Why Huge Metal Plates Are on SO Many Songs (reverb machines)

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  • @Reverb
    @Reverb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7158

    Rob, let us sing you the song of our people.

  • @privatevoidnoname7421
    @privatevoidnoname7421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    46:15
    "sees a pluckable object"
    Rob: D J E N T

    • @Gruncival
      @Gruncival 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I just started this video, scrolled down while listening for a minute, and went aghast that I just clicked on a 53-minute video without realizing it until I see your timestamp.
      Welp, it *is* Rob Scallon, so I guess I'm just not going to go back to working for the rest of my shift.

    • @privatevoidnoname7421
      @privatevoidnoname7421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Gruncival been there done that eh

  • @walterblack1543
    @walterblack1543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +579

    Wow, it’s amazing that Jim is not only a reverb expert, but a reverb expert as well. Fair play

    • @divertinguincp
      @divertinguincp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      XD

    • @SKKhandokar1
      @SKKhandokar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i upload music song

    • @swampdog1592
      @swampdog1592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣😆😂🤘🏼✌🏻👊🏻👊🏻

    • @somberyu
      @somberyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Reverb expert

    • @yeti4269
      @yeti4269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He really does it all.

  • @fngoodmusic78
    @fngoodmusic78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2061

    Someone needs to reupload this, but every time someone says “reverb” the reverb gets more intense

    • @8thlvlMage
      @8thlvlMage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      After the 15th time the whole video just sounds like being in a pool, inside an opera house, surrounded by metal plates, suspended on springs, while inside a tornado.

    • @dalekay9ine
      @dalekay9ine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@8thlvlMage bring it on!

    • @dalekay9ine
      @dalekay9ine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This is an amazing idea. I'd do it right now if I had the ability.

    • @Oakshield2
      @Oakshield2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@8thlvlMage 15th? Maybe earlier

    • @sketjtheinkle8268
      @sketjtheinkle8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      it just gradually decends into earrape, especially when the actual reverberated guitar happens.

  • @ivyssauro123
    @ivyssauro123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    1:59 I can attest to that as a violin student, a violin on a dry room sounds like a depressing whisper, on a reverby room (Not just the exagerated ones like a church but a good sized room) it's loud and imposing.

    • @hammerth1421
      @hammerth1421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That is also true for modern vocal recordings. The sound is recorded so dry that it sounds like absolute crap, no matter how good the singer is. Then the audio engineer switches on the effects chain which includes reverb and delay and it sounds amazing.

    • @snickpickle
      @snickpickle ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I play string bass (started out on violin, though). And for some reason, a gymnasium amplifies a string bass like tenfold! Hard to hear myself when playing in a concert band. But then in the gymnasium we used to play in, I would actually have to play quieter, because of this! (And the reverb on the string bass ruled! 🙂)

  • @Fleetw00d
    @Fleetw00d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    12:29 - The smirk on this guy's face when he realizes what he needs to do lol, no hesitation either

  • @zaneroote5798
    @zaneroote5798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1744

    rob: *moves amp by millimeters* must be broken
    jim: nah it's not broken look. *punches amp*
    *_s p r i n g s e i z u r e_*

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      *laughs echoing in garden hose*

    • @mermetalbard
      @mermetalbard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I just love the deadpan delivery
      "I thought it was broken"
      _flick, _*_WHACK_*

    • @42pyroboy
      @42pyroboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tshow I fixed my xbox

    • @SKKhandokar1
      @SKKhandokar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i upload music song

    • @42pyroboy
      @42pyroboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SKKhandokar1 I uploaded a dead crow

  • @cseguin
    @cseguin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I remember when my first band went into a friends basement studio to record for the first time on a reel to reel (in the mid-80s). . . he didn't have any extra decks or affects so we did all the vocals standing in the bathtub to get the natural reverb - it actually worked out good enough to get our stuff on the local university radio station . . .

    • @jtorola
      @jtorola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Paul McCartney used to practice in his dads bog for the same reasons.

    • @pocketpicker6613
      @pocketpicker6613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Got any recordings man?

    • @jtorola
      @jtorola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pocketpicker6613 he talked about it during his carpool karaoke bit

    • @cseguin
      @cseguin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pocketpicker6613 Unfortunately - all of my memories from those days are gone . . . lost years ago, the story is too long to explain.

    • @pocketpicker6613
      @pocketpicker6613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jtorola I should've been more specific. I was addressing the OP.

  • @iamgerg
    @iamgerg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    Fun fact... The blaster sound in Star Wars was basically spring reverb... They used a hammer on a guy wire.

    • @unsoundmethodology
      @unsoundmethodology 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I grew up out in the boonies of southern Idaho - one of my solo amusements was making blaster noises on the guy wires holding high-tension electric line poles in place.

