I got word from the like button that unless Mr. Ballen makes merch, it will retaliate and fight back! We don’t want that. P.S. Everyone wants it so might as well!
First thing I would have done if I were a cop at that meeting would have been to stake out that house. Perps love to attend meetings that are about them.
@@danaernst922 Yeah, a cop that had been by my home many times which was on main St, across the street from a high school, 2 blocks from the police station, and a modeling school for the hottest babes in the county. This was in the 70's when he was most active, and it brings chills to the spine knowing that guy was right there the whole time.
As a Columbine survivor and a freshman to boot and someone who was in the cafeteria eating lunch with her friends, it gets me every time I see that picture and that I was 15ft from that bomb that didn't go off. I thank God everyday it was a dud. I wouldnt be here if it did! Thank you for telling such interesting stories.
Glad you got to continue living your life. Very sad the lives that were lost and everyone else that was wounded and traumatized. I remember on a doc your principal I l believe mentioned how it was a blessing those bombs didn't go off or a lot more would have died.
Wow...I can't even imagine the fear and what you were thinking, and how you felt when this was happening and afterwards! I'm glad you made it out alive and RIP to the people that didn't! 😢♥️🙏
“I like you, Go home.” This is such a terrifying statement. It shows that the shooter knew that what he was doing was wrong. He knew it was wrong enough that he spared his friend. That is the definition of horrifying.
They also spared at least one more when they were shooting. There was a boy hiding under a table when they came into the library and he asked either one of the shooters, I don't remember who, "Hey, what are you doing?" and he replied "Ah just killing people" then the boy says something like "are you gonna kill me?" and he looks at him and either walks away or says "nah I like you" or something and then walked away and kept shooting. Something like that, it's been awhile since I watched the documentary.
Honestly I would be even more scared of someone who believes what they’re doing is good. Like a crazy killer who thinks killing people is saving them from the harsh reality of life. Or believes that killing will benefit society in some way. Like that Dylan roof guy. Watch his interview. Dude is clearly not very bright and describes how he didn’t want to do what he did, but was so brainwashed by internet propaganda that he truly believed shooting up a black church would help save the white race from extinction.
I love it when parents use “they were just hanging out with the wrong crowd” I mean, if your kid is hanging out with the wrong crowd, then your kid is the wrong crowd, you can’t always just blame other people’s kids 😂
Exactly. Let it be someone else kid and they’ll scream bloody murder but soon as it’s their kid now they wanna show some compassion. I hate that killers get to plead mental health issues to avoid jail. What if the victim had mental health issues but was murdered. If they’re that crazy they shouldn’t know the difference. That’s a privilege no murderer should be allowed.
Usually when people use the phrase “they were just hanging with the wrong crowd”, the person they’re referring to is deceased. And being compassionate, most people don’t want to speak Ill of the dead. It’s not always parents trying to blame other kids, it’s parents attempting to put some perspective on the tragedy that took place.
The second story with the kid Tyler who killed his parents before throwing a party is pretty surreal to me. He went to Port Saint Lucie high school in Florida the same years my sister did. She didn’t know him close but had seen him in school and remembers people going to said party. I later went to the same school and either nobody knew or didn’t want to talk about it. It’s just crazy to hear a story that was so close to home.
He went to centennial I had classes with them freshman and sophomore year me and my cousin were very close with him and he even invited us to the party luckily I was in Maryland at the time
@@chancezimmerman5321 which one was tyler in the picture Mr.Ballen posted, I'm guessing the one with the arrow pointed towards him...lol but lmk which one is he?
The golden state killer was actually found from a genealogy website where people voluntarily submit their DNA. Once police had narrowed it down to Deangelo they staked out at his home and waited for him to throw something out that they could collect DNA from to confirm. Pretty cool
i remember there was a big uproar about “how could they do that” and “ that’s not right” blah blah. and the whole time i’m thinking shit, if my ancestry dna sample can help you find a serial killer, hell yes you can look at it 🧐 and the only reason they still had a sample to test with was because of the specific coroner they used... he always made sets of 2 kits from a scene, just in case. and he still had a viable sample decades later. hooray for being over prepared 🙌🏻
Uuuummmmm what’s that got to do with anything? What did BTK do for work? The green river killer? Ted bundy? What they do isn’t who they are or their identity.
@@kylieknight2365 you sound defensive. It’s interesting BECAUSE the police are who catch criminals. He had the inside scoop and more resources to cover up his tracks or target people, which is probably a key to his not getting caught for so long. Make sense? Not because “police are bad.”
Being a survivor of a serial rapist, this story cuts deep. When the Golden State murderer was identified, it prompted me to contact authorities in another state to see if there was any resolve in my case since 1992. I found out that he murdered the next woman and is in prison with no chance of parole.
I was kidnapped and raped whenI was 17. Afterwards they let me go. I had read they're less likely to kill you if you 'befriend' them, so I talked the whole way through it. They even told me I ought to break up with my boyfriend because he didn't even make one move to try and protect me. Anyway I was just glad it was over. I reported it, but then left southern CA and never moved back, so I never found out if those guys were caught or anything. They said I wasn't the first or last.
@@Lydianon I urge you to contact the authorities where it happened. That’s how I found closure. It doesn’t matter how long it’s been. You deserve it. I was also kidnapped, and he had the actual nerve to drop me off where he picked me up. I worked at the neighborhood convenience store and saw him every day. I thought it was safe to get a ride to the payphone … it wasn’t.
My grandmother was in the Columbine highschool shooting she was an art teacher there and after the shooting she made a huge art project to cover up some of the bullet holes in the walls
These videos are good and listening to them on the road is amazing and seems cool and when someone trys to brake in and sees your watching scary videos and there like "uh goodbye."
Awesome! Just as long as you are only listening to the stories and not trying to spot "the secret". I never do see those! Even after it's pointed out I usually can't see it. Too miniscule for my cheap Chromebook screen.
I'm 40 y/o. The Columbine school shooting happened when I was a senior in high school, and I have heard this stories numerous times, along with seeing lots of video footage. I must say, Mr Ballen, you have a knack for storytelling! I love how you pick someone's point of view in the story that is otherwise pretty insignificant. It's very engaging! I can easily picture your stories in my head as you tell them. I watch your stuff almost every day! Wish you and yours the best!
Yeah...I was a few grades younger and that shit shook me up. I was several states away...but it impacted us. Now it just seems like it's the norm, but back then, all the doors were left open...you could sneak in or out of the school. We weren't on lock-down, didn't have camera's all over. And then everything changed overnight.
@@MrBallen you'd make a good story teller of strange but true stories and get a special on amazon prime like dave pollidus or on Netflix good luck to u and your family be so happy for u when your new baby is here
I hope he does not go that way. Pretty much everyone who has jumped into that corporate media world has been burned for it. I suspect that if he did go into a television or netflix show, it would burn him out and the content would be worse for it. Perhaps the production values woudl go p, but I fear his zeal and excitement and passion would start going down. And that zeal and passion and excitement is why he i so good at this, in addendum to his hard work (motivated by his excitement for it, rather than a paycheck). So while i agree that Mr Ballen would excel and succeed on television or netflix or some other kind of corporate media, that it was corporate media would start to ruin him for it, and I'd rather he stayed independent, free, and happy.
I was in 7th grade when that shooting happened. We were all sent home that day and I just remembered watching the news and I couldn't hold back my tears. Every year since then I always say a prayer for the families of all the victims.
That’s what I was thinking! If he didn’t weirdly tell his friend any kid could have stumbled in, heck even by accident if they were looking for the bathroom. So bizarre.
I'm sure they might have. But when the door didn't open fully they probably went "meh" and walked off. Even if they saw a leg, if they were wasted they probably thought "oh some poor asshole already went and passed out in here" or something. And even THEN... You'd be surprised what people might keep to themselves. I know if I were at a part like that, drunk off my ass, and someone was like "Man I tried to go upstairs and look around, but someone passed out in the bedroom or something I can't get the door open" I'd probably get anxious over what the right thing was to do. Even though outside of the situation the obvious answer is "call emergency services"... A teenager drunk at this massive party, especially one where the kid throwing it keeps reminding ppl police could be called which would get us in TROUBLE... Idk man.
the story about Erick and Dylan telling someone to go home reminds me of the time I was working OT in the office one night. There was a guy who always kept to himself, etc. and was near retirement age. They had tried to force him out, even had a retirement party for him and gave him gifts. But he went to HR and didn't leave. He was there the following Monday. Nothing we could do about it. He was constantly sleeping, snoring at his desk, etc. A few weeks later I was working OT, which was unusual. The lights would get turned off automatically in the building, so after 6p I'd have to make sure the lights in my office were on. All of a sudden he walked in my office and said excuse me, Ms. MJ, you need to leave. NOW. I said ok, grabbed my purse and left. I think it was the first time I'd EVER heard him speak. I would always say hi to him, would bring him brownies, etc. from home so I guess he liked me. I walked down to the Director's office who was still there, and told him what happened. He said lets get the hell out of here. We left and let security know what happened. It was creepy as hell. They checked the building, nothing was amiss, but they decided he was no longer allowed on the premises and he never showed up again. I have no idea what happened to him, but a a few months later I went into my office and someone had drawn a smiley face on my notebook I kept next to my computer, and under it was written 'thank you for treating me like a human.' I showed it to the Director and he said yup.....that's his writing. He somehow managed to keep a card key to the building. So they had to inspect the building again, and change all access.
It's always crazy hearing about Columbine high school and then getting up and looking out your apartment window just to see Columbine high school. Literally 200 yards from me
I got a trespassing charge for taking a picture of the school when I lived in Colorado. I had to drive to Jeffco court three times from the Springs in terrible whether. All for taking a perfectly legal picture.
@@daveaf5281 My dad works in Parkland Florida and we often pass by the school that was shot up by Nik Cruz. Nobody would notice if I took a picture. Or probably fine me if I did. Sucks what happened to you.
I was a senior in hs when that happened. We had some crazy stuff happen that year, including suicides from jumping off buildings (one I witnessed) and someone held a teacher hostage with a shotgun, but Columbine just made us on edge. Still gives me the heebie jeebies
@@edgarretana8377 The guy he hired for the hit was a cop?? Life might be worse for him than the death penalty. The other inmates wouldn't like him much haha
I thought it was gonna be a trap, but once the boaster turned up dead, the cops should have known that the people at that meeting were their suspect list.
Tyler's friend Michael handled an unimaginable situation as well as anyone could. How hard it must have been, but he did the right thing. He is really a remarkable young man. How tragic that he had to experience what he did, including just the loss of his lifelong friend, and for such a reason as that.
@@untze0 I wasn't paying attention to the beginning of this story and missed the year and place, but as soon as he mentioned the name Eric I was 99% sure it was Columbine. I was a junior in high school when this happened and I remember watching the news coverage live on TV.
Mr Ballen is everything.I’m like super addicted…If he ever gets grandchildren,they’d be the luckiest because their grandpa would know exactly how to deliver a splendid story
D'Angelo wasn't proving a point you cant touch me...by changing his MO. He was changing his M.O because even after killing the loud mouth dude and his wife, he was deeply hurt, and took what that guy said to heart, that killing poor defensiveness woman alone was embarrassing and so....started killing married couples because not only was it more challenging and sick it made him feel better as a man...
On the third story, I knew the second he said the guy told his classmate "I like you now, go home" that it was the story of Columbine...such a sad and scary story.
