I had the same problem and in a discussion on another PARKSIDE battery repair video I got the same tip about the BT module, 3.3V regulator and 20 ohm resistor. I used the HT7133 stabilizer, input voltage up to 28V, although only 30 mA. But I measured the board's power draw - when the 3 led charge status indicators were lit, about 12 mA (corresponds to the video here). After 10 seconds the LEDs went off, the draw was approx 5 mA and after another 10 seconds the idle state - approx 70 uA. I haven't found a replacement BT7L module (only different types), but it's not necessary to have it there. It's just not a "smart" battery (perhaps all the better, a component that is not in the device cannot cause a malfunction). I wonder why these BT modules short out so often (it's a pretty widespread problem). I can think of the possibility of a voltage spike on the tool motor going through the stabilizer and causing damage to the 3.3V branch ... Just my reasoning.
You are correct. The brush motor cause a -200 Volt spike when rotating at max speed and then stopped. You can see, concomitantly, two large sparks, one on each side of the motor collector. This is a problem with cheap tools. Whoever designed the smart battery didn't consider the nasty design of the drill. You can save the day with an Y class, 10 nF 1000 V capacitor installed across the motor brushes.
3 yıl garantisi var, aynı sorunu bende yaşadım bana yenisini yolladılar. Yaptığın iş çok iyi saygı duyuyorum ,teşekürler . Benim için Özel alet,edavat gerekli ve de masraflı. Türk atasözü derki "attığın taş ürküttüğün kuşa değecek) 😃
Awesome troubleshooting as always. Many parkside users have issues with smart batteries and now you found solution. Anyway 99.9% of users don't use BT on their tools, it is just making problems. Great work as always my Friend 👏 👏 👏
Nobody wants any kind of Smart connection on their tools. I never used this stupid bluetooth modules And I have lot of tools with this function And maybe 8 batteries. Never conected to any phone - there is simply no reason, why to do that.
Parkside should pay for this troubleshooting xD Heard that many 8ah batteries have that problem(personaly never had). No bluetooth module that could be compatible to replace?
Your hot air gun is either not adjusted to the appropriate temperature or cannot provide the desired temperature. Because during the disassembly process of SMD components, you do the disassembly process before the solder melts completely. This may cause the solder pads on your electronic board to break.
Excellent troubleshooting! Could you try replacing the 7533-1 with a Nisshinbo NJW4184U3-33B-TE2? It's SOT-89-3, 35V and 300mA. Current spec is a little low, but it was the best I could find
in poland they use ap2204 so 0.3a is enough i suppose..., but they say it is more about Vin - which should be about 21V at least for this stabiliser and it is probably voltage that kills the original stabiliser and not current.
But in this case there is a problem in the BT module itself and if I replace with a powerful regulator and I have to replace also with a powerful resistor and then I think it will heat up the BT Module and it will burn.
@@ErCanEverything bt module is not the culprit, it burns first on the way to the microprocessor after the sabiliser fails. You can remove the bt but you need to use good quality stabiliser because then when it fails again, you will fry the microprocessor - no bt to protect it and take away the current. That's why in poland people use transil diodes when the bT unit is removed. If anything fails. it is the transil diode that shuts overcurrent to ground and saves the microprocessor. Without the bt unit on the pcb it is very risky, the bt chip accidentaly plays a protection to the microprocessor. the bt unit burns as first after the 3.3v stabiliser failure. Sometimes it goes so bad that the mp is burnt also, but usually BT chip saves the mp. You may think of any other form to protect the MP - because you cannot buy any replacement and when it fails, the battery is junk. These is quite well documented in poland now and people manage to perform successful repairs. THere are also two types of these batteries, and two types of stabiliser - one of them - cant remember the markings now - is supposed to be "stable" and will not give any problems. 33b is the one that fails.
