please understand even with my soft hair I would have hair hats coming at me talking about some I will look so much better with a 55-in weave now mind you these same bald headed no edges fat chicks when they take they wigs off or they weaves down for new install and come to work with a scarf on have traction alopecia absolutely no hair at all but you want to tell me what to do 😶whatever it is you doing🤔 I'm not going to do how about that...
@@wildwaymonee8o8 it be the loudest ones gurl😂😂 for me the only reason I wear weaves is bc I shaved my hair off recently so it can regrow bc it was severely damaged from relaxers when I was younger so I stopped wearing it out as much bc it was uneven and dry and my scalp was scabbed and bleeding so I just stuck to protective styles but since my hair is too short for braids and faux locks and all that I now just stick to wigs
@@Im_Zion .. I understand what you can do is try black castor oil I know it sounds old school but it works... the black castor oil will clear up the scabs in your scalp and stop the bleeding... next thing you know you got all this new growth
Natural hair community be toxic for no reason. Her hair isn’t “curly” enough. Or too “nappy”. But if she got a relaxer??? They would’ve been up in flames!
That's why so many 4c natural "influencers" are leaving the platform. If it isn't bouncy, curly, and easily manageable the natural hair community doesn't want it.
Because as a community, we get separated and separate ourselves by class, color, gender, sexuality, and beauty standards. And not realizing we have fallen into the division trap and doing WS’s work for them.
The internet is so hypocritical, if your a black woman and get relaxer you apparently "don’t love your self", and if you rock your natural hair you look "unkept and dirty" wtf???? They tell people to be confident and rock their natural selves but then drag them when it doesn’t fit there beauty standards
That's exactly what has been bothering me so much. Like goddamn just let people have their hair however they like and do with it what they want! It's their hair and not yours! I don't understand how that's so hard to understand.
the problem however is that this isn't even the issue.. if you are curvy you are too fat.. if you are skinny you are immideately thrown things like oh you must be anorexic! eat some more! like no what ?
Mayowa straight up made me go from covering my hair with wigs and turbants because I didn't feel comfortable showing my hair in zoom meetings to wearing my natural hair out without givinga f*ck. She is a gem that need s to be protected❤
I just loc’d my hair in February and just found her yesterday and she is a HUGE encouragement for me in my “awkward” phase. I love my hair and my hair LOVES being loc’d!
Their page is gone. Thank goodness. Natural hair shouldn’t be controversial. All these people run around talking about how “God is good all the time” and “God is greater” and “God don’t make mistakes” -- except for natural hair?! WTF. To hell with all of them.
“She doesn’t have 4c hair, she has locs” literally took me out 😫😫😫😫 babe fuck them. You’re beautiful inside and out from head to toe. You’re genetics are blesseddddd!!! Let the lost stay stranded.
Can someone KINDLY educate me? Because I thought that her hair is in free form locs. It is beautiful but it is in locs no? And locs texture isn’t the same as loose hair.
@@caroll9698 Her natural texture is 4c but it is in locs. If she takes out the locs it's still going to be 4c. If I take out my locs, I'm still going to be 4a. Your hair is locked within itself but its doesn't change your texture like a relaxer does.
One of my subbies just shared this video with me, the fact that you have to endure such ignorance is unacceptable. 4C hair is THE most versatile hair pattern, and I’m so over people’s close-minded narratives they try to push on everyone, shouting their prejudices from the rooftops like it’s acceptable. Your hair, skin, features are all gorgeous. Thank you for sharing your experience 💚
Am sorry to say this but some stylist are the worst. On Instagram there are many saying that 4c hair that can't wash and go is unhydrated hair. When in actuality the coils are so small it's hard to see. I don't know why some of these stylist are obsessed with making these coils as visible as possible.
This is why I don't follow natural hair pages. They claim to embrace all hair textures but the majority of hair posted doesn't reflect what I see on a daily, and their communities are so toxic.
There used to be a sister with a 4c hair care channel called Nappy Fu TV. There is no point in watching natural hair channel if the natural hair isn’t similar to one’s own. I wouldn’t watch a natural ringlet curl hair channel bec my hair isn’t like that. I’m not saying you did. But Nappy Fu TV 📺 was a 4c natural hair channel.
agreed . I'm one of those soft hair people and have had people literally walk up to me and say.. I wish I could go natural like you . but you know.. you got good hair . so it's easier for you🤯😭.. I'm like you know what your wrong... u gotta learn to love YOURSELF first Sis.. I don't subscribe to the nonsense from white washed blacks😶🤨
@@wildwaymonee8o8 literally. I’m a 3c 3b mix and I never fail to get comments FROM OTHER BLACK PEOPLE saying “oh if I had your texture I would have went natural too” or “you lucky you got good hair” “your hair is easy to do cause it’s pretty” “you got mixed girl hair”. Mind you I’m brownskin and not mixed or even mixed looking. And don’t even get me started on the “are you mixed” comments. Seriously, we need to do better.
The fact that the page says BLM too... like you can’t only care about the light skin black lives or the black lives with laid edges and clean cut locs... 🤦🏽♀️
“If your entire page is a ‘natural hair’ page and you put a picture of me with my natural hair and get so much hate, that literally proves that your page isn’t for people who have natural hair. Your page is for people who have acceptable black hair texture that society wants to see.” #micdropmoment 💯
Well she said she’s African so it’s mean to be a little different from us who aren’t primarily African descent. That hair grade shit is some white washed trash anyway I still ain’t found my hair style lmao😂
i hâte those sneak dissing pages the shade borough for example.. they say “thoughts? 👀” knowing damn well what they’re doing. i don’t understand how grown ass people can be so bitter for what?
just say theshaderoom😭 a lot of those black social media (pop culture) pages are so toxic it’s disgusting. and the people who follow those pages are so ignorant. i can’t wait for black people to stop supporting those pages.
I had to unsubscribe from several channels including a couple of black women who are content creators because they want personal thoughts and opinions but when you tell them why or why you don’t agree but are still being nice about it some of them come at there supporters very angry and mean but it’s not okay because we as viewers want to support them but they judge there viewers for what they can and can’t say or do because we aren’t them. It’s upsetting honestly.
hearing how they called you ugly for "unkept" hair on an UPLIFTING NATURAL HAIR page actually made me lose braincells how can people be so ignorant and toxic. I am so sorry you had to go through that, you do NOT deserve that. You are so beautiful, ALL of you!!
@@shelleyferguson5737 easiest response ever!! “Some hate DOESN’T come from black women” So? It shouldn’t be pointed out? Plus, You literally said what I said but in other words... “If there is no enemy within, the enemy outside can do us no harm”
Yes literally, like I’ll post a tik tok doing a my lil dance and so many unsolicited opinions come at me. “Take your wig off” “wash your makeup off” “ur so fat” like damn can I have fun on here like everyone else? Am I perfect? No but I should still be able to have confidence without being torn down
“She doesn’t have 4c hair; she has locs” 😭😭😭 THE FACE you made after telling us about that comment. I’m DEAD over here. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE LOCS??? ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️
As a white Irish woman this makes me incredibly sad that you are being shaded for being the exact natural hair type that they exist to promote. Keep being your authentic beautiful self with your integrity and dont take no shit from any bitch. Much love xx
I’m really happy that beautiful people like you exist. You are the type of person that I can listen to for hours. I’m so sorry that you have to endure such disgusting humans!!
Just came across this channel,and yes she's very beautiful! This *hair typing* system is just another way to keep black folk fighting and apart! It really pisses me off🤦🏽♀️ At any rate, no matter the *complexion* or *hair texture* of the *BW* we're *ALL BEAUTIFUL and UNIQUE!* ✊🏽🙂 *ALL*
we all as conscious black women need to fight this for the freedom of our people. dont just say im glad you exist so that you have to go through this. Lets stop with the eurocentric standards
Reason why i unfollowed all these so called natural hair pages that only post a specific hair type with a specific shade. Sorry you went through that the hate for DSBW is real but you know what we're still Winning.
@@merissacooper6539 omg I admire when people do this. So if you don’t mind me asking, could you share a little of your experience of what it’s like living without the app? (Ik how bad this sounds, but I’m super curious lol)
@@mayowasworld don’t feel bad because they got together to take a picture to represent all of the naturals and they were all wearing wigs in the photo smh
I am 57 years old and this is not new. I am so sick of this ignorant bullshit black folks do to other black folks. I am sorry this happened to you but your video shows your strength and intelligence and your will to bounce back and defend yourself and all of us who have happy hair. Your voice is a power keg! Important.
Facts I’m in my mid 30s and ppl have been putting mixed folks on a pedestal ever since I can remember it seems it’s getting worst idk if it’s because of social media …..?
I can’t stand the natural hair community now. It was started by mostly 4c woman years before Twitter and Instagram. Mainstream took over and RUINED it 😡. Sorry this happened to you
Girl...this "community" was before 4c hair and before instagram and twitter. You're really new to the game. Lol. I went natural before then and there was a community before then and we were on forums and fotki and most people did not claim to even have 4c hair.
Also 4c girls are like a cult, 4b hair girls like me don’t even fit in. Edit: I commented before I watch the video, I’m sorry that happened to you before are disgusting.
@@sweetchocolate7113 I agree!! Good thing I knew/know who I am... My locs were not a hairstyle... they were my crown!! And thank you Love!! I appreciate you!!