We had a kid in our grade who was constantly bullied by everyone else. But, he seemed emotionally unstable and it appeared that his home life wasn't that great either (I never knew him well enough to know for sure, I was making an assumption). I never made fun of him, didn't laugh when others were being mean, and I tried to always be nice to him because 1 I try my best to just be a decent person and 2 I didn't want to die if he snapped and brought a gun to school....I hope life got better for him.
Murderer: "Awww, he's my friend... he won't tell" Friend: "Hmmm.... I'm the only living witness to a murder, and the murderer will soon realize this" ...."hello, police?"
Imagine how physically braindead you have to be to have a massive house party in a house where you keep your dead parents, with only one door standing between the party guests and the evidence.
@@mulattens 100% agree. I think he knew, once he told his friend, that he was essentially turning himself in - whether the friend ratted him out or not. The very fact that he was telling someone in the first place meant that he didn't care if the news got out, and the complete disregard for hiding the evidence beyond one shut door likewise shows a total lack of concern for being caught. I suspect that it was originally planned to be a proud middle finger to his parents, essentially a celebration of their death(plus some cheekiness at throwing this huge party with no one suspecting what he'd done), but I suspect - based on the way he talked to his friend about it - that after the deed was actually done, the gravity of it all hit him. I think he stopped caring much what happened to him after that point, or maybe even welcomed being caught and punished. The way mrballen tells it, it doesn't sound as though he talked about his parents' murders with much bravado. (Though maybe that's just how mrballen is choosing to tell it, and isn't indicative of reality.)
I was in high-school during Columbine. An emergency news broadcast came over the mounted TVs, and being that CO isn’t far from us, shook us all to the core. I remember after that the “trench coat mafia” was made popular, and there were so many threats made to our school and all other schools surrounding. Being that the worst thing to happen before that were fist fights it was huge, sad and scary.
Yes. But what’s more scary is he’s not the only cop who who’s done shit like this. Daniel holtzclaw didn’t kill anyone but he used his position to rape several women. There isn’t enough of background checks or psych evaluations for the people we decide to give guns (both citizens and police)
@@TheStonedEvo I don't know about Holtzclaw, after looking into his case a lot deeper I have my doubts as to wether he is guilty or not. Either way, there was also a border patrol agent more recently who was found to be a serial killer, and there are most certainly more law enforcement personal who are active serial killers who just have not yet been discovered. That really is a scary thought. You could be going about your business driving home from work, get pulled over by one of these guys who happens to be an undiscovered serial killer, become their next victim, and pretty much all they have to do to get away with it is say they thought you had a weapon and disobeyed their command. Yeah, you are dead on about needing to more thoroughly vet those we are hiring into any kind of law enforcement position.
I literally never thought I would be so entertained just watching and listening to someone tell a story, I am completely amazed! Thank you so much for your stories and your channel... Have you done anything new lately? I've been looking but everything I've found is from a year ago
Thank god that the propane bombs didn't go off. They were set by pillars so that the library would collapse on top of the lunchroom while all the kids were at lunch. If they would've it might've been more horrific than it already was. Dave Sanders who was a gym teacher saved so many kids that day and gave his own life for them. I just graduated from there and it was the most amazing high school I've ever been to.
Dylan's mother actually did a TED talk on what it is like to be the parent of one of the columbine shooters. I watched it years ago. It's interesting and sad. I felt so sorry for her.
I wouldn't....she raised an asshole who killed people for believing in God. He wasn't even bullied all that much and certainly not a friendless outsider. They didn't just shoot the preps, they shot the nerds, the normies as well. In fact looking at who they shot they mostly failed at who you would think they would have been going after. No she like every parent of serial killers and so on had a hand in what made him.
I watched it too a couple of years ago, I felt very sad for her because she was pretty much hated in the town after what her son did but this woman not only lost her son but she was also the mother of the boy who killed dozens of people so I can't even imagine how it must've been for her and how it still is for her to never escape the nightmare of what her son did! When the funerals were held for both the students they killed and themselves no one showed up to those funerals so the family was basically alone grieving their sons. Not that I don't understand! I do for sure! I just feel bad for what she had to go through
@@darthbigred22 clearly mental health was involved in this case! You cannot blame the mother do you blame Ted Bundy's mother do you blame Zodiac killer's mother most likely not
@@Faiiltrain but not all of them did again when your a grown ass adult you make your own choices .. I was abused my hole I was even taken by cps that doesn't mean I get to kill people
He have just the cliff notes version. He started out as the ransacker. Became known as the Easy Area Rapist (raped 50 women that we know of) then became known as The Original Night Stalker. He was later named The Golden State Killer in the 2010s. And if you listen to the more full details of the case it’s even more disturbing.
@@zxtudio No, he's right... 6/12 months is half a year a.k.a. 0.5 After 6 months, half of the year has gone by. Imagine trying to correct someone who's right lmao
Quick note; This horrible man we now know as “The Golden State Killer” was not known by that nickname until 2013 when Michelle McNamara coined it and began her book “I’ll Be Gone In The Dark.” He was known in one part of CA as “The Original Night Stalker” and in another park as “The East Area Rapist.” He kept moving into different police jurisdictions that, at the time, didn’t communicate. The nicknames being different didn’t help, and there was another murderer already referred to as “The Night Stalker.” When this nickname was given and adopted, it was seen as a better descriptor and as more and more departments began compiling and sharing details, they realized how prolific he actually was. It is true that the GSK did target the man that made fun of him in the community meeting. He was also a police officer for many years. “I’ll Be Gone in the Dark” is worth the read. If you have HBO they also did a miniseries about it under the same name. This was also the first case that was solved by “familial” DNA - meaning the DNA of a family member via an ancestry website is how they ended up catching him.
Yes, you said what I was going to say. “I’ll be Gone in the Dark” is a fantastic book, and I’m sorry it’s author didn’t get to see how her own contributions to investigating the killer did finally help capture him. And it is important to note that Ms. McNamara is the one who actually connected the crimes and helped investigators figure out they were all being perpetrated by a single man she dubbed “The Golden State Killer.”
To be fair, the man wasn’t taunting deangelo, but the men who’s wives were attacked while they were home. He couldn’t believe that a man would allow that to happen to his wife and made fun of their manhood for it. He wasn’t targeted for his statement. He wasn’t attacked until months later and just happened to live in a favorite hunting area for EAR. The pictures have been looked over and over and over and deangelo was not there that night.
Lol right? Let’s antagonize the man who police haven’t identified, and has been clever enough to evade the public. Just goes to show that you never know whose watching.
Honestly though if I were at the meeting I’d of probably anticipated that the killer would be too. That’s just common sense. He should of been watching his ass after making those claims, I would’ve been lol. It’s horrible the killer murdered him and his wife. But that guy was really, really dumb to paint a target on himself, and his family.
And he was a cop himself, too. And still a coward because he always took them by surprise with a weapon and even deloaded any weapons in the house while they were gone.
One day the like button is gonna get fed up with all the abuse and get revenge on Ballen. Then the horrific details will be told, in story format, on the like button's TH-cam channel.
I remember reading this comment of a person that said they ended up watching a lot of MrBallen quickly. I just shrugged it off. I was just starting to watch his videos. Pretty good, but it didn’t take much of my time. After a while, I noticed that there were so many videos of his that pulled me in. He is such a good story teller, and he brings such good stories that you just can’t not watch him. I ended up spending a lot of hours watching him. I even try to kind of pinpoint which videos are the most that grab my attention the most to not spend too much time watching him. He’s too good, man. Keep up the good work. I can’t believe how easily you can make people watch you so much.
My mom was pregnant with me and had a clinic check up the day of the Columbine shooting and distinctively remembers as the wounded students were being rolled down the hallway passed her into the ER while she waited in the waiting room. Heartbreaking.
I have never heard/seen the picture of the Columbine school massacre students before. That sh¡t is crazy, sick & twisted and very very sad. Just wish the meaningless killings would stop.
They’re not “meaningless killings”. Kids need to be taught not to absolutely torment other kids beyond belief & cause them to break, & then get upset when they’ve reached their breaking point. Proper discipline against bullying needs to take place, & the school shootings would come to an end. Raise your kids better.
@Keegan Kokko Maybe this applies in their case, but it doesn't make my point any less relevant in these kinds of scenarios. My point stands against people who are *severely* bullied, poked & prodded at in high school, & the torment that ensues from that course. Just because these guys happened to seem shitty, that doesn't immediately devalue & disprove the significance of the sheer torment being incessantly pushed & broken can eventually build into. It's not always just the one who brings the gun to school that's the "monster" or the "psychopath". People need to give a shit about others before they end up getting way passed their breaking point.
I live in Colorado and we always had tons of assembly's to try and prevent this type of thing from happening again. I've actually met a few parents who will come to the assemblys who kids were killed that day to talk about it. Definitely heartbreaking.
@@NicciZelda they weren't bullied or outcasts. They were assholes and psychopaths. Regardless, lenty of bullied children grow up and get help for their trauma. They don't use it as an excuse to harm others. Either way, it's not even relevant to the little Columbine psychopaths.
It surprised me that you didn't even mention the Golden state killer was a cop. That's how he got away with it so long. He did it while he was on patrol.
Kylie No, you’re thinking of the Son of Sam (David Berkowitz.). BTK was caught because he sent the police a computer disk, and they were able to access the metadata which told them what computer had been used to create the file.
These are my favorite videos to watch!! Me and my friends all talk about what true crime TH-camrs we watch and I say “MR BALLEN!!!!! He’s so awesome! You have to watch his videos Litterly the best out there”
I've seen footage from the school it's truly sickening how terrible and cold these boys were, laughing at people as they shot them several times when they found them trying to hide under desks and hearing them scream and beg for them not to shoot them. It was absolutley one of the most terrible things I've ever seen.
I was living in Aurora when this happened. That night a friend did not show up to work, we were all worried about her. It was later that week found out it was her father that was killed. Those two were evil, they had good families, good lives, yet were incapable of any human emotions. I remember an interview with one of the families, and the parents were so shocked because they had never yelled at their son, never hit him, never punished him. That is when I realized where the problem started.
@Guerilla Gurus Millions have been bullied even worse than they were and did not go out and shoot up a school. Saying bullying caused it is like saying Hitler killed the Jews because a Jewish teacher told him his artwork was horrible.
@Guerilla Gurus No I have no idea what it was like to go to school in the 1990s. I went to school in the 1970s. Being mixed race and in the south tell me how bad bullying was? Because I really have no idea what is like to be daily targeted and beaten. I have no idea what is like to be kicked out of school because they found out my actual racial make up. I have no idea what is like to be the "token". No you are not making sense in a real world. Yes in a perfect world we would all be nice and polite. This is the real world children are always cruel, because they have not learned to filter. Strength is not gained by no resistance it is only gained with struggle. The issues we are facing today with the riots and the political murders are a direct result of a generation "protected" from bullies and disappointments. Those two were evil, they said they were bullied but all evidence indicates they suffered very little bullying. Actual evidence indicates they were often the bullies and targeted some of the most bullied kids at their school. That narrative was quickly shot down by the local press who did a very detailed investigation of both their pasts, and how the police conducted the investigation and what the facts were. I know I lived near there and as I said the teacher shot was a good friends father.
@Guerilla Gurus Hitler was very popular in the Army, won an Iron Cross for bravery. He was also very well liked and popular long before he went into politics. His introduction into the NSDAP was as a mole working for the government to determine the threat they posed. His charisma, popularity and speaking abilities led him to embrace them and then lead them. Hitler had a very strict father, a mother who coddled him and spoiled him. In school he was popular and well liked by the other students. He was unpopular with teachers after his mother died and he became sullen. Before that he was a star pupil. Hitler only ever suffered imagined slights and oppression. Well until the treaty of Versailles then every German became oppressed and suffered.
