I can't emphasize enough how much your clear and detailed instructions helped me save a ton of money for repair and get my wife's 2018 Buick Encore back on the road! I'm in no way an expert in vehicle repairs, but I was able to get this done within an hour or so. Rolled with an aluminum replacement off of Amazon and hoping it is more kind to us than the OEM plastic.
Was wondering what are had the crack in it . i dont see anything on the top unless its where the hose connects or if its underneath. but i see coolant dripping under and across to the back and then down
Just picked up an aluminum one also, hoping it lasts a bit longer...my OEM GM has what looks like 2 cracks at the elbow joints. How did your repair go? any concerns?
Great video, helped me to do the job on my friend's Vauxhall Mocca Z 1.4 Turbo here in the UK. BTW, for all of us thinking in metrics, 71 inch lbs is 8 Nm for those E10 bolts.
Wife's 2020 Sonic over heat light came on while on way home, fluid coming out of hose at nipple connection, almost as if clamp wasn't tight enough. Adjusted and got it home. This morning pulled hose off and top half of nipple is completely broken away.(have pic) Your video is going to make this repair a breeze and save this working stiff some moolah! Two 👍👍
@@joeyspears5897 how was it buddy? Legit same issue for me! Same steps too! Pushed it on, got home, cooled it off, took hose off….half the barrel the hose slides over is broken!! What in the world! Hopefully i can grab the part tomorrow and change out 🙄
hey mechanic checking in, great video and very informative. im doing a water outlet in the street later and wanted to know what tools i needed so thank you for calling the E10 out because that was my biggest question. didnt want to lug the whole set with me LOL
amazing video work and tutorial. one of the best how to videos ive watched. usually i still feel a little bit nervous before attempting a repair first time but this one is great
I’ve done many of these and both parts fail in the same way doesn’t really matter which one you go with but OE is always a good idea but not always available right away so I usually go with who can get me the part quicker. Also the thermostat housing on these same models fail by cracking I really don’t understand why they went with plastic instead of a aluminum housing.
Designed to fail to sell more of them and sell more labor....keeps the money coming in to pay for multi million dollar homes, yachts and planes. That good ole predatory capitalism..
Use socket that fits into area that clamp goes never had no more fail just use socket that has 3/4 fitting so coolant circulates well and drill 1/4 inch hole thru therm so coolant always flows never have cracked head or overheat issues no more
My condolences. Been there, done that at 132K on my 2012 Sonic LT 1.4l turbo. ZZP now has a beautiful cast aluminum water outlet for the Sonic 1.4l Ecotech. Comes with gasket and temp sensor and both OEM star bolts and Allen bolts. Installed easy as pie.
I wish I had ordered the aluminium aftermarket version of the part because my dealer installed another plastic one. The plastic one had cracked at only 109,000 km. They told me that you can't trust n😅n OEM parts...
Mine is leaking on the top of the water outlet from the line that has the retaining clip. Whenever I wiggle the hose it leaks just above that retaining clip. Would I have to replace the entire water outlet just for that? Just like the sensor, would there be an o-ring that might have cracked/split?
It's likely the plastic housing of the outlet has cracked in that area you're describing. It will be a hairline crack most likely, once the engine is warmed up you should see coolant actively oozing out from the crack area on its own. That may help determine if the leak is coming from the housing, or the hose itself.
If you are referring to the smallest diameter hose that plugs into the top of the water outlet (and held on by the plastic C clip) that would be the reservoir air bleed hose.
Thank you for your help, I ran into another issue. While removing the e10 screws all three of them broke from the thread any advice on how to remove the thread that stayed stuck?
It would be very obvious where any of the cooling hoses would be leaking with such a large tear or split in a coolant hose. With a large leak it should be easy to locate visually. But any component of the engine cooling system could be the source. Reservoir, radiator, primary hoses to the radiator, secondary hoses to the engine and heater, engine block, cylinder head, or the water pump are all possible sources. There's alot of places to check, and it has to be a visual inspection by someone experienced in finding these kinds of problems as it can also involve a missing fastener or clamp. Not something that can be diagnosed over a comment forum.
Thermostat housing and the heater sensor housing are all plastic so I painted both of them except for the little bit where the hoses go. I painted both of them with JB weld 600° two part epoxy now basically I’ve used this before for different things on the on the engine literally It’s a good product. Will it keep the plastic from cracking? I don’t know but at the time I ordered these parts, I didn’t know they made metal parts so let’s see how the JB two-part JB well two-part epoxy works out just to give you a heads up if it works for me it might work for you and I think it’s like the biggest tubes are like $20 for 2 : 3ounce tubes.
