It’s funny how we’ll sometimes wear wigs without washing the cornrows underneath for months and then call freeform locs dirty. It says a lot because no style expresses the true coiliness of 4c hair like freeform locs do. With freeform locs you don’t get to hide behind your twist-outs and blow-outs and heartless stretches anymore. It literally forces you to accept yourself. I wish I had the courage to be that free sometimes. I’m getting there.
Oh hell no - could never be me 🤮 I can’t make it longer than a week to maybe a week and a half without taking it off and unbraiding my natural hair underneath and immediately washing it before putting a new wig or extension braids on 🤢😖✋
It's especially shocking when people with manicured locs make fun of freeformers and call them dirty. Some people also associate free forming with poverty, assuming you don't have enough money to pay for a retwist.
Yeah as someone with manicured locs I make it my mission to speak out when someone says something bad about freeforms. I don’t understand why people with locs judge freeforms like they are too good for them.
For real, if its not Bob Marley esk people talk mess about you. I wear frizzy twistouts so my hair has a free form look to it even tho its not locd. I remember this dude with locs told me I look like Sideshow bob and that I need to go twist my own hair instead of advertising that I do locs. And said he would never let me touch his locs. I told him hair is energy and I would never want to touch him nor help him. I also told him those constant re-twist are the reason his crown is thinning and locs are splitting and breaking. lmao
@@angelica69 I think because a lot of ppl with manicured locs do it as a trend and only want to achieve a certain look (e.g. the long goddess locs look with laid edges, curly ends, etc. Mayowa did an interesting analysis of that look a while back, too!) Many of them aren't so interested in the natural look/journey of self-acceptance, etc.
@@aberry16 I couldn’t agree more. It’s a trend right now. Those same people with be combing and cutting off their locs as soon as it’s not cool anymore.
It’s the same thing with Afros, Puffs, and buns. If it’s not perfectly curled or coiled with layed edges, it’s not “ done “ . I remember when my mom told me my hair wasn’t “ done “ just because I wore a bun without slicked down edges.
There is no freedom in white narrow culture. Conforming to it means you need to fit into that tiny, narrow box or it’s automatically bad. That’s why I stopped following that beauty standard all together. I Love triggering those who conform. We create more space 💗💗💗
Anytime I go out with my type 4 hair (I call it that bc it’s 4a/b/c throughout by entire head) in its natural state, my parents call it messy and tell me to go fix it e.g. cover it or find a way to make it look more “presentable”.
I’ve had this same sentiment/revelation for a while… its crazy. And, i think some people don’t want to have that discussion because anti-blackness is deeply rooted in their everyday lives. I think people are more comfortable with posting black squares on instagram than to talk about ANTI-BLACKNESS.
I think it’s a form of projecting. Historically speaking Europe was known to be dirty and the people practiced bad hygiene. Illnesses were a big problem, high child mortality rate, etc. All linked to bad hygiene. Even the plague that killed Europeans like no other was so heavy because of bad hygiene. Guess what. It was a black people from north west Africa called the Moors who taught whites how to properly clean themselves and brought their superior medicine. It was Africans who saved Europeans existence because of that. In Germany not too long ago streets, pharmacies, bakerys or chocolate was named after the moors because of their contribution to their society. There were little images of black men in uniforms at the pharmacies too depict the moors. It has been removed now because it was also associated with racism. But since i realized the true root of racism is extreme envy and jealousy it made sense. They project their own image on us, while appropriating and strealing from us. It’s a culture of envy. We can not relate, because we come from abundance. Lesson: Don’t save or help a culture of envy.
Yeah even way back then the treacherous Moors swooped in saving these barbarians and put ww on a pedestal which lead to their downfall. Now fast forward to today🥴
Yup. Where was the Black Plague? EUROPE. Who brought all those diseases halfway across the world and wiped out almost whole civilizations? The White colonizers. Smh!
I love you girl... finally, someone who respects the form... ppl think im either homeless or on drugs because the back of my freeforms are super matted smh I work as a beautician and the dirty stuff i see up underneath these wigs smh salt looks like sugar ppl....
This! I'm old enough to remember when weaves became more "affordable". I used the quotations because sisters would have them in for like 2 months to get their money's worth despite stench and itching. All the ways we do our hair is creative but some still wondered if my hair was clean/sanitary just because it was natural, so-called 4c hair in twists, an afro puff, etc. It's a shame cos many natural sisters like me were meticulous about hygiene because that's who we were, but also because of the presumption that unstraightened hair meant we'd "let ourselves go" or "didn't care".
I wish more people would practice shutting tf up! It's so annoying social media has given everyone a voice..even for negativity!! Sometimes things don't need to be said out loud, geesh!!
Anti blackness is real. And everyone has internalized it. Everyone. For some reason, everyone wants black people, to change who they are and what they look like to mimic European standards and looks. Sorry, I'm not European. And it's a journey to love yourself for who you are and how you choose to show up in the world. When black people just show up as who they are, it's a problem for so many people. It's sad AF. While I personally adore locs and when I had them, they were NOT freeform. Even for me, freeform locs show me my own internalized anti blackness. You have really helped me with that Mayowa. It's deep. I'm currently growing my hair out now and I'm going semi free form! I'm excited!
When you say everyone, it really is everyone. I have a brother who's white with very eurocentric features, all except for his hair, which is a tight, curly texture. When it's long it's practically an afro. We have no black relatives, he's just white with tightly curled hair. And he's always hated it, when he was a kid he would cry for hours because all he wanted was straight hair. And recently he's finally found something for his hair texture that he'd actually like and feel beautiful in. He wants locks. But our dad literally told him not to get them because they were dirty.
But then, when you are your natural as well because they are jealous that they cannot have confidence to pride themselves in the natural. Whatever it is there is no winning. I've got made fun of for the way I talk, interests hobbies etc (being white) then I got made fun of for wearing my hair 'natural' and called a birds nest. We never win and yeah it was all from black people.......
