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Sneako is like a Red Pill soundboard. I honestly don’t even know if he believes what he is saying or is just dopey as hell and is regurgitating whatever he’s heard online.
its a copy and paste "personality" and then you get a bunch of 11 year olds spamming W in your chat. Give it a couple of months and he'll be rug pulling like the rest of them.
Anytime someone has a really toxic belief it's a reasonably safe bet that they're just projecting. "Women are shallow and only want the best of the best" = "I am shallow and only want the best of the best" (ask these guys what type of women they want and it'll become clear) "Women have no empathy and are incapable of love" = "I have no empathy and am incapable of love" (ask these guys literally anything about any woman in any painful situation and watch as they try to find some way to spin it into the situation being the girl's fault) etc etc.
Just because many of us men grew out of our young ignorance, doesn’t mean sneako will. Fresh and Fit are proof this doesn’t always happen. He is on track to becoming like them with his echo chambers, so I think it’s great you are talking to him now and planting these seeds.
Destiny is wrong to assume that everyone will go through the same radical changes he went through. Progressives resist the reality that people are quite regularly fundamentaly different
I don't get how Destiny thinks that's even supposed to happen, especially when they're actively reinforcing the things they're supposed to "grow out of".
What is considered “young ignorance”? What characteristic now, makes you any less ignorant? I’ve seen and heard many adults who still suffer from the same ignorance many still complain about today?
When people say "weed isn't addictive" they almost always don't understand that is referring to physical addiction that causes death. It is 100% easy to become habitually addicted to smoking in general. There is a reason its called chronic. Those that say "weed isn't medicinal" also don't understand weed.
Bingo. Recovered opiate fiend here who became just as addicted to weed before going full sober. Anything be in used in excess to escape your feelings is an addiction and is unhealthy. Just cause I you don’t like 40 pounds and look like the walking dead doesn’t change it 100% is mentally addicting
As a person on recovery from addiction, someone who know what it is all about knows that everything that makes you happy or gives you a break from suffering can become an addiction, ESPECIALLY weed
Smoked weed daily for 10 years and stopped during covid lockdowns and haven't used it since. After like a day or two of feeling bored when I would usually be baked, I had zero physical or mental withdraw symptoms. From my experience, weed isn't even slightly addictive. For comparison, I stopped drinking coffee for a few days and felt like absolute shit for a week until a drank more.
How Sneako has actual functioning brain cells is beyond me at this point. It legit feels like he just molds his mind to whatever crackpot shit he hears everytime.
Familial patterns (conscious or unconscious) and life experiences are what fundamentally shape us as people. Sneako is simply a continuation of a huge group of people with very similar (or identical) familial patterns and life experiences.
@@anubisgod23 i genuinely don't understand why did destiny call him a "very ambitious and smart 23 year old". I agree with "ambitious" part, but smart? Really? I think 23 isn't such a young age to use it as a justification for being so immaturely stupid
Feminine women are not retarded. It actually takes a lot of thought, care, and work to maintain a smoothly functioning household. Homemakers deserve more respect.
Pretty sure the only "feminine" portion of a woman these guys seek out is the T&A part. They actively go out of their way to avoid the ones that would make a good mother or wife. Dumb & hot is a lot easier to deal with when you're just trying to get your rocks off.
@@crimsonking7179 water runs downhill my guy, that's what he's saying. Men care about themselves, their woman and child and women care about themselves and their children and children care about themselves
Sneako: “Establishment bad.” Host: “Establishment bad. Also, establishment is not good.” Sneako: “Establishment is not good?” Host: “Establishment bad.”
Sneako’s worldview: “everyone should get rich and only be concerned about themselves” Also Sneako: “The elite are fucking us over because all they care about is money and power”
These kinda podcast and creators will never help you find fullfilling relationships. If you want a different girl every night then fine, but its weird that they bash women if they sleep around. If you wanna make a podcast that encourages men to better themselves and also have more influence over women than fine, but if a woman wants to do the same podcast for women then shes a misandrist. If a woman starts an Onlyfans she's just cheating weak men out of money, but you can skip paying taxes cause youre smart enough to cheat a system out of your contribution. Now both men and women have these bad influences that dont foster healthy relationships. The tagline of "Women are ruining the nuclear family... so heres how you sleep with 10 women" should be a sign that these people dont care about traditional values. These people say theyre teaching people to be their best self but how can you do that if you teach them to hate commitment and responsibility.
I’m surprised Destiny didn’t describe clinginess as desperate, that’s why it’s a turn off for anyone. People have different thresholds for how attached their partner can get before it starts feeling clingy but sex isn’t the common denominator there, attachment style is. Likewise the opposite end of the spectrum, distant/avoidant, is also a turn off for most people at a certain point
Clinginess is you wanting to talk or be around ur partner and if they find that too much then it’s clinginess. If not, that’s okay, enjoy life together.
Even if someone was “not attatched” after having sex for the first time, avoidence IS a reaction to attatchment. Its biology to become attatched after sex. You only become more desensitized the more you do it. So I disagree, I think sex IS the common denominator
I might be the only girl, that actually likes clinginess. I enjoy it when someone wants to be around me. But I think desperate is a deeper level than clinginess.
Man I used to watch sneako back in 2019 and he made great videos, seemed like a smart kid and honestly it's really hard to tell if he believes what hes saying or if hes just grifting super hard
I think saying "how smart are you ever at 23?" is more than a little bit of lazy assessment. I'm a month older than Sneako, this is not normal behavior for me or my peer groups. To me, Sneako sounds like a teenager. Regardless, your perspective absolutely is dismissive of intellectual capabilities of people that age. Yes, I understand people gain my life knowledge with age, but this sets a very low bar for young adults. You're always going to be smarter with age. By this logic, a 50-year-old can just excuse the actions the 30-year-olds Fresh and Fit. In relation, they're young and dumb compared to the 50-year-old. You're viewing this through the lens of your age while being completely unaware that you're doing so. Let's not normalize the bad behavior in young adults by marginalizing their agency.
Totally untrue. Age is only one factor among many that influence your intelligence and wisdom. There are plenty of older people who have done little soul searching or have undertaken pretty much no self-reflection, and a good number of younger folks who have had to learn fast and become wiser quickly. You'll say these are exceptions, but I would disagree. The numbers of these ''rare cases'' are high enough for such a generalization to be too simplistic. Steven also tends to generalize a lot about these sorts of topics. I understand why, though.
@@RestlessTome Exactly, Papa Gut does a similar thing. Let's let bad things be bad things. If they're old enough to legally drink, we don't need to handle them with kiddie gloves. Sneako overtalks people, screams like a banshee, diminishes, questions men's masculinity. The moment anyone returns that energy (to a lesser extent), he gets triggered. So, now we have a situation where Sneako can speak with near impunity (specifically in the way he constructs his arguments, because I know he gets his content banned sometimes), and everyone has to try to intelligently and carefully engage with him.
@@timothyonime8199 im glad im not the only one. Im in my mid twenties and the way sneako is talking is the way i talked when i was fucking 14. This guy just has shit beliefs, now maybe one day he will change and look back in shame at his stupidity, but its not cause he is young its cause he simply has shit views and beliefs.
it’s perplexing watching something like this when you know several women in your life that are wildly smart and accomplished. Every time they talk about women it’s like their speaking about a different, much dumber species.
@@EsotericOccultist when I was in the hospital most of the doctors there were women, being a doctor is a thinking profession, the examples you listed are manual labor, you just owned yourself.
Ya because most of those women were given privileges to get there! You people are so ignorant and oblivious, because new age culture is very feminist, and that means no longer advocating men to be in good career positions, but that’s now only reserved for women! There’s also Avenues women are allowed to have that are 10x harder for men, because there’s a quota for mostly women. This new culture has now completely taken that men be expendable, and completely run with this idea to the point of turning men into savage idiots!
Sneako: "you NEED money to become the best version of yourself. Get all the money you can so you can obtain whatever you want" Also sneako: "the rich want to keep us down because all they want is money and power". 💀 Thank you destiny for calling him out on yesterday's video saying he is the problem he is creating what he hates lol
You do realize the people he's talking about are people who do things to influence government structures. Not some TH-cam kid with maybe 1 million dollars.
Those are not contradictions. For that to be true, getting money and rich must be the same. It’s not. You’re making that assertion. You don’t need to be rich to make your dreams. However, the rich is clearly the elites/higher ups etc
I love how destiny is honest about how emotional men are, at least he admits it. growing up in social conservative circles my whole life is seeing men spiral constantly and be outwardly and passively aggressive all the time while decrying themselves more stoic and logical was always so funny to me. I'm an aspie so hyporeactive and kind of sociopathic so i think human emotionality is weird edit: women are super emotional also but it's culturally acceptable for us to admit it
@@codexmachina1358 thanks for proving my point bro, the entire point is redpill and right wing guys pontificating over women their entire lives about how emotional we are while being equally emotional.
@@247Lakers and I don't disagree that some women can value decisiveness and 'strength during hard times" in their bfs or husbands but that doesn't mean these men aren't allowed to have emotions or be sad or be vulnerable ever. women actually like it when men can talk about their emotions
@@codexmachina1358 I mean it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not on the internet so can a blame em?🤷🏼♂️lol. On a serious note though, she ain't wrong.
@@codexmachina1358 how is it on the nose unless you are in a echo-chamber that believes a woman sharing an anecdote that confirms a point made in a stream is "attention-seeking". i was just adding to the convo
That advice for those with an addictive personality is good to get out to people. If you know you cannot control yourself on simple things the last thing you need is hard drugs. Know yourself and be safe.
Interesting fact regarding murder documentaries, I make them on TH-cam, and my analytics show my viewers are 58% male and 42% female. Edit to add time stamp: 1:24:06
Summary of the redpill: never engage emotionally so no one can ever hurt you. I feel like all these guys have some past relationship trauma they need to work through
@@RedEverything Men in red pill spaces do have a lot of trauma and they do need a lot of therapy, making "logical conclusions" is nothing more then a copium filled buzzword.
It's legit wild to watch Sneako, whether it's his old videos or his new ones that attempt to be little essays or self reflections compared to him talking against someone pushing back against his beliefs. He sounds so composed and thoughtful, like he's actually sat down and thought about the best way to convey what he believes. Probably the worst part is that I remember having like half his world views when I was his age. Not modern "anti-jab" stuff, but the generic worldview of anti-government, anti-"control", anti-sex culture(but it was all women and "Chads's" fault of course). Fingers crossed that Destiny's right that time will curb a lot of his more knee-jerk beliefs.
Sneako has never had a stance of "it's all Chad's fault" ever. Y'all trying to make this man out to be someone who hasn't had multiple relationships. Everyother position you listed is right though
I've been looking more and more for the "kernels of truth" in these redpill rants and podcasts in general, and the problem is they exist in more abundance than most people who disagree with redpill would like to admit. So much so that it's kind of scary, because 10 years ago I might see those kernels of truth, and then take the rest of the content as gospel as well. They mix common personal experiences with generalizations so fluidly, and it appeals to someone looking for answers that they claim to be giving. Until a blue pill analogue that acknowledges some redpill truths exists on a large enough scale, I think this generation of men on the internet might become increasingly red/blackpilled on women, becoming incels or worse because they can't apply the solutions given by redpillers to their own lives.
The reason why red/blackpill is pinging these young boys because they're growing up with some sort of abuse and or trauma. They're trying to find love and express they sexuality and getting flak for it. The "blue" pill is weird about how they address problems. They too often call redpill/alpha dudes weird. Yet a lot of them are ironically "alpha" themselves due to the parasocial connections with their own fanbase. Blue pill/Leftists have been just as if not more toxic as other side. Especially, when it comes to how they treated Destiny. Red side maybe kinda dirt bags yet you can easily avoid them. Blue side seeming like to backstab you the moment you don't agree. Red side is so used to people not agreeing with them Blue isn't this why they have a problem now.
