Panasonic Lumix G9 Mark ii - It's Finally Here! My hands-on review of an amazing new camera.
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- The wait is over - Panasonic have finally released their successor to the Lumix G9. The Panasonic Lumix G9 Mark ii boasts a new 25 megapixel sensor, and the latest evolution in hybrid phase detect autofocus. Throw in some serious upgrades and amazing new features and it adds up to a new powerhouse in the world of micro four-thirds photography. Here's my first look and be sure to SUBSCRIBE because there's more on the way.
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Thank you , Andrew. I have the G9 and the S5. By the time I can afford their successors, there will be a Mk III for each. But still, this is GREAT news for the M43 community! The 25mp sensor, with more pixels PLUS the boost in dynamic range, together with the phase-detect AF, put this camera at the very top of any list. M43 is alive and well.
Very different style of camera review that seemed light and pleasant but not empty and harsh. Well done.
Top review, i pre-ordered mine yesterday, cannot wait for shipment.
Great review - so clear. I'm a newbie battling with my now old GX8. Thias is the camera I have been waiting for!
Also looking forward to the new lenses, it shows a commitment to the platform. I'd like to see some comparisons with the OM-1. The G9II's video specs really puts it ahead as a hybrid camera. I might be selling my OM-1 and buying the G9II. Great review, I'm glad they sent you one!
Your presentation and ability to highlight the important parts of the differences from the G9l is awesome. Very well done! I have the G9 and the GX9, and I love both cameras. I would be interested in and upgrade primarily based on the improved autofocus. It’ll be interesting to see if they eventually come out with a GX9II. I really love the size of my GX9, and probably use is more than the G9. Of course, I often have both with me with 2 different lenses. Since I will be traveling to Australia and New Zealand next February, I will have to make my decision by then. Very much looking to this bucket list trip. Again, your style in your videos is outstanding! Thanks, -Marty
This is good news for an already great camera. I really like the deep grip on the G9 and I'm a bit concerned about the new grip, however, I hope the rest of the changes give this camera the attention I believe it deserves. Much thanks for your review.
I have mine on pre order, now I cant wait.
Thank you for the precision on the shutter button sensitivity. A welcome clarification for G9 owners.
I appreciate your hands on review. Just what I was looking for. Most reviews simply list the specifications of this camera. I can read those. I want to know what they mean and how to use them. You covered the major points here to give me a good start in understanding the capabilities of my G9 ll when it arrives.
Awesome video! I'm so glad the wait is over! Like everyone else, I have been looking forward to this for a long time! But, Panasonic has been very disappointing by holding out so long on things as simple as the AF upgrade! But they sure have made up for it with all the other tech built into their MFT and FF systems now! It's like drinking your favorite whiskey from a firehose! It makes you dizzy with so much goodness at one time! I love it! Thanks, Andrew for such a great video! As usual, you nailed it, and now I have to get one when they come out in November just about Black Friday timeframe!
Very helpful! I'm going to save up and but one in a year. I have the g9 and am often frustrated with it's complexity. I hope the new menus will resolve some of that. Looking forward to seeing animal, macro & nature from you soon with the new g9 m2.
ooops. Just bought you some coffees on one of your old videos about pre-burst.... Meant to thank you for your time and effort on this one 😆
Certainly seems to have quite a few nice upgrades over the G9. I really like the incorporation of the new AF system. That alone would be worth the upgrade in my opinion. Adding a new sensor and better image stabilization on top is just icing on the cake :).
I really miss my old G9 was such an amazing camera for it's day. I ended up moving to Sony because of their low light and AF system. Since then Lumix has made some new amazing camera's. Thank you for sharing Andrew.
M43 folks have a big push w/ Lumix G9M2 .. Thank you for your presentation. !
Thanks for the nice review Andrew. I'm a bit disappointed with the physical changes. I think a lock button on the shoulder dial is essential not matter what the dial is for. I don't like that they have removed the LED screen and I really like the G9's rocker switch for the power button and the LED light. Anyway, good to see they released an update with the phase detect AF. That is the most useful I think. Other improvements are minor. I'd be interested to see in-depth tests of low-light performance compared to the original G9. This is important even if you shoot nature because high shutter speed for things like birds-in-flight need good low-light performance. I think I'll just wait for one GH7 with phase detect AF to come out.
