I’m an age group triathlete and I share the same opinion that you have about the Alphafly. The solution I’m using to put this shoe on seems to be ridiculous but it works: a shoehorn.
I really struggle with the arch pain of the Alphafly 2. Got them for a good price, so the tough decision is to either send them back, or remove the glued in inners and replace with slightly wider ones!
I actually like Alphafly 2 over my Alphafly 1 because it feels so much better in the toebox. I used my alphafly 1 for my first marathon and i blistered big time. Alphafly 2 no problems at all! Great review of the new shoes.
If you cut the upper, you stand a good chance to ruin the integrity of the fit. I would avoid all attempts to modify the shoe. Regarding the tight fit, what I did is just wore the shoe day after day. I walked around in them , I would do foot folds with them on, calf lunges, any routine that made my feet bend while the shoe was on to stretch them. Another tactic to try if time is of the essence is get several wash clothes completely wet, saturate them with water. Stuff these wet wash clothes in the shoe until you cant get anymore in the shoe. Let them sit overnight. In the morning, remove the wash clothes then immediately put the shoes on and wear them for a day, repeat as necessary. Nowadays putting on these shoes takes no longer than any other shoe. That being said, I still rely on the pull tabs its just that today, the process is a lot easier. You will never get the shoe to be like a slip on. But that is deliberate to the design. The snug fit is done purposefully as it reduces heal slippage and makes foot and shoe more of a single entity performing the same task.
These are all fantastic recommendations and definitely things I will try in the future! If only you were a day or so earlier and I may not have already gone at them and put them under the knife. If i didn’t need to get them on quickly then they were literally a perfect fit. I haven’t cut them much and I’ve put elastic laces on them to try and keep that structure. Will have to see how it goes tomorrow! Thanks for the advice
I usually wear Hoka but saw the atomknit ones for £89! At cheshire oaks on black friday and had to buy them. First time wearing them I took 46 seconds off my 5k time. Might of been fresh legs but never felt so good on my legs, i’m struggling to not wear them every run and only save them for pbs
You swing your arms a lot when you run. Which is ok but swinging inwards with your hands and forearms wastes energy and it makes your chest smaller. It causes a rock back and forth in your torso. Relax and keep your arms straight, like the drive pistons on a train. They don't go in or out, just back and forth. If you're into cars, adjust the tow of your arms.
Great advice! I’ll try and use that as a cue tomorrow for the race and hopefully run with a bit better arm and leg tracking. Either way plenty to work on over the off season, thanks!
@@joshpain349 if Nike can release a shoe with a 4% return of energy and that be beneficial enough to matter. Then, small things count, like keeping your head up and your chest open. Just because other people do it, doesn't air it right. Know how many people are on PEDs? Doesn't make it right. Allowing your arms to bounce too much wasted energy. Anything that I wasteful in an Ironman is a waste.
Had them in a box for 2 years. Did a flat 13 miles and just couldn’t get comfortable. I felt like I was off the ground and couldn’t feel the ground. I felt like I wasn’t transfering force. It was good for my achilles tendon but bad for my gait. I did feel like I didn’t actually run at the end of workout so maybe I just need to accustom to the rebound. Because of other comments I may try again on the treadmill so I can swap them out when it feels so discombobulated.
Interesting Josh, I've seen such extreme reviews of the V2, people seem to either really love or really hate them!! Me I LOVE LOVE LOVE the original Alphafly even though I'm a really really slow runner and have only one marathon under my belt, soon to add number 2!! I had to go a full size up but actually I love all the massive toe room that that gave me. Last month a snaggled another pair of V1s for only €123!!!!!! 😁😁😁
That’s a bargain! And yeh completely personal preference. I think some of the data suggests they are a margin Ly better shoe economically than the V1, but as long as you’re comfortable and happy then that’s the main thing!
I put about 90 to 100 miles on alphafly 1 and they damaged my feet during a half marathon. If you have low arches or wide feet avoid these like the plague. The reviews won't say this though.