Is there a bleeder valve to bleed the air out after you fill the coolant back up or do you just run it and keep filling it up? About to do this on my wife’s 2020 sonic
I believe you're referring to that large diameter rubber air hose. If so, that's a part unique to the Sonic, when compared to the Cruze and other GM models, installation of the Ecotec 1.4L engine. It's a _charge air outlet_ hose that routes to the intercooler. GM part 95182749. Here's a couple of affiliate (#ad) links where you can find it online amzn.to/3rAbnVT or ebay.us/z2r7xe
I'm just not a fan of using aftermarket parts. Despite the longevity issues with plastics, genuine OEM parts are going to have superior fitment. This is particularly true for the combination thermostat/housing where these two are molded into a single assembly by GM. I view these sort of coolant leak repairs as just part of the maintenance cost of owning a GM Ecotec 1.4L (along with the myriad oil leakage issues these engines have). I advise their owners _If you bought the car because you loved it, you have love all its faults as well._ ;-)
Whats that hose piece at the top that goes to the reserve tank I had to use my old one that was in there and put it in my new one it k8nda leaks from that spot still
I believe you're referring to the small diameter air bleed hose assembly connecting to the very top of the water outlet. You leave the plastic end elbow on that hose attached, as I showed in the vid. That elbow is not serviced separately, it's part of the air bleed hose assembly.
The only concern would be quality of fitment so that you don't get problems connecting up to the rest. While metal instead of plastic construction could make for a longer life for this housing part, low cost asian manufacturing could yield new problems. If you go that route, my advice is to stay with a reputable aftermarket more expensive brand not something price driven off of Temu or AliExpress ;-)
I think this is what mine is doing must be a crack like this since its a tiny leak not big just yet . so the whole thing needs to come out then ? , not sure why they make everything plastic that gets that hot could it be the gasket that is leaking or is that something that doesnt really cause the leak i was wondering . Thanks for sharing
Once they crack they have to be replaced yes. Since it's made of plastic, and contains a very hot fluid under pressure, there's no lasting repair to the housing that can be made other than full replacement of the part with an original GM one (links are in the description).
I got to bring it in to a car place and have them look and fix it . not a big job just have to cool the car and have the right tools and know what your doing m that clamp thing you have is really handy for those tight spaces. that is really nice to have.. is it better to drain the coolant first so it dont get all over the engine or no ?
When these vehicles get over a certain age, trying to release the coolant petcock, or removing other hoses, often leads to more damaged and broken plastic parts. So as you saw me do in the video, I don't bother with that on vehicles over a decade old. Just catch the lost coolant and recycle it, it's hazardous to wildlife. Be sure to let the engine completely cool before starting the job, to avoid getting burned. And when the job is done, be sure to hose off any coolant residue from the engine compartment with water.
Ya my car is 8 years old with 54k miles chevy cruze i guess they are noted for this problem i just read about .. every day i find a half a teaspoon of coolant on the garage floor so its not to bad yet but i dont want it getting worse .. i may tell them to replace that upper and lower hose to so its all new and clean as well ..
Trying to help my mom save money, they told her that the coolant hose behind the turbo is leaking. That would be this correct? Trying to help her find the part online since the dealer says they don't have it and don't know when it will be in. Hers is a 2019 chevy Trax
There are more than one design of these engines, this video is for the option codes listed in the description. Some of the part numbers are different between the two model engines (the later 1.4L design started in 2016 but was only used on some GM models. Other GM models continued to use this same 1.4L engine I show here thru 2020). You cannot replace just the one part, as the turbo has to be removed to replace that coolant line, and as a result a number of gaskets, fasteners, and related parts must also be replaced as they are one time use only in design.
I was tightening the bolts trying to hit 71 pounds. One of the bolts snapped so I have a broken bolt in the engine block. Going to have to try to tap it out. Anybody that tries this might want to torque them to a lesser specification.
I don't understand why most people talk bad about chinese parts when we all.know if parts were made to last like it should,we wouldn't be replacing them to start.
