it really helped to emphasise how badass and strong rory was a companion. he's so underrated considering he was often the voice of reason and logic in the trio.
The transformation of the kinda dorky male nurse into a legendary and completely believable epic hero is one of the best pieces of story telling in or out of the series
@@johntabler349 I've always maintained that Rory is meant to be a human version of the Doctor. (which is why he's a nurse). It goes with Amy's arc of thinking she was in love with the Doctor, only to realize she already had someone who was unfazed by the TARDIS, willing to travel through time and space for her, willing to live thousands of years to keep her safe, and willing to face down the alien hordes, if that's what it took. Neither Rory nor the Doctor look like much, but woe be unto anyone who threatens their loved ones or makes them angry.
In 'Revolution of the Daleks' The Doctor herds a load of Daleks into a different TARDIS and makes the ship implode, killing them all. (And the TARDIS itself, seeing as it's sentient as well)
I'm still against that, The Tardis was an innocent being and one of the Doctor's Tardis only surviving sisters and The Doctor just murdered her without even thinking about it. Daleks or no Daleks, there should've been a better way, The Doctor should've found a better way. Especially since she had Jack, Graham and Ryan on the Dalek ship, she should've utilized her assets a bit better instead worrying about them constantly. I hope The Doctor's Tardis acts up in the future in retribution for this unjust murder.
@@tekkenh2684 There was no war. It was just a dalek scuffle in Bristol that could've been solved in a variety of ways. Plus is The Doctor doesn't kill, sure she disabled the Daleks but murdered a Tardis in the process.
Who else's first thought when reading this title was 'Only ten?' As for other times you've got: - The Dominators when he puts a ticking time bomb on their ship. - Day of the Daleks when he shoots an ogron with a disintegrator. - Trial of a Timelord he committed genocide against the vervoids. Not to mention the countless daleks and, if you do include them, cybermen on other occasions he has directly killed.
My first thought was that Ogron should be on the list, and I was surprised to find it wasn't. The Doctor simply walked out of the house, saw the Ogron, and casually shot it.
He deserved it he killed the entire ships crew and was working on killing the dinosaurs and was going to sell the Egyptian queen that's not right I would have done the same thing.
The Doctor didnt completely wipe out the Racnoss. The Master did. In the guise of Harold Saxon, HE fired the shot that killed the Racnoss Queen, destroying the last of the race.
Well said. I was thinking that the Empress teleported up to her ship when Rich said, "The Doctor flushed her down the hole to be with her children." I knew that was wrong.
When the Seventh Doctor caused Davros to destroy Skaro in Remembrance of the Daleks, not only would the Daleks have been destroyed, but also the peaceful Thals, who also lived on Skaro.
@@lynchet4532 Alternatively, the events of Remembrance could even predate the events of 'The Daleks' and 'Genesis of the Daleks'. Some on line sources put the very first Dalek story at 2064 - 101 years after the events of remembrance. It's that wibbly wobbly timey wimey thing.
You skipped over The Doctor's seventh incarnation. On two occasions, he caused a huge amount of death and destruction. In 'Remembrance Of The Daleks', he lets them use 'The Hand Of Omega', an ancient Gallifreyan 'Stellar Manipulator', in the full knowledge that he has ordered it to fly to Skaro, and convert the planet, and everything on it, into a singularity, and then return to Gallifrey. I love his parting words: "Goodbye, Davros! And it hasn't been pleasant!" Similarly, in 'Silver Nemesis', the statue made of the living metal, Validium, now fused with the totally insane Lady Peinforte, is launched into a Cyberman fleet of millions of ships. It destroys all of them, before heading for deep space.
@@thetommygunshow - They are, to a greater or lesser extent, cyborgs. Cybermen have human tissue under their armour, and a Dalek is a mutant creature, of high intelligence, in an armoured shell. Both races have also 'augmented' other sentient beings. As far as I'm concerned, both races are living, biological beings.
I really don't understand why people have such a problem with the Sixth Doctor murdering Shockeye at the end of The Two Doctors. I mean Androgums are pretty nasty creatures and I think the whole point was that because his second incarnation nearly turned into one, causing him to have cannibalistic tendencies, he would certainly pretty much think that Shockeye deserved it. He almost killed Peri, he nearly killed Jamie and he killed Oscar the restaurant owner for no good reason. They were all in a terrible situation, the Doctor had no choice but to end it somehow to save his previous self.
Surprised the third Doctor killing an Ogron with a blaster in Day of the Daleks isn't on here. Barry Letts said it was a mistake but they couldn't edit it out cos it would leave a continuity error. Plus you could do a whole list on the Sixth Doctor's violent era.
In Thin Ice, there is also the part where the Doctor and Bill are handcuffed or something, and there's a lone guard there, and the doctor tricks the guard into getting his sonic screwdriver back, and let's the guard fall into the ice to be killed by the whale under the Thames
In the Doctor's Wife the Ood "Nephew" was already dead and it's corpse was possessed by House, so not really fair to say that "The Doctor killed Nephew".
Solomon had a chance to redeem himself, but he wasn't having it. So the Doctor said analogous "As you wish. This is your doing". Then he left him to die. He blew up Skaro as well, twice...