Yeh I can’t comment on the long term effects but I did manage to use them in my most recent race and thought they were really good to be fair. I know what you mean though, they are a bit tight width wise, however I have pretty average feet all around
What does low arches mean? I did a run yesterday in my Alphafly 1 and it felt a bit weird and today i can t say i feel recovered or that they protected my legs all that much so i dunno what the think about my pair. Are they just not good for me? What s going on? Can you elaborate a bit more on your comment please? How much breakin in would you say they need?
@Sergiu Salcau low arch on your feet. The alphafly is a race shoe so not really made for comfort but they do save your legs towards the end of long distance runs. They either work for you or don't I found. If they don't just move on they don't get any better or habe any break in time.
I have just received the shoes and trying to put them on was a real battle. I got them 1/2 size up as my usual. I just hope they won’t be tight above my ankle for long and once I start running with them they become a bit more loose around that area. 😕
I bought mine for Chicago Marathon. They were good but not awesome. I changed to Saucony pro three weeks before the Marathon. Not that fun anymore as the 1st versión
I use mine for walking. The reason I bought this shoe is because the bottom of my toe and my heel hurts when walking one block. This shoe is the only shoe that I can wear and it doesn’t hurt. The bad thing is it takes all my strength to put it on. Oh well at least I can now take my dog for a walk and not hurt.
Question for those who used Alphafly 2 in triathlon. how did you feel? Did you wear it smoothly? Please tell me the solution if I can't put it on smoothly.
I liked the looks of these shoes. I’m not a runner at all, should I buy them for general walking and moving? I just need the best cushion around heel and toes, what you say?
I’d say probably not just for walking around. If you want something with more cushion that’s also a running shoe then the Nike invincible 3s are definitely a good shout
I don´t know guys but the alphafly next 2 are killing my arches! I am very disappointed about spendind $330 on these. Anyways... Good video and good channel! You´ve got a new subscriber
i wore these and i don’t know why the heel really fucked up my skin and it hurt as i was running but still felt good running in, maybe it was cuz i pushed it and run for an hour but i hope this was the only time it happens
It could be sock choice? Wear either thinner or thicker socks maybe? They did also rub my heel on one random run and I just didn’t wear those socks again
What socks do you use? It could be due to heat or alternatively too much or too little room for your feet in the shoes which will cause a big too much movement. Try thinner socks (if too hot) and thicker if too much room
I'm a sprinter and i'm looking for something new i had the Pegasus 39's and was looking at the Alphaflys and Nike Tempo's and just wondering if you can use these for Sprinting ?
Yes definitely. They are very quick regardless. Make your technique more efficient so 3k would be still in their remit. I think under that it might be more beneficial to have a more light weight zoom x shoe
does anyone know if the orange nike alphafly 2 will be coming again, since they are currently not available on the nike website, but I would like to order them from the nike website
I have yes! They were my shoe of choice before these. They are amazing. Lighter and easier to get on, I’d even say more comfortable for me too… but there’s no denying how good the alphas are for endurance running at the end of an Olympic/70.3 or more. It just feels like they are so much more economical
I get the arch pain people are talking about when i first put them on. But soon as i start running feels like im running on clouds ajd get no arch pain whilst running
@@Josh_lewis they have a lot of cushion but aren’t “legal” since they’re over the 40mm or whatever. Trying to decide between the alpha or prime x for an upcoming marathon.
Yeh they are quite narrow, especially with the stiffer uppers! The Pegasus seem to be flexible enough though and then instead of alphas which are quite narrow, the Vapourfly’s could be an option?
Noted! I’ll definitely keep it briefer in the future. I was going for more of a an insight into the training and my thoughts around it, but agree I can be more concise and maybe do a roundup of the important info at the start of the vid and then those who Want to continue watching the training and my other rambles can carry on… would that be better?