@@haselbasil2488 Most solutions are good, like personal responsibility and accountiblity. Stop chasing women that clearly aren't into you and or are spoken for. Don't cheat on your partner and walk away when your partner is cheating. Also that a lot of the talk of enjoying life beyond working yourself to death or for people that don't give a shit is positive as hell. A lot of the hookup ish is meh listen beyond it and you realize it ironically mimics a lot of feminist points. That's why they don't like redpill peeping their own game.
lol I get Destiny saying he's started factoring people's age in more often when talking to them, but Sneako is definitely still dumb for a 23 year old.
I'm 25 i feel like - an this might sound arrogant or cocky - he has no opinion that he hasn't heard before. Which makes it the opposite of the exact same coin. Feminists/Redpillers basically the same shit. One for Women and one for Men.
Yeah sorry, I get what Destiny means, and maybe this guy has some older stuff that's smarter, but on the streams he's been at above-average levels of idiocy, even if he was 5 years younger.
@@FlaresTreeHouse Sure. Both his debates with Destiny he’s appealed to race as an argument to never trust government and to never vote. Those concepts are “white people shit.” It’s weird.
The way that everyone is talking about dating nowadays sickens me. It seems like such a joyless and inhumane process. Your long term partner should be your best friend. someone to share and enjoy your life with. How can you imagine to find someone like that if you seem to only date for datings sake, set strict rules and commodify everything. I genuinely feel alienated from this whole conversation and how everyone (even Destiny in some ways) seems to engage with this topic.
That's the problem with us becoming so modern. Before people paired up with people they knew from school/college/hometown/work. Now dating is overall a meat market and a lot of people do not know what they want. They have warped expectations which cause them to self-sabotage.
@@ExeErdna I think you are right. Our brains are probably not designed to connect to so many people through social media in a fleeting way, yet have almost no sense of community. It's a sad thought that young people get increasingly lonely and are unable to find genuine love and connection. You can tell by watching people like Sneako and Fresh and Fit that these people and probably most of their followers have never experienced real intimacy and romance. We as a society should make every effort to help young people connect in the real world again, because shared experiences are the best foundation to build such relationships and friendships. I just don't know how with social media having the pull that it does...
@@dareth710 It kinda reminds me of the story of "The Tower of Babel" the tower to heaven was destroyed and human no longer could understand each other. Social media was another tower of babel we could make friends with people ANYWHERE. That was too powerful and once again we can no longer really understand each other. A lot of people are socially starved and ignorant. All they have are parasocials which is why I cannot get so mad at "red pill" since they're no different from anybody else building a community online. Everybody's trying to find their space and be at peace. Then you have somebody going "your peace is trash and you should like me" I heard this from the leftists, right leaning mooks, the feminist, the red pill, the blackpill, the lgbt, the corpos, etc etc etc etc. All my tribe is better shit and I will save the world bullshit.
It's now "nowadays" it's just social circles of people who are terminally on internet. All these guys live on youtube, reddit, 4chan and they are all surrounded by the same social circles. Cut off social media and get friends that aren't 24/7 on these chanels and you will see that it's not what dating is today at all. In fact dating is more diverse that it ever been.
As a side note however; People back in the day were against books. They would say books are a disincentive to learning skills or memorizing information.
@@steveng6704 I don't think that's a good comparison in general. You can say it in relation to specific subjects that have changed little from generation to generation. But the rate of evolution tech has nowadays, people being born after social media's creation, and how divided the country is in current times when even people from two generations back saying it's never been so bad. I don't think you can just wave it away so easily.
Ah yes, because when many conservatives said this about pro homosexuality, or extreme feminism, all of that was necessary for the current generation of that period….
I don't even really mind being insulted; I just can't stop rolling my eyes at the self pity of these people under the guise of being strong men. 'Waaaa women just can't begin to understand my struggles, life is sooo hard, life is so _easy_ for them. Waaah'. Fuck me 🙄
Yeah I found it always ironic how MGTOW crowd is 99% bitching about women and their all identity seems to be build around being "counter to women". Unironically If women got Thanos snapped in a second they would probably have their identity break.
@@kennethpaulsen9239 Do you think it's likely that women are waltzing through life, never having to worry about a thing? Or do you think it's more likely that women do not have all of the same struggles as men, but have some - perhaps more - that men don't care to consider? If all you're focused on is getting laid, I'm sure being a woman looks like an enviable position to be in. Pretty single-minded, though, and frankly hilarious considering one of the primary complaints is 'women don't understand us.'
@@0doublezero0 damn or we can man up and stop soying out because life is unfair and mainstream media is mean to us. The biggest issue with the red pill is it’s an effective coping mechanism that overcorrects and leads to extremism. A lot of what the red pill tells you is true, but it’s not a Bible to live by.
I don't know whether I should take "sneako is a very intelligent 23 year old" as an insult or a compliment as a 24 y/o myself, lol. Guess it could be both. But I don't see him being "just misguided", there's barely any thought going on there.
They can't emphathize, only sympathize. Same is true of men, when I saw Roe V wade overturned my emotional state was complete indifference. I don't go out my way to care about the random monolithic group of women , this is the same reason why men's right activist are cringe. "No one cares about men", I'm one and I personally do care about some random dude either. No is supposed to care about you, that's the first mistake, strangers are not obligated to caring about your well-being.
@@ahmarcamacho8404 reason I didn’t care about roe v wade is because i can’t really empathize with sexually loose people, not really a man-women thing for me
@@ahmarcamacho8404 its less about being an obligation and more about being something we should expect, as human beings. When in history has it ever been beneficial to not care about other people just because we dont know them personally or we cant relate to their personal experience? imagine if the white people who helped break down systematic racism decided not to do it because they couldnt empathize with that experience? it just doesnt make sense or help society in any way. Most of the time we help others and show support not because we can relate to the experience but because if a few circumstances were diffferent, we COULD be in that situation our selves. Thats where i also think people miss the mark when it comes to sayings like "put yourself in so and so shoes." It just takes a different level of undertanding when you dont closely relate to an experience but because you could imagine yourself in that situation it makes you respond differently. The only thing cringe about mens right activist, similar to feminist, is many of them are anti the other gender. them caring about the mental health and well being of other men shouldnt be cringe.
I'd love to see Sneako or the F&F guys sit down and have this conversation with their mothers and other female family members. Caught a bit on how Tate is never apart from his brother but has a very different relationship with his sister.
Myron (fit) has spoken about his mom and that his mom used to tell him him about female nature. She used to tell Myron that western women are generally not fit to be wives or mothers. He said he dismissed most of what she said like most kids do until he started to experience the world for himself. Fresh was raised by his grandparents and has a similar take. That duty no longer exists in the west. And that marriages reach a roadblock and instead of keeping the house and family together the easy way is taken. Marriage isn't always about being happy. It's about duty to your kids and building a home.
Destiny helped me understand that it's not about smoking weed or not smoking weed, it's "does coming down off of weed feel really, really bad?" Yes: when I'm financially stressed it's one of the worst feelings ever & that feeling lasts for like three days or so No: when I'm coming down mid-workout it's one of the best feelings ever and that feeling lasts a couple days as well
You don't even need that, we used to have MGTOW guy in our workplace and he eventually got fired just because he was such pain in the ass and extremely inappropriate with everyone. It was like having someone with a mind of 14 year old telling everything that comes to his mind with no filter. And out workplace is pretty chill and "edgy", also slightly autistic, so you have to be extra autistic to weird people out. He managed that.
@@Koooles well the main idea behind MGTOW is just guys doing whatever while ignoring women. Which is fine in theory (you do you as long you aren’t causing trouble for others) but in reality it’s usually just a bunch of jaded incels. Like destiny said, the only solid point overall I’ve heard from redpill fucks is to get fit. Ain’t no women who wants a slob or at least the 8-10’s that these basement dwellers be simping for.
The part about practicing leadership in team based video games is definitely a truth. I use to play Rainbow Six Siege with 4 other teammates that I would try to organize an attack strategy with. I recommend trying to do it with randoms as well sometimes, because even though there are always going to be some people who are stubborn and don't want to work together, I believe that most people do prefer someone else in a leadership role. Though it's important that you understand the basics of what you should be doing, otherwise you will be getting better at leading the wrong way.
I had a crush that lasted close to a decade... Started when I met her around grade 2 or 3, ended with me finally getting the courage because high school graduation was around the corner in grade 12 and I got rejected... Then I think I may have had situational depression for like 2 years with the first year after it being really bad... Eventually I realized even if she didn't reject me there it probably wouldn't have worked out anyway because I've got tons of baggage basically and that realization of the futility made me feel better about it...
it´s funny how they say women show sympathy, but lack empathy when they themselves cannot understand the female experience. So if you tell any guy that hey, starting from the age of 12, creepy men start to approach you and either say or try to do bad things to you, he would feel bad for you, but he would never understand what you have to go through as a woman. it´s such a stupid false point they kept emphasizing forgetting that it applies to them as well.
Keep on covering this guy destiny I appreciate it! I have seen many stories of impressionable, directionless lost dudes being somewhat radicalized by people like Sneako and not in a good way.
More I listen, the more I have been agreeing with the redpill community lately. Its quite eye opening not just from a financial standpoint, but just as a sense of direction. Also appreciate destiny shedding light on tate and this guy 🙏
@31:50 It’s always a trip when men complain about the female privilege of just existing and looking pretty when *they* are the ones who create that privilege in the first place. If you’re constantly going on about beauty, fEmiNiniTy, and submission being a priority, don’t be mad when that’s all a woman brings to the table. You can’t celebrate yourself 24/7 for your “logic”, money, and masculinity, then resent that obligation when it doesn’t benefit you. 😂 Pick a side. Be anti-feminist and red-pilled or egalitarian. This back-and-forth narrative is tiring.
Yes and no at the same time as it’s been thousands of years of change or molding to certain things we like it’s hypocritical but right like if they said they hated war but men mostly go to war it’s a wild dilemma same with climate change and it’s our fault and not at the same time because we as individuals didn’t do it but as a group it happened
Yup, exactly. These men are literally creating the demand for these women but then they seethe that these women exists when it’s literally what they ask for since they also love to complain when a women brings more to the table. Though if they had the self awareness to realize this, I guess they wouldn’t be in the redpill rabbit hole to begin with.
@@Channel-23s war is a completely different scenario when that occurred due to men LITERALLY (I'm only capitalizing that word for emphasis, not for sarcasm or anything rude or blunt etc... literally ♥️) being more replaceable than women due to men being able to impregnate and then die from whatever causes whether it's disease, illnesses, age, battling, etc, while a woman would need to take 9 months in order to "replace" said man who passes away. The OP is def spot on though regarding this predetermined concept when it comes to resenting obligation
I love the line most people see that and get mad. If you see someone who isn't attractive dating a hot model and your mad about it you need to get help. Because most people don't care and probably don't even notice it most of the time
21:07 he’s talking about survival tactics beings the reason why so many women don’t experience empathy but maybe a lot of them just don’t experience the dating market the same we do
The Kimmel skit was decently funny, I agree. The monologue was horrible though, but that is par for the course with Kimmel (truly never understood why people watch him). The main thing I think is weird is how people are surprised by how game streaming is a thing. Watching games while not playing it yourself has been a thing since the dawn of time. And a more social version of that is just hooking in some talkshow or radioshow vibes. How could anyone not see that is something like that might be popular?
never got that either. How hard can it be to understand the appeal in watching people perform tests of strategy and reflexes against some of the best in the world when you´d never question the legitimacy of watching a guy kick a ball? Feels like everything you´d bring up to justify the latter you can say about the former. I understand not getting the younger generation sometimes, but here it´s like you´d have to actively try really hard to not make this connection.
didnt south park make an entire episode about that months prior to this bit? Also how is watching someone play a game different from watching a sport match.