I have been binge watching MrBallen ever since I discovered him. He is the best storyteller I have come across on the interwebs. Love it! Thank you, MrBallen!
At the time of the last story, I was a delivery driver for a food supply company here in Denver when this happened. I was right at the school at the exact moment it was happening and was held in place in my truck for 4 hours till they cleared me to leave the area..
@@d1user hey partner are you okay I mean are you doing good cuz it kind of seems like you're not if you're making comments like that on some miscellaneous TH-cam short video just for attention I mean are you doing okay I mean maybe you should look into getting a professional to talk to you or something to help you straighten out whatever is going on in your mind that it's causing you to do that just saying hope you get the help you need take care
@@mikemoore8808 howdi partner. Look up the meaning of humour or wat a comment section is for. U need to take ur own advice, ur the one that wrote a long rambling reply, repeating same thing. or maybe u need to get out more or get laid. U done exactly wat ur saying I done, so maybe might even need English lessons
@@No.Th13teen he seems dim, I sisncerely hope that personal growth happens on their part before life comes and kicks them directly in their got damn teeth. Because it will. And I didn’t want to directly reply to that person. So I did to you. Think I’ve seen you comment on other me.b wtuff before(if not mistaken) Have a good one
How I wish that Mr. Ballen would discuss at length these cases, there are so many details to dive into and footage and pictures, etc. He has a great way of storytelling and these are huge stories so it would be so cool to see a 40-50min long video deep diving into these cases.
The father of one of the girls that was killed in the Columbine shooting came to speak at my high school and he said she wrote in a diary saying that she felt like she wasn’t going to have a long life and she was going to die young. Crazy how some people ultimately have that intuition of these really awful things
Thats just poor analysis. Not to be rude, but if we only ever look at the diary of a person who has died young, then it would come across as such. But for all you know one in every 20 kids with a diary could write that even if only 1/100000 die young. Its just statistics. She isnt psychic. There are probably tons of kids who say that and experience nothing. But we dont talk about that because nothing happened
Her name was Rachel(forgot the last name). Her father also spoke to us when I was in Webb City High School, back in 2008. Hearing his and his family's story was horrible. He asked us all to tell our parents we loved them afterwards, and that was the first thing my sister and I did when we got home. No place in the world for evil.
I remember the Columbine tragedy like it was yesterday. So terribly sad that some students feel so lost and hopeless that they resort to such violence. The parents were clearly disconnected from those kids if they spent so much time planning this, allegedly building things in the garage, and they never noticed? Jeez
Except these guys were "popular". Athletic, social and often the bullies, not the victims. Apparently the media doing live coverage had heard the shooters were wearing black coats and drew conclusions (something about black coats = outcasts) but once they started reporting this people ran with it and there have been dozens of mass shootings all inspired by this bit of false reporting. Because Apparently, the story of popular kids shooting up a school just isn't as interesting. But this is just what I've got from a few documentaries about the shooting and the long term effects.
Dylan’s mom did an absolutely shattering TED Talk about her son. She’s spent her whole life since then speaking about mental health and the dangers of depression. It was really difficult to feel compassion for her (easy to blame the parents), but by the end of her talk I was deeply affected by her courage.
This video is showing up as unlisted and I don't see it on your channel page, but i somehow got it recommended to me. I feel like I just got into the secret video viewing club. I still punched the like button in the throat because I saw it stealing an old lady's purse.
So true and only 2 likes before mine whelp. Im guessing many of the non like button pushers are shitty parents themselves and thus didnt do any button smashing as mr johnny b would say
Its crazy because Im 31 and Im learning that even things like Columbine aren't common knowledge to people 25 and under. It really puts it into perspective to what extent we are living through history.
I'm 27 and knew the name and that it was one of MANY school shootings. I never bothered to get into the details because they all start to sound the same. Only real difference with Columbine seems to have been the explosives and meticulous planning.
The fact that it was so blown up in media is the reason for many subsequent attacks, with weak minded impressionable copycats. Media shouldn't have put these guys faces and names out there the way they did.
I'm 21 and I don't know anyone my age who hasn't heard about Columbine... it's still something that's talked about and well known I don't know where you're getting the idea that it's not. Maybe younger kids don't know about it but most people my age certainly do
Eric originally had Brooks at the top of his hit list. Had threatened to kill him in the past. He randomly decided that day to forgive him for some reason. Eric was the true psychopath. He was responsible for most of the deaths. Dylan was mostly just suicidal and deeply depressed. Leaving him impressionable and easily exploited by Eric. Brooks was actually Dylan's very good, childhood friend who was introduced to Eric after Dylan befriended Eric after he moved to their town. This pretty much destroyed Brooks and Dylan's friendship after a very petty altercation between Eric and Brooks over a snowball fight. Just proving even more how messed up that kid was. Brooks' mother even called out Eric for "having everyone else fooled" a while before the shooting.
Yeah they were Psychopaths alright but you got to ask yourself to what is it that made them that psycho? I mean you hate to say it in a way but some of them kids probably brought a little bit of that on themselves and on a lot of innocent people who didn't even know those too but people don't just do what they did for no reason whatsoever or just because they're quote crazy mental illness is rarely 100% of the reason things like this happen
@@mikemoore8808 well there’s the whole “nature v nurture” argument of how a person develops, is it their environment or is it their genetics? And a bit of both, but if someone is a psychopath, they’re mentally ill, and this is something that can go “undetected” (the family/school ignores signs of mental health issues) like hurting animals, doesn’t feel guilt in any capacity, is a pathological liar, and a complete lack of empathy, if the parents ignore these very obvious behaviours, which are a mental illness and therefore genetic, they are then nurturing them, they’re enabling them. By nurturing these behaviours they’ll become emboldened and their behaviours may become more extreme over time, which can ultimately be avoided if they actually watch their kids mental health and seek professional medical care. So it comes down to “is it nature or nurture” and others thinking “can someone be born evil”, when really it’s both nature AND nurture, that they’re genetically predisposed to these behaviours and their families completely ignore the signs and don’t seek help. Hell we all know schools are terrible at actually caring about kids behaviours, so it’s easy to see why a psychopaths tendencies will fester in such a way, which is just fucking devastating if you think about it. The signs were there, but got ignored and were incidentally enabled.
Being a psychopath isn’t a mental illness. It’s something entirely different. Mental illness is either a chemical imbalance, damage, or an uncontrollable condition. Psychopathic is in people from birth and they’re entirely in control of themselves.
@@bongwelll Psychopathy is more complex than that and I disagree completely. However, it's widely debated among psychologists also so it's not surprising for you to think that. I just don't agree.
Thank you so much for getting me through maternity leave.. waiting for the baby to arrive has been dragging and I've binged watched so many of your videos to pass time
Columbine Massacre is so horrifying. I've seen a lot a documentaries about it. Brooks was so lucky, that he made amends with Eric before it was too late.
question ,.. do you remember at the time them saying they thought there was 3 and one had gotten away? or seen that anyplace wait for a second look at last picture ,.. 12:53 they are doing finger guns but ,... there is a third ,.. up above them behind to the right in black wearing shades he is aiming down his finger gun too.... the guy beside them is just pointing ,.. you can tell the difference but his palm being facing down as most peoples do when they point ,.. the third finger gun guy i mention has his palm held sideways as one would hold a pistol. perhaps somebody should look into this I vaguely remember at the time they thought there were 3 involved.
@@MYshamanEYE I recall that, I was a freshmen when it happened. I didn't go to Columbine but obviously it changed school forever afterwards. However if you recall some people did survive their little rampage which is why we know the whole "Do you believe in God" thing. Worthless shits, I had a friend who wore a trench coat the next day. We stopped hanging out after that.
@@darthbigred22 That's funny you mention trench coats. My sister-in-law worked for a coat manufacturer and she gave trench coats to my 2 sons. They were told not to wear them to school after this. And I do remember the first reports saying 3.
Growing up in Sacramento and knowing victims, living two houses away from his last Sacramento attack, the East area rapist was my pet case. I studied everything they had. I posted on every crime message board and blog to discuss theories. In fact before the cops even considered the Visalia ransacker was the East area rapist and the original night stalker, we had already made the connection through MO. We all assumed he was a cop (not only was he a cop, in the small town next to Visalia, he was apart of the burglary department.) because of his ability to outsmart the cops and his ability to investigate his upcoming victims. After ransacking got boring, he started stalking a young girl. One night he attempted to kidnap her but her father chased him and was murdered. It was his first known killing. He left the girl. It’s then the investigation really took off. A detective named McGowan tracked his movements. He was known to return to the same house or neighborhood and they estimated where he would be. Believe it or not, he showed up. McGowan pulled his gun and deangelo started screaming and begging him not to shoot him, and while McGowan was walking over a hedge as deangelo was literally acting like a crazy person, deangelo pulled his gun and shot at mcgowan. He missed his eye by a few millimeters but hit his glasses and he was able to escape. It was after that he knew he was done in that area and transferred up to auburn. He was married to a law student and moved to the auburn police department, about 20 minutes east of Sacramento. He was a menace. He was well known in auburn by the local kids. He’d pull them over for nothing and threaten them. He was excessively aggressive. That’s when the rapes started. He targeted women at home alone, from adults to children. After that thrill was gone, he started attacking couples. The police refused to speak about it and finally held a small town meeting at school. The man who stood up was an Italian man. He didn’t berate deangelo, he berated the husbands of the victims for not protecting their wives, telling them they weren’t real men. He was targeted but there is zero proof he was ever at the meeting. He has never been identified in any photos from that night. That photo is not deangelo. Deangelo had a very round cherub face. He was an incredible criminal. He would research his victims for months. He would watch them have sex and make the women reenact what they did with their husbands. He was also known for having a very small penis. During one of his rapes in David he started crying and calling “why Bonnie?? Why???” He was almost caught multiple times. One kid saw him jumping his fence and started chasing him and deangelo shot him in the stomach. There were reports of a man who matched his description who would stop at a 7-11 in one of his hunting grounds so they send plain clothed cops to look for him. Except they just threw a button up on and wore their police uniform pants. Deangelo actually called the store and taunted them for being so stupid. He was then fired from the auburn police for shoplifting a hammer and some dog repellent (which explains the chemical smell his victims recalled). When he was fired he actually showed up at his sergeants house at night with a gun When he was caught it was like all the air was sucked out of Sacramento. People celebrated outside the county jail. As soon as his name was released it was like a waterfall. All of our theories were proven correct (except that he was dead and in jail). He was a police officer. He was the original night stalker and the Visalia ransacker. There was an engagement announcement for him and a woman Bonnie found (they broke up before they married). His wife was a divorce lawyer who moved to southern CA which explains why he suddenly appeared down there as a murderer. He would stop his criminal activity at the time of his daughters birth for a few months. Basically, he was a well and true monster. But he MO didn’t just start as a murderer. He gained confidence and went from a ransacker, to a kidnapper and opportunistic killer, to serial rapist, to a serial rapist and killer. All the work us “citizens” put into this case was worth it to know we were right. If only they had taken the police officer theory seriously. He could have been caught before the murders started.
@@rayfinkle2805 he was very chubby faces, almost cherub. He looked just like one of the sketches. He had a mustache when he was working in auburn for a time too.