The over-obsession with cleanliness in the African diaspora is rooted in colonialism, and the internalization and weaponization of it from us against others in the diaspora are egregiously anti-Black. We need more conversations like this. Thank you for sharing 💜
Yess I was watching a video about this recently Can't rem her name but I think you could search "cleanliness in the black community" and it may come up It's a long video like 20 somn minutes
Im from Miami where we have heavy "loc culture" here. Freeform is common and the norm. The majority of our people down here are haitian and jamaican, with the history of those two nations brought together in one place anti black sentiments dont stand a chance against us locheads. Growing locs has become a tradition for us. And rightfully so.
Nah fr… thank you for making this video. Even within the natural hair community, people use the same tired ass anti black speaking points to come for people with freeforms and semi-freeforms.
My hair isn't the super dense texture that you are calling 4c but I stopped getting my locs rolled and interlocked and all of it, 5 years ago in May. It isn't shiny. The new growth is like fuzz and some of it refuses to join existing locs. Three years ago on Christmas eve my sister attacked me saying it was dirty. Mind you she didnt know it was free forming until I told her I wasn't getting it done anymore. She said I would look like the dope heads on the street. And my mother said "thank you". Like it validates her and makes me the one who is wrong. I came home and told my daughter and she was shocked that they did that. Then she said don't worry mommy. So I took her advice.
The notion of people thinking that blackness is just "dirt" you can scrub off sounds bizarre but unfortunately, it happens more often than we think. My black friend-of-a-friend was at a pool and a person legit came up to them and tried scrubbing off the back of their hand to see if the colour comes off. So bizarre
I believe you. Even as a child, most colorism tormenting involved being called dirt or dirty at some point; no matter who the taunting was coming from.
Its so annoying how black ppl been saying they dont wash their hair often and all the lil white girls wanna say we r dirty but now a couple white ppl r gettin popular on yt for havin really long hair n r sayin they only wash their hair once a month and for some reason thats just completely accepted.
Afro hair, more so 4c hair, in its natural / virgin state (washed, uncombed, unprocessed chemically) just normally and naturally forms clumps and the beginnings of what we now call free form locs. Before our ancestors created combs, platting, braiding, and Bantu knots, I am certain this is the natural state they will have kept it in. Our hair was never meant to be combed and certainly not with the tools and manner in which Caucasian type hair is because such treatment easily causes breakage and stumps growth. When Afro hair is left together, unmanipulated, , it grows long and strong, a reflection of our communal African societies - (together we are strong and we thrive). When combed into individual strands, reminiscent of individualistic European societies, it becomes weak, breaks and fails to grow.
EVERYBODY's hair, in its natural/virgin state (washed, uncombed, unprocessed chemically), just normally and naturally forms clumps. If white people do not comb their hair, tangles appear. It becomes matted. The comb changed things up for EVERYBODY. There are things about our hair that are very different. There are also similar things about our hair because we're all human. The ways in which we choose to style our hair are what is special and unique and worth appreciating.
This came right on time w/ Intelexual Media's recent video about Black women and hygiene. She discussed hygiene more broadly instead of focusing on hair, but a lot of the themes you discussed about proving cleanliness was discussed there too.
@@cmg25 it's actually the Opposite for mixed ppl Free-form locs on mix ppl Don't look like hers in the video or the man own Hers and his looks Way More neat and individually formed Mix own come out Way Different
I don't understand why people are so obsessed with other people's hair. To much stuff going on in the world to be trying to figure out or assume someone hair is dirty. Just becomes it there natural hair growing from the scalp. I would say instead of wearing about them wearing about yourself. And how about showing kindness that's goes a long way instead of being negative for no reason at all.
I have locs, not free form, but my hair and scalp are just as clean, if not cleaner that when I simply wore my hair natural. Besides regular cleansing and rinsing, I use oils that have antimicrobial and antifungal properties. Some of the oils I use are organic coconut oil, grape seed oil, and frankincense oil. This is part of my daily personal hygiene for the care of my hair and scalp and not how I am viewed by OTHER folks.
Congrats on your show, sis!!! It’s actually nuts that ppl have the audacity and nerve to come for free form locs. I have three little ones and my middle sons hair wants to loc so bad. Literally two days after a wash locs will start trying to form. I’ve been saying I’m just going let nature take course soon and they’re going to be gorgeous.
The cold part... Africans INTRODUCED bathing and oral hygiene to the west. My how the turn tables have turned...😂😂😂 just the fact that we even have to discuss this is annoying. I have manicured locs and I'm just so tired of the hygiene Olympics out here.🙄
Sis! What camera are you using?? I always love your eye makeup but your actual eyes are GORGEOUS!! The charity of this camera is like you’re right here! Anyway, I love and appreciate your videos. I consider myself to be conscious but I find myself checking myself after viewing some of your content. Just shows there are so many layers to this and even the most knowledgeable can learn so much more. Thanks for being such a great voice 🥰
First of all, congrats on your show in Berlin….you look amazing👏🏽 Second, every word you spoke was truth and I’m grateful we’re living in a time where commentators like you are calling out the self hate among black people and other POC. Maybe if we had more TH-cam videos that showed the Freeform Locs process it could allow more people to understand and respect the process🤔
The real issue is drying 4C hair NOT washing it. I have a stand up dryer that I can sit under because I realized as my hair grew longer it was not completely drying. I sit under the dryer and than blow dry my roots before doing my really big twists. I tested with air drying stretched hair it takes three days to dry and natural no stretching a full week. It has to be a really hot like the equator of Madagascar for my hair to dry within 15 minutes, the Caribbean Summer 30 minutos and the dog days of Summer in NYC? 45 minutes. Making sure my hair is throughly dry inside means no more itchy scalp. It was like my scalp had a tummy ache.