@@mekullag it's because video games are so accessible. People watch pro sports partly for a team/community reason but also because they are watching things they are physically incapable of doing themselves, and which aren't that easy to participate in. Like most people cannot come close to doing a serve like a pro tennis player. Not only that, but they probably aren't that close to a tennis court, and don't have anyone to play against if they are. All that stuff takes way more effort to do than turning on a TV with a game of tennis. Video games on the other hand are mostly designed to be easy enough to pick up and start playing. If you're watching a Fotnite stream then you probably can just play Fotnite yourself immediately at home. And that's just for competitive games, where you can say it's like sports and you just like to follow top players or see the best people at it. But a huge amount of streaming isn't even that, it's people playing single player games by themselves, or playing multilayer but not that well or competitively. If you compare that to traditional sports, it would be like broadcasting a guy just throwing a baseball with a stranger in his garden, which would probably be equally bemusing to boomers. L
@@krombopulos_michael Thank you for taking the time to make a few counterpoints. It at least helps me understand why people who haven´t really thought about the issue might think the way they do. But I still don´t think it makes sense. At least once someone actually thinks about it, they should be able to see all the parallels to watching sport on the TV and even many advantages that watching a stream has. F.e.: the community thing to me is far more pronounced on streaming platforms, as the chat function supplies anything from real conversations between small groups to the feeling of being part of a huge crowd screaming and cheering in a stadium (of course it less than that, but my point is there are big communities that you can really feel a part of). Same goes for the team thing, most big video game streamers are members of pro teams, but the difference is I´ll never be able to interact with Christiano Ronaldo by shouting my opinion from the sidelines while he´s training. Even if I spent a few bucks on a beer just prior. The connection between streamers and watchers is so much more intense than between football fans and athletes that parasocial interactions are incredibly common. If that´s a good thing or not is a different question, but it certainly explains why people might actually be far more engaged watching a Fortnite stream than a football match: It´s not like watching a random guy throw a ball in his backyard, it´s like meeting your friends. The big streamers who are not particularly good are all entertainers, a better comparison to why people watch them might be listening to radio personalities. They might just be especially funny or smart or both and discuss things you care about (in this case your favorite games). Playing a game yourself also comes with a greater amount of stress, time commitment and attention. Many people who´d watch Markiplier play 1000 indie horror games wouldn´t touch one themselves because they wouldn´t be able to enjoy it. With any online game you have to be prepared to encounter griefing and bullying, enemies taunting you and allies blaming you for a loss. Not everyone wants to deal with that. You can also leave a stream at any moment, but not your online game in which maybe a bunch of team members are doomed to lose if you did. You can watch someone play League while you´re on the toilet, cooking, cleaning, doing your homework, but you couldn´t play yourself. In short I really think there are tons of reasons why people might not be able or want to just play a game themselves.
I think my problem with discussions around substances is that everyone has a unique relationship with them. And everyone has a different definition of what addiction is. For some people smoking weed provides numerous therapeutic benefits that is a net positive improvement in their well-being, functioning, etc. But there are also other people who find weed has the inverse effect-- and becomes problematic in that the negatives begin to outweigh the positives, whether due to unsustainable habits or because it never really provided much more to the person than recreation. So you end up with 2 groups. One group swears by weed, says it does so many amazing things for them, and then there's group two who says weed is just addictive and causes harm. The two groups had two fundamentally different experiences with the drug so it's really hard to reconcile the two. I think its important to not discount anyone's experience with marijuana, we shouldnt hand wave it away as a vice or addiction, or to do the same by saying it's harmless and you're just overreacting if you have a hard time with it. Both experiences are completely valid and real. Everybody's body and brain chemistry is super different, so the way certain substances like marijuana interact with us is going to be generally different for some groups of folkw to the next. This is why for one person marijuana makes them more productive, creative, happier, more calm and focused, and for someone else it turns them into an anxious or depressed mess, or someone with zero motivation to do anything, or makes them fixate on things that ultimately take away their ability to be productive or interact with others meaningfully. I think we tend to go to either extreme too often when we discuss substances. It's either this miracle drug that cures everything and its all overblown, or it's this thing that destroys your life and turns you into a loser. I dislike either extreme. I don't think we should ban or massively restrict access to recreational drugs like marijuana, but I also think we should be careful about how we provide access to these things and how we market them, or talk about them. You should never tell someone "you NEED to use marijuana it'll improve your life so much, it will do this and this and this", it should be "You should look into marijuana and do your research before trying it, just be mindful that its not for everyone and that you should be aware of the risk of dependency and other negative effects it might have, its not a miracle drug." We should be more measured in the way we present things like that. I think that's where we're running into issues... we're sometimes pressuring people into using marijuana and trying to convince them its so amazing and we gas it up so much that we have too many people that it doesn't really benefit who are using it, when id prefer that people make a very informed and conscious decision to use it. And I'd like it if we provided more education on how to *responsibly* use marijuana.
I really like your take! I definitely agree that Marijuana affects different people well differently! I use Marijuana and I can go days without it. I usually use it on nights where I have a hard time sleeping! But my friend however usually goes into financial debt in order to get it. And they always seem unable to function without it. We are the two sides of the extreme! But I think that's why destiny talked about how different personality traits may determine how addicted we are to said drug!
Using their own logic. They want as much power as they can possibly get, but also power corrupts people. They're unknowingly telling you that they wanna be as corrupt as possible and not to trust them
Legitimately hyped to see how destiny performs on their show. I wonder if it’ll equal the Jontron era of potentially alt right ppl being taken out of that pipeline. If nothing else this’ll be solid content for all of breadtube for a solid month.
Idk the thing is the red pill community thinks destiny a cuck so some people will just completely side step whatever he says. If joe rogan said these things people prolly swit h
I was one of those fools saying weed is not addicting while also spending like 100 dollars a week for weed! I’ve been two months sober now god bless. Tbh I would probably go back to smoking but now being aware that I don’t want to fuck myself up.
41:30, it's a really hard pill to swallow. I'm 26 and been out of a relationship for years now, I just haven't had the time, energy, or interest to get back into the whole dating thing, but now as time goes on it seems less and less appealing, especially now knowing Destiny's take. So now this part of life that I /should/ have invested in, but neglected, just becomes steeper and steeper to sort out, day by day, and it's now just a bigger impending doom, because yeah I'd love to get into a lifelong relationship but now I'm left with a worse dating pool than if I just went full send in my late teens/early 20's. And with all the other stuff I'm trying to deal with in my life, it's just ANOTHER hassle. And I'm not so keen for online dating/apps, but I totally get that that's pretty much the best chance of success I have in this day and age. It all feels so hopeless so I again drop out of the whole dating fiasco, and yeah I'm just shooting myself in the foot
I don't think dating apps have actually taken over as the #1 way people meet their partners. It's still "through friends" afaik. I don't think dating apps are your best chance. They're like 70/30 men/women and they make their money from desperate dudes paying for extra features, not from actually matching people up. Working on joining a larger interconnected social network with lots of like-minded people is the way. I met my fiance when we were both 30 and had just broken up with our SOs. I met him when I moved back to town and started looking up old friends from high school and reconnecting.
Alex Jones promoted that Joe Rogan N-word compilation because Joe said Alex was wrong about something lmao people forget that Alex dedicated a whole episode of his show to calling joe the devil and saying jesus sent alex to destroy rogan
I feel like modern day men who are emotionally weak are coasting on the legacy of our ancestors who practiced stoicism and actually WERE less emotional than women (because of social conditioning and practice at it).
I love how at around the 1:47:00 mark, Fresh is going on his racial profiling rant saying that despite it being unfair, he “doesn’t give a fuck” and he “adapts”. Then Sneako goes on about complacency (bad) vs ambition (good), completely forgetting that Fresh just made the most complacent rant possible seconds earlier.
Nope. It is admiting that field is muddy and yes there is a lot of stones. So you can either stand there like a bitch and cry that you cannot play or man up and play anyway.
at around minute 17 a really funny point was made about women not being able to understand men's struggles like not being able to fucks bitchs. Well allot of men are gonna ignore female problems like having to be afraid when going out at night because someone might sexually assault them and that is coming from a man. I think us men to an extent have it much easier in that regard.
I think the reason for clingy being a strongest turn-off is that it's a magnifier for all other problems that a person may have. E.g. if a person is an asshole or super manipulative, as long as they are not clingy, you can just slip away from them easily as/when needed. But let's say you meet a person and they're absolutely perfect but clingy: now you're in a position where you have to bet that you instantly after meeting know everything about them, because otherwise any unknown but negative thing will be only magnified by clinginess. Any other negative you can usually temporarily tolerate as you figure out if there's other negatives.
I think it’s performative to a degree. Sneako’s copying the Andrew Tate formula to make easy $$$ on streams. There’s a huge market of young men who want to hear stuff like this, sure Sneako might believe a fair bit of it, but the cookie cutter regurgitation of all these red pill talking points is just to hit the right notes for all the 12 year olds tuning in.
Sneako is the sign that I'm too old for the internet. I don't have the patience to hope he stops having dipshit takes. Looks like it's back to podcasts and audiobooks for me, because this is a waste of my attention.
right like if you’re gonna be loudly stupid, at least be stupid in a way I haven’t heard before instead of regurgitating middle school level gender war takes lol these dudes are just painfully predictable
These Red Pill interactions are very important. I’m glad you finally get a chance to combat them and absorb their viewers. Continue to engage critically and give points where valid arguments are made, but just add depth. Great Job Steven!! I also had switch from an Atheist into something this year too. I understand how it’s effecting your worldview and arguments. It’s noticable in the last few weeks.
I'm 28 and haven't been in a long term relationship since high school. Legit worried I'm not gonna find someone. People act like it's easier if you're a girl but getting a DATE isn't the same as getting a relationship. I don't think anything's "wrong" with me, I'm not looking for 6ft5 millionaires or anything, but I also can't figure out why nothing's "clicked" with any of the guys I've talked to. :/
The addiction part with personality is defenitely true.. me and all my friends have that problem we quit for months knowing that it feels better being sober YET we cme back to the addiction every time i had quit for a few months but im hooked again and i know i can never truly quit i do less drugs now i barely smoke weed but i still do stimulants sometimes alot sometimes not at all but its still there
41:55 This notion left out another sect of people entirely: the people that have been single and have had LTR's, but have figured they enjoy being single more. I've had some great LTR's (also some rough times of course) but as I got closer to 30, I realized how much I enjoy a lot of the perks of being single. No obligations, more money, freedom to get up and explore the world when I want to, and I find casual dating to be adventurous and fun in a way because I enjoy meeting new people regularly.
I think the issue with weed is that probably the reason people feel miserable without it is because that is their normal state. Their life was miserable to start with, and they didn't know it until they had some cannabis. It's like pain. If you take a drug to reduce pain, you go off it, and start to feel pain that doesn't mean the drug caused the pain. The pain was first. Of course some drugs can be addictive, but we have to be careful about confusing a problem with the solution.
If self improvement is not the answer what is? You said you were married before the streaming. All I want is one girlfriend but it’s almost impossible unless of course I tell woman I have followers.