It's honestly disgusting how quick people are to attack women for being their authentic selves. Colourism is incredibly destructive. It's beautiful to see you call out and educate people on social issues.
They dragged you because you read them for filth. By dragging you, they exposed their own internal hatred for real 4c hair, and projected that on to you. I have 4c hair like yours and one Natural hair influencer in these social media streets with the "wavy 4c hair" told me that my hair isn't 4c, it is dry after I enquired about her "wavy 4c hair." I was appalled because if it was, it would break and lack lustre, but it doesn't. She went on how 4c hair is different, there is porosity and yada yada. The porosity has nothing to do with the texture which is what the argument was about. You did a slide where you called light skinned women who write in colorism. I feel that these 3c -4a influencers are doing the same thing when it comes to natural hair. A South African hair influencer who has been in the natural hair game for a long time also called them out on how they still cater to the Eurocentric gaze because they hardly sell the kink and coil. I mean, it's amazing that you can silk press your natural hair and create waves or any other manipulation, but the truth is in the long-term, it does damage your hair and thins it. She posted herself wearing an elegant gown with her kinky afro and wrote on why she believes kink can be elegant and how natural hair influencers lie about the time and methods it took to grow their hair. She was right because how can you grow 4c hair to back length in 18 months without protective styles and your hair was not even reaching your neck? This is why I started freeforming. With freeforming, there are no rushed expectations, there is no manual for rapid hair growth, but you know your hair is growing. I stopped chasing the huge afro look because watching these people made me feel more insecure than I thought and self-conscious. You are so beautiful and smart and I'm happy with your content. Keep calling out for their filth. They are so stuuuuuupiiiiid!!
I'm tired of people saying that if your hair looks really kinky that it's dry or we're not taking care of it. As annoying as shrinkage is, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not ugly. We are too obsessed with defining and curls and trying to make it look different and too observant with length.
@gensai93 Right?! It is so annoying how these NHIs try to convince us that our hair is dry or it is not being taken care of. They are so obsessed with length than they are with growth. Real growth. These length checks annoy me. Like who, with 4c hair, does length checks? Eeuw.
@@gensai93 Fr once I argued with a girl on the internet because she was insulting another girl just because her edges were bad... Like, really ? It's crazy.
Agree 100%. Especially about people lying about growing hair so fast to certain lengths. I know we all grow hair at different rates but sometimes you can tell it's all made up.
Exactly I see black women praising loose curls and “type 4a and 4b” and it’s sad when they wanna call kinkier hair knappy and ugly because it doesn’t “curl” like you guys want to yell all black hair beautiful then it’s black on black crime once you behind closed doors
I've also noticed how xenophobic black Americans are towards other black people of another ethnicity, mostly if your from Africa and have very strong Afrocentric features. We're all black and we all go through the same struggle shaming other black people just because they arent american is only going to create more division. We already have division in our community with the light skin vs brown skin vs dark skin, so lets solve problems instead of creating more. fixing what's going on in our community will solve 75 of our problems
It sucks because 4c hair is rarely included in the “celebration” of natural hair. I always feel good when people compliment my hair because that’s a rarity. They say “nappy” like it’s a bad thing. I love my hair tho. I’m so sorry you had to go through this. Then again, f*ck them.
@cigar, I think that being trolled to trigger. Crazy right. It happens, however it opens my eyes to issues I never thought about...You sound like cool person. Be safe out here!🥰
So sorry you went through that I wanna throw hands to everyone who fixed their fingers to talk about your natural hair, but they’re are just ignorant and self hating mofo’s. You are BEAUTIFUL! ❤️
People don’t realize that when they’re teasing someone on social media they’re teasing an actual PERSON. The disconnect between social media and real life is disgusting and dangerous.
Remove the rotted from our community. New year new challenges. All negative nags are ho longer allowed to sit with is. Only positive people of positive light is allowed. #Grandstand
Black people have been conditioned for CENTURIES to think that our skin, our hair, our bodies, our features and our overall existence is disgusting and ape-like. We will be met with resistance for embracing ourselves, but we, YOU can’t stop posting & uplifting black people & other people of color. You make people feel comfortable with themselves and not shameful for the way we were born. Thank you & stay up Mayowa☺️👏🏽👸🏽
When you call every tan person under the sun 'black' and every hair texture that's not bone straight 'natural', you get ppl who forget what the average West African's hair looks like
I think this is a really shitty take on what Blackness is and what the natural hair movement is. Blackness as a racial concept is ruling in the history of white supremacy and so it is tethered to the existence of descendants of slaves throughout the Western Hemisphere, many of whom are not purely racially "100% African". Throughout my life I have had multiple interactions with people from the Caribbean and Africa who have told me that they are "not black" and that they are *insert name of their home country* so even they themselves are tethering Blackness to white supremacy and its history in the United States of America. only more recently have you started to see mass numbers of Black people from the Caribbean and Africa self-identifying as "Black". I'm only 29 and I remember growing up around African kids who simply did not identify as being "Black". That alone dismantles your argument. The same with natural hair. This was a movement started by Black American women, many of whom do not have 4C texture hair. We can definitely talk about texturism and how all hair textures need to be embraced but what's not going to happen is you are not going to create a new standard of beauty that is rooted in elitist beliefs about racial purity... We've already dealt with that with white supremacy
Your hair is very normal in South Africa, it’s clearly 4C and I have the same hair texture. You’re beautiful and so is your hair I’m so excited I found your channel 🥰
This why I don’t even bother with the community anymore. People with loose curls get to claim 4c but they have a problem with the real thing. You and your hair are beautiful.
True. We also need to be free of the color BS too. I wish there were a way to reprogram us from all of the negativity that was instilled in us from hundreds of years ago.
@Nick The Great I totally agree what ur saying but I think that @aliveandconnected is tryna say is that the existance of the chart in the first place is creating this divide between the hair community.
Now that’s funny because when I used to wear an Afro back in the 70,s we never identified our hair by numbers and alphabets. So when stopped putting the creamy crack in my hair; I started watching you tube videos and discovered this bullshit. Now I want to research the man she said who came up with this dumb shit: abc, 123. Like Mother Earth said now all Aboriginal/Original Indigenous American black women hair can only be natural via letters & numbers. 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤔
aliveandconnected this was an issue before long before Andre Walker's hair coding system came along. The problem is straight up anti-blackness - both from within and outside of the Black community.
i cannot IMAGINE waking up to my own selfie being posted online with the caption "thoughts?" in any context ahhhh that is nightmare fuel. there is no reason they shouldve ever done that.
"If your page is a natural hair page & you put a picture of me, with my hair & it gets so much hate -that literally proves that your page isn't for people who have natural hair. Your page is for people who have acceptable black hair textures that society wants to see." This is SO real, thank you for calling it out. The natural hair 'community' is so damn toxic. You know this already but you are beautiful, your hair is beautiful, KEEP ON SHINING. ❤️
People on twitter are MISERABLE. Please don't feed into that because theres no right answer for shxt on that bird ass app... Don't cry, you're so beautiful, don't let ANY of that get to you.
Chyle the melanin is too intimidating to them. You're beautiful be proud of who you are. People will not always accept you or your style, but it's your own. Peace and light
BOOM!! Thank you!! I felt this way when the whole “wet look” wash and go for 4C was a trend. I was like why would I think my 4C hair will do this? And why will I use a million and one products to try to make my hair look like it’s 2b🙄🙄😐😑
She says she didn't approve of the negative comments under your photo but she "liked" one saying you looked unkempt and dirty and THAT PINNED IT. That's disgusting
@@briggyb either way it’s still kinda hypocritical even if that one comment didn’t spell it out for us (hundreds below it did). the pinned comment was basically calling it unkempt. “4c hair only looks like that if it’s dry and not moisturized” and then went on to describe what *kept* 4c hair looks and feels like. “Tight curls...Soft, bouncy, and healthy.” With very little help from context clues it’s obvious she’s saying that that because her locs are dry and unmoisturized she’s the opposite of the well groomed and well maintained (or kept) 4c hair that her friend has. Saying she *technically* didn’t officially type the word in this one specific comment is splitting hairs and would be disingenuous in my opinion. The page’s intent was still shady af. Saying u don’t approve of the negative comments and then pinning a sneak dissing ass comment with the infamous “thoughts” question is shady afff.
@@leilanidru7506 fair enough. I understand why people are upset. And maybe that was what she meant. In fact, it probably was what she was saying. But we're still making assumptions. I don't know if it's ignorance, being rude, or she just said something that was misinterpreted. I am at a point in my life where I don't have time to make assumptions. It's not worth my energy. Even if I am right 9 out of 10 times, occasionally I read into something and I am wrong. Getting angry doesn't do me any good. There will always be people who are awful. I try to ignore them. There are a lot more wonderful, beautiful souls than there are bad. I am just choosing to see the good. And if it isn't pleasing to God's ears, I try not to say it. No judgement for those of you telling her she was wrong. Even if it was misinterpreted, we all need to try harder. I just have better things to do than call some ignorant person out on the internet, you know? Thanks for the reply though. I genuinely appreciate it. Have a great night. 😊
@@briggyb honestly imo it’s not an assumption. She describes it as unkempt in more ways than one, she just didn’t physically write out the word. But I get what u mean ig. Have a good night too💜
they always say black women hate themselvew for wearing weave but then goes "yOU nEeD a wEaVE" when they cant accept real "natural" hair. Im sorry you went thru this sis, we deserve better.