@@toolscientist bt module is not a problem, it accidentaly saves the microprocessor - serves as an overload protection. WIthout the BT you will burn the MP if the stabiliser fails again. It is the stabiliser that is faulty. (it is nearly impossible to comment on YT now, I wrote a long comment and they deleted it for no reason. You need to remember to copy your comment before posting it case it gets deleted - f... you yt. ) If you remove the failed BT chip, find a way to protect the micro processor. You cant buy a replacement - battery is junk if the microprocessor gets shot. (You can use the bms pcb from a normal 4ah battery though) In poland they mount transil diodes to protect the mp chip after the bt was removed. There are two types of stabilisers on this batteries - 33b is supposed to be a faulty one. People dont report problems on the other type of the stabiliser but I can remember its symbols.
When you solder that resistor like you did it by pushing it down, it will stress the other solder point of the resistor/circuit board. You should have been using hot air or only put solder on one of the solder points and then the other after the resistor was installed.
Hi! I removed the BT module and replaced the resistor and regulator. The battery now shows the LEDs when you press the button, but it doesn't charge. LEDs show that it's full, and the chargers green light stays on. When connecting it to a tool it works for 2 seconds and then cuts out, like you had in de first part of this video. Any idea what I could try more? I've added a 20 Ohm resistor in the same method as the French video did it.
Отличен, както винаги. Но не разбрах защо използваш паста, вместо тинол. Някои са откровени lead-free боклуци, които и на 240 градуса стоят като зле калайдисана тенджера. Преди много време имах случай в който пастата попадна под корпуса на чипа и накрая имах чудесно окъсена платка :) от тогава не ползвам :)
Спойките на регулатора и резистора не изглеждат много добре във видеото, но след това ги поправих и сега са както спойките на жиците във видеото. Но когато запоявам на 1м разстояние понеже пред мен стои камерата, нещата изглеждат по този начин😁
Very nice clip. I have the same problem with the button, but the battery works, but I can't see the charging status on the LEDs. Is it the same problem?
I have the same problem. I performed the fix as in the video. Battery now charges again and while charging the LEDs work. But when pressing the button they don't light up? Any idea what to check? Thanks for making my battery useful again! 👍
ercan hocam merhaba. kanalınızı ilgiyle takip ediyorum. bir sorum olacaktı. benim matkabın BMS kartında RS1M diyotu yandı. kartta sorun yok. bu diyot yerine kolay bulabileceğim muadil bir diyot önerebilir misiniz? US1M uygun mudur acaba?
bt module is not the culprit, it burns first on the way to the microprocessor after the sabiliser fails. You can remove the bt but you need to use good quality stabiliser because then in case it fails you will fry the microprocessor - no bt to protect it and take away the current. That's why in poland people use transil diodes when the bT unit is removed. If anything fails it is the transil diode that shuts overcurrent to ground and saves the microprocessor. Without the bt unit on the pcb it is very risky, bt chip accidentaly plays a protection to the microprocessor. Now, if the stabiliser fails again, the overcurrent will burn the microprocessor directly.
@@ErCanEverything I am not an electronic, I just follow the smarter guys and tell you what I have learnt. It is not about current but perhaps overvoltage and then the components failing. However, it has been tested now, that BT module is not faulty as such nor it causes problems, it just takes the overvoltage / overload on the way to a microprocessor from the stabiliser. Sometimes the failure will take both components so if you remove the BT, you need to protect the microprocessor somehow. Perhaps it will make more sense to you if you follow the power supply path on the pcb. This is what is said on my local forums and the smarter guys I follow, BT out = transil diode for protection of the microprocessor. good luck.
That's pretty rude even to suggest something like that because he's not speaking!! Even without him speaking he was very thorough through his typed in information it makes it hard when people speak too much when you're trying to troubleshoot something a lot of people waste time by speaking too much and I'm one of those types of people sometimes
I had the same problem and in a discussion on another PARKSIDE battery repair video I got the same tip about the BT module, 3.3V regulator and 20 ohm resistor.