Muchas gracias por la labor que realizas para informarnos de la nueva G9 Mark II, estoy muy interesado en ella ya que actualmente tengo la G9 y ya echaba en falta las novedades que comentas. Seguiré tus consejos para decidirme en adquirir la nueva G9 Mark II, saludos.
Many thanks Andrew for a very informative and helpful overview of the newly launched G9 mk ii. It looks a great camera - and as much as I love my current G9 (and my older, but smaller and lighter GX8), the G9 mk ii looks a very attractive proposition. It's great to see Panasonic Lumix, along with OMD, continuing to develop the (very underrated) MFT format.
I love my OM-1, but I was a Panasonic user for years. It's really something to see this come out now. If I had infinite money, I'd try one of these out when they're available. M43 is a far better system than people realize.
But sad they did not keep the original ergonomics and the LCD screen on the top.
Andrew Kudos for actually putting together a video where by someone actually owns and uses the G9! I am a pro sports photographer and shoot for 5 football teams (North American football)...I have had the G9s in blinding rain with zero issues along with the 200mm f2.8 and cant wait to test out the new auto focus system...using BBF my hit ratio is pretty high right now with the G9. Will be interesting to see how the Mk II performs. One other thing that everyone seems to miss...they moved the eye sensor to the top so now it wont interfere when you are moving your hand/finger across the view finder. AND REALLY sucks I cant use my 12 G9 batteries...lol
Nicely done…and loved the fact that the original g9 worked so well for the video! Rarely have any issues in decent light. On the ii just wished they had managed to reduce the size a little, but suspect that would have increased costs.
IBIS is shockingly stunning.
I always value your opinion. Most reviews about the G9 series, talk about video, something I never have used funnily enough. I do sports photography and have learnt a lot from your bif videos. I am very excited about this camera, I have been waiting for it for a while. I just love m4/3s they work for my little hands. Are great travel cameras as well.
Thank you for your detailed review - well done. I use the G9 now & would like the same function button configuration layout that I've set up on it to be the same for my future G9 2. To begin - I like all functions to be within reach of my ' right ' hands thumb & fingers. To start, this means my G9's play back I've moved to the fn 1 location - I use this quite often & like this placement. Do you know if the G9 2's original playback button location - on the left side of the eye piece - can it be reassigned to a different function or is it dedicated ? Also, did you find that the G9 2's Joy Stick to be too sensitive / easily moved ? I've encountered this description on other reviews. Lastly, The G9 has an artist paint palate between iA & C3 on the Mode dial, which has 22 different filters that can be selected from - jpeg only. Is this not available on the G9 2 ? I often use these for their creative / fun factor ! Thanks again. Ray
The launch of the G9II is a significant boost for the m43 community. Recently, I've made a full transition back from Sony FF to m43. Virtually everything you can do with Fullframe can also be achieved with m43, but with less weight (which becomes increasingly important as you get older) and less intimidating to the surroundings. The video quality of the GH6 is impressive and fantastic to work with. However, compact and yet excellent cameras like the GX9 are pleasant companions for a day out. Naturally, the G9II (with its much-improved AF) is on my wishlist, along with the highly underrated OM5 from OM systems (420 grams). The latter camera is a hybrid marvel when it comes to both photo and video (4K and 120 FPS HD) in a small and lightweight body. Try capturing a handheld video with panning using a Sony (e.g., the zv1 or the a7c); it's quite challenging. The OM5 can do it, and, of course, the G9II can as well. Hopefully, Panasonic will continue to innovate and soon release a GX9 mkII and/or a G90 mkII.
Exciting news! Looking forward to a ”field test”!
What about stacking possibilities besides composite? And flash possible with electronic shutter?
Missing the Fn1 button on the back and the top plate display...🤔...Sensor and Autofocus are exciting!! The G9 Image Stabilization is already amazing - allowing me to shoot 2 stops faster than my Nikon, which makes up for the M43 ISO penalty. Already fantasizing about 8stops!! How is the rolling shutter??
I have a G9 and I love it despite it many frustrations but doubt I'd upgrade. Have Panasonic added Bluetooth audio yet? Seems like a no-brainer, since every phone can do this. Hopefully they improved the totally insane USB power options on the G9.
I haven't heard any details if the camera has starry sky autofocus and live nd. Also is it possible to program the buttons to custom modes
Does it have flash sync port? And if not, does burst mode work with a flash for handheld macro photography?