You’re beautiful, your hair is beautiful and “FUCK THEM KIDS” 💯 And 10:37 , you explained that SO well, it’s crazy how people manipulate then try to play victim smh.
They love their palatable 'natural' hair but the moment it gets too real they show their true colors you are literally so beautiful your energy is so warming, I recently began my loc journey and its truely teaching me to let go off colorist/texturist beauty standards, (I have 4b/4c hair)
The way they asked for “thoughts” like it’s up for debate what kind of hair you have.... like it’s other people’s job to validate YOUR hair 😒 they fully set you up sis call them out
@@ariellesesne5162 I wanted locs growing up but my Grandma wouldn't allow it 😂 She's a strict Jamaican Christian and she said she don't want no rasta in her house 😭😭😭
@@natsohigh5552 Jeez lol I've had them 3 time now & I'm only 24. My father combed mine out when I was in 6th grade. I was so mad smh. He made my brother get a haircut in the opposite room of where he was combing mine out
“i exist in the world as a real person” it’s sad that you have to say that, but also hella real and an important thing for all of your viewers to recognize
That's absolutely disgusting. Your hair is gorgeous, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Also: I love the shells, that is such a cute look, it gives me sea godess vibes :)
Her client's 4C hair is BLONDE and probably STRAIGHTENED REGULARLY, which loosens the curl pattern. That stylist conveniently neglected to consider that though.
I’m not black, but I feel like I have a regular level of common sense to agree and think for myself exactly what is being said in this video. So call me out if I’m wrong, but why the heck would a stylist especially say you have “bad hair” if it can’t turn into this white hairstyle. If you don’t have naturally straight hair, you don’t need to HAVE straight to be considered “good”. It just sounds so dumb and forcing the same white standards without directly saying those words.
@@peaceispossible80 I agree. I feel like this is an important comment--it's not that these people inherently want to put us down, the internal and external hate/misunderstanding/fear, etc. has just been cultivated over generations. Most other communities don't have the same level of oppression or struggle that ours does. I'm not giving the ones who are misguided an excuse--I'm just saying I know why the community is like this.
@@peaceispossible80 Jeez. I can't imagine what that's like. It's depressing that anyone would feel like that's okay--regardless of their age. One has to wonder what they have gone through to be that way, too, you know? I have curlier kinky hair (I guess some 4a and mostly 4b if I were to type it) that gets the ever so insulting "I love your hair--what are you mixed with?". And, like you said--I don't get mad. It's just disappointing. Sometimes I make an effort to educate and enlighten, but I'm truly just tired.~_~ It's like the community has the essence of a dog chasing its tail. But yeah, you said it--the history definitely explains without excusing. I think a lot of people often get those two concepts mixed up.
How you are treated by other Black people is unacceptable and harmful. The self hate and anti-dark skin within the global Black community needs healing. Your 4c locs * IS* Black natural hair. 🖤
The other day another black woman called me “sis” and it actually made me cry because I’ve been sooo shunned for not being the “right kind” of black girl , that to be accepted by someone was so shocking and meaningful to me . Idk, I just randomly wanted to share that to say - Please be kind to each other 💕
Same. Being isolated for "talking white" always made me feel like I didn't fit anywhere. I was too white for my black brothers and sisters and too black for white people so whenever I get called sis by anyone outside of family it makes me feel so included. The first time someone called me sis I cried.
@@princessk2822 my experience is basically parallel to yours , coupled with colorism issues (I’m lighter skinned & Biracial). A lot of not “being black enough” to be accepted by other black women who somehow were “black enough” ( whether that be because of skin color or differences in the way we talked , dressed , or identified with mainstream cultures ). Whenever another black woman is friendly to me , sisterly to me, and wants to include me , it moves me so much . We need to make sure that we’re nurturing each other as black women, not looking for ways to tear each other down 💕
crazy that the community is literally called natural hair but they come at her for having 'unkept' hair. people are praising the 'natural' hair that has treatment in it, but shitting on her actual natural hair.
I noticed that some of the "natural" girls have a curl softener, relaxer, or blow drying their real hair and trying to act like they woke up like that. smh
The type of people who drag you are the ones who are the most insecure in their own skin. They can't feel good about themselves and so they attack others and try to transfer their own insecurities to others. You're beautiful inside and *OUT* !! God Bless you!
It’s pretty disgusting to see that a page trying to talk about loving “natural” hair, and doing shit like this. Calling you names so fucking childish. You are beautiful and so is your hair.
I know this post is 2 years old... but I'm commenting because I have the SAME texture as yours... and I am SO PROUD to see how strong and resilient you've been the years after video. Keep going!!
This is so true I felt terrible once I work at a temp to hire job at TD Ameritrade 6 black woman we exceeded the requirements to get the job and did not get hired every white person did rather if they passed the test or not and one girl said maybe I shouldn't have worn braids I just died inside ...... died no black person should ever think their hair will determine their job
I’m so sorry that you had to experience that! It’s so unfortunate and infuriating how heavily texturism and colorism play such a huge role within our community. I’m praying that you know that you’re beautiful and your perspectives & experiences are appreciated! Please don’t allow this experience dim your light! ❤️❤️
hey im a hispanic girl and i will never be able to know how hurtful this was for you, but my heart hurts with yours. i really don't understand cause your hair is voluminous and beautiful and i love the little seashells (sorry if there's a name and i don't know)
I think it's ironic how the "natural hair community" used to go on and on about trying to recruit people to join the cause and finally express themselves and not be embarrassed or feel included; and then they pull this shit all the time. They're just as bad as who they complain about. The rooted hate is so embarrassing as a black women
Right and honestly, I feel like two things happened: it became length-drive and highjacked by the loose curl girlies if it was really for natural hair then why is our natural hair still getting ridiculed PUBLICLY at that
She was trying to be nice nasty with you pretending “ohh I had no idea that me making this post will cause backlash “ I am glad you stood your ground ❤️ Do let people gaslight you
I just came across this video today, and it’s literally the Willie Lynch syndrome in the natural hair community. Especially when it comes to locs. Nowadays you don’t even know whose locs are real because they combine it with natural locs. It’s crazy. I think your hair is dope af.
I started my loc journey in large part because of YOU. I am so in love with how you gift us with your personality here online. I look forward to the day we can meet in person. Thank you for being a Black person who loves being Black.
I’ve always loved how proud you are of your complexion and hair texture. The drag you experienced is a byproduct of a world that says you shouldn’t be.
thats why I dislike "communities" in general. Art community, gaming community and everything there is. I like to enjoy what I love without comparison and competition mentality thats forced on you by them while you yourself never expected that. It takes the joy out of the things you love to do. I know this has been said waaay too often but do your thing and don't let the insecurities of others negatively affect you. Edit: spelling errors cause I'm too dumb to type on my cell phone 😅
I’m glad I’m not the only one that felt this way about “communities”. They really do suck the joy out of whatever it is everyone is actually coming together for with all the do’s and don’ts, rights and wrongs, and ridiculous bickering. Just pure negativity
I’m so sorry this happened to you. Just such an ignorant world. It really hurts to watch the natural hair community slowly kicking out black people. This is why I never made my loc page it’s so toxic out here. I love you, you are powerful, smart, beautiful. They just don’t know how to handle real black excellence.
I understand what your saying but we should do the opposite and do make our loc channels cuz we are STILL here and flourishing! Make that channel girl! I’m following lol
@@chalseywilder937 I don’t think people are saying they didn’t do it before the texture system was created but it’s another system to categorize Black people as “good” and “bad” like the paper bag test
I was in my teen years when I first got exposed to the natural hair community. To this day, I still struggle with loving and appreciating my 4c hair. It's so toxic there
Finally someone who understands that influencers and social media have no clue what REAL 4C hair is! If you search 4C hair on TH-cam it’s a messs. Nearly no content with real 4C hair.
I disagree. There is actually a TON of content for 4c hair. But I think what she mentioned in the video (rasheeda vs lupita) comes into play. People would more quickly believe that they have dehydrated 4a hair than actual 4c hair and will seek out that content. So when you search the SEO pushes 3c/4a to the top of the algorithm, propelling their channels while 4c hair channels have to fight deliberate obscurity and find a way to market their content on platforms that have become increasingly hostile to content creator spam (and for a good reason, but it still serves to silence and drown out their voices).People are keen to imagine themselves in a form of black that is less inherently black. They don't want to follow routines for "nappy" hair because their hair "isn't that nappy." (And i get it to some degree, sparse 4c hair with a heavy clumping tendency can be mistaken for 4a hair when you are just starting out. But that's not the point) But as a result, people will decide to tell 4a bloggers that their hair is 4c and they'll start making 4c routines, empowered by an audience projecting their anti blackness. Or people will just choose to flock to 3c/4a for the same reasons. It's hard for a 4c channel to show on a search, therefore harder to gain subscribers, therefore harder to grow and make an impact
@@Limitedonathios I hadn't taken the youtube algorithm into account. You make a v valid point. It is frustrating though when I search for 4c videos and find mostly other hair types. My perspective is also informed by conversations with friends - we are black africans living in South Africa and we find that everything touted as 4c hair by hegemonic media ie Western/American, is so far from our own 'nappy' and 'kinky' hair. We joke sometimes that there's gotta be something in the water over there because in general, Americans don't seem to have an understanding of what real 4c hair is.
wow idc what anyone says anti- blackness is global and the fact that people can just think it’s okay to bully someone shows how miserable and boring there lives are that page needs to be removed so they can think about the harm they cause to you and other freeformers out there smdh😒
The main point here: they mad their hair can’t freeform and look like this. 🤷🏽♀️ not our fault her hair looks luscious and the curls that get thousands of likes look like matted dog hair when they freeform.