52:46 Just one thing real quick: many people find it unattractive when women are really assertive and 'confident' in social settings like in the way you had just described before this. It's not always a matter of 'feeling intimidated'. That's a really annoying mistake feminists make far too often and it's a very underhanded and cowardly way of insulting men. Men can find something annoying, or unattractive when a woman does a certain thing without anything deeper playing a role in it. Some people like it and other people don't. Why can't we just leave it at that? A simple personal preference.
I think it's related to levels of insecurity. Insecure men find confident women unattractive because being less confident than a woman triggers that insecurity of being less masculine or a bad leader. Insecure women love confident men because it's socially acceptable for women to follow and not lead. Confident people of both genders don't mind being leaders to insecure people, but confident, competent people *love* other confident, competent people regardless of gender. Being in a room of confident, competent people is amazingly fun, the social order is stable, and everyone's needs get met because confident people advocate for themselves and others. I've never met a confident, competent person who disliked other confident, competent people. It's only insecure people who avoid them.
@@jameverywhere That's a very generalizing opinion, I think. You are talking about people as if there's no difference between men and women, even though there clearly is. Especially when you're talking about the social and sexual relationships between the two. Generally speaking, women are way more frequently (and more severely) attracted to men who are confident and try to lead. That has nothing to do with the girl being insecure or confident, herself. So it only makes sense that men like it when girls let them lead instead of taking a leadership position herself. We've known this for thousands of years. It's simple biologically driven attraction. So yes, there are of course situations where the person is insecure and weak, which will drive his opinion of other people's behavior. But I wasn't talking about these specific situations. Instead, I was talking about mentally and emotionally healthy and developed people.
@@darkaquatus yep my post generalizes a lot, but so does yours. there's plenty of differences between men and women, and I said in my post that insecure women like confident men even tho' insecure men don't like confident women. But I honestly believe that confident and competent people like each other because there's nothing to be afraid of. You can have two confident, competent people together with one leader and one follower. Confidence doesn't mean you are the leader, it means you know where your skills are, can lead if needed, and know how to take care of yourself or advocate for yourself. Two competent people will work as a team and cede leadership to each other when it makes sense. I don't think men are naturally leaders and women followers overall. I think women naturally rule the household and small social groups, and men lead in the world at large or in outer circles. That's been my experience with my family. Confident, competent women run the home, raise good children, and make important family decisions in her wheelhouse, and confident, competent men are the family's liaison with the outside world, provide for and raise good children, and make important family decisions in his wheelhouse.
@jameverywhere No offense, but I believe that my original message still stands strong. I am talking about the majority of people. There's a lot more to be said about this subject, which is perfectly fine. But your response made it seem like there was something wrong with what I said, even though you might not have meant it like that. There are a lot of things you can say that will add to my message, but I don't think there's anything you can subtract from it, since I don't think I said anything that's untrue. Perhaps I mistook your message, that's perfectly possible. It felt like you are trying to argue with me even though you might just want to explore the topic I brought up, I dunno.
@@darkaquatus i think personal preferences are driven by deeper things sometimes, so I'm exploring what's behind the preferences. Altho' to make progress in this discussion we'd have to both define what we mean by "confident".
Yeah like literally just imagine someone being clingy towards you and you'll understand. Like even if it's someone you otherwise thought was cool or attractive, or even someone you already know and like, it's just going to weird you out
“With men, your word is your bond” BULL FUCKING SHIT. I have so many flaky ass, lying, weaselly fucking dudes in my life. It’s a man or woman thing, most people are just spineless, that’s just kind of the way it is. Sticking to your principles and your word is hard, it’s inconvenient, and given the opportunity, most people will flake on it as easily as they breathe.
Fresh and Fit announced that Destiny and Sneako will be in studio this Friday. And Destiny is doing a late night show with girls. This will very interesting
it's almost funny how much these guys are projecting. Especially with the whole "women stick to their type and assume all other guys are the same way as their type" meanwhile they assume all women care about zodiac signs I guess?
19:00:00 Kevin Samuels says opposite. It's harder for a girl with a child to find a high value man. Woman choose who they sleep with, guys choose who to marry.
@@helenline1790 Yep you don't go talk about your issues to women you go to other men first get their advice then maybe go to women thats how it should be men need to bite the bullet and self improve and get out of their feelings
I don’t know if I’d use the word “invade,” but women have absolutely entered almost every traditionally male space and irrevocably changed the entire atmosphere.
As an experienced Woman, all Ill say is intelligence and humor is always the most important thing when it comes to who I would choose to date. Hot guys are good for fun times but when it comes to relationships I need brains and wit.
As a hot guy, I would never want to be in a relationship with a woman who doesn’t find me hot but only wants me cause I make her laugh. Fuck that. Do you realize how condescending you sound ?
Stop the cap. You are a slightly obese actuarial clerk named Theodore, who refuses to go by Ted, from Boise, Idaho. You can lie your friends but you can't lie to me Theodore.
And this comment is exactly why those guys put their heads together to articulate what they call "redpill". This exact comment translates to "Hot guys are good for partying and fucking, but "inlligent" guys with good senses of "humor" like to cuddle with and are good with kids. One is a teddy bear and the other one is a sexual outlet on call. This is why the same redpill space uses pejoratives like "beta cuck", she ends up loving her significant other like family while her sexual fantasies cannot be about guys like her "sweet" and loving partner. The guys in the fantasy are nothing like him
I just can’t believe that they talked for 2 hours that they don’t punch down women they just try to “help men” but don’t offer any concrete advice on their podcasts other then buy my course
As a heavy cannabis user that uses to quell pain, it definitely can be addictive, even if it's just a psychological addiction, and not physical. I struggle to go more than 2 days without it. I've had a major spinal fusion due to scoliosis and kyphosis, base of my neck to a few inches above my hips. Eating becomes impossible, as my dysphagia (difficulty swallowing) flares up when I don't smoke. I can't sleep because the muscle spasms in my back start up, putting me in debilitating pain, and when I'm in pain, I'm just an angry person, prone to snapping at people. Again, cannabis definitely can be addictive. I wish I could stop using it, but it's either cannabis or opiates, and, I'd rather not go that route...
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That's right keep making content about them. Keep helping them be more relevant than you.
Sneako is like a Red Pill soundboard. I honestly don’t even know if he believes what he is saying or is just dopey as hell and is regurgitating whatever he’s heard online.
The second one. He’s a literal parrot.
I think he regurgitates everything he hears online because he believes it.
@@SeaphoamGreen Exactly.
its a copy and paste "personality" and then you get a bunch of 11 year olds spamming W in your chat. Give it a couple of months and he'll be rug pulling like the rest of them.
Good to see you here Macabre
Whats funny is that they keep saying that women cant empathize, but the entire reason they say that is because they cannot empahtize with women
Anytime someone has a really toxic belief it's a reasonably safe bet that they're just projecting.
"Women are shallow and only want the best of the best" = "I am shallow and only want the best of the best" (ask these guys what type of women they want and it'll become clear)
"Women have no empathy and are incapable of love" = "I have no empathy and am incapable of love" (ask these guys literally anything about any woman in any painful situation and watch as they try to find some way to spin it into the situation being the girl's fault)
etc etc.
Lol what?
@@kennethpaulsen9239 Ong what??💀
@@kennethpaulsen9239trouble with reading comprehension?
Just because many of us men grew out of our young ignorance, doesn’t mean sneako will. Fresh and Fit are proof this doesn’t always happen. He is on track to becoming like them with his echo chambers, so I think it’s great you are talking to him now and planting these seeds.
Destiny is wrong to assume that everyone will go through the same radical changes he went through. Progressives resist the reality that people are quite regularly fundamentaly different
I don't get how Destiny thinks that's even supposed to happen, especially when they're actively reinforcing the things they're supposed to "grow out of".
pause planting these seeds
Ot won't won't a difference
What is considered “young ignorance”? What characteristic now, makes you any less ignorant? I’ve seen and heard many adults who still suffer from the same ignorance many still complain about today?
When people say "weed isn't addictive" they almost always don't understand that is referring to physical addiction that causes death. It is 100% easy to become habitually addicted to smoking in general. There is a reason its called chronic.
Those that say "weed isn't medicinal" also don't understand weed.
Bingo. Recovered opiate fiend here who became just as addicted to weed before going full sober. Anything be in used in excess to escape your feelings is an addiction and is unhealthy. Just cause I you don’t like 40 pounds and look like the walking dead doesn’t change it 100% is mentally addicting
As a person on recovery from addiction, someone who know what it is all about knows that everything that makes you happy or gives you a break from suffering can become an addiction, ESPECIALLY weed
Yep. Your body won’t get addicted to weed like with alcohol and especially nicotine, but your mind…. Oh boy.
Smoked weed daily for 10 years and stopped during covid lockdowns and haven't used it since. After like a day or two of feeling bored when I would usually be baked, I had zero physical or mental withdraw symptoms. From my experience, weed isn't even slightly addictive. For comparison, I stopped drinking coffee for a few days and felt like absolute shit for a week until a drank more.
my balanced brethren
How Sneako has actual functioning brain cells is beyond me at this point. It legit feels like he just molds his mind to whatever crackpot shit he hears everytime.
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He is wildly unintelligent
As a member of the Daliban, I will believe only what our leader(not a cult) says. Inshallah
Familial patterns (conscious or unconscious) and life experiences are what fundamentally shape us as people. Sneako is simply a continuation of a huge group of people with very similar (or identical) familial patterns and life experiences.
@@anubisgod23 i genuinely don't understand why did destiny call him a "very ambitious and smart 23 year old". I agree with "ambitious" part, but smart? Really? I think 23 isn't such a young age to use it as a justification for being so immaturely stupid
Feminine women are not retarded. It actually takes a lot of thought, care, and work to maintain a smoothly functioning household. Homemakers deserve more respect.
But most can’t maintain a smoothly functioning household
They disrespect homemakers and then complain feminine women arent celebrated.
Exactly these aren't mutually exclusive concepts.
Shut up bro doin the dishes and making dinner and sweeping a carpet is ez it’s only hard raising like a small baby who don’t let u speep
Pretty sure the only "feminine" portion of a woman these guys seek out is the T&A part. They actively go out of their way to avoid the ones that would make a good mother or wife. Dumb & hot is a lot easier to deal with when you're just trying to get your rocks off.
"Women are so inherently selfish they have to care for the child." Selfish is caring.... for a child...... god dam just wow
Woman mostly care about themselves and their children that's how we evolved there's nothing wrong with it.
@@Bidhan_ahmed and men don't?
@@crimsonking7179 water runs downhill my guy, that's what he's saying. Men care about themselves, their woman and child and women care about themselves and their children and children care about themselves
@@iluvbbw6911 I respectful disagree
@@Bidhan_ahmed You're right. Fathers don't care about their children at all. 🙄
Sneako: “Establishment bad.”
Host: “Establishment bad. Also, establishment is not good.”
Sneako: “Establishment is not good?”
Host: “Establishment bad.”
yet Marion was a fed
ok but unironically establishment bad.
@@somerando8615 in what sense? so bad that we shouldn't even try to change it in a non-violent way or?
Sneako’s worldview: “everyone should get rich and only be concerned about themselves”
Also Sneako: “The elite are fucking us over because all they care about is money and power”
@@JakovLSSJ4 French Revolution or Russian Revolution; which one?
Gone from vaush fixation to sneako fixation, proud of you steven.
Content obsession*
Shyguy thinks he’s smarter than most people because he watches destiny
@@goldenmemes51 content addict* grifter....I can think of a few names all these guys are
@@CarnelianChris he is
Much better content thankfully. Finally out of the dark age of just lauren, mr.girl, and then 5 words every hour Vaush react videos.
Destiny's take is 100% true on addictive personalities imo. Ever since I opened that first TF2 crate at the ripe age of 13, I've never been the same.
How many unusuals tho?
i dont think you understood what he was saying...