Wow, amazing stuff! Pity some features have changed. A lot to take in here.
The G9 I bought 2 and a half years back has been a godsend to me filming small birds and getting birds in flight. The 'pre-burst' feature is an essential for getting the action when a bird (like the kingfisher) takes off or dives. I see this mark II vastly increases this which give better opportunities. 1.5 seconds is incredible. This is the most interesting feature for me.
I've had a 100-400mm lens but just wish I could get closer to the action.
Do you know if there's another higher-powered lens that can be purchased for the G9?
Odd you mention the shutter butter because I found mine rather harsh to focus (it showed white rather than green in the viewfinder) earlier this week - shooting on burst 2 mode, 3200 / 4000 shutter speed, on full lock (400mm).
Does Focus Bracketing with flash work with G9II? It doesn't work with the G9 which is a deal breaker for me as a macro photographer. Thanks in advance.
They also appear to have removed the lock button on the top wheels. Looks a great camera but not sure I can afford it🤔
Thank you, very informative video. Can you still use a "Back button" focus shooting method, like what was available on original G9?
Yes you can. I plan to put out a video showing some of the customisation options and that's one of them.
It's good news for MFT. I handled one over the weekend and the sales chap was enthusiastic to a fault. I could see his point. The 25MP sensor, an increase of 25%, was expected, but still welcome. The video improvements were what I would have asked for had they asked me, and there's the significant increase in resolution of the screen, although it didn't seem to be nearly 2x clearer. However, the (long overdue?) improvement in focusing is the biggest change. I love it, and would love one. However, you can buy a brand new G9 (Mk I?) for under £900 in the UK, and can source offers with that, while the body-only Mk II is £1700. Much as I want a G II, no way would I buy it now. Nice camera though.
Very detailed presentation, the biggest benefit of M43 is the compact design of the cameras and especially the lenses. For people who own the GH6 or the G9, this is a great upgrade. But to switch from another system to the G9 II the benefit I don't see.
Pretty easy try going into the Austrian Mountains with a 12-60(24-120FF) a 100-400(200-800) 2 xtra lenses and 2 cameras
What would you Rather take M43 or FF and a Helicopter
Is the screen also tilt-able as well as articulating?
Thank you for the great review! A question: Can I combine BBF with the Pre-burst mode? I yes, how can I set it?
Yes you can. You just have to remember that pressing the back button will focus, but you ALSO have to half-press the shutter button because that's what activates the pre-burst. This was true on the G9 and also true on the Mk ii.
Great review. Question - what is the start-up time compared to the old G9? A little faster? Also, how does the new 100-400 compare to the old version? (sharpness, quality, etc)
Startup is probably a fraction slower on the new camera. And I mean a fraction, there's not much in it. I don't have access to the new 100-400mm lens (I don't work for Panasonic) so I can't comment.
(8:00) Auto - Focus in low light situations is a struggle for literally every camera made regardless of manufacturer. The Lumix Leica 200mm/2.8 may have suited the early morning light better, and the M.Zuiko Pro 300mm/4 for greater reach.
OM SYSTEMS M.Zuiko also has the Pro 150-400mm/4.5, and with the eight stops of IBIS, the Lumix G9II should fair extremely well. The overall size benefit of the lens selections plus IS makes the µ4/3 system nearly ideal for almost any situation, especially wildlife…
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Can the G9ii be used as a USB-C webcam?
Unlimited video rec time, synchro scan?
Just realized that they removed the programmable front function lever that I use for exposure bracketing.
Andrew, forgot to say thanks for posting the overview of the camera. Did Panasonic indicate when it’s being released for sale?
@@kgoodman16:: 9/23/23.
They removed the lockable mode dial and top deck lcd panel too..ugh
Regarding the High Resolution mode I have managed to use it on the G9 handheld with great results, just a steady hand and if you have a lens with OIS much better. The only thing that caught my attention was the New sensor, everything else is nice but unnecessary, I will be skipping this upgrade for now or until a mark iii comes out.
Andrew, if you get the chance, can you take a couple of night, astro, low lightest shots to see if it performs better than the original g9? Thanks
Will see how I go. I have a job and my own business so very busy in my day-to-day life. And I have to return the camera to Panasonic before the end of the month.
Can you talk about the ports at some point?
