Hey guys, I'd just like to thank you all for 10k views as well as 100 subscribers! It really means a lot to me that people are watching and enjoying my content! Now, as expected, we got a lot of varying opinions in the comments. Which is great! World would be pretty boring if everybody thought the same. I'm also catching a lot of heat for my Elden Ring placement. To be fair I did say that Elden Ring would be the most divisive. I stand by my list, but I will say this: If we're only counting Remembrance and Mandatory bosses (like Godskin Duo), then Elden Ring would rank higher than Bloodborne. But still below Sekiro and DS3. That is all. Happy holidays everyone and I'll see you on the next one!
I dont understand why people rank Elden Rings dungeon and field bosses but exclude Sekiro minibosses and BB Chalice bosses Seems to be just bias against ER since if count the lesser bosses in all games or exclude them in all the games ER goes up in rankings significantly
because the er mini bosses are done by way more players than the chalice dungeon things, i never finished the chalice dungeons and i have played bb 9 times now lol, the er mini bosses are done by way more people because they will get stuck on a hard boss and have to do the mini bosses to get more runes and level up, so it has way more impact on the experience
Cos most ER mini bosses r the same shit with some shitty added element to them. Sekiro mini bosses r trash as well cos they're surrounded by shitty gank squads.
Because elden rings dungeon and field bosses are in the main game around the world when you play so it's not really up to the player when it comes to wanting/not wanting to encounter them. Chalice Dungeons bosses are separated from the main game and it's more of an online thing (not to mention they're still reusing less than elden ring), and Sekiro's minibosses are minibosses, pretty self-explainatory.
@@anonisnoone6125 Sekiro's miniboses are pretty good, they serve their purpose well, rewarding players with prayer beads, and the schicimen warriors and headless are a unique type of minibosses with unique mechanics that not even main bosses copies
elden ring mini bosses are 99% straight ass. Sekiro's mini boss's are at least somewhat fun and interesting to fight since 60% of them are all unique encounters.
The non remembrance bosses would have lowered Elden ring’s overall boss quality. With sekiro it doesn’t matter as much since 90% of the bosses are incredible.
@@denberz711Wdym unique encounters? Half of them are literally the same samurais but with different name. The other half are dogwater Headless and Shichimen Warriors that will make your day a bit worse than usual
@nozerc Its like a child who gets abused by his father and is recollecting his childhood and telling his friends "Yea he hit me pretty hard with his belt but the basement was dripping with atmosphere"
100%. Most bb bosses are mid at best with the dlc carrying it for the most part. Also, ER shouldn't imo have non remembrances included if sekiro does get that treatment.
I’d say its lows are higher as are its highs, so I can’t agree. While bosses like Shadows of Yharnam are less notable than others, the same applies to Elden Ring’s Fortissax, Regal Ancestral Spirit, Rennala, Fire Giant, and maybe this is a stretch, but Astel too. I also feel like in Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne, although there are a lot of easy and underwhelming bosses, very few are in the lowest tiers besides Halflight, Gravetender Greatwolf, maybe Curserotted Greatwood, or Aldrich. In Bloodborne, there are Rom, Witches of Hemwick, and Micolash. It might also be a mindset issue, but since Elden Ring bosses so often use the same techniques to trick the player, it makes it so no boss is engaging at a higher level of play. You can't compare rolling back and forth while locked off against Mohg (formerly my favourite Elden Ring boss) for an hour to the experience I had in Dark Souls 3 doing challenges like SL1 Broken Straight Sword against Pontiff or Midir. The most fun aspect of Elden Ring's rememberance bosses to me, is the buildup on the first playthrough. They're usually separated by hours of exploration - at least until Crumbling Farum Azula - and when you make it to them the cinematic cutscenes and the distance you've travelled improve the experience much. On replays though, no boss in the game lives up to that hype for me except for maybe Placidussax because his attacks look cool.
@milesmonacothesequel2294 There are a bunch of bosses that live through that hype on replays for me, but you are right, it takes too long between fantastic fights in the base game
Bloodborne has a disproportionate amount of great bosses. Same with Sekiro. Those games have the least amount of bosses in the series, but some of the best. I'd say those two are the most quality over quantity games they've made.
Yes Ludwig, gherman and maria while top 10 bosses of the decade worthy, do not justify a spot higher than elden ring, and rom is objectively shittier than bed of chaos
Dogshit take lmao B-tier bosses: Cleric Beast, Bloodstarved Beast, Amelia, Shadows of Yarnham, Wet Nurse, Bloodletting Beast, Abhorrent Beast, Watchdog, Pthumerian Elder & Descendant, Queen Yarnham, and Moon Presence. A-tier bosses: Ebrietas & Logarius S-tier bosses: Father G & Gehrman And I aint even mentioned all C tier bosses
Using that language over a ranking I assume you’re buthurt that this guy rated it over ER, while the ratio of good to bad bosses in BB is comparable to ER, the greatest BB bosses are better
@@ah_helou2845The delusion is honestly crazy😂 those random ass bosses arent even close to B tier at all, most arent remotely interesting and have no backstory lmao. Elden Ring generally overall has better bosses and every single person knows tha
this is honestly a great take, it really doesnt matter the order, i feel like its just subjective at that point since each games bosses are pretty different
first time seeing so much love for Elden Ring’s bosses it’s actually crazy. I always see people just shitting on them without saying almost anything other than “badly designed” which doesn’t explain almost anything at all and isn’t even true
Yeah the community’s overall taste has changed dramatically & I’m glad it did because that’s what me and many others have been saying, the general quality of Elden Ring’s main bosses is undeniable, they are by far the best & most varied in any FromSoft game, you can’t argue against it, it also shows how the community has gotten used to ER’s bosses, now when a new FromSoft game has very hard bosses releases, people will reminisce & mention Elden Ring as this “fair & honest” game like they used to do it for previous Souls whenever Elden Ring is mentioned 2 years ago lol. You know it, I know it, it will happen. 😂😭
@@HeyTarnished It depends, I rather agree with the list overall. There's quite a few things I never liked with Elden ring since the start for bosses. They felt quite... pushed on some aspect. On one way your character is nearly as mobile as it would be in DS3, while on the other hand some bosses matches the speed and aggressiveness of bloodborn or even Sekiro. It introduced many aspects from other games that were overlooked in terms of gameplay when in boss fights, like jumping. Jumping in Sekiro mattered in boss fight. It had its use, it was built around, it was good. In Elden ring, it's not even implemented correctly in the code. You have skills that make you jump without triggering the jump tag, while others don't make you jump while triggering it (You can check those against Hoarah Loux shockwaves, they have a specific tag on their hitbox that will determine that they are jumpable, it's not a question of hitbox as it covers the whole area). And that's the same for a lot of things. The tools offered to the player are plenty, but a lot felt not maching with the gameplay of the bosses, which usually give this feeling of "they're relentless" or even "spamy" among all things. And the deflecting tear in the DLC confirmed that feeling to me, as a lot of bosses felt funnier to me while using it. That's of course a matter of taste, and it doesn't makes those fights bad, they're overall really good. And the lore around them is amazing as well, even if I felt it was poorly built upon for quite a lot of boss in the DLC, which sometime felt to me a bit cheap on the edges, even for some of them that are my favorite in the whole game (Like Midra, love the guy, the bits of lore we get are amazing, but that's it, it's just tiny bits. Same for Romina, Rellana and even Mesmer even if he has a lot more that the others. But for the major figure of the DLC I felt disappointed). There's the reuse bosses also, I never felt that they were not right for a good part of them, but man some are just tiring because they're not really fun, thought everywhere. I mean, those dragons and drakes, fuck those. Same for fallingstar beast. But for some of those they felt cheap, like second Godrick but not Godrick, first Godfrey but not Godfrey, or second Mogh but not Mogh. And yeah, duo fights are terrible in this game imo. As a game, overall, it's one of my favorite. It's huge, immersive, extremely wonderful to explore. But yeah, to each his own, still like the game, thought not as much for the bosses as Sekiro or DS3, or even bloodborn even if I didn't played as much of it as the others souls.
Great vid. I feel like ppl intentionally love to hate Elden Ring and its bosses just because its a modern game. I get it, there are many repeated bosses, but what else do you expect from such a large open world game. Elden Ring is definitely top 2 for me and you cant deny how good some of the main bosses are even if your biased.
As others have said, u have to judge ER on remembrance/main bosses alone if youre doing that for Sekiro. Makes the quality much more consistent. Margit/Morgott, Maliketh, Radagon, Radahn, Rellana, Messmer, Midra, Godfrey, Bayle, Placidusax, Rykard, and even Godrick. Malenia and Promised Consort are ridiculously difficult and imo a bit overkill. That lineup is insane and beats the best any other game offers, including DS3
Doesn’t beat dark souls 3. Elden ring has some bad boss fights that aren’t easy god skin duo and fire giant. Bosses in ds3 that you can consider bad will never you ,ore than 3 tries. Elden ring consistently with its bosses are bad and all the have insanely long combos that you never get to use the cool ash of wars.
@ sounds like a skill issue. Using ashes of war is a privilege and not at all a requirement to fight any boss. Godskin Duo is not a good fight but you can still spam ash of war and that will trivialize the fight. Fire giant is straight up easy, his attacks are so telegraphed if you’re having trouble with him then i dont know what to say.
@@aidanlong239 While I agree with you the Elden Ring roster being sick, in DS3 you have Abyss Watchers, Pontiff, Dancer, Dragonslayer Armor, Champ Gundyr, Lorian, Soul of Cinder, Friede, Demon prince, Midir, Gael and the Nameless King. An insane boss roster.
@@dommelow2676Abyss watchers back stab merchant you only need to know how to punish 1 move and the fight is done after 3 backstabs, Pontiff is pretty good but doesn't have anything that crazy about him besides the clone which even at lvl1 you can just spawn kill, Dancer does one attack every two minutes in the first phase and by the time she gets to second phase she should be almost dead even at lvl1, Dragon armor is pretty good but just slightly better than a crucible knight at most, Midir while insanely cool has a brain dead easy moveset, Champion Gundyr is genuinely good got nothing to say except low hp and dmg, Friede is again a backstab merchant type boss where you don't need to engage with 90% of her moveset if you want to have an easy time, Gael is peak but still falls short of the top ER bosses imo, Lorian is very mid has one braindead easy combo with the teleport being the only mix up also Radagon's teleport is way better, Soul of Cinder curved sword phase has almost no openings sorcerer phase is way too easy and longsword phase has the worst delays possible as for second phase I think it's very easy and doesn't have anything special to offer the lightning is pretty cool though. Did I cover everything? Don't get me wrong I still love the game I just had to be a bit critical since we are comparing it with ER. Edit: Nameless king first phase is pretty meh second phase very good but still nothing better than top ER bosses.
@@jetgaming5269 sorry but this is just wrong imo, DS3 has really one of the best boss lineups in the series (top 3 atleast) but saying that ERs bad bosses are worse because they take you more tries is just not it if a boss is bad then its bad no matter how many tries it may take one to beat. just my opinion tho
Even as a Bloodborne glazer (Personal #2) I can understand others putting it lower, but there's no dispute over DS3 not being #1 can't even fathom comments trying to deny it.
Lets just take it for a moment, half of the ds3 bosses are mid while the other half are good, but ds3 doesn't have many bosses. Half of ds3 is straight up trash Like take crystal sage, old demon king, greatwood, deacons, aldritch, yhrom, ancient wyvern greatwolf etc etc. Iudex gundyr and vordt are good only the first timeThe good bosses in ds3 are gael friede midir demon prince nameless king SoC gundyr pontiff abyss watchers and lorian and lothric. I agree these bosses are really good, but elden ring has twice as many bosses comparable to these bosses, margit godrick morgott radahn maliketh godfrey radagon malenia mohg rellana midra pcr romina messmer bayle placidusax etc etc.
@@creeperYT9824I disagree on two fronts I. Quality ≠ Quantity. Elden Ring has some great bosses but it also has some real stinkers, and they’re split roughly 50/50. II. Of the stinkers, DS3’s are more memorable. Both games have some buns bosses but I remembered Wolnir or Greatwood a hell of a lot more than I did Astel or Regal Ancestor (and I say this rather confidently because it took me like 3 minutes to come up with those two fights). obviously I’m not counting dungeon/mini bosses but truthfully if I did it wouldn’t change my opinion much.
@@DannyDevitoOfficial in my opinion elden ring ahss wayy more good bosses than ds3's good bosses, and most of the bad bosses you can skip, in ds3 there are many bad bosses like greatwood wolnir deacons crystal sage greatwolf gravetender ocerious halfight ancient wyvern yhorm aldritch, and a lot of them you cant skip, and msot of elden ring bosses have wayyy more variety than ds3 bosses like just compare margit and iudex gundyr
@ It's your opinion, so that's great. However, when a game wins 435 Goty Awards [the most in history] and the majority of people who play it refer to it as the goat, we don't label it overrated. and elden ring plays a huge role in making all from soft games popular
No it's not. Like he said, elden rings bosses are way too fast for the dark souls gameplay elden ring decided to rip from Dark Souls. Bloodbornes bosses are suited for the speed of the combat and much more unique. Less is more, quality>quantity, etc.
Personal ranking: If minibosses in Sekiro and ER and chalice bosses in BB are included: ER < DeS < DS2 < DS1 < BB < Sekiro < DS3 If only main story bosses are included (how it should be measured imo): DeS < Ds2 < Ds1 < BB < Ds3 < Sekiro < Elden Ring
@@chernandez212331 nah I honestly think some minibosses in ER are better than 90% of ds1 and 2 bosses and on the same level as even the better ds3 and bb ones. It‘s just the 150 repeated ass bosses that drag the game down
That what im saying demon souls bosses are ALL gimmick fights and only challenging ones are penetrator and old king allant. Im sick of hearing how “clunky” ds2 is when demon souls and ds1 are much slower. This list is ass
@skinless5136 In the video, he states that he took all good and bad bosses into account when Ranking the games. The worst bosses in DS1 and 2 are worse than the worst bosses in Bloodborne, and the best bosses in Bloodbourne are better than the best bosses is DS1 and 2. Simple as that. Watch the video.
If we only go by main story bosses, ER clears by a MILE. Maybe except sekiro idk cus i havent played. Maybe DS3 is up there in the top 3, but BB over ER? Unreal
Well, they had to increase bosses aggressivity in Elden Ring. Not only to give a challenge for veteran players (which this game was made for, not for casuals even though they included tools to help them) but also so they can keep up the player's pace. I need not remind you how much more mobile the player is in Elden Ring compared to any other Soulsborne, Bloodborne included AND how very generous stamina management is too. So yeah, it was the logical next step. You don't wait for an opportunity in Elden Ring : you create it. You ain't beating Malenia, blade of Miquella by waiting for your turn. And before you ask, I beat the game without using summons, spirits or ash of war, just me and my tusty longsword on my very first playthrough. So long as you pay attention to what the game is trying to teach you, it's very manageable. The only boss I struggled against and needed more than a hundred try is Malenia, and I felt very good finally beating her !
It is the best game ever has maybe 5 bad bosses it’s the most enjoyable game by far combat is much better than Elden ring and other souls games but I still do love all the other souls games too
The main reason why I bought a PS4 and the only game for me to play on it which is Bloodborne. Played it for a few hours and it's definitely not as good as everyone keeps on shouting on those who never played it. I was just so tired of not having any arguments since I like literally never played it because of stupid exclusivity. Now that I'm playing it, I'm even more disappointed that this is the game that had this insane cult following.
