Ultimate X-Men Breaks The Mold
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- The Ultimate Universe has returned, sorta kinda, Earth 6160 has been reshaped by the Maker. It's a world where heroes have had their paths diverted and into this universe enters a whole new take on the X-Men. Peach Momoko writes and illustrates a story about Hisako Ichiki a.k.a Armor as she comes into her powers as a young girl in Japan. This story has captivated some and left others with some questions. We discuss it all here on Casually Comics!
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Who Is Your Least Favorite Mutant And Why?
Madame Webb because she shouldn’t have been one, and yeah, that movie. Thanks Sony.
Quentin Quire I used not mind him and sometimes found him entertaining but at some point some switched just flipped in my head and I really don't like him
Stacy X - because her powers are just...😬
I'm not overly familiar with the mutants made after 2000. I'd have to say Emma Frost because I don't like the extremely power psychic that can turn into diamond thing being logical also I like hear more as a villain and I don't like she became a rebound girl for Scott Summers.
- What are you reading?
- The X-Men. It's one of my favorites.
- What do you like about it?
- For one thing, I like their variety of powers. This one controls the weather, this one shoots energy beams from his eyes, this one can turn his body into metal, this one can walk through walls...
- And that one?
- ...
- What's her power?
- She can... um... make people puke and have orgasms 😅
I think that far too many people expected this to have a set team from the get-go and forgot this was building the mutants of this universe from the ground up; no school in Westchester, no Xavier, no Magento. Just kids having to figure their powers out all on their own (which is relatable, ngl).
But if there's no team then it isn't really X-Men, it's more of Ultimate Mutants. As long as a team of mutants who live together and are a family shows up I'm fine with how it starts.
@@tylerrichardson3034 well, it seems like in issue 4 there will be a team.
@tylerrichardson3034 they didn't say no team. They said building a team as they go.
@@devanbarrios9216 Is there currently a team? if the answer is no then so far the book isnt about a team.
I think this is a really cool take on the X-Men! I'm here for it!!!
_Breaks The Mold_
The Master Mold lol
Just a fun little thing my Mother, the English Teacher used to say about hanged and hung: "Horses are hung, people are hanged"
😮😂
lol - my German language teacher told us that. He'd have probably been sacked nowadays.
It definitely cemented the definitions and usage though. Stopped me from forgetting.
The book is exactly what I thought it would be, like The Mangaverse from 20 years ago, but you know, made by an actual Japanese person.
I originally only got the book because I love Peach Momoko's art and I'm glad I did because I really like it
I guess since it's in Japan, if they ever want to connect it back to the "main" setting, they can include one of the strory lines where Wolverine gets sad in Japan
Logan is already confirmed to be dead in this universe. You can see his skeleton as one of the Maker's trophies.
@@HawkatanaJimmy Hudson, Daken, X-23, or whatever, can wear the claws.
As to the question of whether the art style is too different and if Marvel needs a house style - I remember when Jack Kirby was working for DC in his pre-Fantastic Four days. DC had a house style and they kept insisting that he change his artwork to fit it. Jack Kirby of all people! That is a big reason why he left DC and went to work for Marvel. That and the dust up over Kirby's Sky Masters comic strip. (The greatest "what if?" story in comics history!)
I love seeing wildly different art styles!
The only thing I ask is that it's not changed within a run where possible (thematic reasons excluded, of course)
I've seen a couple cases where it's changed within an issue, presumably due to trying to hit a deadline, at which point I'd much prefer they just delayed.
@@SimonBuchanNz Me too and i agree.
I absolutely loved it and I personally feel that it being so disconnected from the X-men at the start makes it pretty easy for newer readers to get into the series
How you know you're a nerd: when you describe something as a "psionic exoskeleton", and just assume people will know what that means.
I mean, yeah, I know what it means, but I too am a big ol' nerd.
Through a series of random events, I have taken over as manager of a comic shop. Your channel has been AMAZING for getting me up to speed on many topics as well as getting me excited about the hobby. This is a great channel.
I’ve been reading X-men for over 30 years and I’m loving Peach’s take on them.
To be fair we haven't seen her take on the X-Men yet because they aren't in the book. I'm loving her take on Armor and her story, though.
Damn I’ve heard you use voice changers before but the one for the shadowy figure is really top notch
Okay, since this more manga/anime, i can't wait for the inevitable tournament arc, with X-Men powers would be pretty fun
TOURNAMENT ARC!!!