Good day to you. I just bought the Zuiko ED 150-400mm f4.5 Pro and was considering getting the OM-1 to use. All of my other cameras are Lumix. I hope soon, you will do a video using the Zuiko lens with the G9 ii. Thank you, and have a great day.
I don't work for either company and I don't own that lens. So I won't be able to make such a review just now - perhaps in the future.
@@naturesimagephotography Sorry, my bad. I thought you did a review of it, but my memory isn't what it used to be. Have a great day.
Andrew can you answer that question please ? Are Far and Near shift focus still there ? I love these 2 options, G9 has such a fast SAF with them.
Yes you can apply near shift and far shift focus to the function buttons just like before.
Great, thank you for your answer. I alreay like this camera. It has almost all the features I was expecting in G9 mk II. I will definitely get one. @@naturesimagephotography
Good to see they improved the AF system from poor to half decent.
I don’t see that the new G9II does not have the creative control mode (artist palette). Something you probably did not use much, but something that a always liked to play with. Can you tell me if these features are buried somewhere else? I’ve enjoyed your videos over the years and they have been very informative. I’ve had the G9 for more that 5 years, and also have the GX9. I am anxious to see the new camera. I had started to consider the S5II, but don’t really want to deal with all new and larger lenses. Thanks.
I checked for you as I did know for sure. Yes the creative filter effect function is still there. It doesn't seem to appear by default. But I am able to turn on the Touch Tab in the Touch Settings part of the menu - then you can use it just like on the G9. But I also found that I can add it to the Quick Menu so that I can get to it without needing the touch tab. So it's there and there are a couple of options for how to access it.
@@naturesimagephotography Great, thank you very much for checking. I look forward to more of your videos on the G9 II.
@@naturesimagephotography Thanks a lot for checking. I like the option to use these filters, it doesn’t matter too much on how to access them. Since you found 2 options is great.
Do you or anyone know if these lenses can be used on this body?
LEICA 11081 SUMMICRON-TL 23MM F/2.0
ASPHLEICA 11080 VARIO-ELMAR-T 18-56MM F3.5-5.6
ASPHLEICA 11083 APO-VARIO-ELMAR-TL 55-135MM F/3.5-4.5 ASPH
A lot of reviews have highlighted that the buffer seems to fill up quite a bit faster. How has your experience been with this?
I haven't had that problem. But I don't do a lot of super-high-speed stuff, usually I stick to 20 FPS to avoid filling my cards up with thousands of unwanted shots.. I find I can keep shooting even while the camera is still saving the last round of burst shots to the card. But I imagine if you were doing a lot of bursts at 75 FPS there could be a problem there.
It's a nice camera but i wish the price was around 1600...1900 puts it to close to the om1
As far as the internals are concerned it appears that Panasonic have nailed it, I think that they've done as much as can be expected with technology as it stands, balancing cost.
I'd be interested to know if the card slots have individual data buses. Lumix were a bit sly with some release data for the original G9 (still my favourite camera none the less) while the G9 had two UHS2 card slots they shared a single data bus so it tends to choke quite quickly. It's noticeably slower in that regard compared to my OM1X (bought for its AF). Another point worth checking is the claimed AF speeds, again the original G9 had some good stats but the second edition of the user manual spawned several asterisks in AF section pointing out that at high speeds the AF system did a 'best guess calculation'.
I don't agree with your comment that 'if you like the old G9, you'll like the new one'. The loss of the top screen is a major misstep on an action / outdoor camera. If you're hiking, moving in and out of hides etc, being able to close the rear screen for protection and still see the essential shooting info on the LCD is a big advantage, secondly as a person of a certain age where spectacles play an increasingly large part in my life, the loss of the eye relief adjustment feature that was on the original G9 is quite simply a downgrade. I'll probably get one eventually, but the changes / downgrades I've mentioned will make it a 'some time in the future' purchase rather than a trade in and take my money now purchase.
No lcd on the top and different battery are the 2 main reasons I won’t be upgrading from my G9
Kind of strange they have. S&Q mode setting on the dial just like the sony cameras. Thought that was sonys thing .
Hmm wished I had have known this was coming out - tossed up b/t the S5m2 and the canon R6 m2 and took latter because of legacy lens and the G9m2 was only rumours, rumours and more rumours. Would have waited for this as I love M4/3 system - too late now................. will stick with my G9 and maybe in 2/3 years buy it second hand. Not happy!