Putting Demon Souls above DS2 is a crime. Yes, DS2 has a Quantity problem and that's why there are a lot of bad bosses. However, there are still enough good bosses in the game and I can even claim that these bosses are better than the DS1 bosses. I always have Sir Alonne>Artorias, Fume Knight>Manus, Ivory King>Kalameet. Demon Souls is clearly the souls game with the weakest and worst bosses. So it's out of the question. For this reason, I will compare DS1 and DS2. Good bosses in DS1: Bell Gargoyles, Gaping Dragon, Quelaag, Ornstein and Smough, Sif, Nito, Four Kings, Sanctuary Guardian, Artorias, Manus, Kalameet The remaining bosses, although they are beautiful in terms of design and design (Gwyn, Priscilla etc.), are not "good" bosses. At best they are "Okey/Fine" bosses or really "bad" bosses. Good bosses in DS2: Pursuer, Ruin Sentinels, Executioners Chariot, Smelter Demon, Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Elena, Sinh, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne, Aava, Ivory King The remaining bosses, although interesting in design and idea (Flexile Sentry/Skeleton Lords, etc.), are not "good bosses" or are just bad. These "good bosses" that I listed from both games are bosses that are accepted in the general souls community. As you all see, DS2 has just as many good bosses as DS1. The problem is that there are many more "bad bosses" in DS2 than in DS1. This makes the game the weakest of the Dark Souls trilogy in terms of boss quality. However, DS2 bosses definitely cannot be pushed under Demon Souls bosses. This would be a disservice to the good bosses in DS2. This would be very unfair when some of them are already better than the bosses in DS1.
@@CelatraI absolutely love flexile sentry. I think it’s great. Don’t get why it’s always brought up as an example of one of the bad ones by DS2 haters.
@@Celatra I agree with all of them except Rotten and Lost Sinner. But I put the ones that are accepted by the general community in the list. Unfortunately, these bosses are not considered good enough.
Ds1s boss quality is worse than ds2 and I’m tired of people acting like it’s not. Although it might have more bad bosses due to more bosses overall it at least has multiple good bosses rather than ds1s 1 good boss (artorias)
I think its cool seeing different opinions on these games and comparing to my own. I was honestly really surprised to see Dark Souls 2 at the bottom, but you did say it was your last Souls Game. It was my second, after Dark Souls 3, so maybe I see it in a more positive light, but I would put it above Demons and Dark Souls 1. Also, I LOVE Dark Souls 3, and I would rank it higher than Sekiro as a game and it would mostly be just because, I like Dark Souls, but in terms of boss quality I would put Sekiro at the top.
My personal list (not PS exclusives :( ) 1.Elden Ring 2.Sekiro 3.Ds3 4.Tie-(DS1-DS2) The reason why I prefer ER over Sekiro and DS3 is because I find a lot of fun on the learning process; I enjoy to be encouraged to try new things, I enjoy being rewarded with new windows if I use more than the traditional window, I love that the better I get at the game, the bosses, which at first couldn´t imagine to put an R1, have plenty of changes to put even an R2, and being able to attack on the middle of long combos. I know they are more controversial but I dont really care, I never had more fun with any other Soulsborne boss design overall.
Ah yes. The Nostalgia Boner is great with this one. Also wtf is the Bloodbourne Rating?? Bloodbourne has few good bosses. Elden rings best bosses are better than the rest of Souls. As someone who has played through DemonSouls, DS1-3, Bloodbourne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring, I can confidently say that Elden Ring, while having the most filler bosses (it is an open world game after all) has the best remembrance/soul bosses. Consort Radahn, Maliketh, Melania, Midra, Mohg, Bayle, Fortisaxx, and Messmer are all phenomenal, and have interesting lore behind them. Overall, from my personal experience, I’d say 1. Elden Ring - Newest Installment. Fromsoft wouldn’t know what they were doing if they made it worse than previous titles. I love the older souls games too, but some people need to look past the nostalgia and realize how good EldenRing is. It took DS3’s playability and amped it through the roof. Midir was the staple for ER Dragons, and that’s great. Midir was a good boss, not difficult, but a good base for dragon fights onward. But Bayle is unarguably better in my opinion. Messmer and Maliketh were also amazing. The game hands down had the best endings. Not even a contest. 2. DS1 - Loved all of the bosses in this game. Save the Bed of Chaos, there was not a singular Boss I disliked. Manus was such a good finish for the DLC, Artorias was a phenomenal fight, and I actually like Kalameet. His lore was interesting and I enjoyed his fight. 3. Sekiro, Shadows Die Twice - The Get Gud simulator. I loved this game personally. It was very fun and its bosses were memorable. Isshin, Demon of Hatred, Lady Butterfly. The combat took some getting used to for me, but once I got it down it was one of my favorite Fromsoft Games to date. The Lore is amazing too. 4. DS3 - Good. Very Good Game. Memorable bosses like Gael, Friede, Midir, and Nameless King. Very overrated however. The Fromsoft Community treats it like some Golden Child Game when it honestly isn’t. It’s good, not saying it’s bad by any means, but it truly pales in comparison to Elden Ring. It’s a newer installment so it’s gonna be higher than most, but when comparing it to Elden Ring and DS1, it feels lackluster to me. 5. DS II - This game overall was a mix for me. I loved the bosses, and the lore of everything abyss wise is happening because Manus’ depowered shards are still rampaging around. Loved the Fume Knight, The Pursuer, and I have some funny memories with the Royal Rat Authority. However it’s just the runbacks that really ruin it for me. It’s a good game overall though. I do enjoy it and its bosses. 6. Bloodbourne - The Ambience and theme of the game is phenomenal. I will give it that. However the bosses were very lackluster. The same thing really over and over again. I will admit, Orphan was a Phenomenal step up in bosses. It was a challenge, with actual interesting lore. Aside from him and Gherman though, I don’t find any of the bosses to be that interesting. This is BOSS WISE, not game wise as a whole, as well as it being my opinion entirely.
I will die om the hill that ornstien.and smough is not a good duo fight, the overall core gameplay loop of rhe fight is horrendous. GinoMachino, probably one of the most recognized challenge runners oit there actually delved into why its a bad fight in one of his videos
As someone who's played every game, i'll say this: the top 4 fight for each other's spots every time i log on and play each of them. Lady maria, isshin, consort radahn, and gael are all very very well made fights to me, and i love them all for different reasons. Isshin feels like youre defeating a legend, gael feels like youre putting a friend's soul at rest, lady maria feels like youre fighting what you could become, and radahn goes from a difficult foe to what becomes insurmountable odds. All unique, all fantastic, and all top, top tier for me.
I think your elden ring ranking is completely awful, I genuinely do believe elden ring has the best quality of bosses. Godfrey, Maliketh, Messmer, Godrick, Radagon, Malenia, Radahn ( both of them ) , The frenzied flame, Astel, Margit, Mohg, Rykard, The champion fight in the dlc. I think elden rings boss qualify for the story line and dlc bosses is AMAZING. I do believe it’s #1
@Blorxian-hater The actually good ones are, yes, they are spectacular, but other bosses are complete horse shit. Even main bosses like the fire giant, Godskin Duo, Sir Gideon Ofnir, and in my opinion, Rennala. The DLC also has a ton of main boss stinkers. Like Jori, Gaius, Scadutree avatar, and the Golden hippo. These are just bosses that either have to be killed or block the main content. There are so many other stinkers.
@ It’s true that Elden ring isn’t the best boss wise, but I still think the proportion of great memorable bosses higher than bloodborne, despite having more stinkers because there are more bosses overall. And I don’t think sir Gideon is a bad boss, he’s supposed to be easy, a little weak betraying shithead that you stomp 3 minutes before reaching Godfrey which is an amazing penultimate boss
@Blorxian-hater It definitely has a higher number of great bosses overall, but that's just because it has many more bosses. The actual good to bad boss ratio for Elden ring is far worse than Bloodborne. Gideon is still just a crappy boss. Not only is he an NPC boss (which is already pretty lazy), but nothing about him is actually unique. Non of his spells are unique to him and all he does is spam. In my experience, the fight is also inconsistent. I either kill him in a few seconds (I literally oneshot him on my most recent build) or he bullies the shit out of me. Thank God an actually good boss is right after him. Actually, I just realised that Elden ring does that a lot. Puts a terrible boss right before a great boss. Gideon before Godfrey Senessax before Bayle Jori before Midra Golden hippo before Messmer Red wolf before Rennala (still hate her) Godskin Duo before Maliketh Loretta before Malenia Common cause before Radahn (kinda) Either that, or some shitty enemy right before a great boss.
Elden ring bosses give plenty of opportunity to attack what do you want them to do just pause you have to learn wen and how to slip attacks and healing in
@@kdecker65it is though. Replaying ds3 ive noticed that the fights simply are over to quickly since the bosses give to many attack windows. ER fixed this and it‘s so much more fun however I will agree sometimes it‘s a bit too much downtime (pcr)
@@TimothyStrauß-x2j i agree to an extent, some Ds3 bosses really needed more hp... It is funny though the whole game having low hp bosses and then i got to gael and i almost shit myself seeing his hp.
You’d think someone ranking souls games would understand the idea of patience, perseverance and learning attack windows I’ll admit Elden Ring does have a few bosses with very few attack windows, Rellana and Promised Consort Radahn being the best examples of such, but the majority of bosses have clear attack/heal windows
I might get why Sekiro and DS3 are higher than Elden Ring but Bloodborne?? THE WORST thing about bloodborne IS the bosses quality 😂 The DLC carries it hard and STILL I could name 10 bosses in Elden Ring that are better than the best boss in BloodBorne.
I agree on DS3 taking the crown. When your fighting abyss watchers - this boss and nearly every fight after is a banger. I do not agree on Sekiro and Elden Ring and would probably switch their ranks. Elden Ring has a lot of Bosses like you said „are just there“. But in absolut numbers also the most enjoyable and banger Bosses. Nearly every rememberence boss is a banger. Sekiro has a lot annoying bosses to me. maybe just personal preference. Appreciate the list and can totally understand why you ranked it like this. 🙂 Keep it up!
Elden ring has a lot of stinker/reused bosses. However, the take of saying some of the fights are too fast paced is a get good moment. It is home to the best bosses in the series by far.
It's weird. Most of the bosses are mid, but the good bosses are the best in the series by a longshot. I feel like Elden Rings' boss quality could be the best or one of the worst, depending on what way you put it.
Bloodborne over Elden Ring? DS3 over Sekiro? Yeah this list is a joke. Sekiro has the kost consistent boss fights. You have to literally go through half of the base game in DS3 to reach the first actually difficult and good boss (Pontiff). DS3s roster is carried by the dlcs. 2nd place for DS3 would've been fine.
He said it was interchangeable. Bloodborne over Elden Ring makes sense. Just think about the sheer number of bad or mid bosses. DS3 in my opinion has more fun bosses than Sekiro. Sekiro just has better combat. Outside of the DLC, I really like Pontiff Sulyvahn, the Abyss watchers, the Dragon Slayer armour, champion Gundyr, the nameless king, twin princes and the Soul of Cinder. I like more bosses in DS3 than Elden ring, despite Elden ring having around 200 more bossfights than it.
Just the usual DS3 glaze. It's like not speaking is better than speaking too much. DS3 did away with having only a few quality bosses and everyone thinks it's a masterpiece. I personally prefer having my own idea of what I want to fight among a vast array of enemies than fooling myself that these only few sets of bosses are far better than the game with the most quality and quantity ones. Elden Ring Vs Sekiro, I don't really care because both are just complete masterpiece. DS3 on the other hand is also quite good but it's nowhere near as good as everyone is saying it to be. It has almost the exact cult following like Bloodborne.
@MclovinLovesYou Elden ring has soooooo many good bosses tho. Margit, mohg, radahn, rykard, godrick, radagon, tree sentinel, placidusax, fortissax, Malikith, Godfrey spirit, Horah loux, Loretta, mesmer, rellana, putrescent knight, midra. Probably some I forgot.
@SaintsFan09-z3s And that's pretty much all of them. Tree sentinel, fortisaax, and Loretta are mid at best. They're all just reskins. Just think about it. Those are the only good bosses you could think of. Thats 18 bosses, including DLC, out of the 230 bosses in Elden ring.
@@SaintsFan09-z3s Yes Elden Ring has a lot of amazing fights but there are a few stinkers here and there. In sekiro, the only bad boss i can think about is the blazing bull and guardian ape duo. That's pretty much it.
@@Budd631tbh that’s not crazy to say in terms of highest highs bb obviously blows ds2 out of the park but in terms of boss quality in general ds2 and bb aren’t that far off bb is ahead only by a little bit alot of bb bosses are terrible 😭
@@louiemeister9646they're not lmao, alot of DS1 bosses are 10x worse than anything DS2 has to offer, I'd rather fight anything in DS2 than bed of chaos or seathe. Plus it has more good bosses like Sir alonne, fume knight, the pursuer, darklurker, velsdatt, glass knight, ivory king, Aava, Sinh and Smelter demon.
@@TheLastGame666 The only good boss in ds2's base game is darklurker. Velsdatt has literally 2 moves, glass knight also has 2 moves and is carried by the pvp gimmick something that has nothing to do with the boss's actual moveset, and the pursuer is brought down by his trash hitboxes and is way too easy. Also listing bed of chaos and seathe while ignoring the actual good bosses in the game is just blatantly disingenious, might as well not even comment at that point. Ignoring orenstein and smough (ds2 literall reuses orenstein 1 for 1 lol), queelag, gwyn, twin gargoyles (a boss that ds2 reuses with like 10 more gargoyles and accumulates into the worst fight in the game), artorias, manus, kalameet is incredible. Aava is way too basic for a dlc boss, she has barely any moves and is later reused into the worst gank fight in the series with easily the worst runback they've ever made. Ivory king is a C tier boss because of how reptitive the first phase is and even phase 2 has some massive hitbox problems especially on his grab. Sir alonne and fume knigth are good I'll give you that.
And they will use 'unpredictable' and 'jank' when they can't understand Elden Ring bosses moveset because every bosses before Elden Ring bosses existed was just swipe attacks, one stomp, two stomp or a tail sweep and they would call that fair and diverse moveset. 😂
@@DannyDevitoOfficial just swipe attacks, one stomp, two stomp or a tail sweep ≠ quality ass well. If a boss fight is complex in a game supposed to feel rewarding for for learning it. Then that in fact makes "complexity" as biggest part of boss quality. The others will be music , atmosphere and lore.
I haven't played BB or Sekrio yet, but I do agree with this list. I do think Elden Ring has the best bosses in the series, but it also has a high density of bosses that suck/are just there. Almost every boss in DS3 is incredible and many of them rank highly in my eyes. Out of sheer consistent quality, DS3 deserves the win.
Bloodborne doesn't deserve to be that high, It's extremely carried by the DLC, and even the DLC bosses aren't on the level of the best we've seen. Elden Ring should be either second or first, not only do you have the highest amount of peak bosses, but alot of these bosses provide alot more to a fight in terms of complexity and mechanics, even some of the mini-bosses in this game are top tier like the death knights and black knife assassins. Dark souls 1 should go back all the way down to the bottom with Demon's souls, It has the lowest lows like bed of chaos and centipede demon, Dark souls 2 never had worse bosses in that regard, and atleast some of it's bosses are unique and complex.