Momoko's work is so cute, I can't wait to see more of her stuff. I just hope she balances well the new ideas with stablished X-men stuff. I haven't been reading lot of Marvel recently though.
Also, kind of off topic, but i read Unstoppable Doom Patrol recently and it's very X-meny. I think it's really fun when a franchise is created taking inspiration from another one, but then the first take reference back. I already like Doom Patrol more, if an author is able to do the social commentary that X-men is able to do while also diving into the bizarre and insane like Doom Patrol does, I may have my favorite comic ever.
I enjoyed the first issue, but it also read more like a mini-series than anything that'd last long-term. Which feels weird for the opening lineup of a brand new Ultimate universe.
I mean I assume it'll start with a bit of a solo arc for Hisako that could have been a mini, but then develop some threads leading to her meeting other mutants.
Honestly, loved this first issue. People are allowed their preferences, but when they use that as if it's a legitimate criticism it becomes an issue. Variety is the spice of life. Comics don't have to look or be told one way, even big mainstream ones. Also, like there were different X-men teams labeled as X-men starting with the 90s(extreme x-men, new x-men, x-men gold, x-men blue, etc).
I liked the authenticity elseworlds vibe of it all
When she screamed "Persona!!!" I couldn't believe it
This is gonna be a way past cool series! Can’t wait for the next issue!
Whenever I hear "the continuity is too intimidating", I think "Just write stories that don't require an encyclopedic knowledge of a century of comic book history!"
But no, it's always "Let's add another universe" or "let's reboot the universe". You know, the simple solution 😂
That is always my thought. B/c they just so quickly revert BACK to the most rich experience to reading a "reboot" is to know what was before. They can't seem to help themselves and limit to small scale.
Continuity hasn't even been a thing for comics for over two decades.
Marvel has literally never had a reboot. You people manufacture your own drama.
This is why I hate the New 52: It rebooted the Post-Crisis continuity when there was no need to, and its been the catalyst for numerous annoying continuity shifts and decisions that make things extremely complicated for no reason, like the now yearly Crisis's, or N52 Superman's death and merger.
I honestly never got what was the problem that led to the first crisis on infinite earths and created the whole universe reboot thing.
At that point there was something like 4 or 5 universes but mainly you'd only hear of Earth 1 and Earth 2 during the annual Justice League meets Justice Society crossover. It wasn't really that complicated.
EVERYTHING that came after Crisis got way more complicated than any problem they had before. Legion of Superheroes turned into a complete mess.
I'm in love with your Shadow King voice.
I love peach momokos art style I was introduced to it playing marvel snap and I can’t get enough
The Shadow King voice gives the ASMR tingles lol
I’ve been collecting some of Momoko’s work. And am a big fan of anime and manga so I’m really looking forward to this one.
I’ve seen some different takes on the X-men like when they had there own anime series and another anime series for wolverine.
I imagine we’ll probably be getting allot more of the Aisha X-Men in this series. Psylock, Surge, Armor, maybe jubilee. And this is an interesting new take on the Shadow king if this is him.
Definitely looking forward to this one.
When she said "Star Platinum: Za Warudo" I started crying all over the page
She never said that
@@kingofdragons7😆
@@Saturndragonfly ?
@@kingofdragons7it's a reference.
“Suhtando Powah!”
it was nice to see a story based in another culture outside of America ... i think this might be the shadow king
So basically Hickman is based and used the new Ultimate "universe" as an excuse to give Momoko a cool fresh X-Men project to make. I won't be mad if this book never connects directly with any other Ultimate book or story, better yet I wouldn't be mad if at some point the book is spun off from the Ultimate universe and is just Peach Momoko's X-Men. This book truly feels like a real reimagining of the X-Men and not just a fresh coat of the same X-Men paint.
I knew the art would be different when I went into this comic, but I hadn't been prepared for just how different the storytelling would be, so that hit pretty hard. I definitely enjoyed the issue though, I'm excited to see where it goes.
Luv ultimate x-men.. ty4 ur vid 😊
Looking forward to a completely fresh take
Love Peach's artwork.
I got a soft spot for Noriko/Surge and was hoping she'd make appearance. Some of those quotes you pulled have me thinking there's no chance of her popping in.
Either excited to add the trade to my collection
Funny you say this, she’s going to appear in this series in issue 4! Along with Nico Minoru (who’s said to first appear in issue 3) and 2 new characters named Mori (who could be Molly Hayes of this universe) and Natsu (a Cyclops inspired character?). Also Rogue will be there to
@whatok3273 oh wow. My hype level just went up. Thank you
I genuinely love that it is such a different take on the material. I think people forget that we can see more of the classic characters in other books like Strom in black panther
I think it's less of not seeing the classic characters and more of X-Men is a team book and we have nothing of a team so far. I'm assuming they're just using the first few issues to set up Armor and soon she'll join a team of mutants who become her family.