    • @aaron-bieber
      @aaron-bieber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Strongly recommend this podcast episode about all of those sounds and their origins: www.20k.org/episodes/pewpew
      Great podcast all around if you like audio.

    • @gorillafunk725
      @gorillafunk725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Motown records first "reverb" was indeed the bathroom. There are a few rare records where a flush snuck through.
      EMT also made the best commercial record players in the world. EMT ST 930.
      Still the most advanced rim drive record player in the world. Was tested in Japan against the "best" in the hifi world @ the time. No contest ,the EMT blew all competition into dust & made them look & sound like the sad pretentious plastic toys they are. Designed for continuous play and 20 year life span with flawless fidelity.

    • @88marome
      @88marome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So it wasn't Scandinavian thinn ice skiing?

    • @chrisknoblock
      @chrisknoblock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A cable reverb, interesting.

  • @KungFuMouse
    @KungFuMouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    When I studied Audio Engineering we used the fire escape to create a staircase reverb, by dropping a speaker at the bottom and recording on the top floor.

    • @frankhammer6795
      @frankhammer6795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We did the same when recording background vocals & harmonies for Playground many years ago at SAE when it was in St. Kilda, Melbourne
      1 mic on the level we were recording on,
      and got the softer singers to stand on the upper levels of the fire escape,
      and progressivley moved the louder singers down the fire escape landings to get the right blend,
      It wasn't the only wild & wacky technique used, but the were all fun to play with.
      Apparently Neil Young got a particular guitar sound he liked
      By taping a petrol funnel over his guitar amp speaker,
      and then ran it down several metres of hose that had a mic taped up to the other end
      Reverb is a natural sound, and it's carbon nuetral ;-)
      I say, use it whenever you can

    • @clementinelives
      @clementinelives 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frankhammer6795that is so fucking cool

  • @jeffparker4840
    @jeffparker4840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1699

    Rob.. I think it's cool how your channel has evolved from just making music to showing us a much more in-depth and very cool side of musical history. You got a LOT of original content here man.. it's it's fn quality.

    • @gramursowanfaborden5820
      @gramursowanfaborden5820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      i'm no fanboy but i honestly can't imagine why anyone doesn't like this guy.

    • @runestomper1519
      @runestomper1519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Watching these videos really remind me of why I started playing guitar and working on music. That passion is very real.

    • @owennorsworthy6763
      @owennorsworthy6763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My man over here speaking the truth

    • @RichardBronosky
      @RichardBronosky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wanted to give this comment a thumbs up, but I didn’t want to break the perfect 666.

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RichardBronosky Feel ya.. but even the thought of such a shameful act, is all in the past now!😉

  • @Podcastage
    @Podcastage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    This is going to be great.

  • @YingwuUsagiri
    @YingwuUsagiri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    12:26 has to be one of my favourite deadpan deliveries EVER xD

  • @juptonstone
    @juptonstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Rob, I'm an old guy, I've seen a lot, and what I love about you is that you remind me in some ways of Frank Zappa. Not the crazy part, but the musician part. Zappa could play almost any instrument and you have that same kind of love of and fascination with music! You love every aspect of it, you don't just want to play guitar... you want to learn everything about everything. You don't want to just play an electric guitar you want to know everything about every type of guitar and you want to help other people understand that too. Without a doubt you run the absolute best guitar channel on TH-cam. I watch others and some of them are great for specific things like how to repair a guitar, or the best comparisons, but for overall knowledge I love to watch your channel. It's never boring. It's always fascinating, and I've sat through really long videos which seem to go so quickly that I was amazed. So whatever you do please don't stop!

  • @hexane360
    @hexane360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    I'm generally pretty skeptical about the difference between "authentic" physical effects and their digital companions, but I have to admit that there's something incredible about the simple sound of that plate reverb. As a materials scientist, it makes me quite interested in the properties of the steel, the transducer, etc. that makes such a unique impulse response.

    • @JB-fh1bb
      @JB-fh1bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Also makes me curious about the effect of the length and arrangement of the metal “crystals” with the current metal fabrication techniques

    • @JB-fh1bb
      @JB-fh1bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And also now that I remember: cryo hardening!

    • @codiefitz3876
      @codiefitz3876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugh.

    • @CommonApathy
      @CommonApathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The plate isn't perfect, can't be.
      The digital reproduction of reverb can be perfect, but you could program in some imperfections, but there's going to be a wide gap between the two.
      I think it's like the "warmness" in Vinyl, it's due to random imperfections of the material and reading of the material that's very hard to get right digitally.
      I'm sure you could get close with a very weird and very convoluted process, maybe even a neural net trained on an actual plate, but it's just so much easier to use a big old plate.

    • @magnusdagbro8226
      @magnusdagbro8226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@CommonApathy still people can't tell the difference in blind tests. So there isn't any meaningful difference.