This is sooooo sad😢 why can’t people just stop drinking painkillers for other peoples pain😫! That’s why I honestly don’t follow hair community pages ! I just do my thing! Sorry sis you went tru this! Lots of love my Nigerian sister
I remember in 2010 first hearing about the 'natural hair community' , reading blogs about going natural and even at one point thinking about freeforming or growing 'organic' locs. The movement was so new fresh and liberating. Now it's literally watered down trash - just a bunch of product pushing.
@@fashionwithoutlabels yeah I think the natural hair movement has had a few revitalizations throughout the decades. I remember Nappturality as well but dark skin 4c hair content creators was still far in between compared to other light skin content creators.
@@fashionwithoutlabels I went natural in college in the 90s and that was so “out there”! Even being in the black poetry scene, I was ridiculed. All these fist-in-the-air, back to Africa motherf*ckers were looking at me sideways because I decided to stop straightening my hair! 😕
Im like white girl from russia, but that video really made me sad. such horible people, like i dont understand why someone would be saying such hurfull things, espesialy if they are "naturalhair" comunity. Its rasist towards your own people wtf
I'm just a white lady who doesn't know anything about black hair, but you're really lovely and your hair looks great and F anyone who tells you different!
Any black woman telling you to get a "weave" clearly has some deep rooted hate towards themselves and their natural hair.
Girl. Keep doing your thing.
please understand even with my soft hair I would have hair hats coming at me talking about some I will look so much better with a 55-in weave now mind you these same bald headed no edges fat chicks when they take they wigs off or they weaves down for new install and come to work with a scarf on have traction alopecia absolutely no hair at all but you want to tell me what to do 😶whatever it is you doing🤔 I'm not going to do how about that...
@@wildwaymonee8o8 it be the loudest ones gurl😂😂 for me the only reason I wear weaves is bc I shaved my hair off recently so it can regrow bc it was severely damaged from relaxers when I was younger so I stopped wearing it out as much bc it was uneven and dry and my scalp was scabbed and bleeding so I just stuck to protective styles but since my hair is too short for braids and faux locks and all that I now just stick to wigs
👏👏👏👏
Say it Again for the people.in the back..I don't think they heard you!!
You telling the truth!!
@@Im_Zion .. I understand what you can do is try black castor oil I know it sounds old school but it works... the black castor oil will clear up the scabs in your scalp and stop the bleeding... next thing you know you got all this new growth
They like black hair until your hair is too natural for them. Your hair is beautiful and so are you. Keep spreading awareness.
thank you love!
You just said a mouthful 👍👍👍👍👍
I totally agree! Keep your head up Empress! You and your hair is beautiful!
That's the truth, ruth. A free fro is my favorite
Say it out loud!! You are right
How can hair be too nappy to be natural? Wtf? Did we just get gentrified out of being ‘black’?
LOL YES! they kicked me out oo
Lol smh
Yup! Smh lol
That is too funny!! You ain't kicking me outta my neighborhood. I was here first!
@@greenbyrd3665 lol we got gentrified
"it started on twitter" is something that doesn't surprise me anymore
Twitter is the new tumblr
Twitter? You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
Venti what are you doing here? 👁️👁️
Yup, same here. Twitter has become a toxic dump for people who are in desperate need of therapy and take their issues out on strangers.
@@prodmxllothis video is here for anyone to see🤷♂️
Natural hair community be toxic for no reason. Her hair isn’t “curly” enough. Or too “nappy”. But if she got a relaxer??? They would’ve been up in flames!
Periodt !
It's because most people who go natural online do it for views and white acceptance for themselves, not to elevate the community
@@Xara_K1 that is so messed up.
That's not the natural hair community that's a specific hair type community.
That's why so many 4c natural "influencers" are leaving the platform. If it isn't bouncy, curly, and easily manageable the natural hair community doesn't want it.
How do you claim to love “Blackness“ without embracing ALL of it. . All shades, all textures, all cultures... We have a long way to go smh
Agreed especially all shades because I feel like we are being separated all over again with the “ugh light skinned” or “ugh dark skinned” mess.
@@Nikki-ks6wi That's true.
Because as a community, we get separated and separate ourselves by class, color, gender, sexuality, and beauty standards. And not realizing we have fallen into the division trap and doing WS’s work for them.
exactly like 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@Nikki-ks6wi exactly and it’s so annoying and ignorant !
The internet is so hypocritical, if your a black woman and get relaxer you apparently "don’t love your self", and if you rock your natural hair you look "unkept and dirty" wtf???? They tell people to be confident and rock their natural selves but then drag them when it doesn’t fit there beauty standards
That's exactly what has been bothering me so much. Like goddamn just let people have their hair however they like and do with it what they want! It's their hair and not yours! I don't understand how that's so hard to understand.
the problem however is that this isn't even the issue.. if you are curvy you are too fat.. if you are skinny you are immideately thrown things like oh you must be anorexic! eat some more! like no what ?
Racism is alive and well
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 and especially internalized racism
@@lavendermilk3010 That too.
I tend to forget that because I am so white I glow in the sun...
Mayowa straight up made me go from covering my hair with wigs and turbants because I didn't feel comfortable showing my hair in zoom meetings to wearing my natural hair out without givinga f*ck.
She is a gem that need s to be protected❤
I concur
Are you still wearing your natural hear?
I just loc’d my hair in February and just found her yesterday and she is a HUGE encouragement for me in my “awkward” phase. I love my hair and my hair LOVES being loc’d!
Amazing!!
Their page is gone. Thank goodness. Natural hair shouldn’t be controversial. All these people run around talking about how “God is good all the time” and “God is greater” and “God don’t make mistakes” -- except for natural hair?! WTF. To hell with all of them.
The worse is when they use word God in vain.
God didn’t make any mistakes, all natural is beautiful.
Did they change their name? Cuz I want that page deleted
@@rotisserie8444 probably. i searched for it too but no success
They just changed the page name
“She doesn’t have 4c hair, she has locs” literally took me out 😫😫😫😫 babe fuck them. You’re beautiful inside and out from head to toe. You’re genetics are blesseddddd!!! Let the lost stay stranded.
You are so smart
Can someone KINDLY educate me? Because I thought that her hair is in free form locs. It is beautiful but it is in locs no? And locs texture isn’t the same as loose hair.
@@caroll9698 Her natural texture is 4c but it is in locs. If she takes out the locs it's still going to be 4c. If I take out my locs, I'm still going to be 4a. Your hair is locked within itself but its doesn't change your texture like a relaxer does.
Lol that was so stupid it was kinda funny.
@@LucienneintheDreaming exactly everyone has a texture, locs or not
One of my subbies just shared this video with me, the fact that you have to endure such ignorance is unacceptable. 4C hair is THE most versatile hair pattern, and I’m so over people’s close-minded narratives they try to push on everyone, shouting their prejudices from the rooftops like it’s acceptable.
Your hair, skin, features are all gorgeous. Thank you for sharing your experience 💚
Omgg, i love y’all for this!
Hey teal
Thank you for having her back!
Am sorry to say this but some stylist are the worst. On Instagram there are many saying that 4c hair that can't wash and go is unhydrated hair. When in actuality the coils are so small it's hard to see. I don't know why some of these stylist are obsessed with making these coils as visible as possible.
Power to GlamFam for stepping up on this! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This is why I don't follow natural hair pages. They claim to embrace all hair textures but the majority of hair posted doesn't reflect what I see on a daily, and their communities are so toxic.
THIS!
They only show light skin and/or mixed women hair.
Smh.
There used to be a sister with a 4c hair care channel called
Nappy Fu TV.
There is no point in watching natural hair channel if the natural hair isn’t similar to one’s own. I wouldn’t watch a natural ringlet curl hair channel bec my hair isn’t like that. I’m not saying you did. But Nappy Fu TV 📺 was a 4c natural hair channel.
@@anae.769Some LSBW have 4c or other type 4 hair, but I get it if ppl don’t want LSBW with 4c natural hair channel.
Thats How I feel with "melanin" pages and they only post tanned mutts.
A whole lot of folk like natural hair ONLY if it’s soft and curly....NO LIE!!!
And long too
It's true, mixed hair!
@@kearab4238 I agree but theirs no such thing as mixed hair you mean looser texture hair
agreed . I'm one of those soft hair people and have had people literally walk up to me and say.. I wish I could go natural like you . but you know.. you got good hair . so it's easier for you🤯😭..