@@tylerrichardson3034 I guarantee you it will become a Team book. I think it's going for a runways vibe
creepy Sasha! well done! God damn Shadow King, messing with Magneto and Storm too!
yea, Hair is never good news lol
You’re currently breaking the mold of my feed algorithm.
I did find it interesting that her friend in the first issue was named Tsubasa since that means wing, I'm curious if it's a coincidence or a sign a little more is being taken than it seems on first glance.
I'm intrigued enough to give Ultimate X-Men a few more issues and I don't need Charles, Scott, Ororo or the Brotherhood specifically, but I do hope it becomes more of an X-Men book: a team of mutants dealing with anti-mutant prejudices and mutant threats.
A hill I will die on is that "decimate" means "reduce by a tenth". The word all the decimate-misusers really want is "devastate". Or "f___ up".
Language is morphological. It meant that once, but it simply doesn't anymore.
You know what? I also appreciate the effort you put into researching these videos! Not to get too parasocial but you be teaching me a lot!
X-Men 97 brought me to your channel and I'm loving it! Both your channel and the show. I haven't read any of the new ultimate universe books but starting with Hickman and peach is DEFINITELY the right move. Two of my favorite marvel contributors to date.
Thanks again for the great content! Excited to see if you keep up with 97 but bring people back to the comics is also super rad ✌️
Psionic exoskeleton....like Dr. Cecilia Reyes? I took quite a shine to that character,only for her to be almost completely forgotten after a short time.
Very similar power, Armor just leans more into the combat applications (and is willing to be an X-Man).
@@joelpartee594 heh! Cecilia's definitely didn't lend themselves to combat applications,that's for sure!
I really like the art. The villain really freaked me out at points.
We need more creepy comics that get main line treatment
The art style is so good
Luv the story so far.. and highly appreciated your review
I had zero desire to return to the Ultimate universe. I had picked up the titles back in the 99s-00s and they contributed to comics burnout that led to 10+ years away from them. The only reasons I picked up UXM #1 is BECAUSE of her art and vision. I already read the 616 X-titles. I don't need more of the same. I loved her work on Demon Days and Demon Wars, and I'm excited to read a take on my favorite title WITHOUT being encumbered by 60+ years of continuity. Peach has a unique vision and I'm here for it!
Ultimate Spider-Man is good if you want to see Peter actually be able to have a family and be happy with his personal life.
#1- Love the hair
#2- Love ' time of recording" yee I buy your merch
#3- I really like this comic
Love the artwork.
I love that Armor is being utilized and given an authentic, culturally driven story. She was a fantastic creation by Whedon/Cassaday who deserves this treatment!
This sounds awesome!
Armor/Hisako was my favorite newer X-MEN. I'm thrilled to have a series centeic around her. I ordered the trade paperback. Sadly, it doesn't get released until November.
I love horror manga and X-MEN, so I'm ready.
I never read the first Ultimate Universe stuff, but Hickman doing this new version intrigued me, so I gave them all a shot. I really enjoyed Ultimate Invasion, Spider-Man, and Black Panther. Ultimate X-Men was the one I was really iffy about because I'm not a manga fan or reader. Turns out I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. I like books like this that take big chances with the audience but are very sound storywise. I'm still fully on board with this whole line into the foreseeable future. Good review!
I’m excited by it! We have the main X-Men titles still which still focuses heavily on the main mutants we know. This is a great chance to give some characters that fall to background in 616 to have some focus with a fresh spin. Also I am glad she picked Armor
I love the style and direction, super in love with how Armour's, well, armour is depicted here but I do agree that it feels a little odd as the main "X-men" series for the new Ultimate universe. On that however, I get that it's only issue 1 and I look forward to the future, I'm always up for stories that take place in other countries too with so many comics taking place in America it's always fun to see the setting as seen from elsewhere and I do think that the X-Men and mutants in general are the best part of Marvel to do that with, I'm very optimistic about this
I really think that the absolute best time to bring in a new voice and reimagine a character or franchise is right when they're starting out in a new universe/continuity. So now is the perfect time to bring in someone with a freash perspective that is not as familiar with the characters. If you're doing a continuation you want someone who's very aware of the at least the most recent stories and characterizations, but a new world means a new idea, a new direction you can take them without changing the character dramatically. Character continuity, not setting continuity, is more important to me at least. They have to feel like the same person from the end of one arc to the start of another, you know?