@@Josh_lewis Very cool and humble of you to welcome constructive criticism. Overall (i.e., production-wise), your video is of good quality, so keep at it. Maybe a little more concise and systematic in your review of the shoe. One channel that stands out for me in terms of providing excellent content (tips, suggestions, reviews, AND personal running journey anecdotes), all in a concise manner, is The FOD Runner. Then again, I’m a “beginner” so I guess it largely depends on your target audience. Hope this helps.
It’s so disappointing when you spend so much on the shoe and it doesn’t fit right! Hopefully you find a pair that’ll fit better and give you as much benefit
Yes! The shoe horn works! Was about to drop this comment myself. Though I found them progressively easier to get on with each use, I still find myself using the shoe horn 5 or 6 runs in.
Well I didn’t find that they were good in transition for triathlon? They would be bad unless you made amendments to them as you’d spend forever trying to put them on in transition 👍
I’m an age group triathlete and I share the same opinion that you have about the Alphafly. The solution I’m using to put this shoe on seems to be ridiculous but it works: a shoehorn.
I really struggle with the arch pain of the Alphafly 2. Got them for a good price, so the tough decision is to either send them back, or remove the glued in inners and replace with slightly wider ones!
Feel the pain bro, same situation for me
After a few runs, the shoe is much easier to put on. The first time is a real battle but after that no issue 👍
I may have committed to the cut already… didn’t have the time to stretch it!
Vr true
does it cause pressure on top of foot? i have high instep i'm afraid the instep pressure would be too much
I actually like Alphafly 2 over my Alphafly 1 because it feels so much better in the toebox. I used my alphafly 1 for my first marathon and i blistered big time. Alphafly 2 no problems at all! Great review of the new shoes.
Agreed! And thanks Randal 👍🏼
If you cut the upper, you stand a good chance to ruin the integrity of the fit. I would avoid all attempts to modify the shoe. Regarding the tight fit, what I did is just wore the shoe day after day. I walked around in them , I would do foot folds with them on, calf lunges, any routine that made my feet bend while the shoe was on to stretch them. Another tactic to try if time is of the essence is get several wash clothes completely wet, saturate them with water. Stuff these wet wash clothes in the shoe until you cant get anymore in the shoe. Let them sit overnight. In the morning, remove the wash clothes then immediately put the shoes on and wear them for a day, repeat as necessary. Nowadays putting on these shoes takes no longer than any other shoe. That being said, I still rely on the pull tabs its just that today, the process is a lot easier. You will never get the shoe to be like a slip on. But that is deliberate to the design. The snug fit is done purposefully as it reduces heal slippage and makes foot and shoe more of a single entity performing the same task.
These are all fantastic recommendations and definitely things I will try in the future! If only you were a day or so earlier and I may not have already gone at them and put them under the knife.
If i didn’t need to get them on quickly then they were literally a perfect fit. I haven’t cut them much and I’ve put elastic laces on them to try and keep that structure. Will have to see how it goes tomorrow! Thanks for the advice
imagine paying a lot only to put some work just for it to fit. at it's price, it should work right out of the box
I usually wear Hoka but saw the atomknit ones for £89! At cheshire oaks on black friday and had to buy them. First time wearing them I took 46 seconds off my 5k time. Might of been fresh legs but never felt so good on my legs, i’m struggling to not wear them every run and only save them for pbs
You swing your arms a lot when you run. Which is ok but swinging inwards with your hands and forearms wastes energy and it makes your chest smaller. It causes a rock back and forth in your torso. Relax and keep your arms straight, like the drive pistons on a train. They don't go in or out, just back and forth. If you're into cars, adjust the tow of your arms.
Great advice! I’ll try and use that as a cue tomorrow for the race and hopefully run with a bit better arm and leg tracking. Either way plenty to work on over the off season, thanks!
When I watch Hayden Wild run, it’s obvious arm location doesn’t make much difference.
@@joshpain349 if Nike can release a shoe with a 4% return of energy and that be beneficial enough to matter. Then, small things count, like keeping your head up and your chest open. Just because other people do it, doesn't air it right. Know how many people are on PEDs? Doesn't make it right. Allowing your arms to bounce too much wasted energy. Anything that I wasteful in an Ironman is a waste.