Yes my scalp itches when it stays wet for too long so I have to use a dryer after I was it too. I tried washing my hair once a week and the dermatologist said I was over washing my hair causing a dry scalp and dry brittle hair. Every 2 weeks is perfect for me
If you don't want them, don't wear them, if you dont like them aesthetically don't look? ESPECIALLY if you wont be able to keep your opinions to yourself!!!!!
this. sometimes there’s a conversation to be had, but*truly* i am confused how anybody can look at this phenomenon and think it’s not at least part anti-Blackness. like, how else can you explain this & how it doesn’t happen to anybody else of any other hair texture? as somebody with locs with parts rather than freeform , it’s also a great point how we separate ourselves - our hair is controversial but “at least it’s not that!” thanks for everything & congratulations on your show xo 💓
It makes me mad too sis. So much we need to get back to as black people. A lot of us ain’t going to make it because we are okay with living in a colonized world. Really sad. But I keep moving north in my mind😀😀😀
@Arinze no I can't see dirt but I can't see his scalp and it his hair looks very matted and hard to properly clean so that's why I could understand why ppl assume its dirty. Also it just looks a hot mess💀. He can do what he wants but that doesn't mean I have to love it and agree with it
I have 4c hair. Let's make something clear, just because a black person doesn't like dreads does not mean they are anti-black. We as black people have a right to a different opinion. I would not ever publicly say someone's dreads are nasty. Me myself I dont like the look , but some people do and that's their business. I DONT ALLOW ANYONE TO PUT ME IN ANY TYPE OF BOX AND NONE OF US SHOULD DESPITE WHAT ETHNIC GROUP WE BELONG TO. STAY BLESSED AND THINK FOR YOURSELF.
I'M SO SICK OF PEOPLE BEING SO OBSESSED WITH BLACK WOMEN HAIR , DAMN LEAVE US TF ALONE ‼️‼️‼️ WORRY ABOUT YALL HAIR NOT OURS SHIT , THIS WHY EVERYTIME MY FRIEND TALKS BAD ABOUT A BLACK WOMEN HAIR I STAND UP AND DEFEND RIGHT AWAY LIKE NO STFU ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
The people you speak about being obsessed with black women’s hair appear to be black. Caucasians have no idea about any of this. Nobody who was a “colonialist” has walked the earth for centuries. Own your issues.
I always kinda got that vibe by how compulsive or made fun of people get for not getting a lineup every 2 weeks, or not showing their scalp and having uniform locks with square visible sections. on the flip side, I can see where some people may be coming from with the giant 4inch diameter + locks, seeming like it could be hard to wash, but either way, its not a good look, and not a good thing to support to bring down your own people
Tragic cuz I was in the Zurich airport and the same shit happened to me…didn’t nobody wash dey hands after using the toilet…but y’all wanna worry about niggas washing. Ok
I totally agree with you on the fiery darts thrown at us, by us. It’s stupid for us to do that to each other. I have hair that has been locked for 2 years 4 months. I went to an acquaintance’s elderly mom’s, decided to help him take bagged food into her home, only to have her insult my hair. She told me that she didn’t “like” my hair like this and that it looks “real silly.” 😳 I was completely blindsided by this, but I replied by telling her that this is the way my hair grows naturally from my scalp and to take it up with the creator.
The discrimination is real! I knew a black guy who was disappointed that his biracial son chose to wear his natural curly hair in coils ( loc appearance). I knew then we were going to have problems.
Girl, I'm glad you finally said it in the video because these colonizers are not really that clean. I've lived in England and travelled around Europe and the STENCH I've been subjected to is unparalleled.
I lived in NYC for 5 years. In the summertime on the subway, it smells like LITERAL wet , sweaty dog and the smell is coming from them. I've even observed that in train cars where there were only black people, I've never smelled it. Many people in NY know this and talk about it, the smell is nauseating.
As a brit but also a south asian, youre right. some white people are really nasty and convinced that they're not l think it's also due to their parents never teaching them how to take care of themselves as well as youve put a lack of pressure they face by society that minorities do to prove they are clean.
The over obsession with cleanliness is definitely anti black because we see it all the time in things like housing, where people literally will not want to rent an apartment if they learn a Black family previously lived in it or a house - the realtors will literally mark a house value down by THOUSANDS if they know a Black family owned it before. Experienced it myself with renting, landlords (White and Hispanic ones) always treated my family like we were never clean enough to be living in their rundown buildings. Everyone's mind is supremely colonized. Their hate of Blackness is directly linked to their hatred of Mama Earth that birthed them! A shame.
First of all I’m black but “mated” hair is always associated with negligence therefore someone with free form locs is the perfect victim,which is a stereotype.If one has ordinary locs there’s control in size,style etc In my opinion our natural hair texture is not mated.
I'm not proving cleanliness to colonizers that most people's they were subjugating could smell coming. I don't know what kind of grooming goes with free-form locs. For me my issue with protective styling wasn't washing but drying. Cleaning wasn't an issue, but if I didn't take the time to properly dry it, that's when I had issue. But like...Many if not most of us are washing our hair
I love your locs! I have locs that I have retwisted every 6-8 weeks and I so ready to go semi free form. So sad that we feel that we have to prove ourselves in so many different ways in so many different arenas. Some are so full of self hate.
I get what she's saying but there's always going to be different schools of thought regarding personal grooming. The same can be said of women (of any race) who don't shave their legs or armpits or don't trim or shave their pubes or people who choose not to wear deodorant because they want to be natural. If a person with naturally straight or wavy hair chose not to comb their hair & "let it do what it do," it would freeform loc, too. 4c hair isn't the only type of hair that gets matted & locs up. I'm black so I definitely understand why & how this is or could be connected the concept of anti-blackness but I can also see how it looks through the eyes of an outsider if they're accustomed to matted hair being connected to being "unkempt" because lack of manipulation (whether intentionally or not) is typically how hair get loc'ed. I do however hate that people feel that they have the right to denigrate people for being different. I see this even within the black community when they feel the need to comment on the size of someone's larger than average nose, lips, hair, skin tone, body type, etc...just for likes. It's almost like they can't be at peace until they verbalize their banal observations to the world. It's sad.
I just can’t imagine getting any satisfaction out of pointing at a young and beautiful and talented black man and telling the world you think he’s dirty. I don’t understand that. Why can’t we publicly protect and uplift each other with all our various textures and styles?
White culture is super narrow minded. If you don’t fit into their box, you are bad in some type of way. There is no freedom if you want to conform. Freedom is when you don’t care about the opinions of all who conform to it. That includes black people. Because many internalized narrow white culture and mentality. Let’s not sell our soul to white culture and sacrifice our true selves and freedom of cultural expression for it.❤
I recently fell into the rabbit hole of "feminine" hygiene TH-cam, where I see (mostly PoC) women using lots and lots of different products on their bodies to smell like some vanilla cupcake ice cream fantasy and the overall vibe seemed kinda off to me (in a "you need top scrub off every last layer of your skin to finally be less than disgusting"-kind of way) - I would be so interested in your take on this subject, since I have only found very little people on the internet commenting on this.