Yay! A comic video!
The cartoon videos are fun, but It's great to hear about comics again!
I read it. The first issue did a great job of introducing the character but I think this might hold together better once there are multiple issues, and I can see the arc more clearly.
Love your Shadow King voice. What effects did you use on that?
I was really looking forward to this because I really liked her "Demon" saga! I really liked this and am fully on board for the coming ride!
I am so happy that people are talking about X-Men. After the Fox movies and them not being in the MCU I thought that Disney was just going to put them in limbo for a long time. Which they did but with X-Men 97 the curse is now broken. It is a good time to be an X-Men fan
I love Momoko's art, and i'm excited to see where this book goes
I loved this first issue. It read and felt like a manga and it's probably why I liked it so much.
Two things I'd love your take on -- Monstress (current Image comic) and the New Universe (1980s Marvel attempt at a new universe).
Giving all the new Ultimate titles a shot and this one was the most unique. Definitely going to at least get through the first story arc.
I love this book, but I'll admit it's not what you'd expect from a book called "Ultimate X-Men"
I think the ideal amount of familiarity is someone who wasn't super familiar when asked to do the book, but goes through a sort of crash course and becomes a fan right before working on it. The example I'm thinking of is Robert Venditti's Hawkman run.
1:40 AND Jimmy Hudson!!
Don't forget Jimmy Hudson!!
(I think Marvel already did.)
Comics were Horror, Cowboys, Army and (mystic or not) Vigilantly well before Superheroes came along. So it makes me glad that we can have elements like an update of those old or forgotten comic traits. That said I understand that this is titled X-Men. But generally patience is going to pay off 😁🤘
I'm sort of torn on this, but I do like that it sort of plays with the idea that Mutants aren't being recruited to Xavier's school (presumably the Maker killed Xavier?), so I like that it's a more solo affair in that regard. But yeah I'm one of those who was hoping for a more classical X-Men story.
Though hopefully some day Marvel will do an Ultimate X-Factor to give us Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Bobby and Warren! I'd like to see how their lives panned out without the school.
I absolutely love the series so far and issue two is amazing as well. Personally I think it fits in the X-Men mold as it’s literally about being an outcast and dealing with coming of age powers while facing internal struggles. As an avid Marvel reader (I spend about $55 a week 😭) this is by far the book I’m most excited for at the moment. I would also like to give a shout out to the current Captain Marvel run as I’m having a really fun time with it.
I was a huge 1610 fan back in the day. (Loeb kinda killed it for me with Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum --- honestly the creation of The Maker was one of the last things I read). However, your vids on this relaunch kinda makes me wanna get floppies again.
This artwork and style remind me of Marvels The Runaways, which I am a fan off, so that’s a nice influence on the X-Men
Thanks for the review of Ultimate X-Men. I haven't read an X book since Astonishing, but Ultimate sounds fun, different, and interesting.
Ive been reading demons days so seeing this makes me so happy i hope it does well. I love her take and art style.
I've got her Binding of Isaac Four Souls playmat and use it as my mouse pad for work. Cool seeing a whole book of her artwork
Looks interesting 🤔
I think there's something to be said for UXM #1 being a very slow burn. It spends the entire issue focused on Armor, delving and developing her personal story. This deliberately more measured pacing reminds me of the manga I used to read, and tempered my expectations (of how fast the story should be developing)
That’s an awesome Looney Toons dress 🔥🔥🔥
Can we have more Loise Lane videos? i loved those, and i am always amazed at the gorgeous art comics used to have.
In my heart of hearts i hope these X-Men appear in another book and still have their own art style. Even though that would probably be a headache to make and look funny.
I like Peach's art, I like lot of anime & there story telling, so I'm interested to see where this goes.
I hope Peach brings back the Master Form.
Ho no the shadow King is going to be a villain that is going to be breinge chaos
I went into this cautious because it looked so different from the rest of the other Ultimate Universe art styles, and I remain cautious about how events transpiring here would impact the global machinations of Maker's Council. Howerver, I thoroughly enjoyed this book, and like the fresh take on Armor's powers - seemingly being somewhat independent of her will - as well as the creepiness of the Shadow King (if that turns out to be him).
