Chinese Diesel Heater - Battery Consumption in Ah

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
  • In this video, I try to estimate "accurately" how many amp hours these heaters consume under various usage conditions.
    Many people have been asking what heater I use. It's a really cheap heater and after 3 years and frequent use it still works perfectly, so I thought I would share a link to the exact same unit I have:
    www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...
    If you are running any diesel or gas-powered heater in your van I'd also highly recommend using a Carbon monoxide sensor. This one that shows parts per million seems to work really well! They're pretty cheap, and could save a life!
    www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...
    People have also asked what power meter do I use for these tests. It's this exact same meter, and it seems fairly accurate. You can get better ones, but they cost a whole lot more.
    www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...

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  • @mikeries8549
    @mikeries8549 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's amazing how when you publish any type of technical information ....guys with lab coats and degrees pop out of the woodwork. Simply amazing. 😀

  • @glennclark762
    @glennclark762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    AH this is perfect. Always wondered what the start and shut down times where. This has answered a lot of questions, thanks.

  • @GrumpyGarry121
    @GrumpyGarry121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video, the internet is full of useless or incomplete info, means I can now make a reasonable informed choice of battery amperage. Very clear information!

  • @Levers103
    @Levers103 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent data collection! This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much!

  • @defektor666
    @defektor666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was very informational, good job!

  • @novanut1964
    @novanut1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video, it answered some questions i had after installing my new diesel heater, thanks.

  • @gordonmitchell729
    @gordonmitchell729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information. That answers my question about the battery usage. I'm wondering about buying a power unit and possibly an inverter! Thank you for a great video.

  • @captaindave47
    @captaindave47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks that is very useful, I on occasions run my Propex heater it's like the diesel heaters but runs on gas, that tends to pull my batteries down a bit too and I was wondering about swapping it for a diesel heater but it would probably be no better now I have seen your video.

  • @mariofelix3399
    @mariofelix3399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a bit boring and geek style video, but for those who know, like me, it's extremely useful. Thank you for your patience doing this.

  • @stevew9957
    @stevew9957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Really appreciate the effort to produce this video. It's given clear details on the 5Kw diesel heater power consumption during test with the data being used to give best and worst case of battery use over 24hrs.
    It clearly indicates why some owners complain their battery bank is not lasting, especially if it's a few years old and it's cold.

    • @jcardosa02
      @jcardosa02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what battery do you think is best for the 5k diesel heater? i currently have a 12v 200Ah battery but it’s bad and i have to replace it. it’s pretty expensive but if that’s what i will need for the heater then i guess i will get it 😭

    • @stevew9957
      @stevew9957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcardosa02 Do you have a means of charging the battery all the time or are you operating without a regular charging facility ?
      Also what sort of time period are you intending or having to run the heater between charging periods ?

    • @jcardosa02
      @jcardosa02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevew9957 i have 200 watts of solar panel so i’d use that and an isolater so that i can charge it with my van while i am driving !

    • @jcardosa02
      @jcardosa02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevew9957 i believe i will only need to run it for a little bit at night

  • @Merc-Rover
    @Merc-Rover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
    I have a 300Ah battery bank so I should be good for a few days :-D

    • @Mr-Curious
      @Mr-Curious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok so you got a big battery good for you.... ;-p yeah i would imagine that you don't even run it all when you are sleeping. I have a T5 well insulated. With two in bed it around 0°c nice and warm. Only cold when you get from under the sheets.

  • @petecoventry6858
    @petecoventry6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:00 it does - the display shows it again also - thanks for this video interesting to know what they use :)

  • @thelawman
    @thelawman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good well done test, cheers

  • @RVingwithG
    @RVingwithG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great overview ! ! and that there at the end was scary going down that hill! 21:10

  • @snipermx06
    @snipermx06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    From video I seen, the pump should be upright or 45 degree angle to keep air bubble stuck in the pump. Helps the pump. Thanks for the video, this is a huge help

    • @fannyschmeler223
      @fannyschmeler223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For air to escape from pump !!

    • @staritpro1775
      @staritpro1775 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best angle for pump is about 35 degrees with the output end up (usually where the power connector is) as it needs to lubricate the pump and get rid of air bubbles.

