Let's not forget, Damar was the bad guy. A hardcore Dukat follower, critical of the Federation...and the man who murdered Ziyal. And yet, here he is, a hero. And it WORKS. THAT is good writing.
They took him from being just another Cardassian Goon under Dukat who shoots unarmed women in the back, to being effectively the salvation of The Alpha Quadrant. Even I wanted to shout "For Cardassia!" by the end.
It makes them all feel so... Human. It makes you realize they're not just all big scary soldiers, they all have lives outside of this. Apon further viewings, when watching this scene, I realized that... most of them are going to die in the next couple of minutes... it puts a sick, bittersweet feeling I'm the pit of my stomach, and almost puts a tear to my eye.
Garak: Here we are, about to storm the castle, willing to sacrifice our lives for the noble effort of slaying the dominion beast in its lair....and we can't even get inside the gates.... Kira: We could go up to the door and ask the Jem'Hadar to let us in... Damar: Why don't we just have them send the shapeshifter out to us....
@Th3D3ltaforc3 hello there, new to the internet jackass. Apparently, the concept of "drawing attention to the funniest part of the scene" has never dawned on you.
It's easy to miss, but the exchange between the Changeling and Weyoun must easily been the most significant in his (short) life. His god told him that she trusted him and that he has served her well. It reminds me of the Weyoun that died with Odo's blessing.
The moment with garak and kira... Sympathetic moment about family. He had hoped that one day he can return home and live in the place of his birth. He's seen the loss of his father and mother, plus the quantum destruction of his people. Yet he remained strong enough to carry out what he said he wanted to. Free his people and get a measure of revenge.
1:00 when Kira realizes that Garak was of the same mindset as her during the Bajoran Occupation. After everything that was taken from her, the thought of liberating Bajor was secondary to thoughts of revenge for all she lost, and here Garak was thinking the same way
We have a problem. Just one? I'm afraid it's a rather large problem .... The cargo door is made of neutronium. (*stunned look*) Then the explosives we brought aren't even gonna make a dent? You see the problem. I swear ..... I love Garak. his flip mouth gave me life watching DS9. 🤣🤣🤣
I definitely agree he was extremely pissed off at that moment knowing that the Dominion was responsible for both his parent's death. Crazy thought, even before I read the apocryphal book A Stitch in Time I always felt Mila was Garak's mother. While the book is not canon it makes sense given how close Mila and Garak were and how many Cardassian officers cheat on their wives.
@@measumadib mila wasn’t Garak’s mother nor Tain’s wife; she was a housekeeper who ensured the secrets within the household’s two upper echelon Obsidian Order agents stayed as secrets and did so for over three decades. But more accurately, she certainly was a maternal figure for Garak, just was never implied or intended to be his actual mother. We sort of see a hint of his feelings for her earlier in the series when Garak stands up for her as Tain implies that she might be on his list of potential assassinations in The Die Is Cast, too. This brings up another aspect of the military-employed Cardassian males in DS9 to consider; which is how their wives and families are never actually shown (besides a certain mixed-race and very plot-centric one of many of Dukat’s children) but rather referenced to or used as plot enhancement devices. There’s a lot of implications that Cardassian relations are either very open to relationships with other partners (on the husband side at least - Dukat and Damar) or perhaps that they aren’t stationed anywhere near the military-centric scenes so their relationships are more easily exploitable with other females. I’m not sure what the answer is though.
If someone told S1 Kira that she would, one day, not only help Cardassians, but help them right on the grounds of Cardassia, fight alongside them, and even share a genuine laugh with them... she'd probably upper-cutted the person in indignant fury. May you live in interesting times, right? lol
If nothing else, I must admire and respect Wayun for his unwavering dedication, loyalty, and love to the Founders, and I'm glad that he received her respect and, perhaps, her admiration in turn.
Aha! The one I've been searching for - THIS is the one with "my loyal Weyoun" moment. I love how the Founder is so selfless yet bitter about the plague that she's ready to take as much of the Alpha Quadrant with her as possible. I love that she would casually sacrifice the only solid she's ever trusted in a heartbeat if it would help, and that Weyoun would gladly let her. Two great moments in one post, thank you.
Fun fact: In the non-canon novelisation of "What You Leave Behind", the Breen did retreat after the Federation Alliance's forces had found a weak spot around their impulse engines. (And yes, a second battle in orbit of Cardassia Prime does take place in that one.)