  • @BraindeadCRY
    @BraindeadCRY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    50 minutes of Rob just massively nerding out over vibrating springs and plates?
    Yes please and thank you very much!

    • @filiphron3147
      @filiphron3147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My procrastination 100% approved by boss.

  • @dogbatter563
    @dogbatter563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    I’m watching a video about reverb with a guy from reverb in a large room, making the audio reverberate. The ultimate reverberation

    • @Jonah_Ridgely_Music
      @Jonah_Ridgely_Music 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You sir, have officially won the internet with this single comment.

    • @Jay-st6sl
      @Jay-st6sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unlimited reverb

    • @Leo-fq3sx
      @Leo-fq3sx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reverberation

    • @crassinimusic744
      @crassinimusic744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cursed

    • @donotoliver
      @donotoliver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and im vibing

  • @ArrogantDan
    @ArrogantDan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    "Reverb is the ultimate shaper of vibe; it IS the vibe of what you're listening to."
    As a drummer, my cymbals would like a word.

    • @brandon_stargrave
      @brandon_stargrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      You mean your circular reverb plates? :)

    • @ArrogantDan
      @ArrogantDan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@brandon_stargrave Holy shit, you're right

    • @Ozmandius
      @Ozmandius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Let's face it. You're a glorified complicated metronome.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Drum machines might have no soul. But they also never fuck my girlfriend

    • @experimetalfan8851
      @experimetalfan8851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I already told you I'm sorry@@Ottophil

  • @SirPrizeMF
    @SirPrizeMF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    2 and a half minutes in my mind is already blown. I love how you go into these things kinda blank and let the knowledge wash over you. You're also incredibly apt at both finding the right people to explain these concepts and asking the exact correct questions to nudge it out of them.
    Also on topic: I once accidentally drank an entire bottle of vanilla flavoured rum and ended up playing my guitar on the toilet and it sounded amazing. Always thought it was the rum, but now I'm gonna retcon that into attributing it to the reverb.

  • @JetBob84
    @JetBob84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is an INCREDIBLE piece of work, man...you ask the right questions, do the right "experiments". THANK YOU!! I'm an Aerospace Engineer/Physicist that is amateurishly dangerous with music and hardware...and you have exposed the heart of the reverb subject: physics of waves, and using electrical signal processing to fu$k with it in such cool, expressive ways. You weave the thread of history perfectly with this line of thought. Wow. I'm jealous of the fun you had!!😁🤓😁🤓

  • @timterwan
    @timterwan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    "once I start playing guitar, I could be here for 28 hours"
    Dude really got a thing for the number 28

    • @cobalt._.27
      @cobalt._.27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Texas.

    • @jae_lee-
      @jae_lee- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Texas.

    • @RobFlaxMusic
      @RobFlaxMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, it is a perfect number.

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cobalt._.27 What? plz develop.. : )

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jae_lee- What? plz develop.. : )

  • @DooMedSean
    @DooMedSean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    I'm a sheet metal worker, mostly making and hanging ductwork, but whenever I get my hands on a flat piece of sheet metal I always ripple it to make the noise. It's crazy how many different noises or reverbs you can get from different sizes of metal and the amount of ripple you put into it. This all of course without instruments, they add a whole nother level.

    • @chaoticlogic588
      @chaoticlogic588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here. Work with sheet metal making aerospace parts. A nice piece of thin stainless is so much fun.

    • @SKKhandokar1
      @SKKhandokar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i upload music song

    • @valvenator
      @valvenator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My basement has galvanized ductwork for the furnace/AC units.
      Very sensitive to certain frequencies of percussive or explosive sounds like shouts or hand claps.
      Makes for a really cool huge snare reverb.

    • @SebastianWoodard
      @SebastianWoodard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean HVAC worker? We always made our own plenums and ducts. But yeah I think we all do when we get some sheet metal

    • @JB-fh1bb
      @JB-fh1bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can you convince your boss to let you attach actuators to them and upload the videos to TH-cam “for marketing”?

  • @nicbrownable
    @nicbrownable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I have worked in a studio with a 12 foot long spring reverb unit. It had 4 springs inside of different lengths/properties, and you could mix between them. The studio also had a corridor down the back of the main room with sliding doors along it so you could customise the room reverb. It was a former TV studio, so they would have been used to add atmosphere to scenes.

  • @voornaam3191
    @voornaam3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I remember one of my friends, who created the very first audio plugin for reverb. Not on his own, another nerd helped him writing the code. He has a small studio, and to his surprise his audio software had a number of plugins, except a reverb. Brilliant guys, never giving up, and giving their plugin away. For musicians living on a tight budget, public domain software is such a good thing.

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for the likes. But the real guys who deserve likes, have posted this video here!