  • @scottlawson1800
    @scottlawson1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video, thanks for doing this! I would estimate a mid point between 17°C and 35°C (26°C) would probably end up using roughly ~3 Ah using these numbers. Maybe even a bit less if the heater could reach maintenance mode, and good insulation

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've been working from the van over the last week. Finding running it in Hz mode is better, just ticking by at 1.6hz uses a constant current and battery is lasting better. May do a follow up if I have time...

  • @simonbertioli4696
    @simonbertioli4696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen these heaters recently...and seem of interest...
    Great video with nice clear explanation..
    Maybe you could advise more on the heaters available..ie good ones and stay clear ones..
    Only if can..
    Thanks
    Simon in Spain

  • @Fromatic
    @Fromatic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very useful, this makes me think when I install one I'll leave it on lowest Hz setting rather than temperature, to make sure on really cold days it doesn't ramp up trying to reach even a low target, but just stays on its lowest fuel/energy usage which should always be enough to keep a small van comfortable enough I imagine

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, it doesn't take much to feel comfortable. Luke warm water feels great when it's frosty outside!

    • @ralph1881
      @ralph1881 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're not running it full heat before shutting down you'll likely have excess carbon build up and premature problems. Run it full blast for 10 minutes before shutting down and clean it out

  • @rabfinn70
    @rabfinn70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video 👍 im going to buy a battery tomorrow so now I know what i need. Cheers

    • @xcentriclithium5467
      @xcentriclithium5467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neat to measure voltage consumption, now read the total ah with a shunt, and get back with us.

  • @alexandregadret
    @alexandregadret 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME! Thank you! Helped a lot!

  • @sekatyoukko69
    @sekatyoukko69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for this informative video 👍

  • @rokadaprliinnysystemyaczno4761
    @rokadaprliinnysystemyaczno4761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thanks for making this

  • @wheater5
    @wheater5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A useful video, clearly explained! I recently fitted a 5 Kw heater in my garage and initially ran it from an old, small capacity car battery, which isn’t in the best of health. I kept the battery topped up with a permanently connected car type “smart” charger. I then decided to buy a 30 Amp mains power supply and run it directly from that. I found one with a display which shows volts and amps. The output can be adjusted from 9 to 15V or switched to a steady 13.8V. I tend to use it at the 12.8V which is the maximum recommended in the heater manual and unlike running from a battery, irrespective of load this voltage is maintained. The current draw varies in exactly the same way as yours does. As you found, the highest load is as expected on start up but similarly high on shutdown. As I understand it, the heater must be allowed to run its pre-programmed shut down sequence so the fan blows at maximum to cool the heat exchanger right down. If this doesn’t happen, heat runs “backwards” towards the inlet end and can overheat the circuit board components.

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hadn't considered how the heat could cause thermal runaway and damage electronics that way. Hopefully an unlikely scenario, but certainly best to always allow proper shutdown. I often run the heater with the engine running and the alternator voltage sitting at 14.4V and it hasn't cause anything to go bang yet (on my particular model). Would expect a little headroom on max voltage. Recently build a diy LIFEpo4 battery at 80Ah to run it and that sits at about 13.4V.

    • @wheater5
      @wheater5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan I’m just going along with the recommendations in the manual that came with my heater with regard to the correct shutdown procedure. I agree that the voltage tolerance should allow for the fact that most vehicle alternators are designed to charge the battery at about 14.5V.

    • @joedunne6737
      @joedunne6737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did the same for my workshop but you have to be careful because in the event of a power cut the heater won't go through the shutdown cycle which could damage the CPU. I would keep the battery connected for that reason.

    • @wheater5
      @wheater5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joedunne6737 Actually, I’ve owned this house since 1988 and I can’t remember the last time there was a power cut here, fortunately they are very rare in this part of the world. Unfortunately, the instructions for the power supply I have specifically state that it’s unsuitable for connection to a battery because it provides a constant voltage (it would boil away the electrolyte). In any case, in the unlikely event of a power cut happening, a new ECU for these heaters only costs about £16 and probably take me about ten minutes to change. So, not really the end of the world.