@@cosmosyn2514 only ever unboxed three.. out of like 500 crates. Fml.
The weed hype needs to chill out.
@@YemYum I think he’s Memeing my dude
These kinda podcast and creators will never help you find fullfilling relationships. If you want a different girl every night then fine, but its weird that they bash women if they sleep around. If you wanna make a podcast that encourages men to better themselves and also have more influence over women than fine, but if a woman wants to do the same podcast for women then shes a misandrist. If a woman starts an Onlyfans she's just cheating weak men out of money, but you can skip paying taxes cause youre smart enough to cheat a system out of your contribution. Now both men and women have these bad influences that dont foster healthy relationships. The tagline of "Women are ruining the nuclear family... so heres how you sleep with 10 women" should be a sign that these people dont care about traditional values. These people say theyre teaching people to be their best self but how can you do that if you teach them to hate commitment and responsibility.
I’m surprised Destiny didn’t describe clinginess as desperate, that’s why it’s a turn off for anyone. People have different thresholds for how attached their partner can get before it starts feeling clingy but sex isn’t the common denominator there, attachment style is. Likewise the opposite end of the spectrum, distant/avoidant, is also a turn off for most people at a certain point
Clinginess is you wanting to talk or be around ur partner and if they find that too much then it’s clinginess. If not, that’s okay, enjoy life together.
Even if someone was “not attatched” after having sex for the first time, avoidence IS a reaction to attatchment. Its biology to become attatched after sex. You only become more desensitized the more you do it. So I disagree, I think sex IS the common denominator
He's said clinginess is one of the worse things you can do when trying to get girls plenty of times. Desperate idk. But def not attractive.
I might be the only girl, that actually likes clinginess. I enjoy it when someone wants to be around me. But I think desperate is a deeper level than clinginess.
@L L my sister was the same way or so she said. Her husband isn't particularly clingy though.
Man I used to watch sneako back in 2019 and he made great videos, seemed like a smart kid and honestly it's really hard to tell if he believes what hes saying or if hes just grifting super hard
@@uhhhfrick9767 always has been
Was wondering the same thing used to love watching him
I would totally sell out my beliefs and lie to the masses if I made tons of money doing it
Seems like they are his values.
Its not grift. I knew alot of guys lile him growing up.
Not everyone thinks lilke a dgger
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I think saying "how smart are you ever at 23?" is more than a little bit of lazy assessment. I'm a month older than Sneako, this is not normal behavior for me or my peer groups. To me, Sneako sounds like a teenager. Regardless, your perspective absolutely is dismissive of intellectual capabilities of people that age. Yes, I understand people gain my life knowledge with age, but this sets a very low bar for young adults. You're always going to be smarter with age. By this logic, a 50-year-old can just excuse the actions the 30-year-olds Fresh and Fit. In relation, they're young and dumb compared to the 50-year-old. You're viewing this through the lens of your age while being completely unaware that you're doing so. Let's not normalize the bad behavior in young adults by marginalizing their agency.
Totally untrue. Age is only one factor among many that influence your intelligence and wisdom. There are plenty of older people who have done little soul searching or have undertaken pretty much no self-reflection, and a good number of younger folks who have had to learn fast and become wiser quickly. You'll say these are exceptions, but I would disagree. The numbers of these ''rare cases'' are high enough for such a generalization to be too simplistic.
Steven also tends to generalize a lot about these sorts of topics. I understand why, though.
I accidentally "Let's normalize" instead of "Let's not normalize" in the last sentence. Fixed it now
@@RestlessTome Exactly, Papa Gut does a similar thing. Let's let bad things be bad things. If they're old enough to legally drink, we don't need to handle them with kiddie gloves. Sneako overtalks people, screams like a banshee, diminishes, questions men's masculinity. The moment anyone returns that energy (to a lesser extent), he gets triggered. So, now we have a situation where Sneako can speak with near impunity (specifically in the way he constructs his arguments, because I know he gets his content banned sometimes), and everyone has to try to intelligently and carefully engage with him.
@@timothyonime8199 im glad im not the only one. Im in my mid twenties and the way sneako is talking is the way i talked when i was fucking 14. This guy just has shit beliefs, now maybe one day he will change and look back in shame at his stupidity, but its not cause he is young its cause he simply has shit views and beliefs.
Did you hear sneako as a teenager? This is him when he doesn't care anymore.
it’s perplexing watching something like this when you know several women in your life that are wildly smart and accomplished. Every time they talk about women it’s like their speaking about a different, much dumber species.
It’s as Destiny said, they specifically seek out women who have nothing going on other than their looks.
They only are around insta thots.
@@EsotericOccultist How does this relate at all to what they just said?
@@EsotericOccultist when I was in the hospital most of the doctors there were women, being a doctor is a thinking profession, the examples you listed are manual labor, you just owned yourself.
Ya because most of those women were given privileges to get there! You people are so ignorant and oblivious, because new age culture is very feminist, and that means no longer advocating men to be in good career positions, but that’s now only reserved for women! There’s also Avenues women are allowed to have that are 10x harder for men, because there’s a quota for mostly women.
This new culture has now completely taken that men be expendable, and completely run with this idea to the point of turning men into savage idiots!
Sneako: "you NEED money to become the best version of yourself. Get all the money you can so you can obtain whatever you want" Also sneako: "the rich want to keep us down because all they want is money and power". 💀 Thank you destiny for calling him out on yesterday's video saying he is the problem he is creating what he hates lol
Mn this is so ridiculous, so you want to stay poor??😄 hear for me bro no woman is gonna respect you as a brokie.
Another thing there are people who use there money for bad things but not all. but i guess you're grown enough to understand that.
He says we need money so We are not on those people control
You do realize the people he's talking about are people who do things to influence government structures. Not some TH-cam kid with maybe 1 million dollars.
Those are not contradictions. For that to be true, getting money and rich must be the same. It’s not. You’re making that assertion. You don’t need to be rich to make your dreams. However, the rich is clearly the elites/higher ups etc
I love how destiny is honest about how emotional men are, at least he admits it. growing up in social conservative circles my whole life is seeing men spiral constantly and be outwardly and passively aggressive all the time while decrying themselves more stoic and logical was always so funny to me. I'm an aspie so hyporeactive and kind of sociopathic so i think human emotionality is weird edit: women are super emotional also but it's culturally acceptable for us to admit it
@@codexmachina1358 thanks for proving my point bro, the entire point is redpill and right wing guys pontificating over women their entire lives about how emotional we are while being equally emotional.
@@247Lakers wait who's a girl?
@@247Lakers and I don't disagree that some women can value decisiveness and 'strength during hard times" in their bfs or husbands but that doesn't mean these men aren't allowed to have emotions or be sad or be vulnerable ever. women actually like it when men can talk about their emotions
@@codexmachina1358 I mean it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not on the internet so can a blame em?🤷🏼♂️lol. On a serious note though, she ain't wrong.
@@codexmachina1358 how is it on the nose unless you are in a echo-chamber that believes a woman sharing an anecdote that confirms a point made in a stream is "attention-seeking". i was just adding to the convo
That advice for those with an addictive personality is good to get out to people. If you know you cannot control yourself on simple things the last thing you need is hard drugs. Know yourself and be safe.
Interesting fact regarding murder documentaries, I make them on TH-cam, and my analytics show my viewers are 58% male and 42% female.
Edit to add time stamp: 1:24:06
Summary of the redpill: never engage emotionally so no one can ever hurt you. I feel like all these guys have some past relationship trauma they need to work through
thats what based means lol
Summary of the Redpill:
Men on the internet comparing notes and coming to logical conclusions or consensus. We don't need therapists.
These men are patriarchs so they will never accept the west as currently constructed. That’s Based af.
@@RedEverything Men in red pill spaces do have a lot of trauma and they do need a lot of therapy, making "logical conclusions" is nothing more then a copium filled buzzword.
@@asmbeats5369 I would say the manosphere / redpill is therapy. Most men these days grow up without any guidance, so they go online to find answers.
It's legit wild to watch Sneako, whether it's his old videos or his new ones that attempt to be little essays or self reflections compared to him talking against someone pushing back against his beliefs. He sounds so composed and thoughtful, like he's actually sat down and thought about the best way to convey what he believes.
Probably the worst part is that I remember having like half his world views when I was his age. Not modern "anti-jab" stuff, but the generic worldview of anti-government, anti-"control", anti-sex culture(but it was all women and "Chads's" fault of course). Fingers crossed that Destiny's right that time will curb a lot of his more knee-jerk beliefs.
Sneako has never had a stance of "it's all Chad's fault" ever.
Y'all trying to make this man out to be someone who hasn't had multiple relationships. Everyother position you listed is right though
sex culture/casual hookups is gayy
Sneako is just a 15 year old that never grew up
@@wtfimcrying not if i use them as training for the real wifey
@@tomkem.6515 you cant "train" for a real wife by fucking random women thats teenage logic.
I've been looking more and more for the "kernels of truth" in these redpill rants and podcasts in general, and the problem is they exist in more abundance than most people who disagree with redpill would like to admit. So much so that it's kind of scary, because 10 years ago I might see those kernels of truth, and then take the rest of the content as gospel as well. They mix common personal experiences with generalizations so fluidly, and it appeals to someone looking for answers that they claim to be giving. Until a blue pill analogue that acknowledges some redpill truths exists on a large enough scale, I think this generation of men on the internet might become increasingly red/blackpilled on women, becoming incels or worse because they can't apply the solutions given by redpillers to their own lives.
True, nice post. If you wouldn’t mind, could you give me some examples of what you disagree about?
The reason why red/blackpill is pinging these young boys because they're growing up with some sort of abuse and or trauma. They're trying to find love and express they sexuality and getting flak for it. The "blue" pill is weird about how they address problems. They too often call redpill/alpha dudes weird. Yet a lot of them are ironically "alpha" themselves due to the parasocial connections with their own fanbase. Blue pill/Leftists have been just as if not more toxic as other side. Especially, when it comes to how they treated Destiny. Red side maybe kinda dirt bags yet you can easily avoid them. Blue side seeming like to backstab you the moment you don't agree. Red side is so used to people not agreeing with them Blue isn't this why they have a problem now.
The solutions given by red pillers are not good, that's the problem.
Ur framing it like non redpill ppl are the ones talking about extremes
@@haselbasil2488 Most solutions are good, like personal responsibility and accountiblity. Stop chasing women that clearly aren't into you and or are spoken for. Don't cheat on your partner and walk away when your partner is cheating.
Also that a lot of the talk of enjoying life beyond working yourself to death or for people that don't give a shit is positive as hell.
A lot of the hookup ish is meh listen beyond it and you realize it ironically mimics a lot of feminist points. That's why they don't like redpill peeping their own game.
lol I get Destiny saying he's started factoring people's age in more often when talking to them, but Sneako is definitely still dumb for a 23 year old.
Turning 24 in a month
Yeah there's many others same age and far more intelligent and mature lol.
I don't agree
I'm 25 i feel like - an this might sound arrogant or cocky - he has no opinion that he hasn't heard before. Which makes it the opposite of the exact same coin. Feminists/Redpillers basically the same shit. One for Women and one for Men.
yeah i mean people are in medical school at 23. sneakos got the mental capacity of a 12 year old
"...how smart are you ever at 23?" at least smarter than sneako tbh
Yeah sorry, I get what Destiny means, and maybe this guy has some older stuff that's smarter, but on the streams he's been at above-average levels of idiocy, even if he was 5 years younger.
Sneako is a redpiller with woke sjw energy. It’s actually strange.
Can you give an example of the woke sjw energy
@@FlaresTreeHouse he can't
He's anti-sjw wtf? Or are you talking about being anti-government? (Which is essentially the same thing.)