Added to that, remember you are driving your arms back, not forward.
Ive used dozens of different brands and models of runners and the AlphaFly Next is the best I've ever had on foot and in marathon
Thank you for the review!
They are so nice and comfy but hard to slip into
Agreed!
You could try a shoe horn to make it easier.
This is 100% true as a National Runner and an International Swimmer anything with the word racing will be hard to get into to
Had them in a box for 2 years. Did a flat 13 miles and just couldn’t get comfortable. I felt like I was off the ground and couldn’t feel the ground. I felt like I wasn’t transfering force. It was good for my achilles tendon but bad for my gait. I did feel like I didn’t actually run at the end of workout so maybe I just need to accustom to the rebound. Because of other comments I may try again on the treadmill so I can swap them out when it feels so discombobulated.
Yes, cutting the upper is "mad". Either lossen the laces until you can get into them, or take Stealth's suggestion and use a shoe horn. I use one.
Interesting Josh, I've seen such extreme reviews of the V2, people seem to either really love or really hate them!! Me I LOVE LOVE LOVE the original Alphafly even though I'm a really really slow runner and have only one marathon under my belt, soon to add number 2!! I had to go a full size up but actually I love all the massive toe room that that gave me. Last month a snaggled another pair of V1s for only €123!!!!!! 😁😁😁
That’s a bargain! And yeh completely personal preference. I think some of the data suggests they are a margin Ly better shoe economically than the V1, but as long as you’re comfortable and happy then that’s the main thing!
@@Josh_lewis Interesting!! But yeah we’re all sooo massively individual with shoes, it’s incredible!!
First run in these and my calves are struggling, regardless of the amount of strength training I’ve done, hopefully it doesn’t take too long to adjust
I put about 90 to 100 miles on alphafly 1 and they damaged my feet during a half marathon. If you have low arches or wide feet avoid these like the plague. The reviews won't say this though.
Yeh I can’t comment on the long term effects but I did manage to use them in my most recent race and thought they were really good to be fair. I know what you mean though, they are a bit tight width wise, however I have pretty average feet all around
What does low arches mean? I did a run yesterday in my Alphafly 1 and it felt a bit weird and today i can t say i feel recovered or that they protected my legs all that much so i dunno what the think about my pair. Are they just not good for me? What s going on? Can you elaborate a bit more on your comment please? How much breakin in would you say they need?
@Sergiu Salcau low arch on your feet. The alphafly is a race shoe so not really made for comfort but they do save your legs towards the end of long distance runs. They either work for you or don't I found. If they don't just move on they don't get any better or habe any break in time.
I have just received the shoes and trying to put them on was a real battle. I got them 1/2 size up as my usual. I just hope they won’t be tight above my ankle for long and once I start running with them they become a bit more loose around that area. 😕
I bought mine for Chicago Marathon. They were good but not awesome.
I changed to Saucony pro three weeks before the Marathon.
Not that fun anymore as the 1st versión
Yeh I don’t think they’re for everyone. I found them quite clumpy to begin with but I really get on with them now!
Don't cut them, they are like surgical gloves hard to get on and off. But when they are on they fit like, well, a glove
Completely agree. But couldn’t afford the time wasted in transition of trying to get them on like that.
I use mine for walking. The reason I bought this shoe is because the bottom of my toe and my heel hurts when walking one block. This shoe is the only shoe that I can wear and it doesn’t hurt.
The bad thing is it takes all my strength to put it on. Oh well at least I can now take my dog for a walk and not hurt.
thanks for sharing Josh!, great,👍
Do you heel lock the alpha fly’s or are they designed so that you don’t need to? I heel locked mine for a half and they cut up the top of my foot
Question for those who used Alphafly 2 in triathlon.
how did you feel?
Did you wear it smoothly?
Please tell me the solution if I can't put it on smoothly.
Not sure what ya mean?
I had no issue getting them on. Unfortunately after about 5 runs an air pod went flat.
I’ve heard reports of this happening… very strange and something I’ll watch out for!
