Nick Ross and Sue Cook present. Cases include the Karen Hales murder in Ipswich, Suffolk, the abduction of a family in Deal, Kent and an attempted murder in Bath.
Why does that freak you out so much lol? I read that and had to watch based on the comment...Idk maybe because it was built up so much in my mind that it would be so terrifying. I just didn't feel frightened. However, I have watched millions of murder and crime recreations due to my line of work, so maybe I've become desensitized a bit. However, due to seeing this comment and a similar comment on another video, I learned about Karen's case which I had never heard of before. Interesting indeed. I hope her family sees justice one day, this is a solvable crime.
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The Karen murder is horrendous. Her poor daughter hopefully doesn't remember it but I really felt for her mum and dad, having to see her like that. Whoever did it obviously knew her. I doubt it was Steve Wright and can't see why it would have been her partner.
What makes you think the killer was known to her . I know statistically the probability is often the case , I'm not seeing this though . It Could be a psychological issue.
That "bit" where someone was turning Karen Hales door handle always gives me the creeps and I have no doubt that was no intended burglary. Do people think she knew her killer?
My heart broke for Karen’s partner her parents and especially her little girl Emily she had to grow up without her Mummy no child should experience that Xx
@@oliprj8676 it's still unsolved - so it's still plausible to some , a matter of elimination. The reconstruction doesn't cover the relationship between the two thoroughly or emotionally , one can only speculate as to what happened. Using the only events that happened around the time of the murder . It's possible the killer wasn't even spotted at all . Or there was something more insidious within the relationship between both of them . We've only got the husband's word for it that they were both happy for those six years . I'm assuming that they looked into people with mental health issues or drug dependency issues locally or at least eliminated some .
I was talking to my friends father, back in the 80’s him and his mates would travel to England to commit robberies, mainly pharmacies but the odd bank or post office …..wild days. He wasnt a down and out either, he had his own business that’s still running today 🤯
Sorry but the jeweller shouldn't have opened that door. He even said that he was wary of people coming to the house being a jeweller and asks his wife to watch his back...lol. He should have had a very secure front door given his occupation and asked who it was before just opening the door. What a numpty.
If the killer targeted her specifically, he'd have unfortunately chose another time to strike again . If it was just a robbery gone wrong ( which is plausible) but unlikely . The killer might've just broken in and stolen and never returned again . Personally I think she was specifically targeted. Especially if the killer used and carried a knife .
The headless body was that of Adnan Abdul Hassan Al Sane a Kuwaiti banker who lived in London and was linked to a double shooting of an business rival 5 days earlier
Very good thinking! Something was clearly up with him. Maybe he burned his hand whilst setting Karen alight & was clutching his hand into his stomach ....? I wonder if anyone was treated for burns that night? I would've been asking local medics/hospitals that question. He looked scary as hell staring at the dog walker in the park!
This episode was already on here for a few years but this is great quality. Karen still unsolved - does anyone know why? Was the man in the Parka even connected?
The man was seen in the vicinity and road at around the time of the murder . Acting agitated and suspicious, doesn't mean he was involved . But he needs to be eliminated. Nobody come forward as far as I know . So therefore , the connection or correlation is still palpable.
The Karen story is eerie af, I dunno how she had the balls to stay in there after that. I would’ve called my partner or parents to come home/over right away. Also I wish she went to her parents home that day instead of staying there. I also think the person was trying the door handle to scare her, maybe get her to open the front door to see who it was so they could come on in
He could've just knocked at the door . I'm sure that would've worked better . I think he was trying his luck . Hoping it was unlocked . An agenda with fatal consequences was more likely his clandestine reason . The killer was determined, tried twice . Two nights in a row.
I don't know why but the Karen Hales murder seems, to me, similar to the Julie Pacey case which happened about a year later and is also still unsolved. Also was that Thelma Barlow playing the mother in law in the robbery reconstruction?
