Native American Bone Breastplate (1800's)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
  • One of the real classic pieces of Native American dress in the popular imagination. I was excited to see an authentic one in person for the first time.

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  • @Felix13ish
    @Felix13ish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There are different variations of the bone breastplate. There are the straight/firm ones you see, and there are loose/wide breastplates that some other tribes use. Some people use mirrors, some use conchos. Like you said some used bones, glass, shells, brass. There are others that used horn, copper, silver, rock(turquoise, light stone). Heck some even used bullet shells on the breastplate. I forgot if you said this in the video but some people also stain them aswell, like the coffee stain, some used berries, and other materials to dye them. In modern times like now, we use plastic molds to make the bones, and some use pony beads to replace the glass/brass beads. This what I all learned from my elders and parents. I hope this can give you more info on them. I sometimes make them aswell.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was really amazing to read. Thanks for all the information and for sharing.

  • @ArizonaGhostriders
    @ArizonaGhostriders 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, that is really impressive. A lot of craftmanship. Thanks for showing it!

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought you when I saw this!

    • @davidduran4432
      @davidduran4432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watch your chanel all the time.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much.

    • @Sir_knight_trooper
      @Sir_knight_trooper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natives have very good Craftsman and great work ethic

  • @Telestations
    @Telestations 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    just about finished the Eagle bone Brest plate or chest plate as some would say - took 200 Eagles to make the front - 150 to make the back and 50 to make the 2 sides - will post some videos and photos of it finished - Eagles will be returning next few weeks and the work looking for sick Eagles in the forest will start again - rescued 10 last season - so far rescued over 70 past 16 years - love your videos

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's incredible, and thanks.

  • @ShaneNeggers
    @ShaneNeggers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The teachings around Indigenous circles, Anishinaabe, declare these plates were being used as armour and protection in nation battles. Bone was used because of there durability and resistance against arrows and spears. Not sure where you received this information? These teachings are passed down through many generations.

  • @samanthamitchellprete5646
    @samanthamitchellprete5646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I looooove indigenous clothing and jewelry 😍😍😍

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw a huge collection of it just yesterday. Moccasins, capes, baby carriers… all kinds of stuff.

  • @davidduran4432
    @davidduran4432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video as all ways.

  • @Hardrada88
    @Hardrada88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before the late 1860s these were really unheard of..rather rare. They had been made before but out of dentilium(?) The clam shell beads and trade gorgets, pectoral plates were rather popular. German silver, with a design of buffalo or thunder bird or other. The hairpipe beads, so ive been told, were actually pipe stems. Initially they started out as that then when they realised the indigenous people liked them, they were churned out in factories in England and shipped for trade. These breastplates were really a sign of wealth..glass beads were very very expensive. Bad Hand said that a bundle could cost as much as ten buffalo hides. I think 3 would get you a shabby trade gun so it shows the early expense of the fur trade. The crow breastplates loop down..check em out they are awesome looking! These were, in my eyes, definitely a sign of wealth to wear around village but theyre heavy, a bit clunky..id not want to ride hunt or fight in one as whatever you have to carry..you have to carry..special charms or amulets would be preferred. I have a crow one which is just twisted hide, two small medicine bundles and a bear claw. However going to a meeting, ceremony, dance..these are great to wear to show a status. Great video, well explained and put together.

  • @kiwiprouddavids724
    @kiwiprouddavids724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always wondered how these were made ,I thought there must have been a particular bone from a animal that lent it's self easily to do this like a hollow rib bone or something.
    I'm a amateur bone carver and you wouldn't believe how hard it is to get a straight hole through a long peace of bone like that . I thought they might have even been made from pork pine quills . So glad you did the close ups of this

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found the video useful. Thanks for watching.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ObjectHistory yeah sorry I went through binge watching and commenting on few of your videos. Like you I like the more tribal side of history

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@kiwiprouddavids724 No apologies necessary for interacting with my channel!

  • @jasonhand7334
    @jasonhand7334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bones are piezoelectric and these could have interacted with the bodies torus field. Interesting. Thanks and peace

  • @hg077
    @hg077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This actually was armor, they were made from buffalo bones and they were able to stop an arrow from piercing a warriors chest

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d be interested in reading any reference material you can point me to that discussed that theory.