A different flavor of extreme “woke” 😂
@@FlaresTreeHouse Sure. Both his debates with Destiny he’s appealed to race as an argument to never trust government and to never vote. Those concepts are “white people shit.” It’s weird.
Love how they claim they don't make excuses, but then spend two hours just whining at each other
So how are they making excuses by "whining"?
The way that everyone is talking about dating nowadays sickens me. It seems like such a joyless and inhumane process. Your long term partner should be your best friend. someone to share and enjoy your life with. How can you imagine to find someone like that if you seem to only date for datings sake, set strict rules and commodify everything. I genuinely feel alienated from this whole conversation and how everyone (even Destiny in some ways) seems to engage with this topic.
That's the problem with us becoming so modern. Before people paired up with people they knew from school/college/hometown/work. Now dating is overall a meat market and a lot of people do not know what they want. They have warped expectations which cause them to self-sabotage.
@@ExeErdna I think you are right. Our brains are probably not designed to connect to so many people through social media in a fleeting way, yet have almost no sense of community. It's a sad thought that young people get increasingly lonely and are unable to find genuine love and connection. You can tell by watching people like Sneako and Fresh and Fit that these people and probably most of their followers have never experienced real intimacy and romance.
We as a society should make every effort to help young people connect in the real world again, because shared experiences are the best foundation to build such relationships and friendships. I just don't know how with social media having the pull that it does...
@@dareth710 It kinda reminds me of the story of "The Tower of Babel" the tower to heaven was destroyed and human no longer could understand each other. Social media was another tower of babel we could make friends with people ANYWHERE. That was too powerful and once again we can no longer really understand each other.
A lot of people are socially starved and ignorant. All they have are parasocials which is why I cannot get so mad at "red pill" since they're no different from anybody else building a community online. Everybody's trying to find their space and be at peace. Then you have somebody going
"your peace is trash and you should like me"
I heard this from the leftists, right leaning mooks, the feminist, the red pill, the blackpill, the lgbt, the corpos, etc etc etc etc. All my tribe is better shit and I will save the world bullshit.
It's now "nowadays" it's just social circles of people who are terminally on internet. All these guys live on youtube, reddit, 4chan and they are all surrounded by the same social circles.
Cut off social media and get friends that aren't 24/7 on these chanels and you will see that it's not what dating is today at all. In fact dating is more diverse that it ever been.
Smoking ten times a day makes me feel like a rapper
Snoop Dogg be like: "Rookie numbers."
@@theobell2002 iz big bowls bro I promise
Flash some money, wear baggy clothes, and you got the full package 😂
@@izzylandyt it's a process
August, edit that Destiny x Sneako IRL stream ASAP, I'm going to cashapp you $2,000 for it to be out by tomorrow.
Pathetic.
It’s out lol
I feel so bad for this current generation. Jesus, the amount of shit that comes out of their mouths is mind-boggling.
Says every old person since the beginning of humankind
@@steveng6704 technology has made some things exponential...
As a side note however; People back in the day were against books. They would say books are a disincentive to learning skills or memorizing information.
@@steveng6704 I don't think that's a good comparison in general. You can say it in relation to specific subjects that have changed little from generation to generation. But the rate of evolution tech has nowadays, people being born after social media's creation, and how divided the country is in current times when even people from two generations back saying it's never been so bad. I don't think you can just wave it away so easily.
Ah yes, because when many conservatives said this about pro homosexuality, or extreme feminism, all of that was necessary for the current generation of that period….
I don't even really mind being insulted; I just can't stop rolling my eyes at the self pity of these people under the guise of being strong men. 'Waaaa women just can't begin to understand my struggles, life is sooo hard, life is so _easy_ for them. Waaah'. Fuck me 🙄
Yeah I found it always ironic how MGTOW crowd is 99% bitching about women and their all identity seems to be build around being "counter to women". Unironically If women got Thanos snapped in a second they would probably have their identity break.
Would you say your life is easy?
@@kennethpaulsen9239 I would say my life has its ups and downs just like everyone else,
@@PinkkElephantt and there is just zero truth to what they say?
@@kennethpaulsen9239 Do you think it's likely that women are waltzing through life, never having to worry about a thing? Or do you think it's more likely that women do not have all of the same struggles as men, but have some - perhaps more - that men don't care to consider? If all you're focused on is getting laid, I'm sure being a woman looks like an enviable position to be in. Pretty single-minded, though, and frankly hilarious considering one of the primary complaints is 'women don't understand us.'
40:00
I think Steven is starting to understand what truly separates knowledge from wisdom, and that is perspective and context.
True. Knowledge is the know-how, wisdom is the know-whether; know not or know-to
Destiny is going to cure red pill rage. He is the chosen one.
Literally impossible.
Redpill is the truth a soyboy with a girl name can't stop it.
@@0doublezero0 wtf does “feminism’s stronghold on our culture” mean?
@@0doublezero0 you get it, original comment is stupid.
If there are insecure man children in the world, there will always be redpill fart stains
@@0doublezero0 damn or we can man up and stop soying out because life is unfair and mainstream media is mean to us.
The biggest issue with the red pill is it’s an effective coping mechanism that overcorrects and leads to extremism. A lot of what the red pill tells you is true, but it’s not a Bible to live by.
I don't know whether I should take "sneako is a very intelligent 23 year old" as an insult or a compliment as a 24 y/o myself, lol.
Guess it could be both. But I don't see him being "just misguided", there's barely any thought going on there.
definitely made me feel hella smart lol
I used to buy into this shit, that women feel no empathy for men, fucked me up for such a long timw
They can't emphathize, only sympathize. Same is true of men, when I saw Roe V wade overturned my emotional state was complete indifference. I don't go out my way to care about the random monolithic group of women , this is the same reason why men's right activist are cringe.
"No one cares about men", I'm one and I personally do care about some random dude either. No is supposed to care about you, that's the first mistake, strangers are not obligated to caring about your well-being.
@@ahmarcamacho8404 reason I didn’t care about roe v wade is because i can’t really empathize with sexually loose people, not really a man-women thing for me
@@ahmarcamacho8404 its less about being an obligation and more about being something we should expect, as human beings. When in history has it ever been beneficial to not care about other people just because we dont know them personally or we cant relate to their personal experience? imagine if the white people who helped break down systematic racism decided not to do it because they couldnt empathize with that experience? it just doesnt make sense or help society in any way. Most of the time we help others and show support not because we can relate to the experience but because if a few circumstances were diffferent, we COULD be in that situation our selves.
Thats where i also think people miss the mark when it comes to sayings like "put yourself in so and so shoes." It just takes a different level of undertanding when you dont closely relate to an experience but because you could imagine yourself in that situation it makes you respond differently.
The only thing cringe about mens right activist, similar to feminist, is many of them are anti the other gender. them caring about the mental health and well being of other men shouldnt be cringe.
I'd love to see Sneako or the F&F guys sit down and have this conversation with their mothers and other female family members. Caught a bit on how Tate is never apart from his brother but has a very different relationship with his sister.
Their mothers would slap tf out of them if they talked like this around them.
Myron (fit) has spoken about his mom and that his mom used to tell him him about female nature. She used to tell Myron that western women are generally not fit to be wives or mothers. He said he dismissed most of what she said like most kids do until he started to experience the world for himself. Fresh was raised by his grandparents and has a similar take. That duty no longer exists in the west. And that marriages reach a roadblock and instead of keeping the house and family together the easy way is taken. Marriage isn't always about being happy. It's about duty to your kids and building a home.
fnf sneako destiny aba 2hr podcast
@@JohnDoe-iu5xi yes until the woman decides to castrate you via divorce courts.
@@JohnDoe-iu5xi That sounds miserable who wants to live their life like that.
Destiny helped me understand that it's not about smoking weed or not smoking weed, it's "does coming down off of weed feel really, really bad?"
Yes: when I'm financially stressed it's one of the worst feelings ever & that feeling lasts for like three days or so
No: when I'm coming down mid-workout it's one of the best feelings ever and that feeling lasts a couple days as well
@@crispin_21 Where did this come from? How is in any way related to what you are replying to?
@@chpgmr1372 it was not for this comment tho.
Oh shit they're the male version of "The view" 😂
They have no audience and their guests are feminists
Careful.. lest you hurt their fragile egos comparing them to women.
Perfect comparison lol
Hit the nail on the head
Whenever I hear this, I just ask myself if I would ever want my sisters to date or marry someone like this and it’s easily a no.
You don't even need that, we used to have MGTOW guy in our workplace and he eventually got fired just because he was such pain in the ass and extremely inappropriate with everyone. It was like having someone with a mind of 14 year old telling everything that comes to his mind with no filter. And out workplace is pretty chill and "edgy", also slightly autistic, so you have to be extra autistic to weird people out. He managed that.
@@Koooles well the main idea behind MGTOW is just guys doing whatever while ignoring women. Which is fine in theory (you do you as long you aren’t causing trouble for others) but in reality it’s usually just a bunch of jaded incels. Like destiny said, the only solid point overall I’ve heard from redpill fucks is to get fit. Ain’t no women who wants a slob or at least the 8-10’s that these basement dwellers be simping for.
The part about practicing leadership in team based video games is definitely a truth. I use to play Rainbow Six Siege with 4 other teammates that I would try to organize an attack strategy with. I recommend trying to do it with randoms as well sometimes, because even though there are always going to be some people who are stubborn and don't want to work together, I believe that most people do prefer someone else in a leadership role. Though it's important that you understand the basics of what you should be doing, otherwise you will be getting better at leading the wrong way.
I had a crush that lasted close to a decade... Started when I met her around grade 2 or 3, ended with me finally getting the courage because high school graduation was around the corner in grade 12 and I got rejected... Then I think I may have had situational depression for like 2 years with the first year after it being really bad... Eventually I realized even if she didn't reject me there it probably wouldn't have worked out anyway because I've got tons of baggage basically and that realization of the futility made me feel better about it...
@@ali.a9083 I'm alright with that, I don't want to be an alpha male
You are self improving, that's what makes your value even higher than others who don't acknowledge that 💯
@@FaylunaRaRa dude wake up from your softness
it´s funny how they say women show sympathy, but lack empathy when they themselves cannot understand the female experience. So if you tell any guy that hey, starting from the age of 12, creepy men start to approach you and either say or try to do bad things to you, he would feel bad for you, but he would never understand what you have to go through as a woman. it´s such a stupid false point they kept emphasizing forgetting that it applies to them as well.
Keep on covering this guy destiny I appreciate it! I have seen many stories of impressionable, directionless lost dudes being somewhat radicalized by people like Sneako and not in a good way.
More I listen, the more I have been agreeing with the redpill community lately. Its quite eye opening not just from a financial standpoint, but just as a sense of direction. Also appreciate destiny shedding light on tate and this guy 🙏
@@xiqy1959 u one of the people op is talkin about
@@samthemessiah9330 I personally love Waterloo's and always have lol
@@Mermayydman yeah radicalism is only ok when it's radical consumerism or radical socialism (internationalism).
He's not "covering" him - he's *platforming* him.
Sneako said he learned from Tate, Fresh and Fit, and Speed... what can you learn from speed? genuine question.
How to get people's attention, attention is currency
@@adrianflores3825 oh ok. i thought he meant more deep shit like being a man or somethin. i was confused.
barking
He might not smoke weed but you can’t convince me that Sneako doesn’t do other substances. Especially uppers.
My exact thoughts. Shows his hypocritical stance
yeah bro definitely takes adderall
Why?