Agree, if Panasonic really want to make money they should stop selling cameras and sell the drugs their marketing and product development team use!😄
I don't get it, the Panasonic G9 is bigger and heavier than crop-sensor cameras ... and above 800 ISO and Dynamic range... I don't need that, I am happy with the Nikon Z50 and Dynamicx range of 14.6, and ISO good enough 3200 ...
If you crop your z50 to match the G9II field of view, you left with around 8mp only crop from z50's 20mp. That massive difference compare to 25mp from G9II. For those people shooting wild life that need extra reach. Huge reason?
And just smaller and lighter lenses. When you take your camera everywhere it makes a huge difference. I put the trinity in my laptop bag and take them everywhere with me. My camera body is a bit smaller(EM-1MkII), but not that much smaller. It’s the lenses. Oh, and my trinity goes to 420mm. Stick a 400mm lens in your bag and take it everywhere. ;)
Let's spot the elephant in the room! Panasonic couldn't sell enough of S5 bodies and decided to re-use them in the M4/3 implementation. They just put the M4/3 sensor instead of the full frame and that's it! Nothing to compare with the original G9. It's just an S5 with smaller sensor. I had the G9 and have the S5 - the G9 body was way much comfortable than the S5 one. Disappointment.
The S1R can do timelapse with no time between images. The G9 cannot, can this?
Some of the features new in the G9 II have been in Olympus cameras for generations.
Does this have a bulb timer. In my Canon cameras, additional to setting exposure duration in the traditional way, when I switch to bulb I can then use a separate timer to ser the exposure duration in hours and minutes.
I use both Olympus and Lumix, G & S.
I'm unhappy with the new batteries, Canon has used the same battery form since the 5D II and 60D, only minor changes in chemistry in over a decade. The Canon LP-E6 is the same capacity as the batter for GH5 and G9 cameras, only a small difference in shape and a different pinout. They could have used exactly the same batteries for exactly the same performance and negligible difference in body shape.
The E-M1x and later Olympus cameras have live ND and hand-held 50 megapixels, the E-M1x is a little smaller than he Canon 1Dx III, has two batteries and GPS. And PD charging by USB-C. I've been using my big Lumix chargers. The OM 1 shoots faster, it might be a little better at AF.
$3300 for Body 😂 ( Australian $ )
$2640 if you are quick
Why would you purchase a M43 camera in 2023? It’s barely cheaper or smaller.
I have 4 high-end lenses for this format and a broken GH5 so I can imagine that’s a consideration… but new customers, why wouldn’t they simply go for a full frame solution?
I dont understand the price for a micro 4/3 camera.. thats insane.
Since when is a M43 body the same size as a full frame body... 😂
Wow...I see someone hasn't actually looked at camera bodies in a while.
Not G9 Mark ii, its Mark II
If you want a camera for taking pictures, you can get a sony A72 full frame and a lens for 999 bucks.. Plus better lenses.. I dont understand paying this much for such a crap sensor
I believe the reason why it cost so much at the moment. It is because it is packed with a lot of video and photo features than any full frame cameras. It's not useless by any means. Each camera is built differently for the user needs. And clearly, it does not fit your needs. But it may fit other people's needs which is perfectly fine.
Furthermore, Full Frame cameras will not make you a better photographer or videographer if you don't know how to utilize its features or even how to composite your shots to begin with. I feel having many camera options is Welcoming.
@@alexandermedina9886 I dont really see many professional photographers using crop sensors or even mft personally. Not saying you cant use them, but the reason even a cheap full frame sensor would be desirable is because of the obvious lowlight benefits, the larger sensor means you actually get to capitalize on the full size of the aperture on your lenses. Im sure someone will buy this camera, but it just seems like an odd camera to pack a bunch of features into when other full frames exist for not much more with essentially all the same features.
An A72 could only dream of achieving these sort of burst rates. Plus as its an older camera now technology inevitably progresses so many of the FF advantages get eroded away
@@JoeMaranophotography Yeah, for shooting birds I suppose.. Id still take the a72 for pretty much everything else. The sensor on the a72 is still relevant today.
@@CryoftheProphet For me using the G9 all I ever really needed was better autofocus but wildlife is still pretty niche.
why the heck cant you upload in 4k, its absurd for crying out loud, your a photographer. Its the reason i dont follow anymore.
.....wow.....
1900 s ??? 😅😅😅😅😅😅