  • @DavidLaFerney
    @DavidLaFerney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good work! I installed a battery monitor in our RV because I had the same questions and concerns about how long we could dry camp on the existing batteries during an upcoming 16 day trip into the Rocky Mts (USA.) a bit of testing and math made me reasonably confident that what we had would work. And it did.
    Just to be clear - our (2 lead acid) batteries are good for up to three nights in a row. We were able to charge the batteries at least that often with either shore power or the Victron DC/DC charger I’ve installed on our tow vehicle. That’s another story though (spoiler - works Great.)
    The point is this - you need a good battery monitor - otherwise it’s like a car without a fuel gauge - else you never know how much you’re using or how much you have left.
    I used a Victron Smart shunt, but there are others that will work depending on the application. The Victron is great though.

    • @jcardosa02
      @jcardosa02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi may i ask what kind of battery do you have? i am trying to buy a battery to connect to my solar panels(2 100 watt) and get a diesel heater but not sure which battery i will need to buy 😭

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The one I was using was a Halfords branded leisure battery. They are not the best I've had. The upgraded one is a LiPO4 type, but I had it imported from China and made it myself. I don't think you'll find them in stores for reasonable prices yet.

  • @jluke168
    @jluke168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really useful, thanks.

  • @danielfarang8765
    @danielfarang8765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man real world actual data thank you so much.
    This is really helpful as all the other video are like… yes the jackery can power the heater for some time 🙈

  • @Relay300
    @Relay300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very useful 👍

  • @IW4DBX
    @IW4DBX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Under password settings, you can set PF6 to 4 to slightly reduce the glow plug power during start and stop process.
    PF1 to 3 is for 40w glow plug that I've never seen as spare parts

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will reducing the power not increase likelihood of carbon build up. Although sounds very useful if your running on a smaller capacity battery or running low.

    • @David-kd7vl
      @David-kd7vl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never seen pf6 or pf1 on the controller have you a photo of this ?.

    • @omulmodern7663
      @omulmodern7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @larry365
    @larry365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful. Thank you.

  • @davidconner-shover51
    @davidconner-shover51 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if using it in the temp setpoint setting, the power usage will be highly dependent on ambient outside temp. startup burns a bit, about an AH, a bit on shutdown as well.
    max fan seems to draw about 4 amps, min settings seem to pull only 400-500ma

  • @billdoell990
    @billdoell990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. That info helps me with mine.

  • @jamesc6526
    @jamesc6526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing breakdown on battery consumption. I can't wait to see the real world test. I would love to see what kind of fuel usage you get as well (I kinda know what my 5kw uses, but it's straight estimations).

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It drinks about 5 litres in about 30 to 40 hours of constant run at the lowest settings.

    • @petecoventry6858
      @petecoventry6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this IS the real world test!

  • @staritpro1775
    @staritpro1775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best angle for pump is about 35 degrees with the output end up (usually where the power connector is) as it needs to lubricate the pump and get rid of air bubbles.

  • @Brettmlyons
    @Brettmlyons 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Super helpful.

  • @stephentonks2342
    @stephentonks2342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation.. thanks..

  • @joedunne6737
    @joedunne6737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting, thanks for that. It's also crucial to let the heater go through the shutdown mode for another reason. The CPU unit is close to the heater fins and will cook the components if you don't let the heater go through its shutdown cycle.

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely right ! Many folks run the supply from a battery that is constantly connected to a mains fed 'intelligent' trickle charger to contend with power cuts.... no stranger to many who live 'out in the sticks'
      The fully charged battery will give a certain amount of continuity for the heating if the power goes off and I have been told that, as the battery gets emptied, the CPU will sense that the battery voltage is dropping and will initiate a proper shutdown procedure while there is still power available to do so. Can anyone confirm if this is the case please ??

  • @anidamsa4396
    @anidamsa4396 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant. Thank you 👋

  • @fishface6247
    @fishface6247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video!

  • @itsruffoutchea6636
    @itsruffoutchea6636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this is a good video. I love real world test better than oh it uses this much power figure it out yourself. I was surprised it used so little battery power. Looking to switch from propane heating and electric blanket. This uses less power than electric blanket at 3 ah.