I'm like you know what your wrong... u gotta learn to love YOURSELF first Sis.. I don't subscribe to the nonsense from white washed blacks😶🤨
@@wildwaymonee8o8 literally. I’m a 3c 3b mix and I never fail to get comments FROM OTHER BLACK PEOPLE saying “oh if I had your texture I would have went natural too” or “you lucky you got good hair” “your hair is easy to do cause it’s pretty” “you got mixed girl hair”. Mind you I’m brownskin and not mixed or even mixed looking. And don’t even get me started on the “are you mixed” comments. Seriously, we need to do better.
The fact that the page says BLM too... like you can’t only care about the light skin black lives or the black lives with laid edges and clean cut locs... 🤦🏽♀️
Thats why I don’t follow those pages thats targeted for black people because they do shit like that. Especially pages with a big following
Oh, no, sweetie, didn't they tell you that "BLM" stands for "Biracial Live Matter"? 🤷🏽♂️
@@momo-cchi5978 exactly!!
@@Kiyah180 this is so true 🤧
Thisssss!
“If your entire page is a ‘natural hair’ page and you put a picture of me with my natural hair and get so much hate, that literally proves that your page isn’t for people who have natural hair. Your page is for people who have acceptable black hair texture that society wants to see.” #micdropmoment 💯
Abso- freaking- lutely
“That’s not 4c hair that’s 4z hair” i literally put my hand over my mouth and cried. I am so sorry. You are beautiful and your hair is beautiful.
folks need to stop the bull crap of theses mess of label quite the mess. DO YOUR HAIR AND LET YOUR HAIR DO YOU SCREW THE LABELS
Well she said she’s African so it’s mean to be a little different from us who aren’t primarily African descent. That hair grade shit is some white washed trash anyway I still ain’t found my hair style lmao😂
That’s actually funny asf😂
@@Pinkcactuz Ha ha ha sOoo fUnNy
😭😭
The black community understands representation until it's about black women's concerns and issues. Then you're fair game.
Facts
This! OMG This!
Precisely
the misogynoir we have to face as black women is actually exhausting wow.
Thank you for voicing my inner thoughts.... ❤️ U.
@@honestfriend767 misogynoir is slightly different from mysogyny, it's the mysigyny tiwards black women where race and gender both play roles in bias
@@honestfriend767 noir is black in french thus the term misogynoir - misogyny towards black women :)
2024…. Just wait sis
i hâte those sneak dissing pages the shade borough for example.. they say “thoughts? 👀” knowing damn well what they’re doing. i don’t understand how grown ass people can be so bitter for what?
Probably jealous
just say theshaderoom😭 a lot of those black social media (pop culture) pages are so toxic it’s disgusting. and the people who follow those pages are so ignorant. i can’t wait for black people to stop supporting those pages.
WHEW you said it. We need to get on The Shade Room next
I haaaaaate that too
I had to unsubscribe from several channels including a couple of black women who are content creators because they want personal thoughts and opinions but when you tell them why or why you don’t agree but are still being nice about it some of them come at there supporters very angry and mean but it’s not okay because we as viewers want to support them but they judge there viewers for what they can and can’t say or do because we aren’t them. It’s upsetting honestly.
hearing how they called you ugly for "unkept" hair on an UPLIFTING NATURAL HAIR page actually made me lose braincells how can people be so ignorant and toxic. I am so sorry you had to go through that, you do NOT deserve that. You are so beautiful, ALL of you!!
who was it
The self-hate in the black community is so real!!!!
Fo' rilz!
It's beyond embarrassing.
Yes yes yes. So very true.
And they'll use every excuse in the book to try to deny their self-hatred, but they're either gaslighting or willfully ignorant.
@@DH-uw3us factsssss omg. You see it all the time on TH-cam too it’s beyond annoying. They will fight tooth and nail and argue in ignorance.
They don’t love themselves. Trust
It’s crazy that people can’t just let black girls like you be pretty, smart, and unbothered. Like leave black women alone.
You will be surprised to see how much hate comes from black women themselves
@@marysophy3665 but some hate DOESN’T come from black women and some are being innocent but people as always like negativity 🙄grow up
@@shelleyferguson5737 easiest response ever!!
“Some hate DOESN’T come from black women”
So? It shouldn’t be pointed out? Plus, You literally said what I said but in other words...
“If there is no enemy within, the enemy outside can do us no harm”
@@shelleyferguson5737 lol what??? You make no sense 😩😂😂
Yes literally, like I’ll post a tik tok doing a my lil dance and so many unsolicited opinions come at me. “Take your wig off” “wash your makeup off” “ur so fat” like damn can I have fun on here like everyone else? Am I perfect? No but I should still be able to have confidence without being torn down
“She doesn’t have 4c hair; she has locs” 😭😭😭 THE FACE you made after telling us about that comment. I’m DEAD over here. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE LOCS??? ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️
This. I'm 4c with Sisterlocks and literally I made the same face she did at the exact same time.
That sent me 💀😂
For someone to say that nonsense just confirms they don't have "3a" let alone "4c" hair
As a white Irish woman this makes me incredibly sad that you are being shaded for being the exact natural hair type that they exist to promote. Keep being your authentic beautiful self with your integrity and dont take no shit from any bitch. Much love xx
no when i say she literally said it AS i was reading this comment 😂
I hate that cyber bullying is normalized, accepted, and expected
I’m really happy that beautiful people like you exist. You are the type of person that I can listen to for hours. I’m so sorry that you have to endure such disgusting humans!!
You fine af
Just came across this channel,and yes she's very beautiful! This *hair typing* system is just another way to keep black folk fighting and apart! It really pisses me off🤦🏽♀️
At any rate, no matter the *complexion* or *hair texture* of the *BW* we're *ALL BEAUTIFUL and UNIQUE!* ✊🏽🙂
*ALL*
I just checked the IG page, they removed all their pics, seems she can't stand the heat, pages like that are a disgrace!
we all as conscious black women need to fight this for the freedom of our people. dont just say im glad you exist so that you have to go through this. Lets stop with the eurocentric standards
Reason why i unfollowed all these so called natural hair pages that only post a specific hair type with a specific shade. Sorry you went through that the hate for DSBW is real but you know what we're still Winning.
period!! and I agree with you!
Me too, Queen. I was sick and tired of them and the b.s.
I deleted Instagram because People thought that having problematic opinions was cute and also telling people what they are and aren’t.
@@merissacooper6539 omg I admire when people do this. So if you don’t mind me asking, could you share a little of your experience of what it’s like living without the app? (Ik how bad this sounds, but I’m super curious lol)
@@mayowasworld don’t feel bad because they got together to take a picture to represent all of the naturals and they were all wearing wigs in the photo smh
I’m so sorry you have to endure this, you and your hair are beautiful. Sending all the love 💙
Never expected to see an Ellbat comment here but I’m happy I did!
My appreciation for Ellbat 📈
💗
Aint it
Why does her hair look like this
I am 57 years old and this is not new. I am so sick of this ignorant bullshit black folks do to other black folks. I am sorry this happened to you but your video shows your strength and intelligence and your will to bounce back and defend yourself and all of us who have happy hair. Your voice is a power keg! Important.
Facts I’m in my mid 30s and ppl have been putting mixed folks on a pedestal ever since I can remember it seems it’s getting worst idk if it’s because of social media …..?
Okay I don’t know if this is a typo or not but from now on I’m calling our hair « happy » hair.
@@MsCruzan I love that 💕
I'm NIGERIAN too!! Hey my nigerian sista LOL. I LOVE YOUR HAIR
same!
I got super excited to see the channel name because I was like, "Mayowa! Nigerian!!" XD
same!!
@RODDY RICH WIFE no way! I didn't know that! What a cool thing to share, even though we're at opposite ends of Africa :D
@Temitayo Giwa She should have just said African.
I can’t stand the natural hair community now. It was started by mostly 4c woman years before Twitter and Instagram. Mainstream took over and RUINED it 😡. Sorry this happened to you
yes! its sickening the way they've just centered those who benefit from texturism and colorism
Girl...this "community" was before 4c hair and before instagram and twitter. You're really new to the game. Lol. I went natural before then and there was a community before then and we were on forums and fotki and most people did not claim to even have 4c hair.
Also 4c girls are like a cult, 4b hair girls like me don’t even fit in.
Edit: I commented before I watch the video, I’m sorry that happened to you before are disgusting.
@@tfashion19 I agree it is very cult like. Many don't even acknowledge the other two type 4 hair types, so every type 4 is now 4c.
@@427skies yup I remembered fotki and forums like nappturality 🙂 too
I was mistaken for being homeless when I had my locs... stay strong... You're beautiful Sis!!
No way 😂😂😂😂😂 I shouldn't be laughing but damn this word is cruel
@@sweetchocolate7113 Ain't it though!! And people are lost in it!!!
@@SheaBaby81 Fr I'm so sorry they would assume such things, like these things could be mentally damageing
@@sweetchocolate7113 I agree!! Good thing I knew/know who I am... My locs were not a hairstyle... they were my crown!! And thank you Love!! I appreciate you!!
@@SheaBaby81 Yes sister slay that crown you are loved and appreciated ❤️❤️❤️
It's honestly disgusting how quick people are to attack women for being their authentic selves. Colourism is incredibly destructive.
It's beautiful to see you call out and educate people on social issues.