In a professional business environment you learn _quickly_ that aftermarket parts last far less than OEM, fit worse if it all, and _always_ cause customer drama. It's a huge scam for the uninformed public in being able to buy those inferior low quality parts, which are imported en masse from asia. You do at times get OEM parts where there is a design flaw, or where the engineers did not anticipate conditions that result in premature failures in the field. But even in those cases, the OEM version of the part will consistently outperform the imported counterfeits, imitations, and copycats in fitment and longevity. In repairs, DIY is a labor savings on your wallet. It's not about cutting corners on the parts and tools. The OEM part may initially cost more, but even if flawed in design, it will not have to be replaced as often. And will fit without further modifications and get the vehicle back on the road without further drama.
I have to thank you once again my friend for such a wonderful breakdown and assembly video. You got me through this feeling like a pro. And thanks for the links you are a true blessing.
I can't emphasize enough how much your clear and detailed instructions helped me save a ton of money for repair and get my wife's 2018 Buick Encore back on the road! I'm in no way an expert in vehicle repairs, but I was able to get this done within an hour or so. Rolled with an aluminum replacement off of Amazon and hoping it is more kind to us than the OEM plastic.
Was wondering what are had the crack in it . i dont see anything on the top unless its where the hose connects or if its underneath. but i see coolant dripping under and across to the back and then down
Just picked up an aluminum one also, hoping it lasts a bit longer...my OEM GM has what looks like 2 cracks at the elbow joints. How did your repair go? any concerns?
Number reference of parts ? pls
Great video, helped me to do the job on my friend's Vauxhall Mocca Z 1.4 Turbo here in the UK. BTW, for all of us thinking in metrics, 71 inch lbs is 8 Nm for those E10 bolts.
This was a fantastic step but step. Replaced the manifold and look like a hero haha. Thank you.
Wife's 2020 Sonic over heat light came on while on way home, fluid coming out of hose at nipple connection, almost as if clamp wasn't tight enough. Adjusted and got it home. This morning pulled hose off and top half of nipple is completely broken away.(have pic) Your video is going to make this repair a breeze and save this working stiff some moolah! Two 👍👍
@@joeyspears5897 how was it buddy? Legit same issue for me! Same steps too! Pushed it on, got home, cooled it off, took hose off….half the barrel the hose slides over is broken!! What in the world! Hopefully i can grab the part tomorrow and change out 🙄
Exact same thing happened on my wife's chevy trax. Just finished it and this video made it a breeze.
Absolute amazing step by step video. I wish everyone did videos as great as you sir. Thanks for making me look like a hero to my niece!!
Thank you for being so through and even advising to clean up the coolant so the wildlife don’t get poisoned. A++++
hey mechanic checking in, great video and very informative. im doing a water outlet in the street later and wanted to know what tools i needed so thank you for calling the E10 out because that was my biggest question. didnt want to lug the whole set with me LOL
I know this is late but its an E10 Star Socket. You could also use an 8mm standard Socket if you don't have the E10.
amazing video work and tutorial. one of the best how to videos ive watched. usually i still feel a little bit nervous before attempting a repair first time but this one is great
extremely clear and perfect explanation of how to diy,,,,Thanks !!!!
Good on you sir! I'm changing one on a chevy trax right now.
I’ve done many of these and both parts fail in the same way doesn’t really matter which one you go with but OE is always a good idea but not always available right away so I usually go with who can get me the part quicker. Also the thermostat housing on these same models fail by cracking I really don’t understand why they went with plastic instead of a aluminum housing.
Zzp has an aluminum one
Designed to fail to sell more of them and sell more labor....keeps the money coming in to pay for multi million dollar homes, yachts and planes. That good ole predatory capitalism..
Use socket that fits into area that clamp goes never had no more fail just use socket that has 3/4 fitting so coolant circulates well and drill 1/4 inch hole thru therm so coolant always flows never have cracked head or overheat issues no more
My condolences. Been there, done that at 132K on my 2012 Sonic LT 1.4l turbo. ZZP now has a beautiful cast aluminum water outlet for the Sonic 1.4l Ecotech. Comes with gasket and temp sensor and both OEM star bolts and Allen bolts. Installed easy as pie.
Hi where did you find that I can't seem to find any thanks
I wish I had ordered the aluminium aftermarket version of the part because my dealer installed another plastic one. The plastic one had cracked at only 109,000 km. They told me that you can't trust n😅n OEM parts...
Mine is leaking on the top of the water outlet from the line that has the retaining clip. Whenever I wiggle the hose it leaks just above that retaining clip. Would I have to replace the entire water outlet just for that? Just like the sensor, would there be an o-ring that might have cracked/split?
