Extreme caution___watch this before you turn the wood
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2023
- I gotta say this , I see a lot of TH-cam videos where turners turn bowl with big splits and cracks and admire it... Its a bad habit and practice to promote turning stuff with dangerous defects.... PLEASE BE CAREFULL AND YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY...USE WHAT EVER OF SAFETY GEAR THAT IS AVAILABLE TO YOU....
BUT NO GEAR WILL EVER SUBSTITUTE COMMON SENSE....
STAY SAFE
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When I started turning an old woodturner told me "Just remember that accidents are over before you relalise they are happening". I discovered he was right a few times.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
That is true😉 thank you Brendan
This is a good reminder, especially for turners who use found wood and spalted wood. My face shield has been gathering dust and I think it’s time to start using it again. I’m glad you weren’t hurt!
This is one of the hardest lessons to learn in wood turning. I am thankful that whenever I have had something come off the lathe I have not been injured, but it is easy to forget how dangerous wood turning can be. Thank for sharing, and I am grateful you were not hurt.
Thank you sir, all is fine and stuff like this happens but of someone learns from my mistake I'm happy....😀
I always position my on off switch on the right hand side of the lathe, partly for this reason. If anything goes wrong, I want to move away from the wood to turn the lathe off, not be in the firing line. Glad you are ok and thanks for posting this and all your other videos.
Thank you for watching 🤗
Had same thing happen . Oak platter separated , 1500 rpm , way too fast, standing directly in firing line initially, hit four inches above left wrist deformed but not broken. My fault completely. Wood had splits, I was standing directly in the firing line. Felt link someone hit my arm with the full swing of a baseball bat. Hospital, physical therapy, angry wife. Definitely not worth it. Very glad you’re alright Tomislav. Thank you for posting this Safety Video.
Hello Tomislav, this video is important for me. I am the one that turns whatever lousy scrap of everything… cracks included. Wood is expensive here where I live and it makes me nervous to waste even a piece.
I had some things breaking and flying away. Up to now I managed to stay away from the fire line and I have not been hit, but I would not bet this luck would last. I always have a face shield on.
The most surprising and scary cracks were for resin pouches that created a longitudinal crack. Basically a crack that runs in the same direction of the diameter.
The bowl literally exploded, I have found pieces everywhere.
There are other sources of wood, here is expensive as well but I would really suggest to stay away from cracks and splits , it only need ones to be bad.... Just me safe and take good care what goes on the lathe 😀
I am thinking to assemble a drying box, so I can harvest my own wood and be in control of the costs of it. I could rough turn the pieces and then allow them to dry in the box. Any idea about an easy model for this?
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Thank for sharing! I am very grateful you were not hurt.
Thank you, all is good😉
I am glad you weren't injured at all. It is plain in the video clip that you were badly shaken. That would even scare Richard Raffan, I reckon. On the up side, you could probably get two small bowls our of the larger fragment and a usable it of firewood from the other fragment, so all isn't lost, mate. See you in your next video, Tomislav.
They are already rough turned🤗 it was a bit jumpy but in my woodworking carrer I've seen a lot of stuff so I was not that shaken but it did remind me of my rule which I broke on this piece no to check for the splits..... Thank you sir for comment and watching 🤗
Good advice and graphic illustration. Glad you weren't hurt; your guardian angel was doing double duty that day. 😀 Thanks for posting; this was a very good reminder.
Glad to be able to help out a fellow turner, not to make a mistake I have.... Thank you for watching
My first bowl exploded. I'm humbled by the experience. It is going to be much harder to find wood to turn if I can't use split lumber. Thanks for the warning. I listened.
Please be aware as I see way to much on Facebook groups and TH-cam how they use Split lumber.... Its russian roulet with splits, and other thing is that it will shorter the life of your piece.... Rather spend time on solid blank without splits and have a piece turned to be for decades.... Thank you for watching
thank you my friend its to easy to not be observant especially when its just a hobby and its just a little crack. glad you were not hurt and once again thanks for the reminder.
