Adventure VS. Off Road Riding Gear | All About Compromises
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Let's take a deep dive into the differences between adventure and off road riding gear. What are the compromises and which is right for the way you ride?
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sorry to dig up old topics, but do you prefer in boat or over boot pants? looking at Mosko Moto woodsman and cant decide, mostly ride fire roads no single track. (always use your affiliate links!!) love sporting your content. thanks
I've decided to buy my safety gear before I even learn to ride.
I think of it like throwing your backpack over a fence... "welp.. now we definitely going"
haha I'm doing the same thing dude lol
Or weight belt and tanks over the side to go diving.
I lost 35 lbs and my adventure jacket was way too big. So I got a new smaller jacket, and now that I’m riding more and more off-road I took the old jacket, removed it’s armor, and I use it now as a shell over the body armor suit until I get to the trail. Works awesome!! All the benefits of an ADV jacket, water proof, and more armored than it was originally! I can roll it up super easy and while it is still big-ish, and it is weight, it seems worth it. I bet with a compression sack it could be really great.
Although my plan is to get off-road at some point in the future, I've just made the switch in this direction. Just purchased a body armour jacket and I have a number of over-jackets, all big enough to go over the protection jacket, and each offers a different level of weather protection. Living in Texas, it sucks to wear a heavy jacket, so I'm hoping this is going to be a good mix. I do ride a large capacity Adv bike anyway, but I'm sure my cruiser buddies will have a laugh seeing my protection jacket - I don't care, this setup makes a lot of sense and I don't worry about impact pads in pockets inside my jackets that rarely sit in the right place to provide the protection they're supposed to.
Alpinestars Tech 7 now available with DryStar waterproofing. Reasonably comfortable as well.
This video really should be getting a lot more likes. Very informative and no-biased. Awesome video!
Thanks for taking the time to post your videos. You always have something interesting!
Hey, Thanks for all the information you provide in these off road and adventure gear videos. The time you put toward others in finding their best path is awesome.
Cheers!
this is a perfect video for someone like me transitioning from street and dual sport to dirt bike riding. great job man.
Hey man. Good stuff. I appreciate your thoughts. You've gotten considerably adept at speaking clearly and concisely. Keep it up!
I know this video is old but I want to say thank you. What you do is very helpful and honest. I appreciate it.
Great info! Thanks for all your help.
Gday Ian,
Total noob here getting back into some off-road type riding after about 35 years away from it. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this vid. I really appreciate it. Given me lots to think about.
Cheers from Australia 👍🍻
No problem 👍
New to ADV and love your insights man!
Thank you for this. My new 890 isn’t here yet so adv riding is brand new to me. On the other hand dirt biking is what I know. I’m 55 and just had a partial knee replacement. I won’t ride a bike again without braces on even if it’s a Harley. I’m a retired fire Captain paramedic. Ain’t no klim pant gonna save your knees in a bad MC crash when your knee goes the wrong way.
Also, there is no better foot/ankle protection than the Gaerne SG 12 boot. Waterproof socks are recommended but even the sidis don’t have matched toe box protection.
I really like your channel and look forward to a new chapter of riding in my life
Thanks Ian! Always great content! 👍🏻🍻🏍🇺🇸
Thank you great video for a long time rider just starting in the adventure
Great video! I especially agree with your boots opinion (I just broke my ankle in Sidi Adv falling down on a sandy trail with my KTM 1090 :/ ).
As for dual use clothes check Adventure-Spec line. I used their Linesman/Mongolia jackets for 2 years now and they do well on and off tarmac. Cheers :)
Best video on this topic I’ve seen so far! Thanks!
Thanks
Great info and great background!
It is always a dilemma. My BMW suit opens up and allows good airflow. I’ve used in high 30’s with no issues (just have to keep hydration up and suit has a built in bladder to ensure that). I did think about getting a MX shirt with under armour but it’s more gear to carry about and, as you say, no good for wet/cold weather. I rarely do single track and mostly asphalt and dirt roads so BMW gear suits me fine.
Great video. Lots of very good points!. I'm a fan of the adv gear myself, but like you say it does lack airflow at the lower speeds....you need to be moving. So I've started buying some of the mesh adv gear from rev-it, it has its downfalls when it comes to rain but that's easily overcome with their brightly colored rain jacket (or even just a plain old north face rain coat) worn over it, ultra packable. This gives me the full protection of adv gear with the airflow of wearing almost nothing...but requires stopping to add a waterproof layer if rain starts. The only time I don't wear armor at all is on my 2km ride to work and back.
