Hi there! I don't play Need for speed carbon for a very long time but manual gearbox will increase top speed in any car, and i never really noticed any difference between low RPM or high RPM, nice vid btw!
Yup, youre faster in manual always, I was just not sure if mby using manual with clutch could get better acceleration on turbo. Thanks for confirmation!
@@babiniu you're welcome! Also unfortunately manual gearbox with clutch doesn't seems to make any difference in carbon :I only on prostreet makes a very noticeable difference when shifting gears, looking forward for more vids!
I love how on the Corvette when using nitrous the transmission can't keep up with the gear changes and just fucking breaks, lmao
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That was very useful Thanks for making content for NFS Carbon in 2024 I got to play the game after a long time, and im trying to explore the most of the game
this is a bit weird. because a few years ago i could clearly feel the difference between a torque upgrade engine + turbo than a horsepower engine + turbo. but anyways, thanks for the comparison :)
Because u twisting 2 things. Its not that turbo changing something, its engine that was changing stuff. Check part 1 of vid in description. Torque give u less speed and less acceleration, than horsepower
upgrades in this game is quite broken, in evo if i remember if you install suspension, you'll hurt its accel, so most people recommends it to just leave suspension upgrades alone
For all tuners leaving the stock suspension on almost always works fine, some like the skyline or the 240 sx maybe if you don’t get used to it it’s better to install it as they understeer a bit in tight corners, or some with front wheel drive like the eclipse or the r32, the rest is just leaving it stock. In the case of the evo, just install the engine and the nitro, you can install the rims but they won’t really make a difference, same as the turbo, unless you want to hear the sound of the shift in each gear, stock works fine. If you use Colin as a partner, for Radar races, you can install top speed transmission for more points.
Ye it was rly problematic video and I changed what I should add or remove many times. Im glad you like it! Part 3 with suspension tyres and breaks should be by end of this month, so stay tuned!
Actual serious summary: When tuning the transmission, choose top speed When tuning the NOS, choose velocity When tuning the turbo, choose whatever you want, the difference in tuning is practically insignificant EDIT at the request of @babiniu: don't focus too much on top speed, as the game's not really designed around it
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious YEES, only what I would add is to not focus that much on buying transmission, as top speed is not that important because there are not so many roads where u reach anything close to top speed. Thanks for good summary
From my experience, manual transmission is a lot faster for a simple reason: When using automatic, cars cannot go beyond "redline". By redline, i mean the rpm where the rev counter goes red. Your engine will only hit actual redline ~1000 rpms higher in this game, or more, using manual. Because of that, when reaching top speed, automatic transmission will get stuck at "redline", while you can push to the actual redline if you're running manual. That can make a difference of up to 50kph in top speed for some cars. Second reason is, cars generally feel a lot more powerful at higher revs in this game. Shifting early feels very sluggish. Almost as if the car was about to stall every time you shift. That problem is eliminated by shifting a bit later, which cannot be done with automatic. That being said, tuning your engine towards "power" and turbo/supercharger towards "high rpm" further synergizes with this "late shifting" style, making a big difference in acceleration. (also, late shifting with torque and low rpm tuning feels horrendous) Again, a difference that cannot be felt when using automatic transmission.
@@vroomguyx I was asking about acceleration, my point was that mby somehow stock would be faster than tuned when on automatic, but slower on manual. I know about top speed stuff
Honestly, i found some differnces. E.g when using the elise, i tuned the turbo towards low rpm and i had good initail accleration but the car sytuggled past 285 km/h for some reason. Even tho the car was fully upgraded. Then i went for high rpm, the elise then acclerated tad bit slower but it had good constant power in higher gears and was abe to reach 320 km/h without Nos. I play in manaul as well, as the car revs higher. But in low rpm the car just could reach red line past 4th gear.
I remember as i kid i tuned the viper to rev as low as possible it maybe reved to less than 5k rpm, i maxed engine tourque, acceleration for transmission and low for turbo/supercharger
@@scratchbakakunuwu669 ooh I cant check if on ps2 it works differently sadly, it is a little bit different version than pc/x360 version so it is possible that it works differently
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious Aaah okii, I just dont want to ppl see it that simple, when tuning is quite complicated thing in this game bcs of how many mistakes are in game code. Thanks for clarification
automatic trans in Carbon shifts way too early, and with engine upgrades you definitely notice a lot of top end power so shifting past the redline is ideal for max speed & keeping the engine rpms up. It is not as you blow the engine in game anyways...