Most people dislike her because she did this crazy thing called character development,, the only real complaint I ever hear about her is that she stayed too long, and after a while had a completely different personality
@@michaelwhitmire9015 excuse me? Clara's a Deus Ex Machina character and that's why we're supposed to hate her? Then who does everyone love Rose "i became the TARDIS" Tyler so much?
@@zornitsadimitrova1741 The Meta-Crisis Doctor is still considered a Regeneration. So it has to be put on the Doctor's palate, and I think he thought of it that way to, hence why he was so angry at Meta-Crisis for doing that. Another dead race on the Doctor's conscious.
@@TheHufflepuffSaint The funny thing is with the Meta-crisis doctor If you really think about it it’s origins it’s technically not him it’s his son because genetically it’s half Donna and half doctor. Cheekily made reference to with meta-crisis spouting out similar mannerisms to Donna.
Depends. He claims that Amy never existed as of the moment they leave. If we believe him, no one died because she never existed. But he lied previously in the episode and I think it is to hint he is lying again, or that he considers "never existed" the same as killing.
It makes a difference to me how the killings are treated in tone. Sometimes we're meant to be disturbed by what he's done (the Racnoss, the General), but too often (especially recently) the Doctor committing murder is portrayed as heroic and clever, which makes me angry.
Yes. I remember an old episode called The Sontaran Experiment which ends with The Doctor poisoning and melting a Sontaran. It was only doing what it was ordered to do. And how about The Beast Below? If Amy hadn't intervened, then The Doctor would have killed a star whale.
Was going to mention this one if no one else had, was also very literally laughing and bragging afterward about straight up blowing a guy to pieces with a bomb
You didn't mention the Doctor ordering Elton to break the Absorbaloff's staff, in Love and Monsters, though that is an episode everyone wants to forget.
No, Elton's love interest Ursula told him to break the staff... The Doctor just said the humans that the Absorbaloff absorbed had something to say about it.
My issues with The Doctor's no kill policy is that in some cases the entire universe would just be better off if certain beings just ceased to be, and, some fates are actually more cruel than a simple quick death.
A problem with all strict no-kill policy characters. How much blood is on Batman's hands for the people Joker kills after the 300th time he escapes from Arkham because Batman refuses to kill the unhinged lunatic that will not reform?
“The racnoss have been waiting for centuries”.... well the doctor went back in time and saw that the whole Earth was formed around the racnoss ship. So technically they have been waiting for over 4.5 billion years
the problem with solomon's death in "dinosaurs on a spaceship" is how one dimensional the doctor was whilst doing it. chibnall didn't quite grasp the emotional turmoil right - where was the doctor's real grief at the genocide of the silurians, like the kind we saw for the star whale? where was the emphasis on the doctor being so angry at solomon that he'd lead him to his murder? chibnall just doesn't have the ability to write good plotlines without making all the characters feel bland and one-note.
Terror of the Zygons; Tom Baker locked a handful of Zygons out of their control room, and caused their ship to self destruct - with those Zygons locked inside.
The doctor ran from the time war he was so ashamed of it that he changed his name and lived in isolation. He felt responsible for the war and was overwhelmed when he realised how little he could actually do about it.
I'm not sure about this because I probably saw the episode 35-40 years ago, but there was one where a woman had huge eyes drawn over her closed eyelids (something to do with snake people, maybe?) and a man who was utterly trapped begging the Doctor (Tom Baker) either out loud or with his expression, to kill him instead of leaving him to be killed by the monster(s). The Doctor told his companion to get out of there and, well, I don't know if we saw him kill the man or not, but we know he did. You can see how poor my memory of the episode is, but I have no doubt about the killing and why it was done, and I recall reading that it was very controversial because at that time the show was directed toward children.
Missy existence makes no sense,john simms master even asked your me and how does that come about but missy wouldn't answer that question.Now just consider the following if she is future regeneration why not tell yourself how? strange isn't it.
@@michaelwhitmire9015 time is a wipply bobbly timey wimey thing and if they did then they would have made a crack in time or possibly stopping it from happening But it would have been suicude
I imagine it's probably been mentioned, however to be fair to any of the morally grey choices of 9, 10 or 11, these versions of the Doctor are still coping with the believe that they were responsible for the destruction of both the Daleks and the Time Lords, and even Gallifrey itself. Those three regenerations all already think they're genocidal monsters, so they're working on the redemption arc from the position of the ends justifying the means.
What about that time Four snapped a guy's neck? Or Seven plays two sides of Daleks AND got Davros to nuke Skaro? Yet Six is the one who gets a bad rep? Really?
Number 3 shot an Ogron in Day Of The Daleks. In Attack Of The Cybermen Number 6 stood triumphantly over the Cyber Controller who was already struggling on the floor, and repeatedly pumped his chest with energy from a cyber-gun. In Terror Of The Vervoids he committed genocide against the Vervoids (assuming this wasn’t just a trick if the Matrix). In Deadly Assasin Number 4 tried to shoot an assassin to save the President in the Panopticon. The gun sights had been tampered with so he accidentally killed the President, which wasn’t his fault. But if he had succeeded he would have killed someone else. Regarding cybermen he also destroyed a entire Cyberfleet in Silver Nemesis, and chucked gold directly into the chest plate of a Cyberman in Revenge Of The Cybermen. You can easily lose count of the amount of times he has killed Daleks, not to mention that he destroyed Gallifrey and all its inhabitants at the end of the time war (at least he did before 10 and 11 changed history) And a lot of people tend to forget that the first Doctor fully intended to kill an injured stone-aged man by hitting him over the head with a rock, just because he was slowing down their getaway. The only reason he didn’t do it was because Ian stopped him. All this guff about the Doctor always being good and making a promise earlier in his life when he took the title ‘Doctor’ a retcon from the modern era. The Doctor was originally abrasive, arrogant, often unkind, manipulative, selfish and with a different sense of morality to most people. And he was fully capable of killing. The Doctor became the moral crusader that we know and love because of the influence of Ian and Barbara, and to a lesser extent some other earlier companions.