Great and very helpful. I love your videos. Thank you:)
Awesome, clear honest information. Big thanks!
Great video Ian! Thanks for sharing! 👍🏻🍻🇺🇸
Thank you for your informative videos I appreciate all your knowledge that you share with us.
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the review
Thanks for the great vids
Really good info; thanks!
Very helpful. Thank you.
Always very informative content 👍
Thanks
Great informative video.
Nice job Ian, enjoy your videos 👍👍
Very informative!
I sprung for the Alpinestars Toucan GoreTex boots. Best of both worlds
Looks good!
This is a very timely video since I just bought a dual sport and an adventure bike. Heavily mod'd Suzuki DR650 and a Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa.
Nice bikes
@@BigRockMoto Thank you. I'm doing even more mods to the DR right now. I'm stoked to get it out!
Thank you for the excellent video, what jacket are you wearing? Also, are there aftermarket seats where you could do bar risers & a bigger seat? What's the competitor for this, the KLR 650 or?? yes, the burp was hilarious.
You Rock, man. Hope you're doing well.
Might I add.... separate kneed guards in addition to the boots. There's that portion of your shin that doesn't get coverage, I always seemed to get dinged when I go off roading.
Alot of great info in this video!!!!! Great back drop as well....what a view!!!!! Where was this filmed????
Idylwild, CA
Many dirt bike boots aren’t waterproof, but anecdotally I’ve yet to have my feet get wet in short rides with my Sidi X-3 Enduro boots in pretty steady rain, even though they’re not “waterproof. Waterproof socks are readily available and cheaply replaceable instead of replacing the boots altogether; additionally non-membraned boots breathe better and dry quicker when/if they do get really wet.
Hey Ian. Have you discovered Adventure Spec yet? They’re a small (but rapidly growing) British company who design and build a range of adventure gear, based on a layering system. Great quality stuff, designed by adventure bike riders. Thanks, by the way, for this very useful video.
I find it really important to be able to take my coat off and strap it to the bike when I get to slow speed sections or the temps get stupid hot.
Great. stuff
I like the safety FlipFlops
Motocross boots are far superior when protection is required waterproofing? I simply have waterproof breathable socks works like a charm in colder weather.
They made for running or hiking so c
Around £15 and last forever.
i hear it so often; "dress for slide not the ride" but i'm over it. ive been riding enduro and motocross for 15 years. i'm not doing sport bike-esque turn on the pavement. its probably been 10 years since i fell off my bike in non technical terrain and it was in a downhill turn on a slimy clay road. u dont have to take roads that 60mph+. i honestly think the industry pushes all this overpriced gear on us.
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I have the same two boots as you, Sidi Crossfire 2 and Sidi Adv. I've stopped wearing the Sidi Crossfire's simply because I've got zero feel with them on the shifter and rear brake pedal. I'd rather avoid the crash in the first place because I can feel the controls. On the dirt bike vs Adv gear, that's a really hard choice here in Colorado, because in the morning at elevation, it's freaking freezing out, then it turns into an oven by mid afternoon. I've just resigned myself to being hot later in the day at slow speeds and wear the Klim Badlands. I'd love to wear the dirt bike stuff but I know I'd be a popsicle the entire morning, especially up on the higher passes
Same with me. My very first trip, all packed up, headed out to the desert for the Mosko Moto wknd riding event, and I got on the interstate, and my toe was riding the brake (brand new bike with 700 miles on it) and I dind't know it. Ended up burning up the rotor, and pads and missed the event and cost me $1400 at the dealership. I"m an idiot evidently. Not exactly sure what to do now. (Gaerne Fastback boots)
Yup. Used to ride from NM to Million Dollar Highway. Go from 90+ to 40 with snow flurries. Nuts. (I sure do miss it, though!).
I wonder if you have seen Spidi instep armour. I think it’s the best posssible compromise for the upper body.
Great info on your videos your opinion seems objected see you at Adventure days Sakara
Objective
Great breakdown. I wonder what setup you would pick if you were doing the TAT in August. Please let me know....I’m so stumped!
Honestly - a full mesh suit, like the Klim Baja, with a light rain jacket to go over the top if needed.
@@BigRockMoto I'll give that a go...thanks!