The killers were both separate and different , Julie pacey's killer was stocky and older than the perpetrator of Karen's .if the reconstruction can be believed. I wouldn't rule out Robert Napper . Although it's 59 miles away from his flat . There's similar characteristics about her having a child with her and parks and chain walks surrounding her house . Also the house is oddly positioned with a large feld behind the housing area . Napper was a small time burglar , he had a distinctive stoop like this mans description. I believe he killed more women than the three officially. Jean Bradley, even Claire tiltman , Deborah Lindsey . Penny bell could be his victims regardless of the man charged for Claire's murde. His supposedly preferred targets were pretty young blondes . But , killers MO can always change .
A man was jailed for life in 2014 for the murder of Claire Tiltman. Such a sad story that both her parents died before justice was done. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Claire_Tiltman
@@rubyred7018 yeah Colin ash Smith . Who I'm convinced didn't do it . I might be wrong . But he was left handed , the wounds were predominantly from a right handed killer , the ferociousness and the time frame , ( incidentally napper was released a day or two from a custodian sentence) which would've made the police libel . Colin's other attacks were nothing compared to Claire's injuries . Two different killers in my mind .
Napper released earlier than he should've been allowed under a custodian sentence . If he murdered Claire tiltman within that time , the police are libel that's what I meant . Also a man was seen fitting nappers description at Greenhithe train station. Several witnesses too. Why did the police ignore this ? .
I still think about this case. I always thought it was someone close to her like her husband but he was cleared. It seems unlikely it'd be a stranger if they came back to the same house twice AND set the body alight.
The Sheffield Wednesday result the night before that Sue alludes to was a 5-0 annihilation by an Eric Cantona-inspired Manchester United. United were closing in on the league and cup double.
That Sheffield Wednesday appeal seemed odd, weren't they a fairly big team back then too, a same appeal these days would get laughed at with the money in the game
Yes . Everything fits his MO . Young woman and child . 59 miles away from his flat in plumstead , only 2 hours away by train . Same stoop , his hair would look dark because his reddish hair would appear dark at night , flat footed , hands in pocket . 6 ft 2 tall , thousand yard stair . Impulsiveness.lots of green chain walks and parks in the housing area where she lived , My only quibble. He tried to enter her home the night previously. And killed the next night . This would mean he'd have to have been staying somewhere in the area , cheap lodgings ? Otherwise I can't forsee him going back and forth from south London . It's just not his style . He was probably behind Jean Bradley's murder and Claire tiltman , Deborah Lindsey. And many more . But yes . Robert Napper definitely comes to my mind now ..
If you pause the video at 9:55 and envisage a parting in his hair and no tash above his lip with a small variation to his eyes with freckles and gingerness . The resemblance is uncanny and chilling .
Lmao The acting of the asians in the last reconstruction was very wooden.. And lol at the perps saying 'bout time, been waiting bloody ages'.. Did they ever catch the guys?
i think Karen was killed by someone who she knew so she opened the door volunatrily to them and once inside things took a horrific turn and she was murdered in front of her daughter
The door might've been momentarily or accidently open or unlocked . If she was cleaning the house, hoovering . It's possible her windows might've been open . He could've climbed through an open window . Or just knocked and struck . He had a knife . If Karen knew him , why did he try and enter via the door previously by turning the door handle clandestinely? He was determined to get into that place armed with a knife . One can only speculate. But I think this was a deliberate act . And she was specifically targeted.
The whole sequence of events doesn't make sense really.Sunday afternoon is a weird time to do a burglary when a lot of people are at home unless you know otherwise.
Ian Bousfield but was it a burglary? From what I gather, the only person Karen told about someone trying the door handle the night before was the husband . Convenient ? And setting fire to her body with her daughter in the room. Disgraceful. I wonder if the husband had another woman at the time.
What i dont like about the Karen hales case is the two young locals walking past. Just so happenss to see te blue mack and cant recall the time because he was going to ask the time to the suspect. Then walks past and says not fire condensation. No chance. Also the noises at the front and back of the house could be down to two people. Then the stabbing and fire and the kid left beside mum unharmed while mum's on fire. Just seems like 2 people.