He straps a bomb to a guy in the Ribos operation. Kills a few cybermen in revenge of the cybermen, also he threatens a guy with death unless he fix's the teleporter. Breaks Mr sin in half talons. He'd kills a great vampire with a spaceship. Killed a few ice warriors in the monster of peladon. Melts a pair of cybermen in silver nemesis an destroys there fleet. And that before we get to the directed killing by others or audio an book.
What annoyed me was that regeneration is portrayed as a huge emotional thing for the Doctor. Then he shoots another Time Lord and the show treats it like nothing. Easy fix: Rassilon tries to shoot Clara or the Doctor, and the General takes the blast himself.
5th was pretty violent in Resurrection of the Daleks, Warriors of the Deep and Earthshock. Plus the OG Time Lord where the Doctor wipes out the Time Lords.
8:33 Well in the Doctor’s defense, his regeneration from 9-10 had a bit of a hiccup as said in an extra bonus scene most likely due to the amount of power the time vortex had on him. That said hiccup was the reason why the tenth doctor needed more rest
It had some great moments (and was generally very well-written), but I found the episode hard to like because of how it ended the “Hybrid”-storyline somewhat weakly. However, enjoy your own opinion 👍
@@patchworkfellow I mean atleast it didn't end with the timelord race revealed as being genetically engineered from a child from another dimension...the end tho
What about the time the War Doctor used the Moment to wipe out the Daleks and the Time Lords? No, you don’t get to tell me that never happened, because 10 and 11 changed it. Before their intervention, the Doctor straight out committed genocide, twice, to save the rest of the universe. A long time passed between the original event, and the changing of the event, and he was a serial genocide-ist during this period. Still, I believe the Doctor, in all, their incarnations, is a good person. Sometimes, killing has been necessary to save himself, a companion, a world, or a universe. I doubt he enjoys it, but it is something that has to be done...
11:20 oh boo hoo. Is it morally wrong to kill cybermen? Better question: is it more morally wrong to not stop the cybermen, so they can convert and kill the whole galaxy or universe. I’ll answer for you: yes.
Since the Meta-Crisis Doctor was considered a Regeneration, I think the genocide(-3) of Davros's Daleks The Meta-Crisis Doctor murdered should be on here. As well as the time The Doctor murdering Silence Warriors alongside River, shooting off green laser bolts from his OP Sonic Screwdriver, it could be argued that it could be River's gun shots but her lasers are blue.
Peter Capaldi was a very slow burn Doctor for me. In Season 8, I didn't see him as the Doctor at all so for that alone, he's one of the worst incarnations. I warmed up to him in Season 9 but because his performances in Season 8 had been so antithetical to any Doctor who isn't the Valeyard or the Dream Lord, it was still an uphill battle for him to win me over. However, even I can admit that Heaven Sent is a masterpiece and I think Hell Bent is criminally underrated. My only real issue with the latter episode is that Rassilon wasn't played by Timothy Dalton.
Solomon killed off all the silurians on that ship with nazi level efficiency. He tried to make deals with solomon despite this but was pushed way too far by solomon's unwillingness to change.
I have a theory with the spider suffocation that it was a very subtle influence due to her third incarnation dying fighting spiders so subtle she didn't realize it.
The Doctor kills the Dominators by smuggling their own bomb into their vessel. The Doctor kills Meglos and the Gaztaks by realigning the dodecahedron weapon onto them.
The Doctor didn't send the Empress down into the bowels of the earth. She teleported out and was subsequently destroyed by the army under the "Orders of Mr. Saxon" the first Name drop of Saxon in the show
I am not surprised 6 has a few entries (his suit did reflect his temper). Also I have never forgotten the Davison era, where he picks up a weapon willfully and uses it against cybermen. It has remained in my memory sense :D
Argus Filch: STUDENTS OUT OF BED Solomon: WHATEVER YOU WANT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU. WHATEVER OBJECT YOU DESIRE! There's no difference to me between the two and you can't tell me otherwise!
The doctor knew that Clara was about to die so he made sure that she was safe. Rose was completely save, true they did have a romantic love and they were both separated. But in the end he could rest easy knowing that his companion was in good hands...
You’re also forgetting the time where the doctor just wiped the floor when it comes to the daleks in journeys end and stolen earth where the doctor just annihilates an entire dalek fleet, considering that each individual dalek saucer housed over two million daleks each
He's killed numerous Cybermen up close, before. Methods included shooting them, stabbing with a sonic lance, gold poisoning, emotional overload (both via removing their inhibitor and the Cerebraton Mentor) and telefragging one with a door.