Mosko Moto has some great layering gear, pants etc now too.
Their enduro pants are 400euro wtf
@@MrDEANOSCOOLVIDS Yep. Haven't priced any pants from anybody lately ?
Good tops
What's your take on neck braces should I keep mine on after getting back on the road
gREAT CONTENT! gREAT cHANNEL!
Now I have a dilemna , I ride rather light 0ffroad 30% and 70% adventure , could you suggest something. ?Security , comfort is important for me.
Why should a recreational trail rider wear in boot vs over boots pants? What conditions or riding style determines that? I see MX is only in. Dual sport is mostly over. But trail riding?
I believe there is Gore-Tex version of Alpinestars Tech 7
is the klim gear worth the so much more extra money they cost?
whats considered light off road?
Try alpine stars new tech 7 drystar boot
Is there a shell that has slide resistance? That way you could wear the off-road armor and have the slidable shell on the road, and then pack the shell when you hit the trail.
I test impact abrasion / slide resistance on asphalt. Hard plastic is very resistant to abrasion. I got some basic pads for $4 with plastic shells online from China. They handled 3 impacts and 3 slides for a total distance of about 50 metres (60 yards) until I judged them not reusable. I'm going to test some Dainese hard shell armour soon. All drops were from 1 metre (39") and a 6kg (13lbs) weight. So, I'd say yes. Any plastic of at least 2-3mm thickness will handle impacts and slides very well. Furthermore, soft foam pads are extremely abrasion resistant too. A d3o LP2 pad (14mm thick) lasted one impact and 110m of slide, at which point it folded and was pulled out of the pocket. There was still 40% of the thickness left. I did the same test with a SAS-TEC 14mm thick pad and it lasted 180m of slide until it had a hole.
Interestingly, pads can handle much more abrasion and impact than the fabrics that hold them. So it looks like it's a better idea to put them on the outside. They'll save the much more expensive jacket or pants, but only in the impact zones and maybe a little extra.
Late response, but I can add that the Klim Dakar jacket is pretty close to what you’re suggesting. It comes without pads (but has pockets for them). It is really designed as the over layer for an off-road jersey/armor setup. I use it either directly over an armored shirt, or with armored shirt and jersey underneath. It’s very versatile. If the day starts cold you can keep it on over your jersey and armor, and zip off the sleeves as the temperature goes up (there’s a “duck pocket” for the sleeves and whatever in the back). So far I’ve just pulled it off and stuffed it into my tail bag or hydration backpack when I go off pavement.
It’s very light and flexible, but appears it would have pretty good abrasion resistance on pavement. As the other reply says, if you have good armor on, you’ll get some abrasion resistance from that where there is coverage.
I see you've got the LED headlight for the KTM! Is there gonna be an upcoming video on that? Also, I want a Krios Pro too, so if anyone wants to buy me one too feel free! :)
Yeah I can do one. Baja XL80, super bright but the stock ktm mount doesn't allow good adjustment.
@@BigRockMoto Check out the moto minded mounts for your baja designs light, easy to adjust and quite a bit of adjustment
i thought the body armor is better.....just put something on top depending on the wether.....if its summer maybe just a tshirt on top will do.....or if its too cold put as heavy jacket at you want....they say the armor is best for impact....i think the plastic armor should allso be good for abration protection
I think the plastic might not absorb impact but the sliding it would be better and thicker . The plastic might slide for longer? Maybe that's a good thing
I wear the same gear for all my riding. Aerostich one piece. That said, I’m looking for a two piece.
Check out Motoport
I don't understand the thing with special clothes to ride adv bikes or street bikes and so on..
I ride a t7 with a street jacket (lindstrands rexbo jacket) and motorcycle jeans. It works just fine and i can go anywhere all the people with adv clothing goes. I just don't understand what the hysteria is about. 🤔
Broken foot on single track with sidi adv boots not enough protection 😩 s g 12 s on xmas list
Try sidi crossfire too
Boss I am interested in BMW R1200 2020
DOT approved helmets are not good helmets if that is all they have. Snell is better, but there are other ratings for other levels of protection that really, really make a difference in and impact, or prevent your head from getting twisted badly in a crash (get those silly camera's and communicators off your helmets you silly man). But a DOT approval means nothing. It isn't much more than a bicycle helmet.
Do you still like the body armor?
And what about that new headlight??
TLDR - street gear hot but more protection.
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