  • @laurenceperkins7468
    @laurenceperkins7468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big thing with lead-acid is called the Pieukert Effect. Basically the more amps you draw, the less efficient the discharge gets. Run it hard and you might get as little as 30% of the available power. A tiny load on the other hand may get nearly all of it.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The label is calculated on a fixed load over 20h.

  • @igorbogdanoff4517
    @igorbogdanoff4517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superb. Thanks for this. I've equated that my self contained unit in a peli case, with a 12ah lifepo4 running a 2kw heater will give me three 1hr heating sessions (one session at night before bed, for three nights - three initial starts, 45mins normal usage, and then three shutdown cycles. Should bring the van up to temp before we hunker down for the night - being well insulated the van should maintain a good heat over night with body heat of two people replenishing any that gets lost over night. If we want heat in the morning aswell we'll only get two nights and two mornings, and well have to reduce heating session to 35mins per session. I'm good with that!

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you add a 100W panel to the system you might be able to keep that topped up

  • @kst357
    @kst357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In both scenarios the square footage of the cabin space to be heated will be a factor. With everything being equal such as insulation, the number of windows, and so on, a smaller van will heat up faster than a large one so the heater would theoretically run for shorter periods. I'd like to see an experiment to see what the battery usage would be for different sized heaters to heat up the same amount of space. My guess would be that going up a size would save battery usage but result in more fuel consumption.

  • @garyjones122
    @garyjones122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, very good video.
    Mine is giving off a funny smell, I can't tell if it's a mild diesel fume smell or if it's from new ducting I fitted last week. I think I'll invest in a carbon monoxide alarm like yours to know for sure

    • @braininavatnow9197
      @braininavatnow9197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If its CO you can tell because you will be dead. Have a nice sleep.🤪

  • @d.a.t.4699
    @d.a.t.4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video, thank you!!!

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I appreciate the + feedback!

  • @galaxysquad80
    @galaxysquad80 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!!

  • @shakeynige
    @shakeynige ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this

  • @theworldssexiestman
    @theworldssexiestman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Useful video....surprising to see how many aH that the heater can use in really cold conditions....definitely something to think about. Thanks for putting this video up,
    Jerry

  • @precisiont5188
    @precisiont5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful.

  • @pierrerobert6458
    @pierrerobert6458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent !

  • @petecoventry6858
    @petecoventry6858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah - I got a Ford Freda and it had a KA battery - it got down to -3 and at 12.4V the heater ran out at 3am. I replaced with Lifep04 and a DC_DC charger and now it runs all weekend at 17oc like it did before and I can get a full weekend out of the battery without charging it.

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We really like our Lifepo4. Just spent 2 days away with heater running for over 48 hours, bearly noticed it on the battery capacity

  • @marcandsebe
    @marcandsebe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They certainly do sound noisy. I have purchased an under mount box to put mine under the vehicle.

  • @blumaxx1
    @blumaxx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    U can extract more heat if u put a heat exchanger on the exhaust,,because the exhaust runs about 300-450 degrees Fahrenheit , It will double the efficiency of the heater

    • @travishanson166
      @travishanson166 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I install mine, I will be boxing in the exhaust and putting a heater core in there to heat my coolant in my van to use for block heat. Will use a vw coolant recirculation pump with an arduino pwm speed controller.

  • @whowhoMikeJones
    @whowhoMikeJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know you need the car to start it recommended but once that thing's running in the fan goes low you should be able to run that for a day and a half off the battery 750 cranking amp hours

  • @jonocharles1046
    @jonocharles1046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glowplug fires full at shutdown to burn off soot. Apparently.

  • @mannyfragoza9652
    @mannyfragoza9652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    after my heater Starts up since im running it in Hz it settles down to the last setting i ran it on. so if my last setting in Hz was P3.1 the heater after it Starts up will Default back to that setting 3.1

  • @JuanGoe
    @JuanGoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Dan, thanks fot this great information. Maybee a noob question but you are not mentioning the Amount of Diesel it uses. is this 100% Heating on the Battery without any diesel consumption?

  • @assassinlexx1993
    @assassinlexx1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you wrap the fuel pump in insulation so it doesn't touch anything metal etc.