Call Nike. I bet that they will replace them!
@@sandradyer5956 they provided a refund....
I know they are nice and comfy but hard to slip into
I liked the looks of these shoes. I’m not a runner at all, should I buy them for general walking and moving? I just need the best cushion around heel and toes, what you say?
I’d say probably not just for walking around. If you want something with more cushion that’s also a running shoe then the Nike invincible 3s are definitely a good shout
Thanks buddy!
I don´t know guys but the alphafly next 2 are killing my arches! I am very disappointed about spendind $330 on these.
Anyways... Good video and good channel! You´ve got a new subscriber
Replace with a wider insole
i wore these and i don’t know why the heel really fucked up my skin and it hurt as i was running but still felt good running in, maybe it was cuz i pushed it and run for an hour but i hope this was the only time it happens
It could be sock choice? Wear either thinner or thicker socks maybe? They did also rub my heel on one random run and I just didn’t wear those socks again
I’m only able to make 5k in them before they give me blisters on the sole of my foot any suggestions? I’m not ready to give up on them yet
What socks do you use? It could be due to heat or alternatively too much or too little room for your feet in the shoes which will cause a big too much movement. Try thinner socks (if too hot) and thicker if too much room
The high arch caused blisters on both my feet.
Me too! What can we do about it???
@@kimberlylianhong9819 Tried them again today. Thicker socks and blister tape definitely helped.
@@seanw6313 are you still getting blisters? because I just bought a pair and have had blood blisters both times after 6ks. so frustrating.
I un-laced mine and it fit much better.
Yeh I tried this too but still tough to get on. I went for the cut in the end and it’s worked well!
I'm a sprinter and i'm looking for something new i had the Pegasus 39's and was looking at the Alphaflys and Nike Tempo's and just wondering if you can use these for Sprinting ?
Please tell me the solution if I can't put it on smoothly
I know these arent designed for 3km races, but, if I did wear them for 3km races/ workouts would they be good??
Yes definitely. They are very quick regardless. Make your technique more efficient so 3k would be still in their remit. I think under that it might be more beneficial to have a more light weight zoom x shoe
Do you get blisters in these heard negative about this shoe
Do you recommend pegasus for recovery trainnings? or they are not confy/cushioned enough?
I’m a recent convert to the Pegasus 39! They are a great shoe for mileage and yes, comfortable and cushioned ☺️
does anyone know if the orange nike alphafly 2 will be coming again, since they are currently not available on the nike website, but I would like to order them from the nike website
from Boston 10's to these how big of a difference will it be? Huge?
Yes a huge difference. It’s incomparable. But probably somewhere between 5-10seconds per km
From the very 1st time I'm able to put on those shoes using a shoehorn.
Have you tried the vaporflys? How do you suppose they compare?
I have yes! They were my shoe of choice before these. They are amazing. Lighter and easier to get on, I’d even say more comfortable for me too… but there’s no denying how good the alphas are for endurance running at the end of an Olympic/70.3 or more. It just feels like they are so much more economical
Which website cam i still get the alphafly 1 at??
I get the arch pain people are talking about when i first put them on. But soon as i start running feels like im running on clouds ajd get no arch pain whilst running
Just ran for the first time on AF2, I have sign of blister. will it go away after next couple run? or do you have any tips to avoid this? thanks man
I cant understand why white color too expensive
How is the sizing?
Can you compare them to new balance supercomp trainer v3?
please use a shoe horn. i've done it in tri's and do it when putting on the alphaflys until the upper stretches a little
😂😂 I’d definitely get some decent coverage from that!
Hi there would you say it’s true to size or does it fit a bit tight would you say to get a half size bigger thank you
I’d say you could potentially go .5 bigger… I’m between sizes
I wear 11.5s in nike tempos
Pretty flat feet. Would i need to size up or stay 11.5
I think it depends. I’m an 8 in all Nike shoes… but tbh I could go .5 bigger in the alphas… I’m probably in between sizes
Have you tried the Adizero Prime X Strung?