The Breen were in the Dominions planetary fleet surrounding Cardassia prime when the alliance fleet arrived. And there were Breen at The Treaty of Bajor signing aboard Deep Space Nine.
@@FekLeyrTargnon-canon novels are exactly that, non-canon. There were Breen ships in the Dominion's defence perimeter fleet at Cardassia Prime when the alliance fleet arrived at Cardassia Prime. th-cam.com/video/LNC5_qCRdHI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bRQFVLbAPpTGBdAR
What I REALLY like is how, given the extreme gravity of their current situation, Garak adds humor to try to lighten the mood and give everyone else with them some much needed renewed hope/vigor. "Commander" Kira picked up on it right away, and after a few seconds even Damar picked up on it and played along. Absolutely GREAT writing, as well as acting.
I disagree. It is an absolutely normal reaction. Too much tension, too much drama, the body has to let the pressure go somehow, or it will explode. And that’s what makes this scene great, the genuity of it
@@lluisdemonermayans2157 You're absolutely correct dude. And I have to respectfully point out that I think you misunderstood what I meant with my comment. What you just said is exactly the point I was trying to make.
@@ValiantWrestling Star Trek has always been woke 🤷🏻♂️ Have you seen TOS? Yeah sure it’s less subtle in the new series but that’s what Star Trek is about. If anything, DS9 was a deviation from Gene Roddenberry’s original ideas, with darker tones and all. DS9 is still my favorite though. Would I deny that SNW is a good series? Absolutely not.
@@ValiantWrestling star trek was the wokest show in the 60s A black woman A russian A Japanese A Scottish All these in one show and as the main cast was incredibly woke for its time Difference is that star trek was better written and interesting. New trek siffer from gen z writing. The issue isn't woke its simply just terrible writing
I doubt Kira would have ever thought to be on Cardassia fighting for their freedom when once they had denied her people theirs that she would be with them and laughing at a somewhat hopeless yet critical situation. What is it they say a society has many shades and many facets from which a society is based. Well this is it. All of them equally were once brutal conquerors to just people fighting for what they believe regardless of who they're with.
And war makes for very strange bedfellows. Whether you like someone or even fundamentally agree with their politics may be entirely irrelevant. Just look at the US allying with the USSR in WWII to crush Germany, only for both to lean on their new German allies and "allies" in the Cold War. Or the Soviet military aid whose recipients resold it to the CIA who sold and gifted it to insurgents in the middle east who shot at US soldiers, possibly after a few more links in the ownership chain.
Those most be industrial-strength servos to open doors that heavy. --- Anyway... if the door is impenetrable (for all intents and purposes), that just means that the walls are weaker than the doors.
this show was criminally underrated back then and now still. Also,,,,,,, the dominion has the ability to produce neutronium … wow, not even the Borg have that technology
A touching moment for the Founder and her beloved servant. I wonder if a peace could have been brokered sooner, had the "Federation" had the cure readily available
It's hard to say, and the answer will differ from person to person. Me... I have a very low opinion of the Founders and I believe that they'd take the cure, sign a "peace" treaty and then immediately plot an apocalyptic retaliation. It would only take a matter of time for their territory to expand until within manual striking range of the Alpha/Beta Quadrant powers. And then, the true war would begin. Forgive me, I'm horrendously pessimistic.
@@LocksAndChains nothing wrong with that. People ask if the glass is half full or half empty. I ask what glass? The one shattered on the floor that I already stepped on and am bleeding from the sharp shards? But in all seriousness, what is stopping the Dominion from continuing anyway? The worm hole is still active. There is absolutely no way even the combined three powers could police the other side of the worm hole. Unless they would be severely monitored and any sort of build up near the worm hole would be reported immediately and some how the Alpha Quadrant could try and fight back. But nothing is stopping the Founders from saying, screw it. Odo can not control any of them, only suggest. Maybe there were more lenient voices in the goo and with Odo they would be peaceful. I do not know.
@@waxerwaer9700 Doesn't matter, they'd die in like 2 months anyway. They weren't gonna win in 2 months, and without them the Dominion would collapse in very short order probably.
@@floppydisksareop But if they hadn't been doomed to die, the founders would have likely attempted peace sooner. The founders strategy at the end was,"If we're going to die, we'll take all of you with us."