Hi Folks, What's the episode uploaded in last month or so, it's a murder of female, guy jumps out on cycle path and makes a funny face in front of a woman
I'm an Ipswich lad lived near Karen's house any way my sister got a house near there at the time they stole her stuff then put it back I'm pretty sure it was Roland brown he looks like the pic
Poor Karen must have been absolutely terrified! Awful fornher father to find her but thank goodness they turned uo whwn they did or little Emily may have been killed too wither burned alive or from smoke inhalation!
@alanberkeley7282 because maybe it didn't happen . Perhaps it's just something her husband might've stated and added specifically to the police to distance any blame on himself or explained to Karen it wasn't worth the hassle . Because obviously she wasn't around to explain this one . Curious ...
@Who wants to be a millionaire? Each to their own, I can't see the problem myself, and yes, I still do it now. It's a comfort thing. Nobody understands, but I'm fine with that.
There was 2 inches of snow on the ground the day Karen was murdered, but police found no footprints leading back to the house. She was clearly killed before her partner went to work....
@@MultiEve35 because it sounds like Karen’s body was set alight , but not the house itself . So enough to cause some smoke but not a huge fire. Not sure though - I’d have to rewatch it again
@Who wants to be a millionaire? It was but if you know something different to the detectives (other than just a "must be the partner"), I suggest you contact Suffolk police.
The bit in the Karen Hales reconstruction where the door handle turns is one of those crimewatch moments that sticks out for me
I always see that image clearly in my mind anytime I think of her reconstruction!!!!
Why does that freak you out so much lol? I read that and had to watch based on the comment...Idk maybe because it was built up so much in my mind that it would be so terrifying. I just didn't feel frightened. However, I have watched millions of murder and crime recreations due to my line of work, so maybe I've become desensitized a bit.
However, due to seeing this comment and a similar comment on another video, I learned about Karen's case which I had never heard of before. Interesting indeed. I hope her family sees justice one day, this is a solvable crime.
@@Jilli8310 Why didn't they take finger prints of the door unless he had gloves on?
If it actually happened? Nobody can confirm it.
@@oliprj8676 She told her partner about it.
Karen Hale case reconstruction is one of the darkest in CW history.
Thanks Redcard74, I'm totally addicted to watching all of these classic episodes from back in the day, keep up the good work......
"She's old and she doesn't speak any English " = Crimewatch Winner of THE MOST WOODEN ACTING ever.
CrimeWatch in the 80's and 90's was the best. 👌
I'm sure the victims were thrilled
It’s so horrific that Karen was discovered by her own dad, especially that she was set alight.
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The Karen Hales one, was the one that creeped me out the most on any crimewatch. That door handle though
Freaked me out! Would've called the police as soon as I saw that handle move!
The Karen murder is horrendous. Her poor daughter hopefully doesn't remember it but I really felt for her mum and dad, having to see her like that. Whoever did it obviously knew her. I doubt it was Steve Wright and can't see why it would have been her partner.
What makes you think the killer was known to her . I know statistically the probability is often the case , I'm not seeing this though . It Could be a psychological issue.
OF COURSE IT WASN’T HER HUSBAND, HE WAS AT WORK!
There’s nothing to suggest she knew her killer, Steve Wright didn’t move to Ipswich til 2004 and her partner was at work. Don’t give up the day job! 😂
Poor Karen, it must have been so difficult for her family, especially her daughter. Heartbreaking. :(
Karen hales murder is 25 years ago this month amazingly .Still unsolved and her poor family still without answers
Very odd case - 27 years now !!!
28 now !!!!
@@IanP1963 keep counting
Because he burned the body no cctv no dna and no fingerprints. Perfect crime in the 90s
30 years at the time of me watching this episode
That "bit" where someone was turning Karen Hales door handle always gives me the creeps and I have no doubt that was no intended burglary. Do people think she knew her killer?
It's always reminded me of one of the Halloween films that bit.
Whoever was attempting to and eventually got in seemed to know when her boyfriend was out
I know I was thinking what burglar just tries the handle they must have thought it would be open?
I don't believe it was a burglary gone wrong. I believe the burglaries in the area were unrelated.