    • @ShellyTheSeal
      @ShellyTheSeal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Artists who freely share advice, technology, and techniques are the foundation of the world

  • @fleetfingers
    @fleetfingers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I learned from Rick Beato that the guitar sound on Van Halen I was recorded as the guitar's dry signal panned hard to one side, and the reverb panned hard in the other, and this is one of the reasons the single guitar track sounds as full as it does. Very cool video, Rob, as always.

    • @bryandraughn9830
      @bryandraughn9830 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That, and Eddie's awesome approach to rhythm.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    When he casually switched on the reverb tank and pounded on it. 😂
    Spring + Plate at the same time reminds me of the cave parts of “2112” by Rush.

    • @Dragobot7
      @Dragobot7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See i was getting 2112 from just the plate, but im also listening through phone

    • @WilliamTanaka
      @WilliamTanaka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What can this strange device be.
      It really sounds close

    • @SKKhandokar1
      @SKKhandokar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i upload music song

    • @mrlarrybobjr
      @mrlarrybobjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought of rush also instantly when I heard these sounds, an epiphany even, ah that’s how they did it.

  • @AjisDayat
    @AjisDayat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    0:12
    "It gives those sounds, space"
    Or what a cultured person say
    "𝐴 𝑀 𝐵 𝐼 𝑂 𝑈 𝑁 𝐶 𝐸"

    • @YoSoyNajera
      @YoSoyNajera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A M B I O U N C E

    • @irakliiremashvili5190
      @irakliiremashvili5190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Kmac reference?

    • @RemstageMusic
      @RemstageMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      This tone is essential for when you PLAY MUSIC

    • @YoSoyNajera
      @YoSoyNajera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RemstageMusic *proceeds to play while sounding like a radiator*

    • @BenDover-uy9zg
      @BenDover-uy9zg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ambience, is how a cultured person SPELLS it...

  • @mobianproductions
    @mobianproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    53 minutes? No way I can watch all of that!
    *Watches the whole thing*
    I NEED TO BUILD A PLATE REVERB IN MY BASEMENT NOW.

    • @8thlvlMage
      @8thlvlMage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm hoping my downstairs neighbors will let me build a big plate and keep it in their living room for my reverb needs.

    • @ingnerds
      @ingnerds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only McMaster sold 4x8 sheets of steel... All I can find are 4x4.

    • @SarahRWilson
      @SarahRWilson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already acquired a pallet of the right ratios. And have just about everything else. Just need to put it all together. Probably be able to drive it with a pair of 6AU6s...lol

    • @mrlarrybobjr
      @mrlarrybobjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started building mine too…

  • @djduane07
    @djduane07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve known about “plate” reverbs all my life but never SAW one or really understood how they worked. Thanks! In the mid 70s the singing group I travelled with carried a 4 foot tall “spring” reverb. Touch it, and it sounded like a bomb had gone off!

  • @wtf123560
    @wtf123560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    When I was a young kid, my grandparents had a new 1966 Mercury Monterey that had a spring reverb for the radio from the factory. It was turned on or off by a floor switch next to the headlight dimmer switch. If you turned it on and drove over a rough road the springs would pop and twang through the speakers. I was fascinated by the sound effect. I have never seen another installation like it since.
    I love that some artists are going back to the old school electromechanical effects. Some things just can't be reproduced by computers.

    • @danielnelson4881
      @danielnelson4881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much for sharing this! That's so dang cool...

    • @matthewmcree1992
      @matthewmcree1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Who would ever have guessed that an old car radio would have a 100% analog (and obsolete but awesome) spring reverb? Thanks for sharing! You only learn these specific kind of random things through people sharing their experiences from the past, there's no other way any of us would ever have learned about a 1966 Mercury car radio's reverb function!

  • @MrReeTart
    @MrReeTart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    Room reverb - 3d
    Plate reverb - 2d
    Spring reverb - 1d
    Wow

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Gets me thinking about the challenges of doing reverb for game development, where you're trying to recreate an environment without melting the player's CPU.

    • @yeti4269
      @yeti4269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Roxor128 Probably a factor towards the push of multithreading CPUs and almost a norm of 8 cores

    • @michaelmoore8680
      @michaelmoore8680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would that make using all of them at the same time or looped together 6D.??

    • @prodevus
      @prodevus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Calculating reverb would be much more efficient on the GPU instead of multithreading it on the CPU. John Lin has implemented a ray-tracing style reverb in his voxel game that he's working on, this guy works for NVidia or Epic or something. Check out his youtube.

    • @colinschulte9699
      @colinschulte9699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelmoore8680 i think you just get 3d reverb pro max

  • @ARSZLB
    @ARSZLB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    31:32 why did the cameraman urging Rob to face the camera with just one finger make me laugh so hard hahaha

    • @mmadsen8210
      @mmadsen8210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to search the comments for someone mentioning that lol

  • @ossyhoff
    @ossyhoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This was really interesting and entertaining 👍 Jim seems to be mixing the words "mechanical" and "analoge" as a signal can be completely analoge while staying electronic. Digital is when the ones and zeroes enters the building 👍

    • @beachton
      @beachton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I came here looking for this comment.

