Oblivion definitely had the best quest overall for sure. And casting spells with a great sword equipped is something I never would thought I had taken for granted.
Yep, the magic system in Skyrim is TERRIBLE and by far the worst in the entire series. The spells hit like nerf darts even when you max out destruction and take the relevant perks. And yeah, the quests in Oblivion are far superior as well and the game is a lot less serious overall and more lighthearted. The scenery also isn't pretty much just different tones of grey as well and the biome is far more diverse.
Oblivion also has the worst enemy scaling. You have to min max your character to have any enjoyment. The upside is that that is the only problem Oblivion has. It definitely has the best quests and music out of all the Elder Scrolls games. Morrowind has the best rpg elements, world setting and story. Skyrim the best visuals and gameplay.
@@Travybear1989 Yeah the only way to make destruction strong is to abuse alchemy/enchanting loop. Then you can make some fortify destruction potions and finally do damage. Lame…
Morrowind is like hearing the Lord of the Rings narrated by a 3-packs-a-day (good Argonian name) throat cancer patient tell it to you in a trailer park. Oblivion is like having Lord of the Rings narrated by Sean Bean, but he drank a mega pint of Cyrodilic Brandy and illustrates scenes with crayons. Skyrim is like having Lord of the Rings narrated to you by Wim Hof, but it is the only book he owns and each time he tells you the story he asks you for more money even though you're literally his child.
This game was Gold for it's age, it was my first Bethesda Game as well. I remember the freedom I felt while playing it, no other game from the same time period gave me the same sensation. I had no previous lore connection to The Elder Scrolls Saga, Oblivion conquered me as a fan, It made me research lore, play older titles and truly become in Love with the franchise. Love from Brazil !🇧🇷👍
I already got this as 2h video (during the stream) and still have not enough. Would love that others shared their thoughts about topics such as magic system (like what cool spells come up with, interesting utilization of them etc.). Hope Frankly will make anoher videos like this, at least during weeks, when do not have time to finish a traditional video (such as iceberg).
I do love Oblivion, there's something about Cyrodiil that just makes me happy to be alive. Skyrim is graphically better in every way, but seeing Cyrodiil is just beautiful, it's the kind of place I would want to buy a bottle of wine, sit out in a green field as the wind carried the blades of grass and just enjoy the world.
I remember playing Oblivion for the first time and being blown away by the trees. The fact you could see individual leaves and they were fully 3d modeled. Especially coming from Morrowind where trees were few and far between
Yeah, got it on PC when it first came out and almost lost my mind after playing it for the first time. I don't think I left my computer for more than 30 minutes that first day and called off work the next day so I could play it some more. My girlfriend at the time was so pissed off at me because of my addiction to the game that she broke up with me and I don't remember even caring. Actually I was happy because that gave me more time to play the game without being disturbed, when I found out about mods for it 6 months later I got re-addicted for months and I was still playing the game fairly regularly until about 2010. I got Skyrim when it came out on 11-11-2011 and enjoyed it for a good year or two then went back to Oblivion before playing Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind. Daggerfall was surprisingly really good too and so was Morrowind. Hated Morrowind's scenery though, everything was just so dreary and ugly but the story and music were pretty good. Oblivion really does have the best overall package though.
@043 Daggerfall's the biggest, Morrowind's the weirdest, Skyrim's the most accessible... Oblivion isn't as easy to sum up. I like it best because Cyrodiil has such a nice vibe. It's a lovely, pleasant world to explore, the music is Jeremy Soule at his best, the quest writing is really creative... like you said, the best overall package. One underrated feature of Oblivion is the NPCs, IMO. Almost every unique NPC has a greeting line where they say who they are and something about themselves. They all have schedules, and some of them are really interesting... drug addict NPCs who wander around trying to score Skooma, wizard NPCs who wander around forests blasting wildlife with fireballs, NPCs who have secret love affairs... if you like "people watching", then Oblivion is the game for you. Skyrim's NPCs are so _bland_ in comparison.
To me it was like the first time I had played Grand Theft Auto 3, that jump from PS1 games, GTA 1 especially to seeing the 3d world of GTA 3 was mindblowing. I remember the first time I played Oblivion I went to visit family in another country and he had this thing called an Xbox 360, I didn't know what this thing was at the time and my cousin told me that I could play it just don't save and he'll be back after eating. The week was supposed to be about family but I took every opportunity to sneak away and play, pure addiction from seeing how beautiful the graphics were and how good the bow looked and sounded when firing it. We had some good times. When I went home I forgot about it after a while and was reminded of the 360's existence later that year when I seen the Gears of War trailers, by Christmas I was unboxing my very own 360 and on that console I cannot tell what is my favourite game between Gears of War, Oblivion and Halo 3. I still have friends to this day that I made on Gears of War 2 back in 2008... if it wasn't for playing Oblivion at my cousins house and learning it can't be played on the PS2 I may never have decided that I NEEDED the 360.
@@Travybear1989 Bwahahahaha I had a similar experience except I lost my highschool sweetheart, who was WAY out of my league btw, because I decided to stay home and play Runescape.
Why do people get confused over the main story in Oblivion. You were NEVER the Chosen One. You are 'This is the point of no return' for the Empire. Martin was theChosen One, you were just his hyper-competent sidekick
hey man, i turn 16 next month. oblivion and halo ce were the first two games i played followed by dark souls and fallout new vegas. i just wanted to say thanks for this, i love bethesda, they’re one of my favorite developers (probably cause i have nostalgia goggles on 24/7) and just seeing someone else enjoy this game again is great. playing older games, it’s hard to find people who enjoy the same games as me cause most my friends just play cod. i appreciate you, and love your channel. it’s awesome
I can tell you what it is. The whole world and the way everything is designed is like diving into another world. And if that world is exactly your cup of tea, you don't want to leave anymore. The atmosphere, the lighting, the large empty and peaceful areas outside. All the shit you could do with magic - it was just like "yeah, do whatever you want, idc". And my favorite city and house in the game was bravil. So run-down, but when I decorated my house with everything I could find that would somehow match what I was aiming for ... Looting dungeons, bringing it back and spending HOURS trying to get one book onto the shelves, only to reload because you've just thrown the others across the room by trying to do that. It's just a (seemingly) endless medieval-fantasy-playground / sandbox. I even loved the dungeons - I mean, in reality they wouldn't look too differently either. Just happy to see that others are still giving love to this gem as well, even after all these years
@@Jort007for me it’s trying to set silverware cups and bowls back perfectly on my table after accidentally running into it. It was impossible- legitimately lol, the fruit/bread would never spawn in the right place ever again 😂 you HAD to reload lol
First time I played oblivion as a kid was when I was learning English as a second language, I didn't know what "over-encumbered" meant and my friend at school laughed at me when I asked about it. Replaying it later in life, it still has its charm, the game really has soul.
My first ever character was a Wood Elf as well! I focused on sneak, archery, destruction, conjuration, restoration. I have thousand of hours on that Wood Elf. Oblivion is all nostalgia to me. I tried to play it again and just couldn’t get into it 😂 something about that first play through as a young lad being introduced to Tamriel for the first time.. life changing
Amazing, I played Oblivion for the first time shortly after playing through FO4 and I loved it, jankiness and graphics aside, it's just a more enjoyable experience. Not all that glitters is gold, as they say.
@@yoremothra9838 I never played the Fall Out series but I’ve heard they were great. I’m just more of a lord of the rings, elder scrolls, hobbiton type folk. I can’t wait for Elder Scrolls 6. I don’t care if I’m 35 by that time I’m putting in a thousand hours to that game. High Wizard 🧙🏻♂️
One of your best points that hit me was how magical it was discovering the dark brotherhood on your own, no spoilers, no content hunting, not knowing anything about them, this is how I like to approach new games. I will look up some reviews at best or a couple quick videos to display some simple trailer tier footage and play it or don't. Otherwise even if the game looks cool and I for whatever reason know I won't play it, only then will I dive deep in overviews and detailed reviews.
Yea same I wasn't watching any TH-cam videos to find all the content, it was magic. Kinda sad I fell into this bad habit lately, thx for reminding me to play games a different way again.