In case of transmission, sometimes its better to leave it at stock (in elise for example speedrunners dont upgrade it iirc). Other than that, yes, all above is correct
@@DraL1on If you want accelerate faster, then avoid transmission and suspension, other than that there is not really that much, but I can leave u with something that can help with other cars: www.speedrun.com/nfsc/guides/re8ts Link to speedrunner guide, I think its quite helpful when u tune your cars, hope that helps a little
Ok damn i gave it a little reading, so what im getting is that engine - horsepower on all cars// transmission unless u care about top speed leave it at stock// suspension unless u care for more handling leave it at stock (if u do upgrade suspension there are specific steps for each car.)// nitrous always - velocity// tires and brakes dont rly matter best leave it at middle both// turbo best middle unless u can keep high speeds put it on high rpms. So.. did i get it right ? Sorry for writing whole essay haha :D
@@sgr.2011 there will be for junkman in the future. Other than that there is not much setting to change, or that might suprise. Only transmission upgrades sometimes reducing top speed but I covered that in shorts vid (viper and Ford gt)
I heard that max ride height should be +5 because it results in less speed loss on bumps without any downsides, also I personally go aero +5 on all cars , but tbf u got me thinking about these differences a little bit more. Maaybe there will be video about this if I get scenario for smth longer than few lines of text haha
Oh wait, I might ruin smth when changed some settings today, ill try to fix it in a moment. Edit: Check now, it should be fine, also thanks for feedback!
While this is informative, I think the comparison based only on speed on straight road doesn't show the full story. Some test for torque is also needed. Like coming out of a corner or time taken to reach a certain speed that is not near top speed.
Differences would be barely noticable in corners and if you would use full lap to show difference in time u still cant drive same lap same way as u did before in previous settings. Even f1 drivers cant perform over and over same laps. But hey if there is smth like in mario where u can add imputs frame by frame to show best time possible then ill be happy to test it again! Not sure what do u mean about reaching certain speed that is not near top speed, u have acceleration test in video where I go from 0 to x, its not near top speed, also u can pause on frames that u want, to see differences in speed
And u didn't notice that transmission can slower your car, or when u choose acceleration it doesnt increase it compared to top speed setting? Where it's doing what it should be doing aka increase acceration? Or im missing smth?
@@babiniu now that you explained it, i understood better than the video, basically acceleration slider is broken, and acts as stock. while top speed slider does what it should do.
Hi there! I don't play Need for speed carbon for a very long time but manual gearbox will increase top speed in any car, and i never really noticed any difference between low RPM or high RPM, nice vid btw!
Yup, youre faster in manual always, I was just not sure if mby using manual with clutch could get better acceleration on turbo. Thanks for confirmation!
@@babiniu you're welcome! Also unfortunately manual gearbox with clutch doesn't seems to make any difference in carbon :I only on prostreet makes a very noticeable difference when shifting gears, looking forward for more vids!
Still play carbon to this day, and never paid much attention to the difference to the performance parts when upgrading my car. Great video!
I love how on the Corvette when using nitrous the transmission can't keep up with the gear changes and just fucking breaks, lmao
That was very useful
Thanks for making content for NFS Carbon in 2024
I got to play the game after a long time, and im trying to explore the most of the game
Remember to add some mods after u finish game, so it will feel fresh again!
this is a bit weird. because a few years ago i could clearly feel the difference between a torque upgrade engine + turbo than a horsepower engine + turbo.
but anyways, thanks for the comparison :)
Because u twisting 2 things. Its not that turbo changing something, its engine that was changing stuff. Check part 1 of vid in description. Torque give u less speed and less acceleration, than horsepower
upgrades in this game is quite broken, in evo if i remember if you install suspension, you'll hurt its accel, so most people recommends it to just leave suspension upgrades alone
For all tuners leaving the stock suspension on almost always works fine, some like the skyline or the 240 sx maybe if you don’t get used to it it’s better to install it as they understeer a bit in tight corners, or some with front wheel drive like the eclipse or the r32, the rest is just leaving it stock. In the case of the evo, just install the engine and the nitro, you can install the rims but they won’t really make a difference, same as the turbo, unless you want to hear the sound of the shift in each gear, stock works fine. If you use Colin as a partner, for Radar races, you can install top speed transmission for more points.