@@interstat2222 yeah I agree
I can't believe someone could have been so selfish to kill a young mum
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My heart broke for Karen’s partner her parents and especially her little girl Emily she had to grow up without her Mummy no child should experience that Xx
Same here. And some people on here actually think he did it 🤦♂️
OLI PRJ shows how stupid they are he loved her Xx
@@oliprj8676 it's still unsolved - so it's still plausible to some , a matter of elimination. The reconstruction doesn't cover the relationship between the two thoroughly or emotionally , one can only speculate as to what happened. Using the only events that happened around the time of the murder . It's possible the killer wasn't even spotted at all . Or there was something more insidious within the relationship between both of them . We've only got the husband's word for it that they were both happy for those six years . I'm assuming that they looked into people with mental health issues or drug dependency issues locally or at least eliminated some .
Did someone leave their phone on top of the telly while you were recording this, Redcard??
(Ha, only joking. Cheers as always for the upload.)
i got head phones on,,it all most melt my head the sound ,,but glad 2 watch it
THAT INTERFERENCE IS DRIVING ME CRAZY, THAT’S OLD SCHOOL FOR YA.
I did a little research and found out that Steve Wright (Suffolk Strangler) lived 10 mins away on the London Rd were the 2 lads came from
Yeah he wasn’t in London road for long (I worked a production of ‘London road’ in 2017 so got to know it quite well.
My home town Bath! I know the Choudhry family. ...His nephew was a friend of mine. The Rajpoot Restaurant was very well know, fantastic food!
Cow.
Were they ever caught?
I was talking to my friends father, back in the 80’s him and his mates would travel to England to commit robberies, mainly pharmacies but the odd bank or post office …..wild days. He wasnt a down and out either, he had his own business that’s still running today 🤯
That Intro music to crimewatch 👌🏾👌🏾🔥🔥😁😁
Sorry but the jeweller shouldn't have opened that door. He even said that he was wary of people coming to the house being a jeweller and asks his wife to watch his back...lol. He should have had a very secure front door given his occupation and asked who it was before just opening the door. What a numpty.
I’m always reticent to say, but so many times the victim puts him/herself in harms way.
I can't believe how many folks open the door on these videos. They then get kidnapped or robbed.
He said to the girls can you watch my back 😂 he deserved to get robbed with that strategy.
Before tv remotes! You had to trick or bribe others to change the friggin channel. And there wasnt many channels to choose from! lol!
How far back are you going? Remotes were available in the 1980s
In 1990's there were TV remotes Candy !!!!
In 94?
I used to use an old fishing rod.
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If only Karen had gone to her mothers that afternoon
If the killer targeted her specifically, he'd have unfortunately chose another time to strike again . If it was just a robbery gone wrong ( which is plausible) but unlikely . The killer might've just broken in and stolen and never returned again . Personally I think she was specifically targeted. Especially if the killer used and carried a knife .
@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 a few people have mentioned who they think the culprit is, and he is in prison now
@@markdavidson9100 napper ?
@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 I don’t think Napper went into that area. He was mainly in London. Don’t think he went into Suffolk.
@@Dave-ko2pr people think napper killed claire tiltman th-cam.com/video/YwmnhLr5T28/w-d-xo.html
The headless body was that of Adnan Abdul Hassan Al Sane a Kuwaiti banker who lived in London and was linked to a double shooting of an business rival 5 days earlier
thank you
Poor Karen Hales
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Apparently the Wednesday kits that got stolen ended up in the Magnet pub cellar on Parson Cross Sheffield.
A right muckhole of an area
The phone call at 28:05 is creepy!
I think the victim managed to stab the murderer back hence the reason why he was seen running clutching his stomach!
Interesting idea. Could be right. Although there probably would have a trail of blood.
Very good thinking! Something was clearly up with him. Maybe he burned his hand whilst setting Karen alight & was clutching his hand into his stomach ....? I wonder if anyone was treated for burns that night? I would've been asking local medics/hospitals that question. He looked scary as hell staring at the dog walker in the park!
@@AACE73 I agree. It's such a bizarre, and tragic, case.
I was only 4 when this was aired! Thankyou redcard
I was 11 months old.
