The Cybermen are the biggest reason why I hope we get a spinoff with a higher age rating set at some point where Humanity are spread across the galaxy. The overall pitch would be to show what various villains are capable of when the Doctor isn't around, with a full season dedicated to an arc that places the Cybermen in a prominent role (either in one of the Cyber Wars or in a situation that fits with the Cybermen but rare get done with them).
I mainly agree with your conclusions, if not all of your reasoning. I do think that Star Trek has made better use of the Cybermen (Borg) than Doctor Who - Even though Who invented them. Yes, there are too many stories in which they could have been swapped out for nearly any other alien monster - which is a waste. But I do love a well told BUS (base under seige) story... because our enjoyment of stories comes from how well they are told, not how original they are. But, yes, I do wish they would make more use of ideas like the lost of your humanity and stuff... or even just deal with the consquences of the stories they do tell properly (where is the Cyber-Brigadier now? Does he help out UNIT? Has he gone back to Doris?) Similarly... I get a little frustrated with what they do with the Ice Warriors too (when is someone going to work out that they only work if you write them as people not monsters?)
I personally always thought that the cybermen could work so well as an allegory for conversion therapy. It's a dark thing in human history to think about how many people were lobotomised and tortured because of what they wanted or thought. It could be the perfect backdrop for a cyberman story. Cause they are always at their best when they are at their creepiest.
The Cybermen are the biggest reason why I hope we get a spinoff with a higher age rating set at some point where Humanity are spread across the galaxy. The overall pitch would be to show what various villains are capable of when the Doctor isn't around, with a full season dedicated to an arc that places the Cybermen in a prominent role (either in one of the Cyber Wars or in a situation that fits with the Cybermen but rare get done with them).
Oh I love the Silver Turk!!
Great video BTW. Good luck with growing on TH-cam.
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I mainly agree with your conclusions, if not all of your reasoning. I do think that Star Trek has made better use of the Cybermen (Borg) than Doctor Who - Even though Who invented them. Yes, there are too many stories in which they could have been swapped out for nearly any other alien monster - which is a waste. But I do love a well told BUS (base under seige) story... because our enjoyment of stories comes from how well they are told, not how original they are. But, yes, I do wish they would make more use of ideas like the lost of your humanity and stuff... or even just deal with the consquences of the stories they do tell properly (where is the Cyber-Brigadier now? Does he help out UNIT? Has he gone back to Doris?) Similarly... I get a little frustrated with what they do with the Ice Warriors too (when is someone going to work out that they only work if you write them as people not monsters?)
Can I read your dissertation anywhere?
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I personally always thought that the cybermen could work so well as an allegory for conversion therapy. It's a dark thing in human history to think about how many people were lobotomised and tortured because of what they wanted or thought. It could be the perfect backdrop for a cyberman story. Cause they are always at their best when they are at their creepiest.