Great list, I agree with almost anything. I just would've swapt BB and ER. DLC BB bosses are phenomenal, but I dislike a lot of the base game ones. There are some great one yes, but although the issue with the over-aggressivness of ER bosses is definitively true, for me it is still more enjoyable than the majority of (in my opinion) annoying or boring bosses of BB base game😬
Dark Souls 2 has no outstanding bosses?? Ruin Sentinels? Smelter Demon, Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Elana, Sinh, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne? I get that it has a lot of mediocre ones, but every single one of those is superior to every fight in the base game of Dark Souls 1.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS people will literally take any chance they get to shit on ds2 bosses for NO REASON ds2 has better bosses than ds1 and DeS and people refuse to see the vision because big youtubers have told them to hate ds2 because "durr adp bad durr lifegem bad durr prowling magus and Lud & Zallen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when in all actuality ds2 was the first turning point where bosses went from "big hitbox that can sometimes hit back" to "actual engaging interaction where you need to manage your stamina and THINK when you play the video game" ds2 haters are so blinded i swear on my LIFE
@@taxevasion4736 I get you wanna defend DS2 because it does get too much hate, but mentioning DS2 DLC bosses and excluding DS1's DLC bosses is just not a sincere argument.
Bloodborne had repeats & so many trash chalice dungeon bosses but he didn’t mention them, we should be strictly talking about the main bosses, “Remembrance bosses”, which are of a way higher quality than in Bloodborne, I don’t think you can argue that unless if you just don’t like how ER bosses function which is plain subjectivity.
@@jamesbell1186 Yeah true, people just don’t seem to get that, even enemy variety in Bloodborne DLC is extremely weak, vast majority of the enemies there are from base game lol, people tend to forget about this stuff & proceed to laser focus on Elden Ring’s “negatives.”
@@HeyTarnished Some Elden Ring criticisms are so funny to me. The base game got a lot of flak for having too many mini dungeons that were underdeveloped, so then they made fewer in the DLC and fleshed them out more and people complained there wasn't enough to do in the overworld. There's no winning.
@@jamesbell1186 So true! It’s like they don’t know what they want at times, even though what the asked for in base game was much more complex & comprehensive caves designs, in DLC they did that in flying colors with its caves & the new Forges but very few seem to talk about them sadly, they are such a huge upgrade from base game that people seem to take for granted & some TH-camrs did go as far as saying the Forges not having a recycled mini boss at the end made it less memorable & interesting, and I’m like “WHAT THE HECK?!” How? Just how? This is one of their main complaints in base game how there were a lot of repeats there lol. It’s insanity! 🥺
My top 3 would be 3 - ds3 2 - sekiro 1 - elden ring Reason being, DS3 has a lot of mid bosses up until Pontiff Sulyvahn. Sekiro is the most well rounded with a few bad ones like the ape gank. Elden ring gotta be first since it has the most cinematic and engaging bosses we've seen so far
Elden ring’s bosses despite being “cool” can never reach the levels of ds3. They can be cinematic sure but they are no where near the level of engagement of Ds3. In ds3 you really dance with the bosses, it is a feeling that is merely replicated in Elden ring.
@sarpgozen5349 no way, I think elden ring's combat is ds3 done better, sincr it's the same combat with a few major improvements, same for the main bosses
@@sarpgozen5349maybe try playing Elden ring again, because it seems like you never developed your skills or tried to get better, instead believing it to be ds3 dlc 3
@@sarpgozen5349the dance like feeling is 10x better in ER due to faster more complex combat and in general more player expression. The only bosses in ds3 with a „dance like“ feeling to them are pontiff, champ gundyr, sister friede and gael
2 year’s and people still play it like it’s ds3 when will they learn to actually play elden ring like elden ring also you should’ve only counted remembeance bosses seems fair right?
@DamianSamson-t8ryea it’s really quite sad, especially people who pride themselves on beating these games because of they’re “difficulty” and as soon as they begin to actually get difficult they start to hate on it??
@@skinless5136I think it’s an ego problem because they say they have beaten a hard game and think I should never struggle with anything else again. for example I have beaten manus so now malenia is a piece of cake like wtf
When you’re counting games that have a billion bosses like Elden Ring, it’s better to focus your attention on the bigger bosses The Remembrance Bosses, since bringing every little overworld boss into it will lead to an annoying discussion So counting only Remembrance Bosses, Elden Ring kicks Bloodborne and spits on its barely conscious body Bloodborne has some of the most mid bosses in the series, that make up the majority of its base game bosses
ER bosses were just vfx spam and unbalanced messes. ER is one of the best but it isn't this glaze worthy. Most bosses in the game are just cheap and not fun to play or have some gimmick to make them hard. The godlike perspective of the bosses were taken too far and didn't feel like an actual dance like bosses of other games. It was just wait till you could see what tf was happening, do a jumping attack, sprint back out and let them look like a movie until you can jump attack again.
Saying bloodborne has mid bosses that make up the majority of the base game bosses while ignoring the fact that elden ring's open world bosses...make up the majority of ITS base game bosses is the most blatant hypocrite logic I've seen in this comment section. "No your honor ignore the countless dogshit fights in the base game for my favorite game because im biased".
@@inoodlesi4459this take barley correlates with Elden ring but more with Bloodborne ngl, there’s barely any gimmicks, that’s more of a bb thing, and the vfx spam is clearly referencing consort radahn and nothing else
@@Sephirothkingdom782he already mad his reason why u can’t count most of the Elden ring bosses, there’s just too much so u have to aim for the special ones
My ranking: I haven’t played ds2 or demons souls so I won’t rank them Bloodborne: I love bloodborne but the bosses aren’t all that hard to understand and the gun parry system is broken. It completely trivializes gehrman, lady maria, and bsb. If you’re good it also trivializes logarius and orphan. These are decent bosses but nothing special. The standouts are ludwig and orphan. Ds1: ds1 is decent until o&s but falls off until the dlc. Gwyn sucks. The dlc is peak tho. Kalameet, manus, and artorias are all goated Sekiro: all the main bosses are peak except the ape duo. Bosses can be a bit samey mid game tho Elden ring: going by remembrances 80% of the base game bosses are good mechanically. The main dlc bosses are all great and I love rellana and messmer in particular Ds3: great bosses front to back tbh. Game rarely misses
If you're waiting too long to get hits in then it is a skill issue. The bosses in Elden Ring are designed to have gaps inside of their combos. You're fundamentally playing the game wrong.
Some are. Others are plagued by incredibly short gaps suitable only for very fast weapons or giving in to RNG and just hoping that the boss won't start a new combo as you're hitting it
@StrengthGamerOfficial There is no RNG in ER. The boss's moves are determined by positioning. It's another level of skill expression that a lot of players don't bother learning. Some bosses can even be cheesed by baiting the same attack over and over again. Blaming RNG is a scrub's mentality.
You're correct but that doesn't disprove my point. Yes positioning matters in Elden Ring as it does in all FromSoft games. Yes bosses can be baited for certain moves that are easier to counter (eg Morgott's jump attacks). But that doesn't mean that the overarching problem of bosses being too aggressive and leaving too little time between combos doesn't exist. It absolutely does and all you need to do to realize it is go back and play previous souls games, where the balance was better. But if you're going to be disrespectful then there's no further point in arguing with you pal. See ya
@@StrengthGamerOfficial "Being too aggressive" is a subjective thing and you can have whatever opinion you want. But if you're waiting 30 secs at a time then you're playing it wrong. Previous bosses were simpler and easier. That doesn't mean they were "more balanced". ER bosses are very balanced given the fact that you can consistently punish pretty much anything in their arsenals. If you don't want to spend the time it takes to learn a boss's moveset then that's fine, but don't complain that they're unfair just because you haven't learned their movesets. I have not been disrespectful at any point in this conversation. A scrub's mentality is to blame other factors than themselves when their mistakes lead to them losing. That is the difference between a bad player and a scrub. That is not an insult, that is a fact. If you consider that disrespectful then perhaps it is time for some self-reflection.
Sorry but i just cant stand beast fights. I cant read any of the movesets of any bb beast boss, it just feels janky and extremely random most of the time. Might just be a skill issue but still I prefer to fight humanoid bosses all day. My ranking would be kinda like demons souls, ds2, bb, ds1, er, ds3, sekiro (bottom to top)
Maybe it is a skill issue cuz i tried bb and all beast fights were a joke. It is quite janky i can admit to that. I just don’t get how ppl find bb to have the best bosses in the series
@@Moonlight40471yeah thats what i mean. The bosses aren’t particularly hard or difficult to beat, but they just feel absolutely random and for most beasts i dont see any patterns in their attacks
I've always preferred beast bosses but I can see why most people don't like them, this is also cause Bloodborne ironically has the worst beast bosses by far, turning them into attack spamming, nigh unreadable, camera breaking messes. Demon Prince is still the best beast (and duo) boss
Funny how I have the complete opposite situation right now. The beast boss fights feel so easy because they literally the same movesets. They either delay stomps, delay swipes, instant stomp, or a sudden jump with a bit of delay on landing. I find it so ridiculous that I've never had to memorize movesets because that's literally the best part of fighting bosses in FromSoftware games
Sekiro is leagues above DS3 and it's not close. DS3 is just spam roll to win, in Sekiro you actually have to learn the game and you can't say spam block because that doesn't work.
@Hostefar Thing is I've played the game and no it doesn't. Spamming block doesn't fill up enemy posture since it's not a deflect and it only fills up your posture bar which leads to you getting staggered and then subsequently killed.
@@Leon.K69you can rapidly tap L1 to deflect and you’re fine. Then back off and hold L1 for 2 seconds and your bar resets. It’s really not as complicated as people make it. It’s actually beauty in simplicity. Everyone is playing the same game. ER it’s impossible to gauge bc everyone’s build is mostly different.
@@Leon.K69A similar thing can be said for Ds3. If you spam roll, your going to get caught up in a combo. A lot of ds3's bosses are designed to get you to spam roll so you end up taking damage. Boot up the game and try spam dodging Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, Pontiff Sulyvahn, Twin Princes, Dancer, Champion Gundyr, Iudex Gundyr, Abyss Watchers, Midir, Friede, Gael, and the armor guy that I can't remember the name of for some reason. You'll see what I mean. The game punishes spam rolling, atleast when it comes time to bosses.
Demon's Souls is down at the bottom, without a doubt. Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 2 are not much better. Bloodborne is a big step up but it has too many trash bosses, whether you play all Chalices or not. Dark Souls 3 is basically discount Elden Ring, they felt very similar. Naturally, ER is full of trash and repeatables but the best fights are better than the best ones in DS3. So it depends on your route in ER. Sekiro is in a league of its own, so much more than a dodge- or parry-simulator.
These games pretty much never have missable bosses, so don’t worry about that. Not even Bloodborne’s final boss was missable (I’ve seen misinformation) There are hidden bosses but they’ll never be gone forever if you don’t find them. There is one ending in Dark Souls 3 you can lock yourself out of. But since you can only get one ending per playthrough anyway, you may as well just take whichever ending comes naturally at first and look the others up on a replay.
The best hidden boss will require you to learn a gesture and come back to an older area where people are using that gesture. Do the gesture there and you will find a secret area with 2 hidden bosses, the second of which is a fan favorite.
Bloodborne should definitely not be above elden ring. Most of the main game bosses are mid only gascoigne, Gerhem, and Mabye matyr(not sure yet cause he really wasn’t that good imo will have to play through again) only when you get to the dlc do the bosses start being good. I just think bb combat doesn’t fit with bosses, you kinda just have to keep your distance cause they hit in flurry too fast to react to or just get behind them. Their really trival once you understand this strategy and it works on almost every boss( besides kos and Ludwig). Bb just isn’t that engaging tbh
@ I did actually and I didn’t say bloodborne wasn’t engaging I said the bosses are which is true because like I said standing behind them makes either repeat the same attack or do nothing(I.e mergo wet nurse, literally stood behind her she couldn’t do anything)
In my opinion ds3 has best boss but Elden ring bosses quality are very good most of them feels like unique on their ways and after sote DLC i can its hard for me to find better game with better bosses than elden ring only DS3 comes close
@@ahmedzayed8481bloodborne is by far the worst fromsoft game ive ever played, and honestly is the mosy mid game ive ever seen Elden ring is actually fun to explore, has fun enemies, and bosses are great
People love to sh** on big bad Elden Ring because it’s the most popular game. Bloodborne’s base game boss roster is mid at best with some highs here and there. If you include the chalice dungeons bosses it makes it even worse. ERs remembrance bosses both in the base game and dlc absolutely sweep and it’s not close. Complaining that you can’t attack frequently enough says everything I need to know about your fundamental understanding of the games mechanics and combat flow.
I agree with you on the most points except the last one. There are some kind unfair bosses with their attack chains or other gimmicks (self healing Malenia..).
I agreed with most of this list and really enjoyed watching your video. But the only thing I disagreed with is putting BB over ER. Bloodborne base game was filled with some pretty lackluster bosses and was saved only by the DLC. And even then a few DLC bosses cant earn it a spot higher than a game filled with lots of really good bosses. Other than that I agree with all of your list.
no way you ranked dark souls 3 bosses over elden ring and sekiro wtf. Lets just take it for a moment, half of the ds3 bosses are mid while the other half are good, but ds3 doesn't have many bosses. Like take greatwood, deacons, aldritch, yhrom, ancient wyvern greatwolf etc etc. The good bosses in ds3 are gael friede midir demon prince nameless king SoC gundyr pontiff abyss watchers and lorian and lothric. I agree these bosses are really good, but elden ring has twice as many bosses comparable to these bosses, margit godrick morgott radahn maliketh godfrey radagon malenia mohg rellana midra pcr romina messmer bayle placidusax etc etc. Still I'd understand this opinion because elden ring has many flawed bosses, and some of these bosses are tough to beginners and feel unfair, but now that i have got gud i enjoy every one of these bosses. But what i don't understand is Sekiro? I have done mortal journey in sekiro and i can say that sekiro has the most perfect boss lineup ever (except headless ape screw that). These bosses just feel so perfect once you get good and i cant name a single terrible boss among them other than headless ape I just wanna state how fair sekiro bosses are, if they weren't this fair i wouldn't have completed mortal journey, there is a reason only sekiro has a boss rush. even the seemingly terrible guardian ape and true monk are fair fights once you git gud. Lady butterfly is hated but i find all her attacks fair except the summons but you can remove summons with snap seeds and consumables are infinite in gauntlets so thats not a challenge either. Only headless ape is a true terrible boss in this game . Divine dragon and monkeys are spectacle and puzzle bosses, they are a nice detour and fromsoft acknowledged that they aren't true bosses by not keeping them in gauntlets. I haven't played bloodborne due to the evil playstation so i cant give my opinions about that yet
@EldenLord555 I have played it. I bought it Scholar of the First Sin shortly after beating buying DS1 and beating it twice in a row. Went in with low expectations and was still disappointed. I got about halfway through the game before I gave up because of how unbearable it was. It wasn't even because of difficulty. I sat down for hours to beat promised consort "normally." I've platinumed Elden Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborne, and DS1. I just couldn't beat DS2. The gameplay was slow and boring. The dodging was the worst in the soul series. The hitboxes for both the enemies and players were just not good. The game didn't have the charm of DS1 and was somehow more clunky than a game made years before it. I really tried to like it and I will beat it oneday. In my opinion, it just isn't good. I'm not trying to he trendy. It's the only soulsgame that I just didn't want to keep on playing. You're allowed to like it but just know: Most people don't.