An interesting concept to potentially explore for the doctor would be how he thought that he committed this atrocity with destroying gallifrey. Which probably made these other atrocities that he committed a little bit easier for him to swallow. I think it would have been interesting to explore the doctor coming to grips with everything he's done, after realizing that he didn't actually kill his own people. I wonder if he would look back on some of the other times where he took things out more aggressively and think well. What if I just thought a little harder?
Other earlier Doctors occasionally killed. The 2nd Doctor pushed a Dalek off a cliff in "Evil of the Daleks" (In the days before Daleks could fly without Hoverbouts). A Cyberman with the Cerebratron Mentor in "Invasion", and melted a couple of Ice Warriors in "Seeds of Death" with a portable solar dish. All deliberate acts.
He didn't make then fall in the acid bath, the one stumbled and the other guard who was already in the acid bath pulled him in. Nothing to do with The Doctor and he says that line because the one guard intended to pull him in.
Rory's: "Do you want me to repeat the question?" is one of the single best scenes in the entire show.
it really helped to emphasise how badass and strong rory was a companion. he's so underrated considering he was often the voice of reason and logic in the trio.
Definitely a super high point
The transformation of the kinda dorky male nurse into a legendary and completely believable epic hero is one of the best pieces of story telling in or out of the series
@@johntabler349 I've always maintained that Rory is meant to be a human version of the Doctor. (which is why he's a nurse). It goes with Amy's arc of thinking she was in love with the Doctor, only to realize she already had someone who was unfazed by the TARDIS, willing to travel through time and space for her, willing to live thousands of years to keep her safe, and willing to face down the alien hordes, if that's what it took. Neither Rory nor the Doctor look like much, but woe be unto anyone who threatens their loved ones or makes them angry.
@@thestoryfactory8429 I like the way you're thinking
In 'Revolution of the Daleks' The Doctor herds a load of Daleks into a different TARDIS and makes the ship implode, killing them all. (And the TARDIS itself, seeing as it's sentient as well)
is every tardis sentient? i just thought it was the doctor’s tardis
@@william...1 nope every tardis,
I'm still against that, The Tardis was an innocent being and one of the Doctor's Tardis only surviving sisters and The Doctor just murdered her without even thinking about it. Daleks or no Daleks, there should've been a better way, The Doctor should've found a better way. Especially since she had Jack, Graham and Ryan on the Dalek ship, she should've utilized her assets a bit better instead worrying about them constantly. I hope The Doctor's Tardis acts up in the future in retribution for this unjust murder.
@@TheHufflepuffSaint in war, no murder is unjustified
@@tekkenh2684 There was no war. It was just a dalek scuffle in Bristol that could've been solved in a variety of ways. Plus is The Doctor doesn't kill, sure she disabled the Daleks but murdered a Tardis in the process.
Who else's first thought when reading this title was 'Only ten?'
As for other times you've got:
- The Dominators when he puts a ticking time bomb on their ship.
- Day of the Daleks when he shoots an ogron with a disintegrator.
- Trial of a Timelord he committed genocide against the vervoids.
Not to mention the countless daleks and, if you do include them, cybermen on other occasions he has directly killed.
I first thought of the Dominators.
And he killed Meglos and the Gaztaks be realigning the dodecahedron weapon.
The time war
My first thought was that Ogron should be on the list, and I was surprised to find it wasn't. The Doctor simply walked out of the house, saw the Ogron, and casually shot it.
@@meme-derivedterpenes3097 That genocide I think is outside the purview since it is not on screen as it were.
Solomon was cold. It’s like Eleven wasn’t even bothered about leaving him to die.
you could tell it was a chibbers production
@@EpicStuffMan1000 / Watch torchwood. It changed my view of Chibnall. I used to hate his writing. He just isn’t the best family show writer.
Tbh Solomon did genocide a Silurian ship crew just for profit
not surprised if the doctor is so pissed that he’s indifferent to leaving Solomon
@@RyansGuitars especially seeing how broadchurch is about murders and such too
He deserved it he killed the entire ships crew and was working on killing the dinosaurs and was going to sell the Egyptian queen that's not right I would have done the same thing.
The Doctor didnt completely wipe out the Racnoss. The Master did. In the guise of Harold Saxon, HE fired the shot that killed the Racnoss Queen, destroying the last of the race.
Well said. I was thinking that the Empress teleported up to her ship when Rich said, "The Doctor flushed her down the hole to be with her children." I knew that was wrong.
Didn’t the Cybermen fight the Racnoss as well? How does that work?
@@millievariants wibbly wobbly timey whimey
He still killed the children. That scene when I watched it around three years ago maybe made me rethink how I saw the Doctor.
"When I close my eyes I hear more screams then anyone could ever count!" The Twelfth doctor to the leaders of the two warring faction.
When the Seventh Doctor caused Davros to destroy Skaro in Remembrance of the Daleks, not only would the Daleks have been destroyed, but also the peaceful Thals, who also lived on Skaro.
I suppose the question is were here any Thals left alive at that point
@@lynchet4532 Alternatively, the events of Remembrance could even predate the events of 'The Daleks' and 'Genesis of the Daleks'. Some on line sources put the very first Dalek story at 2064 - 101 years after the events of remembrance. It's that wibbly wobbly timey wimey thing.