Love this video. What is that saying, " ignorance is bliss". Obviously. I feel that all the haters of free form are really just jealous because we are doing something different and natural. The reality is that free formers in general are using much less product in our hair and it is much more cleaner. We use natural shampoos and aren't putting all the gunk in our dreads that the manicured loc wearers do. I just hold my head up proudly and strutt my stuff. Peace
I agree people with free-form locks need to be allowed to have them without judgment or at the very least, without ridicule. One thing though, I will argue that manipulating ones hair and being seen as proper /more respectable( though clean is a stretch)is NOT a eurocentric standard. Our african ancestors and many tribes took pride in manipulating their hair as a form of status(mainly with intricate braided or stretched styles) long before the Europeans. Now we can comment on the potential classism there but that's a whole other argument. To make it seem like free-form locs is this staple in black African culture is a stretch. Most of our black African ancestors wouldn't be crazy about it either, especially on women.
something i noticed is ppl love to have locks and say how beautiful they are but then stop saying this when it comes to free form. bc nobody wants the ""dirty"" type of locs.
Off topic but you know what else I love , when 4cers let their hair clump form then shape it into geometrical fros of different shapes. I don’t see it as much in this era- hoping it will come back. My husband and two of our children have beautiful 4c hair. My husbands locs were free form started. It’s amazing how when this hair type is left in it’s natural state it intuitively knows what to do💛 The majority of people who come at the hygiene of free forms and 4c hair in general are the type of people who will leave the house with a filthy kitchen full of dirty dishes Chile bye. Love your channel Mayowa.
Aibo sis loving the maroon and gold eye makeup ❤ Honestly I admire people who have the confidence to rock free form locks I always say I will and braid my hair and let it grow out for months at a time but as soon as it starts to fluff up I get freaked out and undo them and do it again so it still looks like braids
It’s so embarrassing and sad these people are shaming other black people for existing in the ways we probably existed before. It’s free form locs, FREE it’s the hair doing what it do! Sigh
Hello, my point exactly like I know a lot of people who down talk freeform dreads, but way back in the day taper cuts and perfect parts wasn't even a thing like that until now, do u sister! Have a good day! #everything said humbly
People are always being ignorant, discriminative, racist, prejudice and judgemental. Always assuming and sending bad energy. As long as I don't have to be involved with individuals, that I may not agree with their look, then I could care less about even commenting about people.
Meanwhile there are "palm colored " people (I like that) online bragging about not washing frequently and saying washcloths are a lower class and Black thing! However, paleness and straight hair = clean in this society so if you're not that ...
This! a little off subject. While discussing basketball an old boss (Japanese woman) said out loud that James hardens beard looked dirty. I didn’t understand why it made me uncomfortable at first, it’s just a beard?! But now I do.
People just don't like the truth 😅. If his hair looks dirty then its probably dirty period. I have freeforms and I wash my hair every week. Stay clean guys. Cleanliness is next to godliness.
It’s funny how we’ll sometimes wear wigs without washing the cornrows underneath for months and then call freeform locs dirty. It says a lot because no style expresses the true coiliness of 4c hair like freeform locs do. With freeform locs you don’t get to hide behind your twist-outs and blow-outs and heartless stretches anymore. It literally forces you to accept yourself. I wish I had the courage to be that free sometimes. I’m getting there.
Yes 🙌🏿. The free form lock is exactly how my hair looks when I take my wig off 😂😂😂
Heartless stretches - beautifully and poignantly put, thank you.
Oh hell no - could never be me 🤮
I can’t make it longer than a week to maybe a week and a half without taking it off and unbraiding my natural hair underneath and immediately washing it before putting a new wig or extension braids on 🤢😖✋
They should shampoo them braids under them wigs.
Why is it locs is the only thing people do to feel connected to 4c hair?
It's especially shocking when people with manicured locs make fun of freeformers and call them dirty. Some people also associate free forming with poverty, assuming you don't have enough money to pay for a retwist.
Yeah as someone with manicured locs I make it my mission to speak out when someone says something bad about freeforms. I don’t understand why people with locs judge freeforms like they are too good for them.
For real, if its not Bob Marley esk people talk mess about you. I wear frizzy twistouts so my hair has a free form look to it even tho its not locd. I remember this dude with locs told me I look like Sideshow bob and that I need to go twist my own hair instead of advertising that I do locs. And said he would never let me touch his locs. I told him hair is energy and I would never want to touch him nor help him. I also told him those constant re-twist are the reason his crown is thinning and locs are splitting and breaking. lmao
@@angelica69 I think because a lot of ppl with manicured locs do it as a trend and only want to achieve a certain look (e.g. the long goddess locs look with laid edges, curly ends, etc. Mayowa did an interesting analysis of that look a while back, too!) Many of them aren't so interested in the natural look/journey of self-acceptance, etc.
@@aberry16 I couldn’t agree more. It’s a trend right now. Those same people with be combing and cutting off their locs as soon as it’s not cool anymore.
@@angelica69 Yep!
It’s the same thing with Afros, Puffs, and buns. If it’s not perfectly curled or coiled with layed edges, it’s not “ done “ . I remember when my mom told me my hair wasn’t “ done “ just because I wore a bun without slicked down edges.
Ignore your mother's ignorant comments and keep doing you
There is no freedom in white narrow culture. Conforming to it means you need to fit into that tiny, narrow box or it’s automatically bad.
That’s why I stopped following that beauty standard all together. I Love triggering those who conform.
We create more space 💗💗💗
The slick edges discrimination
Anytime I go out with my type 4 hair (I call it that bc it’s 4a/b/c throughout by entire head) in its natural state, my parents call it messy and tell me to go fix it e.g. cover it or find a way to make it look more “presentable”.