What I think is interesting is how similar The Babylon 5 and deep space story lines follow each other, they both have a dukat and they both have a Messiah like character. They both end with very similar Fates for the empires that are villainized. In Star Trek the cardassian cities are bombed. In Babylon 5 the centauri cities are bombed. In neither case do you feel any sort of satisfaction. Seeing both empires die as a result of battles between celestial beings is both terrifying. In Star Trek you have the prophets and the wraiths. In Babylon 5 you have the vorlons and the shadows. The show story lines follow very similar arcs.
"The only solid I have ever trusted" The irony being is that she would've sent that very Weyoun to be terminated had Damar not blown up the last Dominion cloning station in the Alpha Quadrant lol
I'm pretty sure my D&D group ran into a similar situation and we all started laughing at the exact same reason. Sometimes in dire situations when you run into an issue, all you can do is look at the situation and just laugh at the ridiculousness of it
See now, I have a problem with their problem. The door is made of neutronium. But surely that can't be true of the entire structure? Couldn't they blast through the wall NEAR the door, or maybe even come at it from below? A place like that has to have sewer access, or failing that, a septic tank. And given the futuristic nature of this city, that septic tank probably has an access area. What I'm saying is that the whole plan was thwarted due to a lack of imagination (and explosives).
A hilarious scene, and deep space nine is my favorite series; but as a member of the bojourn resistance kira should know you don't blow the door you blow the wall.
Thing I never understood, why were there so many ships in the defence perimeter that in all likelihood weren't fighting in the major battle they just lost?
Communication blackout remember Also its common military tactic to have reserves in case the first wave fails or another enemy units that either flanked their forces or broken through the lines
1:34 I think they wanted to do a fight here but the CGI cost back in the 90's was astronomical. The fight would have commenced, there would have been enormous losses on both sides, and Odo would have beamed down to link with the founder in more desperate circumstances. Instead, they had Odo beam down BEFORE the commencement of the space battle, thereby saving money for episode production, emphasizing the importance and final heroic contribution of Odo to the solids in the script, and completing Odo's story arc over the entire course of the show. This show was well done on many levels. People didn't appreciate it enough back in the 90's.
they detonated Lakarian City so they had WMDs. The Je'm Hadar ships also work in atmosphere so they bombed them from the air. Basically the only "safe" Cardassians were the ones in the fleet.
If they can make doors out of Neutronium,and it's like a indestructible material,why the heck they don't use a layers of that,on the ships hulls??? Poor writing...😅
A Door is a lot smaller than a Starship for one. Probably a lot easier to engineer and manufacture to boot. If it is as impervious as they say, it stands to good reasons that cutting into it and fashioning it into something usable would be extremely demanding. Making an entire ship out of that, I would say especially at that time, would probably be next to impossible if not actually impossible.
@@Kutan I maintain the poor writing opinion! But, let's imagine If they got technology to build a freaking neutronium doors, you got technology to mass produce it! Fake Star Trek economy works differently than our one,in the real world! I'm guessing that even the fine coat of that wonder material, would make the ships much stronger! They saying that explosives wouldn't even make a dent,in the neutronium doors,but how about the surrounding wall, maybe that's not made out of super material! 😅I'm just babbling here... Greetings from Croatia from Kris 😎
@ironfist7789 oh, really?? Now imagine the weight of the door,and what kind of mechanism opens that weight!? imagine the foundations of that building 👻 Space ships are in the space, weight doesn't matter that much... Production of the mega heavy materials, that's something else all together! Star Trek,I love it,but it's an example of terrible writings... Terrible script! The mixture of Western propaganda,and American exceptionalistic propaganda... Greetings from Croatia 😎
Let's not forget, Damar was the bad guy. A hardcore Dukat follower, critical of the Federation...and the man who murdered Ziyal. And yet, here he is, a hero. And it WORKS. THAT is good writing.
Character arc.
They took him from being just another Cardassian Goon under Dukat who shoots unarmed women in the back, to being effectively the salvation of The Alpha Quadrant.
Even I wanted to shout "For Cardassia!" by the end.
He’s a patriot
And he killed Ziyal because he was even more fanatical than Dukat and she was, in his mind, a traitor
@@jonathanwilliams1065 That is one thing Damar and Garak had in common. They were patriots. How they expressed that though...