@@RipVanWinkleJr You have to level up adaptability to increase your animation speeds and number of I-frames. This will make the combat feel less “clunky”. I promise, it isn’t as janky as DS1 once you understand it. DS2 is a weird, experimental game. It introduced some of the coolest mechanics to the franchise. Mechanics that were later abandoned in DS3, making for a much blander experience. Things like Power Stancing, Bonfire Ascetics, limited enemy spawns, and NG+ boss remixes. People are too easily influenced. I’ve just met far too many people (especially newer souls fans) completely write off DS2 having never played it. Or people’s opinions be impacted by the negative press, shaping their perception of the game. You have to remember, DS2 was loved at launch, scoring critically higher than DS1. It wasn’t until a popular TH-cam “think piece” caused major damage to its reputation, leading to a very vocal community of DS2 haters. Like my original comment said. In no world is DS2 dead last, behind DEMONS SOULS. Half of Demons Souls bosses are mediocre puzzles. And the ones that aren’t puzzles, are simply poor bosses.
i love elden ring and its my favorite game but i completely agree with you on the elden ring take. yeah messmer, midra, maliketh, and bayle are some of my favorite bosses in the series but factoring in the regular enemies with a boss healthbar which outnumber the amazing ones by a lot leads to a worse score than the top 3. i wish we got a good duo boss tho, lets hope nightreign delivers
When talking bout boss quality you dont consider level design so ds 2 definitely outclasses ds 1 and deS, like look im a souls veteran my first game was ds1 prepare to die edition but is fighting 3 asylum demon reskins really that fun or every other boss being a gimmick one, atleast the bosses in ds 2 actually require skills
Only Boss Quality 1. Elden Ring (DLC put it over Sekiro for me) 2. Sekiro (debatably #1) 3. DS3 4. Bloodborne (Gets carried by DLC) 5. DS2 6. DS1 7. DeS
@@kdecker65I disagree. People thought the same thing when DS3 releasead, "Bloodborne bosses with DS1 movement" was some of the criticism. The reality is From Software is desperately trying to evolve the souls's combat with each new game, so things are going to get progressively more complex or they can return to their roots and make a game like DS1, where the difficulty comes from the level design instead of the bosses. Either way, some people are not going to like it.
@@RipVanWinkleJr for me bloodborne and dark souls 3 have the highest highs. Placidusax is definitely in my top 5 for highest highs in fromsofts games though. I'd put lady maria, Ludwig, slave knight Gael, placidusax, and midir as my top 5 fromsoft bosses. My favorite type of boss is the quick female duelist type. Lady maria (my favorite fromsoft boss), friede, malenia, those type of bosses. The only reason I don't put friede and malenia in my top 5 then is because I think their fights are essentially lesser versions of lady maria. It's odd that she's the first of her type, yet she's the best still. But friede has too much 3rd phase aoe that's ridiculous to dodge + her fast moveset, and her 1st and 2nd phase drag the fight but are conceptually cool. Malenia suffers by having the BS waterfowl move, and a less aggressive and flashy moveset compared to both the other ladies. Also friede and malenia both have very boring boss music compared to lady maria. Malenias actually feels like a ripoff of Maria's, but without much action. Pretty sure its the same composer. They're all great, but Maria's only actual issue is that she's easy. Everything else about her is flawless. She's got the most fun moveset of any boss to dance with for me. Her fight is one of the few that actually feels like a dance of skill between a boss and the player. Its so back and forth, so aggressive on both sides, flashy moves from both, one of the best OST and best boss rooms in the franchise, one of the coolest boss weapons, blood + flame magic combo. The whole fight drips with style. To me lady maria is peak fromsoftware (along with Gael, gaels fight is just beautiful), and the old hunters is still fromsofts best dlc imo, and the hunters nightmare is one of the best areas in the franchise (honestly I also count the clocktower and hamlet as being part of the nightmare, it's all the same zone to me) Oh and the hunters nightmare is the best fromsoftware art direction ever. That walk through the tunnel that reveals the clocktower in the distance with the strange sky as a backdrop, perfect. That has to be the single best view in fromsofts games, and it's of an area designed to be nightmarishly ugly and sinful.
Dark souls remastered was my first souls game so it holds a special spot but have to say elden ring is much better and can't play Bloodborne since I don't have a PS5
@vit-t680 Curse-rotted Greatwood, Crystal Sage, Deacons of the Deep, High Lord Wolnir, Yhorm, Ancient Wyvern, Champion's Gravetender, and Halflight are all dogshit and make up about 1/3 of the roster. Add on mid bosses like Iudex Gundyr, Vordt, Old Demon King, Aldrich, and Oceiros, and that's 52% of all main bosses in the game being bad or mediocre. That's means that less than half of the games bosses are actually great quality
Agreed. Almost the entire early game and roughly 1/3 of the game's total bosses are bad gimmick fights. And it's not even that I inherently think gimmick bosses are bad, it's that all of the gimmick bosses in DS3 are worse versions of Demon's Souls bosses.
people be doing anything to hate on Elden ring, you literally said how you dont like the aggressiveness of elden ring bosses yet you love isshin's aggressive move set?, you also said curse-rotted great wood was "not to bad", nobody and i mean NOBODY actually enjoyed that fight, its entire purpose is to be a first time every playthrough fight that's just there cause it can be, im not saying the other souls games are bad because they definitely aren't, but to sit there and rank easily the best overall fromsoft game in 4 because you got skill checked on most bosses and weren't just free fights is insane, might be the coldest take list i've ever seen
There is a huge difference in the aggressiveness between ER and Sekiro. In ER the aggressiveness of the bosses just drags the fight longer, because while you're dodging, you're not inflicting damage, thus not progressing the fight. In Sekiro, you are constantly deflecting and by that you're breaking the enemy's posture.
Elden rings boss design vs Isshin's is not comparable at all lmao. Sekiro's combat is suited for fast combat, stolen dark souls combat is not. Use your head. Also let me be the first to debunk your theory on Curse-rotted Greatwood, because I found him more enjoyable than most elden ring bosses because it wasn't overly aggressive. Doesn't mean that I didn't die on him or any other boss in DS3 and bosses in other previous Soulsborne games, but they were fair, something I can't say for elden rings roster
Going back to Dark Souls 3 after Elden Ring you realise how basic the bosses are. Midra lowkey reminds me of the Nameless King actually with his slow, highly telegraphed but deadly attacks. I think all remembrances bosses in Elden Ring and even the worse one (Metyr in my opinion she has great lore, atmosphere and most of her moveset is ok) are all at least B tier imo.
People are too hung up on nostalgia biases. I replay most of these games for at least 3x each just to see if I also have biases. Elden Ring is the biggest FromSoftware game and there's a reason for it. Currently playing Bloodborne and I'm enjoying it but I honestly enjoyed DS2 early game more than this. Maybe I just expected too much since everyone is calling it a masterpiece but every bosses felt like they had the same formula for movesets and I haven't really went so far to learn any movesets at all. Just defeated Blood-Starved Beast and it almost had the exact same patterns. Logged out a bit because it was getting too stale honestly.
@@zubleo8590 I played Ds3 after ER and i enjoyed most of the bosses more, people give ER way more credit than it deserves for being complex, 99% of bosses in that game i could get away with fighting it the same exact way i fought Ds3 bosses. Just hug it and walk in a circle around it. Almost every attack can easily be rolled through. Also i think ER made delayed attacks feel way less special, it went from DS3 nameless king "This is cool" to every ER boss being "This again..."
10:48 Very little time for counter attacks? Well yeah if you think these bosses are like sekiro, most of the time you can just trade ur heavy blow with their weak attacks or just use a shield and the gates to Guard counter. They're agressive but so are you can and you get greatly rewarded for matching their agression. When you want to prefectly play the fight as if it's sekiro or dark souls that's 1 thing, but the moment you realize I have a big ass sword and a ton of HP or a Katana with a strong ash of war and you can keep up the agression by trading blows and getting those guard breaks and even if that isn't ur style these bosses have a lot of openings but it may take a while to realize you can jump heavy an attack or just walk a little to the side rather then a roll.
Ds3 has the best bosses in the history of soulsborne Imo with Elden Ring being a close second. Though I can def see a case for sekiro being ranked above Elden Ring as it does come down to preference/opinion.
Hey guys, I'd just like to thank you all for 10k views as well as 100 subscribers! It really means a lot to me that people are watching and enjoying my content! Now, as expected, we got a lot of varying opinions in the comments. Which is great! World would be pretty boring if everybody thought the same. I'm also catching a lot of heat for my Elden Ring placement. To be fair I did say that Elden Ring would be the most divisive. I stand by my list, but I will say this: If we're only counting Remembrance and Mandatory bosses (like Godskin Duo), then Elden Ring would rank higher than Bloodborne. But still below Sekiro and DS3. That is all. Happy holidays everyone and I'll see you on the next one!
Great video man! I hope you blow up!!
Great video! a lot of people dont seem to understand what an opinion is here...
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Your opinion sucks
I dont understand why people rank Elden Rings dungeon and field bosses but exclude Sekiro minibosses and BB Chalice bosses
Seems to be just bias against ER since if count the lesser bosses in all games or exclude them in all the games ER goes up in rankings significantly
He literally said he's not putting as much weight on the non-main bosses of ER and he also did consider sekiro minibosses as well
because the er mini bosses are done by way more players than the chalice dungeon things, i never finished the chalice dungeons and i have played bb 9 times now lol, the er mini bosses are done by way more people because they will get stuck on a hard boss and have to do the mini bosses to get more runes and level up, so it has way more impact on the experience
Cos most ER mini bosses r the same shit with some shitty added element to them. Sekiro mini bosses r trash as well cos they're surrounded by shitty gank squads.
Because elden rings dungeon and field bosses are in the main game around the world when you play so it's not really up to the player when it comes to wanting/not wanting to encounter them. Chalice Dungeons bosses are separated from the main game and it's more of an online thing (not to mention they're still reusing less than elden ring), and Sekiro's minibosses are minibosses, pretty self-explainatory.
@@anonisnoone6125 Sekiro's miniboses are pretty good, they serve their purpose well, rewarding players with prayer beads, and the schicimen warriors and headless are a unique type of minibosses with unique mechanics that not even main bosses copies
So for sekiro you only count remembrances but not elden ring? Thats a bit contradictory i think.
That's a fair point, though it wouldn't really change the ranking for me. I really enjoyed most of Sekiro's minibosses
@@StrengthGamerOfficialwhat about chalice dungeons in bloodborne?
elden ring mini bosses are 99% straight ass. Sekiro's mini boss's are at least somewhat fun and interesting to fight since 60% of them are all unique encounters.
The non remembrance bosses would have lowered Elden ring’s overall boss quality.
With sekiro it doesn’t matter as much since 90% of the bosses are incredible.
@@denberz711Wdym unique encounters? Half of them are literally the same samurais but with different name. The other half are dogwater Headless and Shichimen Warriors that will make your day a bit worse than usual
Bloodborne glazers when the boss is total dogshit to fight but the area is spooky and the lore is mildly interesting
Bloodborne fans are the lowest iq souls fans
@@skinless5136More hating.
Nah fr tho atmosphere merchants😭😂
@nozerc Its like a child who gets abused by his father and is recollecting his childhood and telling his friends "Yea he hit me pretty hard with his belt but the basement was dripping with atmosphere"
@@drpeepee05 Even though I don't entirely agree, that was pretty damn funny. Same with your original comment.
Having Bloodborne bosses over Elden Ring is definitely a wild take
100%. Most bb bosses are mid at best with the dlc carrying it for the most part. Also, ER shouldn't imo have non remembrances included if sekiro does get that treatment.
I was convinced Bloodborne was going to be bottom three, I was shocked to see it so high up.
I’d say its lows are higher as are its highs, so I can’t agree. While bosses like Shadows of Yharnam are less notable than others, the same applies to Elden Ring’s Fortissax, Regal Ancestral Spirit, Rennala, Fire Giant, and maybe this is a stretch, but Astel too. I also feel like in Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne, although there are a lot of easy and underwhelming bosses, very few are in the lowest tiers besides Halflight, Gravetender Greatwolf, maybe Curserotted Greatwood, or Aldrich. In Bloodborne, there are Rom, Witches of Hemwick, and Micolash. It might also be a mindset issue, but since Elden Ring bosses so often use the same techniques to trick the player, it makes it so no boss is engaging at a higher level of play. You can't compare rolling back and forth while locked off against Mohg (formerly my favourite Elden Ring boss) for an hour to the experience I had in Dark Souls 3 doing challenges like SL1 Broken Straight Sword against Pontiff or Midir.
The most fun aspect of Elden Ring's rememberance bosses to me, is the buildup on the first playthrough. They're usually separated by hours of exploration - at least until Crumbling Farum Azula - and when you make it to them the cinematic cutscenes and the distance you've travelled improve the experience much. On replays though, no boss in the game lives up to that hype for me except for maybe Placidussax because his attacks look cool.
@milesmonacothesequel2294 There are a bunch of bosses that live through that hype on replays for me, but you are right, it takes too long between fantastic fights in the base game
Bloodborne has a disproportionate amount of great bosses. Same with Sekiro. Those games have the least amount of bosses in the series, but some of the best. I'd say those two are the most quality over quantity games they've made.
BB over ER is unthinkable lol
90% of bloodborne base game bosses are dogshit
Yes Ludwig, gherman and maria while top 10 bosses of the decade worthy, do not justify a spot higher than elden ring, and rom is objectively shittier than bed of chaos
Dogshit take lmao
B-tier bosses:
Cleric Beast, Bloodstarved Beast, Amelia, Shadows of Yarnham, Wet Nurse, Bloodletting Beast, Abhorrent Beast, Watchdog, Pthumerian Elder & Descendant, Queen Yarnham, and Moon Presence.
A-tier bosses:
Ebrietas & Logarius
S-tier bosses:
Father G & Gehrman
And I aint even mentioned all C tier bosses
Using that language over a ranking I assume you’re buthurt that this guy rated it over ER, while the ratio of good to bad bosses in BB is comparable to ER, the greatest BB bosses are better
Yeah there is only 5 good bosses with the dlc
@@ah_helou2845The delusion is honestly crazy😂 those random ass bosses arent even close to B tier at all, most arent remotely interesting and have no backstory lmao. Elden Ring generally overall has better bosses and every single person knows tha
Dark Souls 3, Elden Ring, and Sekiro are top 3. I don't care in what order.
Elden ring bosses suck
@@deathknight1239cope
Not really but I would switch ER ranking with DS1 @@deathknight1239
this is honestly a great take, it really doesnt matter the order, i feel like its just subjective at that point since each games bosses are pretty different
I agree, I think DS3, ER, Sekiro, ik people aren’t gonna like sekiro on top but it’s an opinion and I liked it.
first time seeing so much love for Elden Ring’s bosses it’s actually crazy. I always see people just shitting on them without saying almost anything other than “badly designed” which doesn’t explain almost anything at all and isn’t even true
Yeah the community’s overall taste has changed dramatically & I’m glad it did because that’s what me and many others have been saying, the general quality of Elden Ring’s main bosses is undeniable, they are by far the best & most varied in any FromSoft game, you can’t argue against it, it also shows how the community has gotten used to ER’s bosses, now when a new FromSoft game has very hard bosses releases, people will reminisce & mention Elden Ring as this “fair & honest” game like they used to do it for previous Souls whenever Elden Ring is mentioned 2 years ago lol. You know it, I know it, it will happen. 😂😭
The og souls fans maybe but I've always seen people argue for elden ring. It's the most played game by a mile, so it makes sense.