Glad to be able to help out 👍
excellent lesson here. thank you for sharing and I'm glad you weren't hurt! Stay safe!!
Thank you👍
Whoops, those suck. I’m glad you are ok fine sir.
All fine sir,thank you for watching 🤗
Whew! Glad it wasn't worse. I can't stay clear of the wood when mounting but I do wear my face shield. This was a good lesson to check for problems before turning a piece.
Indeed Jay, the best safety measure is to check the wood that you put on☺️
Wow thats terrifying. Its also an argument for putting bowls on the lathe when the lathe is off then turning it on while standing off to the side! I do fill bowls with cracks on the rim, but not ones with splits on the bottom.
I had to release this video to help out and bring awarness on what can happen.... Like I Said this is first as I take great care to eliminate all the defects but as humans make mistakes so do I😅
It has happened tome and it’s scary. Glad you didn’t get hit. The reason I like my record envoy is that I can move the switch nearer so do not have to move past the bowl.
I can move switch around as well but I like to keep it in one place on the left as I always hold a tool in right....and I know where it is in every situation..... But use that feature if it helpes and be carefull.... Thank you for watching
Been there, done that! I had one blow apart while adjusting tool rest (yes, a no no when lathe is running, especially when I'm in the firing line). It hit me in the mouth hard enough to push my lower lip into my upper teeth creating a cut to that needed three stitches on inside of my lower lip! That's when I decided my reflexes are slower than wood exiting my lathe!
Ouch,glad you are ok, that is why I advocate to use solid wood without any cracks or splits.... Thanks for your input on this 👍
Very glad no injuries. Those chunks have caused stitches, near deaths, and at least one death that I can bring to mind. Lynne Yamaguchi nearly lost an eye and has severely reduced vision in that eye, and some cognitive issues. A turner named Joan Kelly ended up in the hospital and succumbed to, I think, blood loss and brain injuries.
Soon enough after I started turning bowls, a lovely chunk went flying past my head. Since then, I wear a polycarbonate (not! acetate!) face shield when roughing out bowls (and sometimes large long-grain; think urns). These shields are relatively inexpensive. At least in the US. A mere fraction of the cost of a trip to the emergency room. I was lucky with that first blow-up, back in the 90s.
Also fortuitous that you recorded the near catastrophe and have graciously unloaded yet another quality video!
Keep em coming.
Thank you, that can be quite dangerous
Wow! Glad you're OK
Thank you 👍
Доброго дня, Томислав. Именно поэтому я перенёс кнопку "Пуск" на правую сторону, чтобы при включении не стоять на линии огня. И недавно был аналогичный случай. Пролетело мимо. Так что видео актуально. Спасибо.
Glad you were ok..... Stuff happens to those who work....😉 Thank you for watching
Good advice, sir. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for watching 🤗
Today I was turning a 13 inch bowl on my powermatic 3520b when I got a bad catch using a scraper. I was turning the outside and using tailstock. I'm still not 100% sure what I did wrong, but.. it actually bent the screw in my vicmark 120mm chuck. I am guilty of being impatient... thanks for sharing this video!!!
Be carefull
Thanks for the warning! Glad you're okay. It gave me a bloody big shock and i can't imagine what it was like to be in your place.
It was to say the least interesting 😉 thank you for watching
Glad you were not hurt. Thanks for sharing. It's a good reminder for all.
Indeed...thank you
Thanks for sharing, mate. I'm grateful to hear that no one was injured. Stay safe out there everyone.
Thanks Kez😀
Yep i've had a few come off some, a good percent when almost finished with the work. Thanks for the heads up I notice you and Richard touch the spinning wood more than i am comfortable with and this one seemed to split just as you touched it of course thats not why it split but still makes me nervous.
This is my first blank after 17years of spindle work and 5 bowl work.... I take good care on selecting wood but as humans make mistakes so do I 😅
Touching the spining wood can be quite dangerous, especially if it drags your finger....I do it to in a way I sertant that is ok, that part comes with expirience and it saves me time when I do finishing work.... But I do not reccomend it.... Thank you very much for watching
Thanks for the warning! From now on, I will hit my piece 2 or 3 times on the bed to check its structure.