It's likely the plastic housing of the outlet has cracked in that area you're describing. It will be a hairline crack most likely, once the engine is warmed up you should see coolant actively oozing out from the crack area on its own. That may help determine if the leak is coming from the housing, or the hose itself.
I had this same issue. An o ring fixed the leak.
There's a hose that I need to replace with the lil two twisty things on top of was leaking coolant from there but I don't know which hose is that
If you are referring to the smallest diameter hose that plugs into the top of the water outlet (and held on by the plastic C clip) that would be the reservoir air bleed hose.
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Thank you for your help, I ran into another issue. While removing the e10 screws all three of them broke from the thread any advice on how to remove the thread that stayed stuck?
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Hi, that can make don't work the cooling fan? Because my sonic have this problem.
If it just the hose it self will it lose coolant all at once?
It would be very obvious where any of the cooling hoses would be leaking with such a large tear or split in a coolant hose. With a large leak it should be easy to locate visually. But any component of the engine cooling system could be the source. Reservoir, radiator, primary hoses to the radiator, secondary hoses to the engine and heater, engine block, cylinder head, or the water pump are all possible sources.
There's alot of places to check, and it has to be a visual inspection by someone experienced in finding these kinds of problems as it can also involve a missing fastener or clamp. Not something that can be diagnosed over a comment forum.
Thermostat housing and the heater sensor housing are all plastic so I painted both of them except for the little bit where the hoses go. I painted both of them with JB weld 600° two part epoxy now basically I’ve used this before for different things on the on the engine literally It’s a good product. Will it keep the plastic from cracking? I don’t know but at the time I ordered these parts, I didn’t know they made metal parts so let’s see how the JB two-part JB well two-part epoxy works out just to give you a heads up if it works for me it might work for you and I think it’s like the biggest tubes are like $20 for 2 : 3ounce tubes.
Is there a bleeder valve to bleed the air out after you fill the coolant back up or do you just run it and keep filling it up? About to do this on my wife’s 2020 sonic
On this particular model GM engine, on this model year range, the air bleed is automatic thru the reservoir tank vent tube.
@@DrShock gotcha. Thank you man!
At the 2 min mark you pointed out an Air hose. What is this hose called? I’m having a very difficult time finding a replacement
I believe you're referring to that large diameter rubber air hose. If so, that's a part unique to the Sonic, when compared to the Cruze and other GM models, installation of the Ecotec 1.4L engine. It's a _charge air outlet_ hose that routes to the intercooler. GM part 95182749. Here's a couple of affiliate (#ad) links where you can find it online amzn.to/3rAbnVT or ebay.us/z2r7xe
Yeah that’s the one I was talking about but I have a 2018 trax
would like to know your thoughts on using a aluminum version of this and using a aluminum thermostat housing as well.
I'm just not a fan of using aftermarket parts. Despite the longevity issues with plastics, genuine OEM parts are going to have superior fitment. This is particularly true for the combination thermostat/housing where these two are molded into a single assembly by GM. I view these sort of coolant leak repairs as just part of the maintenance cost of owning a GM Ecotec 1.4L (along with the myriad oil leakage issues these engines have). I advise their owners _If you bought the car because you loved it, you have love all its faults as well._ ;-)
Love a Cruze? Bahahaha...you're funny!@@DrShock
Whats that hose piece at the top that goes to the reserve tank I had to use my old one that was in there and put it in my new one it k8nda leaks from that spot still
I believe you're referring to the small diameter air bleed hose assembly connecting to the very top of the water outlet. You leave the plastic end elbow on that hose attached, as I showed in the vid. That elbow is not serviced separately, it's part of the air bleed hose assembly.
Thank you!! Yeah that's what I'm talking about
Dr. I understand there is an Aluminum upgraded replacement part for this, is there any reason NOT to use it and keep using the GM plastic version?
The only concern would be quality of fitment so that you don't get problems connecting up to the rest. While metal instead of plastic construction could make for a longer life for this housing part, low cost asian manufacturing could yield new problems. If you go that route, my advice is to stay with a reputable aftermarket more expensive brand not something price driven off of Temu or AliExpress ;-)
I snapped the end off the screw ,at end of replacement aluminium, install,wtf
I think this is what mine is doing must be a crack like this since its a tiny leak not big just yet . so the whole thing needs to come out then ? , not sure why they make everything plastic that gets that hot could it be the gasket that is leaking or is that something that doesnt really cause the leak i was wondering . Thanks for sharing
Once they crack they have to be replaced yes. Since it's made of plastic, and contains a very hot fluid under pressure, there's no lasting repair to the housing that can be made other than full replacement of the part with an original GM one (links are in the description).