Hey bro, this tests were pretty cool to see and i didnt know most of that stuff. Nice vid
Ye it was rly problematic video and I changed what I should add or remove many times. Im glad you like it! Part 3 with suspension tyres and breaks should be by end of this month, so stay tuned!
Actual serious summary:
When tuning the transmission, choose top speed
When tuning the NOS, choose velocity
When tuning the turbo, choose whatever you want, the difference in tuning is practically insignificant
EDIT at the request of @babiniu: don't focus too much on top speed, as the game's not really designed around it
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious YEES, only what I would add is to not focus that much on buying transmission, as top speed is not that important because there are not so many roads where u reach anything close to top speed. Thanks for good summary
What about brakes and tires? What should i choose to keep the car stick to road? @@babiniu
From my experience, manual transmission is a lot faster for a simple reason:
When using automatic, cars cannot go beyond "redline". By redline, i mean the rpm where the rev counter goes red. Your engine will only hit actual redline ~1000 rpms higher in this game, or more, using manual.
Because of that, when reaching top speed, automatic transmission will get stuck at "redline", while you can push to the actual redline if you're running manual.
That can make a difference of up to 50kph in top speed for some cars.
Second reason is, cars generally feel a lot more powerful at higher revs in this game. Shifting early feels very sluggish. Almost as if the car was about to stall every time you shift.
That problem is eliminated by shifting a bit later, which cannot be done with automatic.
That being said, tuning your engine towards "power" and turbo/supercharger towards "high rpm" further synergizes with this "late shifting" style, making a big difference in acceleration.
(also, late shifting with torque and low rpm tuning feels horrendous)
Again, a difference that cannot be felt when using automatic transmission.
manual transmission is better because you can change gears at a higher rev, unlike the automatic transmission which shifts way too early.
Is transmission upgrade make car slower on manual too?
@@babiniu Manual transmission gives you access to higher RPMs, so you technically get higher top speeds.
@@vroomguyx I was asking about acceleration, my point was that mby somehow stock would be faster than tuned when on automatic, but slower on manual. I know about top speed stuff
@@babiniu For speedrunning, we also use manual(+ clutch!) to keep more speed from jumps (along with speedbreaker, depending on the jump)
Shitfs at redline but i modified the games redline to be just a tag bit
great video, brotha!
Thank you!
Honestly, i found some differnces.
E.g when using the elise, i tuned the turbo towards low rpm and i had good initail accleration but the car sytuggled past 285 km/h for some reason. Even tho the car was fully upgraded.
Then i went for high rpm, the elise then acclerated tad bit slower but it had good constant power in higher gears and was abe to reach 320 km/h without Nos.
I play in manaul as well, as the car revs higher.
But in low rpm the car just could reach red line past 4th gear.
Interesting, I thought I will see some differences before 300 speed range, cool!
I remember as i kid i tuned the viper to rev as low as possible it maybe reved to less than 5k rpm, i maxed engine tourque, acceleration for transmission and low for turbo/supercharger
Tbf i always changed settings on transmition to give it better accelaration on muscle cars and it always worked nicenlly.
if u didnt use any mods, then confirmation bias kicked in there. Some mods might fix tuning stuff (for example cbr had fixed nitrous tuning)
@@babiniu Well no- i did on Vanilla NFS Carbon when the CD worked on my PS2, y'know?.
@@scratchbakakunuwu669 ooh I cant check if on ps2 it works differently sadly, it is a little bit different version than pc/x360 version so it is possible that it works differently
@@babiniu it does, the car feels like a rocket even on stock. Both for Viper and Corvette Z06
Summarizing: choose every setting that has "speed" written on it
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@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious ??????? Thats quite terrible summary
@@babiniu that was the idea, the research for the video (the testing, actually) was preety well made and my intention is not to neglect it all
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious Aaah okii, I just dont want to ppl see it that simple, when tuning is quite complicated thing in this game bcs of how many mistakes are in game code. Thanks for clarification
automatic trans in Carbon shifts way too early, and with engine upgrades you definitely notice a lot of top end power so shifting past the redline is ideal for max speed & keeping the engine rpms up. It is not as you blow the engine in game anyways...