I’ve had this same sentiment/revelation for a while… its crazy. And, i think some people don’t want to have that discussion because anti-blackness is deeply rooted in their everyday lives. I think people are more comfortable with posting black squares on instagram than to talk about ANTI-BLACKNESS.
Not only is it the fear of talking about it. It’s also the consequences of knowing, now taking accountability and changing behavior.
Your makeup is EATINGGGG and your hair is why I have locs now and I LOVEEEDD my loose hair
I think it’s a form of projecting.
Historically speaking Europe was known to be dirty and the people practiced bad hygiene. Illnesses were a big problem, high child mortality rate, etc. All linked to bad hygiene.
Even the plague that killed Europeans like no other was so heavy because of bad hygiene.
Guess what. It was a black people from north west Africa called the Moors who taught whites how to properly clean themselves and brought their superior medicine.
It was Africans who saved Europeans existence because of that.
In Germany not too long ago streets, pharmacies, bakerys or chocolate was named after the moors because of their contribution to their society. There were little images of black men in uniforms at the pharmacies too depict the moors. It has been removed now because it was also associated with racism. But since i realized the true root of racism is extreme envy and jealousy it made sense. They project their own image on us, while appropriating and strealing from us. It’s a culture of envy. We can not relate, because we come from abundance.
Lesson: Don’t save or help a culture of envy.
This was DEEP.
Yeah even way back then the treacherous Moors swooped in saving these barbarians and put ww on a pedestal which lead to their downfall. Now fast forward to today🥴
Yup. Where was the Black Plague? EUROPE. Who brought all those diseases halfway across the world and wiped out almost whole civilizations? The White colonizers. Smh!
@@johannap7061 Chiiiile! You are so right and the truth hurts!
@@johannap7061 A people who don’t learn from history will repeat history.
Not the people who don’t use washcloths/loofahs/sponges worrying about the cleanliness of Freeform locs. 🥴
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Exactly!
I love you girl... finally, someone who respects the form... ppl think im either homeless or on drugs because the back of my freeforms are super matted smh I work as a beautician and the dirty stuff i see up underneath these wigs smh salt looks like sugar ppl....
This! I'm old enough to remember when weaves became more "affordable". I used the quotations because sisters would have them in for like 2 months to get their money's worth despite stench and itching. All the ways we do our hair is creative but some still wondered if my hair was clean/sanitary just because it was natural, so-called 4c hair in twists, an afro puff, etc. It's a shame cos many natural sisters like me were meticulous about hygiene because that's who we were, but also because of the presumption that unstraightened hair meant we'd "let ourselves go" or "didn't care".
Glad you are having these conversations. I wish more people would love their blackness.
I wish more people would practice shutting tf up! It's so annoying social media has given everyone a voice..even for negativity!! Sometimes things don't need to be said out loud, geesh!!
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YES
Anti blackness is real. And everyone has internalized it. Everyone.
For some reason, everyone wants black people, to change who they are and what they look like to mimic European standards and looks.
Sorry, I'm not European. And it's a journey to love yourself for who you are and how you choose to show up in the world.
When black people just show up as who they are, it's a problem for so many people. It's sad AF.
While I personally adore locs and when I had them, they were NOT freeform. Even for me, freeform locs show me my own internalized anti blackness. You have really helped me with that Mayowa.
It's deep. I'm currently growing my hair out now and I'm going semi free form! I'm excited!
When you say everyone, it really is everyone. I have a brother who's white with very eurocentric features, all except for his hair, which is a tight, curly texture. When it's long it's practically an afro. We have no black relatives, he's just white with tightly curled hair. And he's always hated it, when he was a kid he would cry for hours because all he wanted was straight hair. And recently he's finally found something for his hair texture that he'd actually like and feel beautiful in. He wants locks. But our dad literally told him not to get them because they were dirty.
@@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3 That story was deep. Thank you for sharing.
That’s awesome, I’m happy for you ❤
Beautifully said.💗💗💗
But then, when you are your natural as well because they are jealous that they cannot have confidence to pride themselves in the natural. Whatever it is there is no winning. I've got made fun of for the way I talk, interests hobbies etc (being white) then I got made fun of for wearing my hair 'natural' and called a birds nest. We never win and yeah it was all from black people.......
The over-obsession with cleanliness in the African diaspora is rooted in colonialism, and the internalization and weaponization of it from us against others in the diaspora are egregiously anti-Black. We need more conversations like this. Thank you for sharing 💜
Yess I was watching a video about this recently
Can't rem her name but I think you could search "cleanliness in the black community" and it may come up
It's a long video like 20 somn minutes
And it’s crazy because Europeans were the ones living in filth!
@@EmpressAshe is it “Black Women and the Hygiene Olympics”? I just saw that one
@@Hayat-vl8xw idk it sounds familiar, probably
Edit: Yesss it is, I now searched it and yup that's the title
@@EmpressAshe Yes from Intelexual Media! I love her channel, very informative.
Im from Miami where we have heavy "loc culture" here. Freeform is common and the norm. The majority of our people down here are haitian and jamaican, with the history of those two nations brought together in one place anti black sentiments dont stand a chance against us locheads. Growing locs has become a tradition for us. And rightfully so.
Nah fr… thank you for making this video. Even within the natural hair community, people use the same tired ass anti black speaking points to come for people with freeforms and semi-freeforms.
My hair isn't the super dense texture that you are calling 4c but I stopped getting my locs rolled and interlocked and all of it, 5 years ago in May. It isn't shiny. The new growth is like fuzz and some of it refuses to join existing locs. Three years ago on Christmas eve my sister attacked me saying it was dirty. Mind you she didnt know it was free forming until I told her I wasn't getting it done anymore. She said I would look like the dope heads on the street. And my mother said "thank you". Like it validates her and makes me the one who is wrong. I came home and told my daughter and she was shocked that they did that. Then she said don't worry mommy. So I took her advice.
That's so sad.
Sometimes, the strength and confidence you possess makes others uncomfortable….your hair is beautiful, never let anyone tell you otherwise 😘
Two words: THE PLAGUE! These ppl need to keep quiet when it comes to cleanliness.
Also, lil sis I love the top ponytail on you! Very pretty.