Thank you for sharing !
No problem....glad to help
Glad you were not hurt.
All good sir, it does look on video way worse then it is,but still a great lesson there ☺️
I did the same thing this morning with a piece of pear.
i took a bathroom break after. lol
Sorry to hear that, hope this will prevent someone to take uncontroled bathroom time.... Learn from my mistakes....
A very good safety warning. Very glad you weren't seriously hurt. It's a lovely figure on that blank, but not worth an injury.
Thank you Joris, all good luckily
Thank you for showing this
No problem 👍
Good advice!
Thanks 😀
So glad you were not hurt, that was a potentially very bad outcome. A good timely reminder to take care and use all safety gear. Greetings from Tasmania Australia 😢😬👍🇦🇺🦘
Indeed.... Thank you for your concern and support
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning -One thought came to mind, had you not put the wood on with the spindle so 'fast', it might have remained intact until you did a tighten up check with the piece stationary, as I see Richard do so often-maybe the difference between turning for a living and turning for teaching?? Easy for me to be wise after the event, but I am pleased you have shown this as I am sure many more of your viewers will take note and be extra careful. Stay safe my friend. My new lathe has its on/off & speed control on the tailstock side, which I think is a safer place for it. On the headstock one is really in the firing line in many instances, less so moving towards the tailstock. Just a thought for wood lathe manufacturers to perhaps have a think about.
I am left handed turner so I naturally start standing on the tailstock side of my lathe and I have have launched a few chunks of wood. I have been lucky so far. It is unsettling to have wood go flying when at the lathe. Good video!
Dan
Thank you Dan for your insight 😀
Very good advice! Thank you for sharing and glad you weren't hurt
Take care, Dave
Thank you Dave😉
That was a close one. Thanks for sharing and very thankful you did not get hurt.
Thank you Terry😉
Thanks.👍
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Thanks for sharing! Unrelated to splits, but I've found that voids in wood can become nasty finger traps when sanding.
It could yes, be carefull
Your work is my motivation 👍👍👍👍
Thank you, glad to hear that
Thank you for your honesty and capacity to put your teaching process first. It happens also to the best, and that's something everyone (and more so the beginners like me...) has to remember. So yes...take care and maybe slow down a little? Hope you will not suffer too much from the blow.
Thank you Boris, everything is fine.... After that I finish the rest of the bowls and the next day start again with roughing out..... It happens, but I wanna publish this so that anybody can see the dangers of splits and learn from my mistakes..... Thank you as always
Perhaps you should try mounting bowls with the lathe not spinning……?
Split was an issue, this mounting process didn't affect it.... If I would put that piece by hand on the spindle it would blow up when I turn it on.... The split was hidden and I didn't check it as I usually do....
So glad you weren’t hurt too bad, but I think you might have a fair size bruise where it hit you. Thanks for the safety video. Cheers, Tom
No bruise, its looking way worse then it is but good point to make and to be carefull what you put on the lathe.... cheers Tom , thank you for watching
Looking forward for you to get the package ☺️
So stinking scary. I have a Kevlar shop apron I wear.
Good gear to wear😉
You are very lucky that piece hit you in the torso and not in the face. I don't buy the idea that the piece came flying off "low" rather than "high" has to do with the spindle speed. The piece came off where it came off, and it could just as easily flown off and hit the wall behind the lathe or gone the other way and knocked out some of your teeth, regardless of rpm.
It's impossible to stay out of the "line of fire" 100% of the time, so I always wear a full face shield (and safety glasses) when turning green blanks because defects are hardest to see in chainsawn (or even bandsawn) surfaces, and just because there are no cracks in the end doesn't mean there aren't any in the middle.
It would be safer to wear a full shield all the time, but I confess I mostly do not for finish turning and smaller work.