@@HeyTarnished It depends, I rather agree with the list overall. There's quite a few things I never liked with Elden ring since the start for bosses.
They felt quite... pushed on some aspect. On one way your character is nearly as mobile as it would be in DS3, while on the other hand some bosses matches the speed and aggressiveness of bloodborn or even Sekiro.
It introduced many aspects from other games that were overlooked in terms of gameplay when in boss fights, like jumping.
Jumping in Sekiro mattered in boss fight. It had its use, it was built around, it was good.
In Elden ring, it's not even implemented correctly in the code. You have skills that make you jump without triggering the jump tag, while others don't make you jump while triggering it (You can check those against Hoarah Loux shockwaves, they have a specific tag on their hitbox that will determine that they are jumpable, it's not a question of hitbox as it covers the whole area).
And that's the same for a lot of things. The tools offered to the player are plenty, but a lot felt not maching with the gameplay of the bosses, which usually give this feeling of "they're relentless" or even "spamy" among all things. And the deflecting tear in the DLC confirmed that feeling to me, as a lot of bosses felt funnier to me while using it.
That's of course a matter of taste, and it doesn't makes those fights bad, they're overall really good. And the lore around them is amazing as well, even if I felt it was poorly built upon for quite a lot of boss in the DLC, which sometime felt to me a bit cheap on the edges, even for some of them that are my favorite in the whole game (Like Midra, love the guy, the bits of lore we get are amazing, but that's it, it's just tiny bits. Same for Romina, Rellana and even Mesmer even if he has a lot more that the others. But for the major figure of the DLC I felt disappointed).
There's the reuse bosses also, I never felt that they were not right for a good part of them, but man some are just tiring because they're not really fun, thought everywhere. I mean, those dragons and drakes, fuck those. Same for fallingstar beast.
But for some of those they felt cheap, like second Godrick but not Godrick, first Godfrey but not Godfrey, or second Mogh but not Mogh. And yeah, duo fights are terrible in this game imo.
As a game, overall, it's one of my favorite. It's huge, immersive, extremely wonderful to explore. But yeah, to each his own, still like the game, thought not as much for the bosses as Sekiro or DS3, or even bloodborn even if I didn't played as much of it as the others souls.
Great vid.
I feel like ppl intentionally love to hate Elden Ring and its bosses just because its a modern game. I get it, there are many repeated bosses, but what else do you expect from such a large open world game. Elden Ring is definitely top 2 for me and you cant deny how good some of the main bosses are even if your biased.
As others have said, u have to judge ER on remembrance/main bosses alone if youre doing that for Sekiro. Makes the quality much more consistent. Margit/Morgott, Maliketh, Radagon, Radahn, Rellana, Messmer, Midra, Godfrey, Bayle, Placidusax, Rykard, and even Godrick. Malenia and Promised Consort are ridiculously difficult and imo a bit overkill. That lineup is insane and beats the best any other game offers, including DS3
Doesn’t beat dark souls 3. Elden ring has some bad boss fights that aren’t easy god skin duo and fire giant. Bosses in ds3 that you can consider bad will never you ,ore than 3 tries. Elden ring consistently with its bosses are bad and all the have insanely long combos that you never get to use the cool ash of wars.
@ sounds like a skill issue. Using ashes of war is a privilege and not at all a requirement to fight any boss. Godskin Duo is not a good fight but you can still spam ash of war and that will trivialize the fight. Fire giant is straight up easy, his attacks are so telegraphed if you’re having trouble with him then i dont know what to say.
@@aidanlong239 While I agree with you the Elden Ring roster being sick, in DS3 you have Abyss Watchers, Pontiff, Dancer, Dragonslayer Armor, Champ Gundyr, Lorian, Soul of Cinder, Friede, Demon prince, Midir, Gael and the Nameless King. An insane boss roster.
@@dommelow2676Abyss watchers back stab merchant you only need to know how to punish 1 move and the fight is done after 3 backstabs, Pontiff is pretty good but doesn't have anything that crazy about him besides the clone which even at lvl1 you can just spawn kill, Dancer does one attack every two minutes in the first phase and by the time she gets to second phase she should be almost dead even at lvl1, Dragon armor is pretty good but just slightly better than a crucible knight at most, Midir while insanely cool has a brain dead easy moveset, Champion Gundyr is genuinely good got nothing to say except low hp and dmg, Friede is again a backstab merchant type boss where you don't need to engage with 90% of her moveset if you want to have an easy time, Gael is peak but still falls short of the top ER bosses imo, Lorian is very mid has one braindead easy combo with the teleport being the only mix up also Radagon's teleport is way better, Soul of Cinder curved sword phase has almost no openings sorcerer phase is way too easy and longsword phase has the worst delays possible as for second phase I think it's very easy and doesn't have anything special to offer the lightning is pretty cool though. Did I cover everything? Don't get me wrong I still love the game I just had to be a bit critical since we are comparing it with ER.
Edit: Nameless king first phase is pretty meh second phase very good but still nothing better than top ER bosses.
@@jetgaming5269 sorry but this is just wrong imo, DS3 has really one of the best boss lineups in the series (top 3 atleast) but saying that ERs bad bosses are worse because they take you more tries is just not it if a boss is bad then its bad no matter how many tries it may take one to beat. just my opinion tho
Even as a Bloodborne glazer (Personal #2) I can understand others putting it lower, but there's no dispute over DS3 not being #1 can't even fathom comments trying to deny it.
Are you saying it should be number 1 or it shouldn't be? Just asking for a bit of clarification.
@@TheOneWhoSouls1405 DS3 should be #1, there's no competition.
Lets just take it for a moment, half of the ds3 bosses are mid while the other half are good, but ds3 doesn't have many bosses. Half of ds3 is straight up trash
Like take crystal sage, old demon king, greatwood, deacons, aldritch, yhrom, ancient wyvern greatwolf etc etc. Iudex gundyr and vordt are good only the first timeThe good bosses in ds3 are gael friede midir demon prince nameless king SoC gundyr pontiff abyss watchers and lorian and lothric. I agree these bosses are really good, but elden ring has twice as many bosses comparable to these bosses, margit godrick morgott radahn maliketh godfrey radagon malenia mohg rellana midra pcr romina messmer bayle placidusax etc etc.
@@creeperYT9824I disagree on two fronts
I. Quality ≠ Quantity. Elden Ring has some great bosses but it also has some real stinkers, and they’re split roughly 50/50.
II. Of the stinkers, DS3’s are more memorable. Both games have some buns bosses but I remembered Wolnir or Greatwood a hell of a lot more than I did Astel or Regal Ancestor (and I say this rather confidently because it took me like 3 minutes to come up with those two fights).
obviously I’m not counting dungeon/mini bosses but truthfully if I did it wouldn’t change my opinion much.
@@DannyDevitoOfficial in my opinion elden ring ahss wayy more good bosses than ds3's good bosses, and most of the bad bosses you can skip, in ds3 there are many bad bosses like greatwood wolnir deacons crystal sage greatwolf gravetender ocerious halfight ancient wyvern yhorm aldritch, and a lot of them you cant skip, and msot of elden ring bosses have wayyy more variety than ds3 bosses like just compare margit and iudex gundyr
true list (remembrance bosses only)
1. elden ring
2. dark souls 3
3. sekiro
4. bloodborne
5. dark souls 2
6. dark souls 1
Best list, I have seen in this comment section
Actually valid placements
Agree 100%
kind of overrated elden ring in my opinion
@ It's your opinion, so that's great. However, when a game wins 435 Goty Awards [the most in history] and the majority of people who play it refer to it as the goat, we don't label it overrated.
and elden ring plays a huge role in making all from soft games popular
Bloodborne over elden ring is crazy
No it's not. Like he said, elden rings bosses are way too fast for the dark souls gameplay elden ring decided to rip from Dark Souls. Bloodbornes bosses are suited for the speed of the combat and much more unique. Less is more, quality>quantity, etc.
@@davidborne_1.0 ER bosses definitely aren’t too fast. I’m guessing you watched a video essay about ER and haven’t played the game.
@@davidborne_1.0 Stop this March 2022 nonsense. ER bosses are in no way too fast for ER gameplay.
@@davidborne_1.0the elden rings player combat is faster then bloodbornes lmao
@@davidborne_1.0 1/10 ragebait bro try harder
Personal ranking:
If minibosses in Sekiro and ER and chalice bosses in BB are included:
ER < DeS < DS2 < DS1 < BB < Sekiro < DS3
If only main story bosses are included (how it should be measured imo):
DeS < Ds2 < Ds1 < BB < Ds3 < Sekiro < Elden Ring
Swap ds2 up into fourth and put bloodborne in fifth
The main story boss ranking is how I’d put it 100%. DeS and DS2 might go back and forth tho depending on the day
Safe to say you despise ER mini bosses lol
@@chernandez212331 nah I honestly think some minibosses in ER are better than 90% of ds1 and 2 bosses and on the same level as even the better ds3 and bb ones. It‘s just the 150 repeated ass bosses that drag the game down
Ds3 bosses are mostly better than any other boss in the soulsborne series imo
Putting DS2's bosses under Demon's Souls and DS1 is kinda insane ngl
That what im saying demon souls bosses are ALL gimmick fights and only challenging ones are penetrator and old king allant. Im sick of hearing how “clunky” ds2 is when demon souls and ds1 are much slower. This list is ass
How? It's when taking into account all of the bad bosses and the good bosses. It 100% has the lowest boss quality.
@@RipVanWinkleJrif it took into account all good and bad bosses BB should be below ds1 and 2
@skinless5136 In the video, he states that he took all good and bad bosses into account when Ranking the games. The worst bosses in DS1 and 2 are worse than the worst bosses in Bloodborne, and the best bosses in Bloodbourne are better than the best bosses is DS1 and 2. Simple as that. Watch the video.
Ds2 obviously has the worst bosses in the series, it’s not close.
I would go like that
7 Demon's Souls
6 Dark Souls II
5 Dark Souls
4 Sekiro
3 Bloodborne
2 Elden Ring
1 Dark Souls III
Sekiro 4 is nasty work
Divine beast dancing lion is peak, especially the way the music syncs up
Ye and that camera is perfect 💯
@kdecker65 who needs eyes. Open your mind
@@spookywidetrap2884 tbh i didnt mind it that much, it made the fight feel more intimidating.
@@kdecker65 Stay in the middle of the arena & be mindful of your positioning, I swear you’ll do great if you ever thought & actually done that.
@@HeyTarnished Yep ive fought him a few times by now, it really doing that. There are still times though that i cant really control it though...
We can have our own opinion , but zero mention of Ludwig during Bloodborne part is criminal
If we only go by main story bosses, ER clears by a MILE. Maybe except sekiro idk cus i havent played. Maybe DS3 is up there in the top 3, but BB over ER? Unreal
Well, they had to increase bosses aggressivity in Elden Ring. Not only to give a challenge for veteran players (which this game was made for, not for casuals even though they included tools to help them) but also so they can keep up the player's pace. I need not remind you how much more mobile the player is in Elden Ring compared to any other Soulsborne, Bloodborne included AND how very generous stamina management is too. So yeah, it was the logical next step. You don't wait for an opportunity in Elden Ring : you create it. You ain't beating Malenia, blade of Miquella by waiting for your turn. And before you ask, I beat the game without using summons, spirits or ash of war, just me and my tusty longsword on my very first playthrough. So long as you pay attention to what the game is trying to teach you, it's very manageable. The only boss I struggled against and needed more than a hundred try is Malenia, and I felt very good finally beating her !
People are slowly waking upto the fact that Bloodborne has flaws. I'm tired of people hailing it as the best game ever and no criticism is accepted.
It is the best game ever has maybe 5 bad bosses it’s the most enjoyable game by far combat is much better than Elden ring and other souls games but I still do love all the other souls games too
@jackflanagan2517 see, exactly the type of discourse I'm talking about
Bloodborne was great game, even with flaws, haters are just overhated the game @@JuliusCaesar103
All of the souls games have flaws but Bloodborne is still the best lol
The main reason why I bought a PS4 and the only game for me to play on it which is Bloodborne. Played it for a few hours and it's definitely not as good as everyone keeps on shouting on those who never played it. I was just so tired of not having any arguments since I like literally never played it because of stupid exclusivity. Now that I'm playing it, I'm even more disappointed that this is the game that had this insane cult following.
Putting Demon Souls above DS2 is a crime. Yes, DS2 has a Quantity problem and that's why there are a lot of bad bosses. However, there are still enough good bosses in the game and I can even claim that these bosses are better than the DS1 bosses. I always have Sir Alonne>Artorias, Fume Knight>Manus, Ivory King>Kalameet. Demon Souls is clearly the souls game with the weakest and worst bosses. So it's out of the question. For this reason, I will compare DS1 and DS2.
Good bosses in DS1: Bell Gargoyles, Gaping Dragon, Quelaag, Ornstein and Smough, Sif, Nito, Four Kings, Sanctuary Guardian, Artorias, Manus, Kalameet
The remaining bosses, although they are beautiful in terms of design and design (Gwyn, Priscilla etc.), are not "good" bosses. At best they are "Okey/Fine" bosses or really "bad" bosses.
Good bosses in DS2: Pursuer, Ruin Sentinels, Executioners Chariot, Smelter Demon, Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Elena, Sinh, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne, Aava, Ivory King
The remaining bosses, although interesting in design and idea (Flexile Sentry/Skeleton Lords, etc.), are not "good bosses" or are just bad.
These "good bosses" that I listed from both games are bosses that are accepted in the general souls community. As you all see, DS2 has just as many good bosses as DS1. The problem is that there are many more "bad bosses" in DS2 than in DS1. This makes the game the weakest of the Dark Souls trilogy in terms of boss quality. However, DS2 bosses definitely cannot be pushed under Demon Souls bosses. This would be a disservice to the good bosses in DS2. This would be very unfair when some of them are already better than the bosses in DS1.
I'll say something crazy.
Demon of Song, Flexile Sentry, The rotten, Lost Sinner and Skeleton Lords are good bosses.
@@CelatraI absolutely love flexile sentry. I think it’s great. Don’t get why it’s always brought up as an example of one of the bad ones by DS2 haters.
@@Celatra I agree with all of them except Rotten and Lost Sinner. But I put the ones that are accepted by the general community in the list. Unfortunately, these bosses are not considered good enough.
I love it too, but I tried to keep the list general.
I put ds2 over up to bloodborne in my opinion, with elden ring 1/2 with sekiro
Ds1s boss quality is worse than ds2 and I’m tired of people acting like it’s not. Although it might have more bad bosses due to more bosses overall it at least has multiple good bosses rather than ds1s 1 good boss (artorias)
I think its cool seeing different opinions on these games and comparing to my own. I was honestly really surprised to see Dark Souls 2 at the bottom, but you did say it was your last Souls Game. It was my second, after Dark Souls 3, so maybe I see it in a more positive light, but I would put it above Demons and Dark Souls 1. Also, I LOVE Dark Souls 3, and I would rank it higher than Sekiro as a game and it would mostly be just because, I like Dark Souls, but in terms of boss quality I would put Sekiro at the top.
Saying ER failed duo bosses is a joke. The only hard one is duo ceucible knights
I pretty much completely agree with this. Though, Bloodborne and Elden ring can be interchangable.
80% of BB bosses from the base game are stinkers lol. Its the DLC that took full advantage of BB’s combat and movement!!
80%? No more like 40%, being one reborn, witches, micolash, celestial emissary, rom. The rest are fine, servicable at worst.