The notion of people thinking that blackness is just "dirt" you can scrub off sounds bizarre but unfortunately, it happens more often than we think. My black friend-of-a-friend was at a pool and a person legit came up to them and tried scrubbing off the back of their hand to see if the colour comes off. So bizarre
I believe you. Even as a child, most colorism tormenting involved being called dirt or dirty at some point; no matter who the taunting was coming from.
Its so annoying how black ppl been saying they dont wash their hair often and all the lil white girls wanna say we r dirty but now a couple white ppl r gettin popular on yt for havin really long hair n r sayin they only wash their hair once a month and for some reason thats just completely accepted.
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Facts! I’ve noticed this too!
Yup, very true
YT women also say they don't shower everyday or like once a week
Afro hair, more so 4c hair, in its natural / virgin state (washed, uncombed, unprocessed chemically) just normally and naturally forms clumps and the beginnings of what we now call free form locs. Before our ancestors created combs, platting, braiding, and Bantu knots, I am certain this is the natural state they will have kept it in. Our hair was never meant to be combed and certainly not with the tools and manner in which Caucasian type hair is because such treatment easily causes breakage and stumps growth. When Afro hair is left together, unmanipulated, , it grows long and strong, a reflection of our communal African societies - (together we are strong and we thrive). When combed into individual strands, reminiscent of individualistic European societies, it becomes weak, breaks and fails to grow.
that's so true
EVERYBODY's hair, in its natural/virgin state (washed, uncombed, unprocessed chemically), just normally and naturally forms clumps. If white people do not comb their hair, tangles appear. It becomes matted. The comb changed things up for EVERYBODY. There are things about our hair that are very different. There are also similar things about our hair because we're all human. The ways in which we choose to style our hair are what is special and unique and worth appreciating.
@@musicalbenchesEXACTLY!!!
I’m so glad to hear your show went well!!!❤❤❤Congratulations!
This came right on time w/ Intelexual Media's recent video about Black women and hygiene. She discussed hygiene more broadly instead of focusing on hair, but a lot of the themes you discussed about proving cleanliness was discussed there too.
the double edged sword is a real thing but they are really busy playing towards the white gaze. Its awful seeing the self betrayal
Because everyone is for Basquiat and his copycats, or the super neat locs that come on mixed folks.
@@cmg25 it's actually the Opposite for mixed ppl
Free-form locs on mix ppl Don't look like hers in the video or the man own
Hers and his looks Way More neat and individually formed
Mix own come out Way Different
I don't understand why people are so obsessed with other people's hair. To much stuff going on in the world to be trying to figure out or assume someone hair is dirty. Just becomes it there natural hair growing from the scalp. I would say instead of wearing about them wearing about yourself. And how about showing kindness that's goes a long way instead of being negative for no reason at all.
I have locs, not free form, but my hair and scalp are just as clean, if not cleaner that when I simply wore my hair natural. Besides regular cleansing and rinsing, I use oils that have antimicrobial and antifungal properties. Some of the oils I use are organic coconut oil, grape seed oil, and frankincense oil. This is part of my daily personal hygiene for the care of my hair and scalp and not how I am viewed by OTHER folks.
I use coconut oil but I'll try the other two now that I'm semi freeform and stopped retwisting
Congrats on your show, sis!!!
It’s actually nuts that ppl have the audacity and nerve to come for free form locs. I have three little ones and my middle sons hair wants to loc so bad. Literally two days after a wash locs will start trying to form. I’ve been saying I’m just going let nature take course soon and they’re going to be gorgeous.
The cold part... Africans INTRODUCED bathing and oral hygiene to the west. My how the turn tables have turned...😂😂😂 just the fact that we even have to discuss this is annoying. I have manicured locs and I'm just so tired of the hygiene Olympics out here.🙄
I feel like someone needs to ask if he's okay. Internet collectively hating on someone like that is so hurtful. Is he ok?
Sis! What camera are you using?? I always love your eye makeup but your actual eyes are GORGEOUS!! The charity of this camera is like you’re right here! Anyway, I love and appreciate your videos. I consider myself to be conscious but I find myself checking myself after viewing some of your content. Just shows there are so many layers to this and even the most knowledgeable can learn so much more. Thanks for being such a great voice 🥰
Yes her eyes are very pretty! I see them more in this video!
First of all, congrats on your show in Berlin….you look amazing👏🏽
Second, every word you spoke was truth and I’m grateful we’re living in a time where commentators like you are calling out the self hate among black people and other POC.
Maybe if we had more TH-cam videos that showed the Freeform Locs process it could allow more people to understand and respect the process🤔
I’m here for the discourse but I must say the eye looks have been absolutely EATING as of late
The real issue is drying 4C hair NOT washing it.
I have a stand up dryer that I can sit under because I realized as my hair grew longer it was not completely drying. I sit under the dryer and than blow dry my roots before doing my really big twists.
I tested with air drying stretched hair it takes three days to dry and natural no stretching a full week.
It has to be a really hot like the equator of Madagascar for my hair to dry within 15 minutes, the Caribbean Summer 30 minutos and the dog days of Summer in NYC? 45 minutes.
Making sure my hair is throughly dry inside means no more itchy scalp. It was like my scalp had a tummy ache.
Yes my scalp itches when it stays wet for too long so I have to use a dryer after I was it too. I tried washing my hair once a week and the dermatologist said I was over washing my hair causing a dry scalp and dry brittle hair. Every 2 weeks is perfect for me
If you don't want them, don't wear them, if you dont like them aesthetically don't look? ESPECIALLY if you wont be able to keep your opinions to yourself!!!!!
I just want to stop by and say your hair looks beautiful and the makeup is 🔥🔥🔥
You're right about all of this! I don't think these locs are dirty at all.
We're the cleanest people on the planet, them other folks don't even wash their hands. People are jokes.
My sister used to say locs in general are dirty so ya, its not just the freedom ones 😒
Love your makeup in this video 😍
this. sometimes there’s a conversation to be had, but*truly* i am confused how anybody can look at this phenomenon and think it’s not at least part anti-Blackness. like, how else can you explain this & how it doesn’t happen to anybody else of any other hair texture?
as somebody with locs with parts rather than freeform , it’s also a great point how we separate ourselves - our hair is controversial but “at least it’s not that!”
thanks for everything & congratulations on your show xo 💓
It makes me mad too sis. So much we need to get back to as black people. A lot of us ain’t going to make it because we are okay with living in a colonized world. Really sad. But I keep moving north in my mind😀😀😀
This!