Even weirder, it was Dukat who came back and got him to pull himself together, and be the hero Cardassia needed.
I loved the little moment of madness with Garak, Kira, and Damar… It just seemed genuine.
A moment of levity goes a long way towards morale.
It makes them all feel so... Human.
It makes you realize they're not just all big scary soldiers, they all have lives outside of this.
Apon further viewings, when watching this scene, I realized that... most of them are going to die in the next couple of minutes... it puts a sick, bittersweet feeling I'm the pit of my stomach, and almost puts a tear to my eye.
Garak: Here we are, about to storm the castle, willing to sacrifice our lives for the noble effort of slaying the dominion beast in its lair....and we can't even get inside the gates....
Kira: We could go up to the door and ask the Jem'Hadar to let us in...
Damar: Why don't we just have them send the shapeshifter out to us....
Irony is funny at tines
Oh wow! Did you just watch this video and then type out a part of the conversation? Brilliant!
@Th3D3ltaforc3 hello there, new to the internet jackass. Apparently, the concept of "drawing attention to the funniest part of the scene" has never dawned on you.
Laughter is release of tension; it helps
Damar’s line is the best, it’s the most unexpected 😂
It's easy to miss, but the exchange between the Changeling and Weyoun must easily been the most significant in his (short) life. His god told him that she trusted him and that he has served her well. It reminds me of the Weyoun that died with Odo's blessing.
I love how Damar and the other Cardassians join in on Garak and Kiras laughing at their predicament
The moment with garak and kira... Sympathetic moment about family. He had hoped that one day he can return home and live in the place of his birth. He's seen the loss of his father and mother, plus the quantum destruction of his people. Yet he remained strong enough to carry out what he said he wanted to. Free his people and get a measure of revenge.
This little moment is one of the best in the show.
William Costigan it’s just a little slip into madness from 1:40-2:47 ...it’s still good, it’s still good!!
Kira Nerys cackling like a schoolgirl with Garak and Damar is literally one of the funniest scenes in DS9 history. lol
Shame this scene is often cut when DS9 airs on syndication
1:00 when Kira realizes that Garak was of the same mindset as her during the Bajoran Occupation. After everything that was taken from her, the thought of liberating Bajor was secondary to thoughts of revenge for all she lost, and here Garak was thinking the same way
We have a problem.
Just one?
I'm afraid it's a rather large problem .... The cargo door is made of neutronium.
(*stunned look*)
Then the explosives we brought aren't even gonna make a dent?
You see the problem.
I swear ..... I love Garak. his flip mouth gave me life watching DS9. 🤣🤣🤣
Ah neutronium, the strongest material in the entire galaxy. It's the adamantium of Star Trek.
@@deathbykonami5487 Good thing they didn't make their ships out of it, otherwise the Cardassians would have conquered the galaxy.
Poor Garak lost his father and mother in front of him.
I definitely agree he was extremely pissed off at that moment knowing that the Dominion was responsible for both his parent's death. Crazy thought, even before I read the apocryphal book A Stitch in Time I always felt Mila was Garak's mother. While the book is not canon it makes sense given how close Mila and Garak were and how many Cardassian officers cheat on their wives.
Are we sure that woman was his mother or was just some maternal figure?
@@measumadib mila wasn’t Garak’s mother nor Tain’s wife; she was a housekeeper who ensured the secrets within the household’s two upper echelon Obsidian Order agents stayed as secrets and did so for over three decades. But more accurately, she certainly was a maternal figure for Garak, just was never implied or intended to be his actual mother. We sort of see a hint of his feelings for her earlier in the series when Garak stands up for her as Tain implies that she might be on his list of potential assassinations in The Die Is Cast, too.
This brings up another aspect of the military-employed Cardassian males in DS9 to consider; which is how their wives and families are never actually shown (besides a certain mixed-race and very plot-centric one of many of Dukat’s children) but rather referenced to or used as plot enhancement devices. There’s a lot of implications that Cardassian relations are either very open to relationships with other partners (on the husband side at least - Dukat and Damar) or perhaps that they aren’t stationed anywhere near the military-centric scenes so their relationships are more easily exploitable with other females. I’m not sure what the answer is though.