They dragged you because you read them for filth. By dragging you, they exposed their own internal hatred for real 4c hair, and projected that on to you. I have 4c hair like yours and one Natural hair influencer in these social media streets with the "wavy 4c hair" told me that my hair isn't 4c, it is dry after I enquired about her "wavy 4c hair." I was appalled because if it was, it would break and lack lustre, but it doesn't. She went on how 4c hair is different, there is porosity and yada yada. The porosity has nothing to do with the texture which is what the argument was about. You did a slide where you called light skinned women who write in colorism. I feel that these 3c -4a influencers are doing the same thing when it comes to natural hair. A South African hair influencer who has been in the natural hair game for a long time also called them out on how they still cater to the Eurocentric gaze because they hardly sell the kink and coil. I mean, it's amazing that you can silk press your natural hair and create waves or any other manipulation, but the truth is in the long-term, it does damage your hair and thins it. She posted herself wearing an elegant gown with her kinky afro and wrote on why she believes kink can be elegant and how natural hair influencers lie about the time and methods it took to grow their hair. She was right because how can you grow 4c hair to back length in 18 months without protective styles and your hair was not even reaching your neck? This is why I started freeforming. With freeforming, there are no rushed expectations, there is no manual for rapid hair growth, but you know your hair is growing. I stopped chasing the huge afro look because watching these people made me feel more insecure than I thought and self-conscious. You are so beautiful and smart and I'm happy with your content. Keep calling out for their filth. They are so stuuuuuupiiiiid!!
YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL 💚💚
I'm tired of people saying that if your hair looks really kinky that it's dry or we're not taking care of it. As annoying as shrinkage is, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not ugly. We are too obsessed with defining and curls and trying to make it look different and too observant with length.
@gensai93 Right?! It is so annoying how these NHIs try to convince us that our hair is dry or it is not being taken care of. They are so obsessed with length than they are with growth. Real growth. These length checks annoy me. Like who, with 4c hair, does length checks? Eeuw.
@@gensai93 Fr once I argued with a girl on the internet because she was insulting another girl just because her edges were bad... Like, really ? It's crazy.
Agree 100%. Especially about people lying about growing hair so fast to certain lengths. I know we all grow hair at different rates but sometimes you can tell it's all made up.
I’ve noticed this too and it’s usually always other black people.
Exactly
Fr. We should be uplifting each other and not tearing each other down
Exactly I see black women praising loose curls and “type 4a and 4b” and it’s sad when they wanna call kinkier hair knappy and ugly because it doesn’t “curl” like you guys want to yell all black hair beautiful then it’s black on black crime once you behind closed doors
I've also noticed how xenophobic black Americans are towards other black people of another ethnicity, mostly if your from Africa and have very strong Afrocentric features. We're all black and we all go through the same struggle shaming other black people just because they arent american is only going to create more division. We already have division in our community with the light skin vs brown skin vs dark skin, so lets solve problems instead of creating more. fixing what's going on in our community will solve 75 of our problems
@Sis I- u right 😭 but they letting some type 4 hair get away as long as it’s all curly and moisturized
It sucks because 4c hair is rarely included in the “celebration” of natural hair. I always feel good when people compliment my hair because that’s a rarity. They say “nappy” like it’s a bad thing. I love my hair tho. I’m so sorry you had to go through this. Then again, f*ck them.
I usually only get bad comments from people I my own race
@@dawnrosewood7060 unfortunately, that’s true.
My mom is constantly calling my hair nappy and trying to convince me to perm my hair like girl-🧍♀️
@@jjxrden definitely not. We don’t need the chemicals in our hair
@@jessmcmxci5769 Right, and after getting my hair permed at like 9 and having damaged hair still to this day, I’ll pass lol
Not sure why your video was suggested to me being I'm an old bald white guy, but I think your hair is beautiful. Don't let them idiots upset you.
@cigar, I think that being trolled to trigger. Crazy right. It happens, however it opens my eyes to issues I never thought about...You sound like cool person. Be safe out here!🥰
Loloololol!!!
That you, Sir.
The self hatred and anti-Blackness within our own race is disgusting and toxic. I'm sorry you went through that. ❤
You ain't tell a lie 🤥
It really is 😢
Fr
Very. Smh
So sorry you went through that I wanna throw hands to everyone who fixed their fingers to talk about your natural hair, but they’re are just ignorant and self hating mofo’s. You are BEAUTIFUL! ❤️
"that shit made me cry" :( I hate that so much. The cyberbullying that social media has made possible is awful.
People don’t realize that when they’re teasing someone on social media they’re teasing an actual PERSON. The disconnect between social media and real life is disgusting and dangerous.
@@Jasminesim18 Thank you! I agree totally!
I feel the same way. Truly sad
I always say, "the rot is from within". Black folks need a lot of de programming. You are beautiful.
Remove the rotted from our community. New year new challenges. All negative nags are ho longer allowed to sit with is. Only positive people of positive light is allowed. #Grandstand
Black people have been conditioned for CENTURIES to think that our skin, our hair, our bodies, our features and our overall existence is disgusting and ape-like. We will be met with resistance for embracing ourselves, but we, YOU can’t stop posting & uplifting black people & other people of color. You make people feel comfortable with themselves and not shameful for the way we were born. Thank you & stay up Mayowa☺️👏🏽👸🏽
When you call every tan person under the sun 'black' and every hair texture that's not bone straight 'natural', you get ppl who forget what the average West African's hair looks like
EXACTLY. THIS IS A WORD!!!!
WHEW THIS NEEDS TO BE ON A T SHIRT OR SOMETHING.
Anyone of any race can have natural hair BUT anyone can't have type 4 hair
@@Acentra277 It is literally the most unique texture in the world, and can only belong to one group. It's sounding like jealousy to me
I think this is a really shitty take on what Blackness is and what the natural hair movement is.
Blackness as a racial concept is ruling in the history of white supremacy and so it is tethered to the existence of descendants of slaves throughout the Western Hemisphere, many of whom are not purely racially "100% African". Throughout my life I have had multiple interactions with people from the Caribbean and Africa who have told me that they are "not black" and that they are *insert name of their home country* so even they themselves are tethering Blackness to white supremacy and its history in the United States of America. only more recently have you started to see mass numbers of Black people from the Caribbean and Africa self-identifying as "Black".
I'm only 29 and I remember growing up around African kids who simply did not identify as being "Black". That alone dismantles your argument. The same with natural hair. This was a movement started by Black American women, many of whom do not have 4C texture hair. We can definitely talk about texturism and how all hair textures need to be embraced but what's not going to happen is you are not going to create a new standard of beauty that is rooted in elitist beliefs about racial purity... We've already dealt with that with white supremacy
Your hair is very normal in South Africa, it’s clearly 4C and I have the same hair texture. You’re beautiful and so is your hair I’m so excited I found your channel 🥰
Yebo
Hahaha I was dragged by south Africans for saying 4c hair is not wavy
@@toastybutterscones1932 shame sorry
She literally has REAL 4C HAIR! I feel like peeps who get it twisted need to come to South Africa and see our hair. REAL 4C HAIR!
People who put"thoughts?" On Their post literally intends to start drama ALWAYS
Absolutely they just don’t want to say it and get dragged so they let their followers do all the dragging
Exactly!
ALWAYS!!
Exactly
Idc "thoughts" is a micro aggression. Ppl that do that know exactly wtf they're doing.
This why I don’t even bother with the community anymore. People with loose curls get to claim 4c but they have a problem with the real thing. You and your hair are beautiful.
Exactly!!!!!!
I checked out their page and you are right. Everyone is light skinned with mostly loose curls. It is so so sad. Do you girl. Chocolate forever.
When y'all find out there are not enough letters to code our hair, we be free of this BS
Wym lol? 4C is 4C?
True. We also need to be free of the color BS too. I wish there were a way to reprogram us from all of the negativity that was instilled in us from hundreds of years ago.
@Nick The Great I totally agree what ur saying but I think that @aliveandconnected is tryna say is that the existance of the chart in the first place is creating this divide between the hair community.
Now that’s funny because when I used to wear an Afro back in the 70,s we never identified our hair by numbers and alphabets. So when stopped putting the creamy crack in my hair; I started watching you tube videos and discovered this bullshit. Now I want to research the man she said who came up with this dumb shit: abc, 123. Like Mother Earth said now all Aboriginal/Original Indigenous American black women hair can only be natural via letters & numbers. 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤔
aliveandconnected this was an issue before long before Andre Walker's hair coding system came along. The problem is straight up anti-blackness - both from within and outside of the Black community.
i cannot IMAGINE waking up to my own selfie being posted online with the caption "thoughts?" in any context ahhhh that is nightmare fuel. there is no reason they shouldve ever done that.
"If your page is a natural hair page & you put a picture of me, with my hair & it gets so much hate -that literally proves that your page isn't for people who have natural hair. Your page is for people who have acceptable black hair textures that society wants to see." This is SO real, thank you for calling it out. The natural hair 'community' is so damn toxic. You know this already but you are beautiful, your hair is beautiful, KEEP ON SHINING. ❤️
I literally read this comment the moment she said this in the video
Sheer ignorance. Crabs in a barrel. We are our own worst enemy sometimes. You’re beautiful.
💯
People on twitter are MISERABLE. Please don't feed into that because theres no right answer for shxt on that bird ass app... Don't cry, you're so beautiful, don't let ANY of that get to you.
Reason why I don't use Twitter, although I have it. I have never liked how dramatic and nasty people get there.