    • @ossyhoff
      @ossyhoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beachton good to see I'm not the only one 😁

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everything except the actual waves in air are analogies to sound. Wether it is electric, mechanical, magnetical or numerical is secondary. Digital is analog.

  • @mal2ksc
    @mal2ksc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You need your own coffee table reverb. It's just like one of the big plates, except smaller and laid horizontally when in use so you can put your feet on it and manipulate the reverb while you play guitar. Then slap a tabletop on it for protection when not in use, unless you want to stand it up on end and store it that way.

  • @DuhonTattoos
    @DuhonTattoos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I really love how Rob is doing Bill Nye type videos for musicians. I absolutely love this content.

    • @michaelmoore8680
      @michaelmoore8680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the fact that he doesn't act like Bill Nye.

  • @AissurDrol
    @AissurDrol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love this guy's energy. He's so fun and happy to be there.

    • @DCsk8rgoelz
      @DCsk8rgoelz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The two of them are so perfect together.

    • @valvenator
      @valvenator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even though I knew most of this, watching them talk about it made me feel like a kid again re-discovering all this cool stuff :)

  • @DecisionAvoidant
    @DecisionAvoidant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This type of content, this "history and mechanics of effects you know and love", is soooo interesting. Please make more of these! This helps me as an amateur audio engineer to use these effects better and more intentionally.

  • @mdhj67
    @mdhj67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Saw a stratocaster with a pickup mounted below the tremolo springs to get a reverb signal straight from the guitar. It worked!

  • @spiercephotography
    @spiercephotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    God i love these videos where you’re exploring different sounds and instruments. It’s so fascinating! I am not a musician but as someone who’s very sound centric these are heaven

  • @elviskeiskiwannstrom8995
    @elviskeiskiwannstrom8995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    "It gives those sounds, S P A C E"

    • @MrCocktaiI
      @MrCocktaiI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thought I was watching an Adam Neely vid for a second

    • @robin4970
      @robin4970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCocktaiI I totally thought the same xD

  • @RuthlessDutchman
    @RuthlessDutchman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    12:20 the comedic timing of *flick* 'BOOM' cracks me up

  • @TheZooropaBaby
    @TheZooropaBaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    wow nobody mentioned that's Steve Albini's studio and Rob is using one of his (or studio's) Wedge guitar, that's so cool forget about reverb I wanna see those archival tapes

    • @needles23
      @needles23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes!!! I was just checking the messages to see if anyone else noticed that. Way more exciting to me than everything else, and everything else is awesome! The alt rock history in that guys hands, and it doesn't get a mention. Crazy.

    • @indigotheindieghost7214
      @indigotheindieghost7214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least a passing mention would've been cool...

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not sure who that is (my music knowledge is terrible), but I did notice the nice Travis Bean. These weren't made for very long or in very large numbers.

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diydylana3151 I'll definitely look him up!

    • @MissLilyputt
      @MissLilyputt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was also looking at those archival tapes wanting to see what’s on them. They looks so abandoned and I wish they wouldn’t leave that to simply rot away. There’s gotta be some interesting stuff recorded there.

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The plate reverb sounds incredible, beautiful and just so authentic. I gotta hear some Midwest Emo with that haha. Awesome episode heard & learned a lot!

  • @Aardcore
    @Aardcore 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I imagine this recording doesn't do the in house experience of it justice; being there LIVE, hearing, and especially FEELING that sound must have been incredible. This is so awesome to see in action the unsung hero of audio recording and fidelity: Reverb. Especially in an analog situation as close as you can get without having to use a large, spacious acoustically efficient environment.
    Absolutely amazing.

  • @sadwhippet
    @sadwhippet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Apart from this being one of the most complete overviews of what reverb is and has been that I have ever seen, I love how giddy everyone is from getting to meet and interact with actual people irl. This inspires, both musically and emotionally. Thank you!

  • @RavencoreLZR
    @RavencoreLZR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love how I could just cross my legs on my desk and recline my chair without any ads disturbing me.
    PS - Jim is awesome. He one of those guys who just loves what he’s doing.

    • @jimtuerk
      @jimtuerk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can’t hide it. Not gonna deny it.

    • @SKKhandokar1
      @SKKhandokar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i upload music song

    • @keithklassen5320
      @keithklassen5320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weird. I have ads.

    • @michaelmoore8680
      @michaelmoore8680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that you've said it. . . I don't remember any annoying ads disturbing this one either.

    • @anthoonius_gabagoolius
      @anthoonius_gabagoolius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got an ad the second I skipped

  • @donl7006
    @donl7006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Seeing him so happy while he's playing made me happy

  • @relentlessmadman
    @relentlessmadman ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My silvertone amp had screen door springs the full length of the speaker cabinate> for the reverb. Made a great voice amp before P.A systems!

