplosive Round and Life support I think it's the perfect pistol for PvE because I can heal with it, get a hughely increased Mag with triple tap and control Crowds with Explosive Rounds.
That sandstorm made me spit out my drink. Thanks pd :P
yoooooo
best part of the vid
the "hard light is best light" vid is used more in the zhalo supercell review then this one
Ikr
cammy ur greet utuber
I love how you make these informational yet entertaining. Well done once again Patrick!
One thing I'd like to mention about using Hard Light in PvE: If you are teaching someone how to do a Raid, Hard Light can act as the ultimate pointer finger. Just shoot at whatever you're teaching them about and they'll be sure to look at it since the bullets are so dang flashy. Just tell them to follow the light! XD
4:43 - I have been playing Destiny ever since it came out and I have never seen anyone catch an engram mid air. Respect.
Could you upload one last review of Hard Light where it's nothing but Sandstorm playing and rounds ricocheting all over the place?
+Dragoneth th-cam.com/video/X0hrPlrLWxI/w-d-xo.html
Perfect.
+PlanetDestiny this is hard light's purpose, a disco ball in caves to make awkward disco music go to its extent
xD
ikr hahahaha
"...an exotic auto rifle that can be won in the cryptarch lottery." Lmao XD W
i like the added humor that some of these videos have now. THANKS PATRICK CASEY!
Awesome review, loved the dance party inserts!
Could you do more subclass videos? Maybe break down each class again and show preferences for PVP/PVE. Thanks!
+hochstaetterb Good idea, will do
Awesome! I'm looking forward to them.
+PlanetDestiny and please say how shit Blade Dancer is.
+Phoenix Fire I wouldn't say it's shit , it's just that taken King wasn't designed for blade dancers like Crota's end was
colin chan im talking about PVP
I take this into Trials sometimes and it's surprisingly good. It's really fun to use.
Great review. I love this gun but never use it.
Hard Light, my all time favorite gun. I hear you on it's limitations and negative aspects, but I'm still a dedicated user. Every time Iron Banner rolls around, I rack up the kills with this gun.
Hard Light is best light.. for a party.
LOVE that little bit at 1:57 :D
Derude - Sandstorm
+Dhoulmagus Rhapthorne im not even trolling. thats the song xD
Dhoulmagus Rhapthorne its a great song :)
I love you
I absolutely love Hard Light. Has been my favorite gun since year one. I remember the first time I heard of it... I was doing a strike playlist and one of my team members had it. I heard the sound that it made when you fired it, and from that moment I was hooked. Sounded so awesome. And it looks awesome too. Also, the magazine size helps tremendously in crucible. Tears people up.
They should have linked The "Hard Light is the best light" Video! Loved that thing!
THREE DARUDES? THREE DARUDES! PATRICK CASEY YOU ARE MY HERO
This gun has got me through more tournaments than any other.
Still don't know why it doesn't do Arc damage
+DannyBlazor I Think it's because you are literally shooting light. Hence the name Hardlight.
None of the other omolon weapons with colored ammo do elemental damage. My cocytus has purple ammo but doesn't do void damage. It just wouldn't fit in with the rest of its family.
+Brian Sanchez Omolon secondaries have color that match the elemental damage
+DannyBlazor hard light is a primary weapon
+Brian Sanchez Alright, bullet trails on Omolon Primaries aren't colored
1:56 "Darude- Lightstorm
Bungie should make the color of each round different so its more fun.
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this
give it a chroma for the lasers
Hey, in Destiny 2, it's an elemental primary weapon that changes elements when you reload, so wish = kind of granted!
This gun got even better in Destiny 2. The energy type change 💜
DUDE WAS THAT DARUDE SANDSTORM!?!?!?
yus
+Jared Holcomb
look up hard light is best light
+Jared Holcomb nop, it was rick astley - never gonna give you up
+Jared Holcomb Yeah, no disrespect to the quality information contained in the actual review, but these random additions to Patrick's videos are the best part.
jdbolick
tru dat
I love these reviews!
Get ready to spend me on Friday
K xD
np
+Strange coin no
+Strange coin hopefully on a twilight garrison
+Strange coin
im excited, tell xur to bring me redeath pls
You're always so serious and corporative looking that you killed me with that trance music joke LOL! I didn't see that coming. I always tell my friends that gun is a freaking discotheque to make them laugh.
What was that song at 1:57 ??
darud sandstorm
seriously
The only time when saying darude sandstorm is actually relevant.