Bird ass app🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
Chyle the melanin is too intimidating to them. You're beautiful be proud of who you are. People will not always accept you or your style, but it's your own. Peace and light
The “natural hair community” has become a platform people use to show black people how to make their hair more palatable for white society.
Hmm 🤔 never thought of it that way.. Excellent point
BOOM!! Thank you!! I felt this way when the whole “wet look” wash and go for 4C was a trend. I was like why would I think my 4C hair will do this? And why will I use a million and one products to try to make my hair look like it’s 2b🙄🙄😐😑
YES!!!!
Say that!! Such negative energy surrounding this movement 💛💯
Facts.
She says she didn't approve of the negative comments under your photo but she "liked" one saying you looked unkempt and dirty and THAT PINNED IT. That's disgusting
Did she pin more than one? The one shown said nothing about being dirty or unkempt. Simply that she should moisturize her hair.
@@briggyb either way it’s still kinda hypocritical even if that one comment didn’t spell it out for us (hundreds below it did). the pinned comment was basically calling it unkempt. “4c hair only looks like that if it’s dry and not moisturized” and then went on to describe what *kept* 4c hair looks and feels like. “Tight curls...Soft, bouncy, and healthy.” With very little help from context clues it’s obvious she’s saying that that because her locs are dry and unmoisturized she’s the opposite of the well groomed and well maintained (or kept) 4c hair that her friend has. Saying she *technically* didn’t officially type the word in this one specific comment is splitting hairs and would be disingenuous in my opinion. The page’s intent was still shady af. Saying u don’t approve of the negative comments and then pinning a sneak dissing ass comment with the infamous “thoughts” question is shady afff.
@@leilanidru7506 fair enough. I understand why people are upset. And maybe that was what she meant. In fact, it probably was what she was saying. But we're still making assumptions.
I don't know if it's ignorance, being rude, or she just said something that was misinterpreted. I am at a point in my life where I don't have time to make assumptions. It's not worth my energy. Even if I am right 9 out of 10 times, occasionally I read into something and I am wrong. Getting angry doesn't do me any good. There will always be people who are awful. I try to ignore them. There are a lot more wonderful, beautiful souls than there are bad.
I am just choosing to see the good. And if it isn't pleasing to God's ears, I try not to say it. No judgement for those of you telling her she was wrong. Even if it was misinterpreted, we all need to try harder.
I just have better things to do than call some ignorant person out on the internet, you know? Thanks for the reply though. I genuinely appreciate it. Have a great night. 😊
@@briggyb honestly imo it’s not an assumption. She describes it as unkempt in more ways than one, she just didn’t physically write out the word. But I get what u mean ig. Have a good night too💜
@@briggyb her hair is matted or dreads tho?? I ain't even know you could moisturise that type of hair
If u were a white or light skin woman with locs and ur photo was posted on that page, the comments wouldn’t be as close to what u received.
period
Yup
Right
I hate that it’s true. :(
A white woman would have been dragged for cultural appropriaton
I’m obsessed with your authenticity! Don’t ever change , it’s inspiring
they always say black women hate themselvew for wearing weave but then goes "yOU nEeD a wEaVE" when they cant accept real "natural" hair. Im sorry you went thru this sis, we deserve better.
So happy your people came to your defense. Your hair is beautiful and so are you❤️
aww thank you love!
periodt❤️
You’re beautiful, your hair is beautiful and “FUCK THEM KIDS” 💯
And 10:37 , you explained that SO well, it’s crazy how people manipulate then try to play victim smh.
Lmao! Agree w/your comment but I had to laugh because I use that Lil Yachty line from time to time.
They love their palatable 'natural' hair but the moment it gets too real they show their true colors you are literally so beautiful your energy is so warming, I recently began my loc journey and its truely teaching me to let go off colorist/texturist beauty standards, (I have 4b/4c hair)
The way they asked for “thoughts” like it’s up for debate what kind of hair you have.... like it’s other people’s job to validate YOUR hair 😒 they fully set you up sis call them out
"She doesn't have 4C hair, she has locs"
😂🤣😭🤣😂🤣
Stupid just entered the room
😂😂 "stupid has entered the room" I'm using that 👏🏿
@@dontatmeevr it's something I used to say out loud everytime I entered Math class 😂
Smh people would ask me if I missed being natural...I also have locs & have to tell them I've had natural hair since middle school🙄
@@ariellesesne5162 I wanted locs growing up but my Grandma wouldn't allow it 😂
She's a strict Jamaican Christian and she said she don't want no rasta in her house 😭😭😭
@@natsohigh5552 Jeez lol I've had them 3 time now & I'm only 24. My father combed mine out when I was in 6th grade. I was so mad smh. He made my brother get a haircut in the opposite room of where he was combing mine out
“i exist in the world as a real person” it’s sad that you have to say that, but also hella real and an important thing for all of your viewers to recognize
That's absolutely disgusting. Your hair is gorgeous, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Also: I love the shells, that is such a cute look, it gives me sea godess vibes :)
they're cowries
Her client's 4C hair is BLONDE and probably STRAIGHTENED REGULARLY, which loosens the curl pattern. That stylist conveniently neglected to consider that though.
"Loosens the curl pattern"
Say it with me: heat.damage.
that hair looked dead af when you look close enough..
I’m not black, but I feel like I have a regular level of common sense to agree and think for myself exactly what is being said in this video.
So call me out if I’m wrong, but why the heck would a stylist especially say you have “bad hair” if it can’t turn into this white hairstyle. If you don’t have naturally straight hair, you don’t need to HAVE straight to be considered “good”. It just sounds so dumb and forcing the same white standards without directly saying those words.
The black community is so exhausting and embarrassing sometimes. You don’t see other communities putting down there women and hair.
Right, even if their hair is thin and ugly
@@peaceispossible80 I agree. I feel like this is an important comment--it's not that these people inherently want to put us down, the internal and external hate/misunderstanding/fear, etc. has just been cultivated over generations. Most other communities don't have the same level of oppression or struggle that ours does. I'm not giving the ones who are misguided an excuse--I'm just saying I know why the community is like this.
@@peaceispossible80 Jeez. I can't imagine what that's like. It's depressing that anyone would feel like that's okay--regardless of their age. One has to wonder what they have gone through to be that way, too, you know? I have curlier kinky hair (I guess some 4a and mostly 4b if I were to type it) that gets the ever so insulting "I love your hair--what are you mixed with?". And, like you said--I don't get mad. It's just disappointing. Sometimes I make an effort to educate and enlighten, but I'm truly just tired.~_~
It's like the community has the essence of a dog chasing its tail.
But yeah, you said it--the history definitely explains without excusing. I think a lot of people often get those two concepts mixed up.
@@peaceispossible80 they were intrigued
We have internalized antiblackness
How you are treated by other Black people is unacceptable and harmful. The self hate and anti-dark skin within the global Black community needs healing. Your 4c locs * IS* Black natural hair. 🖤
thank you love! this is a sweet message to remember
Stay strong warriors, their ignorance shall not break us but make our bond stronger. Were proud of you and surely ashamed of them.
So very true, all of this!
And Mayowa is such a sweet soul. She didn’t deserve this.
really tired of people acting like black women only come in the form of mixed with big coils. Its women like you that truly empower us black women.
The other day another black woman called me “sis” and it actually made me cry because I’ve been sooo shunned for not being the “right kind” of black girl , that to be accepted by someone was so shocking and meaningful to me .
Idk, I just randomly wanted to share that to say - Please be kind to each other 💕
Wow! Can I ask about your experience with that?
Please share your experience if your comfortable. It might help someone who’s going through the same thing.
Same. Being isolated for "talking white" always made me feel like I didn't fit anywhere. I was too white for my black brothers and sisters and too black for white people so whenever I get called sis by anyone outside of family it makes me feel so included. The first time someone called me sis I cried.
I understand that completely.
@@princessk2822 my experience is basically parallel to yours , coupled with colorism issues (I’m lighter skinned & Biracial). A lot of not “being black enough” to be accepted by other black women who somehow were “black enough” ( whether that be because of skin color or differences in the way we talked , dressed , or identified with mainstream cultures ).
Whenever another black woman is friendly to me , sisterly to me, and wants to include me , it moves me so much . We need to make sure that we’re nurturing each other as black women, not looking for ways to tear each other down 💕
crazy that the community is literally called natural hair but they come at her for having 'unkept' hair. people are praising the 'natural' hair that has treatment in it, but shitting on her actual natural hair.
Exactly, all ploys to sell magic products to make your hair looked MIXED? I'm now a loc'd & loaded reformed product junkie/searcher
I noticed that some of the "natural" girls have a curl softener, relaxer, or blow drying their real hair and trying to act like they woke up like that. smh
The type of people who drag you are the ones who are the most insecure in their own skin. They can't feel good about themselves and so they attack others and try to transfer their own insecurities to others. You're beautiful inside and *OUT* !! God Bless you!
It’s the ‘user not found’ for me. That page knew what they were doing when they thought to post it. Darn shame.
I hella went and looked for it too 🤣🤣🤣
@@lilcakes03 they changed their name
@@ayajade6683 what did they change it to
I guess we will never know
It’s pretty disgusting to see that a page trying to talk about loving “natural” hair, and doing shit like this. Calling you names so fucking childish. You are beautiful and so is your hair.