  • @visionsofblurr132
    @visionsofblurr132 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stumbled upon this randomly and I am extremely happy that I did. Awesome stuff guys!!!! 🤘😎🤘 Rock On

  • @xaostek
    @xaostek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    that little spontaneous reverb jam session at 40:49 is EVERYTHING to me. i could listen to that for hours.

    • @bakedandsteaked
      @bakedandsteaked 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out dark ambient or isolation ambience.

  • @spudboi2901
    @spudboi2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That light pedal sounds dank as hell! And the moisturiser... man everything about this is cool af!

    • @Daphoid
      @Daphoid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both of those are relatively recent - but agreed - awesome! I was looking at them last week and its great to see them showup here!

  • @muntificator
    @muntificator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Everything from 39:00 onward, with the spring reverbs - 100% Silent Hill Vibes. I want those pedals now.

  • @flyingjewelstudios
    @flyingjewelstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For as informal as this was, it is a very very VERY good video on reverberation with GREAT examples of the differences in reverb and its construction. I recommend this for all guitar players.

  • @kiloband7430
    @kiloband7430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great post. The kids should also know about pre-delay , it's a big part of using plates effectively.

  • @jessereset10
    @jessereset10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh how I missed these videos. These videos are easily my favorite content of yours. I like learning the history and stuff behind things we hear all the time.

  • @richfiles
    @richfiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    19:52 That Vibrato machine is just an experience! The vibing is deep!

  • @thebananamelon5065
    @thebananamelon5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My mom used to be in a church music program and they’d practice in a massive room. And this brought me wayyyyy back to when she used to bring me with her.

  • @bryanjiang
    @bryanjiang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    More of these please! I would love to learn more about these analog effects. Maybe tube distortion, tape delay, man that would be so cool. :)

    • @frankhammer6795
      @frankhammer6795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The old roland tape delay's were so cool, as you can slow the tape speed down after a note to get the delayed sound to slowly drop in pitch as you tweak the speed knob
      Great for eerie sounds!

  • @dangoldbach6570
    @dangoldbach6570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was beyond fascinating! I can see why so many musicians are in the studio " just trying to get the right sound" now. Man does this just scratch the right itch!

    • @snickpickle
      @snickpickle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Recording things is an art unto itself. I am a better musician because I am a recording engineer, and I am a better recording engineer because I am a musician -- and honestly, probably a better recording engineer than musician, but that's another post for another day...

  • @yamanbusmaje
    @yamanbusmaje 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    i was literally relaxing and then 12:31
    im fuckin ded lol

    • @kaguario
      @kaguario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BONK

  • @elkvis
    @elkvis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    He called the company "Accusonics," but its actual name is Accutronics. They started out based in my home state of Wisconsin, USA.

    • @jimtuerk
      @jimtuerk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Appreciate that correction. So close, yet so far.

    • @JellyRollMortal
      @JellyRollMortal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was wondering how long it would take for someone to point that out.

  • @CrashnServers
    @CrashnServers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great interview. So much hands on information. I soaked up every nerdy 🤓 reverb knowledge I never knew I needed. Thanks 😊

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoyed this
    One small nit: there were some absolute statements about analog/digital made that don't generally jive with the definitions. They were more opinion. Corrections:
    - Spring and plate reverb are electromechanical + analog.
    - Bucket brigade chips and reverb/delay/chorus etc based on them are also analog. Spring and plate reverb doesn't have a monopoly there.
    - Digital reverb involves a circuit that samples the audio, processes it digitally, and then converts back to analog audio via a DAC circuit or chip.
    There are tons of analog reverb (and echo/delay) pedals, but also tons of digital ones. They can be analog without a physical spring. Not a huge deal, but you have many folks learning from you while you are learning, so figured I'd try to help clear that up a little. Hope that helps.

  • @mattsnyder4754
    @mattsnyder4754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    12:26 might be the hardest I’ve laughed in my life lol

  • @Zypher13X
    @Zypher13X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Recently picked up guitar and bought Guitar Quest, it is an absolute blast! I’m glad to learn guitar from my favorite music TH-camr

  • @8BitRetroGhost
    @8BitRetroGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Watching the plate reverb while soldering a guitar pedal thinking "I'm gonna need a bigger box."

  • @hudsonbarth5641
    @hudsonbarth5641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time. Would love to see more of these deep dives into audio production equipment

  • @crystalsoulslayer
    @crystalsoulslayer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact: the BBC Radiophonic Workshop made the original TARDIS sound effect by dragging a key over a spring with a few analog effects. They also used analog synth to do many other effects and the soundtrack. Good vibes.