@@arnulfodelgado562 Sneako on destiny stream admitted to taking drugs so oc is right
@@2crisp63 ok
@31:50 It’s always a trip when men complain about the female privilege of just existing and looking pretty when *they* are the ones who create that privilege in the first place. If you’re constantly going on about beauty, fEmiNiniTy, and submission being a priority, don’t be mad when that’s all a woman brings to the table.
You can’t celebrate yourself 24/7 for your “logic”, money, and masculinity, then resent that obligation when it doesn’t benefit you. 😂 Pick a side. Be anti-feminist and red-pilled or egalitarian. This back-and-forth narrative is tiring.
Yes and no at the same time as it’s been thousands of years of change or molding to certain things we like it’s hypocritical but right like if they said they hated war but men mostly go to war it’s a wild dilemma same with climate change and it’s our fault and not at the same time because we as individuals didn’t do it but as a group it happened
Preach girl
Yup, exactly. These men are literally creating the demand for these women but then they seethe that these women exists when it’s literally what they ask for since they also love to complain when a women brings more to the table. Though if they had the self awareness to realize this, I guess they wouldn’t be in the redpill rabbit hole to begin with.
True,Based.
@@Channel-23s war is a completely different scenario when that occurred due to men LITERALLY (I'm only capitalizing that word for emphasis, not for sarcasm or anything rude or blunt etc... literally ♥️) being more replaceable than women due to men being able to impregnate and then die from whatever causes whether it's disease, illnesses, age, battling, etc, while a woman would need to take 9 months in order to "replace" said man who passes away. The OP is def spot on though regarding this predetermined concept when it comes to resenting obligation
Destiny is a girl's name.
Destiny is a beta.
Destiny is gay.
And that's fine.
Also open relationship, and its fine
All these things combined = sigma
He’s half men and half women
“Fine” COPIUM
@@pauliePwalnuts horseshoe theory'd his way so far into beta territory he came out the other side into sigma
I love the line most people see that and get mad. If you see someone who isn't attractive dating a hot model and your mad about it you need to get help. Because most people don't care and probably don't even notice it most of the time
When are you going on fresh and fit????
PS. Bring Sneako and Mrgirl. 😂😂😂
Bringing Mr. Girl would be the LAST thing you want to do to WIN an argument.
It's the first thing you want to do to turn an argument into a shit show.
@@ChipnDipz1 Shit show = entertainment
@@ChipnDipz1 Mr girl is too intelligent for people
21:07 he’s talking about survival tactics beings the reason why so many women don’t experience empathy but maybe a lot of them just don’t experience the dating market the same we do
The Kimmel skit was decently funny, I agree. The monologue was horrible though, but that is par for the course with Kimmel (truly never understood why people watch him).
The main thing I think is weird is how people are surprised by how game streaming is a thing. Watching games while not playing it yourself has been a thing since the dawn of time. And a more social version of that is just hooking in some talkshow or radioshow vibes. How could anyone not see that is something like that might be popular?
never got that either. How hard can it be to understand the appeal in watching people perform tests of strategy and reflexes against some of the best in the world when you´d never question the legitimacy of watching a guy kick a ball? Feels like everything you´d bring up to justify the latter you can say about the former. I understand not getting the younger generation sometimes, but here it´s like you´d have to actively try really hard to not make this connection.
not gonna lie i was expecting to get triggered by like the commenters but bursted out laughing at one of the jokes
didnt south park make an entire episode about that months prior to this bit? Also how is watching someone play a game different from watching a sport match.
@@mekullag it's because video games are so accessible. People watch pro sports partly for a team/community reason but also because they are watching things they are physically incapable of doing themselves, and which aren't that easy to participate in.
Like most people cannot come close to doing a serve like a pro tennis player. Not only that, but they probably aren't that close to a tennis court, and don't have anyone to play against if they are. All that stuff takes way more effort to do than turning on a TV with a game of tennis.
Video games on the other hand are mostly designed to be easy enough to pick up and start playing. If you're watching a Fotnite stream then you probably can just play Fotnite yourself immediately at home.
And that's just for competitive games, where you can say it's like sports and you just like to follow top players or see the best people at it. But a huge amount of streaming isn't even that, it's people playing single player games by themselves, or playing multilayer but not that well or competitively. If you compare that to traditional sports, it would be like broadcasting a guy just throwing a baseball with a stranger in his garden, which would probably be equally bemusing to boomers. L
@@krombopulos_michael Thank you for taking the time to make a few counterpoints. It at least helps me understand why people who haven´t really thought about the issue might think the way they do.
But I still don´t think it makes sense. At least once someone actually thinks about it, they should be able to see all the parallels to watching sport on the TV and even many advantages that watching a stream has.
F.e.: the community thing to me is far more pronounced on streaming platforms, as the chat function supplies anything from real conversations between small groups to the feeling of being part of a huge crowd screaming and cheering in a stadium (of course it less than that, but my point is there are big communities that you can really feel a part of). Same goes for the team thing, most big video game streamers are members of pro teams, but the difference is I´ll never be able to interact with Christiano Ronaldo by shouting my opinion from the sidelines while he´s training. Even if I spent a few bucks on a beer just prior.
The connection between streamers and watchers is so much more intense than between football fans and athletes that parasocial interactions are incredibly common. If that´s a good thing or not is a different question, but it certainly explains why people might actually be far more engaged watching a Fortnite stream than a football match: It´s not like watching a random guy throw a ball in his backyard, it´s like meeting your friends.
The big streamers who are not particularly good are all entertainers, a better comparison to why people watch them might be listening to radio personalities. They might just be especially funny or smart or both and discuss things you care about (in this case your favorite games).
Playing a game yourself also comes with a greater amount of stress, time commitment and attention. Many people who´d watch Markiplier play 1000 indie horror games wouldn´t touch one themselves because they wouldn´t be able to enjoy it. With any online game you have to be prepared to encounter griefing and bullying, enemies taunting you and allies blaming you for a loss. Not everyone wants to deal with that. You can also leave a stream at any moment, but not your online game in which maybe a bunch of team members are doomed to lose if you did. You can watch someone play League while you´re on the toilet, cooking, cleaning, doing your homework, but you couldn´t play yourself. In short I really think there are tons of reasons why people might not be able or want to just play a game themselves.
I think my problem with discussions around substances is that everyone has a unique relationship with them. And everyone has a different definition of what addiction is.
For some people smoking weed provides numerous therapeutic benefits that is a net positive improvement in their well-being, functioning, etc.
But there are also other people who find weed has the inverse effect-- and becomes problematic in that the negatives begin to outweigh the positives, whether due to unsustainable habits or because it never really provided much more to the person than recreation.
So you end up with 2 groups. One group swears by weed, says it does so many amazing things for them, and then there's group two who says weed is just addictive and causes harm. The two groups had two fundamentally different experiences with the drug so it's really hard to reconcile the two. I think its important to not discount anyone's experience with marijuana, we shouldnt hand wave it away as a vice or addiction, or to do the same by saying it's harmless and you're just overreacting if you have a hard time with it. Both experiences are completely valid and real.
Everybody's body and brain chemistry is super different, so the way certain substances like marijuana interact with us is going to be generally different for some groups of folkw to the next. This is why for one person marijuana makes them more productive, creative, happier, more calm and focused, and for someone else it turns them into an anxious or depressed mess, or someone with zero motivation to do anything, or makes them fixate on things that ultimately take away their ability to be productive or interact with others meaningfully.
I think we tend to go to either extreme too often when we discuss substances. It's either this miracle drug that cures everything and its all overblown, or it's this thing that destroys your life and turns you into a loser.
I dislike either extreme. I don't think we should ban or massively restrict access to recreational drugs like marijuana, but I also think we should be careful about how we provide access to these things and how we market them, or talk about them. You should never tell someone "you NEED to use marijuana it'll improve your life so much, it will do this and this and this", it should be "You should look into marijuana and do your research before trying it, just be mindful that its not for everyone and that you should be aware of the risk of dependency and other negative effects it might have, its not a miracle drug."
We should be more measured in the way we present things like that. I think that's where we're running into issues... we're sometimes pressuring people into using marijuana and trying to convince them its so amazing and we gas it up so much that we have too many people that it doesn't really benefit who are using it, when id prefer that people make a very informed and conscious decision to use it. And I'd like it if we provided more education on how to *responsibly* use marijuana.
Mane I ain’t reading all that, I’m happy for you, or sad for you
@@ProfessorProstate I get it I used to be 12 years old too
I really like your take! I definitely agree that Marijuana affects different people well differently! I use Marijuana and I can go days without it. I usually use it on nights where I have a hard time sleeping! But my friend however usually goes into financial debt in order to get it. And they always seem unable to function without it. We are the two sides of the extreme! But I think that's why destiny talked about how different personality traits may determine how addicted we are to said drug!
"hahaha yeah fellow guys arent women so stupid" *airhorn blares*
Using their own logic. They want as much power as they can possibly get, but also power corrupts people. They're unknowingly telling you that they wanna be as corrupt as possible and not to trust them
Destiny just confirmed my fears. I’m eternally fucked. Single at 26 and never been in a relationship….
Fuck Destiny, he doesn't hold the eternal truth. He's just a guy with a certain perspective, that's it. Prove him wrong, be the exception.
DOn't make the mistake of letting some online personality tell you about your own life and where its heading.
@@666PlagueBlack your illiteracy is showing. Nothing in what I said equals entitlement. If you can find it, please point it out.
5:35 homie says" doing meth every now and then " Bro meth is literally the most addictive drug on the planet the fuk r u talking about smh
Legitimately hyped to see how destiny performs on their show. I wonder if it’ll equal the Jontron era of potentially alt right ppl being taken out of that pipeline. If nothing else this’ll be solid content for all of breadtube for a solid month.
Idk the thing is the red pill community thinks destiny a cuck so some people will just completely side step whatever he says. If joe rogan said these things people prolly swit h
Fuck breadtube
I was one of those fools saying weed is not addicting while also spending like 100 dollars a week for weed! I’ve been two months sober now god bless. Tbh I would probably go back to smoking but now being aware that I don’t want to fuck myself up.
41:30, it's a really hard pill to swallow. I'm 26 and been out of a relationship for years now, I just haven't had the time, energy, or interest to get back into the whole dating thing, but now as time goes on it seems less and less appealing, especially now knowing Destiny's take. So now this part of life that I /should/ have invested in, but neglected, just becomes steeper and steeper to sort out, day by day, and it's now just a bigger impending doom, because yeah I'd love to get into a lifelong relationship but now I'm left with a worse dating pool than if I just went full send in my late teens/early 20's. And with all the other stuff I'm trying to deal with in my life, it's just ANOTHER hassle. And I'm not so keen for online dating/apps, but I totally get that that's pretty much the best chance of success I have in this day and age. It all feels so hopeless so I again drop out of the whole dating fiasco, and yeah I'm just shooting myself in the foot
I don't think dating apps have actually taken over as the #1 way people meet their partners. It's still "through friends" afaik. I don't think dating apps are your best chance. They're like 70/30 men/women and they make their money from desperate dudes paying for extra features, not from actually matching people up.
Working on joining a larger interconnected social network with lots of like-minded people is the way.
I met my fiance when we were both 30 and had just broken up with our SOs. I met him when I moved back to town and started looking up old friends from high school and reconnecting.
Alex Jones promoted that Joe Rogan N-word compilation because Joe said Alex was wrong about something lmao people forget that Alex dedicated a whole episode of his show to calling joe the devil and saying jesus sent alex to destroy rogan
The sad thing is, grown men actually think this is the move 🤦🏾♂️
The Sneako arc is so entertaining
I feel like modern day men who are emotionally weak are coasting on the legacy of our ancestors who practiced stoicism and actually WERE less emotional than women (because of social conditioning and practice at it).