I was 34
I was 62. God I miss my genitals
Does this matter?
Karen RIP really upsetting senseless murder . Pure madness. I hope this creep is arrested .
This episode was already on here for a few years but this is great quality.
Karen still unsolved - does anyone know why? Was the man in the Parka even connected?
It looks likely that he was based on him seen running about looking suspicious in the area identified by more than 1 person .
The man was seen in the vicinity and road at around the time of the murder . Acting agitated and suspicious, doesn't mean he was involved . But he needs to be eliminated. Nobody come forward as far as I know . So therefore , the connection or correlation is still palpable.
The Karen story is eerie af, I dunno how she had the balls to stay in there after that. I would’ve called my partner or parents to come home/over right away. Also I wish she went to her parents home that day instead of staying there. I also think the person was trying the door handle to scare her, maybe get her to open the front door to see who it was so they could come on in
He could've just knocked at the door . I'm sure that would've worked better . I think he was trying his luck . Hoping it was unlocked . An agenda with fatal consequences was more likely his clandestine reason . The killer was determined, tried twice . Two nights in a row.
@ HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 He was clearly on the rape but it went wrong so he stabbed her and burned the body to get rid of dna.
I would've called the police as soon as I saw that handle moving!
The Kent Kidnap is another one of my all time favourite reconstructions
futureisgosub the jewellers is still there and looks exactly the same
I guess you have a thing for heists!
Interstat who? Me?
@@rs-qt1qg I meant futureis...
His "don't hurt her she doesn't speak any english" is so crap and wooden it's glorious
I don't know why but the Karen Hales murder seems, to me, similar to the Julie Pacey case which happened about a year later and is also still unsolved. Also was that Thelma Barlow playing the mother in law in the robbery reconstruction?
The killers were both separate and different , Julie pacey's killer was stocky and older than the perpetrator of Karen's .if the reconstruction can be believed. I wouldn't rule out Robert Napper . Although it's 59 miles away from his flat . There's similar characteristics about her having a child with her and parks and chain walks surrounding her house . Also the house is oddly positioned with a large feld behind the housing area . Napper was a small time burglar , he had a distinctive stoop like this mans description. I believe he killed more women than the three officially. Jean Bradley, even Claire tiltman , Deborah Lindsey . Penny bell could be his victims regardless of the man charged for Claire's murde. His supposedly preferred targets were pretty young blondes . But , killers MO can always change .
A man was jailed for life in 2014 for the murder of Claire Tiltman. Such a sad story that both her parents died before justice was done. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Claire_Tiltman
@@rubyred7018 yeah Colin ash Smith . Who I'm convinced didn't do it . I might be wrong . But he was left handed , the wounds were predominantly from a right handed killer , the ferociousness and the time frame , ( incidentally napper was released a day or two from a custodian sentence) which would've made the police libel . Colin's other attacks were nothing compared to Claire's injuries . Two different killers in my mind .
Napper released earlier than he should've been allowed under a custodian sentence . If he murdered Claire tiltman within that time , the police are libel that's what I meant . Also a man was seen fitting nappers description at Greenhithe train station. Several witnesses too. Why did the police ignore this ? .
@@rubyred7018 There is a video that explains why it can't be colin ash smith.
nice too
I'm sure the tyre wize appeal resulted in BBC ending up in bother for showing picture of wrong person. It was the wrong mchale
Why the hell would anyone steal the Sheffield Wednesday shirts??
Sue said she might keep that one 33.00,that's stealing....book her Danno
@@Skip-sy2thI loved seeing her wearing it … really suited her.
I still think about this case. I always thought it was someone close to her like her husband but he was cleared. It seems unlikely it'd be a stranger if they came back to the same house twice AND set the body alight.
Or just a stalking psychopath
@@annamarielewis7078 lol lookin at her if it was a stalker he must be derranged, she wasnt much of a looker lol
@@olegenie1007 Hubby might have got sick of her and wanted someone slimmer, you never know. Did he find someone else soon after?
@@treasurehunteruk9718 i dont know mate, dont even know if it was solved, do you know if it was solved?