It looks dirty tho, like idk his habits or personal life but I don't blame ppl for thinking its dirty looking💀
@Arinze no I can't see dirt but I can't see his scalp and it his hair looks very matted and hard to properly clean so that's why I could understand why ppl assume its dirty. Also it just looks a hot mess💀. He can do what he wants but that doesn't mean I have to love it and agree with it
Your locs look beautiful ❤
History set the cleanest woman in Europe who took a bath once a year. Now the focus is on Black people and natural.
I recently started watching your channel and I love your content. Also you look really pretty, love the eye look 💕
PREACH! alot of black men got self hate, doing what you said, shaving head to hide their texture and pressing hair down with caps.
Yep. Trying to get waves and all
It’s called a hair preference…..
Your look is giving me LIFFFE and THIS conversation!
I have 4c hair. Let's make something clear, just because a black person doesn't like dreads does not mean they are anti-black. We as black people have a right to a different opinion. I would not ever publicly say someone's dreads are nasty. Me myself I dont like the look , but some people do and that's their business. I DONT ALLOW ANYONE TO PUT ME IN ANY TYPE OF BOX AND NONE OF US SHOULD DESPITE WHAT ETHNIC GROUP WE BELONG TO. STAY BLESSED AND THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Amen and Amen! On point as always 💯
I'M SO SICK OF PEOPLE BEING SO OBSESSED WITH BLACK WOMEN HAIR , DAMN LEAVE US TF ALONE ‼️‼️‼️
WORRY ABOUT YALL HAIR NOT OURS SHIT , THIS WHY EVERYTIME MY FRIEND TALKS BAD ABOUT A BLACK WOMEN HAIR I STAND UP AND DEFEND RIGHT AWAY LIKE NO STFU ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
No shut up you find every reason to complain if you complain you stay the same.
The people you speak about being obsessed with black women’s hair appear to be black. Caucasians have no idea about any of this. Nobody who was a “colonialist” has walked the earth for centuries. Own your issues.
I always kinda got that vibe by how compulsive or made fun of people get for not getting a lineup every 2 weeks, or not showing their scalp and having uniform locks with square visible sections. on the flip side, I can see where some people may be coming from with the giant 4inch diameter + locks, seeming like it could be hard to wash, but either way, its not a good look, and not a good thing to support to bring down your own people
Bring back shame! Facts cause I won't be bullied out of my natural state. Thank you for sharing divine
Tragic cuz I was in the Zurich airport and the same shit happened to me…didn’t nobody wash dey hands after using the toilet…but y’all wanna worry about niggas washing. Ok
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You need to come to the UK OMG me and my friends love you ❤️
This is 4 Sure Gonna b so Informative🔥🔥🔥👍n Happy Saturday😀….
I totally agree with you on the fiery darts thrown at us, by us. It’s stupid for us to do that to each other. I have hair that has been locked for 2 years 4 months. I went to an acquaintance’s elderly mom’s, decided to help him take bagged food into her home, only to have her insult my hair. She told me that she didn’t “like” my hair like this and that it looks “real silly.” 😳 I was completely blindsided by this, but I replied by telling her that this is the way my hair grows naturally from my scalp and to take it up with the creator.
The discrimination is real! I knew a black guy who was disappointed that his biracial son chose to wear his natural curly hair in coils ( loc appearance). I knew then we were going to have problems.
Girl, I'm glad you finally said it in the video because these colonizers are not really that clean. I've lived in England and travelled around Europe and the STENCH I've been subjected to is unparalleled.
I lived in NYC for 5 years. In the summertime on the subway, it smells like LITERAL wet , sweaty dog and the smell is coming from them. I've even observed that in train cars where there were only black people, I've never smelled it. Many people in NY know this and talk about it, the smell is nauseating.
Ewwww lol
As a brit but also a south asian, youre right. some white people are really nasty and convinced that they're not l think it's also due to their parents never teaching them how to take care of themselves as well as youve put a lack of pressure they face by society that minorities do to prove they are clean.
Sorry but calling modern europeans colonizers?
Don’t be jealous. Losers will always be losers. You should hear what we say about YOUR stench 😂
Your makeup is makeuping!!!! Please do a how-to for your eyeshadow, I love the colors on you
The over obsession with cleanliness is definitely anti black because we see it all the time in things like housing, where people literally will not want to rent an apartment if they learn a Black family previously lived in it or a house - the realtors will literally mark a house value down by THOUSANDS if they know a Black family owned it before. Experienced it myself with renting, landlords (White and Hispanic ones) always treated my family like we were never clean enough to be living in their rundown buildings. Everyone's mind is supremely colonized. Their hate of Blackness is directly linked to their hatred of Mama Earth that birthed them! A shame.
First of all I’m black but “mated” hair is always associated with negligence therefore someone with free form locs is the perfect victim,which is a stereotype.If one has ordinary locs there’s control in size,style etc
In my opinion our natural hair texture is not mated.
Like, my father always say, If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all...
Anime freak…💯🎤mic drop…
I'm not proving cleanliness to colonizers that most people's they were subjugating could smell coming.
I don't know what kind of grooming goes with free-form locs. For me my issue with protective styling wasn't washing but drying. Cleaning wasn't an issue, but if I didn't take the time to properly dry it, that's when I had issue. But like...Many if not most of us are washing our hair
omg sold out show!!! you’re a star babe 😭❤️
I love your locs! I have locs that I have retwisted every 6-8 weeks and I so ready to go semi free form. So sad that we feel that we have to prove ourselves in so many different ways in so many different arenas. Some are so full of self hate.
I get what she's saying but there's always going to be different schools of thought regarding personal grooming. The same can be said of women (of any race) who don't shave their legs or armpits or don't trim or shave their pubes or people who choose not to wear deodorant because they want to be natural. If a person with naturally straight or wavy hair chose not to comb their hair & "let it do what it do," it would freeform loc, too. 4c hair isn't the only type of hair that gets matted & locs up.