I haven’t no! Would you recommend?
@@Josh_lewis they have a lot of cushion but aren’t “legal” since they’re over the 40mm or whatever. Trying to decide between the alpha or prime x for an upcoming marathon.
@@Mike_Rundle They aren't legal, but unless you are winning prizes, it won't matter.
I use a metal shoe horn in transition
The tight fit is probably the reason I haven't seen any pro race in them on Hawaii.
Good idea to cut the tongue so easier to put on.
Would you say to get alphas over the vapours?
Personally yes, but a lot of others prefer the Vapours… testing suggests the alphas are better but again it’s personal preference
Is that orange color under women's section?
No I have a feeling it was the original colour-way. Probably discontinued
My feet is too wide for Nike.
Yeh they are quite narrow, especially with the stiffer uppers! The Pegasus seem to be flexible enough though and then instead of alphas which are quite narrow, the Vapourfly’s could be an option?
I don't agree on the second version sorry, the upper material (atomknit?) literally torn my skin and toes!
Oh really?! With socks as well? I didn’t find this personally but could be the fit?
@@Josh_lewis of course with socks, they’re so hard😬 the size is perfect, it’s just the plastic upper that breaks my skin and toe😓
You seem like a nice guy but you take 5.20 minutes to say they’re good shoes but they take a bit of wearing in. I get it.
Noted! I’ll definitely keep it briefer in the future. I was going for more of a an insight into the training and my thoughts around it, but agree I can be more concise and maybe do a roundup of the important info at the start of the vid and then those who Want to continue watching the training and my other rambles can carry on… would that be better?
@@Josh_lewis Very cool and humble of you to welcome constructive criticism. Overall (i.e., production-wise), your video is of good quality, so keep at it. Maybe a little more concise and systematic in your review of the shoe. One channel that stands out for me in terms of providing excellent content (tips, suggestions, reviews, AND personal running journey anecdotes), all in a concise manner, is The FOD Runner. Then again, I’m a “beginner” so I guess it largely depends on your target audience. Hope this helps.
what is the blood test at the end?
Testing my lactate for intensity control
My first run after 3km got blister on both my heel
It’s so disappointing when you spend so much on the shoe and it doesn’t fit right! Hopefully you find a pair that’ll fit better and give you as much benefit
5 secs per k difference?
Yeh when watching it back I noticed I hadn’t specified … but yes 5-8secs per km 👍🏼👍🏼
@@Josh_lewis cheers! Would definitely be noticeable on a 70.3 then 👍
Do they fit true to size?
I’d say slightly on the tighter side to the other Nikes that I use, however I’m still the same size as usual and not half a size up
Use a shoe horn to put it on! Easy!
😂 wish I’d thought of that!!!
I’d love to see a professional triathlete with a shoe horn mid race 😂
Yes! The shoe horn works! Was about to drop this comment myself. Though I found them progressively easier to get on with each use, I still find myself using the shoe horn 5 or 6 runs in.
Instructions unclear, ended up using the Alphafly to put a shoe horn on my feet.
Are you guys honestly saying take a shoe horn into transition at a pro race? Josh would get laughed off the course.
Any recommendations about the sizing? Do I need to have a 1 size up from my original size?
No, I tried going up by .5 and they were too big. They are true to size for me
No one breaking records here
Get the asics metaspeeds :)
Are they good for stopping arch blisters?
@@brandonbridge8672 from my experience yes :)
Clickbait : Why did u write in the title image : “WHY SO BAD?” …..
Well I didn’t find that they were good in transition for triathlon? They would be bad unless you made amendments to them as you’d spend forever trying to put them on in transition 👍
Tried these in Nike store. They felt like Crocs...no thanks
🤣 🤣 🤣 Dont wanna lose time wtf its not like you run 100m sprint
It’s crazy at the end you look ten years older because your body lost so much fluid and is basically sucking and using the water in your skin
Hahaha almost definitely. I was also feeling 10 years older, with limbs creaking walking around and up stairs 😂