  • @danyoz5016
    @danyoz5016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this video (and its sounds) is beautiful... but can we take a moment to appreciate the cameraman reflex and little finger pushing Rob to face the camera once again? :D

  • @Izzy88izzy
    @Izzy88izzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love how this guy narrates, so passionate and knowledgeable

  • @Eichro
    @Eichro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Imagine if you're at church trying to meditate and pray, and then Rob Scallon comes in, says "space" and leaves

  • @drummingzombies
    @drummingzombies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That part where he uses the faders back n forth with the Spring and plate is absolutely beautiful. The frequencies they accentuate give the reverb a melody of its own

  • @thatonelonelyeagle5398
    @thatonelonelyeagle5398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    31:27 that piece was very beautiful and nostalgic! It sounds so familiar and perfectly captures the feeling of walking alone the stillness of a sunset during a cloudy day in a rural area! Would love to here a full song of that piece!

  • @OMGshinyobject
    @OMGshinyobject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Not me trying to listen to the stuble differences while watching with my phone in a zip lock bag while I have a shower

    • @thomasway0320
      @thomasway0320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You’re just adding more reverb to this video, more reverb the better.

    • @laurencenoble3629
      @laurencenoble3629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why don't you just get a waterproof phone case? I'm worried for your phone

    • @elliejelly8815
      @elliejelly8815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@laurencenoble3629 I don’t even have a case I just bring my phone in the shower raw

    • @everychannel1025
      @everychannel1025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      bruh you guys are way too addicted. Like maybe shower like, by showering. Just live in the moment and do things with intention your life will improve

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@laurencenoble3629 cases are gross, get insurance just in “case”

  • @brandongunnarson7483
    @brandongunnarson7483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The guys: *stars playing the black pedal*
    My tinnitus: "allow us to introduce ourselves"

  • @blazethebassman6335
    @blazethebassman6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    TH-cam doesn’t have a right to copyright strike over Misirlou, it’s an ancient melody.... definitely out of copyright laws there

  • @leviathan0232
    @leviathan0232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly one of the most interesting videos I’ve seen! That external spring unit would be super fun to play with.

  • @17thshard62
    @17thshard62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    23:12, yeah I was surprised at learning that too! I found outabout that after reading how it was difficult to get guitar tones like David Gilmour's on their earlier albums because he used one of the first digital delays and pedal companies like Boss had to track down a surviving unit in perfect condition when making the DD-500.

    • @joshjams1978
      @joshjams1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting…. Hello fellow Brandon Sanderson enjoyer!

  • @Giofergom
    @Giofergom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "You probably don't have access to a cave to record vocal tracks"
    Black Metal Singers be like: Hold my satanic beer

  • @TheChadPad
    @TheChadPad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Light Pedal has sensors at different parts of the spring that read the pattern of the spring vibration at different "nodes". These are sensed optically, and the light affects that I think. Then there's the feedback control, so it's just a whole new ball game with spring reverb. Again, Gamechanger Audio has changed the game

  • @rmo52
    @rmo52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad’s band recorded several sides at Universal Recording in Chicago right after Bill Putnam installed the bathroom reverb. He said Bill was a nice guy and no attitude. A true pro. Thanks for this vid.

  • @kannonmcafee
    @kannonmcafee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me why I loved the sound of my old Fender Deluxe Reverb vintage amp. Great video.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic amp! The Deluxe Reverb and Twin Reverb are legendary.

  • @tinkerwithstuff
    @tinkerwithstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "in the 70s all went digital" - no, he's probably referring to bucket brigade delay lines used for reverbs, among other things. They are a form of sampling, but ANALOG, not digital. Analog voltages get stored by very analog capacitors, no value quantization whatsoever, so, nope, not digital. There are no discrete digits (value quantization) to speak of. A lot of people are confused here, but it's that simple.
    The principle is somewhat related to the Hammond rotating chorus device / scanner vibrato.

    • @JimChamp
      @JimChamp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Completely agree. The way I was taught is that spring reverb and plate reverb are electro-mechanical devices. They are typically also analogue, but in theory you could build a digital electro-mechanical reverb, although not sure why you would want to.
      Analogue effects are purely electronic with no mechanical component, but don't involve any digital conversion. So an analogue delay is typically the bucket brigade device. I don't know that the way I was taught there's any real sampling involved.
      A digital effect, by contrast, does involve converting or sampling the signal into digital form before its processed.

    • @Epic501
      @Epic501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the supposed "expert"s insistence that anything electronic is "digital" was very annoying

    • @roderik1990
      @roderik1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JimChamp They are discrete in time however, so sampling theorem considerations do still apply, and the input and output needs to be low-pass filtered to prevent aliasing.
      And as far as value quantisation goes, at the end of the day physical noise sources and quantisation noise are both just noise. And an analogue system just switches out the latter for the former. (with some further distortion/colouring due to the physics of how the signal is propagated)

  • @todayonthebench
    @todayonthebench 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    As an electronics engineer I can't agree with your reverb friend's statement that almost all reverbs are digital.
    I think what he means is "almost all reverbs are electronic." As in, the circuit element creating the reverb is an electronic circuit, and not a mechanical element.
    But this does not mean that all electronic reverbs are digital.
    Since digital has a fairly narrow definition. That frankly can't be applied to a lot of analog reverb circuits. Be them mechanical or electronic in their nature.
    In the end, the statement "everything that says reverb on it is going to have a spring or it is digital" is just incorrect. Stop calling analog electronic circuits digital.
    It is on par with saying that all recorded audio is effectively morse code, regardless of recording medium.