@@Sephirothkingdom782more like 95%
@@skinless5136 dawg I don’t think you know basic math
@@Sephirothkingdom782fine 100 percent
My personal list (not PS exclusives :( )
1.Elden Ring
2.Sekiro
3.Ds3
4.Tie-(DS1-DS2)
The reason why I prefer ER over Sekiro and DS3 is because I find a lot of fun on the learning process; I enjoy to be encouraged to try new things, I enjoy being rewarded with new windows if I use more than the traditional window, I love that the better I get at the game, the bosses, which at first couldn´t imagine to put an R1, have plenty of changes to put even an R2, and being able to attack on the middle of long combos. I know they are more controversial but I dont really care, I never had more fun with any other Soulsborne boss design overall.
Jose you gonna play the Bloodborne emulation?
@shinyhydreigon7257 I already downloaded the rom ;-)
@@shinyhydreigon7257OMG it’s Shiny & Jose, you two are awesome people. ❤
omg hi Jose! props to you for explaining your reasoning and not being overly disrespectful!
I love dark souls 3 bosses so much its crazy
Ah yes. The Nostalgia Boner is great with this one. Also wtf is the Bloodbourne Rating??
Bloodbourne has few good bosses. Elden rings best bosses are better than the rest of Souls. As someone who has played through DemonSouls, DS1-3, Bloodbourne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring, I can confidently say that Elden Ring, while having the most filler bosses (it is an open world game after all) has the best remembrance/soul bosses. Consort Radahn, Maliketh, Melania, Midra, Mohg, Bayle, Fortisaxx, and Messmer are all phenomenal, and have interesting lore behind them.
Overall, from my personal experience, I’d say
1. Elden Ring - Newest Installment. Fromsoft wouldn’t know what they were doing if they made it worse than previous titles. I love the older souls games too, but some people need to look past the nostalgia and realize how good EldenRing is. It took DS3’s playability and amped it through the roof. Midir was the staple for ER Dragons, and that’s great. Midir was a good boss, not difficult, but a good base for dragon fights onward. But Bayle is unarguably better in my opinion. Messmer and Maliketh were also amazing. The game hands down had the best endings. Not even a contest.
2. DS1 - Loved all of the bosses in this game. Save the Bed of Chaos, there was not a singular Boss I disliked. Manus was such a good finish for the DLC, Artorias was a phenomenal fight, and I actually like Kalameet. His lore was interesting and I enjoyed his fight.
3. Sekiro, Shadows Die Twice - The Get Gud simulator. I loved this game personally. It was very fun and its bosses were memorable. Isshin, Demon of Hatred, Lady Butterfly. The combat took some getting used to for me, but once I got it down it was one of my favorite Fromsoft Games to date. The Lore is amazing too.
4. DS3 - Good. Very Good Game. Memorable bosses like Gael, Friede, Midir, and Nameless King. Very overrated however. The Fromsoft Community treats it like some Golden Child Game when it honestly isn’t. It’s good, not saying it’s bad by any means, but it truly pales in comparison to Elden Ring. It’s a newer installment so it’s gonna be higher than most, but when comparing it to Elden Ring and DS1, it feels lackluster to me.
5. DS II - This game overall was a mix for me. I loved the bosses, and the lore of everything abyss wise is happening because Manus’ depowered shards are still rampaging around. Loved the Fume Knight, The Pursuer, and I have some funny memories with the Royal Rat Authority. However it’s just the runbacks that really ruin it for me. It’s a good game overall though. I do enjoy it and its bosses.
6. Bloodbourne - The Ambience and theme of the game is phenomenal. I will give it that. However the bosses were very lackluster. The same thing really over and over again. I will admit, Orphan was a Phenomenal step up in bosses. It was a challenge, with actual interesting lore. Aside from him and Gherman though, I don’t find any of the bosses to be that interesting.
This is BOSS WISE, not game wise as a whole, as well as it being my opinion entirely.
I will die om the hill that ornstien.and smough is not a good duo fight, the overall core gameplay loop of rhe fight is horrendous.
GinoMachino, probably one of the most recognized challenge runners oit there actually delved into why its a bad fight in one of his videos
Very overrated fight. They overlap attacks more than people say and “using the pillars” feels terrible. B tier
Definetly agreed, one of the most overrated fights in souls series.
Can you tell me what video it's in? I'm quite interested in hearing his reasons.
Demon prince is probably their best gank fight
bloodborne.... the game with 3 good bosses that you can only fight if you get the dlc is above elden ring.
As someone who's played every game, i'll say this: the top 4 fight for each other's spots every time i log on and play each of them. Lady maria, isshin, consort radahn, and gael are all very very well made fights to me, and i love them all for different reasons. Isshin feels like youre defeating a legend, gael feels like youre putting a friend's soul at rest, lady maria feels like youre fighting what you could become, and radahn goes from a difficult foe to what becomes insurmountable odds. All unique, all fantastic, and all top, top tier for me.
I think your elden ring ranking is completely awful, I genuinely do believe elden ring has the best quality of bosses. Godfrey, Maliketh, Messmer, Godrick, Radagon, Malenia, Radahn ( both of them ) , The frenzied flame, Astel, Margit, Mohg, Rykard, The champion fight in the dlc. I think elden rings boss qualify for the story line and dlc bosses is AMAZING. I do believe it’s #1
Ds2 below demon souls and ds1 is wild. Bloodborne base game has two good fights and the dlc has three.
How could you even say something so ridiculous?
Bloodborne that high is kinda crazy I'd put it like 5 tbh 😭
Bloodborne being so high is wild. The dlc bosses are good but the rest are mostly mid
So are Elden Rings. Mostly mid.
@ nah the main bosses are spectacular as hell
@Blorxian-hater The actually good ones are, yes, they are spectacular, but other bosses are complete horse shit. Even main bosses like the fire giant, Godskin Duo, Sir Gideon Ofnir, and in my opinion, Rennala. The DLC also has a ton of main boss stinkers. Like Jori, Gaius, Scadutree avatar, and the Golden hippo. These are just bosses that either have to be killed or block the main content. There are so many other stinkers.
@ It’s true that Elden ring isn’t the best boss wise, but I still think the proportion of great memorable bosses higher than bloodborne, despite having more stinkers because there are more bosses overall. And I don’t think sir Gideon is a bad boss, he’s supposed to be easy, a little weak betraying shithead that you stomp 3 minutes before reaching Godfrey which is an amazing penultimate boss
@Blorxian-hater It definitely has a higher number of great bosses overall, but that's just because it has many more bosses. The actual good to bad boss ratio for Elden ring is far worse than Bloodborne. Gideon is still just a crappy boss. Not only is he an NPC boss (which is already pretty lazy), but nothing about him is actually unique. Non of his spells are unique to him and all he does is spam. In my experience, the fight is also inconsistent. I either kill him in a few seconds (I literally oneshot him on my most recent build) or he bullies the shit out of me. Thank God an actually good boss is right after him.
Actually, I just realised that Elden ring does that a lot. Puts a terrible boss right before a great boss.
Gideon before Godfrey
Senessax before Bayle
Jori before Midra
Golden hippo before Messmer
Red wolf before Rennala (still hate her)
Godskin Duo before Maliketh
Loretta before Malenia
Common cause before Radahn (kinda)
Either that, or some shitty enemy right before a great boss.
Elden ring bosses give plenty of opportunity to attack what do you want them to do just pause you have to learn wen and how to slip attacks and healing in
I do not consider dodging though a 5 hit combo to get 1 attack in during most bosses "Plenty of opportunity"
@@kdecker65it is though. Replaying ds3 ive noticed that the fights simply are over to quickly since the bosses give to many attack windows. ER fixed this and it‘s so much more fun however I will agree sometimes it‘s a bit too much downtime (pcr)
@@TimothyStrauß-x2j i agree to an extent, some Ds3 bosses really needed more hp...
It is funny though the whole game having low hp bosses and then i got to gael and i almost shit myself seeing his hp.
You’d think someone ranking souls games would understand the idea of patience, perseverance and learning attack windows
I’ll admit Elden Ring does have a few bosses with very few attack windows, Rellana and Promised Consort Radahn being the best examples of such, but the majority of bosses have clear attack/heal windows
@@kdecker65i think thats bad design tho everything is pretty squishy except gael whose way too tanky
Switch BB with Elden Ring and that's exactly how I would personally rate them.
putting bloodborne above elden is a funny joke
And ds3 at first? Okay bro
I might get why Sekiro and DS3 are higher than Elden Ring but Bloodborne?? THE WORST thing about bloodborne IS the bosses quality 😂 The DLC carries it hard and STILL I could name 10 bosses in Elden Ring that are better than the best boss in BloodBorne.
I agree on DS3 taking the crown. When your fighting abyss watchers - this boss and nearly every fight after is a banger.
I do not agree on Sekiro and Elden Ring and would probably switch their ranks. Elden Ring has a lot of Bosses like you said „are just there“. But in absolut numbers also the most enjoyable and banger Bosses. Nearly every rememberence boss is a banger. Sekiro has a lot annoying bosses to me.
maybe just personal preference.
Appreciate the list and can totally understand why you ranked it like this. 🙂
Keep it up!
I think Elden Ring and Sekiro are tied for first.
@@chives8980agreed, and personally I put ds2 in fourth with bloodborne in fifth
Elden ring has a lot of stinker/reused bosses. However, the take of saying some of the fights are too fast paced is a get good moment. It is home to the best bosses in the series by far.
It's weird. Most of the bosses are mid, but the good bosses are the best in the series by a longshot. I feel like Elden Rings' boss quality could be the best or one of the worst, depending on what way you put it.
I mostly agree but Demon's Souls with DS2 and Bloodborne witn Elden Ring should definitely switch places.
There's too many bangers in Elden Ring to be placed below ds3 and bloodborne.
Bloodborne over Elden Ring? DS3 over Sekiro? Yeah this list is a joke. Sekiro has the kost consistent boss fights. You have to literally go through half of the base game in DS3 to reach the first actually difficult and good boss (Pontiff). DS3s roster is carried by the dlcs. 2nd place for DS3 would've been fine.
He said it was interchangeable. Bloodborne over Elden Ring makes sense. Just think about the sheer number of bad or mid bosses. DS3 in my opinion has more fun bosses than Sekiro. Sekiro just has better combat. Outside of the DLC, I really like Pontiff Sulyvahn, the Abyss watchers, the Dragon Slayer armour, champion Gundyr, the nameless king, twin princes and the Soul of Cinder. I like more bosses in DS3 than Elden ring, despite Elden ring having around 200 more bossfights than it.
Just the usual DS3 glaze. It's like not speaking is better than speaking too much. DS3 did away with having only a few quality bosses and everyone thinks it's a masterpiece. I personally prefer having my own idea of what I want to fight among a vast array of enemies than fooling myself that these only few sets of bosses are far better than the game with the most quality and quantity ones. Elden Ring Vs Sekiro, I don't really care because both are just complete masterpiece. DS3 on the other hand is also quite good but it's nowhere near as good as everyone is saying it to be. It has almost the exact cult following like Bloodborne.
@MclovinLovesYou Elden ring has soooooo many good bosses tho. Margit, mohg, radahn, rykard, godrick, radagon, tree sentinel, placidusax, fortissax, Malikith, Godfrey spirit, Horah loux, Loretta, mesmer, rellana, putrescent knight, midra. Probably some I forgot.
@SaintsFan09-z3s And that's pretty much all of them. Tree sentinel, fortisaax, and Loretta are mid at best. They're all just reskins. Just think about it. Those are the only good bosses you could think of. Thats 18 bosses, including DLC, out of the 230 bosses in Elden ring.
@@SaintsFan09-z3s Yes Elden Ring has a lot of amazing fights but there are a few stinkers here and there. In sekiro, the only bad boss i can think about is the blazing bull and guardian ape duo. That's pretty much it.
Bloodborne should not be above ER
Bloodborne shouldn’t be over ds2
@@skinless5136let’s not get crazy.
@@Budd631literally had comparable boss quality to ds2, it should be above des and ds1 with ds2 in fourth
@@Budd631tbh that’s not crazy to say in terms of highest highs bb obviously blows ds2 out of the park but in terms of boss quality in general ds2 and bb aren’t that far off bb is ahead only by a little bit alot of bb bosses are terrible 😭
@@skinless5136 DS2 has one good boss in the base game, being darklurker, a boss that doesn't have 2 moves in its entire kit.
Bloodborne over Elden Ring. DS1 over DS2.
I am sure nostalgia plays 0 part in this ranking lmao.
I agree with the bloodborne take but ds1’s bosses are absolutely better than 2’s
@@louiemeister9646they're not lmao, alot of DS1 bosses are 10x worse than anything DS2 has to offer, I'd rather fight anything in DS2 than bed of chaos or seathe.
Plus it has more good bosses like Sir alonne, fume knight, the pursuer, darklurker, velsdatt, glass knight, ivory king, Aava, Sinh and Smelter demon.
Unbelievable Bloodborne glazing lol, this video is…a weird one, he also said ER bosses are designed with summons in mind, bruh I’m done 😭😭💀
@@TheLastGame666 The only good boss in ds2's base game is darklurker. Velsdatt has literally 2 moves, glass knight also has 2 moves and is carried by the pvp gimmick something that has nothing to do with the boss's actual moveset, and the pursuer is brought down by his trash hitboxes and is way too easy.
Also listing bed of chaos and seathe while ignoring the actual good bosses in the game is just blatantly disingenious, might as well not even comment at that point. Ignoring orenstein and smough (ds2 literall reuses orenstein 1 for 1 lol), queelag, gwyn, twin gargoyles (a boss that ds2 reuses with like 10 more gargoyles and accumulates into the worst fight in the game), artorias, manus, kalameet is incredible.
Aava is way too basic for a dlc boss, she has barely any moves and is later reused into the worst gank fight in the series with easily the worst runback they've ever made. Ivory king is a C tier boss because of how reptitive the first phase is and even phase 2 has some massive hitbox problems especially on his grab. Sir alonne and fume knigth are good I'll give you that.
@@HeyTarnished ER bosses being designed with summons in mind is a lie lol, idk what dude was smoking.
a lot of bloodbornes bosses are mid at best, with only some that are great. elden rings bosses are way more complex than any in the series
And they will use 'unpredictable' and 'jank' when they can't understand Elden Ring bosses moveset because every bosses before Elden Ring bosses existed was just swipe attacks, one stomp, two stomp or a tail sweep and they would call that fair and diverse moveset. 😂
complexity ≠ quality
@@DannyDevitoOfficial just swipe attacks, one stomp, two stomp or a tail sweep ≠ quality ass well. If a boss fight is complex in a game supposed to feel rewarding for for learning it. Then that in fact makes "complexity" as biggest part of boss quality. The others will be music , atmosphere and lore.
I swear to god bloodborne only has 2 top tier bosses and 2 other good bosses how is it over elden ring
I haven't played BB or Sekrio yet, but I do agree with this list. I do think Elden Ring has the best bosses in the series, but it also has a high density of bosses that suck/are just there. Almost every boss in DS3 is incredible and many of them rank highly in my eyes. Out of sheer consistent quality, DS3 deserves the win.
Couldn't agree more
same
Nah ER has SOME of the best bosses in the series but so many r mid due to shitty game design.
@@anonisnoone6125 yeah gael, friede, isshin and ludwig are better
@@anonisnoone6125i don’t know bro but can you tell me what exactly is a bad design cause I didn’t see anything bad in them tbh
Bloodborne does a lot of things very well but its boss lineup quality is NOT one of them lmao.