I have 10 kangaroos, 3 venom snakes, 5 aggressive dogs, 7 T. rex, 2 killer whales And I have an M16, with automatic gun, And triple locks on my tungsten door Windows made of steel, in a bunker with a gate that only opens with my fingerprint And I have Yamato battleships, With F-22’s in a runway, With a division of US army Try to break into my house *Im just going over the top*
There was a bullied kid at my school who when I asked if he’d help me find the janitor so I can get my car keys he SHUSHED me and pulled out a ton of keys he made to each door of the school and I read it somewhere years later that it happened to someone else, too. Different school and kid, of course. But I thought of him instantly... If anything, I learned that’s why you should be nice to people lol
The man who'd spoken out at the town hall meeting was in an off-handed manner criticizing the previous male victims for not fighting to keep their wives and gf's from being raped. This, more than anything, was what sparked De Angelo to target him. DeAngelo was very much into making the men feel emasculated.
Oh I believe he started to enjoy this fact more than anything else. He then started to target couples who had dogs after someone said oh my dog will be able to stop him or something along those lines.
I lived in South Florida when the Tyler Hadley story happened. I grew up in Port Saint Lucie, Florida for a good chunk of my life and knew the exact neighborhood where this occurred. Good choice on that story. Man, your channel is the best! Thanks for all that you do.
Ok so besides his excellent story telling,can we just appreciate this guy for not only searching the stories and pictures but also for his background I just love it!
For 2 months straight I have been replaying these videos everyday. All day. Very interesting and the way you word things and clarify certain things too. Cause that helps feel like we are in the story in itself. Man I can't thank you enough for your service and videos
I'd heard about these photos and the stories connected with them, but as always Mr. Ballen gives us added details in the backstories we can't get anywhere else. Thanks!
Yup smoking areas , sodas in all the vending machines , and enough bullies to go around to make the 80s seem like child’s play . 90s were great , and that’s not even me being sarcastic weirdly enough . Oh , and EVERYBODY played kickball .
I’m happy I found you late hahaha I check every day for a new post. Love your videos man. I get to watch all of them form the start while I wait for new ones. Wicked.
I grew up in Littleton and went to Columbine! So close to my heart, will never forget that day even tho I had long graduated! My brother was a first responder.
Can’t get enough of this content. It’s consistent and sooo interesting. The delivery is also one of my favs. If I could like these videos more then once ❣️
I am going back and pretty much binge-watching everything and I have to say that MrBallen is just superb story teller! ✌🏻 Plus, there’s no weird pauses, overacting/overreacting, etc. - truly great!
I’d like to talk about Michelle McNamara. She was an author who put basically all of her energy and effort into investigating this case (if I remember correctly, she went to each of the sites of his rapes and murders in order herself). She pretty much worked herself to death over this investigation, and she was one of the big reasons why they caught the guy. It’s a shame she died two years before her efforts fully paid off. Her husband and publisher updated and published her last book, I’ll Be Gone in the Dark (which was about the killer and her search for him), posthumously when the killer was caught.
she was the wife of actor/comedian Patton Oswalt. I believe she took some medicine to help her sleep and never woke up or something along those lines. Left behind a baby girl. So sad.
MrBallen no need to hope dude you are definitely going to hit one million if you continue like this. You’re a lot of people’s favorite channel including mine! There’s no other channel I check daily to see if they’ve uploaded
I am completely hooked to these stories... I might need professional help after listening to all these dark and disturbing stories, but hey, it is just to interesting 😂 And the stories kinda take me away from my own problems. Thank you MR Ballen 😀
I got word from the like button that unless Mr. Ballen makes merch, it will retaliate and fight back! We don’t want that.
P.S. Everyone wants it so might as well!
This is true! I want merch! A backwards hat, a hoodie encouraging throat punching of the like button! Merch!
Damn. That's cool, and funny !😂
Thinks there b Pladde shirts? I bet
@@JAvery-vb9lm Ha !
I stand behind the likes button decision
I literally went through and watched every single one of this guys videos 😂 they’re so entertaining and he’s such a good story teller!
Thanks so much!!
Yeah, when I came across his channel a few months ago I was thoroughly impressed as well!
Same bro
Same lol
Same here.
The Golden State killer is the epitome of "heard you were talking shit"
Underrated comment. Be careful of what you say!
And he was a cop or security
First thing I would have done if I were a cop at that meeting would have been to stake out that house.
Perps love to attend meetings that are about them.
Facts
@@danaernst922 Yeah, a cop that had been by my home many times which was on main St, across the street from a high school, 2 blocks from the police station, and a modeling school for the hottest babes in the county. This was in the 70's when he was most active, and it brings chills to the spine knowing that guy was right there the whole time.
Killing your parents and then throwing a party while they're dead in a room is already disturbing, but that photo gave me chills...
You can clearly tell his friend isnt looking or feeling right on the photo
@@rickhenderson6664 - Oh, for sure.
@@AbraSings which one
Idk i would keep partying
@@rickhenderson6664 yeah. Looks like he just saw a ghost
As a Columbine survivor and a freshman to boot and someone who was in the cafeteria eating lunch with her friends, it gets me every time I see that picture and that I was 15ft from that bomb that didn't go off. I thank God everyday it was a dud. I wouldnt be here if it did! Thank you for telling such interesting stories.
Glad you got to continue living your life. Very sad the lives that were lost and everyone else that was wounded and traumatized. I remember on a doc your principal I l believe mentioned how it was a blessing those bombs didn't go off or a lot more would have died.
Wow...I can't even imagine the fear and what you were thinking, and how you felt when this was happening and afterwards! I'm glad you made it out alive and RIP to the people that didn't! 😢♥️🙏
Incredible. So glad you are here hun.
@@Danimal4992 yes, there would have been hundreds lost had it gone off. 23 years later and it still feels like yesterday.
@@jribs02, it actually came to mind yesterday that it was the anniversary.
“I like you, Go home.”
This is such a terrifying statement. It shows that the shooter knew that what he was doing was wrong. He knew it was wrong enough that he spared his friend. That is the definition of horrifying.
It shows the shooter knew what he was doing was wrong...no shit they knew wtf they planned it out for a year wtf
They also spared at least one more when they were shooting. There was a boy hiding under a table when they came into the library and he asked either one of the shooters, I don't remember who, "Hey, what are you doing?" and he replied "Ah just killing people" then the boy says something like "are you gonna kill me?" and he looks at him and either walks away or says "nah I like you" or something and then walked away and kept shooting. Something like that, it's been awhile since I watched the documentary.
@@annalucy89 john savage.
Honestly I would be even more scared of someone who believes what they’re doing is good. Like a crazy killer who thinks killing people is saving them from the harsh reality of life. Or believes that killing will benefit society in some way.
Like that Dylan roof guy. Watch his interview. Dude is clearly not very bright and describes how he didn’t want to do what he did, but was so brainwashed by internet propaganda that he truly believed shooting up a black church would help save the white race from extinction.
So most killers don’t know that what they are doing is wrong?
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The dark and mysterious delivered in story format: ✅
Wtf is this
I know what is this
*plaid
Aye you rhymed
@@GuadalupeGuacamole I was thinking that but I'm Scottish it might be US spelling
random guy: *makes fun of golden state killer*
golden state killer: “and i took that personally...”
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On god lmaooo i was trying to find the name of the guy who siad it
'so I started blastin'
Also golden state killer: and then I started blasting-
Oh Lord lol
I love it when parents use “they were just hanging out with the wrong crowd”
I mean, if your kid is hanging out with the wrong crowd, then your kid is the wrong crowd, you can’t always just blame other people’s kids 😂
I always heard the saying growing up, "you are the company you keep"
That guy ^ makes an excellent point! Never thought of it that way. Makes a whole lot of sense!
Exactly. Let it be someone else kid and they’ll scream bloody murder but soon as it’s their kid now they wanna show some compassion. I hate that killers get to plead mental health issues to avoid jail. What if the victim had mental health issues but was murdered. If they’re that crazy they shouldn’t know the difference. That’s a privilege no murderer should be allowed.
Usually when people use the phrase “they were just hanging with the wrong crowd”, the person they’re referring to is deceased. And being compassionate, most people don’t want to speak Ill of the dead. It’s not always parents trying to blame other kids, it’s parents attempting to put some perspective on the tragedy that took place.
Your statement isn’t fully correct, but I understand where you’re coming from.
The second story with the kid Tyler who killed his parents before throwing a party is pretty surreal to me. He went to Port Saint Lucie high school in Florida the same years my sister did. She didn’t know him close but had seen him in school and remembers people going to said party. I later went to the same school and either nobody knew or didn’t want to talk about it. It’s just crazy to hear a story that was so close to home.
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Stuff like that happens. I thought I knew what they where talking about until they said the parents bodies where upstairs.
He went to centennial I had classes with them freshman and sophomore year me and my cousin were very close with him and he even invited us to the party luckily I was in Maryland at the time
Only in Florida
@@chancezimmerman5321 which one was tyler in the picture Mr.Ballen posted, I'm guessing the one with the arrow pointed towards him...lol but lmk which one is he?
The golden state killer was actually found from a genealogy website where people voluntarily submit their DNA. Once police had narrowed it down to Deangelo they staked out at his home and waited for him to throw something out that they could collect DNA from to confirm. Pretty cool
i remember there was a big uproar about “how could they do that” and “ that’s not right” blah blah. and the whole time i’m thinking shit, if my ancestry dna sample can help you find a serial killer, hell yes you can look at it 🧐 and the only reason they still had a sample to test with was because of the specific coroner they used... he always made sets of 2 kits from a scene, just in case. and he still had a viable sample decades later. hooray for being over prepared 🙌🏻
Just think what's gonna happen if they keep all the syringes with DNA on after giving covid vaccine.!!!!!
Yeah I thought he'd mention that.
Theres ALLOT of fine print on ancestry. They even git caught up with something along the line of claiming dna by retrieving samples
@@psychobetha It means they can use other peoples' ancestry dna samples to find you, and that's incredibly creepy
How on earth did he neglect to say one of the most shocking facts of the Golden State killer’s identity...that he was a POLICE OFFICER!
Uuuummmmm what’s that got to do with anything? What did BTK do for work? The green river killer? Ted bundy? What they do isn’t who they are or their identity.
@@kylieknight2365 its a pretty interesting fact
@@blackkkabllakkcaa interesting but not related to why he did this police are just normal people
:O
@@kylieknight2365 you sound defensive. It’s interesting BECAUSE the police are who catch criminals. He had the inside scoop and more resources to cover up his tracks or target people, which is probably a key to his not getting caught for so long. Make sense? Not because “police are bad.”
Being a survivor of a serial rapist, this story cuts deep. When the Golden State murderer was identified, it prompted me to contact authorities in another state to see if there was any resolve in my case since 1992. I found out that he murdered the next woman and is in prison with no chance of parole.
I am so glad that you are alive.
@@surrealistgirlx thank you, friend. God had a plan for me.
I was kidnapped and raped whenI was 17. Afterwards they let me go. I had read they're less likely to kill you if you 'befriend' them, so I talked the whole way through it. They even told me I ought to break up with my boyfriend because he didn't even make one move to try and protect me. Anyway I was just glad it was over. I reported it, but then left southern CA and never moved back, so I never found out if those guys were caught or anything. They said I wasn't the first or last.
@@Lydianon I urge you to contact the authorities where it happened. That’s how I found closure. It doesn’t matter how long it’s been. You deserve it.