Oblivion, Fo3, Morrowind....for all of the shortcomings they hold up because they are from a time when making these games was an art form...there was a lot of love in the dev team (like the guy who wrote all of the books and thusly the lore making mods for Morrowind and Oblivion in his private time for free to share with us) that just isn't there anymore and won't be
After playing Oblivion for 95~ in game days, only playing the shivering isles dlc, a portion of the mage guild quests and a menagerie of side quests, I have realized how much of a corporate shell Skyrim is. Skyrim is so serious, so bleak, and all of the quests and dungeons are just the same thing in different costumes. All the NPCs just say "need something?" As if i didnt just defeat the literal eater of worlds. Oblivion feels like love and passion was poured into every single rock and tree. One minute I'm entering a painting to save an artist and his magic brush, the next I'm fighting a necromancer in the basement of my house. There's always something to do at the point that I'm at, and the whimsy and vibe the characters and world have makes everything feel right if yknow what I mean. This is one of my favorite games of all time, and while I still love skyrim, there is nothing that can compare to the feeling of adventure Oblivion gives me.
Honestly I first played oblivion in 2017, years after playing 500+ hours of Skyrim and I love Oblivion more. The only mods I have installed are cosmetic enhancements for faces and equipment
Sound design, world building, and quests are the three pillars that make this game better than the rest. Just reinstalled it vanilla and have been putting in some hours into it. It definitely has a charm to it, but man it’s got to be the best world of any elder scrolls. Skyrim’s world is cool for its cold mountainous landscapes, and Morrowind is great for its awe inspiring world and game mechanics, but you can’t beat Oblivion. Also that dark brotherhood quest line is still unmatched and I don’t think it will ever be beat.
My dream MOD My idea is that the class you pick will represent the artwork, you exit the sewers wearing that armor set To pick a Sorcerer for example, not some guy in a robe like you would imagine in your head, you of course can still roam the world or it’s many merchants and buy a robe or something, but if you look at the artwork of the class, Big long shield, hair tied in a bun, some strange looking cup in hand with white fire, shoulder armor on only one side ( like in Morrowind ) and long cloth pants similar to arabian bazaar market dealers wear The MOD community of The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion is legendary, so i KNOW this can be done!
One of the best things about Oblivion that I've never seen anyone talk about, hopefully you rectify that, is how you can assign actions to more than one key. For example I have interact as the default 'e' but also mouse 3. Grab is the default 'z' and mouse 4. Can't do that in Skyrim. I'd bet it's because of the consolization of the game. Oblivion came out for consoles, but iirc wasn't developed for them.
I always loved when you get out of the sewers at the beginning and a message pops up that says "Aight bruh, you can either follow the arrow on your compass or fuck off in any direction. Have fun!"
Though the Oblivion gate/worlds were repetitive, Oblivion had a really solid main quest, which I can't really say about Fallout 3 or Skyrim. The graphics leap from Morrowind to Oblivion was enormous too.
Just testarted it today. I have well over a 1000 hours in it but its been so long since ive played it. Im kinda excited to play it again. I cant eait till the modders get the Skyblivion done. It will look great.
I have the white gold tower tattooed on my back, being taken over by dragons with a Daedra holding a decapitated Nords head and a Daedric sword in his hand next to his pet dragon far from the imperial city in the distance.
You mentioned the Thieves Guild questline and that reminds me one of my favorite moments in it. Minor spoilers When you're doing quests for the Gray Fox and he mentions how the identity of the Gray Fox is a curse and that he's even told you his real name several times and you've already forgotten it. That's a great way of fourth wall breaking playing mind games on the players. When he said that I actually did a double take like wait when the hell did he say that?
Oblivion will always hold a special place in my heart it was my first Bethesda and elder scrolls game and also the first game I got when my dad got me an Xbox 360 for Christmas. Oblivion has this magical charm that can never be replicated.
It's be nice if Elder Scrolls 6 takes place all throughout Tamriel and depending on your race you start in a different province with different backstories for each race That'd be awesome
I genuinely think Oblivion's NPC Argonians are the best, most attractive, expressive Argonians in the series. Their faces are so cute in this & the livid colouration is gorgeous. Also Sir Mazoga the Orc. I would take an arrow in my knee for her.
I think the biggest failures of Skyrim and Fallout 4, compared to Oblivion and Fallout 3, were the scripted events that play out every playthrough the first you enter an area. Skyrim has three to four big ones per Hold; two or three per city and one or two per town. Fallout 4 has one for nearly every location, from the cities to the settlements to any raider infested ruin. Interiors within interiors may have scripted events; most buildings in Diamond City and Good Neighbor for example. It's even worse when you're dozens of levels or hours into a playthrough and one of these plays, and they don't take into account the players strengths, abilities, or story progression, hell even the time of day. _Skyrim_ First time in Riverwood, "I saw a dragon!" First time in Whiterun hold, the companions killing the giant. First time in Dragonsreach, Jarl Balgruuf arguing with his brother and the Steward. First time in Solitude, Roggvir's execution. Etc. _Fallout 4_ Second time in Sanctuary, robot butler's master returns. First time at the Drumlin Diner, junky son owes caps. First time in Diamond City, Piper's locked outside the gates. First time in Good Neighbor, protection/toll scheme goes awry for unwitting citizen. Etc. Whereas in Oblivion and Fallout 3, there are so few that the world feels more natural. The world and it's people existed before the player showed up, they weren't waiting for you before putting on their little play. I'm really straining to even think of a list here. Oblivion, I actually can't think of any scripted events outside of ongoing quests, just NPCs approaching the player. Fallout 3, I can only think of Gob and Dr. Zimmer. _Oblivion_ First time in Skingrad, Glarthir the town eccentric approaches you for help because he doesn't trust the locals. First time in Chorrol, Dar-Ma approaches you to welcome you to town because she's so sweet. First time in Kvatch, a crazy altmer screams about daedra attacking the city. _Fallout 3_ First time in most towns, a named NPC approaches you to get a read on your intentions. First time in Moriarty's Saloon, Gob is banging on the radio because its getting a poor signal. First time in the Rivet City Lab, Dr. Zimmer is explaining the importance of finding his escaped synth to a local scientist. Oblivion and Fallout 3 invite the player to live in the world. While Skyrim and Fallout 4 are putting on a show, desperately trying to keep your attention, even if they've already got it.