  • @whitevanman9500
    @whitevanman9500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 2kw are much more economical than the 5kw and still keep a large van nice and toasty the fixing plate is the same size but the actual heater is smaller great Info tho!!

  • @ericdee6802
    @ericdee6802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic tutorial. I have a 5kw Chinese heater which I would like to operate from low (8-10°C) to high (25-30°C) so iam thinking that a 120ah Golf cart battery would be sufficient for operation?.
    Thanks for sharing your video with us.👍✌️

    • @Kryptkeeper911
      @Kryptkeeper911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rule of thumb with lead acid only drain 50%. Or you’ll kill the life span of the batteries. They aren’t meant to be drained to nothing. It will damage the walls in the battery and won’t hold full capacity. But a 12v 120ah battery will run that for 2 days at the least

  • @fannyschmeler223
    @fannyschmeler223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You don't want to have that pump running on a horizontal plane mate, the fuel naturally releases a tiny amount of air as it goes from high pressure to low and that air needs to escape from pump or you will damage it through lack of lubrication. It should be ideally vertical with outlet on top and definitely no less than 45 degrees .

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is at an angle, all good 👍

  • @goranvuletic8873
    @goranvuletic8873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Under password settings, you can set the lowest RPM for the fan to a lower number, I believe it is 1300 RPM. Thus the heater consumes less power when running on its minimum. The only difference is that the device gets a bit warmer.

  • @davidbarry2372
    @davidbarry2372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, great content thanks. If the voltage had been 12.8VDC it would also have had a positive impact on the AH result

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the voltage had have been higher, it would have pulled less amps at that higher voltage. So should have been very close in results, although yes, efficiency would have been slightly better

  • @obiwanfisher537
    @obiwanfisher537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very useful, thanks. I am playing with the thought of getting one for my boat, and consumption is obviously a factor.
    Did anyone tell you that you sound like Moss from the IT-Crowd? :D

  • @nickviner1225
    @nickviner1225 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to put a battery splitter in the car to run the alternator from time to time to boost the heater battery from the car engine?

  • @jimmychafins
    @jimmychafins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d like to see a real world avg. of maintaining a set temp for 24 hours..

  • @PanamaVail
    @PanamaVail 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the heater 10w in a toyota sienna minivan. I use 2 agm 750 car batteries from walmart with a 5 year warranty about $150 each. Longest I have run one battery is 2 nites 2 start ups 2 shutdowns 13hrs 1st nite 9 hrs 2nd nite. I run it low on 1.6 hz. . I stayed very warm only used 1/3 of a gallon. Mountain Biking and skiing. Thinking I can get 4 nites in Telluride out of these 2 agm walmart car batteries.

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds pretty good, avoid taking the batteries down too low (

  • @petecoventry6858
    @petecoventry6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a poweroak to run this 112W on fire up 7W on tick over

    • @glennclark762
      @glennclark762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How have you connected the heater to the poweroak, have you put an accessory socket on the heater wiring? This would be a way better solution for me going forward

  • @velianlodestone1249
    @velianlodestone1249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So given these have like so little PPM, you'd actually be OK theoretically to put exhaust through the main cabin as long as you're not circulating the exhaust...

  • @shakeynige
    @shakeynige ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are going to the mountains are you aware of the alpine setting which slows the pump for higher altitudes

  • @fonso1961
    @fonso1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video explains alot to me, do you have a link for the amp meter you was using.

    • @simonbaxter8585
      @simonbaxter8585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's all over Amazon/ebay, search for watt meter or power meter. I use them all the time in the van, charging ebikes, drones etc. I have 2 so that I can check on input/output simultaneously on buck/boost systems. Also works on solar panels (until it gets dark!) Creates a lot of certainty/confidence that you are not doing something ridiculous.

    • @fonso1961
      @fonso1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonbaxter8585
      Thanks I managed to get one the same as yours works a treat,

  • @manvanross
    @manvanross 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Correct me if I’m wrong. In hertz mode and set at the lowest output, it SHOULD draw in the 20ah range regardless of other variables like temp and insulation? You just may freeze your knickers off...