I was also kidnapped, and he had the actual nerve to drop me off where he picked me up. I worked at the neighborhood convenience store and saw him every day. I thought it was safe to get a ride to the payphone … it wasn’t.
I can't even imagine the pain you went through. I'm glad you got some closure. I'll send out healing loving energy to you.
46 seconds and you already have 50+ comments, that's when you know people love this ❤️❤️
And that they didn't watch it yet 😂
Over 2k already.
Now I’m gonna get 11k punches to the throat
@@brayden2k472 Lol. Sucks being you!
Oh I know
My grandmother was in the Columbine highschool shooting she was an art teacher there and after the shooting she made a huge art project to cover up some of the bullet holes in the walls
It's true, I'm one of the bullet holes
Troll
@@encyclopediabrown1334 why would I be joking or trolling abt that
@@amongussus2301 because you're a psyschopath?
@@hammerfall6666 idk how to respond to that but it's true able her making a school project to cover some of the uncoverable bullet holes
I'm a truck driver and man you make the miles fly by. Keep up the awesome story telling.
Please stay safe and focus on the road, i know you know this already but still. Have a good day.
Do you listen to the scary, ghost, paranormal on your night routes! 😳 oh goodness you are brave.
These videos are good and listening to them on the road is amazing and seems cool and when someone trys to brake in and sees your watching scary videos and there like "uh goodbye."
Awesome! Just as long as you are only listening to the stories and not trying to spot "the secret". I never do see those! Even after it's pointed out I usually can't see it. Too miniscule for my cheap Chromebook screen.
Lol I just throw it on and let it run in the background too. Ridiculously easy to run 600+ haha
This guy helped me be so distracted from his videos I got clean from drugs MR Ballen ty for ur service and ur amazing videos!!
I can't stop watching this backstories series even though I'm always deeply disturbed after watching them.
I know huh??
@MK912 fax
Facts
I agree. I’m going to have to start sleeping with one of my grandchildren’s stuffed animal.
Vigilance if found through fearless knowledge, trust in God and maybe you can be vigilant enough to prevent these fates from happening to others
I'm 40 y/o. The Columbine school shooting happened when I was a senior in high school, and I have heard this stories numerous times, along with seeing lots of video footage. I must say, Mr Ballen, you have a knack for storytelling! I love how you pick someone's point of view in the story that is otherwise pretty insignificant. It's very engaging! I can easily picture your stories in my head as you tell them. I watch your stuff almost every day! Wish you and yours the best!
ive lived in Colorado my whole life and school is absolutely scary im a 10th grader now
Actually his missed alot of the details
Yeah...I was a few grades younger and that shit shook me up. I was several states away...but it impacted us.
Now it just seems like it's the norm, but back then, all the doors were left open...you could sneak in or out of the school. We weren't on lock-down, didn't have camera's all over. And then everything changed overnight.
Glad You survived.
It’s only a matter of time before this guy ends up on television shows. One way or another this man will end up on TV or Netflix etc...
that would be very cool! thanks!!
You’re welcome man! I can 100% see you hosting a paranormal version of 60 minutes or something like that..
@@MrBallen you'd make a good story teller of strange but true stories and get a special on amazon prime like dave pollidus or on Netflix good luck to u and your family be so happy for u when your new baby is here
I agree
I hope he does not go that way. Pretty much everyone who has jumped into that corporate media world has been burned for it. I suspect that if he did go into a television or netflix show, it would burn him out and the content would be worse for it. Perhaps the production values woudl go p, but I fear his zeal and excitement and passion would start going down. And that zeal and passion and excitement is why he i so good at this, in addendum to his hard work (motivated by his excitement for it, rather than a paycheck).
So while i agree that Mr Ballen would excel and succeed on television or netflix or some other kind of corporate media, that it was corporate media would start to ruin him for it, and I'd rather he stayed independent, free, and happy.
I was in 7th grade when that shooting happened. We were all sent home that day and I just remembered watching the news and I couldn't hold back my tears. Every year since then I always say a prayer for the families of all the victims.
As soon as I heard the words “Colorado”, “school”, and “Eric” I knew where that story was going and it wasn’t to a good place.
I knew just by the date..... April 20th, aka 420 stoner holiday. 1999. I was just about to turn 13 years old. It's still horrifying. Just like 9/11..…
I go to columbine high school they still have the same carpet in liberty where earic and Dylan killed them self and there is still bullet holes
@@ShockWavz I live in Ed Gein's old place. Cheap cheap!
@@orionthehunter217 how much was it?
@@epic6644 My soul! That's it! Can you believe it? The realtor was very nice.
I'm surprised that with a house full of wasted kids, none of them tried to sneak away into an upstairs bedroom.
That’s what I was thinking! If he didn’t weirdly tell his friend any kid could have stumbled in, heck even by accident if they were looking for the bathroom. So bizarre.
I'm sure they might have. But when the door didn't open fully they probably went "meh" and walked off. Even if they saw a leg, if they were wasted they probably thought "oh some poor asshole already went and passed out in here" or something.
And even THEN... You'd be surprised what people might keep to themselves. I know if I were at a part like that, drunk off my ass, and someone was like "Man I tried to go upstairs and look around, but someone passed out in the bedroom or something I can't get the door open" I'd probably get anxious over what the right thing was to do. Even though outside of the situation the obvious answer is "call emergency services"... A teenager drunk at this massive party, especially one where the kid throwing it keeps reminding ppl police could be called which would get us in TROUBLE... Idk man.
That's an excellent point.
Bro it’s so crazy that I’ve heard of these stories already but you tend to point out the most fascinating details that everyone usually glazes over!!
Facts
Lol
Exactly, he's a great storyteller!!! 👍
the story about Erick and Dylan telling someone to go home reminds me of the time I was working OT in the office one night. There was a guy who always kept to himself, etc. and was near retirement age. They had tried to force him out, even had a retirement party for him and gave him gifts. But he went to HR and didn't leave. He was there the following Monday. Nothing we could do about it. He was constantly sleeping, snoring at his desk, etc. A few weeks later I was working OT, which was unusual. The lights would get turned off automatically in the building, so after 6p I'd have to make sure the lights in my office were on. All of a sudden he walked in my office and said excuse me, Ms. MJ, you need to leave. NOW. I said ok, grabbed my purse and left. I think it was the first time I'd EVER heard him speak. I would always say hi to him, would bring him brownies, etc. from home so I guess he liked me. I walked down to the Director's office who was still there, and told him what happened. He said lets get the hell out of here. We left and let security know what happened. It was creepy as hell. They checked the building, nothing was amiss, but they decided he was no longer allowed on the premises and he never showed up again. I have no idea what happened to him, but a a few months later I went into my office and someone had drawn a smiley face on my notebook I kept next to my computer, and under it was written 'thank you for treating me like a human.' I showed it to the Director and he said yup.....that's his writing. He somehow managed to keep a card key to the building. So they had to inspect the building again, and change all access.
I was half expecting you to say you saw something on the news later that day, but that was more wholesome than anticipated
But... Why did he tell you to leave... ?! 😬
i think its weirder you guys reacted so weirdly over it.
@@ChildofVitalani Maybe he planned something horrible, but changed his mind at the last moment?
let this be a lesson to all of you , never be nice or kind to a woman
It's always crazy hearing about Columbine high school and then getting up and looking out your apartment window just to see Columbine high school. Literally 200 yards from me
That’s nuts
I got a trespassing charge for taking a picture of the school when I lived in Colorado. I had to drive to Jeffco court three times from the Springs in terrible whether. All for taking a perfectly legal picture.
@@daveaf5281 My dad works in Parkland Florida and we often pass by the school that was shot up by Nik Cruz. Nobody would notice if I took a picture. Or probably fine me if I did. Sucks what happened to you.
@Chris Mcgarrity yeah I saw it , it’s shit ..
I was a senior in hs when that happened. We had some crazy stuff happen that year, including suicides from jumping off buildings (one I witnessed) and someone held a teacher hostage with a shotgun, but Columbine just made us on edge. Still gives me the heebie jeebies
That first story, the second you said 'town hall' I knew the killer would be there to see what was up lol
The killer was actually a cop too
@@edgarretana8377 The guy he hired for the hit was a cop?? Life might be worse for him than the death penalty. The other inmates wouldn't like him much haha
that's not joseph james deangelo in the pic though. this guy is misinformed...
I thought it was gonna be a trap, but once the boaster turned up dead, the cops should have known that the people at that meeting were their suspect list.
I thought the “twist of fate” for the first story would be that the dude calling the GSK weak was actually the killer pretending to blend in.
Same
I wonder if the "Red John" character was born from the GSK?
He was actually calling the male victims weak for letting their wives be raped, then it happened to him
Didn't he also happen to be a cop?
I thought it was a plan to draw the killer out and then stake out the guys house, which would've worked, apparently
Tyler's friend Michael handled an unimaginable situation as well as anyone could. How hard it must have been, but he did the right thing. He is really a remarkable young man. How tragic that he had to experience what he did, including just the loss of his lifelong friend, and for such a reason as that.
I went to school with Tyler and was actually invited to his party but my mom wouldn’t let me go, Thank God she didn’t
It's true, i was the mom
@@iamgroot6965 it's true i was the party....oh wait
What?
It's true I was Tyler
It’s true her mom told me she couldn’t go so I had to go by myself 😪
This dude’s ability to speak in a way to make you want to listen is impeccable. Great job!!
I put on headphones and go to sleep listening, and do the same for our 2.5 hour drive to our cabin
He is great!!
When you said "go home i like you" i instantly knew Columbine High School
i like you now brooks, get out of here. go home
If he would know how xD
@@untze0 exactly
@@untze0 I thought the same thing.
@@untze0 I wasn't paying attention to the beginning of this story and missed the year and place, but as soon as he mentioned the name Eric I was 99% sure it was Columbine. I was a junior in high school when this happened and I remember watching the news coverage live on TV.
Mr Ballen is everything.I’m like super addicted…If he ever gets grandchildren,they’d be the luckiest because their grandpa would know exactly how to deliver a splendid story
D'Angelo wasn't proving a point you cant touch me...by changing his MO. He was changing his M.O because even after killing the loud mouth dude and his wife, he was deeply hurt, and took what that guy said to heart, that killing poor defensiveness woman alone was embarrassing and so....started killing married couples because not only was it more challenging and sick it made him feel better as a man...
I can't believe during a house party no one went into that room before the friend did wow.
Right? No one split off from the party to go blaze or fuck? What kinda lame ass party was this?! 😄
@@allamericananti-christ666 if you gotta split off from the main room of a party to smoke you doin it wrong🤦♀️😂
ya thats crazy. if you ever been to a large party you know that cant be true. someone had to see it.
@@scottybank1249 its not that anyone has to. its just that not everyone wants to pass around there og kush to share with hundreds of people
@@soulfly3438 exactly 💯
On the third story, I knew the second he said the guy told his classmate "I like you now, go home" that it was the story of Columbine...such a sad and scary story.
it’s hard to see the video made about the parents/kids 20 years later, and having the dad wearing his kids shoes the day he died
That's why I treat ALL my classmates nicely, because u never know when 1 of them will pop off
We had a kid in our grade who was constantly bullied by everyone else. But, he seemed emotionally unstable and it appeared that his home life wasn't that great either (I never knew him well enough to know for sure, I was making an assumption). I never made fun of him, didn't laugh when others were being mean, and I tried to always be nice to him because 1 I try my best to just be a decent person and 2 I didn't want to die if he snapped and brought a gun to school....I hope life got better for him.