I recently started Oblivion for the first time.... In defense of the main story... Urial Septim was a major character in all previous Elder Scrolls game... I normally do not like Fantasy genre at all... but a genre is allowed to be a genre... Emperor Septim was an avid follower of the Nine and practiced Astrology.... In Elder Scrolls these religions are actually real without debate... its not like religion in our world where the existence of God and spirits are debatable... it can be Impreically demonstrated that these religions exist and are real in the Elder Scrolls universe... so his whole "you are the chosen side kick that will help Martin save the world " is a legit story telling Mechanic.... I feel like people expect everything to be an action hero game like Fallout NV, Skyrim, and Mass Effect... where a Game like Fallout 3 is more of a mystery genre where story elements are scattered throughout the map and not delivered in standard exposition of story points (and you might not get the whole story in a single play through), and Oblivion actually uses Fantasy elements to advance the story instead of some type of "action elements " to advance the story and deliver and exposition of key points... So often I hear "Bethesda has bad writing " arguments based on the fact that the story being delivered in some other way than directly telling the story, or allowing the story to be told on the terms of the Genre of the story... and then the same people mostly Fallout NV cult boys will complain that Bethesda is dumbing down their games... it's a fair criticism that Bethesda is dumbing down their games, even Todd Howard acknowledged this talking about FO4 and Skyrim... but the main reason for this is people complaining that Bethesda isn't giving us a good story (translation: Bethesda isn't giving us a story that is simpler or that uses story telling devices that are normally bad but should be acceptable in specific genre of story telling).... Edit: I got through the Vanille game... now I'm modding... and now I have mounted horse combat... and Yes Horse Armor is the GOAT DLC now
Shivering isles has got to be the best dlc of all time. Still can’t think of a better one. Closest would be blood and wine from Witcher 3 but there was just something different about shivering isles
This might end up being a long post. Sorry in advanced. To me, Skyrim lost the sense of wonder that Morrowind and Oblivion gave you upon start-up. In Morrowind, the game starts with you having a nightmare as some God whispers an ancient prophecy to you before you're abruptly awoken by your bunkmate who was concerned for you because you weren't looking right. A slaver comes below deck to your bunk and has you follow him outside where you're initially hit by this sense of awe where you're seeing familiar things like the boat, dock, builds and people, but you're also seeing crazy wondrous things like gigantic mushrooms and a humongous flea standing next to a set of stairs. You're then handed off to the Warrant Officer at which point he escorts you into the Seyda Neen office to officially document you for release. After building your character and you make it through the very brief tutorial inside that office building, you're let out into Seyda Neen proper with a note in your pocket saying "Go talk to this guy the next town over." and it leaves you to either do that or just go explore and discover til your heart's content. --My first character was a Nord. Did everything in Seyda Neen I thought there was to do and began my trek towards what I thought was Balmora. Went spelunking in a cave that had a Necromancer in it. After killing the Necromancer I realized I couldn't move. Damn batard's minion hit me with a disease that lowered my endurance to 1 so I couldn't move. I pissed and moaned about it to my friend later that day when he came over and he looked at my character on Xbox and was like "Yeah that's why. You got a disease." and when I found out that they didn't just go away over time, I rerolled my character and made an Argonian based on my friends suggestion because they were resistant to Disease and Poison and that's the character I mained until I beat the game. In Oblivion you get that intro cutscene that thanks to that song and Sir Patrick Stewart's delivery of those opening lines, that intro went FAR harder than it had any right to. Then of course you go through the tutorial prison thing, you finalize your character at the sewer gate entrance and the very first thing you see is this massive expansive world, and some long ancient ruins that's begging to be explored. And that music. Mmm. The music. Oh yeah. That music in Oblivion is/was such a vibe. That song that plays when you first step out of the sewers in Oblivion invokes in me the same feelings that the Majula theme song in Dark Souls 2 gives me. --I don't know why I remember this, but one of my fondest memories of Oblivion was walking out of some dank forgotten and ruined Fort having just barely survived clearing it out by the skin of my teeth. I had no mana left to heal. Was all out of my health potions. The only weapon I had that wasn't broken was some dinky shortsword I hadn't leveled up because I was going a 2h plate build. I figured I'd go out of the keep, rest back up to full then my horse and I would ride back to town and sell off all of the treasure I just got. Couldn't rest in the keep because of some rat I left alive at the start of the delve and that I didn't have the health to try and fight afterwords. Got like 3 hours worth of rest in making it early morning when the rest was interrupted by a roaming pack of Goblins. Damn things killed my horse and nearly killed me. I started walking back to the Imperial City because I was stupid back then and thought that because Morrowind didn't have fast travel that Oblivion didn't either. Fast travel wasn't something that even popped into my mind as an option in games at the time. At that point in time fast-travelling in a game to me just meant you ride a static, game-controlled mount from one spot to another like in WoW. I walked up a hill through the trees and grass and at the top of the hill I caught a glimpse of the Imperial City as the sun began to rise behind it. I'll never forget just how large that game world felt after that, or all the wondrous things I had yet to experience or discover. Skyrim doesn't do any of that though. The forest you ride through looks cool and all, but it doesn't open up into anything except another claustrophobic town. The carriage ride itself felt rather claustrophobic because you couldn't fully pan the camera around, you were stuck in like a 180 degree wedge. Then you just arrive in the center of a town where there's people piled to your left, buildings to your right and nothing visually really going on ahead of you. Then as you're about to be executed the big bad dragon shows up and everybody soils themselves, at which point you flee into the keep where you go with either the sympathetic Imperial or the zealot rebel and fight your way through the keep. Even once you step outside of Helgen into relative safety, it's not like it opens up into this crescendo of the main theme and a sweeping vista or anything like that. It's more cramped, dense trees and rocks that obscure more than anything 20 feet away from you. It's not until like 2 hours into your new character once you're ready to leave Riverwood and head to Whiterun do you get hit with a big, open field view of the game world, and even that is obscured mainly by Whiterun itself. Skyrim, while still a fantastic game, doesn't capture the wonder and amazement that is the opening segments of Morrowind and Oblivion, and I'm afraid TES VI probably wont either unfortunately.
I remember playing this on my old pc, it had TLB or "Toggle Light Bright" on by default. Removed all shadows to make the game playable. Caves were more lit than the overworld.
I think my favorite TES is still Morrowind (maybe because it was also my first contact with the series as well as it's location (I really like Dunmer and Dwemer - that Sotha Sil DLC in ESO is my 2nd most fav part of that game), though I also simply like openness and various systems more - it's a game since before the great dumbing down began with Oblivion (I know that Daggerfall is even more complex in some areas but that's completely different era, not only for games but even for TES series). I liked 3 houses + guild quests (especially skill requirements to advance and the duel for the title of Archmage), I liked how cities were not afraid to be complex (one word: Vivec), the freedom of movement with jump and levitation spells, etc. Granted, there were many improvements developed in later games (I think I like Skyrim's Vampirism the most, followed by Oblivion's), obviously the modding capabilities and few others (graphics is definitely not one of them - BGS' games always look dated on their day one). But I agree, Oblivion has some very strong unique points about it that can't be rivaled by other games (Shimmering Isles might be my favorite part of TES series). That escape-room mission from Dark Brotherhood where you have to kill everyone without raising suspicions? Masterpiece. Finally, Frostcrag Spire (with some mod upgrades to not make it feel so empty) might be my favorite player house that's not 100% from mod as well. Granted, I almost exclusively play heavily modded so many of my points might be incorrect when applied to vanilla games, but still...
Oblivion on Xbox360 was my first Elder Scrolls game. I'll never forget accidentally killing someone (a guard I think?) running out of town, hiding, then resting. Just to find a Dark Brotherhood member looming over me the next morning! I thought I was going to get arrested lol. Had a Khajit theif type that could one shot people with punches to the back of the head. Would leap over buildings with the grey fox hood. Good times!
I was so addicted to this game when it came out that it was scary. I got it like a month or two after it came out after seeing it in a magazine and I barely left my computer (I played it on PC) over a week long period. I made a shitload of mistakes on my first character that was a Khajiit Acrobat and I still have the save file on my old hard drive. I didn't understand the levelling system until my second character so I had to turn the difficulty slider to the easiest possible to even kill anything lol! It was so much fun jumping from rooftop to rooftop and cheesing the game by using a bow and jumping on top of pillars in Ayleid ruins or to break line of sight with enemies to get away. I played Skyrim but it just wasn't the same with the lack of Acrobatics, Unarmed, and Spellcrafting. Plus, Skyrim's story and quests were horrible compared to Oblivion and it was far too serious for my taste.
Just finished Skyrim. And that makes me find out I love Oblivion. Oblivion is a game full of atmosphere. And the dialogues are so real and fun to me. Skyrim kind of weakens the personality of NPCs, making them no souls, compared to Oblivion. Everything is too reasonable and plain in Skyrim. Dragons are not so exciting. I can't get the thrill I got in Oblivion in Skyrim. Same with fallout 4, Bethesda is going downhill, trying to build farming games to make people spend lots of time. The spirit of RPG is disappearing. Bethesda's peak is Morrowind and Oblivion. Skyrim is okay, to be honest.
This game is what I used to convince my mother to get me an XBOX. Also, first time I played it, I left the sewers when it was nighttime. I then went around not knowing where to go as I could not see where anything was. I ended up seeing what I later found to be a necromancer, got scared thinking it was a world boss, and ran off.
In all honesty, Oblivion feels more forward-looking and ambitious than Skyrim. The quests and NPC programming are genuinely much more complex and fleshed out. The systems in general run so much deeper but you don't actually need to go that deep in order to enjoy yourself and do well. I really don't think Skyrim was ahead of its time, it felt like a big step back in almost every way. Also while I agree the main quest isn't as well written as many side quests, I don't agree that you're a chosen one or even that the main quest is super cheesy. Martin is the chosen one, you're just the guy who was meant to be in the right place at the right time to make sure Martin got to the end of his path. You're not any more of a chosen one than Baurus. And while they could have done Uriel's death a little better, nothing changes the ultimate point that it was his time to die and pass the torch to his last remaining heir. The details of how he was going to die don't matter as much.