You know your shit. Applause. @@buddhull
@@buddhullthat could be a problem after the war
It would be imbalanced
God, I loved DS9. So dark, so gritty. Such amazing writing. Best Star Trek ever
If someone told S1 Kira that she would, one day, not only help Cardassians, but help them right on the grounds of Cardassia, fight alongside them, and even share a genuine laugh with them... she'd probably upper-cutted the person in indignant fury. May you live in interesting times, right? lol
I felt Garaks' pain when he was looking at meela, his Cardassia is gone, revenge works, awesome show
If nothing else, I must admire and respect Wayun for his unwavering dedication, loyalty, and love to the Founders, and I'm glad that he received her respect and, perhaps, her admiration in turn.
You know things truly can't get any worse when you're laughing it off.
No problem....just send in Captain Janeway.... as long as there's coffee in there, they don't stand a chance :)
Damar and the other Cardassian trying not laugh and then giving in is the best part.
Aha! The one I've been searching for - THIS is the one with "my loyal Weyoun" moment. I love how the Founder is so selfless yet bitter about the plague that she's ready to take as much of the Alpha Quadrant with her as possible. I love that she would casually sacrifice the only solid she's ever trusted in a heartbeat if it would help, and that Weyoun would gladly let her. Two great moments in one post, thank you.
Breen Commander: I'm going to go lead our troops in battle.
Actual intention: Let's get the hell out of here!!
Fun fact:
In the non-canon novelisation of "What You Leave Behind", the Breen did retreat after the Federation Alliance's forces had found a weak spot around their impulse engines.
(And yes, a second battle in orbit of Cardassia Prime does take place in that one.)
Never turn your back on a breen
The Breen were in the Dominions planetary fleet surrounding Cardassia prime when the alliance fleet arrived.
And there were Breen at The Treaty of Bajor signing aboard Deep Space Nine.
@@FekLeyrTargnon-canon novels are exactly that, non-canon.
There were Breen ships in the Dominion's defence perimeter fleet at Cardassia Prime when the alliance fleet arrived at Cardassia Prime.
th-cam.com/video/LNC5_qCRdHI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bRQFVLbAPpTGBdAR
4:14 onward, Weyoun's eyes are pointing in different directions.
If I remember right, Jeffery Combs has a lazy eye. Also the comment in a prior episode, "Bad eyes, Good ears."
@@tacticalderpy2077 I thought it was his contact lenses acting up.
This has the ripped pants energy to it
What I REALLY like is how, given the extreme gravity of their current situation, Garak adds humor to try to lighten the mood and give everyone else with them some much needed renewed hope/vigor. "Commander" Kira picked up on it right away, and after a few seconds even Damar picked up on it and played along.
Absolutely GREAT writing, as well as acting.
I disagree. It is an absolutely normal reaction. Too much tension, too much drama, the body has to let the pressure go somehow, or it will explode. And that’s what makes this scene great, the genuity of it
@@lluisdemonermayans2157 You're absolutely correct dude. And I have to respectfully point out that I think you misunderstood what I meant with my comment. What you just said is exactly the point I was trying to make.
“Sometimes, Mr. Spock, things go so badly you just have to laugh”
Watching Pike’s dinner scene in SNW immediately reminds me of this scene.
Imagine admitting to watching Strange New Wokes, that badly written, non-prime trek garbage on a Deep Space Nine video.
@@ValiantWrestling Star Trek has always been woke 🤷🏻♂️
Have you seen TOS? Yeah sure it’s less subtle in the new series but that’s what Star Trek is about. If anything, DS9 was a deviation from Gene Roddenberry’s original ideas, with darker tones and all.
DS9 is still my favorite though. Would I deny that SNW is a good series? Absolutely not.
@ValiantWrestling: why don’t you tell us how SNW is “woke”?
@@ValiantWrestling star trek was the wokest show in the 60s
A black woman
A russian
A Japanese
A Scottish
All these in one show and as the main cast was incredibly woke for its time
Difference is that star trek was better written and interesting. New trek siffer from gen z writing. The issue isn't woke its simply just terrible writing
I love the design of dominion battle cruiser ❤ wished to own one 😂
All of the on-screen Dominion ships in the show were awesome looking.
Good example of the stress giggles right there
This really did make me laugh out loud.