    • @hg077
      @hg077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ObjectHistory oral history that was passed down generation to generation from my ancestors

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting, thanks for sharing that perspective

  • @Sir_knight_trooper
    @Sir_knight_trooper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting... Do you know of any combat armor? I'm helping my buddies get into armored fencing

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know there are tribes that used leather armor but believe that was pretty rare. Believe there’s even an anecdote about bison leather turning a bullet. Of course I’m not saying it could reliably repel a black powder fired bullet but under just the right conditions, it’s believable.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know there are tribes that used leather armor but believe that was pretty rare. Believe there’s even an anecdote about bison leather turning a bullet. Of course I’m not saying it could reliably repel a black powder fired bullet but under just the right conditions, it’s believable.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know there are tribes that used leather armor but believe that was pretty rare. Believe there’s even an anecdote about bison leather turning a bullet. Of course I’m not saying it could reliably repel a black powder fired bullet but under just the right conditions, it’s believable.

    • @Sir_knight_trooper
      @Sir_knight_trooper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ObjectHistory ahh I'm making my buddies some rawhide and sand armor with bone scales for em I've been in hema for a year and when I told my buddies this they wanted in but as their own heritage

  • @joetrudellmajesticrhythms7269
    @joetrudellmajesticrhythms7269 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ihave a question.. if these bones are all the same.. what factory mass produced these ? I've seen others Hand carved as should be and are not all equal.. how did natives make shine finsh on these if they used real bone ?

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't know for a fact but I'd guess that colonists began manufacturing these for trade with Native Americans. Just like the beads they used so much in decorating various objects.... their production by Western powers would explain the uniformity.

    • @joetrudellmajesticrhythms7269
      @joetrudellmajesticrhythms7269 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ObjectHistory But how about before that.. im just wondering why the colonists would give them such products to protect themselves if they were at battle.. and who delivered them ?

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joetrudellmajesticrhythms7269 It was a complicated relationship. Lots of trading, which both sides liked, from the get-go (furs for metal tools, etc). So presumably colonists saw Native American bone breastplates, which became less utilitarian and more pure decoration over time, and then started making this kind of material which the natives liked because it's more uniform, didn't take them any manual labor to produce (carving bone), etc.

  • @CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior
    @CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do they wear them for is it some kind of body armour to protect them being shot with arrows or from being stabbed??

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some oral tradition seems to indicate it was a kind of functional armor but I have serious doubts about that.

  • @5ycamoor
    @5ycamoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video once again, thanks. Robert, do you have an email contact? I can’t seem to find one either here or in your book. I have some interesting material on antipodean impact weapons if you’re interested. Thanks.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see it in the channel's About section but I'm no pro a the finer points of TH-cam channel management honestly so maybe it's something only I can see.

    • @5ycamoor
      @5ycamoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Object History - No, although you refer to it in the About section, it doesn’t appear - for me, anyway.
      Thanks for that, I’ll email you shortly - just some reference material, you may be interested in.
      I’m no expert on TH-cam either, but you may want to edit out your address in the above comment now, to prevent it being continually picked up and used by spam bots.
      Thanks again.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, would love to see it. Ah, great tip on the em address. Thanks.

    • @5ycamoor
      @5ycamoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Object History - No worries, I’ve sent you an email.

    • @ObjectHistory
      @ObjectHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it. I am neck deep in a creative endeavor that is not advertised on this channel at all so I'll get to it in a while.

  • @erichusayn
    @erichusayn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool!

  • @hectororellana3397
    @hectororellana3397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My theory is that the American Indian was une the lost tribes of Israel, they came from the land of Ofir . The bible says Ofir was known for its very fine gold. After the invasion of Israel on 70 year of the Lord, they migrated to the north of Europe and crossed the Atlantic by the Bering Strait and settled in America . Here they lost their identity and learned their own language. This information comes from the Catholic priests who learned their language and documented the information. I believe the adopted some of their ancestors customs, and they used the pectoral the same way the priests of Israel did in their religious practices. This information was collected by the Spanish people , and it’s part of the history of America.