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I believe to be the case, but I've not tested it in the field.

  • @MrHidibo
    @MrHidibo ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to run the heater from a 3 cell lipo battery

  • @andrebombardier3021
    @andrebombardier3021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, thanks for this informative video. Is the heater controller wireless ?

    • @garyreed354
      @garyreed354 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it has a remote fop u can use

    • @AndreasEUR
      @AndreasEUR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, but as Gary here said, you can get a remote.
      Make sure it's the two-way remote so you can see info on the remote.

  • @nixonsmateruby1
    @nixonsmateruby1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What most people.want to know is what old plug in our home we can connect instead of big batteries.

  • @sterogerson4177
    @sterogerson4177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Start your van get the heaters on then use small heater for maintenance

  • @akz247365
    @akz247365 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello mate, thank you for this video. How long does a small sized leisure battery last for? I'm not sure if it's the battery that's gone but the fuel has stopped pumping

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My old 110Ah lead acid used to last about 24hours with outside temp below 5C.. less with TV and lights on. Since upgrading to 300Ah Lifepo4 battery it'll run best part of a week

    • @akz247365
      @akz247365 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan ok thank you, my battery has just rant out I think... It just started slowing down and stopped. Thank you, didn't realise it would go after 48 approx hours

  • @vittoriocas
    @vittoriocas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting and complete video!
    I have a question: I'd like plug my 5kw diesel heater to my LIFEPO4 battery which has a car cigarette port at 12v 10A (max 120W). I see the heater at the startup goes higher than 10A only for 10-12 seconds (it reaches 10.72A in this video), so would it be possible to plug it into my battery?
    Regards.

    • @OffTheBeatenPath_
      @OffTheBeatenPath_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't recommend that. If the fuse blows, you could cook your circuit board and/or damage the unit if it didn't shut down properly. Although it *might* work

    • @aussiecue
      @aussiecue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to wire the heater direct to the battery. Knock that cig plug out by accident when its running and it's toast

  • @terrellstewart4071
    @terrellstewart4071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the real world usage of my heater some time b4 morning it shutdown and got real cold the battery was to low. Two batteries will work and a solar panel to charge one while you use the other but I'm interested in your real world use results plus I had a brand new 100ah lead acid battery now I'm concidering a 12v power converter to assist the power use

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We upgraded to a LiPo4 battery, they give far more amp hours compared to lead

  • @jonathanrood2912
    @jonathanrood2912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So seems like I'd be safe to say I could run the 2kw model in my 8 ft truck bed for an 6-10 HR overnight sleep on a 35ah battery with no problems right?

    • @stevejeffrey11
      @stevejeffrey11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it seems to use up to 8 amps starting up, but then way less

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My heater only have it on for 10 minutes then off for half hour. So battery should last long time. At night set timer to come on couple of times to take chill off.

  • @leeh.4729
    @leeh.4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you I've been trying to get a time frame for my battery I will have solar panels to help keep battery charged in day light so a 100 ah battery should work for my RV. We're did you get the amp meter?

    • @simonbaxter8585
      @simonbaxter8585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's all over Amazon/ebay, search for watt meter or power meter. I use them all the time in the van, charging ebikes, drones etc. I have 2 so that I can check on input/output simultaneously on buck/boost systems. Also works on solar panels (until it gets dark!) Creates a lot of certainty/confidence that you are not doing something ridiculous.

    • @jcardosa02
      @jcardosa02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. i was thinking of doing the same thing. occasionally i will run my fridge but since it’s cold i don’t think it will need to be on much. do u think this will work? i will have 200 watts of solar panel. will 100ah battery be ok?

    • @leeh.4729
      @leeh.4729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine has been working fine. I don't have it on all the time but now that the temperature is dropping in low 30s I turn it on for about 3 hrs. and it never drops below 12.4

  • @tim1299
    @tim1299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am adding a low voltage shut down for the fuel pump and it is rated at 2 amp max.
    Do you know the amps for the fuel pump alone? Thanks

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's hard to say, it is a very short pulse, but I'd image its a lot more then 2 amps for the few milli seconds that it gets energised for.