@@olegenie1007 Apparently not, like most of these from the eighties and nineties.
The Sheffield Wednesday result the night before that Sue alludes to was a 5-0 annihilation by an Eric Cantona-inspired Manchester United. United were closing in on the league and cup double.
In the kent kidnap,should they really have given the papergirls name and address ?
31:37 It's Rodney trotter!
He was the peckham pouncer!
Classic episode that one!
I think Karen's murder was committed by a wrongun.
12:38 Mistake by the police.
is there a interferance noise
Was the man made-up with clay from body parts found in Manchester and Staffordshire ever identified?
Yes. He was Adnan Abdul Hassan Al-Sane.
Was the murderer of Karen Hales ever caught and convicted?.....🤔🤔🤔
No still unsolved.
@@jamesseamge9216 Oh no, that's so sad, and right in front of her child as well, some sick people out there in this world
Police have said they have a prime suspect but have never had the evidence to charge him
@@ianbousfield5007 that's awful isn't it, still no real justice for her family, hope one day justice will prevail....
@@ianbousfield5007 Who do the police think it was
That Sheffield Wednesday appeal seemed odd, weren't they a fairly big team back then too, a same appeal these days would get laughed at with the money in the game
@gareth roblyn yes I know was more a observation than a question
They are happily celebrating 20 years of being outside the premier League
I remember this happening, very sad. Why oh why can they never get an Ipswich accent right?
well - was it my imagination or did her partner , Ruffles, have a slight australian twang?
yeah one sounded a bit Australian and one sounded sorta Welsh
Suffolk and Norfolk accents are notoriously difficult to replicate. Actors never quite seem to nail them.
@@chrisjohn4605The Singing Postman never had any difficulty.
Could Robert Napper have murderd Karen Hales?
Yes . Everything fits his MO . Young woman and child . 59 miles away from his flat in plumstead , only 2 hours away by train . Same stoop , his hair would look dark because his reddish hair would appear dark at night , flat footed , hands in pocket . 6 ft 2 tall , thousand yard stair . Impulsiveness.lots of green chain walks and parks in the housing area where she lived , My only quibble. He tried to enter her home the night previously. And killed the next night . This would mean he'd have to have been staying somewhere in the area , cheap lodgings ? Otherwise I can't forsee him going back and forth from south London . It's just not his style . He was probably behind Jean Bradley's murder and Claire tiltman , Deborah Lindsey. And many more . But yes . Robert Napper definitely comes to my mind now ..
If you pause the video at 9:55 and envisage a parting in his hair and no tash above his lip with a small variation to his eyes with freckles and gingerness . The resemblance is uncanny and chilling .
In the deal, Kent reconstruction I guarantee they were watching Mrs doubtfire in the cinema 😂😂😂😂
I thought it waynes world 2
What’s that efit? That man with the blonde hair and the black tash 🤷🏻♂️ if he isn’t found then it’s really time to give up
Lmao The acting of the asians in the last reconstruction was very wooden.. And lol at the perps saying 'bout time, been waiting bloody ages'.. Did they ever catch the guys?
Anyone know if the Cannock head was ever identified?
Lionel Richie
Is he "The Only One" with a resemblance, Oli? I bet you were up "All Night Long" thinking about that... ;-)
@@janettemohan7739 I thought about it once, twice, three times 😁
www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=990&termRef=Adnan%20Abdul%20Hameed%20Al%20Sane
Photofit Man.. His names Rodney Trotter also goes by the name of Dave..
And he’s a plonker!
i think Karen was killed by someone who she knew so she opened the door volunatrily to them and once inside things took a horrific turn and she was murdered in front of her daughter
Motive?
The door might've been momentarily or accidently open or unlocked . If she was cleaning the house, hoovering . It's possible her windows might've been open . He could've climbed through an open window . Or just knocked and struck . He had a knife . If Karen knew him , why did he try and enter via the door previously by turning the door handle clandestinely? He was determined to get into that place armed with a knife . One can only speculate. But I think this was a deliberate act . And she was specifically targeted.