It's irony of the situation, they were at the dominion's doorstep, ready to charge and the only thing that stood in their way was an impenetrable door
The moment would be a group laughing felt like a real DnD moment 😂😂
I doubt Kira would have ever thought to be on Cardassia fighting for their freedom when once they had denied her people theirs that she would be with them and laughing at a somewhat hopeless yet critical situation. What is it they say a society has many shades and many facets from which a society is based. Well this is it. All of them equally were once brutal conquerors to just people fighting for what they believe regardless of who they're with.
And war makes for very strange bedfellows. Whether you like someone or even fundamentally agree with their politics may be entirely irrelevant. Just look at the US allying with the USSR in WWII to crush Germany, only for both to lean on their new German allies and "allies" in the Cold War.
Or the Soviet military aid whose recipients resold it to the CIA who sold and gifted it to insurgents in the middle east who shot at US soldiers, possibly after a few more links in the ownership chain.
Those most be industrial-strength servos to open doors that heavy.
---
Anyway... if the door is impenetrable (for all intents and purposes), that just means that the walls are weaker than the doors.
the walls are thick so getting in by blasting the walls is a no go.
@@SantomPh If the walls are holding up something made of neutronium, they must be of insane thickness and strength as well.
this show was criminally underrated back then and now still.
Also,,,,,,, the dominion has the ability to produce neutronium … wow, not even the Borg have that technology
Yeah. In "To The Death," the Iconian gateway the rogue Jem'Hadar had commandeered was housed within a fortress reinforced with neutronium.
3:29 spoken like a true creator!!
"Good luck storming the castle!!!"
No need. They can just have the shape shifter sent out to them.
@@ricardospaniard9050Check out the movie called the princess bride....
Think it'll work? It would take a miracle
0:53 "I have an even better reason... revenge."
I always loved Garak.
Although its a random rag tag group, you absolutely start to love that Cardassian strike team laughing together.
A touching moment for the Founder and her beloved servant. I wonder if a peace could have been brokered sooner, had the "Federation" had the cure readily available
It's hard to say, and the answer will differ from person to person. Me... I have a very low opinion of the Founders and I believe that they'd take the cure, sign a "peace" treaty and then immediately plot an apocalyptic retaliation. It would only take a matter of time for their territory to expand until within manual striking range of the Alpha/Beta Quadrant powers. And then, the true war would begin. Forgive me, I'm horrendously pessimistic.
@@LocksAndChains nothing wrong with that. People ask if the glass is half full or half empty. I ask what glass? The one shattered on the floor that I already stepped on and am bleeding from the sharp shards?
But in all seriousness, what is stopping the Dominion from continuing anyway? The worm hole is still active. There is absolutely no way even the combined three powers could police the other side of the worm hole. Unless they would be severely monitored and any sort of build up near the worm hole would be reported immediately and some how the Alpha Quadrant could try and fight back.
But nothing is stopping the Founders from saying, screw it. Odo can not control any of them, only suggest. Maybe there were more lenient voices in the goo and with Odo they would be peaceful. I do not know.
Just goes to show how short sighted section 31 was. Why would the founders relent when their whole species was doomed anyway.
@@waxerwaer9700 Doesn't matter, they'd die in like 2 months anyway. They weren't gonna win in 2 months, and without them the Dominion would collapse in very short order probably.
@@floppydisksareop But if they hadn't been doomed to die, the founders would have likely attempted peace sooner. The founders strategy at the end was,"If we're going to die, we'll take all of you with us."
You know becoming the joker at everything against you doesn't seem unlikely.
FOR CARDASSIAAAAAA!!!
So this is the culmination of slime evolution
Weyoun's contacts are messed up when he looks up at the Founder. o.O
What I think is interesting is how similar The Babylon 5 and deep space story lines follow each other, they both have a dukat and they both have a Messiah like character.
They both end with very similar Fates for the empires that are villainized.
In Star Trek the cardassian cities are bombed.
In Babylon 5 the centauri cities are bombed.
In neither case do you feel any sort of satisfaction. Seeing both empires die as a result of battles between celestial beings is both terrifying.
In Star Trek you have the prophets and the wraiths.
In Babylon 5 you have the vorlons and the shadows.
The show story lines follow very similar arcs.
Should have been Dukat's arc.