Oblivion was my first elder scrolls game, and I definitely remember having that moment of "holy shit, games can do that", but I find myself returning to Skyrim more often than not I just don't know why
Sure oblivion had the better quest experience (though barely imho). But atmosphere, exploration and immersion - skyrim. Which is what I play bethesda games for. Not to mention combat, graphics, mods etc which favors skyrim by far.
I used to always say Oblivion was better… but I replayed Skyrim recently and fell in love with it like I was playing it for the first time. It’s so much more immersive and interesting then Oblivion. It just feels alive while Oblivion feels very lifeless, and the Npcs are ridiculous. Sure it has better rpg mechanics but who plays Skyrim without mods anyways. I do like the overall aesthetic more in oblivion. Hoping we get a more bright and colorful world in ES6
This was the first one I played. I loved it. Didn't know anything about it really. Bought it used at GameStop because I thought it looked cool. I played as a dark elf. Hadn't played it since then. I recently got back into Skyrim and started modding it. Which was awesome. But the more I played it. The more I missed oblivion. So I got it. Modding it is another story but I'm loving it. But a day or two after I got it and restarted it. I saw the trailer for Skyblivion. Maybe I should just wait.
This was the first Elder Scrolls I played too, and the main reason I picked up an XB360. I must've easily put many hundreds of hours into the game and just enjoyed living in the world. It was just so far beyond anything available at the time. Had a big fat strategy guide with a million sticky notes placed all through it for quests and just cool things to read through. While objectively, Skyrim is a 'better' game, it never felt like it had the magic and soul that Oblivion does. Time to start another playthrough!
It's absolutely criminal that a video like this gets so little views. Don't be disheartened by it. As far as I'm concerned, it's worth is not diminished.
Cyrodiil had some great stuff but I wish Micheal Kirkbride could have done a bit more lore and design for it... imagine more rennaisance/fake roman designs and such
Oblivion used to be my favourite Elder Scrolls game because of the soundtrack and quests, but Bethesda cut way too many rpg mechanics away compared to Morrowind and especially Daggerfall. While Skyrim ended up having zero rpg mechanics lol.
Anyone who mains a Kahjiit is sus and probably a furry Love the video. Morrowind and subsequently Fable were my first loves in the RPG genre. Love Morrowind and Oblivion. Oblivion was some of the most hype I ever experienced for a game haha Good times. Side note: Dark Messiah: Might and Magic had the most technologically advanced physics back then for an RPG. That game blew me away.
The game was great because it was made before the age of micro transactions. After the PS3/360 started making 25 dollar DLCs gaming studios gave up on making fun and beautiful projects. It has to be a 200+ Gig game, that sets your console on fire and breaks it due to under performance possessing. 200+ plus dollar deluxe editions, charge them 20$ for a blue skin in the E Shop. And a credit card registration requirement. Mario 3 1997 is a better game than anything else in todays market, you know why? It's only 3 bucks. And it doesn't crash.
This is the undisputed facts. Those who's first Elder Scrolls game was Daggerfall, then Daggerfall is the best. If they started with Morrowind, then Morrowind is the best. If they started with Oblivion, then Oblivion is the best. Skyrim doesn't count because the only way anybody plays Skyrim is if they mod it until it's not Skyrim anymore but a whole other game entirely.
I played oblivion to death, 100s of hours. Got skyrim when it came out. I've never competed it. I'd get so far then get bored. Leave it for months, start again, get bored. Oblivion for me was better written, the main story was more compelling, and it was more interesting.
It's an older game but you should check out Gothic 2:the night of the raven. A lot of the things Bethesda added to Oblivion were done 1st on that game by Piranha Bytes. It's more janky than Bethesda's games but good fun.
I started playing Bethesda games with morrowind. I didn't play much. Skyrim was the big one for me no doubt. Fallout 3 definitely pushed that further when I went back and played that after skyrim I believe or possibly before I honestly can't remember. Fallout 4 is better than many give credit and Oblivion is better than Skyrim in a lot of ways but the nostalgia of Skyrim wins every time for me haha. I'm pretty excited for Starfield because I love Bethesda games and I don't care what people say to be fair. Orc for life in skyrim and Redguard in Oblivion.
Oblivion was way better than Skyrim. I'm not just saying that because it's the first one I played because I'm starting to like Daggerfall and Morrowind more than Oblivion and Skyrim. It's not because Skyrim got dumbed down either. Oblivion's just more colorful and vibrant and the guilds are much better. Also has the best expansion ever in Shivering Isles something that Skyrim's dragonborn comes close too but still does not feel as big.
@@VrilWaffen How dare you good sir! I am flabbergasted at the very notion you would insult such a pure and hard working race! Blasphemy I say, blasphemy!
Love Oblivion, still the best elder scrolls especially with mods to fix its few flaws. coughlevellingcough Off topic though you need to make some way for that giant panda plushy to raise its head or wave or something every so often. Then never talk about it on video. Epic troll. Fishing line and pullies would do it on the cheap. Lego technic maybe, or get all fancy with extruded aluminum and stepper motors...
28:50 i was just playing maybe killed an innocent or smth and i go to sleep wake up see this dude but i ignored him i did not in the other moments and now my main walk thru is a dark sister cuz my character is a woman
Oblivion is better because no amount of mods can fix the bad writing, bad quest, bad story and bad guilds of Skyrim. That is why Skyrim has so many mods, it's because it's missing so much shit.
I'm such an oblivion freak I have to be in a mood to play Morrowind or Skyrim. You're too damn slow. Plus no athletics or acrobatics skill in Skyrim. I feel cemented to the ground when I play it. It's painfully overrated imo, Oblivion has obvious flaws but is so much better especially with mods. Morrowind is decent but I just can't get over the spell and hit chance percentage. If I connect an object to another object, I fuckin hit you.
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Fallout 4 is pathetic except for its snipers, where you can hold your breath and stalk NPCs, but Oblivion is the best game ever made 1st to Wrath of the Lich King 2nd.
Oblivion definitely had the best quest overall for sure. And casting spells with a great sword equipped is something I never would thought I had taken for granted.
Ya there is just something so special about the game
Plus you have more character options to try and mess with loved that game
Yep, the magic system in Skyrim is TERRIBLE and by far the worst in the entire series. The spells hit like nerf darts even when you max out destruction and take the relevant perks. And yeah, the quests in Oblivion are far superior as well and the game is a lot less serious overall and more lighthearted. The scenery also isn't pretty much just different tones of grey as well and the biome is far more diverse.
Oblivion also has the worst enemy scaling. You have to min max your character to have any enjoyment. The upside is that that is the only problem Oblivion has. It definitely has the best quests and music out of all the Elder Scrolls games. Morrowind has the best rpg elements, world setting and story. Skyrim the best visuals and gameplay.
@@Travybear1989 Yeah the only way to make destruction strong is to abuse alchemy/enchanting loop. Then you can make some fortify destruction potions and finally do damage. Lame…
Morrowind is like hearing the Lord of the Rings narrated by a 3-packs-a-day (good Argonian name) throat cancer patient tell it to you in a trailer park.
Oblivion is like having Lord of the Rings narrated by Sean Bean, but he drank a mega pint of Cyrodilic Brandy and illustrates scenes with crayons.
Skyrim is like having Lord of the Rings narrated to you by Wim Hof, but it is the only book he owns and each time he tells you the story he asks you for more money even though you're literally his child.
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I can't wait for Elder Scrolls Hammerfell, Lord of the Rings narrated by Morgan Freeman
This game was Gold for it's age, it was my first Bethesda Game as well.
I remember the freedom I felt while playing it, no other game from the same time period gave me the same sensation.
I had no previous lore connection to The Elder Scrolls Saga, Oblivion conquered me as a fan, It made me research lore, play older titles and truly become in Love with the franchise.
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It really was such a great game, thanks for watching shoutout Brazil!
I already got this as 2h video (during the stream) and still have not enough. Would love that others shared their thoughts about topics such as magic system (like what cool spells come up with, interesting utilization of them etc.). Hope Frankly will make anoher videos like this, at least during weeks, when do not have time to finish a traditional video (such as iceberg).
Morrowind had waaaay more freedom compared to Oblivion.
I do love Oblivion, there's something about Cyrodiil that just makes me happy to be alive. Skyrim is graphically better in every way, but seeing Cyrodiil is just beautiful, it's the kind of place I would want to buy a bottle of wine, sit out in a green field as the wind carried the blades of grass and just enjoy the world.