+DimondMine27 lol
omg different heaven
From a design point I love this weapon. From a design point.
0:21
Accurized Ballistics says more Range and Impact but if you look at the stats, it reduced it.
One of the guys I play trials uses it. He knows he isn't very accurate, so he uses this as a cover fire weapon. The large magazine, little damage fall off, and intimidating looking rounds make it excellent for that kind of role.
i personally don't see the screen shake as that much of a problem. it's still just as accurate, just jittery. in crucible i can mow down people uaing doctrine in a one on one encounter more often than not. last word is the only primary in it's range area i cannot outgun at least half the time with hard light.
The screen shake is no problem for me this is my favorite auto rifle ever!!!!
Justin Scheurer Is it still good?
The quick shot from outside the laser cave is fucking hilarious.
1:56 That light show. lol
dudududududu....
dununununun
+Roeniel Carter DOO-dududududu
dududududuuudududududuududududduudu
+Fariko Tekkas do do do do do dadadadadsdsdaddodododododododoodoodaddodododododododoooddood
+Domo The Russian wich song is that???... xD
Gotta love the light rave party in a dark scary cave.
Bungie needs to tone down that screen shake. I don't get it.
I like it. although, I'm wierd. I like bouncy guns.
Crowded House it's the trade off for the gun having full aim assist
Great review (again - LOL). Hard Light is one of my favorites as well; definitely takes some acclimation to make it useful in PVP but I think it's doable. You're correct, as much as I hate to admit it: Monte Carlo is better for PVP.
Perfect review.
So far I've been using hard light in pvp and I've been finding a lot of success in the mid to short range fights, even the mid to long range at times as well. Well more like 60/40 but it's been such a long time where I had fun in crucible that HL gave me that excitement again to a point where is my main load out.. To some degree depending on the maps
How to make Hard Light OP: Rounds overpenetrate and ignore shields.
one can only dream
R.I.P Crota then forever.
Fitz5 Lol we can already solo his ass with a sword. I don't see how that could hurt game play other than making the Hard Light into a nightmare in the Crucible.
All they'd have to do is scale back the base damage accordingly to gauge TTK -- and vola, a top tier weapon.
+Fitz5
u can only damage crota with his sword. unless the hardlight took away the shield in one bullet, it would be useless
i dont mind the screen shake doesnt affect my aim to mjch
quick question I have one 1k stare with, shortgaze snapshot guerrilla fighter and unflinching and another with shortgaze last resort hand laid stock and unflinching which one is better?????????
The thing this gun really needs is bonus damage to enemy shields. That way the screen shake is somewhat worth dealing with when you can shred minotaurs and people in pvp.
are you going to review suros regimes year 2 versiom?
+mono mono Yes
if I had to choose between firefly or overpenatrating rounds I would choose the overpenatrating targets because it doesn't really depend on perversion shots to work
This was the third exotic weapon I got in year 1 I think and it was also my favourite to use and I'm considering trying it out again to bring back old memories
love what bungie has done with the foundries, hopefully we see even cooler designs in the spring "update"
Great video Patrick!
What mission is that at 0:50 ive never seen that before.
+Mayhem Morgan
it's a ps exclusive strike called echo chamber
Only on PlayStation
Thank you :)
DannyBlazor aaah i see thank you :)
+Mayhem Morgan Echo Chamber. Playstation exclusive until 2017. What sucks even more is that there are strike reward Warlock gauntlets linked to it that end up *also* being PS exclusive until 2017.
I never had a problem with the screen shake. I always managed it and got used to it.
What's the song at song at 1:59
Great review
thumbs for planet destiny
So if you had one choice: either tone down screen shake or buff volitale rounds which one would make this gun a true exotic tier weapon?
y1 hard light was my go to for stompin in the crucible
How about making ricochet rounds deal slightly more damage on ricochets and bounce a little bit towards the enemies? What do you guys think?
hard light has always been one of my favorite weapons, even in year 1
In the hands of creative Crucible players I'd have to say the ricocheting rounds are more than just a gimmick. Especially on smaller maps and in choke points. It's useful on any of the Mars maps.
What level is that harpy boss on, cause I can't find it. Plz help
2:00 what's the song name?
Give it High Caliber Rounds and very slight tracking like the new Dreg's Promise and it could be more dominant than Doctorine of Passing.