    • @HJCF0520
      @HJCF0520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is an interesting point.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Speaking in generalities or oversimplifying can be a trap, but in terms of modern music gear (especially guitar amps) he's probably not far wrong. Sure, there's still plenty of analog reverb pedals/effects out there which use discrete components, but most guitar amps either use a spring tank or a DSP chip which provides multiple built-in effects (such as my Vox VT30 which also does amp modelling in combination with a tube preamp stage).

  • @JSS112196
    @JSS112196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Begins watching video unassumingly:
    "...which is over at Electrical Audio"
    *me getting way too excited as a Steve Albini fan*

  • @anamaliify
    @anamaliify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a watch. Great chemistry between you two, and Jim is fascinating!

  • @u_kno_deweiv1744
    @u_kno_deweiv1744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS IS SO GREAT! Please keep making more videos like this! It's so interesting to learn about how music mechanics and history interact.

  • @seemann2401
    @seemann2401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This is THE TH-cam music channel.

  • @brandon_stargrave
    @brandon_stargrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    50:47 "This is how synth music is made, by the way." 💚💜

    • @tylerduncan5908
      @tylerduncan5908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read this exactly at the time in video

  • @buzzcrushtrendkill
    @buzzcrushtrendkill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating. To be overly nitpicky, the reverb pedals are solid state, not digital. Solid state circuits are analog. Digital is converting the analog signal to 1's and 0's, digits. Which becomes software devices.

    • @keithklassen5320
      @keithklassen5320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that some reverb pedals are digital, no? But yeah, most pedals are analog.

    • @buzzcrushtrendkill
      @buzzcrushtrendkill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keithklassen5320 The video spoke of reverb pedals first coming on the market in the 70's being "digital". Yes, in more recent times simulators/emulators are actually digital.

    • @rickc2102
      @rickc2102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most reverb pedals on the market, by far, are digital.

    • @leftaroundabout
      @leftaroundabout 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickc2102 nowadays yes, but in the 70s a digital reverb would have still required a shoebox-sized (if not cupboard-sized) crate full for circuitry. Those early reverb pedals were indeed analogue.
      Though to be fair: these _bucket brigade_ circuits aren't normal “continuous analogue”, but do something you normally find in digital audio: they chop the signal up at some discrete sample rate, but the individual samples are actual analogue voltages in a capacitor, not 0-or-1 number representations.

  • @supremeflex2522
    @supremeflex2522 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love the way the guy with glasses articulates his words, making it so easy to understand and relate to. putting words to thought.

    • @supremeflex2522
      @supremeflex2522 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      like at 28:00 just explains it perfectly

  • @-DILLIGAF
    @-DILLIGAF 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content. Man, I wish TH-cam was loaded with videos of this quality in every regard; historical, educational, context & overall production. Just a great vibe & video all around. Excellent job gents!

  • @HubrisInc
    @HubrisInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fun watching Rob learn about TRVE SVRF by accident

  • @ianmacfarlane1241
    @ianmacfarlane1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found this completely by accident - I'm not a musician, but this was fascinating, and I love the enthusiasm.
    Such an education.

  • @AlanShortySwanson
    @AlanShortySwanson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just the coolest. Thank you so much Rob & Jim & the team. ✌💗

  • @glennk1931
    @glennk1931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video. Very informative. These plates do a fantastic job. Yes they have been used for decades. One of the best examples of reverb, or ambiance, was the 30th Street Studios that Columbia Records used to record during the 50’s, and through the 1970’s. It was an old church built in 1875. According to Mitch Miller, it was perfect. Some of the recordings were “Theme From a Summer Place,” and I Left My Heart In San Francisco.” Especially listening to the ambience of Tony Bennett’s’ voice.

  • @rramosifusp
    @rramosifusp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best ever made doc about reverb! thanks so much Rob, Jim and Greg!

  • @evceteri
    @evceteri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video I have seen this year! thank you for doing this.

  • @sethdallen
    @sethdallen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was AWESOME! Thanks Rob and Reverb.

  • @frogmanofalcatrazblahblahb3757
    @frogmanofalcatrazblahblahb3757 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched your trailer for Guitar Quest.. EPIC!!! Id get the course just to watch you do you. Really enjoy your videos. Rock On 🤘