I used the HT7133 stabilizer, input voltage up to 28V, although only 30 mA. But I measured the board's power draw - when the 3 led charge status indicators were lit, about 12 mA (corresponds to the video here). After 10 seconds the LEDs went off, the draw was approx 5 mA and after another 10 seconds the idle state - approx 70 uA.
I haven't found a replacement BT7L module (only different types), but it's not necessary to have it there. It's just not a "smart" battery (perhaps all the better, a component that is not in the device cannot cause a malfunction).
I wonder why these BT modules short out so often (it's a pretty widespread problem). I can think of the possibility of a voltage spike on the tool motor going through the stabilizer and causing damage to the 3.3V branch ...
Just my reasoning.
in 2023 they did better stabilizer so for sure from 12/2023 there is better stabilizer
You are correct. The brush motor cause a -200 Volt spike when rotating at max speed and then stopped. You can see, concomitantly, two large sparks, one on each side of the motor collector.
This is a problem with cheap tools. Whoever designed the smart battery didn't consider the nasty design of the drill.
You can save the day with an Y class, 10 nF 1000 V capacitor installed across the motor brushes.
3 yıl garantisi var, aynı sorunu bende yaşadım bana yenisini yolladılar. Yaptığın iş çok iyi saygı duyuyorum ,teşekürler . Benim için Özel alet,edavat gerekli ve de masraflı. Türk atasözü derki "attığın taş ürküttüğün kuşa değecek) 😃
Awesome troubleshooting as always. Many parkside users have issues with smart batteries and now you found solution. Anyway 99.9% of users don't use BT on their tools, it is just making problems. Great work as always my Friend 👏 👏 👏
Nobody wants any kind of Smart connection on their tools. I never used this stupid bluetooth modules And I have lot of tools with this function And maybe 8 batteries. Never conected to any phone - there is simply no reason, why to do that.
@@marekaksmu exactly
Thank you my Friend🙏🙂🤝🤝🤝❤️
@@marekaksmuI want and I use, don't way for all...
Faulty BT module 🤯
How is this even possible?
Nice troubleshooting Brother ✌️
They were 3 pcs.
And I decided to make a video about the last one.
Thank you Brother🙂🤝
@@ErCanEverythingwhen I remove the BT module the battery overcharges, how you deal with that? On my chargers they all overcharge
Parkside should pay for this troubleshooting xD Heard that many 8ah batteries have that problem(personaly never had). No bluetooth module that could be compatible to replace?
Your hot air gun is either not adjusted to the appropriate temperature or cannot provide the desired temperature. Because during the disassembly process of SMD components, you do the disassembly process before the solder melts completely. This may cause the solder pads on your electronic board to break.
Ercan please, what is the exact type of the 200ohm resistor ? 0805 or 1206 ? e24 or e96 ?
Excellent troubleshooting! Could you try replacing the 7533-1 with a Nisshinbo NJW4184U3-33B-TE2? It's SOT-89-3, 35V and 300mA. Current spec is a little low, but it was the best I could find
in poland they use ap2204 so 0.3a is enough i suppose..., but they say it is more about Vin - which should be about 21V at least for this stabiliser and it is probably voltage that kills the original stabiliser and not current.
But in this case there is a problem in the BT module itself and if I replace with a powerful regulator and I have to replace also with a powerful resistor and then I think it will heat up the BT Module and it will burn.
@@ErCanEverything ah, ok. I thought the problem was just that they'd slapped a BT module in without accounting for its additional power draw.
@@ErCanEverything bt module is not the culprit, it burns first on the way to the microprocessor after the sabiliser fails. You can remove the bt but you need to use good quality stabiliser because then when it fails again, you will fry the microprocessor - no bt to protect it and take away the current. That's why in poland people use transil diodes when the bT unit is removed. If anything fails. it is the transil diode that shuts overcurrent to ground and saves the microprocessor. Without the bt unit on the pcb it is very risky, the bt chip accidentaly plays a protection to the microprocessor. the bt unit burns as first after the 3.3v stabiliser failure. Sometimes it goes so bad that the mp is burnt also, but usually BT chip saves the mp. You may think of any other form to protect the MP - because you cannot buy any replacement and when it fails, the battery is junk. These is quite well documented in poland now and people manage to perform successful repairs. THere are also two types of these batteries, and two types of stabiliser - one of them - cant remember the markings now - is supposed to be "stable" and will not give any problems. 33b is the one that fails.