I got to bring it in to a car place and have them look and fix it . not a big job just have to cool the car and have the right tools and know what your doing m that clamp thing you have is really handy for those tight spaces. that is really nice to have.. is it better to drain the coolant first so it dont get all over the engine or no ?
When these vehicles get over a certain age, trying to release the coolant petcock, or removing other hoses, often leads to more damaged and broken plastic parts. So as you saw me do in the video, I don't bother with that on vehicles over a decade old. Just catch the lost coolant and recycle it, it's hazardous to wildlife. Be sure to let the engine completely cool before starting the job, to avoid getting burned. And when the job is done, be sure to hose off any coolant residue from the engine compartment with water.
Ya my car is 8 years old with 54k miles chevy cruze i guess they are noted for this problem i just read about .. every day i find a half a teaspoon of coolant on the garage floor so its not to bad yet but i dont want it getting worse .. i may tell them to replace that upper and lower hose to so its all new and clean as well ..
Trying to help my mom save money, they told her that the coolant hose behind the turbo is leaking. That would be this correct? Trying to help her find the part online since the dealer says they don't have it and don't know when it will be in. Hers is a 2019 chevy Trax
There are more than one design of these engines, this video is for the option codes listed in the description. Some of the part numbers are different between the two model engines (the later 1.4L design started in 2016 but was only used on some GM models. Other GM models continued to use this same 1.4L engine I show here thru 2020). You cannot replace just the one part, as the turbo has to be removed to replace that coolant line, and as a result a number of gaskets, fasteners, and related parts must also be replaced as they are one time use only in design.
Does the same apply to a1. 8 litter
Not directly, very different engine - different parts.
I see some aftermarket brands are made aluminum. Whay is your opinion?
I'm from the go OEM or go home camp. ;-)
Could you tell me what torque did you tighten the bolts to? thanks!
I don't recall off hand, but it is in the video within the _installation_ chapter.
I have one and I find oil on the big hose you just remove it do you know why is happened
eco valve cover is plastic and warps over time. I replaced the valve cover for 80$ and it fixed the "leaking" oil.
I had the same leak on my 2016 Sonic.
I was tightening the bolts trying to hit 71 pounds. One of the bolts snapped so I have a broken bolt in the engine block. Going to have to try to tap it out. Anybody that tries this might want to torque them to a lesser specification.
@@jibblyjump I'm going to assume you tightened it to 71 FOOT lb and not 71 INCH lb like the video says?
@@mikeroshop8913 I made that mistake before! surely that’s what happened!
They make metal ones now for this part,Zzp,racerX ,do you recommend,?
I've replaced 2 on my cruze .
What are the main tools to use?
A plastic water outlet. Seems like a good idea. 🙄 Anyone have any experience with an aluminum replacement?
Zzp has an aluminum outlet for about 30 bucks
Polyurethane! Not necessarily the plastic you’re thinking about. Hell, The sway bar links are even plastic! 😂
I don't understand why most people talk bad about chinese parts when we all.know if parts were made to last like it should,we wouldn't be replacing them to start.
In a professional business environment you learn _quickly_ that aftermarket parts last far less than OEM, fit worse if it all, and _always_ cause customer drama. It's a huge scam for the uninformed public in being able to buy those inferior low quality parts, which are imported en masse from asia.
You do at times get OEM parts where there is a design flaw, or where the engineers did not anticipate conditions that result in premature failures in the field. But even in those cases, the OEM version of the part will consistently outperform the imported counterfeits, imitations, and copycats in fitment and longevity.
In repairs, DIY is a labor savings on your wallet. It's not about cutting corners on the parts and tools. The OEM part may initially cost more, but even if flawed in design, it will not have to be replaced as often. And will fit without further modifications and get the vehicle back on the road without further drama.
@@DrShock THE SMALL HOSE CONNECTED TO THE THERMOSTAT HOUSING.. HOW IS THIS REPLACED?? 1.4 TURBO SONIC
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Drill a hole in that! You’re replacing it anyhow.
Say no to plastic parts, get an aluminum one from ZZP!!!!!
We always go OEM parts only here.
sure sold then a hose for no reason
Can you say that in Chinese 😮
I have to thank you once again my friend for such a wonderful breakdown and assembly video. You got me through this feeling like a pro. And thanks for the links you are a true blessing.