Bloodborne doesn't deserve to be that high, It's extremely carried by the DLC, and even the DLC bosses aren't on the level of the best we've seen.
Elden Ring should be either second or first, not only do you have the highest amount of peak bosses, but alot of these bosses provide alot more to a fight in terms of complexity and mechanics, even some of the mini-bosses in this game are top tier like the death knights and black knife assassins.
Dark souls 1 should go back all the way down to the bottom with Demon's souls, It has the lowest lows like bed of chaos and centipede demon, Dark souls 2 never had worse bosses in that regard, and atleast some of it's bosses are unique and complex.
Ludwig, Orphan of Kos and lady Maria are all at least Top 20 from software bosses
You can’t unironically say “Elden ring deserves 1 or 2” then cite literal copy paste shit mini bosses as “top tier” lmao
@@antoniomarquetti3444and all from the dlc, look at that
@@bruckback9720godskin duo is unironically better then like 80% of BB bosses lmao
@@skinless5136 no. Godskin duo is a fundamentally broken and terribly designed fight with no real thought put into it
Great list, I agree with almost anything. I just would've swapt BB and ER. DLC BB bosses are phenomenal, but I dislike a lot of the base game ones. There are some great one yes, but although the issue with the over-aggressivness of ER bosses is definitively true, for me it is still more enjoyable than the majority of (in my opinion) annoying or boring bosses of BB base game😬
Under rank Elden Ring but using it for the algorithm is wild
Dark Souls 2 has no outstanding bosses?? Ruin Sentinels? Smelter Demon, Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Elana, Sinh, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne? I get that it has a lot of mediocre ones, but every single one of those is superior to every fight in the base game of Dark Souls 1.
Ruin sentinels better than Ornstein and Smough?
no
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS
FOR SO MANY YEARS
people will literally take any chance they get to shit on ds2 bosses for NO REASON
ds2 has better bosses than ds1 and DeS and people refuse to see the vision because big youtubers have told them to hate ds2 because "durr adp bad durr lifegem bad durr prowling magus and Lud & Zallen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when in all actuality ds2 was the first turning point where bosses went from "big hitbox that can sometimes hit back" to "actual engaging interaction where you need to manage your stamina and THINK when you play the video game"
ds2 haters are so blinded i swear on my LIFE
Fume knight is the only good boss in ds2 lol
@@taxevasion4736 I get you wanna defend DS2 because it does get too much hate, but mentioning DS2 DLC bosses and excluding DS1's DLC bosses is just not a sincere argument.
Everyone mad about blood borne be Elden ring don’t understand how many filler bosses are in Elden ring
Bloodborne had repeats & so many trash chalice dungeon bosses but he didn’t mention them, we should be strictly talking about the main bosses, “Remembrance bosses”, which are of a way higher quality than in Bloodborne, I don’t think you can argue that unless if you just don’t like how ER bosses function which is plain subjectivity.
Bloodborne has literally infinitely more filler bosses in Chalice Dungeons lmao
@@jamesbell1186 Yeah true, people just don’t seem to get that, even enemy variety in Bloodborne DLC is extremely weak, vast majority of the enemies there are from base game lol, people tend to forget about this stuff & proceed to laser focus on Elden Ring’s “negatives.”
@@HeyTarnished Some Elden Ring criticisms are so funny to me. The base game got a lot of flak for having too many mini dungeons that were underdeveloped, so then they made fewer in the DLC and fleshed them out more and people complained there wasn't enough to do in the overworld. There's no winning.
@@jamesbell1186 So true! It’s like they don’t know what they want at times, even though what the asked for in base game was much more complex & comprehensive caves designs, in DLC they did that in flying colors with its caves & the new Forges but very few seem to talk about them sadly, they are such a huge upgrade from base game that people seem to take for granted & some TH-camrs did go as far as saying the Forges not having a recycled mini boss at the end made it less memorable & interesting, and I’m like “WHAT THE HECK?!” How? Just how? This is one of their main complaints in base game how there were a lot of repeats there lol. It’s insanity! 🥺
My top 3 would be
3 - ds3
2 - sekiro
1 - elden ring
Reason being, DS3 has a lot of mid bosses up until Pontiff Sulyvahn. Sekiro is the most well rounded with a few bad ones like the ape gank. Elden ring gotta be first since it has the most cinematic and engaging bosses we've seen so far
Nice
Elden ring’s bosses despite being “cool” can never reach the levels of ds3. They can be cinematic sure but they are no where near the level of engagement of Ds3. In ds3 you really dance with the bosses, it is a feeling that is merely replicated in Elden ring.
@sarpgozen5349 no way, I think elden ring's combat is ds3 done better, sincr it's the same combat with a few major improvements, same for the main bosses
@@sarpgozen5349maybe try playing Elden ring again, because it seems like you never developed your skills or tried to get better, instead believing it to be ds3 dlc 3
@@sarpgozen5349the dance like feeling is 10x better in ER due to faster more complex combat and in general more player expression. The only bosses in ds3 with a „dance like“ feeling to them are pontiff, champ gundyr, sister friede and gael
I love how elden rings bosses are a lot less inconsistent than the others. It makes them still somewhat challenging after playing the game a lot.
I dont know the bloodstarved beast is shit and the famous ludwig first fase is mid because of his wierd hitboxes especially his jump attack.
2 year’s and people still play it like it’s ds3 when will they learn to actually play elden ring like elden ring also you should’ve only counted remembeance bosses seems fair right?
People don’t wish to learn anymore, since they already conquered the ultra difficult ds3
@@skinless5136exactly this is the only way they think about about elden ring and I hate it.
@DamianSamson-t8ryea it’s really quite sad, especially people who pride themselves on beating these games because of they’re “difficulty” and as soon as they begin to actually get difficult they start to hate on it??
@@skinless5136ok but ds3 is the easiest of the three souls games lol
@@skinless5136I think it’s an ego problem because they say they have beaten a hard game and think I should never struggle with anything else again. for example I have beaten manus so now malenia is a piece of cake like wtf
When you’re counting games that have a billion bosses like Elden Ring, it’s better to focus your attention on the bigger bosses
The Remembrance Bosses, since bringing every little overworld boss into it will lead to an annoying discussion
So counting only Remembrance Bosses, Elden Ring kicks Bloodborne and spits on its barely conscious body
Bloodborne has some of the most mid bosses in the series, that make up the majority of its base game bosses
ER bosses were just vfx spam and unbalanced messes. ER is one of the best but it isn't this glaze worthy. Most bosses in the game are just cheap and not fun to play or have some gimmick to make them hard. The godlike perspective of the bosses were taken too far and didn't feel like an actual dance like bosses of other games. It was just wait till you could see what tf was happening, do a jumping attack, sprint back out and let them look like a movie until you can jump attack again.
lol what are you even talking about. ER has probably the worst major bosses in the entire series.
Saying bloodborne has mid bosses that make up the majority of the base game bosses while ignoring the fact that elden ring's open world bosses...make up the majority of ITS base game bosses is the most blatant hypocrite logic I've seen in this comment section.
"No your honor ignore the countless dogshit fights in the base game for my favorite game because im biased".
@@inoodlesi4459this take barley correlates with Elden ring but more with Bloodborne ngl, there’s barely any gimmicks, that’s more of a bb thing, and the vfx spam is clearly referencing consort radahn and nothing else
@@Sephirothkingdom782he already mad his reason why u can’t count most of the Elden ring bosses, there’s just too much so u have to aim for the special ones
What is this ranking😭 Bloodborne over ER Even after the DLC? Blasphemy
The dlc literally made Elden rings boss design worse.
@@upsideproductions2bro u can atleast try to make the bait believable
@@TheLastGame666he's right tho
@@HellonearthlABB no. the dlc had some of the best best bosses in the entire series
@@upsideproductions2 Malenia, Godfrey, Maliketh wanna know your location
My ranking: I haven’t played ds2 or demons souls so I won’t rank them
Bloodborne: I love bloodborne but the bosses aren’t all that hard to understand and the gun parry system is broken. It completely trivializes gehrman, lady maria, and bsb. If you’re good it also trivializes logarius and orphan. These are decent bosses but nothing special. The standouts are ludwig and orphan.
Ds1: ds1 is decent until o&s but falls off until the dlc. Gwyn sucks. The dlc is peak tho. Kalameet, manus, and artorias are all goated
Sekiro: all the main bosses are peak except the ape duo. Bosses can be a bit samey mid game tho
Elden ring: going by remembrances 80% of the base game bosses are good mechanically. The main dlc bosses are all great and I love rellana and messmer in particular
Ds3: great bosses front to back tbh. Game rarely misses
nah ranking elden ring 4 cause of skill issue is crime for me
If you're waiting too long to get hits in then it is a skill issue. The bosses in Elden Ring are designed to have gaps inside of their combos. You're fundamentally playing the game wrong.
Some are. Others are plagued by incredibly short gaps suitable only for very fast weapons or giving in to RNG and just hoping that the boss won't start a new combo as you're hitting it
@StrengthGamerOfficial There is no RNG in ER. The boss's moves are determined by positioning. It's another level of skill expression that a lot of players don't bother learning. Some bosses can even be cheesed by baiting the same attack over and over again. Blaming RNG is a scrub's mentality.
@@fili0938 your a very insolent and rude little bitter person aren’t you
You're correct but that doesn't disprove my point. Yes positioning matters in Elden Ring as it does in all FromSoft games. Yes bosses can be baited for certain moves that are easier to counter (eg Morgott's jump attacks). But that doesn't mean that the overarching problem of bosses being too aggressive and leaving too little time between combos doesn't exist. It absolutely does and all you need to do to realize it is go back and play previous souls games, where the balance was better. But if you're going to be disrespectful then there's no further point in arguing with you pal. See ya
@@StrengthGamerOfficial "Being too aggressive" is a subjective thing and you can have whatever opinion you want. But if you're waiting 30 secs at a time then you're playing it wrong. Previous bosses were simpler and easier. That doesn't mean they were "more balanced". ER bosses are very balanced given the fact that you can consistently punish pretty much anything in their arsenals. If you don't want to spend the time it takes to learn a boss's moveset then that's fine, but don't complain that they're unfair just because you haven't learned their movesets. I have not been disrespectful at any point in this conversation. A scrub's mentality is to blame other factors than themselves when their mistakes lead to them losing. That is the difference between a bad player and a scrub. That is not an insult, that is a fact. If you consider that disrespectful then perhaps it is time for some self-reflection.
Sorry but i just cant stand beast fights. I cant read any of the movesets of any bb beast boss, it just feels janky and extremely random most of the time. Might just be a skill issue but still I prefer to fight humanoid bosses all day. My ranking would be kinda like demons souls, ds2, bb, ds1, er, ds3, sekiro (bottom to top)
Most people prefer human bosses (including me). I still like the beast bosses but their should have been more hunter bossfights in Bloodborne.
Maybe it is a skill issue cuz i tried bb and all beast fights were a joke. It is quite janky i can admit to that. I just don’t get how ppl find bb to have the best bosses in the series
@@Moonlight40471yeah thats what i mean. The bosses aren’t particularly hard or difficult to beat, but they just feel absolutely random and for most beasts i dont see any patterns in their attacks
I've always preferred beast bosses but I can see why most people don't like them, this is also cause Bloodborne ironically has the worst beast bosses by far, turning them into attack spamming, nigh unreadable, camera breaking messes. Demon Prince is still the best beast (and duo) boss
Funny how I have the complete opposite situation right now. The beast boss fights feel so easy because they literally the same movesets. They either delay stomps, delay swipes, instant stomp, or a sudden jump with a bit of delay on landing. I find it so ridiculous that I've never had to memorize movesets because that's literally the best part of fighting bosses in FromSoftware games
Sekiro is leagues above DS3 and it's not close. DS3 is just spam roll to win, in Sekiro you actually have to learn the game and you can't say spam block because that doesn't work.
Spam blocking works about as well as spam rolling
@Hostefar Thing is I've played the game and no it doesn't. Spamming block doesn't fill up enemy posture since it's not a deflect and it only fills up your posture bar which leads to you getting staggered and then subsequently killed.
@@Leon.K69you can rapidly tap L1 to deflect and you’re fine. Then back off and hold L1 for 2 seconds and your bar resets. It’s really not as complicated as people make it. It’s actually beauty in simplicity. Everyone is playing the same game. ER it’s impossible to gauge bc everyone’s build is mostly different.
@@Budd631 no I've tried it for my first hour of the game and was getting no where. Nevermind the fact that there's also unblockables
@@Leon.K69A similar thing can be said for Ds3. If you spam roll, your going to get caught up in a combo. A lot of ds3's bosses are designed to get you to spam roll so you end up taking damage. Boot up the game and try spam dodging Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, Pontiff Sulyvahn, Twin Princes, Dancer, Champion Gundyr, Iudex Gundyr, Abyss Watchers, Midir, Friede, Gael, and the armor guy that I can't remember the name of for some reason. You'll see what I mean. The game punishes spam rolling, atleast when it comes time to bosses.
I just beat dark souls 3 the other day and it was absolutely Incredible. Happy to see it up there!
Demon's Souls is down at the bottom, without a doubt. Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 2 are not much better. Bloodborne is a big step up but it has too many trash bosses, whether you play all Chalices or not. Dark Souls 3 is basically discount Elden Ring, they felt very similar. Naturally, ER is full of trash and repeatables but the best fights are better than the best ones in DS3. So it depends on your route in ER. Sekiro is in a league of its own, so much more than a dodge- or parry-simulator.
I’m just about to get ds3 and the dlcs are there any missable bosses in the game or the dlc that I should know
Also any important questlines
These games pretty much never have missable bosses, so don’t worry about that. Not even Bloodborne’s final boss was missable (I’ve seen misinformation) There are hidden bosses but they’ll never be gone forever if you don’t find them.
There is one ending in Dark Souls 3 you can lock yourself out of. But since you can only get one ending per playthrough anyway, you may as well just take whichever ending comes naturally at first and look the others up on a replay.
The best hidden boss will require you to learn a gesture and come back to an older area where people are using that gesture. Do the gesture there and you will find a secret area with 2 hidden bosses, the second of which is a fan favorite.
Yes. Only Sister Friede. Its easy to miss
The highs of ER bosses > every high other FS games provide combined
Bloodborne should definitely not be above elden ring. Most of the main game bosses are mid only gascoigne, Gerhem, and Mabye matyr(not sure yet cause he really wasn’t that good imo will have to play through again) only when you get to the dlc do the bosses start being good. I just think bb combat doesn’t fit with bosses, you kinda just have to keep your distance cause they hit in flurry too fast to react to or just get behind them. Their really trival once you understand this strategy and it works on almost every boss( besides kos and Ludwig). Bb just isn’t that engaging tbh
To suggest that Bloodborne isn't engaging tells me all I need to know to understand that youve never played Bloodborne
@ I did actually and I didn’t say bloodborne wasn’t engaging I said the bosses are which is true because like I said standing behind them makes either repeat the same attack or do nothing(I.e mergo wet nurse, literally stood behind her she couldn’t do anything)
I would personally switch Elden Ring with Bloodborne, but good list.
In my opinion ds3 has best boss but Elden ring bosses quality are very good most of them feels like unique on their ways and after sote DLC i can its hard for me to find better game with better bosses than elden ring only DS3 comes close
Bloodborne above Eldenring gotta be the worst take ive ever seen. Like dont get me wrong i love Bloodborne but that shit just objectively wrong
Bruh it's objectively a better game. Most ER Bosses are just underwhelming.