I think the Thals should return in the modern series
You skipped over The Doctor's seventh incarnation. On two occasions, he caused a huge amount of death and destruction. In 'Remembrance Of The Daleks', he lets them use 'The Hand Of Omega', an ancient Gallifreyan 'Stellar Manipulator', in the full knowledge that he has ordered it to fly to Skaro, and convert the planet, and everything on it, into a singularity, and then return to Gallifrey. I love his parting words:
"Goodbye, Davros! And it hasn't been pleasant!"
Similarly, in 'Silver Nemesis', the statue made of the living metal, Validium, now fused with the totally insane Lady Peinforte, is launched into a Cyberman fleet of millions of ships. It destroys all of them, before heading for deep space.
I was going to mention 'Silver Nemesis" if nobody else had.
Very true
I think the Daleks and Cyberman are considered non-organic creatures.
@@thetommygunshow - They are, to a greater or lesser extent, cyborgs. Cybermen have human tissue under their armour, and a Dalek is a mutant creature, of high intelligence, in an armoured shell.
Both races have also 'augmented' other sentient beings. As far as I'm concerned, both races are living, biological beings.
I really don't understand why people have such a problem with the Sixth Doctor murdering Shockeye at the end of The Two Doctors. I mean Androgums are pretty nasty creatures and I think the whole point was that because his second incarnation nearly turned into one, causing him to have cannibalistic tendencies, he would certainly pretty much think that Shockeye deserved it. He almost killed Peri, he nearly killed Jamie and he killed Oscar the restaurant owner for no good reason. They were all in a terrible situation, the Doctor had no choice but to end it somehow to save his previous self.
Surprised the third Doctor killing an Ogron with a blaster in Day of the Daleks isn't on here. Barry Letts said it was a mistake but they couldn't edit it out cos it would leave a continuity error. Plus you could do a whole list on the Sixth Doctor's violent era.
I came here to mention this. Beat me to it! 😁
@@stuartirwin3779 ditto
I seem to remember he happily shot at them in Frontier in Space, as well.
Here’s 2. Tom Baker killing a giant rat and Peter Davidson killing a Cyber Leader(?) with his/her own cyber blaster.
In Thin Ice, there is also the part where the Doctor and Bill are handcuffed or something, and there's a lone guard there, and the doctor tricks the guard into getting his sonic screwdriver back, and let's the guard fall into the ice to be killed by the whale under the Thames
You would actually be hard pressed to find a character with a higher body count than the Doctor.
The Doctor has killed an unspeakable number
@@SamuelBlack84 Yeah, he has. I noticed this only three years ago and was like...this is not the Doctor Who my mother let me watch.
In the Doctor's Wife the Ood "Nephew" was already dead and it's corpse was possessed by House, so not really fair to say that "The Doctor killed Nephew".
Solomon had a chance to redeem himself, but he wasn't having it. So the Doctor said analogous "As you wish. This is your doing". Then he left him to die.
He blew up Skaro as well, twice...
Rory after that experience: “Hmm, maybe I should grow a beard and get a timeship of my own. Maybe a nice duster too.”
Shockeye was definately the most brutal. After 6 suffocated him, he gloated. "just desserts"
What about Remembrance of the Daleks? If I remember correctly, he manipulated the Daleks into blowing up Skaro.
Technically, EVERYONE is dead from my perspective. Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey.
I don't get why I'm suppose to hate Clara. I mean there's better companions but I don't have any reason to dislike her.
Most people dislike her because she did this crazy thing called character development,, the only real complaint I ever hear about her is that she stayed too long, and after a while had a completely different personality
Clara is deus ex-machina character that did have to much time.
@@michaelwhitmire9015 all the companions post-donna are gonna have too much time
@@zeallust8542 people realize character development is suppoosed to be a good thing, right?
@@michaelwhitmire9015 excuse me? Clara's a Deus Ex Machina character and that's why we're supposed to hate her? Then who does everyone love Rose "i became the TARDIS" Tyler so much?
I feel like I'm the only one that actually enjoyed Clara..
Yeah I don't get why people hate her she's my favorite companion
It's because you're different.
I liked Clara, and would love to have a copy of her body as my own now.:)
Unwarranted hate seems to be a characteristic of some Who “fans”
I love her as a companion too!
I think that if the Doctor is blonde, and has an item of clothing with multiple colors, that will make the Time Lord a dangerous sociopath.
I cant tell if this is a dig at Jodie Whittaker or Colin Baker?
Bother I believe!
@@dreamersvlog4072 Peter Davison is also blonde. ;D*
Got a problem with us blondes? 😂
@@dreamersvlog4072 Baker, technically
What about the 'Hand' Tenth Doctor technically wiping out the whole of the Dalek race in Journey's End?
It probably doesn't count cause it wasn't technically the Doctor who did it.
That guy was uh... handy.
@@zornitsadimitrova1741 The Meta-Crisis Doctor is still considered a Regeneration. So it has to be put on the Doctor's palate, and I think he thought of it that way to, hence why he was so angry at Meta-Crisis for doing that. Another dead race on the Doctor's conscious.
@@TheHufflepuffSaint The funny thing is with the Meta-crisis doctor If you really think about it it’s origins it’s technically not him it’s his son because genetically it’s half Donna and half doctor. Cheekily made reference to with meta-crisis spouting out similar mannerisms to Donna.