40:04 Richard e grant
41:23 Can David St. Hubbins account for his whereabouts that night?
I've always thought it could have been the husband in the Karen Hales murder. Something didn't add up there.
I have thought the same thing myself.
The whole sequence of events doesn't make sense really.Sunday afternoon is a weird time to do a burglary when a lot of people are at home unless you know otherwise.
Ian Bousfield but was it a burglary? From what I gather, the only person Karen told about someone trying the door handle the night before was the husband . Convenient ? And setting fire to her body with her daughter in the room. Disgraceful. I wonder if the husband had another woman at the time.
I didn't want to say that but seeing that you've mentioned it._._._
It said this week on the 25th anniversary of karens death There's a 50 grand reward for information
26.20 Imagine walking your dog and finding a severed head
Imagine walking a severed head and finding a dog.
@@golgotha3938Imagine walking your latest Mistress and finding a dog’s severed head!
What i dont like about the Karen hales case is the two young locals walking past. Just so happenss to see te blue mack and cant recall the time because he was going to ask the time to the suspect. Then walks past and says not fire condensation. No chance. Also the noises at the front and back of the house could be down to two people. Then the stabbing and fire and the kid left beside mum unharmed while mum's on fire. Just seems like 2 people.
31:47 rodders
Plonker!
Hi Folks, What's the episode uploaded in last month or so, it's a murder of female, guy jumps out on cycle path and makes a funny face in front of a woman
The Maartje Tamboezer reconstruction is the one which comes to mind, it that it?
@@CatLowe50 Yeah think it is, do you know what episode...thanks
@@soulbrother61 No problem, May 1986
@@CatLowe50 thanks... got it
Sue fancies Chris Waddle 😂
Nuts.
I'm an Ipswich lad lived near Karen's house any way my sister got a house near there at the time they stole her stuff then put it back I'm pretty sure it was Roland brown he looks like the pic
Poor Karen must have been absolutely terrified! Awful fornher father to find her but thank goodness they turned uo whwn they did or little Emily may have been killed too wither burned alive or from smoke inhalation!
Does the Asian guy look like the same photofit as the one in Atek Hussains murder
Sue Cooke awful with short hair. Absolute babe with it long.
Why didn't she tell the police when the door handle went and get finger prints taken? If that did happen it must have been the murderer.
I've had a few drunks knock on my windows and try the door, it's not a crime and police wouldn't give a damn.
@@zephyrsky__ They would've more in 1990's !!!!
@alanberkeley7282 because maybe it didn't happen . Perhaps it's just something her husband might've stated and added specifically to the police to distance any blame on himself or explained to Karen it wasn't worth the hassle . Because obviously she wasn't around to explain this one . Curious ...
Did Nick have some health problem in this one? Looks a bit squirrel-cheeked...... 🐿️🤔
He was known to have problems with unstable wigs. This, despite experimenting with various different adhesives.
41:17 😂😂😂
I'm really loving these episodes. I can tell because when I get into something, I blow saliva bubbles which pop onto my laptop.
Weirdo
Too much information.
@Who wants to be a millionaire? Each to their own, I can't see the problem myself, and yes, I still do it now. It's a comfort thing. Nobody understands, but I'm fine with that.
What's the name of the gay man that was murdered? I can't work out how to spell it.
Basil Wycombe
There was 2 inches of snow on the ground the day Karen was murdered, but police found no footprints leading back to the house. She was clearly killed before her partner went to work....
If it was her partner how come the fire didn't kill the little girl?
@@MultiEve35 because it sounds like Karen’s body was set alight , but not the house itself . So enough to cause some smoke but not a huge fire. Not sure though - I’d have to rewatch it again
@@carina914 it could have been Robert Napper who killed Karen Hales
Defo the husband. Poor karen she looked like a really lovely girl.rip
Why do you think that?
Do you have any proof of that Claire?
Why is it 'defo' the husband?
Had a cast iron alibi.
@Who wants to be a millionaire? It was but if you know something different to the detectives (other than just a "must be the partner"), I suggest you contact Suffolk police.
00:00 I didn’t know Bros presented Crime watch.