I remember playing Oblivion for the first time and being blown away by the trees. The fact you could see individual leaves and they were fully 3d modeled. Especially coming from Morrowind where trees were few and far between
Oblivion was a such game changer at the time, I wish I could describe how it felt, kinda like it's existence was impossible
Yeah, got it on PC when it first came out and almost lost my mind after playing it for the first time. I don't think I left my computer for more than 30 minutes that first day and called off work the next day so I could play it some more. My girlfriend at the time was so pissed off at me because of my addiction to the game that she broke up with me and I don't remember even caring.
Actually I was happy because that gave me more time to play the game without being disturbed, when I found out about mods for it 6 months later I got re-addicted for months and I was still playing the game fairly regularly until about 2010. I got Skyrim when it came out on 11-11-2011 and enjoyed it for a good year or two then went back to Oblivion before playing Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind.
Daggerfall was surprisingly really good too and so was Morrowind. Hated Morrowind's scenery though, everything was just so dreary and ugly but the story and music were pretty good.
Oblivion really does have the best overall package though.
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@043 Daggerfall's the biggest, Morrowind's the weirdest, Skyrim's the most accessible... Oblivion isn't as easy to sum up. I like it best because Cyrodiil has such a nice vibe. It's a lovely, pleasant world to explore, the music is Jeremy Soule at his best, the quest writing is really creative... like you said, the best overall package.
One underrated feature of Oblivion is the NPCs, IMO. Almost every unique NPC has a greeting line where they say who they are and something about themselves. They all have schedules, and some of them are really interesting... drug addict NPCs who wander around trying to score Skooma, wizard NPCs who wander around forests blasting wildlife with fireballs, NPCs who have secret love affairs... if you like "people watching", then Oblivion is the game for you. Skyrim's NPCs are so _bland_ in comparison.
To me it was like the first time I had played Grand Theft Auto 3, that jump from PS1 games, GTA 1 especially to seeing the 3d world of GTA 3 was mindblowing. I remember the first time I played Oblivion I went to visit family in another country and he had this thing called an Xbox 360, I didn't know what this thing was at the time and my cousin told me that I could play it just don't save and he'll be back after eating.
The week was supposed to be about family but I took every opportunity to sneak away and play, pure addiction from seeing how beautiful the graphics were and how good the bow looked and sounded when firing it. We had some good times. When I went home I forgot about it after a while and was reminded of the 360's existence later that year when I seen the Gears of War trailers, by Christmas I was unboxing my very own 360 and on that console I cannot tell what is my favourite game between Gears of War, Oblivion and Halo 3.
I still have friends to this day that I made on Gears of War 2 back in 2008... if it wasn't for playing Oblivion at my cousins house and learning it can't be played on the PS2 I may never have decided that I NEEDED the 360.
@@Travybear1989 Bwahahahaha I had a similar experience except I lost my highschool sweetheart, who was WAY out of my league btw, because I decided to stay home and play Runescape.
Why do people get confused over the main story in Oblivion. You were NEVER the Chosen One. You are 'This is the point of no return' for the Empire. Martin was theChosen One, you were just his hyper-competent sidekick
It's pretty funny that Martin is the main character and you're just some guy helping him
hey man, i turn 16 next month. oblivion and halo ce were the first two games i played followed by dark souls and fallout new vegas. i just wanted to say thanks for this, i love bethesda, they’re one of my favorite developers (probably cause i have nostalgia goggles on 24/7) and just seeing someone else enjoy this game again is great. playing older games, it’s hard to find people who enjoy the same games as me cause most my friends just play cod. i appreciate you, and love your channel. it’s awesome
Really appreciate the kind words man thanks! You have great taste in games
@@FranklyGaming thanks my dude
Another fellow 2000's rpg enthusiast!
I am almost double your age but I can tell you most of my friends were just playing cod back then too lol.
I can tell you what it is. The whole world and the way everything is designed is like diving into another world. And if that world is exactly your cup of tea, you don't want to leave anymore. The atmosphere, the lighting, the large empty and peaceful areas outside. All the shit you could do with magic - it was just like "yeah, do whatever you want, idc". And my favorite city and house in the game was bravil. So run-down, but when I decorated my house with everything I could find that would somehow match what I was aiming for ... Looting dungeons, bringing it back and spending HOURS trying to get one book onto the shelves, only to reload because you've just thrown the others across the room by trying to do that. It's just a (seemingly) endless medieval-fantasy-playground / sandbox. I even loved the dungeons - I mean, in reality they wouldn't look too differently either.
Just happy to see that others are still giving love to this gem as well, even after all these years
I got serious flashbacks because of your description of trying to organize your home 😂
@@Jort007for me it’s trying to set silverware cups and bowls back perfectly on my table after accidentally running into it. It was impossible- legitimately lol, the fruit/bread would never spawn in the right place ever again 😂 you HAD to reload lol
First time I played oblivion as a kid was when I was learning English as a second language, I didn't know what "over-encumbered" meant and my friend at school laughed at me when I asked about it. Replaying it later in life, it still has its charm, the game really has soul.
I had same problem as a kid. I didn't know what it meant and had to ask my older sister lol
My first ever character was a Wood Elf as well! I focused on sneak, archery, destruction, conjuration, restoration. I have thousand of hours on that Wood Elf. Oblivion is all nostalgia to me. I tried to play it again and just couldn’t get into it 😂 something about that first play through as a young lad being introduced to Tamriel for the first time.. life changing
Ya playing as a kid did just hit different hahs
Amazing, I played Oblivion for the first time shortly after playing through FO4 and I loved it, jankiness and graphics aside, it's just a more enjoyable experience. Not all that glitters is gold, as they say.
@@yoremothra9838 I never played the Fall Out series but I’ve heard they were great. I’m just more of a lord of the rings, elder scrolls, hobbiton type folk. I can’t wait for Elder Scrolls 6. I don’t care if I’m 35 by that time I’m putting in a thousand hours to that game. High Wizard 🧙🏻♂️
One of your best points that hit me was how magical it was discovering the dark brotherhood on your own, no spoilers, no content hunting, not knowing anything about them, this is how I like to approach new games. I will look up some reviews at best or a couple quick videos to display some simple trailer tier footage and play it or don't. Otherwise even if the game looks cool and I for whatever reason know I won't play it, only then will I dive deep in overviews and detailed reviews.
Yea same I wasn't watching any TH-cam videos to find all the content, it was magic. Kinda sad I fell into this bad habit lately, thx for reminding me to play games a different way again.
Oblivion, Fo3, Morrowind....for all of the shortcomings they hold up because they are from a time when making these games was an art form...there was a lot of love in the dev team (like the guy who wrote all of the books and thusly the lore making mods for Morrowind and Oblivion in his private time for free to share with us) that just isn't there anymore and won't be
After playing Oblivion for 95~ in game days, only playing the shivering isles dlc, a portion of the mage guild quests and a menagerie of side quests, I have realized how much of a corporate shell Skyrim is.
Skyrim is so serious, so bleak, and all of the quests and dungeons are just the same thing in different costumes. All the NPCs just say "need something?" As if i didnt just defeat the literal eater of worlds.
Oblivion feels like love and passion was poured into every single rock and tree. One minute I'm entering a painting to save an artist and his magic brush, the next I'm fighting a necromancer in the basement of my house. There's always something to do at the point that I'm at, and the whimsy and vibe the characters and world have makes everything feel right if yknow what I mean.
This is one of my favorite games of all time, and while I still love skyrim, there is nothing that can compare to the feeling of adventure Oblivion gives me.
Honestly I first played oblivion in 2017, years after playing 500+ hours of Skyrim and I love Oblivion more. The only mods I have installed are cosmetic enhancements for faces and equipment
You sir, are a legend!
Sound design, world building, and quests are the three pillars that make this game better than the rest. Just reinstalled it vanilla and have been putting in some hours into it.
It definitely has a charm to it, but man it’s got to be the best world of any elder scrolls. Skyrim’s world is cool for its cold mountainous landscapes, and Morrowind is great for its awe inspiring world and game mechanics, but you can’t beat Oblivion.
Also that dark brotherhood quest line is still unmatched and I don’t think it will ever be beat.