Or when he killed the socorax leader using a satsuma.
"We're on Gallifrey... death is Time Lord for Man Flu."
LMAO!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Didn’t he practically kill the other Amy in the girl who waited?
Depends. He claims that Amy never existed as of the moment they leave. If we believe him, no one died because she never existed. But he lied previously in the episode and I think it is to hint he is lying again, or that he considers "never existed" the same as killing.
It makes a difference to me how the killings are treated in tone. Sometimes we're meant to be disturbed by what he's done (the Racnoss, the General), but too often (especially recently) the Doctor committing murder is portrayed as heroic and clever, which makes me angry.
I understand how you feel
Yes. I remember an old episode called The Sontaran Experiment which ends with The Doctor poisoning and melting a Sontaran. It was only doing what it was ordered to do. And how about The Beast Below? If Amy hadn't intervened, then The Doctor would have killed a star whale.
@@alexandergodwin2175 yep.
The time the Fourth Doctor used sleight-of-hand to blow up the main baddie in "The Ribos Operation"
Was going to mention this one if no one else had, was also very literally laughing and bragging afterward about straight up blowing a guy to pieces with a bomb
What about the first time when he ended the Time War, by killing all of his kind?
You didn't mention the Doctor ordering Elton to break the Absorbaloff's staff, in Love and Monsters, though that is an episode everyone wants to forget.
No, Elton's love interest Ursula told him to break the staff... The Doctor just said the humans that the Absorbaloff absorbed had something to say about it.
The seventh doctor had manipulated the Dalek into killing itself.
My issues with The Doctor's no kill policy is that in some cases the entire universe would just be better off if certain beings just ceased to be, and, some fates are actually more cruel than a simple quick death.
A problem with all strict no-kill policy characters. How much blood is on Batman's hands for the people Joker kills after the 300th time he escapes from Arkham because Batman refuses to kill the unhinged lunatic that will not reform?
"Where is my WIFE?" Ahh when the sub-companions had characters. Chibnall can't do that with even the primary companions.
“The racnoss have been waiting for centuries”.... well the doctor went back in time and saw that the whole Earth was formed around the racnoss ship. So technically they have been waiting for over 4.5 billion years
The Dominators, 2nd Doctor planting the "seed device" on the alien spaceship as they attempt lift off.
the problem with solomon's death in "dinosaurs on a spaceship" is how one dimensional the doctor was whilst doing it. chibnall didn't quite grasp the emotional turmoil right - where was the doctor's real grief at the genocide of the silurians, like the kind we saw for the star whale? where was the emphasis on the doctor being so angry at solomon that he'd lead him to his murder? chibnall just doesn't have the ability to write good plotlines without making all the characters feel bland and one-note.
A notable omission is the 5th Doctor destroying the Cyber Leader in Earthshock.
Terror of the Zygons; Tom Baker locked a handful of Zygons out of their control room, and caused their ship to self destruct - with those Zygons locked inside.
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“You have arrived at... Nephew”
[close up on Nephew’s business card]
The doctor ran from the time war he was so ashamed of it that he changed his name and lived in isolation. He felt responsible for the war and was overwhelmed when he realised how little he could actually do about it.
Clara is great.
She's not as bad as people remember
She's terrible.
She is, and I really can't stand how this channel alienates people who like her and try to make then feel wrong for doing so 🙄
@@MrPaulmorris7777 nope. wrong.
@@va-cables Funnily. I'm correct.
I'm not sure about this because I probably saw the episode 35-40 years ago, but there was one where a woman had huge eyes drawn over her closed eyelids (something to do with snake people, maybe?) and a man who was utterly trapped begging the Doctor (Tom Baker) either out loud or with his expression, to kill him instead of leaving him to be killed by the monster(s). The Doctor told his companion to get out of there and, well, I don't know if we saw him kill the man or not, but we know he did. You can see how poor my memory of the episode is, but I have no doubt about the killing and why it was done, and I recall reading that it was very controversial because at that time the show was directed toward children.
Ya know when missy made the master regenerate
Then the master killed missy
Is that murder or suiside?
The answer to me is yes
It's both I guess
Missy existence makes no sense,john simms master even asked your me and how does that come about but missy wouldn't answer that question.Now just consider the following if she is future regeneration why not tell yourself how? strange isn't it.
@@michaelwhitmire9015 time is a wipply bobbly timey wimey thing and if they did then they would have made a crack in time or possibly stopping it from happening
But it would have been suicude
I imagine it's probably been mentioned, however to be fair to any of the morally grey choices of 9, 10 or 11, these versions of the Doctor are still coping with the believe that they were responsible for the destruction of both the Daleks and the Time Lords, and even Gallifrey itself. Those three regenerations all already think they're genocidal monsters, so they're working on the redemption arc from the position of the ends justifying the means.
Tricking that one time lord into suicide in prisoner of the judoon (I think this counts?)
they repeatedly said “don’t shoot” and Gat still shot so...
What about that time Four snapped a guy's neck? Or Seven plays two sides of Daleks AND got Davros to nuke Skaro?
Yet Six is the one who gets a bad rep? Really?