@@toolscientist bt module is not a problem, it accidentaly saves the microprocessor - serves as an overload protection. WIthout the BT you will burn the MP if the stabiliser fails again. It is the stabiliser that is faulty. (it is nearly impossible to comment on YT now, I wrote a long comment and they deleted it for no reason. You need to remember to copy your comment before posting it case it gets deleted - f... you yt. ) If you remove the failed BT chip, find a way to protect the micro processor. You cant buy a replacement - battery is junk if the microprocessor gets shot. (You can use the bms pcb from a normal 4ah battery though) In poland they mount transil diodes to protect the mp chip after the bt was removed. There are two types of stabilisers on this batteries - 33b is supposed to be a faulty one. People dont report problems on the other type of the stabiliser but I can remember its symbols.
When you solder that resistor like you did it by pushing it down, it will stress the other solder point of the resistor/circuit board. You should have been using hot air or only put solder on one of the solder points and then the other after the resistor was installed.
Hi! I removed the BT module and replaced the resistor and regulator. The battery now shows the LEDs when you press the button, but it doesn't charge. LEDs show that it's full, and the chargers green light stays on. When connecting it to a tool it works for 2 seconds and then cuts out, like you had in de first part of this video.
Any idea what I could try more? I've added a 20 Ohm resistor in the same method as the French video did it.
Is there 3.3V at the output of the regulator?
What is the name of the multimeter that u used? I have plan to buy one like that
Отличен, както винаги. Но не разбрах защо използваш паста, вместо тинол. Някои са откровени lead-free боклуци, които и на 240 градуса стоят като зле калайдисана тенджера. Преди много време имах случай в който пастата попадна под корпуса на чипа и накрая имах чудесно окъсена платка :) от тогава не ползвам :)
Ich nutze bleihaltiges und bin sehr zufrieden. Es wird mein Leben nicht reduzieren😂
Спойките на регулатора и резистора не изглеждат много добре във видеото, но след това ги поправих и сега са както спойките на жиците във видеото. Но когато запоявам на 1м разстояние понеже пред мен стои камерата, нещата изглеждат по този начин😁
Благодаря ти Приятелю🙂🤝🤝🤝
vauv hiç aklıma gelmezdi modül arızası. tebrikler...👋
Hey Mate, have three of this. Thanks to you, one is working again!
The two Others have just 2,4V on the Regulator... Do you know the Problem?
2:07 why do u replace voltage regulator if outside is good 3.4v ? 🤔
Mais um excelente trabalho, parabéns, obrigado
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝🤝🤝
Very nice clip. I have the same problem with the button, but the battery works, but I can't see the charging status on the LEDs. Is it the same problem?
Thank you🙂
And is it charging?
Does the red indicator light on the charger when charging?
@@ErCanEverything Ies, is it charging. Only de battery status indicator button not working. At 4 batteries.
@@Sim_Tiby i had that problem, the LEDs fall down after a crash on the floor. Solder back again.
I have the same problem. I performed the fix as in the video. Battery now charges again and while charging the LEDs work. But when pressing the button they don't light up?
Any idea what to check?
Thanks for making my battery useful again! 👍
Figured it out. Button simply turned out to be defective. Maybe that also got too hot due to the short?
Thanks again!
Good job man!
May I know which thermal camera do you use?
There is an order link in the video description
th-cam.com/video/1776cepvAxE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-MTxZwMwgxma-1EE
Big master ❤
ercan hocam merhaba. kanalınızı ilgiyle takip ediyorum. bir sorum olacaktı. benim matkabın BMS kartında RS1M diyotu yandı. kartta sorun yok. bu diyot yerine kolay bulabileceğim muadil bir diyot önerebilir misiniz? US1M uygun mudur acaba?