I'm black so I definitely understand why & how this is or could be connected the concept of anti-blackness but I can also see how it looks through the eyes of an outsider if they're accustomed to matted hair being connected to being "unkempt" because lack of manipulation (whether intentionally or not) is typically how hair get loc'ed.
I do however hate that people feel that they have the right to denigrate people for being different. I see this even within the black community when they feel the need to comment on the size of someone's larger than average nose, lips, hair, skin tone, body type, etc...just for likes. It's almost like they can't be at peace until they verbalize their banal observations to the world. It's sad.
I just can’t imagine getting any satisfaction out of pointing at a young and beautiful and talented black man and telling the world you think he’s dirty. I don’t understand that. Why can’t we publicly protect and uplift each other with all our various textures and styles?
White culture is super narrow minded. If you don’t fit into their box, you are bad in some type of way. There is no freedom if you want to conform.
Freedom is when you don’t care about the opinions of all who conform to it. That includes black people.
Because many internalized narrow white culture and mentality.
Let’s not sell our soul to white culture and sacrifice our true selves and freedom of cultural expression for it.❤
K Brown…💯🎤mic drop…
Your makeup is flawless 🤩🤩
I recently fell into the rabbit hole of "feminine" hygiene TH-cam, where I see (mostly PoC) women using lots and lots of different products on their bodies to smell like some vanilla cupcake ice cream fantasy and the overall vibe seemed kinda off to me (in a "you need top scrub off every last layer of your skin to finally be less than disgusting"-kind of way) - I would be so interested in your take on this subject, since I have only found very little people on the internet commenting on this.
My thing is how do they not know that these very things that they say can be said about them. THAT IS HOW YOU LOOK NATURALLY!!!
Love this video. What is that saying, " ignorance is bliss". Obviously. I feel that all the haters of free form are really just jealous because we are doing something different and natural. The reality is that free formers in general are using much less product in our hair and it is much more cleaner. We use natural shampoos and aren't putting all the gunk in our dreads that the manicured loc wearers do. I just hold my head up proudly and strutt my stuff. Peace
Thank you so much Mayowa for this video!!
Mayowa you are such a Queen! 🥺 👑❤
Points were made, period.
Btw I really love this makeup!! #tutorialplease
I agree people with free-form locks need to be allowed to have them without judgment or at the very least, without ridicule. One thing though, I will argue that manipulating ones hair and being seen as proper /more respectable( though clean is a stretch)is NOT a eurocentric standard. Our african ancestors and many tribes took pride in manipulating their hair as a form of status(mainly with intricate braided or stretched styles) long before the Europeans. Now we can comment on the potential classism there but that's a whole other argument.
To make it seem like free-form locs is this staple in black African culture is a stretch. Most of our black African ancestors wouldn't be crazy about it either, especially on women.
Hn Cuh people gone judge y’all just soft ash get over yourself the word don’t revolve around you
something i noticed is ppl love to have locks and say how beautiful they are but then stop saying this when it comes to free form. bc nobody wants the ""dirty"" type of locs.
Wow your hair is incredible! Mad respect 4 all who chose free form loc route! ❤
Love this mayowa 🙏🏽💕 thank you just thank you for promoting true love for blackness 🥹 I’m loccing my hair and it has been such an experience.
Off topic but you know what else I love , when 4cers let their hair clump form then shape it into geometrical fros of different shapes. I don’t see it as much in this era- hoping it will come back. My husband and two of our children have beautiful 4c hair. My husbands locs were free form started. It’s amazing how when this hair type is left in it’s natural state it intuitively knows what to do💛
The majority of people who come at the hygiene of free forms and 4c hair in general are the type of people who will leave the house with a filthy kitchen full of dirty dishes Chile bye. Love your channel Mayowa.
Aibo sis loving the maroon and gold eye makeup ❤
Honestly I admire people who have the confidence to rock free form locks I always say I will and braid my hair and let it grow out for months at a time but as soon as it starts to fluff up I get freaked out and undo them and do it again so it still looks like braids
P.S.: Congrats on your Show🎉🔥🔥🔥👍….
It’s so embarrassing and sad these people are shaming other black people for existing in the ways we probably existed before. It’s free form locs, FREE it’s the hair doing what it do! Sigh
I feel ashamed it still happens in 2023😢
Hi Mayowa,
I noticed that you edited your bikini picture in the intro. I hope this was your preference and not YT's censoring.
Love you sis.
Anyway your eyes are gorgeous 😊
Ayeeeee! My Friend! I have missed you o!
I know this has nothing to do the video but you never fail to serve a look 😍
You have told no lies. P.S. Your skin is glowing❣️
It looks clean to me. Ppl seem very spooked about our hair. Oh well
Hello, my point exactly like I know a lot of people who down talk freeform dreads, but way back in the day taper cuts and perfect parts wasn't even a thing like that until now, do u sister! Have a good day! #everything said humbly
That intro gets me everytime 🗣🗣
People are always being ignorant, discriminative, racist, prejudice and judgemental. Always assuming and sending bad energy. As long as I don't have to be involved with individuals, that I may not agree with their look, then I could care less about even commenting about people.
No hand washing business happens America...just saying😆😄😆😄😆😄😆😄
Meanwhile there are "palm colored " people (I like that) online bragging about not washing frequently and saying washcloths are a lower class and Black thing! However, paleness and straight hair = clean in this society so if you're not that ...
This! a little off subject. While discussing basketball an old boss (Japanese woman) said out loud that James hardens beard looked dirty. I didn’t understand why it made me uncomfortable at first, it’s just a beard?! But now I do.
I hope you come back to Berlin soon ❤️
You earned a subscriber today my sister
People just don't like the truth 😅. If his hair looks dirty then its probably dirty period. I have freeforms and I wash my hair every week. Stay clean guys. Cleanliness is next to godliness.
Looks like u got gray hair growing in the front, come on wisdom 😻
Take no notice. They probably think that dark skin is just layers of dirt too! I just laugh!
Love your content
First off THAT HAIR HAS DEFINITE MOLD GROWING IN IT SOOOOOOO IT'S NOT ATTACKING ANYONE
Facts