  • @toneault7499
    @toneault7499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    and you use 3.2 litres in 24 hours on a none stop run. we use two to heat the bungalow. one each end
    running on heating oil at 39p per litre . if it helps

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to use these to go off grid. Thanks for the info. A project for the future maybe

    • @toneault7499
      @toneault7499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan fyi.. you can use heating oil. as well and that's even cheaper

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toneault7499 indeed, I like to mix a little engine oil in with it to help recycle it. I realise this will probably kill the glow plug, but give me a reason to open it up and tinker if it does :)

  • @montygti16v11
    @montygti16v11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What battery was this please
    As I have a 135ah lead acid leisure battery will I be struggling or be ok

  • @Ra-zor
    @Ra-zor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shame you didn't measure everything while in Hz mode as temperature mode varies the motor and pump speed and thus the current used where as fixed Hz mode uses a universal fixed amount on all 5kw and 8kw heaters (and those 2kw heater that are actually 5kw ones!) dependent on the Hz rate set. Still, a good rough guide for startup and shutdown usage though...

    • @wheater5
      @wheater5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it’s of any interest, my 5 Kw heater pulls about 0.6 Amp (at 12.8V) once it’s settled down. That’s about 7.7 Watts.

  • @Gapri3474
    @Gapri3474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very in depth test. Awesome

  • @3genac
    @3genac 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does your controller have a glow plug icon? At ~7:00 when amps spike and glow plug engages during shutdown sequence, I didn't notice any indication on controller. The glow plug reëngages at shutdown to burn off residual fuel.

  • @juliogonzo2718
    @juliogonzo2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trying to decide between one of these heaters or a 1000 running watt generator/850w space heater as a survival device in case my work truck breaks down in -30°c. It is diesel and has three batteries so as long as it's not a charging system related break down I could run it for a while. If I have no batteries it sounds like my little 24ah lifepo4 battery won't run it for long. Thinking the generator/space heater might be the more reliable option. (If it starts lol) 20L of gasoline would last a long time. Could easily be 12 hours before they notice I'm missing and find me. Lots of desolate roads with no comms here

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Near us, everywhere is very populated, so I wouldn't run a generator as it would upset others. If I were many miles from civilization, I might run one. But to be honest, for survival, some of the modern sleeping bags have very good thermal properties and a hot water bottle would keep you alive if the stove would work. At -30C you might run into trouble with diesel and batteries!

    • @juliogonzo2718
      @juliogonzo2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan sometimes I go to places where I can drive 100km an not see another vehicle. I drive a tow truck (or recovery truck as I believe you guys call it) in a sparsely populated part of Canada. If I get sent out in the middle of the night nobody will notice I am missing till morning as my dispatcher immediately goes back to bed after waking me up to do a call. If I'm 3 hours away it could be a long time before anyone finds me. It's never happened yet but it worries me that it might. I actually have a 2.2kw little inverter generator but it is too big to keep in the cab and I doubt it would start well below -30 unless I heated the engine block with a propane torch. I'm trying to decide my best option for 12+ hours of emergency heat

    • @juliogonzo2718
      @juliogonzo2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan I could build a lean-to and camp fire but I'm lazy and would rather heat the cab of the truck :)

  • @xdmatt1320
    @xdmatt1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much fuel did it use ?

  • @chrisbenedict4927
    @chrisbenedict4927 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what would the lowest amp hour battery it would take to have for it to work properly?

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  ปีที่แล้ว

      How long is a bit of string? How long do you want it to work for. I have a 280Ah LiFePo4 pack now. Runs it for about 4 or so days without any charging. I also have far better insulation now which helps

  • @marcass100
    @marcass100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love yo have a diesel heater instead of gas heater but the power and fuel consumption over 24 hours is just too much and its just because it never turns off. Plus no automatic control over temperature. It would just keep heating up even on a low setting.