Given this interview, I'm hopeful for a few things. 1. Concerning Peach specifically: I hope this team discusses their long term plans with the Ultimate team and wherever they're going does align with the rest (even if in a way that makes them separated). 2. Now that we have this, I'm actually curious to see pockets of other nationalities' crop of mutants, rendered in their thematic artistry (even an experimental old-world Mayan or Ancient Egypt hieroglyphic style would be fun); even as rotating mini-series. 3. A separate book, after this has established itself more of course, that plants another batch of mutants to form a team of X-Men that does interact, and have a closer style, with the SM, BP and Ultimates books.
To resummarize, yeah, I want more of this, even more that is different, and also one title that is mainstream, and the X-Men title is actually the right thing to do that with.
I like the manga art style. I get them bringing more obscure Mutants to the forefront but I do hope to see some classics in at some point. Especially Wolverine since it's set in Japan and Wolverine has connections to that area.
And I hope to See Gambit at some point just because he's my favorite
I’ve been reading the new ultimate from the start and this is an interesting start to the X-Men title, I’ll keep up and see where this leads. I haven’t read much X-Men so I’m not as attached and open to whatever is coming
The art is amazing. The story sounds interesting. The loose association with X-Men history might work in its favor, as everything else about it is so foreign to what I would usually expect in an X-man comic. I'd almost want to approach it as its own thing.
I kind of like the idea of following mutants or a mutant group from a different part of the world entirely, while I love Wolverine, Jean, Scott, we've heard their stories so many times, and mutants in general were supposed to be such a rich and far-reaching idea, the concept of people with special powers existing all over the world. Mostly, it feels like we got the X-Men in New York, and then a couple small enemies groups. Japan is an interesting place to center a new team.
Wouldn't be mad if they decided to bring in other Japanese mutants as well, like Jun Tenta aka Sumo.
I really like this. I'm very intrigued to see what She does, and who will be brought in.
I admit that while I enjoyed the issue, it doesn’t click with me for an “Ultimate X-Men” series. I would enjoy an “Armor” series continuing this way but, as you say, it’s a bit too removed from X-Men for me to quite feel comfortable yet with it. (I’m assuming more elements will come into play so I’m reserving a bit of judgement). I think the reason I feel this is because in the rest of the Ultimate “connecting” story, “Iron Lad” has been trying to bring back the heroes who had “their destiny stolen from them”. That’s absent from here and makes the title feel too separate from the relaunch.
Also: hang / hung - hill you’ll die on… you’re just trying to see whose dark sense of humour will break first and crack a comment. Dirty pool. :)
Oh, and least favourite mutant can vary but maybe Jean Grey or Chuck.
This is generally how I feel as well, doesn't feel like X-Men or part of the new Ultimate Universe either its a cute stand alone thing but I wouldn't call this comics X-Men at all (future issues may change my mind) so I still feel like I am missing my Ultimate X-Men, they finally relaunched the Ultimate Universe, which I loved (up until close to the end), and they're missing my favorite part. I'm really glad Marvel was willing to do something different though and hope all her fans enjoy.
Out of the current x-line up following the fall of Krakoa, this series the one I’m most interested in honestly
The hung/hanged distinction is a hill of mine as well! The only time I'll really accept "hung" instead of hanged is in _My Fair Lady,_ when Henry Higgins says (since Rex Harrison doesn't really sing), "By right she should be taken out and hung / for the cold-blooded murder of the English tongue." But that's because of rhyming needs…Also because it's amusing to me to think that someone literally as hung-up on "proper English" as Henry Higgins would err in that way.
Love this.
Now I'm intrigued enough to go buy this.
Thanks Sasha
I really enjoyed this issue! The artwork and how it read, looking forward to more!
I really like Armor; it's a shame she doesn't seem to appear in much, I really enjoyed her in the X-Men anime despite not being thrilled by it much overall, she's a very interesting and cool character.
I ❤ Sasha's readings. Can you do a video of you just reading a story? Read us a story Auntie Sasha!
Audio nerd here! How did you do the vocal effect for the Shadow King?
I am reserving judgement on this series until we see what it has to do with X-Men
Nice voice effect…brava!!
Love me my Peach Momoko variants on Marvel Snap!! Also, I love Armor, so I might have to buy these issues for myself instead of relying on others to get the story
I would love to see something that takes on the global nature of the mutants. I always thought that was a strength of the Chris Claremont run. The outcast nature means a lot of them are disconnected to start with. But X-men has always been where outcasts have been brought together. Could we have both a team book about the classic x-men mission and an anthology series about the lives of mutants around the world? I guess in a world without Xavier to bring them together it makes sense but I want both
This looks very interesting.