"She doesn't have 4C hair, she has locs..." 🤣🤣People are insane!
I died!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 WTH!!!
Girlll 🤣🤣🤣😂🙄 that part
Swear I'm in tears 🤣
Don’t you know that once you get locs, locs grow out of your scalp? 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♀️
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Guurrrl that took me out too🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So she born with locs then lmaooooo
I know this post is 2 years old... but I'm commenting because I have the SAME texture as yours... and I am SO PROUD to see how strong and resilient you've been the years after video. Keep going!!
As black women we are not allowed to live in our truth without being criticize. I am so sorry.
This is so true I felt terrible once I work at a temp to hire job at TD Ameritrade 6 black woman we exceeded the requirements to get the job and did not get hired every white person did rather if they passed the test or not and one girl said maybe I shouldn't have worn braids I just died inside ...... died no black person should ever think their hair will determine their job
I’m finally saying eff it after 26 years, everybody is a critic with no credentials
@@zaemariewins1980 I’m in banking and this is an issue :(
Your pic is giving me Taraji lol Very Pretty
This is straight up cyber bullying. I’m so sorry you had to go through that :(
I’m so sorry that you had to experience that! It’s so unfortunate and infuriating how heavily texturism and colorism play such a huge role within our community. I’m praying that you know that you’re beautiful and your perspectives & experiences are appreciated! Please don’t allow this experience dim your light! ❤️❤️
hey im a hispanic girl and i will never be able to know how hurtful this was for you, but my heart hurts with yours. i really don't understand cause your hair is voluminous and beautiful and i love the little seashells (sorry if there's a name and i don't know)
In Ghana (west Africa) the seashells are called cowries. Not sure what they are called in Nigeria.
@@amenyob2661 Same thing,dear. They're called cowries.
I call them Sea shells in California lol
Seashells is fine since there are both cowrie shells and clam (I think) shells as well 😊
My pet peeve is googling 4c hair.... and seeing 3c or looser texture women saying they have 4c 🥴
I think it's ironic how the "natural hair community" used to go on and on about trying to recruit people to join the cause and finally express themselves and not be embarrassed or feel included; and then they pull this shit all the time. They're just as bad as who they complain about. The rooted hate is so embarrassing as a black women
Agreed agreed
Right and honestly, I feel like two things happened: it became length-drive and highjacked by the loose curl girlies if it was really for natural hair then why is our natural hair still getting ridiculed PUBLICLY at that
Internalized white supremacy
She was trying to be nice nasty with you pretending “ohh I had no idea that me making this post will cause backlash “ I am glad you stood your ground ❤️ Do let people gaslight you
I just came across this video today, and it’s literally the Willie Lynch syndrome in the natural hair community. Especially when it comes to locs. Nowadays you don’t even know whose locs are real because they combine it with natural locs. It’s crazy. I think your hair is dope af.
I started my loc journey in large part because of YOU. I am so in love with how you gift us with your personality here online. I look forward to the day we can meet in person. Thank you for being a Black person who loves being Black.
aww thank you!!!!!
I’ve always loved how proud you are of your complexion and hair texture. The drag you experienced is a byproduct of a world that says you shouldn’t be.
The moment the "community" started separating and labeling "hairtypes" such as 4C etc I knew it was done for! I just knew it!
You called the hypocrisy to the bone, Mayowa. Thanks so much for your channel and your self love!!
thats why I dislike "communities" in general. Art community, gaming community and everything there is. I like to enjoy what I love without comparison and competition mentality thats forced on you by them while you yourself never expected that. It takes the joy out of the things you love to do. I know this has been said waaay too often but do your thing and don't let the insecurities of others negatively affect you.
Edit: spelling errors cause I'm too dumb to type on my cell phone 😅
Oh no the art community acting up too? Thanks for the infos.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that felt this way about “communities”. They really do suck the joy out of whatever it is everyone is actually coming together for with all the do’s and don’ts, rights and wrongs, and ridiculous bickering. Just pure negativity
Amen.
It's funny how these spaces where you're meant to be amongst like-minded people who are supposed to accept you, can end up being so toxic...
@@jammydoughnuts exactly i used to want to be a part of the gaming community but seeing how they treat women is very much a no thanks for me lol
I’m so sorry this happened to you. Just such an ignorant world. It really hurts to watch the natural hair community slowly kicking out black people. This is why I never made my loc page it’s so toxic out here. I love you, you are powerful, smart, beautiful. They just don’t know how to handle real black excellence.
I understand what your saying but we should do the opposite and do make our loc channels cuz we are STILL here and flourishing! Make that channel girl! I’m following lol
Women who have left the natural hair "community" have called the hair texture classification a paper bag test. #truth Be happy to be nappy :)
Yessss
Damn never saw it that way!
That isn't true at all. People did this same thing before the texture chart existed. And it'll continue even if we no longer use it.
@@chalseywilder937 I don’t think people are saying they didn’t do it before the texture system was created but it’s another system to categorize Black people as “good” and “bad” like the paper bag test
THISSSS!!!!
I was in my teen years when I first got exposed to the natural hair community. To this day, I still struggle with loving and appreciating my 4c hair. It's so toxic there
As far as I'm concerned, you could be a model. You've got the look to be on the runway.
Honestly, I'll be using her as an art reference. I love the seashells dangling from her hair so i will definitely play around with that!
they are
She is breathtakingly beautiful.
She said in another video that she has modeled. I thought the same when I saw her. She is very beautiful
RIGHTTT people only say ugly things because they are jealous or plain hateful and heartless
Finally someone who understands that influencers and social media have no clue what REAL 4C hair is! If you search 4C hair on TH-cam it’s a messs. Nearly no content with real 4C hair.
I disagree. There is actually a TON of content for 4c hair. But I think what she mentioned in the video (rasheeda vs lupita) comes into play. People would more quickly believe that they have dehydrated 4a hair than actual 4c hair and will seek out that content. So when you search the SEO pushes 3c/4a to the top of the algorithm, propelling their channels while 4c hair channels have to fight deliberate obscurity and find a way to market their content on platforms that have become increasingly hostile to content creator spam (and for a good reason, but it still serves to silence and drown out their voices).People are keen to imagine themselves in a form of black that is less inherently black. They don't want to follow routines for "nappy" hair because their hair "isn't that nappy." (And i get it to some degree, sparse 4c hair with a heavy clumping tendency can be mistaken for 4a hair when you are just starting out. But that's not the point) But as a result, people will decide to tell 4a bloggers that their hair is 4c and they'll start making 4c routines, empowered by an audience projecting their anti blackness. Or people will just choose to flock to 3c/4a for the same reasons. It's hard for a 4c channel to show on a search, therefore harder to gain subscribers, therefore harder to grow and make an impact
@@Limitedonathios I hadn't taken the youtube algorithm into account. You make a v valid point. It is frustrating though when I search for 4c videos and find mostly other hair types. My perspective is also informed by conversations with friends - we are black africans living in South Africa and we find that everything touted as 4c hair by hegemonic media ie Western/American, is so far from our own 'nappy' and 'kinky' hair. We joke sometimes that there's gotta be something in the water over there because in general, Americans don't seem to have an understanding of what real 4c hair is.
wow idc what anyone says anti- blackness is global and the fact that people can just think it’s okay to bully someone shows how miserable and boring there lives are that page needs to be removed so they can think about the harm they cause to you and other freeformers out there smdh😒
yeah it was really mean
The main point here: they mad their hair can’t freeform and look like this. 🤷🏽♀️ not our fault her hair looks luscious and the curls that get thousands of likes look like matted dog hair when they freeform.
It breaks my heart the MOST when “Black” folk practice anti-Blackness to one another.
I don’t claim those people as part of my culture...
Right!!
The natural hair community for some reason doesn’t consider locs as a natural hair . It’s so strange
This is sooooo sad😢 why can’t people just stop drinking painkillers for other peoples pain😫! That’s why I honestly don’t follow hair community pages ! I just do my thing! Sorry sis you went tru this! Lots of love my Nigerian sister
I remember in 2010 first hearing about the 'natural hair community' , reading blogs about going natural and even at one point thinking about freeforming or growing 'organic' locs. The movement was so new fresh and liberating. Now it's literally watered down trash - just a bunch of product pushing.
The natural hair community started way back in 2002 with websites/forums like Nappturality. That’s when i went natural.
@@fashionwithoutlabels yeah I think the natural hair movement has had a few revitalizations throughout the decades. I remember Nappturality as well but dark skin 4c hair content creators was still far in between compared to other light skin content creators.
they just want to get rich from selling products
Jemilla Barakaat yes i was on there!! And i had my natural hair pics on fotki!! LOL. That was a true time of natural hair support.
@@fashionwithoutlabels I went natural in college in the 90s and that was so “out there”! Even being in the black poetry scene, I was ridiculed. All these fist-in-the-air, back to Africa motherf*ckers were looking at me sideways because I decided to stop straightening my hair! 😕
Im like white girl from russia, but that video really made me sad. such horible people, like i dont understand why someone would be saying such hurfull things, espesialy if they are "naturalhair" comunity. Its rasist towards your own people wtf
It’s texturism and colorism , it’s sad
I'm just a white lady who doesn't know anything about black hair, but you're really lovely and your hair looks great and F anyone who tells you different!