I love how at around the 1:47:00 mark, Fresh is going on his racial profiling rant saying that despite it being unfair, he “doesn’t give a fuck” and he “adapts”. Then Sneako goes on about complacency (bad) vs ambition (good), completely forgetting that Fresh just made the most complacent rant possible seconds earlier.
Nope.
It is admiting that field is muddy and yes there is a lot of stones. So you can either stand there like a bitch and cry that you cannot play or man up and play anyway.
Fresh and fit have no relationship experience explaining to sneako who has no life experience.
at around minute 17 a really funny point was made about women not being able to understand men's struggles like not being able to fucks bitchs. Well allot of men are gonna ignore female problems like having to be afraid when going out at night because someone might sexually assault them and that is coming from a man. I think us men to an extent have it much easier in that regard.
The rage the RP grifters get at female grifters just shows its about the money and not a "movement"
I think the reason for clingy being a strongest turn-off is that it's a magnifier for all other problems that a person may have. E.g. if a person is an asshole or super manipulative, as long as they are not clingy, you can just slip away from them easily as/when needed. But let's say you meet a person and they're absolutely perfect but clingy: now you're in a position where you have to bet that you instantly after meeting know everything about them, because otherwise any unknown but negative thing will be only magnified by clinginess. Any other negative you can usually temporarily tolerate as you figure out if there's other negatives.
As an avid weed smoker it is addictive. It becomes a mental crutch. But if you've got to be addicted to something it's by far not the worst.
@knockout cigs are also way more physically addictive and cancerous so way worse.
I think it’s performative to a degree. Sneako’s copying the Andrew Tate formula to make easy $$$ on streams. There’s a huge market of young men who want to hear stuff like this, sure Sneako might believe a fair bit of it, but the cookie cutter regurgitation of all these red pill talking points is just to hit the right notes for all the 12 year olds tuning in.
Sneako is the sign that I'm too old for the internet. I don't have the patience to hope he stops having dipshit takes.
Looks like it's back to podcasts and audiobooks for me, because this is a waste of my attention.
right like if you’re gonna be loudly stupid, at least be stupid in a way I haven’t heard before instead of regurgitating middle school level gender war takes lol these dudes are just painfully predictable
These Red Pill interactions are very important. I’m glad you finally get a chance to combat them and absorb their viewers. Continue to engage critically and give points where valid arguments are made, but just add depth. Great Job Steven!!
I also had switch from an Atheist into something this year too. I understand how it’s effecting your worldview and arguments. It’s noticable in the last few weeks.
I'm 28 and haven't been in a long term relationship since high school. Legit worried I'm not gonna find someone. People act like it's easier if you're a girl but getting a DATE isn't the same as getting a relationship. I don't think anything's "wrong" with me, I'm not looking for 6ft5 millionaires or anything, but I also can't figure out why nothing's "clicked" with any of the guys I've talked to. :/
The addiction part with personality is defenitely true.. me and all my friends have that problem
we quit for months knowing that it feels better being sober YET we cme back to the addiction every time
i had quit for a few months but im hooked again and i know i can never truly quit
i do less drugs now i barely smoke weed but i still do stimulants
sometimes alot sometimes not at all but its still there
Moderation is all things a skill. Going cold turkey can just cause a yoyo
41:55 This notion left out another sect of people entirely: the people that have been single and have had LTR's, but have figured they enjoy being single more. I've had some great LTR's (also some rough times of course) but as I got closer to 30, I realized how much I enjoy a lot of the perks of being single. No obligations, more money, freedom to get up and explore the world when I want to, and I find casual dating to be adventurous and fun in a way because I enjoy meeting new people regularly.
Are you a woman by chance?
I think the issue with weed is that probably the reason people feel miserable without it is because that is their normal state. Their life was miserable to start with, and they didn't know it until they had some cannabis. It's like pain. If you take a drug to reduce pain, you go off it, and start to feel pain that doesn't mean the drug caused the pain. The pain was first. Of course some drugs can be addictive, but we have to be careful about confusing a problem with the solution.
When you're in your 30's you need to be a "talent scout" for 20 year old women on what kind of person they're going to grow up to be... yikes.
If self improvement is not the answer what is? You said you were married before the streaming. All I want is one girlfriend but it’s almost impossible unless of course I tell woman I have followers.
52:46 Just one thing real quick: many people find it unattractive when women are really assertive and 'confident' in social settings like in the way you had just described before this. It's not always a matter of 'feeling intimidated'. That's a really annoying mistake feminists make far too often and it's a very underhanded and cowardly way of insulting men. Men can find something annoying, or unattractive when a woman does a certain thing without anything deeper playing a role in it. Some people like it and other people don't. Why can't we just leave it at that? A simple personal preference.
I think it's related to levels of insecurity. Insecure men find confident women unattractive because being less confident than a woman triggers that insecurity of being less masculine or a bad leader. Insecure women love confident men because it's socially acceptable for women to follow and not lead. Confident people of both genders don't mind being leaders to insecure people, but confident, competent people *love* other confident, competent people regardless of gender. Being in a room of confident, competent people is amazingly fun, the social order is stable, and everyone's needs get met because confident people advocate for themselves and others.
I've never met a confident, competent person who disliked other confident, competent people. It's only insecure people who avoid them.
@@jameverywhere That's a very generalizing opinion, I think. You are talking about people as if there's no difference between men and women, even though there clearly is. Especially when you're talking about the social and sexual relationships between the two. Generally speaking, women are way more frequently (and more severely) attracted to men who are confident and try to lead. That has nothing to do with the girl being insecure or confident, herself. So it only makes sense that men like it when girls let them lead instead of taking a leadership position herself. We've known this for thousands of years. It's simple biologically driven attraction.
So yes, there are of course situations where the person is insecure and weak, which will drive his opinion of other people's behavior. But I wasn't talking about these specific situations. Instead, I was talking about mentally and emotionally healthy and developed people.
@@darkaquatus yep my post generalizes a lot, but so does yours.
there's plenty of differences between men and women, and I said in my post that insecure women like confident men even tho' insecure men don't like confident women.
But I honestly believe that confident and competent people like each other because there's nothing to be afraid of. You can have two confident, competent people together with one leader and one follower. Confidence doesn't mean you are the leader, it means you know where your skills are, can lead if needed, and know how to take care of yourself or advocate for yourself. Two competent people will work as a team and cede leadership to each other when it makes sense.
I don't think men are naturally leaders and women followers overall. I think women naturally rule the household and small social groups, and men lead in the world at large or in outer circles. That's been my experience with my family. Confident, competent women run the home, raise good children, and make important family decisions in her wheelhouse, and confident, competent men are the family's liaison with the outside world, provide for and raise good children, and make important family decisions in his wheelhouse.
@jameverywhere No offense, but I believe that my original message still stands strong. I am talking about the majority of people. There's a lot more to be said about this subject, which is perfectly fine. But your response made it seem like there was something wrong with what I said, even though you might not have meant it like that. There are a lot of things you can say that will add to my message, but I don't think there's anything you can subtract from it, since I don't think I said anything that's untrue.
Perhaps I mistook your message, that's perfectly possible. It felt like you are trying to argue with me even though you might just want to explore the topic I brought up, I dunno.
@@darkaquatus i think personal preferences are driven by deeper things sometimes, so I'm exploring what's behind the preferences.
Altho' to make progress in this discussion we'd have to both define what we mean by "confident".
34:34 calling it... New Destiny arc is going to lead to a lot more quality conversations with more interesting people.
clingyness is unattractive to EVERYONE men women.. even in friendship, workplace lol
Yeah like literally just imagine someone being clingy towards you and you'll understand. Like even if it's someone you otherwise thought was cool or attractive, or even someone you already know and like, it's just going to weird you out
I am 100% convinced Sneako cannot make any arguments without saying the same 3 things
“With men, your word is your bond” BULL FUCKING SHIT. I have so many flaky ass, lying, weaselly fucking dudes in my life. It’s a man or woman thing, most people are just spineless, that’s just kind of the way it is. Sticking to your principles and your word is hard, it’s inconvenient, and given the opportunity, most people will flake on it as easily as they breathe.
Fresh and Fit announced that Destiny and Sneako will be in studio this Friday. And Destiny is doing a late night show with girls. This will very interesting
The “peak performance” joke with the picture had me fucking crying bro I love this channel
That first line almost made me burst out laughing, based take by destiny
Weed is addictive the way cheeseburgers are addictive not the way heroin is addictive.
it's almost funny how much these guys are projecting. Especially with the whole "women stick to their type and assume all other guys are the same way as their type" meanwhile they assume all women care about zodiac signs I guess?
19:00:00 Kevin Samuels says opposite. It's harder for a girl with a child to find a high value man. Woman choose who they sleep with, guys choose who to marry.
fresh and fit are weak guys idk how they fooled so many people
It’s getting worse and worse
Because guys need a place to go for their issues, and unfortunately...this is where they go. Very sad.
@@helenline1790 Yep you don't go talk about your issues to women you go to other men first get their advice then maybe go to women thats how it should be men need to bite the bullet and self improve and get out of their feelings
I don’t know if I’d use the word “invade,” but women have absolutely entered almost every traditionally male space and irrevocably changed the entire atmosphere.
i had no idea redpill was still so used. I thought it had become sorta a cringe meme
I’m sorry but the “conventions are specifically for men” got me. That’s actually hilarious. What the fuck kind of logic is that 🤣
Literally, if you want a girlfriend in destinies situation, treat her like a bratty little sister. It works!!!
Light teasing does work
@@idontwantachannelname biologi
@@idontwantachannelname tbh I was a quote from repill coach Corey Wayne. Just thought it was fitting.
I am actually so excited to see destiny talk to these guys. LOL I think it’s going to be super interesting!!
As an experienced Woman, all Ill say is intelligence and humor is always the most important thing when it comes to who I would choose to date. Hot guys are good for fun times but when it comes to relationships I need brains and wit.
As a hot guy, I would never want to be in a relationship with a woman who doesn’t find me hot but only wants me cause I make her laugh. Fuck that. Do you realize how condescending you sound ?
Stop the cap. You are a slightly obese actuarial clerk named Theodore, who refuses to go by Ted, from Boise, Idaho. You can lie your friends but you can't lie to me Theodore.
Destiny also speaks as an experienced women
lol so let the alphas have their fun and settle for a funny nerd once the chads had their fun
And this comment is exactly why those guys put their heads together to articulate what they call "redpill".
This exact comment translates to "Hot guys are good for partying and fucking, but "inlligent" guys with good senses of "humor" like to cuddle with and are good with kids.
One is a teddy bear and the other one is a sexual outlet on call. This is why the same redpill space uses pejoratives like "beta cuck", she ends up loving her significant other like family while her sexual fantasies cannot be about guys like her "sweet" and loving partner. The guys in the fantasy are nothing like him
I just can’t believe that they talked for 2 hours that they don’t punch down women they just try to “help men” but don’t offer any concrete advice on their podcasts other then buy my course
As a heavy cannabis user that uses to quell pain, it definitely can be addictive, even if it's just a psychological addiction, and not physical.
I struggle to go more than 2 days without it.
I've had a major spinal fusion due to scoliosis and kyphosis, base of my neck to a few inches above my hips. Eating becomes impossible, as my dysphagia (difficulty swallowing) flares up when I don't smoke. I can't sleep because the muscle spasms in my back start up, putting me in debilitating pain, and when I'm in pain, I'm just an angry person, prone to snapping at people.
Again, cannabis definitely can be addictive. I wish I could stop using it, but it's either cannabis or opiates, and, I'd rather not go that route...
"You are creating the type of thing you're attacking in the next sentence" = Redpill talk about women in a nutshell