I knew as soon as Judgement Day popped up.. I've researched that damn thing too much and I have no clue why...
Same here. Did a 10 page paper on Columbine back in the day
Murderer: "Awww, he's my friend... he won't tell"
Friend: "Hmmm.... I'm the only living witness to a murder, and the murderer will soon realize this"
...."hello, police?"
Imagine how physically braindead you have to be to have a massive house party in a house where you keep your dead parents, with only one door standing between the party guests and the evidence.
@@dustingaethje1332 he didn't expect to get away, he knew he was getting caught
@@mulattens exactly
👍 then go into hiding 😬
@@mulattens 100% agree. I think he knew, once he told his friend, that he was essentially turning himself in - whether the friend ratted him out or not. The very fact that he was telling someone in the first place meant that he didn't care if the news got out, and the complete disregard for hiding the evidence beyond one shut door likewise shows a total lack of concern for being caught.
I suspect that it was originally planned to be a proud middle finger to his parents, essentially a celebration of their death(plus some cheekiness at throwing this huge party with no one suspecting what he'd done), but I suspect - based on the way he talked to his friend about it - that after the deed was actually done, the gravity of it all hit him. I think he stopped caring much what happened to him after that point, or maybe even welcomed being caught and punished. The way mrballen tells it, it doesn't sound as though he talked about his parents' murders with much bravado. (Though maybe that's just how mrballen is choosing to tell it, and isn't indicative of reality.)
I was in high-school during Columbine. An emergency news broadcast came over the mounted TVs, and being that CO isn’t far from us, shook us all to the core. I remember after that the “trench coat mafia” was made popular, and there were so many threats made to our school and all other schools surrounding. Being that the worst thing to happen before that were fist fights it was huge, sad and scary.
The scary thing is that Joseph Deangelo was a police officer...
Yes. But what’s more scary is he’s not the only cop who who’s done shit like this. Daniel holtzclaw didn’t kill anyone but he used his position to rape several women. There isn’t enough of background checks or psych evaluations for the people we decide to give guns (both citizens and police)
That’s how he got away with it for so long. Who knows if the department was trying to cover his tracks as well...
@@TheStonedEvo I don't know about Holtzclaw, after looking into his case a lot deeper I have my doubts as to wether he is guilty or not. Either way, there was also a border patrol agent more recently who was found to be a serial killer, and there are most certainly more law enforcement personal who are active serial killers who just have not yet been discovered. That really is a scary thought. You could be going about your business driving home from work, get pulled over by one of these guys who happens to be an undiscovered serial killer, become their next victim, and pretty much all they have to do to get away with it is say they thought you had a weapon and disobeyed their command. Yeah, you are dead on about needing to more thoroughly vet those we are hiring into any kind of law enforcement position.
TheMattc999 holy crap what fantasy are you living in 😂idk what your on but hand some over
TheMattc999 if that happened they would be fired just saying they review all body cams it’s almost like they were made for a reason
Having watched The Mentalist, the second you said that dude stood up and started berating a serial killer I was like, "so that dude's next."
I thought that he would either be next or he was the killer disgiused as a citizen
I love The Mentalist.
Same
And I thought that dude was the killer.
I had figured that the guy who taunted the killer was planted by the authorities to flush him out. Huh...I guess they weren't that smart.
Mr Ballens voice is so soothing, he could put me to sleep while talking about murder
I have fallen asleep like that
Pretend it's the military and there's a don't ask don't tell policy.
Navod Abeyasinghe same
Me too 💤
The way he tells it is creepy but it is like a bedtime story!
I literally never thought I would be so entertained just watching and listening to someone tell a story, I am completely amazed! Thank you so much for your stories and your channel... Have you done anything new lately? I've been looking but everything I've found is from a year ago
He just seems like a dope person that can vibe with anybody. What a lad.
Thank god that the propane bombs didn't go off. They were set by pillars so that the library would collapse on top of the lunchroom while all the kids were at lunch. If they would've it might've been more horrific than it already was. Dave Sanders who was a gym teacher saved so many kids that day and gave his own life for them. I just graduated from there and it was the most amazing high school I've ever been to.
most amazing high school you’ve ever been to? how many high schools have you been to?😂
Connor Strahan I went to 5 different ones, why is this funny? People move.
Tyler Damos damn 5 in 4 years. That’s crazy 😭
It's hard to collapse buildings. I doubt theyd work
Experi Mental I mean they are bombs though
Dylan's mother actually did a TED talk on what it is like to be the parent of one of the columbine shooters. I watched it years ago. It's interesting and sad. I felt so sorry for her.
I wouldn't....she raised an asshole who killed people for believing in God. He wasn't even bullied all that much and certainly not a friendless outsider. They didn't just shoot the preps, they shot the nerds, the normies as well. In fact looking at who they shot they mostly failed at who you would think they would have been going after.
No she like every parent of serial killers and so on had a hand in what made him.
I watched it too a couple of years ago, I felt very sad for her because she was pretty much hated in the town after what her son did but this woman not only lost her son but she was also the mother of the boy who killed dozens of people so I can't even imagine how it must've been for her and how it still is for her to never escape the nightmare of what her son did! When the funerals were held for both the students they killed and themselves no one showed up to those funerals so the family was basically alone grieving their sons. Not that I don't understand! I do for sure! I just feel bad for what she had to go through
@@darthbigred22 clearly mental health was involved in this case! You cannot blame the mother do you blame Ted Bundy's mother do you blame Zodiac killer's mother most likely not
@@aquatarot4694 the overwhelming majority of serial killers have/had over-bearing and abusive parents. soooo. yeah.
@@Faiiltrain but not all of them did again when your a grown ass adult you make your own choices .. I was abused my hole I was even taken by cps that doesn't mean I get to kill people
Hearing the golden state story while moving into a new home tomorrow: Well, new fear unlocked. 😩
The fact that you are just now hearing abt him is crazy 😂
Bro im in my new home alone at midnight 😧
I hope we hear about you in MrBallins future content, I love a good story.
California isn't golden anymore. Now its brown like shit.
He have just the cliff notes version. He started out as the ransacker. Became known as the Easy Area Rapist (raped 50 women that we know of) then became known as The Original Night Stalker. He was later named The Golden State Killer in the 2010s. And if you listen to the more full details of the case it’s even more disturbing.
"Between 1974 and 1975"
Me: Ah, yes. 1974.5
Well it would be 1974.6 as in months to a year.
@@zxtudio No, he's right... 6/12 months is half a year a.k.a. 0.5 After 6 months, half of the year has gone by. Imagine trying to correct someone who's right lmao
@@mattmroz2182 yeah wtf
Ah June 1974
@@zxtudio r/confidentlyincorrect
Quick note; This horrible man we now know as “The Golden State Killer” was not known by that nickname until 2013 when Michelle McNamara coined it and began her book “I’ll Be Gone In The Dark.” He was known in one part of CA as “The Original Night Stalker” and in another park as “The East Area Rapist.” He kept moving into different police jurisdictions that, at the time, didn’t communicate. The nicknames being different didn’t help, and there was another murderer already referred to as “The Night Stalker.”
When this nickname was given and adopted, it was seen as a better descriptor and as more and more departments began compiling and sharing details, they realized how prolific he actually was.
It is true that the GSK did target the man that made fun of him in the community meeting. He was also a police officer for many years. “I’ll Be Gone in the Dark” is worth the read. If you have HBO they also did a miniseries about it under the same name. This was also the first case that was solved by “familial” DNA - meaning the DNA of a family member via an ancestry website is how they ended up catching him.
probably because he couldn't pronounce "Visalia" Vie-sail-yah".
Yes, you said what I was going to say. “I’ll be Gone in the Dark” is a fantastic book, and I’m sorry it’s author didn’t get to see how her own contributions to investigating the killer did finally help capture him. And it is important to note that Ms. McNamara is the one who actually connected the crimes and helped investigators figure out they were all being perpetrated by a single man she dubbed “The Golden State Killer.”
So glad you made this post. I was thinking of doing the same, but wanted to check the comments first. Good call.
You know, with all of the technology available, you'd think the authorities would adapt to using it a lot sooner than they have.
To be fair, the man wasn’t taunting deangelo, but the men who’s wives were attacked while they were home. He couldn’t believe that a man would allow that to happen to his wife and made fun of their manhood for it. He wasn’t targeted for his statement. He wasn’t attacked until months later and just happened to live in a favorite hunting area for EAR. The pictures have been looked over and over and over and deangelo was not there that night.
The golden state killer is weak, come to MY house and try that.
Golden state killer: “Hold my beer.”
Lol right? Let’s antagonize the man who police haven’t identified, and has been clever enough to evade the public.
Just goes to show that you never know whose watching.
Honestly though if I were at the meeting I’d of probably anticipated that the killer would be too. That’s just common sense. He should of been watching his ass after making those claims, I would’ve been lol. It’s horrible the killer murdered him and his wife. But that guy was really, really dumb to paint a target on himself, and his family.
And he was a cop himself, too. And still a coward because he always took them by surprise with a weapon and even deloaded any weapons in the house while they were gone.
@@LTPottenger That’s just smart if you’re trying to kill someone without them getting the upper hand. Not that I’m condoning any of that.
Hahahaha right?
This channel is part of my daily routine when getting ready for work
One day the like button is gonna get fed up with all the abuse and get revenge on Ballen. Then the horrific details will be told, in story format, on the like button's TH-cam channel.
Lololol
Wouldn't the killings be spread out to everyone that liked and subscribed?
@@jorayx possibly... we should all watch our backs.
Lmao!! we have to get the like button before they get our buddy who else going to tell us disturbing story in a format
lmao
Tyler: I killed my parents
Well that escalated quickly
Tyler Hadley was my classmate in high school. Very quiet kid. I was shocked when this happened. A few of my friends went to that party.
Why didn't u go?
How traumatic.
I remember reading this comment of a person that said they ended up watching a lot of MrBallen quickly.
I just shrugged it off. I was just starting to watch his videos. Pretty good, but it didn’t take much of my time.
After a while, I noticed that there were so many videos of his that pulled me in. He is such a good story teller, and he brings such good stories that you just can’t not watch him.
I ended up spending a lot of hours watching him. I even try to kind of pinpoint which videos are the most that grab my attention the most to not spend too much time watching him.
He’s too good, man. Keep up the good work. I can’t believe how easily you can make people watch you so much.
My mom was pregnant with me and had a clinic check up the day of the Columbine shooting and distinctively remembers as the wounded students were being rolled down the hallway passed her into the ER while she waited in the waiting room. Heartbreaking.
🥺🥺🥺 so awful!!
I have never heard/seen the picture of the Columbine school massacre students before. That sh¡t is crazy, sick & twisted and very very sad. Just wish the meaningless killings would stop.
mental illness is a rampant problem
They’re not “meaningless killings”.
Kids need to be taught not to absolutely torment other kids beyond belief & cause them to break, & then get upset when they’ve reached their breaking point.
Proper discipline against bullying needs to take place, & the school shootings would come to an end. Raise your kids better.
@Keegan Kokko Maybe this applies in their case, but it doesn't make my point any less relevant in these kinds of scenarios. My point stands against people who are *severely* bullied, poked & prodded at in high school, & the torment that ensues from that course. Just because these guys happened to seem shitty, that doesn't immediately devalue & disprove the significance of the sheer torment being incessantly pushed & broken can eventually build into. It's not always just the one who brings the gun to school that's the "monster" or the "psychopath". People need to give a shit about others before they end up getting way passed their breaking point.