My dream MOD My idea is that the class you pick will represent the artwork, you exit the sewers wearing that armor set
To pick a Sorcerer for example, not some guy in a robe like you would imagine in your head, you of course can still roam the world or it’s many merchants and buy a robe or something, but if you look at the artwork of the class, Big long shield, hair tied in a bun, some strange looking cup in hand with white fire, shoulder armor on only one side ( like in Morrowind ) and long cloth pants similar to arabian bazaar market dealers wear
The MOD community of The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion is legendary, so i KNOW this can be done!
One of the best things about Oblivion that I've never seen anyone talk about, hopefully you rectify that, is how you can assign actions to more than one key. For example I have interact as the default 'e' but also mouse 3. Grab is the default 'z' and mouse 4.
Can't do that in Skyrim. I'd bet it's because of the consolization of the game. Oblivion came out for consoles, but iirc wasn't developed for them.
???? Look at Oblivion's ridiculously bad UI and rethink your statement. Mods like Darnified UI exist for a reason.
I always loved when you get out of the sewers at the beginning and a message pops up that says "Aight bruh, you can either follow the arrow on your compass or fuck off in any direction. Have fun!"
Though the Oblivion gate/worlds were repetitive, Oblivion had a really solid main quest, which I can't really say about Fallout 3 or Skyrim. The graphics leap from Morrowind to Oblivion was enormous too.
Oblivion will always have a special place in my heart for sure, thanks so much for watching!
Pre-Internet gaming was kind of crazy 🤣 I played Oblivion when I was young too!
Just testarted it today. I have well over a 1000 hours in it but its been so long since ive played it. Im kinda excited to play it again. I cant eait till the modders get the Skyblivion done. It will look great.
18:32 the watercolour artwork is epic as well
I have the white gold tower tattooed on my back, being taken over by dragons with a Daedra holding a decapitated Nords head and a Daedric sword in his hand next to his pet dragon far from the imperial city in the distance.
You mentioned the Thieves Guild questline and that reminds me one of my favorite moments in it. Minor spoilers
When you're doing quests for the Gray Fox and he mentions how the identity of the Gray Fox is a curse and that he's even told you his real name several times and you've already forgotten it. That's a great way of fourth wall breaking playing mind games on the players. When he said that I actually did a double take like wait when the hell did he say that?
Oblivion will always hold a special place in my heart it was my first Bethesda and elder scrolls game and also the first game I got when my dad got me an Xbox 360 for Christmas. Oblivion has this magical charm that can never be replicated.
It's be nice if Elder Scrolls 6 takes place all throughout Tamriel and depending on your race you start in a different province with different backstories for each race
That'd be awesome
“When you step out you become a Bethesda fan for life instantly” best way to put it 💯
A Wood Elf returning to his roots how quaint
I genuinely think Oblivion's NPC Argonians are the best, most attractive, expressive Argonians in the series. Their faces are so cute in this & the livid colouration is gorgeous.
Also Sir Mazoga the Orc. I would take an arrow in my knee for her.
I think the biggest failures of Skyrim and Fallout 4, compared to Oblivion and Fallout 3, were the scripted events that play out every playthrough the first you enter an area. Skyrim has three to four big ones per Hold; two or three per city and one or two per town. Fallout 4 has one for nearly every location, from the cities to the settlements to any raider infested ruin. Interiors within interiors may have scripted events; most buildings in Diamond City and Good Neighbor for example. It's even worse when you're dozens of levels or hours into a playthrough and one of these plays, and they don't take into account the players strengths, abilities, or story progression, hell even the time of day.
_Skyrim_
First time in Riverwood, "I saw a dragon!"
First time in Whiterun hold, the companions killing the giant.
First time in Dragonsreach, Jarl Balgruuf arguing with his brother and the Steward.
First time in Solitude, Roggvir's execution.
Etc.
_Fallout 4_
Second time in Sanctuary, robot butler's master returns.
First time at the Drumlin Diner, junky son owes caps.
First time in Diamond City, Piper's locked outside the gates.
First time in Good Neighbor, protection/toll scheme goes awry for unwitting citizen.
Etc.
Whereas in Oblivion and Fallout 3, there are so few that the world feels more natural. The world and it's people existed before the player showed up, they weren't waiting for you before putting on their little play. I'm really straining to even think of a list here. Oblivion, I actually can't think of any scripted events outside of ongoing quests, just NPCs approaching the player. Fallout 3, I can only think of Gob and Dr. Zimmer.
_Oblivion_
First time in Skingrad, Glarthir the town eccentric approaches you for help because he doesn't trust the locals.
First time in Chorrol, Dar-Ma approaches you to welcome you to town because she's so sweet.
First time in Kvatch, a crazy altmer screams about daedra attacking the city.
_Fallout 3_
First time in most towns, a named NPC approaches you to get a read on your intentions.
First time in Moriarty's Saloon, Gob is banging on the radio because its getting a poor signal.
First time in the Rivet City Lab, Dr. Zimmer is explaining the importance of finding his escaped synth to a local scientist.
Oblivion and Fallout 3 invite the player to live in the world. While Skyrim and Fallout 4 are putting on a show, desperately trying to keep your attention, even if they've already got it.
I recently started Oblivion for the first time....
In defense of the main story... Urial Septim was a major character in all previous Elder Scrolls game... I normally do not like Fantasy genre at all... but a genre is allowed to be a genre... Emperor Septim was an avid follower of the Nine and practiced Astrology.... In Elder Scrolls these religions are actually real without debate... its not like religion in our world where the existence of God and spirits are debatable... it can be Impreically demonstrated that these religions exist and are real in the Elder Scrolls universe... so his whole "you are the chosen side kick that will help Martin save the world " is a legit story telling Mechanic.... I feel like people expect everything to be an action hero game like Fallout NV, Skyrim, and Mass Effect... where a Game like Fallout 3 is more of a mystery genre where story elements are scattered throughout the map and not delivered in standard exposition of story points (and you might not get the whole story in a single play through), and Oblivion actually uses Fantasy elements to advance the story instead of some type of "action elements " to advance the story and deliver and exposition of key points...
So often I hear "Bethesda has bad writing " arguments based on the fact that the story being delivered in some other way than directly telling the story, or allowing the story to be told on the terms of the Genre of the story... and then the same people mostly Fallout NV cult boys will complain that Bethesda is dumbing down their games... it's a fair criticism that Bethesda is dumbing down their games, even Todd Howard acknowledged this talking about FO4 and Skyrim... but the main reason for this is people complaining that Bethesda isn't giving us a good story (translation: Bethesda isn't giving us a story that is simpler or that uses story telling devices that are normally bad but should be acceptable in specific genre of story telling)....
Edit: I got through the Vanille game... now I'm modding... and now I have mounted horse combat... and Yes Horse Armor is the GOAT DLC now
Oblivion brings all the sweet memories Back 💪🙏❤️
Shivering isles has got to be the best dlc of all time. Still can’t think of a better one. Closest would be blood and wine from Witcher 3 but there was just something different about shivering isles
I was young but still a huge Patrick Stewart fan so hearing him in a video game character was really cool for me.
I think another reason the landscape is so barren is to accommodate oblivion gates.
This might end up being a long post. Sorry in advanced.
To me, Skyrim lost the sense of wonder that Morrowind and Oblivion gave you upon start-up. In Morrowind, the game starts with you having a nightmare as some God whispers an ancient prophecy to you before you're abruptly awoken by your bunkmate who was concerned for you because you weren't looking right. A slaver comes below deck to your bunk and has you follow him outside where you're initially hit by this sense of awe where you're seeing familiar things like the boat, dock, builds and people, but you're also seeing crazy wondrous things like gigantic mushrooms and a humongous flea standing next to a set of stairs. You're then handed off to the Warrant Officer at which point he escorts you into the Seyda Neen office to officially document you for release. After building your character and you make it through the very brief tutorial inside that office building, you're let out into Seyda Neen proper with a note in your pocket saying "Go talk to this guy the next town over." and it leaves you to either do that or just go explore and discover til your heart's content.
--My first character was a Nord. Did everything in Seyda Neen I thought there was to do and began my trek towards what I thought was Balmora. Went spelunking in a cave that had a Necromancer in it. After killing the Necromancer I realized I couldn't move. Damn batard's minion hit me with a disease that lowered my endurance to 1 so I couldn't move. I pissed and moaned about it to my friend later that day when he came over and he looked at my character on Xbox and was like "Yeah that's why. You got a disease." and when I found out that they didn't just go away over time, I rerolled my character and made an Argonian based on my friends suggestion because they were resistant to Disease and Poison and that's the character I mained until I beat the game.