The Solomon thing has never sat right with me tbh
Number 3 shot an Ogron in Day Of The Daleks. In Attack Of The Cybermen Number 6 stood triumphantly over the Cyber Controller who was already struggling on the floor, and repeatedly pumped his chest with energy from a cyber-gun. In Terror Of The Vervoids he committed genocide against the Vervoids (assuming this wasn’t just a trick if the Matrix).
In Deadly Assasin Number 4 tried to shoot an assassin to save the President in the Panopticon. The gun sights had been tampered with so he accidentally killed the President, which wasn’t his fault. But if he had succeeded he would have killed someone else.
Regarding cybermen he also destroyed a entire Cyberfleet in Silver Nemesis, and chucked gold directly into the chest plate of a Cyberman in Revenge Of The Cybermen.
You can easily lose count of the amount of times he has killed Daleks, not to mention that he destroyed Gallifrey and all its inhabitants at the end of the time war (at least he did before 10 and 11 changed history)
And a lot of people tend to forget that the first Doctor fully intended to kill an injured stone-aged man by hitting him over the head with a rock, just because he was slowing down their getaway. The only reason he didn’t do it was because Ian stopped him. All this guff about the Doctor always being good and making a promise earlier in his life when he took the title ‘Doctor’ a retcon from the modern era. The Doctor was originally abrasive, arrogant, often unkind, manipulative, selfish and with a different sense of morality to most people. And he was fully capable of killing. The Doctor became the moral crusader that we know and love because of the influence of Ian and Barbara, and to a lesser extent some other earlier companions.
He straps a bomb to a guy in the Ribos operation.
Kills a few cybermen in revenge of the cybermen, also he threatens a guy with death unless he fix's the teleporter.
Breaks Mr sin in half talons.
He'd kills a great vampire with a spaceship.
Killed a few ice warriors in the monster of peladon.
Melts a pair of cybermen in silver nemesis an destroys there fleet.
And that before we get to the directed killing by others or audio an book.
What annoyed me was that regeneration is portrayed as a huge emotional thing for the Doctor. Then he shoots another Time Lord and the show treats it like nothing.
Easy fix: Rassilon tries to shoot Clara or the Doctor, and the General takes the blast himself.
5th was pretty violent in Resurrection of the Daleks, Warriors of the Deep and Earthshock. Plus the OG Time Lord where the Doctor wipes out the Time Lords.
In Warriors he stated that he didn't want to kill anyone and only would as a last resort so I wouldn't say he was particularly violent in that one
You Rich are one of my favorites if not my all time favorite. Great list and agree with all of them, especially number one
8:33 Well in the Doctor’s defense, his regeneration from 9-10 had a bit of a hiccup as said in an extra bonus scene most likely due to the amount of power the time vortex had on him. That said hiccup was the reason why the tenth doctor needed more rest
It's also implied that regeneration is pretty dodgy at best. 12 needed a lot of time to recover after receiving a new set of regenerations
@@nubreed13 I honestly miss it where the new doctors were coughing out regeneration particals since as you said
11) The 13th Doctor killed the franchise.
Not her fault she has crappy writers writing the stories.
Same could have been said about 6 or 7.
The franchise did not die then, it will not die now.
@@davidclarey4461 Agreed.
That should be on the list
Chibnall is davros
#9 walked Mickey into blowing up the Raxafallapatorians.
Hellbent was pretty sick tbh
agreeded
Absolutely
It had some great moments (and was generally very well-written), but I found the episode hard to like because of how it ended the “Hybrid”-storyline somewhat weakly. However, enjoy your own opinion 👍
@@patchworkfellow I mean atleast it didn't end with the timelord race revealed as being genetically engineered from a child from another dimension...the end tho
What about the time the War Doctor used the Moment to wipe out the Daleks and the Time Lords?
No, you don’t get to tell me that never happened, because 10 and 11 changed it. Before their intervention, the Doctor straight out committed genocide, twice, to save the rest of the universe. A long time passed between the original event, and the changing of the event, and he was a serial genocide-ist during this period.
Still, I believe the Doctor, in all, their incarnations, is a good person. Sometimes, killing has been necessary to save himself, a companion, a world, or a universe. I doubt he enjoys it, but it is something that has to be done...
11:20 oh boo hoo. Is it morally wrong to kill cybermen?
Better question: is it more morally wrong to not stop the cybermen, so they can convert and kill the whole galaxy or universe. I’ll answer for you: yes.
admit it
just for the cool factor, The explosion of a cyberlegion was worth it.
Rory's just that badass
Since the Meta-Crisis Doctor was considered a Regeneration, I think the genocide(-3) of Davros's Daleks The Meta-Crisis Doctor murdered should be on here. As well as the time The Doctor murdering Silence Warriors alongside River, shooting off green laser bolts from his OP Sonic Screwdriver, it could be argued that it could be River's gun shots but her lasers are blue.
Yay Rick is back
Peter Capaldi was a very slow burn Doctor for me. In Season 8, I didn't see him as the Doctor at all so for that alone, he's one of the worst incarnations. I warmed up to him in Season 9 but because his performances in Season 8 had been so antithetical to any Doctor who isn't the Valeyard or the Dream Lord, it was still an uphill battle for him to win me over. However, even I can admit that Heaven Sent is a masterpiece and I think Hell Bent is criminally underrated. My only real issue with the latter episode is that Rassilon wasn't played by Timothy Dalton.