"The only solid I have ever trusted" The irony being is that she would've sent that very Weyoun to be terminated had Damar not blown up the last Dominion cloning station in the Alpha Quadrant lol
where is the video with the
BREEN
subtitles
Clickity clackity *modem noises*
I'm pretty sure my D&D group ran into a similar situation and we all started laughing at the exact same reason. Sometimes in dire situations when you run into an issue, all you can do is look at the situation and just laugh at the ridiculousness of it
I just noticed Wayon's contacts @4:41 are misaligned
FOR CARDASSIA!!!!
See now, I have a problem with their problem. The door is made of neutronium. But surely that can't be true of the entire structure? Couldn't they blast through the wall NEAR the door, or maybe even come at it from below? A place like that has to have sewer access, or failing that, a septic tank. And given the futuristic nature of this city, that septic tank probably has an access area.
What I'm saying is that the whole plan was thwarted due to a lack of imagination (and explosives).
FOR CARDASSIA!!
A hilarious scene, and deep space nine is my favorite series; but as a member of the bojourn resistance kira should know you don't blow the door you blow the wall.
O Garak, I’m sorry
Hey you think the Cardassian architecture was made to look like the station pylons?
Funny as hell
Wasn't this the same Wayoun that the Founder said she wanted to get rid of once the Vorta cloning facilities were back up?
I think she meant his line of clones
Thing I never understood, why were there so many ships in the defence perimeter that in all likelihood weren't fighting in the major battle they just lost?
Communication blackout remember
Also its common military tactic to have reserves in case the first wave fails or another enemy units that either flanked their forces or broken through the lines
1:34 I think they wanted to do a fight here but the CGI cost back in the 90's was astronomical. The fight would have commenced, there would have been enormous losses on both sides, and Odo would have beamed down to link with the founder in more desperate circumstances.
Instead, they had Odo beam down BEFORE the commencement of the space battle, thereby saving money for episode production, emphasizing the importance and final heroic contribution of Odo to the solids in the script, and completing Odo's story arc over the entire course of the show.
This show was well done on many levels. People didn't appreciate it enough back in the 90's.
How exactly did the Dominion destroy Cardassian cities? With their ships from space?
They also have fighter ships in skies.
a combination of ship and sub orbital bombardments along with jem hadar soldiers sweeping the cities shooting everything that moved
they detonated Lakarian City so they had WMDs. The Je'm Hadar ships also work in atmosphere so they bombed them from the air. Basically the only "safe" Cardassians were the ones in the fleet.
Just a little strange hearing "Commander" Kira. I know why, just weird.
Mess with Section 31, your species is done
I'm with Garak. The America I grew up in and loved, is gone. I have but one hope in my remaining days: revenge.
*YOU really want to fight & die for Cardassians &, or Cardassia? (◔_◔)*
If they can make doors out of Neutronium,and it's like a indestructible material,why the heck they don't use a layers of that,on the ships hulls???
Poor writing...😅
A Door is a lot smaller than a Starship for one. Probably a lot easier to engineer and manufacture to boot. If it is as impervious as they say, it stands to good reasons that cutting into it and fashioning it into something usable would be extremely demanding. Making an entire ship out of that, I would say especially at that time, would probably be next to impossible if not actually impossible.
@@Kutan I maintain the poor writing opinion!
But, let's imagine If they got technology to build a freaking neutronium doors, you got technology to mass produce it! Fake Star Trek economy works differently than our one,in the real world! I'm guessing that even the fine coat of that wonder material, would make the ships much stronger! They saying that explosives wouldn't even make a dent,in the neutronium doors,but how about the surrounding wall, maybe that's not made out of super material! 😅I'm just babbling here... Greetings from Croatia from Kris 😎
@@Kutan yeah, as far as I remember, there are only two ships with a neutronium hull in Star Trek - the planet killer (TOS) and the think tank (Voy)
it also weighs 2 billion tons per cubic inch and comes from a neutron star in theory
@ironfist7789 oh, really??
Now imagine the weight of the door,and what kind of mechanism opens that weight!? imagine the foundations of that building 👻
Space ships are in the space, weight doesn't matter that much...
Production of the mega heavy materials, that's something else all together! Star Trek,I love it,but it's an example of terrible writings...
Terrible script! The mixture of Western propaganda,and American exceptionalistic propaganda...
Greetings from Croatia 😎