@@ahmedzayed8481bro said bb is better than elden ring
@Matthew58257
Absolutely. Elden ring is a terrible game with some great bosses.
@Matthew58257
Absolutely. Elden ring is a terrible game with some great bosses.
@@ahmedzayed8481bloodborne is by far the worst fromsoft game ive ever played, and honestly is the mosy mid game ive ever seen
Elden ring is actually fun to explore, has fun enemies, and bosses are great
People love to sh** on big bad Elden Ring because it’s the most popular game. Bloodborne’s base game boss roster is mid at best with some highs here and there. If you include the chalice dungeons bosses it makes it even worse. ERs remembrance bosses both in the base game and dlc absolutely sweep and it’s not close. Complaining that you can’t attack frequently enough says everything I need to know about your fundamental understanding of the games mechanics and combat flow.
Combat flow of ER is ass. It's 99% waiting for a boss to do the right move and 1% pressing L2. Very fun.
@ bro ur trash and that’s ok😉
I agree with you on the most points except the last one. There are some kind unfair bosses with their attack chains or other gimmicks (self healing Malenia..).
@@LzrsRsn low tier bait chief
@@LzrsRsnlet’s see your game footage lol… guarentee your missing probably 99% of the openings the bosses hand you on a silver platter
I agreed with most of this list and really enjoyed watching your video. But the only thing I disagreed with is putting BB over ER. Bloodborne base game was filled with some pretty lackluster bosses and was saved only by the DLC. And even then a few DLC bosses cant earn it a spot higher than a game filled with lots of really good bosses. Other than that I agree with all of your list.
no way you ranked dark souls 3 bosses over elden ring and sekiro wtf. Lets just take it for a moment, half of the ds3 bosses are mid while the other half are good, but ds3 doesn't have many bosses.
Like take greatwood, deacons, aldritch, yhrom, ancient wyvern greatwolf etc etc. The good bosses in ds3 are gael friede midir demon prince nameless king SoC gundyr pontiff abyss watchers and lorian and lothric. I agree these bosses are really good, but elden ring has twice as many bosses comparable to these bosses, margit godrick morgott radahn maliketh godfrey radagon malenia mohg rellana midra pcr romina messmer bayle placidusax etc etc.
Still I'd understand this opinion because elden ring has many flawed bosses, and some of these bosses are tough to beginners and feel unfair, but now that i have got gud i enjoy every one of these bosses. But what i don't understand is Sekiro? I have done mortal journey in sekiro and i can say that sekiro has the most perfect boss lineup ever (except headless ape screw that). These bosses just feel so perfect once you get good and i cant name a single terrible boss among them other than headless ape
I just wanna state how fair sekiro bosses are, if they weren't this fair i wouldn't have completed mortal journey, there is a reason only sekiro has a boss rush. even the seemingly terrible guardian ape and true monk are fair fights once you git gud. Lady butterfly is hated but i find all her attacks fair except the summons but you can remove summons with snap seeds and consumables are infinite in gauntlets so thats not a challenge either. Only headless ape is a true terrible boss in this game . Divine dragon and monkeys are spectacle and puzzle bosses, they are a nice detour and fromsoft acknowledged that they aren't true bosses by not keeping them in gauntlets. I haven't played bloodborne due to the evil playstation so i cant give my opinions about that yet
Id pick Dark Souls 1 bosses over Bloodborne bosses anytime
The DS2 delusion is real.
In what world is DS2 dead last? 🤦♂️
DS2 deserves to be in dead last.
@@RipVanWinkleJr again, the delusion is real. Its not only trendy to hate on DS2, but half you clowns have never even played it
@EldenLord555 I have played it. I bought it Scholar of the First Sin shortly after beating buying DS1 and beating it twice in a row. Went in with low expectations and was still disappointed. I got about halfway through the game before I gave up because of how unbearable it was. It wasn't even because of difficulty. I sat down for hours to beat promised consort "normally." I've platinumed Elden Ring, Sekiro, Bloodborne, and DS1. I just couldn't beat DS2. The gameplay was slow and boring. The dodging was the worst in the soul series. The hitboxes for both the enemies and players were just not good. The game didn't have the charm of DS1 and was somehow more clunky than a game made years before it. I really tried to like it and I will beat it oneday. In my opinion, it just isn't good. I'm not trying to he trendy. It's the only soulsgame that I just didn't want to keep on playing. You're allowed to like it but just know: Most people don't.
@@RipVanWinkleJr You have to level up adaptability to increase your animation speeds and number of I-frames. This will make the combat feel less “clunky”. I promise, it isn’t as janky as DS1 once you understand it.
DS2 is a weird, experimental game. It introduced some of the coolest mechanics to the franchise. Mechanics that were later abandoned in DS3, making for a much blander experience. Things like Power Stancing, Bonfire Ascetics, limited enemy spawns, and NG+ boss remixes.
People are too easily influenced. I’ve just met far too many people (especially newer souls fans) completely write off DS2 having never played it. Or people’s opinions be impacted by the negative press, shaping their perception of the game. You have to remember, DS2 was loved at launch, scoring critically higher than DS1. It wasn’t until a popular TH-cam “think piece” caused major damage to its reputation, leading to a very vocal community of DS2 haters.
Like my original comment said. In no world is DS2 dead last, behind DEMONS SOULS. Half of Demons Souls bosses are mediocre puzzles. And the ones that aren’t puzzles, are simply poor bosses.
@EldenLord555 My adaptability was higher than any other stat. I will edmit, some mechanics I absolutely loved, but the bad outweighed the good for me.
Dark Souls 2 has objectively way better overall bosses than Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls. Maybe even Bloodborne.
lol definitely not bloodborne
@PotatoMan518 ohh youre smoking that good stuff ahahaha
thank you. dark souls 1's bosses are hot garbage aside from manus and artorias.
Another person who doesn't know what the word "objectively" means
@matheusbecker2351 op used the word correctly. the bosses of ds2 are more consistent and of higher quality than ds1 bosses.
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i love elden ring and its my favorite game but i completely agree with you on the elden ring take. yeah messmer, midra, maliketh, and bayle are some of my favorite bosses in the series but factoring in the regular enemies with a boss healthbar which outnumber the amazing ones by a lot leads to a worse score than the top 3. i wish we got a good duo boss tho, lets hope nightreign delivers
When talking bout boss quality you dont consider level design so ds 2 definitely outclasses ds 1 and deS, like look im a souls veteran my first game was ds1 prepare to die edition but is fighting 3 asylum demon reskins really that fun or every other boss being a gimmick one, atleast the bosses in ds 2 actually require skills
Outside of the dlc none of the fights are hard. Love all of these games for different reasons and bosses are mostly mid at best.
Only Boss Quality
1. Elden Ring (DLC put it over Sekiro for me)
2. Sekiro (debatably #1)
3. DS3
4. Bloodborne (Gets carried by DLC)
5. DS2
6. DS1
7. DeS
The glaze on bloodborne and ds3 here is almost illegal an crazy
@@guywithuke DS3 had the best bosses, Bloodborne definitively not.
DS3 arguably has the best bosses in the series, BB Arguably has the second worst
@@chickensofdeath490Elden Ring bosses are just DS3 bosses on steroids, it should be higher on the ranking.
@@jvfe287 most ER bosses felt over the top and not in a good way
@@kdecker65I disagree. People thought the same thing when DS3 releasead, "Bloodborne bosses with DS1 movement" was some of the criticism.
The reality is From Software is desperately trying to evolve the souls's combat with each new game, so things are going to get progressively more complex or they can return to their roots and make a game like DS1, where the difficulty comes from the level design instead of the bosses. Either way, some people are not going to like it.
Bloodborne very low lows and yet it was put over Elden ring which has somewhat low lows
Bloodborne lows = demon souls lows < ds2 lows
@@skinless5136Never ending hatred.
For me elden ring has the lowest of the lows, and it lasts forever because of how many bosses there are, and how much bigger of a game it is.
@TrevorVeillette comoletely agreed, but I do think it has the highest highs.
@@RipVanWinkleJr for me bloodborne and dark souls 3 have the highest highs. Placidusax is definitely in my top 5 for highest highs in fromsofts games though.
I'd put lady maria, Ludwig, slave knight Gael, placidusax, and midir as my top 5 fromsoft bosses.
My favorite type of boss is the quick female duelist type. Lady maria (my favorite fromsoft boss), friede, malenia, those type of bosses.
The only reason I don't put friede and malenia in my top 5 then is because I think their fights are essentially lesser versions of lady maria.
It's odd that she's the first of her type, yet she's the best still. But friede has too much 3rd phase aoe that's ridiculous to dodge + her fast moveset, and her 1st and 2nd phase drag the fight but are conceptually cool.
Malenia suffers by having the BS waterfowl move, and a less aggressive and flashy moveset compared to both the other ladies.
Also friede and malenia both have very boring boss music compared to lady maria.
Malenias actually feels like a ripoff of Maria's, but without much action. Pretty sure its the same composer.
They're all great, but Maria's only actual issue is that she's easy. Everything else about her is flawless. She's got the most fun moveset of any boss to dance with for me. Her fight is one of the few that actually feels like a dance of skill between a boss and the player. Its so back and forth, so aggressive on both sides, flashy moves from both, one of the best OST and best boss rooms in the franchise, one of the coolest boss weapons, blood + flame magic combo.
The whole fight drips with style. To me lady maria is peak fromsoftware (along with Gael, gaels fight is just beautiful), and the old hunters is still fromsofts best dlc imo, and the hunters nightmare is one of the best areas in the franchise (honestly I also count the clocktower and hamlet as being part of the nightmare, it's all the same zone to me)
Oh and the hunters nightmare is the best fromsoftware art direction ever. That walk through the tunnel that reveals the clocktower in the distance with the strange sky as a backdrop, perfect. That has to be the single best view in fromsofts games, and it's of an area designed to be nightmarishly ugly and sinful.
I agree mostly, Sekiro has best boss fight in any game and amazing combat system, but DS3 bosses are almost all like pieces of art
Videazo bro, te mereces muchos mas subcriptores con esta calidad de contenido
No way you actually put Bloodborne above Dark Souls and Elden Ring
Dark Souls makes sense. Elden Ring and Bloodbornes boss quality are interchangeable for me.
ds1 has dog shit bosses its understandable ngl
it does have cool bosses tho like artorias manus and o and s
@@Salloom0 Kalameet and Gwyn are also really good imo
Dark souls remastered was my first souls game so it holds a special spot but have to say elden ring is much better and can't play Bloodborne since I don't have a PS5
DS3 bosses are so peak when you ignore the 50% of them that are dogshit to mid
The bad ones arent that many
@vit-t680 Curse-rotted Greatwood, Crystal Sage, Deacons of the Deep, High Lord Wolnir, Yhorm, Ancient Wyvern, Champion's Gravetender, and Halflight are all dogshit and make up about 1/3 of the roster. Add on mid bosses like Iudex Gundyr, Vordt, Old Demon King, Aldrich, and Oceiros, and that's 52% of all main bosses in the game being bad or mediocre. That's means that less than half of the games bosses are actually great quality
Agreed. Almost the entire early game and roughly 1/3 of the game's total bosses are bad gimmick fights. And it's not even that I inherently think gimmick bosses are bad, it's that all of the gimmick bosses in DS3 are worse versions of Demon's Souls bosses.
So true. Lowkey people forget how garbage the first half of the game is right up until pontiff.
@@jamesbell1186 vordt, iudex and old king are straight up good, crystal and yhorm are ok
people be doing anything to hate on Elden ring, you literally said how you dont like the aggressiveness of elden ring bosses yet you love isshin's aggressive move set?, you also said curse-rotted great wood was "not to bad", nobody and i mean NOBODY actually enjoyed that fight, its entire purpose is to be a first time every playthrough fight that's just there cause it can be, im not saying the other souls games are bad because they definitely aren't, but to sit there and rank easily the best overall fromsoft game in 4 because you got skill checked on most bosses and weren't just free fights is insane, might be the coldest take list i've ever seen
There is a huge difference in the aggressiveness between ER and Sekiro. In ER the aggressiveness of the bosses just drags the fight longer, because while you're dodging, you're not inflicting damage, thus not progressing the fight. In Sekiro, you are constantly deflecting and by that you're breaking the enemy's posture.
Pretty sure not to bad means okay, not a good nor bad time. A bad boss is the valiant gargoyles that you have an actively bad time fighting.
Elden rings boss design vs Isshin's is not comparable at all lmao. Sekiro's combat is suited for fast combat, stolen dark souls combat is not. Use your head. Also let me be the first to debunk your theory on Curse-rotted Greatwood, because I found him more enjoyable than most elden ring bosses because it wasn't overly aggressive. Doesn't mean that I didn't die on him or any other boss in DS3 and bosses in other previous Soulsborne games, but they were fair, something I can't say for elden rings roster
deal with it
@@davidborne_1.0”stolen dark souls combat” when it literally has more innovation then all of bloodborne in 2 fighrs
Buen video, lo unico que creo es que ER deberia estar en el top 3 y Bloodborn en el puesto 4. Por puro gusto personal
I think if we consider just major boss quality elden ring is number one which i mean of course remembrance bosses + bayle
Elden ring is too low, and no way BB is higher.
Going back to Dark Souls 3 after Elden Ring you realise how basic the bosses are. Midra lowkey reminds me of the Nameless King actually with his slow, highly telegraphed but deadly attacks. I think all remembrances bosses in Elden Ring and even the worse one (Metyr in my opinion she has great lore, atmosphere and most of her moveset is ok) are all at least B tier imo.
People are too hung up on nostalgia biases. I replay most of these games for at least 3x each just to see if I also have biases. Elden Ring is the biggest FromSoftware game and there's a reason for it. Currently playing Bloodborne and I'm enjoying it but I honestly enjoyed DS2 early game more than this. Maybe I just expected too much since everyone is calling it a masterpiece but every bosses felt like they had the same formula for movesets and I haven't really went so far to learn any movesets at all. Just defeated Blood-Starved Beast and it almost had the exact same patterns. Logged out a bit because it was getting too stale honestly.
@@zubleo8590 I played Ds3 after ER and i enjoyed most of the bosses more, people give ER way more credit than it deserves for being complex, 99% of bosses in that game i could get away with fighting it the same exact way i fought Ds3 bosses. Just hug it and walk in a circle around it. Almost every attack can easily be rolled through.
Also i think ER made delayed attacks feel way less special, it went from DS3 nameless king "This is cool" to every ER boss being "This again..."
I don’t think a boss being telegraphed is a bad thing tbh, it rewards paying attention and being engaged over rote memorization.
10:48 Very little time for counter attacks? Well yeah if you think these bosses are like sekiro, most of the time you can just trade ur heavy blow with their weak attacks or just use a shield and the gates to Guard counter.
They're agressive but so are you can and you get greatly rewarded for matching their agression.
When you want to prefectly play the fight as if it's sekiro or dark souls that's 1 thing, but the moment you realize I have a big ass sword and a ton of HP or a Katana with a strong ash of war and you can keep up the agression by trading blows and getting those guard breaks and even if that isn't ur style these bosses have a lot of openings but it may take a while to realize you can jump heavy an attack or just walk a little to the side rather then a roll.
The only bosses where I share the same views as this guy are Morgott and especially Rellana.
Ds3 has the best bosses in the history of soulsborne Imo with Elden Ring being a close second. Though I can def see a case for sekiro being ranked above Elden Ring as it does come down to preference/opinion.