In Oblivion you get that intro cutscene that thanks to that song and Sir Patrick Stewart's delivery of those opening lines, that intro went FAR harder than it had any right to. Then of course you go through the tutorial prison thing, you finalize your character at the sewer gate entrance and the very first thing you see is this massive expansive world, and some long ancient ruins that's begging to be explored. And that music. Mmm. The music. Oh yeah. That music in Oblivion is/was such a vibe. That song that plays when you first step out of the sewers in Oblivion invokes in me the same feelings that the Majula theme song in Dark Souls 2 gives me.
--I don't know why I remember this, but one of my fondest memories of Oblivion was walking out of some dank forgotten and ruined Fort having just barely survived clearing it out by the skin of my teeth. I had no mana left to heal. Was all out of my health potions. The only weapon I had that wasn't broken was some dinky shortsword I hadn't leveled up because I was going a 2h plate build. I figured I'd go out of the keep, rest back up to full then my horse and I would ride back to town and sell off all of the treasure I just got. Couldn't rest in the keep because of some rat I left alive at the start of the delve and that I didn't have the health to try and fight afterwords. Got like 3 hours worth of rest in making it early morning when the rest was interrupted by a roaming pack of Goblins. Damn things killed my horse and nearly killed me. I started walking back to the Imperial City because I was stupid back then and thought that because Morrowind didn't have fast travel that Oblivion didn't either. Fast travel wasn't something that even popped into my mind as an option in games at the time. At that point in time fast-travelling in a game to me just meant you ride a static, game-controlled mount from one spot to another like in WoW. I walked up a hill through the trees and grass and at the top of the hill I caught a glimpse of the Imperial City as the sun began to rise behind it. I'll never forget just how large that game world felt after that, or all the wondrous things I had yet to experience or discover.
Skyrim doesn't do any of that though. The forest you ride through looks cool and all, but it doesn't open up into anything except another claustrophobic town. The carriage ride itself felt rather claustrophobic because you couldn't fully pan the camera around, you were stuck in like a 180 degree wedge. Then you just arrive in the center of a town where there's people piled to your left, buildings to your right and nothing visually really going on ahead of you. Then as you're about to be executed the big bad dragon shows up and everybody soils themselves, at which point you flee into the keep where you go with either the sympathetic Imperial or the zealot rebel and fight your way through the keep. Even once you step outside of Helgen into relative safety, it's not like it opens up into this crescendo of the main theme and a sweeping vista or anything like that. It's more cramped, dense trees and rocks that obscure more than anything 20 feet away from you. It's not until like 2 hours into your new character once you're ready to leave Riverwood and head to Whiterun do you get hit with a big, open field view of the game world, and even that is obscured mainly by Whiterun itself. Skyrim, while still a fantastic game, doesn't capture the wonder and amazement that is the opening segments of Morrowind and Oblivion, and I'm afraid TES VI probably wont either unfortunately.
Did not care for that panda in the background... Spent most of the video keeping an eye on him, waiting for him to like, move a foot or something.
He’s the only reason I get views hshs
Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Hitman Blood Money (Xbox 360), 2006 was a great year.
I remember playing this on my old pc, it had TLB or "Toggle Light Bright" on by default. Removed all shadows to make the game playable. Caves were more lit than the overworld.
Well that didn't take long :P
Thoroughly the stream man.
Ya was probably the easiest thing to edit ever lol, appreciate the love brother
Thoroughly enjoyed**, I ain't editing the comment and losing my heart!
@@u0aol1 😂
I love it, addictive as hell, and spell making. Just know how to level up/major minor skills, and be happy
I think my favorite TES is still Morrowind (maybe because it was also my first contact with the series as well as it's location (I really like Dunmer and Dwemer - that Sotha Sil DLC in ESO is my 2nd most fav part of that game), though I also simply like openness and various systems more - it's a game since before the great dumbing down began with Oblivion (I know that Daggerfall is even more complex in some areas but that's completely different era, not only for games but even for TES series). I liked 3 houses + guild quests (especially skill requirements to advance and the duel for the title of Archmage), I liked how cities were not afraid to be complex (one word: Vivec), the freedom of movement with jump and levitation spells, etc.
Granted, there were many improvements developed in later games (I think I like Skyrim's Vampirism the most, followed by Oblivion's), obviously the modding capabilities and few others (graphics is definitely not one of them - BGS' games always look dated on their day one).
But I agree, Oblivion has some very strong unique points about it that can't be rivaled by other games (Shimmering Isles might be my favorite part of TES series). That escape-room mission from Dark Brotherhood where you have to kill everyone without raising suspicions? Masterpiece. Finally, Frostcrag Spire (with some mod upgrades to not make it feel so empty) might be my favorite player house that's not 100% from mod as well.
Granted, I almost exclusively play heavily modded so many of my points might be incorrect when applied to vanilla games, but still...
I’m excited for my son to grow up and have his first “Bethesda Experience” debating if he should start on Oblivion or Fallout 3
Oblivion on Xbox360 was my first Elder Scrolls game. I'll never forget accidentally killing someone (a guard I think?) running out of town, hiding, then resting. Just to find a Dark Brotherhood member looming over me the next morning! I thought I was going to get arrested lol.
Had a Khajit theif type that could one shot people with punches to the back of the head. Would leap over buildings with the grey fox hood. Good times!
I was so addicted to this game when it came out that it was scary. I got it like a month or two after it came out after seeing it in a magazine and I barely left my computer (I played it on PC) over a week long period. I made a shitload of mistakes on my first character that was a Khajiit Acrobat and I still have the save file on my old hard drive. I didn't understand the levelling system until my second character so I had to turn the difficulty slider to the easiest possible to even kill anything lol!
It was so much fun jumping from rooftop to rooftop and cheesing the game by using a bow and jumping on top of pillars in Ayleid ruins or to break line of sight with enemies to get away.
I played Skyrim but it just wasn't the same with the lack of Acrobatics, Unarmed, and Spellcrafting. Plus, Skyrim's story and quests were horrible compared to Oblivion and it was far too serious for my taste.
Just finished Skyrim. And that makes me find out I love Oblivion. Oblivion is a game full of atmosphere. And the dialogues are so real and fun to me. Skyrim kind of weakens the personality of NPCs, making them no souls, compared to Oblivion. Everything is too reasonable and plain in Skyrim. Dragons are not so exciting. I can't get the thrill I got in Oblivion in Skyrim. Same with fallout 4, Bethesda is going downhill, trying to build farming games to make people spend lots of time. The spirit of RPG is disappearing. Bethesda's peak is Morrowind and Oblivion. Skyrim is okay, to be honest.
This game is what I used to convince my mother to get me an XBOX. Also, first time I played it, I left the sewers when it was nighttime. I then went around not knowing where to go as I could not see where anything was. I ended up seeing what I later found to be a necromancer, got scared thinking it was a world boss, and ran off.
Oblivion the one thing I like is alot people will remember you and call you by your ranks in the guilds you join were skyrim doesn't which sucks.
In all honesty, Oblivion feels more forward-looking and ambitious than Skyrim. The quests and NPC programming are genuinely much more complex and fleshed out. The systems in general run so much deeper but you don't actually need to go that deep in order to enjoy yourself and do well. I really don't think Skyrim was ahead of its time, it felt like a big step back in almost every way.
Also while I agree the main quest isn't as well written as many side quests, I don't agree that you're a chosen one or even that the main quest is super cheesy. Martin is the chosen one, you're just the guy who was meant to be in the right place at the right time to make sure Martin got to the end of his path. You're not any more of a chosen one than Baurus. And while they could have done Uriel's death a little better, nothing changes the ultimate point that it was his time to die and pass the torch to his last remaining heir. The details of how he was going to die don't matter as much.
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Oblivion was my first elder scrolls game, and I definitely remember having that moment of "holy shit, games can do that", but I find myself returning to Skyrim more often than not I just don't know why
How about the fact you could create custom spells? Or you could become 100 percent Chameleon? Ya it was the best
Oblivion is my favorite Elder Scrolls too.