One might think that the more we practice our craft, the safer we should be, and obviously to some extent that's true. But as we get faster and faster at repetitive tasks (like roughing out), we also get more vulnerable to having our attention wander - and that's when danger so often strikes.
Think of bowls as a propeler, the more the speed the more velosity and travel it will get.... That is why when I core out if the speed is low the core just gently comes down on the bed vs. high it will shot out high.... You are right about safety and face shields..... Thankfully some can learn from my mistake and prevent painfull day.... Thank you for comment and watching 🤗
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While the speed of anything that breaks loose is certainly proportional to the spindle speed, the direction in which a piece flies off is not.
If the fracture occurs when the piece is at the top (ie, the piece breaks off when it's at the 12 o-clock position) it will fly off horizontally toward you. If it's at 6 o-clock it will fly horizontally away from you. At 3 o-clock it will go straight up and maybe break an overhead lamp (don't ask me how I know that).
But if it's at about 1 or 2 o-clock, it will hit you right in the mouth if you're unlucky enough to be in the line or fire.
What happens to a core that is released when coring out is not the same as what happens to a piece that breaks loose from the periphery of a spinning blank. A core which breaks loose will just spin out and land on the bed. It might race around a bit if it's spinning real fast, because its motion (its energy) is rotational not linear, but that's about it.
The motion of a chunk breaking loose from the edge of a spinning blank will be linear, and anyone in the way will have a problem.
@@9thousandfeet Yes. This should be sticky posted or something. Where the chunk flies is nothing to do with the speed it is rotating at , once it STARTS OUT, it can go anywhere. However as it follows its trajectory , it will take a lower trajectory at lower speeds , which is where the "Myth" comes in to - However, standing directly in front of the piece like tom was, that close to the piece, like you said he could have been hit in the face, no matter what RPM it was spinning at. Lower RPM might have resulted in less damage (less kinetic energy) but still. It's like playing russian roulette by spinning the gun on your finger until the gun fires - where the gun is pointing when it fires determines where the bullet goes, after which gravity vs. kinetic energy takes over (resulting in trajectory). I have had bowls fly apart on me a couple times (one chunk just missed my ear and it was spinning at 600 RPM while I was sanding) but never had a fresh blank come apart because unlike Tom and others I have seen, I do NOT start a blank onto a screw chuck by running the lathe! I manually screw it on while lathe is stopped, then I give it a good tap with my gouge to test for any cracking BEFORE turning lathe on - Unless you have a perfectly flat face on the blank already, the screw chuck can actually cause the blank to split as it pulls the blank up to the face of the chuck....
Long story short, I agree with you entirely, and would never recommend anyone try to mount blanks to the lathe as Tom, and some other notable popular turners do. It only has to happen ONCE, and that ONCE might also be your last and only (because you could end up dead on the floor before anyone even realized anything was happening)
Hope you didn’t get hurt. Looked like it pegged you pretty good in the stomach area.
I have launched more objects into low earth orbit than NASA
I am glad you did not get hurt.
Frank
No turner were harm in making of this video😅
Wow! I'm always amazed at how when something goes wrong, it happens so quickly! In my many years of turning I've only had one bowl explode. I've had several become unchucked either by my hurrying, putting off sharpening or just a catch. Fortunately, only one trip to the emergency room for stitches.
Sorry to hear that, this is the reason I decided to publish this video....to help out someone to prevent ER....
Thank you for watching
Thank you for sharing this! Many people might be safer for it! Including me.
Glad to hear that 🤗
Omg. I hope all is ok!!
Yes it is,thank you 😀
Richard raffin never tolerates a crack in any bowl. Do you ever tolerate a crack and maybe use some CA glue or something else or are you in the same boat as Richard Raffin?
Same boat mate, I hardly ever fill cracks, only if its something small or maybe a bug hole then I do..... I wasn't paying attention to this piece , and this time get away with it.....
Luckily it went low, glad youre ok lad.
Thank you,all good...looks worse then it is on my side but good reminder on what can happen 😀
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