  • @librab103
    @librab103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice power consumption data. I just bought a 5KW model and plan on using it only 8-12 hours a day most days. My only question/concern is fuel consumption and how long a 10L jug will last before I have to refill it. I cannot wait to install the heater and start using it. Cheers mate

    • @meansled
      @meansled 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a 5k heater and I got about 32 hours 2.5 gallons 10 L

    • @user-rx7gr3mg5g
      @user-rx7gr3mg5g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What capacity battery did you use and how often did you need to charge it

    • @librab103
      @librab103 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-rx7gr3mg5g I have a 300A 12V battery bank. It is charged daily by the sun and when I drive

  • @Andronicus88
    @Andronicus88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    first thing on the manual when I unboxed my 5kw heater says it is unsuitable for constant use! I'm pretty sure these things aren't designed to be used for 23 hours consecutively, in a real life situation would one would be switching the heater on a couple of times in the day for 3 or 4 hours at a time, similar to what you'd have your central heating set to in a house. The other info was useful though thanks

    • @librab103
      @librab103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many people have said that it is actually more economical and better for your AC unit to run constantly especially for gas units because like these parking heaters, once the system gets past its startup the only thing that is running is the fuel pump which can handle a few million "ticks" before wear and tear and a fan that usually has over a 10k hour life depending on model.

    • @Andronicus88
      @Andronicus88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@librab103 OK, I'll still be sticking to the Manual tho 😂

    • @librab103
      @librab103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andronicus88 What is a manual?

    • @Andronicus88
      @Andronicus88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@librab103 the instructions that come with the heater 😜

    • @meansled
      @meansled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mine has been running nonstop since December 5th. 🤷🏼‍♂️(2020) update it’s still running 1/25/21

  • @user-rx7gr3mg5g
    @user-rx7gr3mg5g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bit late to the party here.... I've got a 100ah 20hr leasuire battery. I'm planning on running it for around 10 hours on a low setting. Will I get 2 days use out of the battery or will it need charging daily?

  • @3genac
    @3genac 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you subject that Status alarm to cold temperatures? I paid 100 USD for a brand that purports to survive to -13C, which I need in the Rockies. Did I waste my money?

  • @BigB1974
    @BigB1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hook us up with a link to that power meter. Brand etc..

    • @CymenVig
      @CymenVig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can find them on eBay, AliExpress, etc. Here is one on AliExpress:
      FT08 RC 150A High Precision Watt Meter and Power Analyzer w/ Backlight LCD electric analyzer
      www.aliexpress.com/item/32746253460.html
      But that is just one seller -- there are more.

  • @Chris_at_Home
    @Chris_at_Home 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you have a better battery and you maintain a higher voltage your current draw will probably be less.

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That it will, but nearly all batteries will sag in voltage level with a 10amp load on it.. only time you'll see a level over 12.2v is if the engine is running or you have a few batteries in series.

    • @fannyschmeler223
      @fannyschmeler223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan parallel !!

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fannyschmeler223 oh yes, my typo!

  • @Wozza1534
    @Wozza1534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I run my 5kw heater with a 13.8 volt supply from a bench top power supply?

    • @DanSohan
      @DanSohan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem if it can provide enough amps for the glow plug and startup. I heard some like to use a small 12v and bench supply together. I think if the bench supply can do 10amps that should work.

    • @Wozza1534
      @Wozza1534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanSohan thanks buddy, yes it is a 15 amp supply so should be cool, much appreciated

  • @asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791
    @asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't afford more than a self-built 100Ah battery so I reckon I'll just go with a thick sleeping bag rather than a heater.

    • @leeh.4729
      @leeh.4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do both run heater before to get sleeping bag and inside area warm then shut it down in the morning start it back up ,the inside area gets warm get up get dressed, shut it down. I've got 2 100 watt panels and one battery and it stays charged and it never has dropped below70% if it is really cold I can leave it on all day and still keeps battery full I've got the all in one unit and move it from rv to tent. Wish I had the money to buy more.

    • @adammcneill8637
      @adammcneill8637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      have you thought about having the engine running while it heats up then turn it off when the amps go low? you should be fine for many hours if you do that

    • @johnboy4067
      @johnboy4067 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put a split charging system in you van , problem solved

  • @rhodrilazarus8385
    @rhodrilazarus8385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this be wired up to a van's starter battery?

    • @johnstarkie9948
      @johnstarkie9948 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but it would be a bad idea.
      If you flatten your starter battery you won’t be able to start your van!
      In principle, use your starter battery for starting only.