I live in Colorado and we always had tons of assembly's to try and prevent this type of thing from happening again. I've actually met a few parents who will come to the assemblys who kids were killed that day to talk about it. Definitely heartbreaking.
@@NicciZelda they weren't bullied or outcasts. They were assholes and psychopaths. Regardless, lenty of bullied children grow up and get help for their trauma. They don't use it as an excuse to harm others. Either way, it's not even relevant to the little Columbine psychopaths.
It surprised me that you didn't even mention the Golden state killer was a cop. That's how he got away with it so long. He did it while he was on patrol.
Not at all BTK was only caught over a parking ticket.
So glad they finally caught that guy. He was truly a monster.
I live in Visalia he was a police officer In Exeter next town over
Now that I didn't know.
Kylie No, you’re thinking of the Son of Sam (David Berkowitz.). BTK was caught because he sent the police a computer disk, and they were able to access the metadata which told them what computer had been used to create the file.
These are my favorite videos to watch!! Me and my friends all talk about what true crime TH-camrs we watch and I say “MR BALLEN!!!!! He’s so awesome! You have to watch his videos Litterly the best out there”
"Eric dragged this duffle bag to this car where his friend named Dylan..."
Oh.
why is there always a dylan in school shootings?
I realized it as soon as he said the name Eric
"Throat punch the like button" has to be my favorite yet....
random citizen: *makes fun of the golden state killer"
Golden State Killer: "am I a joke to u?"
yeah he was a joke thats why he was joking about the prick
"Challenge accepted"
"I'm about to destroy this man's career"
@@randomuserwitharandomname6183 y e s
And I took that personally...
I'm going thru a rough path these days and your videos help me alot ,thank you mr ballen 🙂
The Columbine story has got to be one of the most chilling stories ever. So scary how long they planned that shit.
I've seen footage from the school it's truly sickening how terrible and cold these boys were, laughing at people as they shot them several times when they found them trying to hide under desks and hearing them scream and beg for them not to shoot them. It was absolutley one of the most terrible things I've ever seen.
I was living in Aurora when this happened. That night a friend did not show up to work, we were all worried about her. It was later that week found out it was her father that was killed. Those two were evil, they had good families, good lives, yet were incapable of any human emotions. I remember an interview with one of the families, and the parents were so shocked because they had never yelled at their son, never hit him, never punished him. That is when I realized where the problem started.
@Guerilla Gurus Millions have been bullied even worse than they were and did not go out and shoot up a school. Saying bullying caused it is like saying Hitler killed the Jews because a Jewish teacher told him his artwork was horrible.
@Guerilla Gurus No I have no idea what it was like to go to school in the 1990s. I went to school in the 1970s. Being mixed race and in the south tell me how bad bullying was? Because I really have no idea what is like to be daily targeted and beaten. I have no idea what is like to be kicked out of school because they found out my actual racial make up. I have no idea what is like to be the "token". No you are not making sense in a real world. Yes in a perfect world we would all be nice and polite. This is the real world children are always cruel, because they have not learned to filter. Strength is not gained by no resistance it is only gained with struggle. The issues we are facing today with the riots and the political murders are a direct result of a generation "protected" from bullies and disappointments. Those two were evil, they said they were bullied but all evidence indicates they suffered very little bullying. Actual evidence indicates they were often the bullies and targeted some of the most bullied kids at their school. That narrative was quickly shot down by the local press who did a very detailed investigation of both their pasts, and how the police conducted the investigation and what the facts were.
I know I lived near there and as I said the teacher shot was a good friends father.
@Guerilla Gurus Hitler was very popular in the Army, won an Iron Cross for bravery. He was also very well liked and popular long before he went into politics. His introduction into the NSDAP was as a mole working for the government to determine the threat they posed. His charisma, popularity and speaking abilities led him to embrace them and then lead them. Hitler had a very strict father, a mother who coddled him and spoiled him. In school he was popular and well liked by the other students. He was unpopular with teachers after his mother died and he became sullen. Before that he was a star pupil. Hitler only ever suffered imagined slights and oppression. Well until the treaty of Versailles then every German became oppressed and suffered.
I have been binge watching MrBallen ever since I discovered him. He is the best storyteller I have come across on the interwebs. Love it! Thank you, MrBallen!
At the time of the last story, I was a delivery driver for a food supply company here in Denver when this happened. I was right at the school at the exact moment it was happening and was held in place in my truck for 4 hours till they cleared me to leave the area..
I heard ur the guy that took him there
@@d1user hey partner are you okay I mean are you doing good cuz it kind of seems like you're not if you're making comments like that on some miscellaneous TH-cam short video just for attention I mean are you doing okay I mean maybe you should look into getting a professional to talk to you or something to help you straighten out whatever is going on in your mind that it's causing you to do that just saying hope you get the help you need take care
@@mikemoore8808 howdi partner.
Look up the meaning of humour or wat a comment section is for.
U need to take ur own advice, ur the one that wrote a long rambling reply, repeating same thing.
or maybe u need to get out more or get laid.
U done exactly wat ur saying I done, so maybe might even need English lessons
@@No.Th13teen he seems dim, I sisncerely hope that personal growth happens on their part before life comes and kicks them directly in their got damn teeth. Because it will. And I didn’t want to directly reply to that person. So I did to you. Think I’ve seen you comment on other me.b wtuff before(if not mistaken)
Have a good one
How I wish that Mr. Ballen would discuss at length these cases, there are so many details to dive into and footage and pictures, etc. He has a great way of storytelling and these are huge stories so it would be so cool to see a 40-50min long video deep diving into these cases.
Mrballen should make blankets so when we are watching at night we can hide under the covers🙂
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The father of one of the girls that was killed in the Columbine shooting came to speak at my high school and he said she wrote in a diary saying that she felt like she wasn’t going to have a long life and she was going to die young. Crazy how some people ultimately have that intuition of these really awful things
Thats just poor analysis. Not to be rude, but if we only ever look at the diary of a person who has died young, then it would come across as such. But for all you know one in every 20 kids with a diary could write that even if only 1/100000 die young. Its just statistics. She isnt psychic. There are probably tons of kids who say that and experience nothing. But we dont talk about that because nothing happened
😢
Her name was Rachel(forgot the last name). Her father also spoke to us when I was in Webb City High School, back in 2008. Hearing his and his family's story was horrible. He asked us all to tell our parents we loved them afterwards, and that was the first thing my sister and I did when we got home. No place in the world for evil.
I’ve heard all of these cases multiple times, done my own research ect and you still managed to have me on the edge of my seat. Just amazing
I remember the Columbine tragedy like it was yesterday. So terribly sad that some students feel so lost and hopeless that they resort to such violence. The parents were clearly disconnected from those kids if they spent so much time planning this, allegedly building things in the garage, and they never noticed? Jeez
Except these guys were "popular". Athletic, social and often the bullies, not the victims. Apparently the media doing live coverage had heard the shooters were wearing black coats and drew conclusions (something about black coats = outcasts) but once they started reporting this people ran with it and there have been dozens of mass shootings all inspired by this bit of false reporting. Because Apparently, the story of popular kids shooting up a school just isn't as interesting. But this is just what I've got from a few documentaries about the shooting and the long term effects.
Dylan’s mom did an absolutely shattering TED Talk about her son. She’s spent her whole life since then speaking about mental health and the dangers of depression. It was really difficult to feel compassion for her (easy to blame the parents), but by the end of her talk I was deeply affected by her courage.
Strangely, I listen to these to fall asleep. 😬
I was unsure if I was the only one getting comfortable with this..
This video is showing up as unlisted and I don't see it on your channel page, but i somehow got it recommended to me. I feel like I just got into the secret video viewing club. I still punched the like button in the throat because I saw it stealing an old lady's purse.
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People don't raise kids anymore. They just live together.
So true and only 2 likes before mine whelp. Im guessing many of the non like button pushers are shitty parents themselves and thus didnt do any button smashing as mr johnny b would say
Its crazy because Im 31 and Im learning that even things like Columbine aren't common knowledge to people 25 and under. It really puts it into perspective to what extent we are living through history.
Dang, 30 here. I didn't realize so much time has passed, that not everyone knows about it anymore.
Im 20. I learned about it in high school
I'm 27 and knew the name and that it was one of MANY school shootings. I never bothered to get into the details because they all start to sound the same. Only real difference with Columbine seems to have been the explosives and meticulous planning.
The fact that it was so blown up in media is the reason for many subsequent attacks, with weak minded impressionable copycats. Media shouldn't have put these guys faces and names out there the way they did.
I'm 21 and I don't know anyone my age who hasn't heard about Columbine... it's still something that's talked about and well known I don't know where you're getting the idea that it's not. Maybe younger kids don't know about it but most people my age certainly do
Eric originally had Brooks at the top of his hit list. Had threatened to kill him in the past. He randomly decided that day to forgive him for some reason. Eric was the true psychopath. He was responsible for most of the deaths. Dylan was mostly just suicidal and deeply depressed. Leaving him impressionable and easily exploited by Eric. Brooks was actually Dylan's very good, childhood friend who was introduced to Eric after Dylan befriended Eric after he moved to their town. This pretty much destroyed Brooks and Dylan's friendship after a very petty altercation between Eric and Brooks over a snowball fight. Just proving even more how messed up that kid was. Brooks' mother even called out Eric for "having everyone else fooled" a while before the shooting.
Yeah they were Psychopaths alright but you got to ask yourself to what is it that made them that psycho? I mean you hate to say it in a way but some of them kids probably brought a little bit of that on themselves and on a lot of innocent people who didn't even know those too but people don't just do what they did for no reason whatsoever or just because they're quote crazy mental illness is rarely 100% of the reason things like this happen
@@mikemoore8808 well there’s the whole “nature v nurture” argument of how a person develops, is it their environment or is it their genetics? And a bit of both, but if someone is a psychopath, they’re mentally ill, and this is something that can go “undetected” (the family/school ignores signs of mental health issues) like hurting animals, doesn’t feel guilt in any capacity, is a pathological liar, and a complete lack of empathy, if the parents ignore these very obvious behaviours, which are a mental illness and therefore genetic, they are then nurturing them, they’re enabling them. By nurturing these behaviours they’ll become emboldened and their behaviours may become more extreme over time, which can ultimately be avoided if they actually watch their kids mental health and seek professional medical care.
So it comes down to “is it nature or nurture” and others thinking “can someone be born evil”, when really it’s both nature AND nurture, that they’re genetically predisposed to these behaviours and their families completely ignore the signs and don’t seek help. Hell we all know schools are terrible at actually caring about kids behaviours, so it’s easy to see why a psychopaths tendencies will fester in such a way, which is just fucking devastating if you think about it. The signs were there, but got ignored and were incidentally enabled.
Being a psychopath isn’t a mental illness. It’s something entirely different. Mental illness is either a chemical imbalance, damage, or an uncontrollable condition. Psychopathic is in people from birth and they’re entirely in control of themselves.
@@bongwelll Psychopathy is more complex than that and I disagree completely. However, it's widely debated among psychologists also so it's not surprising for you to think that. I just don't agree.
@@bongwelll i consider psychopaths who are mostly out of touch of feelings.