Solomon killed off all the silurians on that ship with nazi level efficiency. He tried to make deals with solomon despite this but was pushed way too far by solomon's unwillingness to change.
You should do Top 10 Most Dragged on Doctor Who episodes like The End of Time Part 1 or Heaven Sent or Curse of the Black Spot
Yesss good to see you Rich
He also committed genocide twice to the 2 most powerful races in the universe.
@dr103 well it happened at one point in time
There were times when The Doctor had to do it for the greater good.
Good video
I have a theory with the spider suffocation that it was a very subtle influence due to her third incarnation dying fighting spiders so subtle she didn't realize it.
The Doctor kills the Dominators by smuggling their own bomb into their vessel.
The Doctor kills Meglos and the Gaztaks by realigning the dodecahedron weapon onto them.
The Doctor didn't send the Empress down into the bowels of the earth. She teleported out and was subsequently destroyed by the army under the "Orders of Mr. Saxon" the first Name drop of Saxon in the show
I am not surprised 6 has a few entries (his suit did reflect his temper). Also I have never forgotten the Davison era, where he picks up a weapon willfully and uses it against cybermen. It has remained in my memory sense :D
I always saw Rory's "do you want me to repeat the question" as a bit of unintentional foreshadowing to the true identity of Melody, for some reason-
HE'S BACK LET'S GO
In Remembrance of the Daleks, the Doctor tricks Davros into firing the Hand of Omega into Skaro's sun, blowing up Skaro and destroying all the Daleks!
But tricking someone to do anything is not the same as actually doing it yourself!
@@lynchet4532 true, but he tricked Davros knowing what the outcome would be.
@@OnTheSofaUK Its so long since I watched it I wont comment
13's moral compass is like trying to navigate the North pole with a compass
Oh, I get it.
Remember when doctor who did Christmas specials? Those were the days
Third Doctor in Day ok the Daleks kills an Ogron.
Argus Filch: STUDENTS OUT OF BED
Solomon: WHATEVER YOU WANT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU. WHATEVER OBJECT YOU DESIRE!
There's no difference to me between the two and you can't tell me otherwise!
I like those circle thing in the background.
I have no idea what they're for.
I got a bit angry when the Doctor risk so much to save Clara and put no effort to stay with Rose.
The doctor knew that Clara was about to die so he made sure that she was safe. Rose was completely save, true they did have a romantic love and they were both separated. But in the end he could rest easy knowing that his companion was in good hands...
PLEASE, I need to know why you don't like Clara! Or have you explained already?
Clara is my favorite companion.
You’re also forgetting the time where the doctor just wiped the floor when it comes to the daleks in journeys end and stolen earth where the doctor just annihilates an entire dalek fleet, considering that each individual dalek saucer housed over two million daleks each
I guess it wasn’t shown, but it’s very strongly implied that 12 killed the half face man in his first episode.
He's killed numerous Cybermen up close, before. Methods included shooting them, stabbing with a sonic lance, gold poisoning, emotional overload (both via removing their inhibitor and the Cerebraton Mentor) and telefragging one with a door.
An interesting concept to potentially explore for the doctor would be how he thought that he committed this atrocity with destroying gallifrey. Which probably made these other atrocities that he committed a little bit easier for him to swallow. I think it would have been interesting to explore the doctor coming to grips with everything he's done, after realizing that he didn't actually kill his own people. I wonder if he would look back on some of the other times where he took things out more aggressively and think well. What if I just thought a little harder?
Other earlier Doctors occasionally killed. The 2nd Doctor pushed a Dalek off a cliff in "Evil of the Daleks" (In the days before Daleks could fly without Hoverbouts). A Cyberman with the Cerebratron Mentor in "Invasion", and melted a couple of Ice Warriors in "Seeds of Death" with a portable solar dish. All deliberate acts.
How about this one from Doctor #3: taking control of the device used to make Aggedor apparitions and using the heat ray to take out some Ice Warriors.
Is it me or do some people called Richard call themselves Rich just to sound cooler?
It's a lot cooler than Dick. At least, it is these days...
Or just because it's less syllables (the normal reason for such a choice)?
Didnt he ask the general if he had regenerations left? So knew he’d be back
I remember one episode from the old Doctor Who where are the doctor had a pistol and was shooting and an armored Dalic that was running loose
I'd saythe 9th doctor episode Daleks is a pretty good one where he says to "Destroy" its self.
im sorry but dinosaurs on a space ship is one of my most fav episodes i love it
So, how many Daleks has the Doctor killed?
Previous video about fan theories? Is that old or has this been released out of sequence?
You should've put season six episode 11. Where the doctor accidentally used faith to save people but they ended up being killed by the Minotaur.
what was the Dalek type with a huge gun and a more flat head we saw in A Witches Familiar and a couple of other episodes?
Special Weapons Dalek 😀
Cloying Clara was what my other half said about her - outstayed her welcome - I personally liked her though .
When he used the hand of omega to blow up Scaro’s sun and vaporise that solar system
He didn't make then fall in the acid bath, the one stumbled and the other guard who was already in the acid bath pulled him in. Nothing to do with The Doctor and he says that line because the one guard intended to pull him in.