Hi , i liked the magnifying tool , i have bad sight . Can you share the idea behind it .ty
Can you make a Video how to Install a Display and USB Ports to the 12Ah smart charger? Very nice 👌
If the charger is there and modified, then there is also a video of how I did it.
th-cam.com/video/zP4K5ixEp9s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=j2fEEJdyEgoejzMx
The best repair tutorial for this type of batteries, in my experience they overcharge without the module, anyone whith the same experience?
I had also burned smd p channel mosfet near regulator. Also some 10k resistor next to 15k resistor near led diodes
Have you lowered the bluetooth module and changed the voltage regulator? Great work my friend
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝🤝🤝
Wow. Awesome lab
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Parkside ürünüm yok yinede izledim :) Ercan seyrettiriyorsun videoyu :)
Teşekkür ederim Dostum🙂🤝🤝🤝
Thank you
New to this but why does it have a BT module anyway ? 🤔
Hello my Friend 👋👋👋
nice
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Should i remove the bluetooth module to avoid this problem
If there is no warranty, you have to say goodbye to Bluetooth🙄🤷
I have almost tha same problem , except main is charging and tool work.
hello any idea how to reset pin to this type of battery? i have 2 baterry with forgoten password i cant use it because there are bloked
This video is missing an explanation of how you determined that the bluetooth module is the culprit.
bt module is not the culprit, it burns first on the way to the microprocessor after the sabiliser fails. You can remove the bt but you need to use good quality stabiliser because then in case it fails you will fry the microprocessor - no bt to protect it and take away the current. That's why in poland people use transil diodes when the bT unit is removed. If anything fails it is the transil diode that shuts overcurrent to ground and saves the microprocessor. Without the bt unit on the pcb it is very risky, bt chip accidentaly plays a protection to the microprocessor. Now, if the stabiliser fails again, the overcurrent will burn the microprocessor directly.
With 13mA current, you can't even burn out an LED diode🙂
@@ErCanEverything I am not an electronic, I just follow the smarter guys and tell you what I have learnt. It is not about current but perhaps overvoltage and then the components failing. However, it has been tested now, that BT module is not faulty as such nor it causes problems, it just takes the overvoltage / overload on the way to a microprocessor from the stabiliser. Sometimes the failure will take both components so if you remove the BT, you need to protect the microprocessor somehow. Perhaps it will make more sense to you if you follow the power supply path on the pcb. This is what is said on my local forums and the smarter guys I follow, BT out = transil diode for protection of the microprocessor. good luck.
Nota 0, o multimetro nao é parkside
The problem is not solved, the BT module is missing.
At least I have a working battery
Why is there a BT module in the battery?
To connect with mobile and show battery details on it.
We need a fix for usb c adapter
Should the next video be about this? I guess some people doubt that I can do this?
👍👍👍
Önce güvenlik. Güvenliğiniz için önce pil bağlantısını kesin. Daha çok video içerik üreteceksiniz başınıza birşey gelsin istemem
Teşekkür ederim Haklısınız.
Ancak ölçüm yapip size gösterebilmek için bu şekilde çalıştım.
😂😂😂
380v😂
@monolit4969 😅😅😅
I put this regulator 7533-1 and the battery not working with new resister 20 ohm ... can you help ...?
Parkside has awful quality...
Asked TH-cam not to recommend you as you don’t speak. Do you watch silent movies on television
good to see you leaving, bye.
talk is cheap. (It better production that it does not need words to explain everythink)
That's pretty rude even to suggest something like that because he's not speaking!! Even without him speaking he was very thorough through his typed in information it makes it hard when people speak too much when you're trying to troubleshoot something a lot of people waste time by speaking too much and I'm one of those types of people sometimes
@@put301 Stop being stupid. He is from Bulgaria, if he spoke, would you understand anything?
Asked TH-cam to remove your comment since you are just wasting precious space here 😂