So what you are saying is, tune engine to full horsepower, nitrous to full velocity and all the rest just leave it in the middle ?
In case of transmission, sometimes its better to leave it at stock (in elise for example speedrunners dont upgrade it iirc). Other than that, yes, all above is correct
Okay thanks, I'm asking for Mitsubishi Evolution btw, any tip for tuning on this specific car ?
It's my favorite.
@@DraL1on If you want accelerate faster, then avoid transmission and suspension, other than that there is not really that much, but I can leave u with something that can help with other cars: www.speedrun.com/nfsc/guides/re8ts
Link to speedrunner guide, I think its quite helpful when u tune your cars, hope that helps a little
Ok thanks bro !
Ok damn i gave it a little reading, so what im getting is that engine - horsepower on all cars// transmission unless u care about top speed leave it at stock// suspension unless u care for more handling leave it at stock (if u do upgrade suspension there are specific steps for each car.)// nitrous always - velocity// tires and brakes dont rly matter best leave it at middle both// turbo best middle unless u can keep high speeds put it on high rpms.
So.. did i get it right ?
Sorry for writing whole essay haha :D
Do you have car tuning video for nfsmw?
@@sgr.2011 there will be for junkman in the future. Other than that there is not much setting to change, or that might suprise. Only transmission upgrades sometimes reducing top speed but I covered that in shorts vid (viper and Ford gt)
@@babiniu so you say I shouldnt change the sliders?
I heard that max ride height should be +5 because it results in less speed loss on bumps without any downsides, also I personally go aero +5 on all cars , but tbf u got me thinking about these differences a little bit more. Maaybe there will be video about this if I get scenario for smth longer than few lines of text haha
i cannot read the conclusion at the end of the video because of the video recommendation...
Oh wait, I might ruin smth when changed some settings today, ill try to fix it in a moment.
Edit: Check now, it should be fine, also thanks for feedback!
@@babiniu yes it works now! tysm
edit: good music taste :p
Thanks man! It's something that im trying to learn what can fit and what not in background, im glad that u liked it!
@@babiniu nfsc and nfsmw ost is always great
ok and what about the handling?
It's a little bit tricky to make that video, but it should be before end of this month for sure!
While this is informative, I think the comparison based only on speed on straight road doesn't show the full story. Some test for torque is also needed. Like coming out of a corner or time taken to reach a certain speed that is not near top speed.
Differences would be barely noticable in corners and if you would use full lap to show difference in time u still cant drive same lap same way as u did before in previous settings. Even f1 drivers cant perform over and over same laps. But hey if there is smth like in mario where u can add imputs frame by frame to show best time possible then ill be happy to test it again!
Not sure what do u mean about reaching certain speed that is not near top speed, u have acceleration test in video where I go from 0 to x, its not near top speed, also u can pause on frames that u want, to see differences in speed
i don't see where's the surprise here in the slider doing what it said it should be doing, wasn't it obvious enough or something am not getting ?
@@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim ye u explained pretty well that u haven't watch even this video
@@babiniu i watched the first half of it and stopped to comment this
And u didn't notice that transmission can slower your car, or when u choose acceleration it doesnt increase it compared to top speed setting? Where it's doing what it should be doing aka increase acceration? Or im missing smth?
@@babiniu now that you explained it, i understood better than the video,
basically
acceleration slider is broken, and acts as stock.
while top speed slider does what it should do.
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim so what about neutral slider? Do u think it's broken?
what's the bgm name?
Feel the rush - Junkie XL remix
00:00 Feel the rush - Junkie XL remix
04:27 Grandmaster flash & furious five - scorpio
05:52 Tigarah - Girl Fight
>I used automatic gearbox
didn't watch furhter
Tuning setting will work same way no mater manual or automatic (aka it its broken for both manual and automatic)