It has a lot of charm that got me into the series while Skyrim is very boring.
I finally got around to playing this recently. Haven’t beat it yet, but odd i’m just not playing it considering i have had it for years and years…
SkyBlivion is on the way,hope it comes out soon🙏
Sure oblivion had the better quest experience (though barely imho). But atmosphere, exploration and immersion - skyrim. Which is what I play bethesda games for. Not to mention combat, graphics, mods etc which favors skyrim by far.
I used to always say Oblivion was better… but I replayed Skyrim recently and fell in love with it like I was playing it for the first time. It’s so much more immersive and interesting then Oblivion. It just feels alive while Oblivion feels very lifeless, and the Npcs are ridiculous. Sure it has better rpg mechanics but who plays Skyrim without mods anyways. I do like the overall aesthetic more in oblivion. Hoping we get a more bright and colorful world in ES6
This was the first one I played. I loved it. Didn't know anything about it really. Bought it used at GameStop because I thought it looked cool. I played as a dark elf. Hadn't played it since then. I recently got back into Skyrim and started modding it. Which was awesome. But the more I played it. The more I missed oblivion. So I got it. Modding it is another story but I'm loving it. But a day or two after I got it and restarted it. I saw the trailer for Skyblivion. Maybe I should just wait.
This was the first Elder Scrolls I played too, and the main reason I picked up an XB360. I must've easily put many hundreds of hours into the game and just enjoyed living in the world. It was just so far beyond anything available at the time. Had a big fat strategy guide with a million sticky notes placed all through it for quests and just cool things to read through. While objectively, Skyrim is a 'better' game, it never felt like it had the magic and soul that Oblivion does. Time to start another playthrough!
It's absolutely criminal that a video like this gets so little views. Don't be disheartened by it. As far as I'm concerned, it's worth is not diminished.
I always made kahjits myself first thing I did was always the thieves guild
Cyrodiil had some great stuff but I wish Micheal Kirkbride could have done a bit more lore and design for it... imagine more rennaisance/fake roman designs and such
You literally made the Little Caesar's guy.
If Skyrim was a gem, and Morrowind was a soul, Oblivion would be Azura's Star
Oblivion used to be my favourite Elder Scrolls game because of the soundtrack and quests, but Bethesda cut way too many rpg mechanics away compared to Morrowind and especially Daggerfall. While Skyrim ended up having zero rpg mechanics lol.
Anyone who mains a Kahjiit is sus and probably a furry
Love the video. Morrowind and subsequently Fable were my first loves in the RPG genre. Love Morrowind and Oblivion. Oblivion was some of the most hype I ever experienced for a game haha Good times.
Side note: Dark Messiah: Might and Magic had the most technologically advanced physics back then for an RPG. That game blew me away.
man, oblivion graphics when it came out? way ahead of its time, nothing would come close for years after
The game was great because it was made before the age of micro transactions. After the PS3/360 started making 25 dollar DLCs gaming studios gave up on making fun and beautiful projects. It has to be a 200+ Gig game, that sets your console on fire and breaks it due to under performance possessing. 200+ plus dollar deluxe editions, charge them 20$ for a blue skin in the E Shop. And a credit card registration requirement. Mario 3 1997 is a better game than anything else in todays market, you know why? It's only 3 bucks. And it doesn't crash.
Top 5 game OAT for me
This is the undisputed facts. Those who's first Elder Scrolls game was Daggerfall, then Daggerfall is the best. If they started with Morrowind, then Morrowind is the best. If they started with Oblivion, then Oblivion is the best. Skyrim doesn't count because the only way anybody plays Skyrim is if they mod it until it's not Skyrim anymore but a whole other game entirely.
Thanks for making this video. I found it cute and funny. It fed my nostalgia. Even though u trolled😂
I played oblivion to death, 100s of hours. Got skyrim when it came out. I've never competed it. I'd get so far then get bored. Leave it for months, start again, get bored. Oblivion for me was better written, the main story was more compelling, and it was more interesting.
Liked before i watch the video casue damm rught oblivion is better
It's an older game but you should check out Gothic 2:the night of the raven. A lot of the things Bethesda added to Oblivion were done 1st on that game by Piranha Bytes. It's more janky than Bethesda's games but good fun.
I started playing Bethesda games with morrowind. I didn't play much. Skyrim was the big one for me no doubt. Fallout 3 definitely pushed that further when I went back and played that after skyrim I believe or possibly before I honestly can't remember. Fallout 4 is better than many give credit and Oblivion is better than Skyrim in a lot of ways but the nostalgia of Skyrim wins every time for me haha. I'm pretty excited for Starfield because I love Bethesda games and I don't care what people say to be fair. Orc for life in skyrim and Redguard in Oblivion.
Oblivion was way better than Skyrim. I'm not just saying that because it's the first one I played because I'm starting to like Daggerfall and Morrowind more than Oblivion and Skyrim. It's not because Skyrim got dumbed down either. Oblivion's just more colorful and vibrant and the guilds are much better. Also has the best expansion ever in Shivering Isles something that Skyrim's dragonborn comes close too but still does not feel as big.
Well the skills where more of an arena thing lol
Ya I’ll have to play arena someday lol
@@FranklyGaming same but most of the modern skills (oblivion and skyrim even morrowind to a certain extent) have completely toned down the skills
Jeremy also did morrowinds music also
And you gotta love that jank lol
@@dps9390 ya I’m hoping Starfield can bring some really crazy stuff I imagine it will be closer to oblivion skyrim tho
Getting through this one. Been obsessed with you since 2 months ago
Appreciate all the support David!
Oblivion is the Luke Skywalker of the Elder Scrolls.
Last of the old, first of the new.
For better or worse.
Edit: Orc Master Race!
Really good way to say it, honestly one of the biggest reasons it’s my favorite elder scrolls
@@VrilWaffen How dare you good sir! I am flabbergasted at the very notion you would insult such a pure and hard working race! Blasphemy I say, blasphemy!
Oblivion was the perfect point imo for a video game rpg, Skyrim felt far more limiting despite the huge improvements in mechanics and the like.
Two words: Art direction
Love Oblivion, still the best elder scrolls especially with mods to fix its few flaws. coughlevellingcough
Off topic though you need to make some way for that giant panda plushy to raise its head or wave or something every so often. Then never talk about it on video. Epic troll.
Fishing line and pullies would do it on the cheap. Lego technic maybe, or get all fancy with extruded aluminum and stepper motors...
Best ? He'll no daggerfall and morrowind wipe the floor with oblivion
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and to top it all off, fuck all horses, even shadowmere lol. Oblivion 15/10.
28:50 i was just playing maybe killed an innocent or smth and i go to sleep wake up see this dude but i ignored him i did not in the other moments and now my main walk thru is a dark sister cuz my character is a woman
Wonderfull Video - Brings up the Good ol' Times again :)
Agreed, oblivion is the best
Congrats on the channel success eh I remember when u had like 200 subs lol maybe even less
Appreciate it matt ya been doing really well recently
@@FranklyGaming u deserve it man even back than u had heart now your geting the pay off 🙏🙏
26:30 Clearly you've never been to the cloud district. ;)
9:30 play Nehrim xd
It's a great game.
Oblivion is better because no amount of mods can fix the bad writing, bad quest, bad story and bad guilds of Skyrim. That is why Skyrim has so many mods, it's because it's missing so much shit.
Best game of all time
I still love Oblivion for all its faults, it is still great fun.....
LISTEN THAT MUSIC !!!!
Wow... Just unintentionally gave parents a reason to not let their children play Oblivion. 28:36
(Sarcasm detected)
I'm such an oblivion freak I have to be in a mood to play Morrowind or Skyrim. You're too damn slow. Plus no athletics or acrobatics skill in Skyrim. I feel cemented to the ground when I play it. It's painfully overrated imo, Oblivion has obvious flaws but is so much better especially with mods. Morrowind is decent but I just can't get over the spell and hit chance percentage. If I connect an object to another object, I fuckin hit you.
In some ways yes. Quests were better. Leveling and Combat was not.
Oblivion FTW
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Fallout 4 is pathetic except for its snipers, where you can hold your breath and stalk NPCs, but Oblivion is the best game ever made 1st to Wrath of the Lich King 2nd.