Thank you so much for getting me through maternity leave.. waiting for the baby to arrive has been dragging and I've binged watched so many of your videos to pass time
Columbine Massacre is so horrifying. I've seen a lot a documentaries about it. Brooks was so lucky, that he made amends with Eric before it was too late.
whole human history is, that school shooting is nothing compared to the whole human history... but yeah, who am i to tell
question ,.. do you remember at the time them saying they thought there was 3 and one had gotten away? or seen that anyplace
wait for a second look at last picture ,.. 12:53 they are doing finger guns but ,... there is a third ,.. up above them behind to the right in black wearing shades he is aiming down his finger gun too.... the guy beside them is just pointing ,.. you can tell the difference but his palm being facing down as most peoples do when they point ,.. the third finger gun guy i mention has his palm held sideways as one would hold a pistol.
perhaps somebody should look into this I vaguely remember at the time they thought there were 3 involved.
@@MYshamanEYE I recall that, I was a freshmen when it happened. I didn't go to Columbine but obviously it changed school forever afterwards.
However if you recall some people did survive their little rampage which is why we know the whole "Do you believe in God" thing.
Worthless shits, I had a friend who wore a trench coat the next day. We stopped hanging out after that.
@@darthbigred22 people can be pretty messed up ,..sad
@@darthbigred22 That's funny you mention trench coats. My sister-in-law worked for a coat manufacturer and she gave trench coats to my 2 sons. They were told not to wear them to school after this. And I do remember the first reports saying 3.
MrBallen: “Please throat punch the like button”
Me: *Cracks knuckles with malicious intent*
💀💀
I’m loving these disturbing photo stories. Time to throw punch 🥊 the like button guys
He said "throat punch" the like button, as in to collapse its wind pipe.
GigAkuma 🤦🏾♀️ I heard it wrong either way the like button getting punched
@@ToniMichelle I heard "throw punch" too🤣🤣🤣 I thought maybe it was a secret Navy Seal move😂😂😂
Gary Collins at least I’m not alone
@@garycollins4399 lol a secret navy seal move.
Growing up in Sacramento and knowing victims, living two houses away from his last Sacramento attack, the East area rapist was my pet case. I studied everything they had. I posted on every crime message board and blog to discuss theories. In fact before the cops even considered the Visalia ransacker was the East area rapist and the original night stalker, we had already made the connection through MO. We all assumed he was a cop (not only was he a cop, in the small town next to Visalia, he was apart of the burglary department.) because of his ability to outsmart the cops and his ability to investigate his upcoming victims. After ransacking got boring, he started stalking a young girl. One night he attempted to kidnap her but her father chased him and was murdered. It was his first known killing. He left the girl. It’s then the investigation really took off. A detective named McGowan tracked his movements. He was known to return to the same house or neighborhood and they estimated where he would be. Believe it or not, he showed up. McGowan pulled his gun and deangelo started screaming and begging him not to shoot him, and while McGowan was walking over a hedge as deangelo was literally acting like a crazy person, deangelo pulled his gun and shot at mcgowan. He missed his eye by a few millimeters but hit his glasses and he was able to escape. It was after that he knew he was done in that area and transferred up to auburn. He was married to a law student and moved to the auburn police department, about 20 minutes east of Sacramento. He was a menace. He was well known in auburn by the local kids. He’d pull them over for nothing and threaten them. He was excessively aggressive. That’s when the rapes started. He targeted women at home alone, from adults to children. After that thrill was gone, he started attacking couples. The police refused to speak about it and finally held a small town meeting at school. The man who stood up was an Italian man. He didn’t berate deangelo, he berated the husbands of the victims for not protecting their wives, telling them they weren’t real men. He was targeted but there is zero proof he was ever at the meeting. He has never been identified in any photos from that night. That photo is not deangelo. Deangelo had a very round cherub face. He was an incredible criminal. He would research his victims for months. He would watch them have sex and make the women reenact what they did with their husbands. He was also known for having a very small penis. During one of his rapes in David he started crying and calling “why Bonnie?? Why???”
He was almost caught multiple times. One kid saw him jumping his fence and started chasing him and deangelo shot him in the stomach. There were reports of a man who matched his description who would stop at a 7-11 in one of his hunting grounds so they send plain clothed cops to look for him. Except they just threw a button up on and wore their police uniform pants. Deangelo actually called the store and taunted them for being so stupid. He was then fired from the auburn police for shoplifting a hammer and some dog repellent (which explains the chemical smell his victims recalled). When he was fired he actually showed up at his sergeants house at night with a gun
When he was caught it was like all the air was sucked out of Sacramento. People celebrated outside the county jail. As soon as his name was released it was like a waterfall. All of our theories were proven correct (except that he was dead and in jail). He was a police officer. He was the original night stalker and the Visalia ransacker. There was an engagement announcement for him and a woman Bonnie found (they broke up before they married). His wife was a divorce lawyer who moved to southern CA which explains why he suddenly appeared down there as a murderer. He would stop his criminal activity at the time of his daughters birth for a few months.
Basically, he was a well and true monster. But he MO didn’t just start as a murderer. He gained confidence and went from a ransacker, to a kidnapper and opportunistic killer, to serial rapist, to a serial rapist and killer. All the work us “citizens” put into this case was worth it to know we were right. If only they had taken the police officer theory seriously. He could have been caught before the murders started.
Thank you so much for all of this information. I wish the police listened to you & others. What a tragic loss of life.
I was in Carmichael. Dad was a cop. At 16 my father made me painfully aware of everything he was doing.
That was a good read thanks for sharing. I never realized there was a dispute over Richard Ramires’ crimes as the night stalker
Plus that’s never de Angelo in this photo. Doesn’t even look like him
@@rayfinkle2805 he was very chubby faces, almost cherub. He looked just like one of the sketches. He had a mustache when he was working in auburn for a time too.
And thats why I have a small army of pit bulls, try breaking into my house.
Lmao- are they big babies though? I keep seeing them as big babies (when in proper care!) :))
I have 10 kangaroos, 3 venom snakes, 5 aggressive dogs, 7 T. rex, 2 killer whales
And I have an M16, with automatic gun, And triple locks on my tungsten door
Windows made of steel, in a bunker with a gate that only opens with my fingerprint
And I have Yamato battleships, With F-22’s in a runway, With a division of US army
Try to break into my house
*Im just going over the top*
any that’s why I wish I had COVID so when they kill me they get COVID and die and I get my revenge
I would KILL to have an army of pitbulls
Thats why i have an aircraft carrier in my backyard
When the quiet kid says go home:
Ay yo hol up
There was a bullied kid at my school who when I asked if he’d help me find the janitor so I can get my car keys he SHUSHED me and pulled out a ton of keys he made to each door of the school and I read it somewhere years later that it happened to someone else, too. Different school and kid, of course. But I thought of him instantly...
If anything, I learned that’s why you should be nice to people lol
@@shamachelon it happened? What happened?
The man who'd spoken out at the town hall meeting was in an off-handed manner criticizing the previous male victims for not fighting to keep their wives and gf's from being raped. This, more than anything, was what sparked De Angelo to target him. DeAngelo was very much into making the men feel emasculated.
Oh I believe he started to enjoy this fact more than anything else. He then started to target couples who had dogs after someone said oh my dog will be able to stop him or something along those lines.
Well, he would love the pathetic state of today's society then I guess.
@@Ricardo-cl3vs Pathetic? There's more guns than people in the US. I find that pathetic
@@fangirl3086 i don’t think that’s his point lol i believe he means the state of women emasculating men in today’s society would entertain him
As Ballen was telling the story, I suspected that the meeting was held to draw out the killer.
I lived in South Florida when the Tyler Hadley story happened. I grew up in Port Saint Lucie, Florida for a good chunk of my life and knew the exact neighborhood where this occurred. Good choice on that story. Man, your channel is the best! Thanks for all that you do.
Ok so besides his excellent story telling,can we just appreciate this guy for not only searching the stories and pictures but also for his background I just love it!
"He's a coward I'll kick his ass if he ever comes to my house!" Golden state killer: "Aight bet."
If I had teachers like you in school, I would have learnt so much. You explain things exactly how I need them explained, hand gestures and all lol
Learned, not learnt.
@@NomadicNorthwoods Learnt is a word. Looks like grammar patrol needs to do some homework.
For 2 months straight I have been replaying these videos everyday. All day. Very interesting and the way you word things and clarify certain things too. Cause that helps feel like we are in the story in itself. Man I can't thank you enough for your service and videos
I'd heard about these photos and the stories connected with them, but as always Mr. Ballen gives us added details in the backstories we can't get anywhere else. Thanks!
9:33 aaahhh the good ole 90’s when high school still had smoking areas
..and you could get smoked
@Weird Flex 🤚🏽💀
Yup smoking areas , sodas in all the vending machines , and enough bullies to go around to make the 80s seem like child’s play . 90s were great , and that’s not even me being sarcastic weirdly enough . Oh , and EVERYBODY played kickball .
@@pandahsykes602 shit I miss the 90s
@Another Wacko this Weird Flex person is definitely a dramatic Karen, but the "forbidden fruit" concept is nonsense.
Who else can’t stop clicking on every video this man has uploaded
I’m happy I found you late hahaha I check every day for a new post. Love your videos man. I get to watch all of them form the start while I wait for new ones. Wicked.
Guy: *Makes fun of killer while the killer is in the same room*
Killer: You think i’m weak, let's test that-
I grew up in Littleton and went to Columbine! So close to my heart, will never forget that day even tho I had long graduated! My brother was a first responder.
Can’t get enough of this content. It’s consistent and sooo interesting. The delivery is also one of my favs. If I could like these videos more then once ❣️
I am going back and pretty much binge-watching everything and I have to say that MrBallen is just superb story teller! ✌🏻
Plus, there’s no weird pauses, overacting/overreacting, etc. - truly great!
I’d like to talk about Michelle McNamara. She was an author who put basically all of her energy and effort into investigating this case (if I remember correctly, she went to each of the sites of his rapes and murders in order herself). She pretty much worked herself to death over this investigation, and she was one of the big reasons why they caught the guy. It’s a shame she died two years before her efforts fully paid off. Her husband and publisher updated and published her last book, I’ll Be Gone in the Dark (which was about the killer and her search for him), posthumously when the killer was caught.
Thank you for sharing this information!
she was the wife of actor/comedian Patton Oswalt. I believe she took some medicine to help her sleep and never woke up or something along those lines. Left behind a baby girl. So sad.
Also, he says that the Golden State Killer got his name in the 70’s, which is just not true. McNamara named him with her book in the 2000’s!
@@benbiersmith came here to say that. And it wasn’t in her book that she named him, it was on her blog where she dubbed him the Golden State Killer
She doesn’t get enough credit.
aye I’ve been here since, 10k, glad to see you’ve grown so much. bound to hit a mil by the end of this year
Hope so!
MrBallen no need to hope dude you are definitely going to hit one million if you continue like this. You’re a lot of people’s favorite channel including mine! There’s no other channel I check daily to see if they’ve uploaded
The golden state killer was, in my opinion, the scariest serial killer. The night stalker is also up there on the list too!
Look up Isreal Keyes...he's probably the scariest to me.
@@wigglemelon8807 lmao
Look up Albert Fish or Luis Garavito
Or Harold Shipman
Or the Toolbox Killers, in which audio exists of one of their victims.
@@DrStrangefate Omg I've listened to all of their stories 🤢🤮 They were so disturbing
@@wigglemelon8807 I agree with that
Nah Dahmer is the worst of them.
I am completely hooked to these stories... I might need professional help after listening to all these dark and disturbing stories, but hey, it is just to interesting 😂
And the stories kinda take me away from my own problems.
Thank you MR Ballen 😀