Great review.- Hardlight is so cool yet so flawed. Hope Bungie show it some love to make it truly competitive.
someone has never heard of controlled fire before. Just case it's an auto-rifle doesn't mean you should just hold down R2 until the thing in front of you dies. you'll notice in shorter bursts the screen shake he complains about is irrelevant.
I was wondering why the gun doesn't feel as stable as it suggests. Why would they include screen shake?
personally, I love the latest version of the hard light and I tend to wreck in the crucible. although, the recoil pattern can take time to get used to. I bet even bungie might find the jumpy recoil unnecessary.
MORE LIGHTSHOWS THAT IS HILARIOUS
Hello my past
Just bought Hard Light from Xûr after Patch 2.5.0.2. It's honestly a pretty good Auto Rifle.
1:57 Song?
They should change the perk so that rounds ricochet for 30 seconds or until they hit a target. That would be great for zone control, and would make this weapon a beast. If this seems overpowered, they could nerf to twenty seconds or bump the screen shake up so that direct kills aren't as easy.
That would cause way to much lag. And rounds cannot bounce for a certain amount of time since it is a hitscan weapon.
Hardlight can shoot through the spawn barrier on doors in PvE. So you can kill them as they spawn.
What is that boss at 0:59?
Nothing beats the satisfaction of getting a kill around a corner in pvp though. It's awesome.
what boss is that at 0:50 ?
Are you guys going to do exotic armor reviews again?
I got a pretty grimy PVP question....
If you half mag dump any weapon with glass half full.....and just started with the last 20 bullet's... Will you see boost to damage output?? Has anyone tried this?
i love the this gun in pvp, encounter an enemy and you both start dodging and pacing back and forth but they are doing it in front of a flat wall, guess what shots will over penetrate and bounce back and hit them again or it forces a lot of people who run through tunnels to get hit even without being able to fire back
Holtz can u make a red death review? I went to the pd website to find a review but the pages one is from 2014 in like november or something
what song is it a 1:57 (lenny face)
Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean
Duy thx
I know how insane it sounds but this is my favorite auto rifle
I saw more people using it in IB clash to hold down chokepoints. They literally were just aiming towards a door and spraying all of their ammo hoping to get lucky kills or just keep players from moving in. Super irritating, but surprisingly effective. It didn't seem like it was just one or two people using it for fun either. It felt like I ran across it in probably 20% of my matches.
I'm sorry to say but as a first-year player and using the hard light before it got these two of the perks if you're not good enough to use the Ricochet rounds and over penetration you shouldn't use the gun this gun is very good at grouping anything specially the omigal strike. that's just me tho I've mastered this gun and take pride in it.
I hope there will eventually be an omolon pulse rifle that does some neat things
It would be awesome if after your first kill you get a gunslingers trans type effect added that reduces the screen shake for 10-15 seconds, maybe 5 seconds and it stacks 3x. That would, maybe, take it out of it's crappy tier and make it worthy in gun fights.
I really like Hard Light for PVP, I have no idea why though. I've used a ton of different weapons and I've never really been that great, messed around with Hard Light and I seem to have a gun that works for me. That being said, PVE I'm pretty much addicted to my zhalo.
I have a Y1 Hard Light that is actually pretty savage. In PVP.
They need to make a whole video with Sabdstorm playing and a hardlight montage.
The screen shake is called visual recoil where it shows recoil that doesn't exist, it's common in destiny with harder hitting weapons like snipers
Can someone do a review of destiny 2 hard light review 5? At the end with an awesome lightshow?
First exotic, got it in a rumble game like a week or two after launch
Good review, still is one of my favorite weapons for PVP and PVE
I use (Hard Light) for PVE but not for PVP. If I'm going to do PVP, I'll use the (Mida Multi-Tool) scout rifle.
Same
i have a treads upon stars with overpenatrat, ironically got using hard light
Patrick I need your help I keep deleting my assault rifles what should I keep zhalo supercell, monte carlo or hardlight? if u can help I appreciate it .
Zhalo
The division is here
hey planetdestiny, can you make a review for suros regime? I would like to hear your opinion on it.
Hardlight may not be the best but I still did pretty well with it and it really is fun to use
I have a Imago Loop with Triple Tap, Xplosive Round and Life support I think it's the perfect pistol for PvE because I can heal with it, get a hughely increased Mag with triple tap and control Crowds with Explosive Rounds.
Nice roll, but not related to this video
If hard light was arc damage do you think it would be used more?
I got hard light today
Tried it in crucible and instantly loved it
Lol same I don't see all the recoil hate!